In an interview Sirtis described the whole ordeal with „they had me in make up for four hours because it took that long to apply the rubber suit and then had me sitting in the bathtub for three hours, while the water filled the cracks in the rubber and made the glued parts stick off of me. It was impossible to hold it together. Then they had me dry up and go through the whole thing again, only this time they used cold water instead of heated, so that the glue would hold longer. The water began filling all the cracks again, but this time it became really hard to pull myself up, as my head was submerged in the tub and my neck and chest were being pulled down by the water under the rubber. We shot that scene five bloody times. By the end of the day I was hypothermic and had an inflamed bladder. The next three days I had to go constantly to the toilet. I called my agent and told him that I want a pay raise for the film we were to shoot three months later. And for the first time they agreed without any hesitation. I felt appreciated for my work.“
When I watched this as a kid, I was sure it was Beverly in this scene. Now decades later, I'm rewatching it... and still can't see any familiarity to Deanna. It looks like a young Beverly...
@@LivingGospel I don’t see it as complaining. But can you blame her? They wedged her into a suit in the first season, sexualized her up until the 6th, and sexually assaulted her character multiple times over the series. Yes it an amazing role, but it’s still a job you can get frustrated over
@@LaKyMarEntertainment Sirtis was quite free to fvck off back to the one-off 'guest star' bits she was doing before this show. I'd have held the door open for her. Frankly, I'd have much preferred Denise Crosby to stay every day and twice on Sundays over this tedious whining sweater-meat. At least Tasha Yar was a badass with an interesting, if ultimately wasted, backstory I would've liked to hear more about (imagine what she would've been like returning in 'Picard'). Deanna Troi was useless and boring, her only contribution for seven years being to point her rack at the camera and occasionally have a psychic flash of exposition the writers were too fvcking lazy to find a reason for. One of the rare times they find something for her to actually _do_ ... and she bitches and moans about doing a single day's work. Fvck this she-clown.
it made me wonder why they only cared that Dianna was no longer human, did they temporarily forget she was a human-betazed hybrid and not technically human anyway?
@@ravinraven6913 the script isn’t supposed to make sense. No one can de-evolve into a spider or another species. They should have made it clear these were mutations.
For this episode we are all going to become animals. Marina, what do you want to be? Frog? Ok. Dwight, spider? Doesn't really make sense, but ok. Patrick? Pygmy-marmoset?? Yeah, ok, you're the star. Michael, you'll be some sort of Klingon beast. Extra hour in the makeup chair for you.
The part where Michael is "turning" and eating everything in Ten Forward is played so brilliantly. Marina plays is a bit more subtle, watch her in the scene, too. I think it such neat stuff from both of them :)
The animal sound effects alone make this episode memorable! Picard and Data hear them when they're on the Enterprise, and it makes you wonder what variety of de-evolved MONSTERS are now prowling the ship!
@@teleportedbreadfor3days It has nothing to do with taking initiative. It has everything to do with creating an opportunity for an enemy of the Federation to capture a high priority target with knowledge of classified Starfleet information. A captain's place is on the bridge. At any rate, searching for a stray torpedo is the exact type of boring grunt work low-level Starfleet personnel are there for. There's nothing particularly interesting about the mission, which is why it's completely mystifying as to why Picard would even want to go out in the first place. But its so commonplace for the Captain to beam away from the ship in away missions (which a high ranking officer in any intelligently run hierarchy would never do) that people just dismiss it out of turn. Just typically pedantic Star Trek writing at work.
Always love when some very complex problem comes us and the first thing they do is go to "Manual". Of course with a fly by wire system, Picard gets to push the buttons and the computer is still there making sure he does not kill everyone.
it is funny, both ways are still done via computer, as opposed to a Control stick in a plane that directly MANUALLY affects the attitude rotation ect ect of the body directly
Cool how they had the Enterprise on its side and at an angle when Data and Picard first see it. Obviously in space there's no up or down, but as the Enterprise is usually portrayed parallel to the bottom of the screen, having them approach with the ship at that angle hints that something's amiss.
While there is no up or down in space you do usually arrange on a commonly accepted up when meeting somewhere. So if a ship isn't oriented the way you expect it to be then that's a sign something's different.
I wonder how many crewmen were eaten by transformed fellow crewmen. Some of them had to have killed and eaten each other, Armadillo Worf sure seemed like he was hunting.
@@bjornjoseph The idea was the Enterprise-D was a long range exploration ship that would be away from port for years. Having families aboard kept the crew sane. It turned out to be a far more dangerous mission than they expected.
I'm not a big fan of this episode, but I do really like the horror vibes they effectively fuse into the show during this part and other parts of the episode. That's probably the biggest redeeming factor of this episode in particular.
