Someone at the federation phaser design company decided phasers should have three settings: 1) tickle, 2) aggressive tickle 3) annihilate matter completely. They figured you don't really need more than that.
@@OganySupreme To be fair, with the way phasers work it's not guaranteed to work against every species. The immune systems of different species have different tolerances to disruption (phasers work by disrupting the immune system, causing stunning or killing)
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 how is that odd? A phaser is directed energy at a different frequency compared to plasma energies,. The collision of the two would cause interference by both energies' frequencies merging into one different from both, disrupting the target's energy systems.
"Chorgan, keep perfectly still. Although I am literally covering Yuta with a phaser and the conference table is in the way, whatever you do, don't get up and back away from the situation! If only we could beam Yuta up to the brig, or beam you out of there! And I also apologize to you for grabbing the only phaser in Starfleet that doesn't knock humanoids unconscious, it only has settings for mild discomfort and vaporization! DAMN! WHY ARE MY HANDS TIED BY THIS SITUATION!!!"
@@donaldbadowski290 Anything can be poor writing. It's more about the storytelling. The way it ended was powerful and tragic. Beaming her away or whatever would have just been lackluster.
tellucas - This. Many creatures could withstand all stun settings. In fact, a prolonged/sustained stun blast would prove equally lethal as stun is only a very low power phaser blast.
The second setting on the phaser would have sent an adult Klingon flying across the table and into the back wall so the fact that it only slowed her down showed the strength and resilience of her race.
But could not Riker just continued shooting at the second level instead of going to the third? O,r does the phaser only provider three shots before being useless?
@@answerman9933, She would never have stopped, Riker knew that. He knew if she went the last time she would have got him, so disintegration was the only option
Riker was such a champion. While everybody saw him as second to Picard, he (Riker) had an unparalleled, quiet strength to him that always manifested itself when it mattered most (like in this scene).
Since so many people are asking, I'll explain. The reason Picard is just sitting there, twiddling his thumbs while Riker kills the babe is because Patrick Stewart had to stay really still for the phaser effect not to be disrupted and be clear enough to see. Stewart objected to this but eventually filmed it and here's what we got.
now i want you to explain why riker couldn't just keep stunning her (since phasers can be set to continuous) and then kick her to the other side of the room.
I'd say it could be because of two things. One, Riker was trying to give her a chance to choose not to kill. Two, she was physically stronger to handle the stuns and didn't stun easily. You saw, Riker had the phaser set pretty high already the last time he stunned her. I've seen other people during the series hit with a stun blast of that brief a moment and get knocked out cold. She mentions her cells were altered and her aging slowed. I feel like that gave her an immunity to a lot of things, including the strength to absorb the stuns. Riker had to set the phaser to full blast to stop her. That usually doesn't happen for someone just standing there at close proximity. I'd go more with my second reason with a twist of the first.
Isn't it shown that being struck with a phaser causes problems with transporter locks though? I could be mistaken as I haven't seen the episode I'm vuagely remembering in years.
Agreed! I’m currently rewatching the series and immediately came hear to watch this scene again! Very good episode! Lisa Wilcox was excellent! For a one episode character to have such an emotional impact on the audience… makes me wish this had been a multi-episode arc.
He could have simply walked up and grabbed her - she wasn't any danger to him and had no super-strength or anything - but I guess Riker was too lazy to do that, as was Picard, who just sat there, watching the whole thing.
fireupontheearth the problem is if she can kill with a touch, she has to have the ability to do it when she wants to. Otherwise every person she inadvertently touched over the years would have died. Hard to stay covert when you keep leaving a trail of bodies. So anyone who tried to physically restrain her, she touches and they die. So Riker really didn't have a choice.
The attempt to stun that failed then setting the phaser to kill is pretty standard, especially when you're dealing with someone with a lifelong ambition to murder the last of a family line with a microvirus. The narrative momentum of simply apprehending her would have kept her alive to attempt it again later.
Picard sits there all the time like "well, usually I am the one who should handle a situation like this ... but number one is on duty and I am just here for brandy today!"
Yuta's people were a mere clan, not an entire species. Besides, even if she'd succeeded in her mission, the other gatherers would've killed her or she would've killed herself so her clan line would've ceased to exist no matter what happened.
She managed to survive a high stun setting. What makes you think people could physically restrain her without possibly getting killed...and once they got close enough, phasors might have harmed them.
@@alejandroIsaacCondat That did happen at least twice, first in "Best of Both Worlds", and again in "Gambit" 😁 When Picard was assimilated and his death faked, respectively 😁
Old phaser settings. 1. Stun and knock them out so you can safely detain enemy. 2. Kill. New phaser settings 1. Make some noise and annoy enemy. 2. Kill
Because she had been genetically altered, you would think that not only did this effect her non-ageing but also a highened resistence to any kind of physical assault. thats how I reasoned the storyline anyway.
@Wonko The Sane heck could have done little things like there being a transporter inhibitor in the facility so instead of Riker beaming down he bursts into the room after being beamed outside of the inhibitor field... or she has a personal inhibitor field on her person... As a kid (and now) I assumed the stun settings weren't working because of the crazy genetic enhancing she had.
Someone could have just grabbed her. Her lethal ability only has an effect on one particular clan. Remember, it's a very singleminded bug. Riker had NO cause to kill her.
That second shot was halfway up the dial. It was the heaviest stun the phaser had. If she could shrug that off, there was no choice but to make sure of her.
@@hagamapama hm, according to memory alpha setting 8 (wich is the same as the maximum setting of the type 1 phaser btw) is vaporise. all settings from 9 upwards are for heavy alloys and structural materials. just so you know what hit her with that last salvo: Explosive/Disruption Effects - causes shielded matter to exhibit light mechanical fracturing damage. Approximately 650 cubic meters of rock are disintegrated per shot.
@@hagamapama First shot was stun, second was on 8 (should have vaporized her, but didn't), third was on 16 (should have vaporized her and everything behind her up to a few dozen meters of rock).
