Star Trek STNG Moments 57 The Vengeance Factor

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    Episode :57 Riker first falls for then exposes an assassin in the midst of critical peace talks.
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  • @namechamps
    @namechamps 4 роки тому +701

    Someone at the federation phaser design company decided phasers should have three settings: 1) tickle, 2) aggressive tickle 3) annihilate matter completely. They figured you don't really need more than that.

    • @DarMokChannelSTMoments
      @DarMokChannelSTMoments  4 роки тому +53

      That is of course unless your in need of a Varon-T disruptor, to get rid of those clingy staff members and to keep homesick Androids in line.

    • @DayneTreader
      @DayneTreader 3 роки тому +15

      @@OganySupreme To be fair, with the way phasers work it's not guaranteed to work against every species. The immune systems of different species have different tolerances to disruption (phasers work by disrupting the immune system, causing stunning or killing)

    • @eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653
      @eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 3 роки тому +9

      @@DayneTreader I agree. However I find it odd that some very advance species (some of them made by plasma energy) do still have weakness with phasers.

    • @DayneTreader
      @DayneTreader 3 роки тому +7

      @@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 how is that odd? A phaser is directed energy at a different frequency compared to plasma energies,. The collision of the two would cause interference by both energies' frequencies merging into one different from both, disrupting the target's energy systems.

    • @cheerlessnessofthegrove6710
      @cheerlessnessofthegrove6710 3 роки тому +6

      @@DayneTreader nerds

  • @DrTenochtitlan
    @DrTenochtitlan 4 роки тому +643

    "Chorgan, keep perfectly still. Although I am literally covering Yuta with a phaser and the conference table is in the way, whatever you do, don't get up and back away from the situation! If only we could beam Yuta up to the brig, or beam you out of there! And I also apologize to you for grabbing the only phaser in Starfleet that doesn't knock humanoids unconscious, it only has settings for mild discomfort and vaporization! DAMN! WHY ARE MY HANDS TIED BY THIS SITUATION!!!"

    • @donaldbadowski290
      @donaldbadowski290 4 роки тому +24

      Exactly. He could have pistol whipped (phaser whipped) her and it would have worked just fine. Stupid ending. Poor writing.

    • @magsteel9891
      @magsteel9891 4 роки тому +23

      @@tellucas Maybe but a punch in the mouth would probably have the usual effect.

    • @zairman
      @zairman 4 роки тому +44

      @@donaldbadowski290 Anything can be poor writing. It's more about the storytelling. The way it ended was powerful and tragic. Beaming her away or whatever would have just been lackluster.

    • @qdllc
      @qdllc 4 роки тому +14

      tellucas - This. Many creatures could withstand all stun settings. In fact, a prolonged/sustained stun blast would prove equally lethal as stun is only a very low power phaser blast.

    • @mem1701movies
      @mem1701movies 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly. Always thought it was unnecessary to kill her. Everything you said was on point hilarious and I thought the same thing.

  • @TileGuyJesse
    @TileGuyJesse 5 років тому +802

    Love those phaser settings; Rare, Medium, Well Done.

    • @KatriceMetaluna
      @KatriceMetaluna 5 років тому +32

      Pocket Death Star.

    • @YehatTerminator
      @YehatTerminator 4 роки тому +13

      Reminds me of a scene from Tiny Toon Adventures: Set your phasers to 'roast'

    • @crazylarryjr
      @crazylarryjr 4 роки тому +8

      You forgot one, "Where the hell is she?"

    • @KhemistryIBMOR
      @KhemistryIBMOR 4 роки тому +2

      LoL

    • @mrm6001
      @mrm6001 4 роки тому +3

      I think the last one was overcooked lol

  • @matp8454
    @matp8454 4 роки тому +62

    Picard was like that one guy in the bar, that is soo drunk, when a fight starts, he is just siting there, trying to make sense of what is happening...