Star Trek ages like fine wine - i didn’t like it that much when I first saw it but over the years I appreciate episodes like this that kind of bring forth a truly original idea
@@mr.adventure0142 Perhaps but if you put yourself in their shoes it would be scary with a carnivorous dinosaur Worf and Barclay spider also the moment you step on the ship you are also infected as we see Picard changing in the episode.
what? Its like you're trying to say something, I just know it! Thats english words, and I think thats a sentence but those words don't make sense when you put them together like that you love that shut down space ship? and you love being able to hack some vital parameters back to life before going there...thats what you just said, can you make sense of it for me
@@ravinraven6913 What you are seeing is another A.I. bot attempting to pass as human. They often string words together or even sentences that *appear* like they are trying to say something, but it's A.I. nonsense. It's getting bad over the past year. The really good ones only expose themselves after several posts.
In the mid-20th century, when characters in a movie took a train from New York to Los Angeles, the depiction of that journey never occupied, say, 70 hours of screen time. Condensing the putative "real-time" duration of a narrative's action is the most basic of dramatic conventions; it is obviously not worth even mentioning how this episode applied it.
@@brandywell44 - The more pertinent question would be, were you and "Polespy" serious in carping about the narrative ellipsis employed in this segment? There are a number of points in this episode where one could raise legitimate questions about the story logic, but the condensing of elapsed time in that cut isn't one of them. I considered whether the comments were intended as witty irony, but there was no clever play being made on anything in the clip, so it seems those comments have to be taken at face value.
2:08 Oh, the number of times I watched this episode and how I JUST noticed Data used a contraction and said "There's no response from any manned station" instead of "There IS no response from any manned station." LOL
He is shaking his head as he says it, which causes the sound to distort very slightly, but he does say "there is" just without any pause between "there" and "is"
This episode was my favorite as a small kid. Easy enough for me to understand the plot. The crew was transformed, simple. No diplomatic intricacies, adult personal relationship, or techno-babble. Yet it's the most flawed from a scientific and bottom line sense. If the crew de-evolved into creatures with lower intelligence, it is as good as being dead because their brains also transformed into designs way too primitive to continue holding the acquired knowledge and learning of more advanced humanoids. Even if the process was reversed, their bodies and brain can be restored, but I don't see how the stored knowledge could be intact. Finally, given the state of the ship when Picard and Date arrived (basically a jungle), you would assume that many crewmembers perished, because they were hunted and eaten by crewmembers that became apex predators.
I enjoyed the Shuttlebay doors opening by magic. Since you have to have ship to ship or ship to person connection. The ship wasn't supposed to be working so communication was not an option...and here we have 2 perfectly fine systems
The most vital and reliable systems on the ship, more vital than even life support systems, are artificial gravity and the exploding consoles full of rocks.
At the end of this episode, when Data saves the day, Beverly Crusher reappears and looks perfectly well. Even though earlier in the episode, Worf sprayed out acid into her face, which apparently we were told she needed reconstructed surgery. How the hell did she become fine?
Well in the 24th century they do have medical equipment so advanced cuts cab be cured in a matter of seconds (see the beginning of "Timescape" for an example of this) so it should come as no surprise (at least it didn't to me) that Beverly was completely healed of her facial injuries (and note also Troi no longer has the bite mark on her face that Worf gave her) after the virus was reversed.
Wait, the captain and a senior member of the bridge left the ship to in a shuttle to find a lost torpedo? In what insane navy would that happen? And those are their flashlights?
@@Romulan2469 It wasn't her fault. The whole episode was dumb and flawed and never should have been made. But it's not the worst of the show (try Emergence or Crusher's family's fuck ghost)
Imagine, all the people on board on that damned ship would transforming to animals! Some of them are harmles others are very dangerous predators. All the many screams of death behind the coridors, in the quartiers, just everywhere and maybe you find some half lifing bodys or some others are dead. You walk alone in the darkness and suddenly a unknow dark shadow approaches first slow than quickly and you hide somewhere in an corner, half lit. Then stare into the eyes of such a mutated crew member. You have no idea whats going, to think you are the next short bevore you are going to die! What a terrifying and scary imagine...it reminds me a little bit on the horror scenarios on "Splatterhouse" of 1988's game.
Reminds me of a darker scenario in Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday. That game's 2nd level didn't hold back in the grim deaths of a drifting ship's crew, with a virus that slowly warps your investigation team to the point of each one turning on you in insanity and eventually if not cured in time, keels over dead. The beasts, however, are apart and hostile with automated killbots, broken loose and killing all they see while growing in intelligence.
the black screen? Nothing shows up till second 2 and not even discernible till second 3. wait the shuttle craft was found near the destroyed space ship? im confused. what hipster reference am I missing
I remember early episodes of TNG showing families, children, schools, etc. But in other episodes, the Enterprise is going into war zones, the whole ship being rocked and shaken by being shot at, and things like this episode where everyone apparently turned into an animal. That often raised the question for me, who would want to raise a family in that kind of environment? What child wouldn't be traumatized and scarred for life by the ship they live on being shot at, attacked by Borg and who knows who else, etc.
That was the reason for the saucer separation, but they found it expensive to do. So they only used it for specific situations. Also, this was supposed to be a 20 year trip. That's a really long time to be away from family.