Should've edited the scene to include this line when Riker starts to fire the first time: Picard: Picard to Enterprise. Data: Data here, Sir. Picard: Mr. Data, beam down some popcorn with butter, please. Data: Sir? We've been monitoring the situation, would it not better to beam the girl directly into a holding cell? Picard: Mr. Data! Carry out my orders. Data: Yes, Sir, will beam that popcorn down immediately.
I still remember watching this episode for the first time and this final scene was like a punch in the guts. You could feel the betrayal and regret just as much as RIker did. TNG had such absolutely amazing writing.
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To anyone saying he didn't have to vaporize her, keep in mind that he used the same blast on her the first time as he did that guy in the beginning. She shrugged it off, and even a higher setting that would normally knock someone out cold or possible kill them just winded her. They didn't know the full extent of what her alterations made her capable of. All they knew is that she carried a disease that killed on touch, her aging was slowed and she was heavily resistant to phaser fire. The first shot she took was meant to knock her out without killing her, the second to kill her but keep her body intact and the third to vaporize. Because the alterations she underwent left too many unknowns and normal precautions might have been useless, Riker was justified in vaporizing her.
Very upsetting scene, on par with when Yeoman Thompson gets turned into a white polyhedra, then crushed to dust, in the Original Series 'By Any Other Name'; never got over that one.
Except that Yeoman Thompson was good. Yuta turned out to be the villain. So the Thompson case was cold blooded murder; the Yuta case was defense, strange as it seems.
Killing Yeoman Thompson (a cute young woman) instead of Lieutenant Shea (the large black man standing beside her) was obviously meant to subvert and shock audience expectations. It was the 1960s, it was national television, "family" television, and it was _Star Trek_ so it kinda promised to be an optimistically utopian fairy tale ... This scene was deliberately intended to be provocative. What if Thompson was instead shown standing alone? Her death would remain equally meaningless (she was just a guest star with a small role in a security redshirt) but it wouldn't have challenged the common social norms for the era, it wouldn't have upset as many people.
I mean, those phaser settings are kind of standard operating procedure in policing, once the threshold of lethal force is crossed, it's not half-assed, so you'll go from peppersray, taser, to mag-dump.
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Whatever they did to Yuta's cells was pretty intense. Near as I can figure, Riker's phaser was on 10 or 11 with the second shot... that's enough power to drop a rhino in its tracks. Yuta just shrugged it off and kept coming.
Yeah, that's why they can't just tackle her or beam her away. She's a living weapon. There's no telling what strength or hidden weapons she might have to escape from a tight corner. It's like saying the same thing about Danar, with a bioweapon, NO, you can't just assume that normal tactics will work, and beaming her away would only delay the problem, not solve it. Chorgun's life is in danger for as long as Yuta is alive. If Riker can't talk her out of her vendetta then she has to die, or Riker might as well put the phaser to Chorgun's own head, set it to vaporize and pull the trigger.
@@janreznak881 He did try. he gave her 2 chances she didn't need to get despite the fact that she was a deadly threat to Chorgun. He tried to talk her out of it but when the choice was between killling yuta or letting Chorgun die (and with him the chance to formalize a peace to end a civil war) he did what he had to do.
@@janreznak881setting 1, 2, and 3 are light, medium, and heavy stun. Setting 4-8 are various levels of tissue damage. Setting 9-16 are used usually on nonliving matter.
Me: "Yuta, Stop!" Yuta: "I must get to him" Me: * slathers self in jelly and steps in between * Yuta: "Let me at him!" * 1/2 hour of Yuta climbing slip slappery all over me * Me: *smiles"
well, duh...it fit the episode to have her so attractive, due ot her and Riker's, er, "affeection" for one another. Made it more difficult for him ot intervene in the end.
@@lindarogers9406 To be honest, being physically attractive doesn't seem to matter much to Riker in that department. Or being a humanoid biped. Or being organic. Or in a solid state of matter.
Picard: "You know Number 1 .... you could have just kept stunning her until she was incapacitated ...." Riker: "I know" *licks phaser tip* Picard: o.Ô "....Number1!" Riker: "Oh .... yeah, sorry Captain. No withnesses" vaporizes Picard and everyone else*
Great episode and the way Riker figures her out and tries to get to her, both in his quarters and here, are great. If the writers had just let it end more logically, with beaming her to the Brig, Picard tackling her, or just Riker continually stunning her, the episode could have ended on a much higher note.
That woman getting zapped is Lisa Wilcox. She was in the fourth and fifth 'Nightmare on Elm Street' films. Her character survived both films. Ironically, did not survive this episode. She talked about her experience in an interview with Svengoolie.
"Commander, I am in your debt!" "I know. I need a favor from you, and then we can call the debt honored." "Anything! Name your favor and I will consider it done!" ... "It's been a shitty day. Follow me to the airlock."
This scene never made sense to me because all he had to do was Beam her out of there, or beam away the other guy. The bottom line was nobody had to die at all.
One time I was babysitting and I had to shoo the kid away from the cookies in the cupboard. He kept going back. So instead of putting the cookies out of reach I shot him. ... Those cookies had to be saved the only way I could!
That's economically unsound. Everyone knows that in a situation like that, you shoot for the leg. A deceased child doesn't need a babysitter. But a kid with one leg still does.
Watching this as a child i never understood why Riker didnt keep phaser on stun as it seemed to do the job just fine....as an adult, i have exactly the same question
They don't have handcuffs in the future and Riker's knowledge of Ambojitsu renders him about as proficient in unarmed combat as a toddler. He had no choice
How long did it take from the meeting started 'till Riker beamed in. Several minutes, at least. This isn't even the first scene from it. So... what took Yuta so long to try and take on Chorgan in the first place. It couldn't possibly be because of conduct. Like she says: "He's the last. Once he's dead, what happens to her doesn't matter."
yeah I'm glad phasers at full blast never go through a target and just conveniently vaporize only the clothes and biomatter of the first thing they touch!