    • @DarMokChannelSTMoments
      @DarMokChannelSTMoments  4 роки тому +8

      I think its more to do with Patrick Stewart trying not to spoil the FX shot, which also looks like he may be in shock.

  • @commanderdon4300
    @commanderdon4300 6 років тому +177

    The second setting on the phaser would have sent an adult Klingon flying across the table and into the back wall so the fact that it only slowed her down showed the strength and resilience of her race.

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 2 роки тому +27

      Her biological alteration might have had something to do with it as well.

    • @Pogol13
      @Pogol13 Рік тому +18

      @@szahmad2416 it was definitely her alterations. She was essentially a “Terminator.”

    • @bbenjoe
      @bbenjoe Рік тому +3

      Ah, consistency is FUN!

    • @answerman9933
      @answerman9933 6 місяців тому +1

      But could not Riker just continued shooting at the second level instead of going to the third? O,r does the phaser only provider three shots before being useless?

    • @crazylarryjr
      @crazylarryjr 5 місяців тому +1

      @@answerman9933, She would never have stopped, Riker knew that. He knew if she went the last time she would have got him, so disintegration was the only option

  • @adila7071
    @adila7071 4 роки тому +55

    Riker was such a champion. While everybody saw him as second to Picard, he (Riker) had an unparalleled, quiet strength to him that always manifested itself when it mattered most (like in this scene).

  • @Grymmorgan
    @Grymmorgan 7 років тому +531

    "Congratulations, Number 1! You have rendered extinct your first race!" o.o

    • @manco828
      @manco828 7 років тому +8

      Only 900 more to go!

    • @girlgarde
      @girlgarde 6 років тому +61

      Yuta's people were a mere clan, not an entire species. Besides, even if she'd succeeded in her mission, the other gatherers would've killed her or she would've killed herself so her clan line would've ceased to exist no matter what happened.

    • @Zamolxes77
      @Zamolxes77 5 років тому +9

      Since she was just one left, i would say it was already extinct.

    • @Makorze
      @Makorze 5 років тому +11

      "we come in peace, shoot to kill" ...its somewhere in the prime directive in really small font.

    • @FortoFight
      @FortoFight 4 роки тому +11

      "You've just committed an act of utter barbarity....WELL DONE"

  • @linkingisnonsense
    @linkingisnonsense 6 років тому +867

    Riker to Transporter room two. Beam Yuta directly to the brig.
    Obrien: Aye Commander.
    Riker: Energize.
    Roll credits.

    • @NephritduGrey
      @NephritduGrey 6 років тому +58

      Or they beam the dude up if the transporter doesn't work on the woman.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 6 років тому

      not sure beaming is allowed intonthe brig

    • @valenrn8657
      @valenrn8657 5 років тому +160

      Riker to Transporter room two. Beam Yuta directly into my bedroom.

    • @cheegum6296
      @cheegum6296 5 років тому +7

      @Rnl Valen lol

    • @Dabhach1
      @Dabhach1 5 років тому +47

      Riker to Transporter Room two, correction to previous orders. Beam in Dr Crusher as well and make it a fourway.

  • @fireupontheearth
    @fireupontheearth 7 років тому +670

    The stun was stopping her pretty effectively, he could have just kept stunning her but instead he vaporizes her. LOL

    • @damir4132
      @damir4132 7 років тому +86

      Yeah that was pretty fucked up. Thats the first thing ive thought when i saw this episode

    • @jpowell180
      @jpowell180 7 років тому +128

      He could have simply walked up and grabbed her - she wasn't any danger to him and had no super-strength or anything - but I guess Riker was too lazy to do that, as was Picard, who just sat there, watching the whole thing.

    • @epicstyle1000
      @epicstyle1000 6 років тому +36

      seems like stun setting only slows her down, does not actually 'stun' her. She could easily have other concealed weapons to kill with

    • @russell5078084
      @russell5078084 6 років тому +110

      fireupontheearth the problem is if she can kill with a touch, she has to have the ability to do it when she wants to. Otherwise every person she inadvertently touched over the years would have died. Hard to stay covert when you keep leaving a trail of bodies. So anyone who tried to physically restrain her, she touches and they die. So Riker really didn't have a choice.