Look at how many people are happy raising their children in America where not only is being shot at common place, the children constantly witness their classmates being shot at and killed in their schools. So I guess TNG is just an extension of American gun culture where that kind of thing is considered normal and healthy.
0:32 Enterprise was two lightyears away. How long did it take for the shuttle to reach it? Even at warp 6 (~200-400 times speed of light), it would have taken one full day. What is the speed that these shuttles can travel at?
More odd is why two high-level command officers would be sent out to retrieve a torpedo? That's a Lower Decks ensign assignment :) Esp. if you have to spent 3 days in a tiny shuttle that doesn't seem to have shower facilities....good thing Data can turn off his olfactory sensors lol
I'm sure it's been said already but I have to say it... Not "at Drift" The Enterprise is "adrift" (adverb) so as to float without being either moored or steered. "a cargo ship went adrift" (adjective) floating without being either moored or steered. "the seamen are adrift in lifeboats" Similar: drifting unmoored unanchored
Picard: “It’s a perfect excuse to take out the Captain’s Yacht for a little jaunt, Mr Data.” Data: “Unfortunately, Captain, that will not happen until you take command of the Enterprise E.” Picard: “Wha… what happens to the Enterprise D?” Data: “I fear I have said too much already, sir.”
The sillyness of "Evolving" aside, i love this episodes vibes. The lighting, the scenary, the ideas.... If someone had one over the script one more time and had exchanged "Evolution" for an alien virus or some strange radiation it would've been perfect.
As a Navy veteran, I can tell you that the captain and second officer would not be the ones out looking for a stray torpedo. That would be handled by a Chief and a couple of seamen...
Sooo Picard was on a super small shuttle without bathroom and bed for 3 days? That sounds quite fun! Also where is the recovered torpedo? The shuttle is so small we should be able to see it when they open the door.
huh? I am looking up thinking it went over my head but I think it was so low it just went between my legs? Classic Elite? The shuttle doesn't dock with the ship in a way that spinning makes it more dangerous, this isn't a nasa/space X shuttle that needs to match the rotation so a door can match up to another door. It opens a huge door that anyone could fly through without hitting the edges. And what did Picard do anyway? he used the computer after saying hes taking it manual....he pushed buttons, nothing is really different. He didn't take a control stick and move it up and down to directly move the ship. he hit a button and a moment later it did what he told it to do.
One of my favourite episode of Star Trek TNG but the one thing you don't see in the episode is the children or what happened to them! Which would have also needed explanation.
The Enterprise was 2 lyr away, so at the speed of would take them 2 Lyr ! So the shuttle would need to be traveling at least at warp 6, to get there in the time frame the video shows ! Let me remind you this was a shuttle craft, NOT a Galaxy class space craft with a huge warp drive engine powered by a large number of engineers ! quite impossible even by 3045AD standards ! DML.
Picard: “Mr Data, do you think you’ll be sufficiently capable in helping me locate, secure and return this wayward torpedo, whatever its condition and wherever it’s location may be?” Data: “I am fully functional in multiple techniques, captain.” Picard: “Wait, what now?”
The torpedo is such an odd choice for a plot device. They literally needed any reason for them to be off ship, and came up with that. More logical thing would have been if say Picard was returning from another ship, or some urgent federation business.
So, if the Enterprise is spiraling haphazardly, why aren't the crew members also being thrown about in a similar manner? Is it the whole "Inertial dampeners" thing? If so, if main power was offline, wouldn't the inertial dampeners also have been deactivated?
Emergency power was online, and you'd think they would auto-place some of that power to the inertial dampeners as a priority, for reason of the crew becoming a bloody smear on a wall if they didn't and it moved to much.
It takes the shuttle 7 seconds to reach the enterprise 2 lightyears away, meaning it travelled at 9016457.14x the speed of light That is the fastest federation ship in the fleet
@@ProjectT Fair enough. I just didn't think something so small could have warp capability, that's all. Even so at warp 1 it would still take 2 years for the trip. What warp speed are they actually capable of?
@@JamesCarmichael One quick check to the wiki later, apparently warp 3. A fair bit higher than the speed of light on the TNG-era warp scale, but you'd have to check a chart or something for the specifics. It probably still took them a few extra days.
They could likely hit a higher warp speed than the cruise speed specifications at the cost of severe engine damage and depletion of all energy. Considering they would be hooking up to mother ship, this would be acceptable and the captain making the call would make it even more authoritative to do so.
What did riker do 😂 yes, riker as commander kicked some serious ass, the riker maneuver in insurrection, and stopped the borg we he was captain in best of both worlds… but there was also that time enterprise crashed and got destroyed in generations. Then again picard was kicking it with kirk though. Idk. Im glad riker dtsyed as commander and turned down captain plenty of times, and how picard turned down admiral, and im sure data, geordi, troi etc turned down promotions just to all stay on the best ship… but when youre serving on enterprise, you could be in a time loop that ends in destruction one week, and be an amphibian the next. Also… dont ask picard how many lights are in a room.