3 minute death scene that has some poetic death, while 5 episodes of Star Trek Picard that has people dying left and right and you dont give a shit about it.
i can't decide whether it'd be faster to list all the things Picard got wrong, or all the things they got right. in the first case, you'd be here listing things forever, but in the second case, you'd be here forever trying to think of one single thing they did right.
I read in a Star Trek magazine that she was a uniquely tough humanoid. The first setting was stun. The second setting was kill. The third setting was maximum. Some might say that Will vaporized either Michelle Myers or Jessica Vorhees. 😯
I brought up the vacuum/volume issue, I wished it was seen in a larger scale on star trek,it would look awsomely wierd. The air pressure at sea level is 15psi or a few tons per square meter. So real big starship phasers hitting a big target, like the great pyramid at Giza, more than enough to subatomically debond the entire structure. That's hundreds of thousands of cubic meters of rock mostly vanishing so there's a gigantic near vacuum shaped like the great pyramid, and the vast weight of the surrounding air would generate a spectacular implosion.
Yuta was clearly suffering more damage & slowing down each time Riker increased the phaser settings… I’m not sure why he decided to crank it up 4 levels & completely disintegrate her when he probably could’ve just incapacitated her by raising just 1 or 2 levels. Heck, he probably could’ve stopped her cold just by hitting multiple times on the lower setting… Kinda makes me think Riker just wanted to kill her.
Well, easier, better solution to the problem. Riker fires at the chick at the second to last setting which seems to produce pain anyway and she seems to be limited that way. Picard grabs the dude or dude increases the distance on his own towards Riker, outside the firing arc. "Riker to Enterprise two to beam up" and problem solved. In case they couldn't transport her. Or even easier, Riker beams down activates his communicator, says beam up my signal, throws his to the dude, dude get beamed up and then people talk it out like adults.
Well really don't know what kind of hidden powers she has. Trying to get up close physically restrain her is very unwise. Getting too close might be a method of her killing you. Better to use caution.
TheBigExclusive yeah, but they said that the virus she was using was specifically tailored to only kill the Lornak tribe members. It wouldn’t affect Riker or Picard
His phaser was on maximum stun with the first shot. Any normal person would have been completely incapacitated and the second would have surely killed. He added three clicks; he didn't want to kill her, but he knew she would respond to no less, and so, we arrive at the final option. Annihilation.
One of the strongest moments in TNG IMO. That said if the virus she carries to kill is in her DNA why didn't she just spit on the guy if Riker was phaser blocking her?
Stun was the first setting used. Strike one. She still attempted to advance. Strike two. When she attempted a third time to carry out her attack, that was strike three. Lethal force authorized. Riker turned it up to the maximum setting and vaporized her. Picard did nothing because it was clear that Riker had the situation under control. Any sudden movement on part of anyone could have caused the whole situation to escalate out of control.
Except the stun DID have an effect. A more sustained burst would have given time for the target to evacuate the room, if not actually incapacitate the girl. This was simple plot contrivance. Nothing more.
Even in the face of death she continued to assault Chorgan. Apprehending Yuta was no guarantee. Even if she was imprisoned for centuries, she'd come after his children and their children and their children. And thus Riker learns a lesson about not sticking it in the crazy.
Yuta was too close to her final target to risk that. She might have tried to jump or leap forward (completely willing to take another stun blast), then kill her target with a single touch. Riker had to be very careful.
@@russell5078084 Dude. The second shot was set to 4 levels higher to kill anything and it barely did anything but mildly bother her. The first level shot was enough to knock a grown ass guard unconscious. There was no way they could've detained her in that moment without killing her. She was most likely as strong/durable as Data.
This scene opens the door to several anomalies- 1) Picard says/does nothing, 2) The would be victim sees the threat yet doesn't leave the table, 3) Extended stun would have worked, 4) They could have beamed her or the victim away, problem solved. =) If disintegration guns are ever invented, we are all so screwed- forget about solving those crimes.
If those guns are ever invented, imagine the type of technology that goes into them. They would be GPS tracked and everything. There would be no hiding anything. Everything would be logged and reported automatically in some way. Sure sure, "jailbreaking/hacking" the devices. I'm sure there would be a few cases of that happening here and there, but I doubt there would be as many. Much in the same there are cases of unsolved crimes with today's technology. There may always be a way to evade here and there occasionally, but there will always be a way to track and solve more often than not.
There's also the fact that it doesn't completely eliminate every trace of the target. They still leave trace amounts of residual energy mixed with a few remnants of organic matter, as seen when Picard went missing during an undercover mission to track down some artifact thieves. Granted, he wasn't actually hit by a phaser at that point, but the same principles apply.
I'm also sure that all phasers have a unique signature as there have been various episodes when they have been able to recognise certain weapons even when all traces of them are gonna via the radiation and other effects of that nature they leave behind. They may not be able to match a specific phaser but can identify its make and model.
Why would Yuta keep charging toward Chorgan if she knows Riker would keep shooting her? I don't quite get the logic behind it if the phaser blasts are clearly hurting her.
I think he knew she was going to push through his 3rd stun with everything she had so he dialled up the phaser to max power. She's hell bent on completing her mission and she's taken two shots what would have floored him twice over.
it's also a possibility she might have felt herself irredeemable. She'd been hunting targets for years, doing in her mind "the right thing" as a final weapon of her people, only for her to interact with Riker and realise what she was doing was no better than the people she'd been killing. I doubt Yuta ever expected she'd get a happily ever after ending or even considered what she would do once her mission was completed but her mind just couldn't wrap itself around the fact that someone would offer her a way out, even after everything she'd done.
Granted there were non-lethal ways to handle this. But once we reached the point where Yuta was lunging at Chorgon, vaporising her was the best option because, stunned or dead, her presumably still-lethal-to-the-touch corpse would have fallen on Chorgan and killed him.