    • @kilroy987
      @kilroy987 6 років тому +46

      The attempt to stun that failed then setting the phaser to kill is pretty standard, especially when you're dealing with someone with a lifelong ambition to murder the last of a family line with a microvirus. The narrative momentum of simply apprehending her would have kept her alive to attempt it again later.

  • @kev3d
    @kev3d 5 років тому +469

    Hmmm, I could keep stunning her until we beam her to the brig...
    "Riker, I'm pregnant."
    Setting phaser to maximum...

    • @novaiscool1
      @novaiscool1 5 років тому +6

      Isn't it shown that being struck with a phaser causes problems with transporter locks though? I could be mistaken as I haven't seen the episode I'm vuagely remembering in years.

    • @row759
      @row759 5 років тому +3

      She was alerted, so transporter would been ineffective on her.

    • @umbree6407
      @umbree6407 5 років тому +3

      @robert gardell she was altered

    • @steve0826
      @steve0826 5 років тому +1

      kev3d, ha ha ha ha ha .......

    • @rezalucien9325
      @rezalucien9325 4 роки тому

      Nice.

  • @kubli365
    @kubli365 3 роки тому +50

    "Guards who are not of her target clan, restrain her!"
    *roll credits*

    • @josephamendolea3431
      @josephamendolea3431 2 роки тому +2

      don't know what other abilities she had....that could've worked out about as well as Jayne and company trying to restrain River when she snapped

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 2 роки тому +4

      She managed to survive a high stun setting. What makes you think people could physically restrain her without possibly getting killed...and once they got close enough, phasors might have harmed them.

  • @peterrogers8706
    @peterrogers8706 8 років тому +368

    Since so many people are asking, I'll explain. The reason Picard is just sitting there, twiddling his thumbs while Riker kills the babe is because Patrick Stewart had to stay really still for the phaser effect not to be disrupted and be clear enough to see. Stewart objected to this but eventually filmed it and here's what we got.

    • @DarMokChannelSTMoments
      @DarMokChannelSTMoments  8 років тому +59

      +Peter Rogers Thank You, Peter you have just saved me the job of explaining that myself.

    • @jpowell180
      @jpowell180 7 років тому +8

      Pretty sure they've done lots of phaser FX where people were in motion - lots of phaser fights in TNG.

    • @ernstergarcia
      @ernstergarcia 7 років тому +29

      now i want you to explain why riker couldn't just keep stunning her (since phasers can be set to continuous) and then kick her to the other side of the room.

    • @BloodofPatriots
      @BloodofPatriots 6 років тому +27

      Lazy writers.

    • @Pierreandandre
      @Pierreandandre 6 років тому +59

      I'd say it could be because of two things. One, Riker was trying to give her a chance to choose not to kill. Two, she was physically stronger to handle the stuns and didn't stun easily. You saw, Riker had the phaser set pretty high already the last time he stunned her. I've seen other people during the series hit with a stun blast of that brief a moment and get knocked out cold. She mentions her cells were altered and her aging slowed. I feel like that gave her an immunity to a lot of things, including the strength to absorb the stuns. Riker had to set the phaser to full blast to stop her. That usually doesn't happen for someone just standing there at close proximity. I'd go more with my second reason with a twist of the first.

  • @marcocappelli2236
    @marcocappelli2236 6 років тому +43

    *Misses. Hits Picard*
    Riker: "Ooops....What the hell, I guess I'm the captain now!"

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 3 роки тому +2

      Which is probably why Picard stayed still.

  • @s.o.4339
    @s.o.4339 10 місяців тому +4

    Picard sits there all the time like "well, usually I am the one who should handle a situation like this ... but number one is on duty and I am just here for brandy today!"