Maybe an asymmetric thruster on the port or starboard side boosted the ship during the last moments of the degenerating crew and inertia caused it to continually spin
uhh you don't know much about space do you..there is 3 dimensions in space? whats up and down is all relative. you can flip a ship upside down and as long as it has gravity, it doesn't appear to be upside down, that doesn't mean you're not And....the smallest thing can have big change in space. If a single window burst, the air pressure can be enough to give it a list which after hours or days can cause it to be how it wound up. In one episode they use the decompression of the shuttle bay to move the whole ship in a split second to save it from Fraisers ship hitting them in that causality loop episode. Specially if they had an uncontrolled drop out of warp where they can tumble...that bit is all science fiction so no one can say.
In hindsight, the fact that none of the crew evidently ate each other is utterly remarkable.
Well, you do not know that exactly ...
@Opterongeek I think you replied to the wrong comment, because that made no sense in this context.
@@xkm-thebasetecchannel3823 True, there are 1000 people on board. Odds are someone was...missing to say the least
Maybe not eaten but that dude at the helm got janked
Worf killed an ensign on the bridge I think@@K-11609
In an interview Sirtis described the whole ordeal with „they had me in make up for four hours because it took that long to apply the rubber suit and then had me sitting in the bathtub for three hours, while the water filled the cracks in the rubber and made the glued parts stick off of me. It was impossible to hold it together. Then they had me dry up and go through the whole thing again, only this time they used cold water instead of heated, so that the glue would hold longer. The water began filling all the cracks again, but this time it became really hard to pull myself up, as my head was submerged in the tub and my neck and chest were being pulled down by the water under the rubber. We shot that scene five bloody times. By the end of the day I was hypothermic and had an inflamed bladder. The next three days I had to go constantly to the toilet. I called my agent and told him that I want a pay raise for the film we were to shoot three months later. And for the first time they agreed without any hesitation. I felt appreciated for my work.“
When I watched this as a kid, I was sure it was Beverly in this scene. Now decades later, I'm rewatching it... and still can't see any familiarity to Deanna. It looks like a young Beverly...
She complains in almost every interview.
@@LivingGospel I don’t see it as complaining. But can you blame her? They wedged her into a suit in the first season, sexualized her up until the 6th, and sexually assaulted her character multiple times over the series. Yes it an amazing role, but it’s still a job you can get frustrated over
@@LaKyMarEntertainment Sirtis was quite free to fvck off back to the one-off 'guest star' bits she was doing before this show. I'd have held the door open for her. Frankly, I'd have much preferred Denise Crosby to stay every day and twice on Sundays over this tedious whining sweater-meat. At least Tasha Yar was a badass with an interesting, if ultimately wasted, backstory I would've liked to hear more about (imagine what she would've been like returning in 'Picard'). Deanna Troi was useless and boring, her only contribution for seven years being to point her rack at the camera and occasionally have a psychic flash of exposition the writers were too fvcking lazy to find a reason for. One of the rare times they find something for her to actually _do_ ... and she bitches and moans about doing a single day's work. Fvck this she-clown.
@@LivingGospel Pretty much every time she gives memories of working on the show she complains about something. 😂
I loved this episode, it was so random but it's one of my all time favorites.
mine aswell, same with the episode with the romulan ship and the time pockets, very similar vibe aswell
it made me wonder why they only cared that Dianna was no longer human, did they temporarily forget she was a human-betazed hybrid and not technically human anyway?
@@soundeurope I LOVE that one. Michelle Forbes and LeVar Burton are so awesome in it. I really wish they had done more with their characters together.
@@ravinraven6913 the script isn’t supposed to make sense. No one can de-evolve into a spider or another species. They should have made it clear these were mutations.
@@DEP717 they were talking about Timescape and not The Next Phase. But that was a good episode as well.
For this episode we are all going to become animals. Marina, what do you want to be? Frog? Ok. Dwight, spider? Doesn't really make sense, but ok. Patrick? Pygmy-marmoset?? Yeah, ok, you're the star. Michael, you'll be some sort of Klingon beast. Extra hour in the makeup chair for you.
Some really made sense though. Or atleast could make sense in the Star Trek Universe.
The part where Michael is "turning" and eating everything in Ten Forward is played so brilliantly. Marina plays is a bit more subtle, watch her in the scene, too. I think it such neat stuff from both of them :)
The animal sound effects alone make this episode memorable! Picard and Data hear them when they're on the Enterprise, and it makes you wonder what variety of de-evolved MONSTERS are now prowling the ship!
Searching for a stray torpedo represents a pretty stupid excuse for the captain of the Federation flagship to leave the bridge.
Picard wanted to go for a spin and that was as good a reason as any
Yes 😅 brilliant show but man, they’d stumble on the simplest things and carried it over to DS9 and Voyager (where we couldn’t even count torpedoes)
A quick and simple task. I don’t see why a captain shouldn’t take the initiative on occasion
@@teleportedbreadfor3days It has nothing to do with taking initiative. It has everything to do with creating an opportunity for an enemy of the Federation to capture a high priority target with knowledge of classified Starfleet information. A captain's place is on the bridge.