Someone at the federation phaser design company decided phasers should have three settings: 1) tickle, 2) aggressive tickle 3) annihilate matter completely. They figured you don't really need more than that.
That is of course unless your in need of a Varon-T disruptor, to get rid of those clingy staff members and to keep homesick Androids in line.
@@OganySupreme To be fair, with the way phasers work it's not guaranteed to work against every species. The immune systems of different species have different tolerances to disruption (phasers work by disrupting the immune system, causing stunning or killing)
@@DayneTreader I agree. However I find it odd that some very advance species (some of them made by plasma energy) do still have weakness with phasers.
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 how is that odd? A phaser is directed energy at a different frequency compared to plasma energies,. The collision of the two would cause interference by both energies' frequencies merging into one different from both, disrupting the target's energy systems.
@@DayneTreader nerds
"Chorgan, keep perfectly still. Although I am literally covering Yuta with a phaser and the conference table is in the way, whatever you do, don't get up and back away from the situation! If only we could beam Yuta up to the brig, or beam you out of there! And I also apologize to you for grabbing the only phaser in Starfleet that doesn't knock humanoids unconscious, it only has settings for mild discomfort and vaporization! DAMN! WHY ARE MY HANDS TIED BY THIS SITUATION!!!"
Exactly. He could have pistol whipped (phaser whipped) her and it would have worked just fine. Stupid ending. Poor writing.
@@tellucas Maybe but a punch in the mouth would probably have the usual effect.
@@donaldbadowski290 Anything can be poor writing. It's more about the storytelling. The way it ended was powerful and tragic. Beaming her away or whatever would have just been lackluster.
tellucas - This. Many creatures could withstand all stun settings. In fact, a prolonged/sustained stun blast would prove equally lethal as stun is only a very low power phaser blast.
Exactly. Always thought it was unnecessary to kill her. Everything you said was on point hilarious and I thought the same thing.
Love those phaser settings; Rare, Medium, Well Done.
Pocket Death Star.
Reminds me of a scene from Tiny Toon Adventures: Set your phasers to 'roast'
You forgot one, "Where the hell is she?"
LoL
I think the last one was overcooked lol
Picard was like that one guy in the bar, that is soo drunk, when a fight starts, he is just siting there, trying to make sense of what is happening...
I think its more to do with Patrick Stewart trying not to spoil the FX shot, which also looks like he may be in shock.
The second setting on the phaser would have sent an adult Klingon flying across the table and into the back wall so the fact that it only slowed her down showed the strength and resilience of her race.
Her biological alteration might have had something to do with it as well.
@@szahmad2416 it was definitely her alterations. She was essentially a “Terminator.”
Ah, consistency is FUN!
But could not Riker just continued shooting at the second level instead of going to the third? O,r does the phaser only provider three shots before being useless?
@@answerman9933, She would never have stopped, Riker knew that. He knew if she went the last time she would have got him, so disintegration was the only option
Riker was such a champion. While everybody saw him as second to Picard, he (Riker) had an unparalleled, quiet strength to him that always manifested itself when it mattered most (like in this scene).
I mean he literally saved the galaxy from the borg essentially single-handily. He should have been made grand emperor right then and there
Since so many people are asking, I'll explain. The reason Picard is just sitting there, twiddling his thumbs while Riker kills the babe is because Patrick Stewart had to stay really still for the phaser effect not to be disrupted and be clear enough to see. Stewart objected to this but eventually filmed it and here's what we got.
+Peter Rogers Thank You, Peter you have just saved me the job of explaining that myself.
Pretty sure they've done lots of phaser FX where people were in motion - lots of phaser fights in TNG.
now i want you to explain why riker couldn't just keep stunning her (since phasers can be set to continuous) and then kick her to the other side of the room.
Lazy writers.
I'd say it could be because of two things. One, Riker was trying to give her a chance to choose not to kill. Two, she was physically stronger to handle the stuns and didn't stun easily. You saw, Riker had the phaser set pretty high already the last time he stunned her. I've seen other people during the series hit with a stun blast of that brief a moment and get knocked out cold. She mentions her cells were altered and her aging slowed. I feel like that gave her an immunity to a lot of things, including the strength to absorb the stuns. Riker had to set the phaser to full blast to stop her. That usually doesn't happen for someone just standing there at close proximity. I'd go more with my second reason with a twist of the first.
Riker to Transporter room two. Beam Yuta directly to the brig.
Obrien: Aye Commander.
Riker: Energize.
Roll credits.
Or they beam the dude up if the transporter doesn't work on the woman.
not sure beaming is allowed intonthe brig
Riker to Transporter room two. Beam Yuta directly into my bedroom.
@Rnl Valen lol
Riker to Transporter Room two, correction to previous orders. Beam in Dr Crusher as well and make it a fourway.
Hmmm, I could keep stunning her until we beam her to the brig...
"Riker, I'm pregnant."
Setting phaser to maximum...
Isn't it shown that being struck with a phaser causes problems with transporter locks though? I could be mistaken as I haven't seen the episode I'm vuagely remembering in years.
She was alerted, so transporter would been ineffective on her.
@robert gardell she was altered
kev3d, ha ha ha ha ha .......
Nice.
This was a well-acted and very affecting episode. Great guest stars, especially Yuta, whose death hurt.
Agreed! I’m currently rewatching the series and immediately came hear to watch this scene again! Very good episode! Lisa Wilcox was excellent! For a one episode character to have such an emotional impact on the audience… makes me wish this had been a multi-episode arc.
The stun was stopping her pretty effectively, he could have just kept stunning her but instead he vaporizes her. LOL
Yeah that was pretty fucked up. Thats the first thing ive thought when i saw this episode
He could have simply walked up and grabbed her - she wasn't any danger to him and had no super-strength or anything - but I guess Riker was too lazy to do that, as was Picard, who just sat there, watching the whole thing.
seems like stun setting only slows her down, does not actually 'stun' her. She could easily have other concealed weapons to kill with
fireupontheearth the problem is if she can kill with a touch, she has to have the ability to do it when she wants to. Otherwise every person she inadvertently touched over the years would have died. Hard to stay covert when you keep leaving a trail of bodies. So anyone who tried to physically restrain her, she touches and they die. So Riker really didn't have a choice.