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday Рік тому +127

    Riker was the FIRST to require six feet of distance to fight a virus.

    • @jasonackerman3303
      @jasonackerman3303 Рік тому +6

      +10

    • @randybaumery5090
      @randybaumery5090 11 місяців тому +1

      That started during the Bubonic plague

    • @jaymac7203
      @jaymac7203 10 місяців тому +1

      Very good lol

    • @ColinOfDaventry
      @ColinOfDaventry 6 місяців тому +1

      You have good taste, man.
      This was a great episode and not to mention the best Star Trek series.

  • @AlphonseZukor
    @AlphonseZukor 6 років тому +346

    This scene would have been better if it showed Picard sipping his brandy as she got vaporized.

    • @xandercage2388
      @xandercage2388 6 років тому +25

      Alphonse Zukor Tea.. Earl Gray.. Hot

    • @wileywilson
      @wileywilson 5 років тому +5

      +Alphonse Zukor. Tears of laughter. Funniest thing I've read all year. Thanks man.

    • @kendesjarlais7577
      @kendesjarlais7577 5 років тому

      lol awesome

    • @shadowkill546
      @shadowkill546 4 роки тому +6

      Or playing his flute

    • @iankamran
      @iankamran 4 роки тому +1

      Omg you are the actor playing the guy she was trying to kill!

  • @THESocialJusticeWarrior
    @THESocialJusticeWarrior 5 років тому +54

    Picard was directly in the line of fire on that last shot.

    • @FlamingLily
      @FlamingLily Рік тому +4

      imagine riker accidentally holds the trigger for a second too long, the blast flies straight through the disintegrating woman and into him

    • @alejandroIsaacCondat
      @alejandroIsaacCondat Рік тому +2

      Well guess he would become captain if that happens 😆

    • @Sovereign01
      @Sovereign01 Рік тому

      @@alejandroIsaacCondat That did happen at least twice, first in "Best of Both Worlds", and again in "Gambit" 😁 When Picard was assimilated and his death faked, respectively 😁

  • @brofenix
    @brofenix 3 роки тому +40

    Wow, that was a good scene imo. Riker was definitely portrayed as regretfully killing that woman, good acting.

    • @SobeCrunkMonster
      @SobeCrunkMonster Рік тому

      theres always someone to defend nonsense. im assuming that you also unironically love Todd Howard?

    • @grahamhill676
      @grahamhill676 11 місяців тому

      ​@@SobeCrunkMonsterhuh

  • @galaxytrio
    @galaxytrio 2 роки тому +33

    This was a well-acted and very affecting episode. Great guest stars, especially Yuta, whose death hurt.

    • @Pogol13
      @Pogol13 Рік тому +2

      Agreed! I’m currently rewatching the series and immediately came hear to watch this scene again! Very good episode! Lisa Wilcox was excellent! For a one episode character to have such an emotional impact on the audience… makes me wish this had been a multi-episode arc.

  • @Pulsar359
    @Pulsar359 3 роки тому +8

    Those settings sure escalate quickly: 1) Stun. 2) Stun with more pain. 3) De-atomize.

  • @StephenGillie
    @StephenGillie 5 років тому +99

    She confesses her sins so conveniently, allowing Riker to be Judge Dredd.

    • @lindarogers9406
      @lindarogers9406 4 роки тому +2

      Well, ever watch Perry Mason or Matlock or....(they all admit it)

    • @jmath24410
      @jmath24410 3 роки тому

      @@lindarogers9406 that's true. Luckily Matt lock always got someone who was innocent except for one person

    • @edwardwilliams6514
      @edwardwilliams6514 Рік тому

      RESPECT THE BADGE!! FEAR THE GUN!! DROKK IT!!

  • @STNeish
    @STNeish 4 роки тому +97

    Someone could have just grabbed her. Her lethal ability only has an effect on one particular clan. Remember, it's a very singleminded bug. Riker had NO cause to kill her.