At any rate, searching for a stray torpedo is the exact type of boring grunt work low-level Starfleet personnel are there for. There's nothing particularly interesting about the mission, which is why it's completely mystifying as to why Picard would even want to go out in the first place.
But its so commonplace for the Captain to beam away from the ship in away missions (which a high ranking officer in any intelligently run hierarchy would never do) that people just dismiss it out of turn.
Just typically pedantic Star Trek writing at work.
@@wrestlingconnoisseur Or maybe you’ve got a very wrong interpretation and you’re looking too hard at all the wrong details.
Always love when some very complex problem comes us and the first thing they do is go to "Manual". Of course with a fly by wire system, Picard gets to push the buttons and the computer is still there making sure he does not kill everyone.
Notice how they have to contrive a reason to get Data off the ship for a while otherwise the story would never have worked.
it is funny, both ways are still done via computer, as opposed to a Control stick in a plane that directly MANUALLY affects the attitude rotation ect ect of the body directly
They came up with some really cool scenarios on this show
Cool how they had the Enterprise on its side and at an angle when Data and Picard first see it. Obviously in space there's no up or down, but as the Enterprise is usually portrayed parallel to the bottom of the screen, having them approach with the ship at that angle hints that something's amiss.
While there is no up or down in space you do usually arrange on a commonly accepted up when meeting somewhere. So if a ship isn't oriented the way you expect it to be then that's a sign something's different.
@@ViciousVinnyD Is that what they did the last time your space ship met another space ship? ; )
@@halleck3 Yep, obviously I don't own a real spaceship but when playing space games it sure helps to establish a common up direction.
There is up and down in Space. So many times in this series you see ships moving upwards
When a ship is descending to a planet, is that not going downwards?
I wonder how many crewmen were eaten by transformed fellow crewmen. Some of them had to have killed and eaten each other, Armadillo Worf sure seemed like he was hunting.
My thoughts exactly
Yea let's include kids on starships
@@bjornjoseph The idea was the Enterprise-D was a long range exploration ship that would be away from port for years. Having families aboard kept the crew sane. It turned out to be a far more dangerous mission than they expected.
What happens in Vegas...
The scene after when they go to the Bridge at least one crewman has been killed.
I'm not a big fan of this episode, but I do really like the horror vibes they effectively fuse into the show during this part and other parts of the episode. That's probably the biggest redeeming factor of this episode in particular.
Star Trek ages like fine wine - i didn’t like it that much when I first saw it but over the years I appreciate episodes like this that kind of bring forth a truly original idea
Gates told us at cons how much she loved doing it both behind and in front of the camera
This was a good thrilling episode that added some Horror putting you on the edge of your seat.
Rated PG-13 . . . Maybe to intense to younger children!
@@mr.adventure0142 Perhaps but if you put yourself in their shoes it would be scary with a carnivorous dinosaur Worf and Barclay spider also the moment you step on the ship you are also infected as we see Picard changing in the episode.
Clearly this episode was too scary for television where I live. Looking back at these UA-cam clips, I can see just how many ST: TNG episodes I missed.
* Picard returns, Data returns, but Picard AND Data RETURN.
* Adrift.
I love that completely shut down spaceship and being able to "hack" some vital parameters back to life before going there.
what? Its like you're trying to say something, I just know it! Thats english words, and I think thats a sentence but those words don't make sense when you put them together like that
you love that shut down space ship?
and you love being able to hack some vital parameters back to life before going there...thats what you just said, can you make sense of it for me
@@ravinraven6913 Clean up your language. You’re probably a woke Leftist who is a bigoted language snob.
@@ravinraven6913 What you are seeing is another A.I. bot attempting to pass as human. They often string words together or even sentences that *appear* like they are trying to say something, but it's A.I. nonsense. It's getting bad over the past year. The really good ones only expose themselves after several posts.
I like how the space shuttle travels 2 light years in a few seconds
Yes, I noticed that too.
In the mid-20th century, when characters in a movie took a train from New York to Los Angeles, the depiction of that journey never occupied, say, 70 hours of screen time. Condensing the putative "real-time" duration of a narrative's action is the most basic of dramatic conventions; it is obviously not worth even mentioning how this episode applied it.
@@ColumbiaB Are you being serious?
@@brandywell44 - The more pertinent question would be, were you and "Polespy" serious in carping about the narrative ellipsis employed in this segment? There are a number of points in this episode where one could raise legitimate questions about the story logic, but the condensing of elapsed time in that cut isn't one of them. I considered whether the comments were intended as witty irony, but there was no clever play being made on anything in the clip, so it seems those comments have to be taken at face value.
I have that more than adequately covered. What is more urgently needed here, by others, is the capacity to engage in a cogent argument.
2:08 Oh, the number of times I watched this episode and how I JUST noticed Data used a contraction and said "There's no response from any manned station" instead of "There IS no response from any manned station." LOL
I thought he did say "there is", just Brent Spiner's delivery was very quick, that the there and is were said quickly.