The attempt to stun that failed then setting the phaser to kill is pretty standard, especially when you're dealing with someone with a lifelong ambition to murder the last of a family line with a microvirus. The narrative momentum of simply apprehending her would have kept her alive to attempt it again later.
Picard sits there all the time like "well, usually I am the one who should handle a situation like this ... but number one is on duty and I am just here for brandy today!"
"Congratulations, Number 1! You have rendered extinct your first race!" o.o
Only 900 more to go!
Yuta's people were a mere clan, not an entire species. Besides, even if she'd succeeded in her mission, the other gatherers would've killed her or she would've killed herself so her clan line would've ceased to exist no matter what happened.
Since she was just one left, i would say it was already extinct.
"we come in peace, shoot to kill" ...its somewhere in the prime directive in really small font.
"You've just committed an act of utter barbarity....WELL DONE"
Riker was the FIRST to require six feet of distance to fight a virus.
+10
That started during the Bubonic plague
Very good lol
You have good taste, man.
This was a great episode and not to mention the best Star Trek series.
This scene would have been better if it showed Picard sipping his brandy as she got vaporized.
Alphonse Zukor Tea.. Earl Gray.. Hot
+Alphonse Zukor. Tears of laughter. Funniest thing I've read all year. Thanks man.
lol awesome
Or playing his flute
Omg you are the actor playing the guy she was trying to kill!
"Guards who are not of her target clan, restrain her!"
*roll credits*
don't know what other abilities she had....that could've worked out about as well as Jayne and company trying to restrain River when she snapped
She managed to survive a high stun setting. What makes you think people could physically restrain her without possibly getting killed...and once they got close enough, phasors might have harmed them.
Picard was directly in the line of fire on that last shot.
imagine riker accidentally holds the trigger for a second too long, the blast flies straight through the disintegrating woman and into him
Well guess he would become captain if that happens 😆
@@alejandroIsaacCondat That did happen at least twice, first in "Best of Both Worlds", and again in "Gambit" 😁 When Picard was assimilated and his death faked, respectively 😁
Those settings sure escalate quickly: 1) Stun. 2) Stun with more pain. 3) De-atomize.
*Misses. Hits Picard*
Riker: "Ooops....What the hell, I guess I'm the captain now!"
Which is probably why Picard stayed still.
Once again you've made me go from here to watch the full episode for myself on Paramount+/Prime lol
She confesses her sins so conveniently, allowing Riker to be Judge Dredd.
Well, ever watch Perry Mason or Matlock or....(they all admit it)
@@lindarogers9406 that's true. Luckily Matt lock always got someone who was innocent except for one person
RESPECT THE BADGE!! FEAR THE GUN!! DROKK IT!!
Wow, that was a good scene imo. Riker was definitely portrayed as regretfully killing that woman, good acting.
theres always someone to defend nonsense. im assuming that you also unironically love Todd Howard?
@@SobeCrunkMonsterhuh
Old phaser settings.
1. Stun and knock them out so you can safely detain enemy.
2. Kill.
New phaser settings
1. Make some noise and annoy enemy.
2. Kill
She took a phaser hit on level 8! That will disintegrate normal humanoids. She's phaser resistant.
A perfect example of Riker doing his duty as Commander. Making the hard choices so the Captain doesn't have to.
I love how she confesses to everything.
This is a great underrated TNG scene.
“Commander, should we beam Uta directly to the Brig?” “No no no, I want to try out this Varon T disruptor I borrowed from Mr. Data.”
Because she had been genetically altered, you would think that not only did this effect her non-ageing but also a highened resistence to any kind of physical assault. thats how I reasoned the storyline anyway.
@Wonko The Sane heck could have done little things like there being a transporter inhibitor in the facility so instead of Riker beaming down he bursts into the room after being beamed outside of the inhibitor field... or she has a personal inhibitor field on her person...
As a kid (and now) I assumed the stun settings weren't working because of the crazy genetic enhancing she had.
"You're wrong, Chorgon...We've agreed to watch an awesome UA-cam clip together."
Someone could have just grabbed her. Her lethal ability only has an effect on one particular clan. Remember, it's a very singleminded bug. Riker had NO cause to kill her.
Or beamed her to the brig. Riker had just beamed in, so there were no shields to worry about.
She was determined to kill him. The brig would not have been enough.
@@Boxanadu How so? She is carrying a lethal disease, she's not superhuman.
@@STNeish Remember how she charmed her way towards her target? She could charm her way again.
Yes he did.
0:55 - DO NOT move away from certain death, but stay put and HOPE that I will handle the situation, or the phaser wont malfunction.
Damn, Riker hit her with a light stun, then a medium stun...then cranked it to setting 15- vaporization
Actually, the second hit was on setting 10 or so. That's hot enough to blow a hole in a rhinoceros.
That second shot was halfway up the dial. It was the heaviest stun the phaser had. If she could shrug that off, there was no choice but to make sure of her.
@@hagamapama hm, according to memory alpha setting 8 (wich is the same as the maximum setting of the type 1 phaser btw) is vaporise. all settings from 9 upwards are for heavy alloys and structural materials.
just so you know what hit her with that last salvo:
Explosive/Disruption Effects - causes shielded matter to exhibit light mechanical fracturing damage. Approximately 650 cubic meters of rock are disintegrated per shot.
@@hagamapama First shot was stun, second was on 8 (should have vaporized her, but didn't), third was on 16 (should have vaporized her and everything behind her up to a few dozen meters of rock).
More like med stun, high stun/low kill, then finally vaporize.
RIP Stephen Lee. Superb in everything you did..............
That was an amazing seen you can tell that Johnson Frank's AKA Commander riker did not enjoy killing her but did his duty as a commanding officer
Should've edited the scene to include this line when Riker starts to fire the first time:
Picard: Picard to Enterprise.
Data: Data here, Sir.
Picard: Mr. Data, beam down some popcorn with butter, please.
Data: Sir? We've been monitoring the situation, would it not better to beam the girl directly into a holding cell?
Picard: Mr. Data! Carry out my orders.
Data: Yes, Sir, will beam that popcorn down immediately.
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I still remember watching this episode for the first time and this final scene was like a punch in the guts. You could feel the betrayal and regret just as much as RIker did. TNG had such absolutely amazing writing.
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I like how Uta, as she prepared for the last attempt, struck a pose not unlike a cartoon character about to run.
I remember when this episode first
came out. This scene was pretty chilling.
To anyone saying he didn't have to vaporize her, keep in mind that he used the same blast on her the first time as he did that guy in the beginning. She shrugged it off, and even a higher setting that would normally knock someone out cold or possible kill them just winded her. They didn't know the full extent of what her alterations made her capable of. All they knew is that she carried a disease that killed on touch, her aging was slowed and she was heavily resistant to phaser fire. The first shot she took was meant to knock her out without killing her, the second to kill her but keep her body intact and the third to vaporize. Because the alterations she underwent left too many unknowns and normal precautions might have been useless, Riker was justified in vaporizing her.
After all that dialogue, Picard: explain to me why we need Troi on board??
Chorgon> You’ll never leave this ship alive
Riker> hold my beer
Picard: Note to self: Don’t piss off Riker.
Very upsetting scene, on par with when Yeoman Thompson gets turned into a white polyhedra, then crushed to dust, in the Original Series 'By Any Other Name'; never got over that one.
Yeah, that used to always bug me as a kid....
She rolled a 1
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Except that Yeoman Thompson was good. Yuta turned out to be the villain. So the Thompson case was cold blooded murder; the Yuta case was defense, strange as it seems.
Killing Yeoman Thompson (a cute young woman) instead of Lieutenant Shea (the large black man standing beside her) was obviously meant to subvert and shock audience expectations. It was the 1960s, it was national television, "family" television, and it was _Star Trek_ so it kinda promised to be an optimistically utopian fairy tale ...
This scene was deliberately intended to be provocative. What if Thompson was instead shown standing alone? Her death would remain equally meaningless (she was just a guest star with a small role in a security redshirt) but it wouldn't have challenged the common social norms for the era, it wouldn't have upset as many people.
I mean, those phaser settings are kind of standard operating procedure in policing, once the threshold of lethal force is crossed, it's not half-assed, so you'll go from peppersray, taser, to mag-dump.
The crew kinda forgot that they can beam her out of there. LMAO
A "blast" to the past.
“On the plains of hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions who at the dawn of victory lay down to rest, and in resting died.”
Adlai Stevenson
I laughed hard whenever I realized that the Sovereign is also that mean female coach from Porky's.
Ballbraker?
Oh shit. LOL I totally didn't notice until you said so!
@@Ardenwolfe here's a TNG edit that exploited that fact: ua-cam.com/video/MQWvt-ASWqI/v-deo.html
"Now, Mr Carter I realise how unorthadox this is, but I believe its the only way to find that boy. That penis had a mole on it, I'd recognise that penis anywhere!"
no fuckin way hahahah
Whatever they did to Yuta's cells was pretty intense. Near as I can figure, Riker's phaser was on 10 or 11 with the second shot... that's enough power to drop a rhino in its tracks. Yuta just shrugged it off and kept coming.
Yeah, that's why they can't just tackle her or beam her away. She's a living weapon. There's no telling what strength or hidden weapons she might have to escape from a tight corner. It's like saying the same thing about Danar, with a bioweapon, NO, you can't just assume that normal tactics will work, and beaming her away would only delay the problem, not solve it.
Chorgun's life is in danger for as long as Yuta is alive. If Riker can't talk her out of her vendetta then she has to die, or Riker might as well put the phaser to Chorgun's own head, set it to vaporize and pull the trigger.
@@hagamapama Point is, you still try. I thought "the Starfleet way" would be to exhaust all other opportunities before going lethal. Apparently not.
@@janreznak881 He did try. he gave her 2 chances she didn't need to get despite the fact that she was a deadly threat to Chorgun.
He tried to talk her out of it but when the choice was between killling yuta or letting Chorgun die (and with him the chance to formalize a peace to end a civil war) he did what he had to do.
That’s enough power to melt through light armor plating with that second shot
@@janreznak881setting 1, 2, and 3 are light, medium, and heavy stun. Setting 4-8 are various levels of tissue damage. Setting 9-16 are used usually on nonliving matter.
For Riker, breaking up is literally hard to do.
Indeed but the Penske file says this is the worst episode so u agree with him
2:10 Picard actually looking like Charles Xavier from the 90s cartoon.
Yeah, he should totally play that role if they ever make a live action X-Men film....oh, wait... ;)
Me: "Yuta, Stop!"
Yuta: "I must get to him"
Me: * slathers self in jelly and steps in between *
Yuta: "Let me at him!"
* 1/2 hour of Yuta climbing slip slappery all over me *
Me: *smiles"
Throw in some chocolate syrup and Troi would be joining the party . . .
The Kirk Maneuver.
0:48 "It was 50 years ago..."
1:23 "But on the day, a century ago..."
Got it.
NYCamper62
The transformation happened 100 years ago. Her encounter with the other person was 50 years ago. No issues with timeline there.
What an excellent show. Just excellent.
This is a great episode and still has people talking about the decision made by Riker even today after 30 years.
He accidentally misses when she tucks. Hitting Picard. Well.. guess I’m captain now
I remembered when this aired. I always thought her to be very attractive.
well, duh...it fit the episode to have her so attractive, due ot her and Riker's, er, "affeection" for one another. Made it more difficult for him ot intervene in the end.