He is shaking his head as he says it, which causes the sound to distort very slightly, but he does say "there is" just without any pause between "there" and "is"
One of my favorites
This episode was my favorite as a small kid. Easy enough for me to understand the plot. The crew was transformed, simple. No diplomatic intricacies, adult personal relationship, or techno-babble. Yet it's the most flawed from a scientific and bottom line sense. If the crew de-evolved into creatures with lower intelligence, it is as good as being dead because their brains also transformed into designs way too primitive to continue holding the acquired knowledge and learning of more advanced humanoids. Even if the process was reversed, their bodies and brain can be restored, but I don't see how the stored knowledge could be intact. Finally, given the state of the ship when Picard and Date arrived (basically a jungle), you would assume that many crewmembers perished, because they were hunted and eaten by crewmembers that became apex predators.
Love how gravity systems full operational
I enjoyed the Shuttlebay doors opening by magic. Since you have to have ship to ship or ship to person connection. The ship wasn't supposed to be working so communication was not an option...and here we have 2 perfectly fine systems
@@ravinraven6913 For time constraint reasons they didn't shoot the part where they phase right through the shuttle bay hanger door.
The most vital and reliable systems on the ship, more vital than even life support systems, are artificial gravity and the exploding consoles full of rocks.
Deanna got turned into a newt!
...A newt?!
She got better.
deannas no longer human.. correction data deanna was never human
i loved this episode.. it was so creepy
Me too.
Awesome great TV Show. Star Trek
This was one of my favorite episodes. Worf was coming for dat arse! lol
At the end of this episode, when Data saves the day, Beverly Crusher reappears and looks perfectly well. Even though earlier in the episode, Worf sprayed out acid into her face, which apparently we were told she needed reconstructed surgery. How the hell did she become fine?
Holographic nose and mouthparts.
Well in the 24th century they do have medical equipment so advanced cuts cab be cured in a matter of seconds (see the beginning of "Timescape" for an example of this) so it should come as no surprise (at least it didn't to me) that Beverly was completely healed of her facial injuries (and note also Troi no longer has the bite mark on her face that Worf gave her) after the virus was reversed.
Well the end could be weeks after the recovery.
Movie magic.
It's the future, where they have highly-advanced medicine. Try not to overthink it.
Wait, the captain and a senior member of the bridge left the ship to in a shuttle to find a lost torpedo? In what insane navy would that happen? And those are their flashlights?
Picard is so emotionless it's comical 🤣🤣 what would touch him sugar in his earl grey tea ?
Gates McFadden did a kickass job directing this episode, wish she had done more.
She turned it into a cheap horror show. This was one of the worst episodes of the series.
@@Romulan2469 It wasn't her fault. The whole episode was dumb and flawed and never should have been made. But it's not the worst of the show (try Emergence or Crusher's family's fuck ghost)
". . . to the Enterprise, adrift."
Imagine, all the people on board on that damned ship would transforming to animals! Some of them are harmles others are very dangerous predators. All the many screams of death behind the coridors, in the quartiers, just everywhere and maybe you find some half lifing bodys or some others are dead. You walk alone in the darkness and suddenly a unknow dark shadow approaches first slow than quickly and you hide somewhere in an corner, half lit. Then stare into the eyes of such a mutated crew member. You have no idea whats going, to think you are the next short bevore you are going to die!
What a terrifying and scary imagine...it reminds me a little bit on the horror scenarios on "Splatterhouse" of 1988's game.
Reminds me of a darker scenario in Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday. That game's 2nd level didn't hold back in the grim deaths of a drifting ship's crew, with a virus that slowly warps your investigation team to the point of each one turning on you in insanity and eventually if not cured in time, keels over dead.
The beasts, however, are apart and hostile with automated killbots, broken loose and killing all they see while growing in intelligence.
Two Lightyears away and they`re flying with impulse? Would take years to get there.
0:01 We found it near an destroyed Spaceship of an Pre-Warp Civilisation, let's hope they don't miss there crew.
the black screen? Nothing shows up till second 2 and not even discernible till second 3.
wait the shuttle craft was found near the destroyed space ship? im confused. what hipster reference am I missing
@@ravinraven6913 i made a joke of the situation that they find there dangerous weapon after three days.
I remember early episodes of TNG showing families, children, schools, etc. But in other episodes, the Enterprise is going into war zones, the whole ship being rocked and shaken by being shot at, and things like this episode where everyone apparently turned into an animal. That often raised the question for me, who would want to raise a family in that kind of environment? What child wouldn't be traumatized and scarred for life by the ship they live on being shot at, attacked by Borg and who knows who else, etc.
That was the reason for the saucer separation, but they found it expensive to do. So they only used it for specific situations.
Also, this was supposed to be a 20 year trip. That's a really long time to be away from family.
Look at how many people are happy raising their children in America where not only is being shot at common place, the children constantly witness their classmates being shot at and killed in their schools. So I guess TNG is just an extension of American gun culture where that kind of thing is considered normal and healthy.