@@lindarogers9406 To be honest, being physically attractive doesn't seem to matter much to Riker in that department. Or being a humanoid biped. Or being organic. Or in a solid state of matter.
Picard: "You know Number 1 .... you could have just kept stunning her until she was incapacitated ...."
Riker: "I know" *licks phaser tip*
Picard: o.Ô "....Number1!"
Riker: "Oh .... yeah, sorry Captain. No withnesses" vaporizes Picard and everyone else*
LKVideos Riker is straight up gangsta!
"Computer, load save.
...Oh shit, this isn't the holodeck!"
Great episode and the way Riker figures her out and tries to get to her, both in his quarters and here, are great. If the writers had just let it end more logically, with beaming her to the Brig, Picard tackling her, or just Riker continually stunning her, the episode could have ended on a much higher note.
That would have been too lame and lightweight though, this showed Star Trek wasn't all twee humdrum dramatics.
That woman getting zapped is Lisa Wilcox. She was in the fourth and fifth 'Nightmare on Elm Street' films. Her character survived both films. Ironically, did not survive this episode. She talked about her experience in an interview with Svengoolie.
It was totally unnecessary for him to kill her!
Yes it was. It was written on the last page of the script. He had no choice.
Picard: "You just ruined your career, Commander." 3:09
OMG!! It's ballbreaker from Porky's!
Damn, I'm old.
5 Lornak in the nude? A security line up, so that you can scan...his tallywacker?
The dude who played Tommy in Porky's appeared in Season 1
Better a high ranking diplomat than someone chasing the owner of an elusive peen
Picard was shitting his pants on that last shot. He's lucky Riker didn't miss. Worf would have.
Wonder who Worf *would’ve* hit by mistake, the old lady, the dude opposite of the old lady, Picard, or the guards?
"Commander, I am in your debt!"
"I know. I need a favor from you, and then we can call the debt honored."
"Anything! Name your favor and I will consider it done!"
...
"It's been a shitty day. Follow me to the airlock."
You know, when you think about it, I wonder if the writers for No Time to Die took their idea for the nanites from this TNG episode.
3:04, Riker's Phaser Has the "Omega" Effect, Just Like Darkseid's Red Eyes
RIP Stephen Lee 1955-2014
This scene never made sense to me because all he had to do was Beam her out of there, or beam away the other guy. The bottom line was nobody had to die at all.
Riker’s morning after pill.
One time I was babysitting and I had to shoo the kid away from the cookies in the cupboard. He kept going back. So instead of putting the cookies out of reach I shot him. ...
Those cookies had to be saved the only way I could!
That's economically unsound. Everyone knows that in a situation like that, you shoot for the leg. A deceased child doesn't need a babysitter. But a kid with one leg still does.
How Riker could have saved his babe from the Enterprise :
Mr. O’Brien, located and lock into Yuta and beam her directly to my quarters.
Watching this as a child i never understood why Riker didnt keep phaser on stun as it seemed to do the job just fine....as an adult, i have exactly the same question
Couldn't be sure it would continue doing the job, and she was determined. And what if he missed, or hit her arm?
Seemingly, Yuta's body adjusted, similar to that of the Borg. As a result, each forward movement by Yuta necessitated increased phaser power.
Pretty good aim for shooting from the hip. Just a little to right and Picard would have been toast.
They don't have handcuffs in the future and Riker's knowledge of Ambojitsu renders him about as proficient in unarmed combat as a toddler. He had no choice
Lol!
With how she was altered, *doubt* even handcuffs strong enough to restrain even Data would’ve been enough.
How long did it take from the meeting started 'till Riker beamed in. Several minutes, at least. This isn't even the first scene from it. So... what took Yuta so long to try and take on Chorgan in the first place. It couldn't possibly be because of conduct. Like she says: "He's the last. Once he's dead, what happens to her doesn't matter."
Riker's got a lot of confidence in his aim with Picard directly in the line of fire. "Know your target and what's behind it"
yeah I'm glad phasers at full blast never go through a target and just conveniently vaporize only the clothes and biomatter of the first thing they touch!
The only other alternative was for Riker to kill her. She spent a century killing her enemies, she would never stop.
3 minute death scene that has some poetic death, while 5 episodes of Star Trek Picard that has people dying left and right and you dont give a shit about it.
i can't decide whether it'd be faster to list all the things Picard got wrong, or all the things they got right. in the first case, you'd be here listing things forever, but in the second case, you'd be here forever trying to think of one single thing they did right.
@@gsofficial or i'd be listening to war hammer 40k audiobooks. time well spent
Don't try it Anakin, I have phasers set to from "Ouch" to "AAAah!"
Riker was written like Bond.
A player, but he cared for all of the women.
He'll need that shoreleave.
Chorgan : "Commander, I am in your debt."
Riker : ..... Looks away in utter disgust and contempt.
Chorgan: Maybe I can find you a girl just as pretty...
Riker: Now you’re talking my language, just make sure she’s not a homicidal lunatic.
I read in a Star Trek magazine that she was a uniquely tough humanoid. The first setting was stun. The second setting was kill. The third setting was maximum. Some might say that Will vaporized either Michelle Myers or Jessica Vorhees. 😯
I brought up the vacuum/volume issue, I wished it was seen in a larger scale on star trek,it would look awsomely wierd.
The air pressure at sea level is 15psi or a few tons per square meter. So real big starship phasers hitting a big target, like the great pyramid at Giza, more than enough to subatomically debond the entire structure.
That's hundreds of thousands of cubic meters of rock mostly vanishing so there's a gigantic near vacuum shaped like the great pyramid, and the vast weight of the surrounding air would generate a spectacular implosion.