0:32 Enterprise was two lightyears away. How long did it take for the shuttle to reach it? Even at warp 6 (~200-400 times speed of light), it would have taken one full day.
What is the speed that these shuttles can travel at?
More odd is why two high-level command officers would be sent out to retrieve a torpedo? That's a Lower Decks ensign assignment :) Esp. if you have to spent 3 days in a tiny shuttle that doesn't seem to have shower facilities....good thing Data can turn off his olfactory sensors lol
Bloody good question.
Bloody good question.
@@rkbkirin5975 the captain really wanted something else to do instead of having to monitor these tests.
I'd forgotten about this episode. Captain Janeway turning into a salamander doesn't seem quite as awful now...
Good to see Smiley ☺ faced survived to the 24th century. And beyond
i always liked to imagine the lights theyre holding was much smaller and way more powerful
power fluctuations means voltage in the wires and components
I'm sure it's been said already but I have to say it...
Not "at Drift"
The Enterprise is "adrift"
(adverb)
so as to float without being either moored or steered.
"a cargo ship went adrift"
(adjective)
floating without being either moored or steered.
"the seamen are adrift in lifeboats"
Similar:
drifting
unmoored
unanchored
Picard: “It’s a perfect excuse to take out the Captain’s Yacht for a little jaunt, Mr Data.”
Data: “Unfortunately, Captain, that will not happen until you take command of the Enterprise E.”
Picard: “Wha… what happens to the Enterprise D?”
Data: “I fear I have said too much already, sir.”
The sillyness of "Evolving" aside, i love this episodes vibes. The lighting, the scenary, the ideas.... If someone had one over the script one more time and had exchanged "Evolution" for an alien virus or some strange radiation it would've been perfect.
Reminds me of the docking scene in interstellar
As a Navy veteran, I can tell you that the captain and second officer would not be the ones out looking for a stray torpedo. That would be handled by a Chief and a couple of seamen...
no navy in human history has ever had a spaceship with a stray torpedo... Your experience at playing soldier isn't relevant to sci-fy :D
They didn't even get the stray torpedo, it was in the cargo hold of the shuttle on the return.
Sooo Picard was on a super small shuttle without bathroom and bed for 3 days? That sounds quite fun! Also where is the recovered torpedo? The shuttle is so small we should be able to see it when they open the door.
How do Captain Picard and Data get into the shuttle bay with the shuttle? That is what I want to know.
What episode was this?
Genesis
"Adrift"
2 Lightyears?!?! How fast are those little shuttles?
As close to Aliens as Star Trek ever got!!!! Maybe Voyager's Macrocosm episode was closer, though!!
This horror episode is brought to you by....Beverly Crusher.
Oh, yeah. She directed this.
It's "Return To An Enterprise Adrift" not "Returns To an Enterprise at Drift"
Good think Classic Elite is a required course at Starfleet Acad, never trust the computer to dock with a spinning ship.
huh? I am looking up thinking it went over my head but I think it was so low it just went between my legs? Classic Elite? The shuttle doesn't dock with the ship in a way that spinning makes it more dangerous, this isn't a nasa/space X shuttle that needs to match the rotation so a door can match up to another door. It opens a huge door that anyone could fly through without hitting the edges.
And what did Picard do anyway? he used the computer after saying hes taking it manual....he pushed buttons, nothing is really different. He didn't take a control stick and move it up and down to directly move the ship. he hit a button and a moment later it did what he told it to do.
I always thought she looked more like Beverly in that scene. Couldn't see any Deanna in her face
It's doing the Tokyo drift in space, hence "at drift."
What episode is this? Must have been one I've forgotten about.
Genesis
I just realized, Data should have been equipped with built in lights, he had everything else though.
You mean a flashlight? Do you even TNG, bro?
They had to land really close to these water barrels
And... I suddenly find myself no longer in love with Troy 💔
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One of my favourite episode of Star Trek TNG but the one thing you don't see in the episode is the children or what happened to them! Which would have also needed explanation.
Picard picked up the largest sunburn peel ever!
mmhhh human jerky
lmfao I don't remember making that reply
The Enterprise was 2 lyr away, so at the speed of would take them 2 Lyr !
So the shuttle would need to be traveling at least at warp 6, to get there in the time frame the video shows !
Let me remind you
this was a shuttle craft, NOT a Galaxy class space craft with a huge warp drive engine powered by a large number
of engineers !
quite impossible even by 3045AD standards !
DML.
Two light years away? That’s farther than the circumstance of our solar system, I think.
What is the name of this episode?
I think you mean Adrift.
Great, I am away for three days, and look at the mess you lot have got yourselves into. Thats it, your all grounded.
4.08 flat 🔦
4:02 I see a strange, possibly alien substance on a door. I’m sure it’s totally safe to touch.
Oh I assumed it was moisture.
Name of the episode please?
Picard: “Mr Data, do you think you’ll be sufficiently capable in helping me locate, secure and return this wayward torpedo, whatever its condition and wherever it’s location may be?”