Yuta was clearly suffering more damage & slowing down each time Riker increased the phaser settings… I’m not sure why he decided to crank it up 4 levels & completely disintegrate her when he probably could’ve just incapacitated her by raising just 1 or 2 levels. Heck, he probably could’ve stopped her cold just by hitting multiple times on the lower setting… Kinda makes me think Riker just wanted to kill her.
Greatest plot device in sci-fi shows. When the stun setting works, or when it doesn't.
Well, easier, better solution to the problem. Riker fires at the chick at the second to last setting which seems to produce pain anyway and she seems to be limited that way. Picard grabs the dude or dude increases the distance on his own towards Riker, outside the firing arc. "Riker to Enterprise two to beam up" and problem solved. In case they couldn't transport her.
Or even easier, Riker beams down activates his communicator, says beam up my signal, throws his to the dude, dude get beamed up and then people talk it out like adults.
Commander Riker had no choice, the first two phaser settings didn't neutralize her at first, the third and final setting did the job.
I guess Riker doesn't get many opportunity to play with the disintegration setting. Otherwise he could've just ran over and restrained her.
Well really don't know what kind of hidden powers she has. Trying to get up close physically restrain her is very unwise. Getting too close might be a method of her killing you. Better to use caution.
TheBigExclusive yeah, but they said that the virus she was using was specifically tailored to only kill the Lornak tribe members. It wouldn’t affect Riker or Picard
His phaser was on maximum stun with the first shot. Any normal person would have been completely incapacitated and the second would have surely killed. He added three clicks; he didn't want to kill her, but he knew she would respond to no less, and so, we arrive at the final option. Annihilation.
One of the strongest moments in TNG IMO.
That said if the virus she carries to kill is in her DNA why didn't she just spit on the guy if Riker was phaser blocking her?
probably not dramatic enough.
"Phaser-blocking" has a nice ring to it.
So that the show can happen.
Stun was the first setting used. Strike one.
She still attempted to advance. Strike two.
When she attempted a third time to carry out her attack, that was strike three. Lethal force authorized. Riker turned it up to the maximum setting and vaporized her.
Picard did nothing because it was clear that Riker had the situation under control. Any sudden movement on part of anyone could have caused the whole situation to escalate out of control.
Except the stun DID have an effect. A more sustained burst would have given time for the target to evacuate the room, if not actually incapacitate the girl. This was simple plot contrivance. Nothing more.
Just keep stunning long enough for Chorgan to be escorted out of the room. How hard would that have been?
Except that the "stun" setting had no effect on her.
no the stun setting wasn't enough, he had to kill her
Even in the face of death she continued to assault Chorgan. Apprehending Yuta was no guarantee. Even if she was imprisoned for centuries, she'd come after his children and their children and their children.
And thus Riker learns a lesson about not sticking it in the crazy.
Yuta was too close to her final target to risk that. She might have tried to jump or leap forward (completely willing to take another stun blast), then kill her target with a single touch. Riker had to be very careful.
And how many had she already killed?
She said marry, fuck, kill. Riker said I'll go for 2 out of 3.
Evaporating her seems a little extreme. Don't they have a stun setting?
He tried!
Whatever was done to alter her DNA must've caused her to have a resistance to the stun setting, therefore Riker had to use the 'vaporize' setting.
@@Raider0075 I disagree. Considering how much it was hurting her, if he kept shooting quickly enough it probably would have knocked her out.
@@russell5078084 Dude. The second shot was set to 4 levels higher to kill anything and it barely did anything but mildly bother her. The first level shot was enough to knock a grown ass guard unconscious. There was no way they could've detained her in that moment without killing her. She was most likely as strong/durable as Data.
@@Isabelle-xp9vm ridiculous.
"Chorgan, keep perfectly still. Composite shot is harder when the background is moving."
This scene opens the door to several anomalies- 1) Picard says/does nothing, 2) The would be victim sees the threat yet doesn't leave the table, 3) Extended stun would have worked, 4) They could have beamed her or the victim away, problem solved. =)
If disintegration guns are ever invented, we are all so screwed- forget about solving those crimes.
If those guns are ever invented, imagine the type of technology that goes into them. They would be GPS tracked and everything. There would be no hiding anything. Everything would be logged and reported automatically in some way. Sure sure, "jailbreaking/hacking" the devices. I'm sure there would be a few cases of that happening here and there, but I doubt there would be as many. Much in the same there are cases of unsolved crimes with today's technology. There may always be a way to evade here and there occasionally, but there will always be a way to track and solve more often than not.
There's also the fact that it doesn't completely eliminate every trace of the target. They still leave trace amounts of residual energy mixed with a few remnants of organic matter, as seen when Picard went missing during an undercover mission to track down some artifact thieves. Granted, he wasn't actually hit by a phaser at that point, but the same principles apply.
I'm also sure that all phasers have a unique signature as there have been various episodes when they have been able to recognise certain weapons even when all traces of them are gonna via the radiation and other effects of that nature they leave behind. They may not be able to match a specific phaser but can identify its make and model.
Yes number one...I can feel your anger...gives you focus, makes you strong!
Why would Yuta keep charging toward Chorgan if she knows Riker would keep shooting her? I don't quite get the logic behind it if the phaser blasts are clearly hurting her.
I think he knew she was going to push through his 3rd stun with everything she had so he dialled up the phaser to max power. She's hell bent on completing her mission and she's taken two shots what would have floored him twice over.
it's also a possibility she might have felt herself irredeemable. She'd been hunting targets for years, doing in her mind "the right thing" as a final weapon of her people, only for her to interact with Riker and realise what she was doing was no better than the people she'd been killing.
I doubt Yuta ever expected she'd get a happily ever after ending or even considered what she would do once her mission was completed but her mind just couldn't wrap itself around the fact that someone would offer her a way out, even after everything she'd done.
Granted there were non-lethal ways to handle this.
But once we reached the point where Yuta was lunging at Chorgon, vaporising her was the best option because, stunned or dead, her presumably still-lethal-to-the-touch corpse would have fallen on Chorgan and killed him.