Data: “I am fully functional in multiple techniques, captain.”
Picard: “Wait, what now?”
2 light years away in a shuttle that can go warp 5 max means they're gonna spend 3 days in that shuttle at maximum warp just going to the enterprise.
Enterprise adrift. There- I fixed it for ya.
The torpedo is such an odd choice for a plot device. They literally needed any reason for them to be off ship, and came up with that. More logical thing would have been if say Picard was returning from another ship, or some urgent federation business.
First port of call? Counselor Troi's knicker draw!
So, if the Enterprise is spiraling haphazardly, why aren't the crew members also being thrown about in a similar manner?
Is it the whole "Inertial dampeners" thing?
If so, if main power was offline, wouldn't the inertial dampeners also have been deactivated?
Emergency power was online, and you'd think they would auto-place some of that power to the inertial dampeners as a priority, for reason of the crew becoming a bloody smear on a wall if they didn't and it moved to much.
Star Trek TNG S07E19 Genesis wasn't that easy to post the eps MR INNOVATIVE LIFEFORM : ) eheh
So what episode is this from?
Genesis
So that little shuttle travelled 2 light years in a matter of minutes.
It takes the shuttle 7 seconds to reach the enterprise 2 lightyears away, meaning it travelled at 9016457.14x the speed of light
That is the fastest federation ship in the fleet
Spider Barkley probably murdered a shit ton of crew too
Data. Did you get these flash lights from dollar general?
How to make an episode of Star Trek into a horror/thriller.
Wait what, Troi is no longer human? She never was 100% human.
Hang on! Two LightYEARS away? I don't think those crafts have warp capability so it would take them at least 2 years to reach the ship.
If the shuttle didn't have warp, it wouldn't have warp nacelles.
@@ProjectT Fair enough. I just didn't think something so small could have warp capability, that's all. Even so at warp 1 it would still take 2 years for the trip. What warp speed are they actually capable of?
@@JamesCarmichael One quick check to the wiki later, apparently warp 3. A fair bit higher than the speed of light on the TNG-era warp scale, but you'd have to check a chart or something for the specifics.
It probably still took them a few extra days.
@@JamesCarmichael you a funny :D
They could likely hit a higher warp speed than the cruise speed specifications at the cost of severe engine damage and depletion of all energy. Considering they would be hooking up to mother ship, this would be acceptable and the captain making the call would make it even more authoritative to do so.
Such advanced technology, yet they severely screwed up flashlights.
Wait a second, wasn't deanna betazeed and yet Data says "She is no longer human"
if only Picard wore a face mask upon docking with the ship
And had 5 boosters
**THIS WAS A VERY VERY CREEPY EPISODE!!!!**
chapter name?
The ship isn't upright in space 😆
Might want to correct the title of this. Enterprise is adrift , not at drift
Shuttle has light speed travel capabilities?!
Why didn't Data devolve into a vacuum tube?
So 2 of the senior officers left the shift for several days to find a stray torpedo. Bullshit. That’s a job for an NCO and a grunt.
((giggles. yeah))
At a fundemental level... she was never (fully humand)
What did riker do 😂 yes, riker as commander kicked some serious ass, the riker maneuver in insurrection, and stopped the borg we he was captain in best of both worlds… but there was also that time enterprise crashed and got destroyed in generations. Then again picard was kicking it with kirk though. Idk. Im glad riker dtsyed as commander and turned down captain plenty of times, and how picard turned down admiral, and im sure data, geordi, troi etc turned down promotions just to all stay on the best ship… but when youre serving on enterprise, you could be in a time loop that ends in destruction one week, and be an amphibian the next. Also… dont ask picard how many lights are in a room.
She's no longer human, well she wasn't human before so ...
HAL open the pod bay door. I can’t do that Captain. Data take control of HAL.
Can't leave Riker in charge. Or else he'll ether crash the ship or leave it adrift. 😂
Interesting that the Enterprise is shown upside down and considered a drift when they are in space and they’re really isn’t a definitive up or down.
Maybe an asymmetric thruster on the port or starboard side boosted the ship during the last moments of the degenerating crew and inertia caused it to continually spin
uhh you don't know much about space do you..there is 3 dimensions in space? whats up and down is all relative. you can flip a ship upside down and as long as it has gravity, it doesn't appear to be upside down, that doesn't mean you're not
And....the smallest thing can have big change in space. If a single window burst, the air pressure can be enough to give it a list which after hours or days can cause it to be how it wound up. In one episode they use the decompression of the shuttle bay to move the whole ship in a split second to save it from Fraisers ship hitting them in that causality loop episode.
Specially if they had an uncontrolled drop out of warp where they can tumble...that bit is all science fiction so no one can say.
2 light years in a class 6 shuttle. At warp 3 it would be more than 18 days. even at warp 5 more than 3. Mister Data, you like playing poker, hm?
Took them 7 seconds to reach the enterprise meaning they travelled 9016457.14x the speed of light
@@voluntarism335 In a class 6 shuttle!