    • @oddish4352
      @oddish4352 3 роки тому +11

      Or beamed her to the brig. Riker had just beamed in, so there were no shields to worry about.

    • @Boxanadu
      @Boxanadu 2 роки тому +4

      She was determined to kill him. The brig would not have been enough.

    • @STNeish
      @STNeish 2 роки тому +2

      @@Boxanadu How so? She is carrying a lethal disease, she's not superhuman.

    • @Boxanadu
      @Boxanadu 2 роки тому +4

      @@STNeish Remember how she charmed her way towards her target? She could charm her way again.

    • @johnstitt2615
      @johnstitt2615 2 роки тому

      Yes he did.

  • @Oct14cya
    @Oct14cya 2 роки тому +6

    Picard: Note to self: Don’t piss off Riker.

  • @poseidon5003
    @poseidon5003 3 роки тому +16

    She took a phaser hit on level 8! That will disintegrate normal humanoids. She's phaser resistant.

  • @namelessandsouless1
    @namelessandsouless1 Рік тому +14

    A perfect example of Riker doing his duty as Commander. Making the hard choices so the Captain doesn't have to.

  • @DarMokChannelSTMoments
    @DarMokChannelSTMoments  11 років тому +67

    Because she had been genetically altered, you would think that not only did this effect her non-ageing but also a highened resistence to any kind of physical assault. thats how I reasoned the storyline anyway.

    • @Xostriyad
      @Xostriyad 3 роки тому +3

      @Wonko The Sane heck could have done little things like there being a transporter inhibitor in the facility so instead of Riker beaming down he bursts into the room after being beamed outside of the inhibitor field... or she has a personal inhibitor field on her person...
      As a kid (and now) I assumed the stun settings weren't working because of the crazy genetic enhancing she had.

  • @creatip123
    @creatip123 3 роки тому +6

    After all that dialogue, Picard: explain to me why we need Troi on board??

  • @lucasmann6255
    @lucasmann6255 3 роки тому +5

    The crew kinda forgot that they can beam her out of there. LMAO

  • @oldtwinsna8347
    @oldtwinsna8347 4 роки тому +4

    Should've edited the scene to include this line when Riker starts to fire the first time:
    Picard: Picard to Enterprise.
    Data: Data here, Sir.
    Picard: Mr. Data, beam down some popcorn with butter, please.
    Data: Sir? We've been monitoring the situation, would it not better to beam the girl directly into a holding cell?
    Picard: Mr. Data! Carry out my orders.
    Data: Yes, Sir, will beam that popcorn down immediately.

  • @DantesonofSparda85
    @DantesonofSparda85 4 роки тому +17

    Damn, Riker hit her with a light stun, then a medium stun...then cranked it to setting 15- vaporization

    • @oddish4352
      @oddish4352 3 роки тому +3

      Actually, the second hit was on setting 10 or so. That's hot enough to blow a hole in a rhinoceros.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 3 роки тому

      That second shot was halfway up the dial. It was the heaviest stun the phaser had. If she could shrug that off, there was no choice but to make sure of her.

    • @momokochama1844
      @momokochama1844 3 роки тому +1

      @@hagamapama hm, according to memory alpha setting 8 (wich is the same as the maximum setting of the type 1 phaser btw) is vaporise. all settings from 9 upwards are for heavy alloys and structural materials.
      just so you know what hit her with that last salvo:
      Explosive/Disruption Effects - causes shielded matter to exhibit light mechanical fracturing damage. Approximately 650 cubic meters of rock are disintegrated per shot.

    • @annoraxgames777
      @annoraxgames777 3 роки тому +2

      @@hagamapama First shot was stun, second was on 8 (should have vaporized her, but didn't), third was on 16 (should have vaporized her and everything behind her up to a few dozen meters of rock).

  • @aperson22222
    @aperson22222 3 роки тому +9

    This is a great underrated TNG scene.

  • @killerdoritoWA
    @killerdoritoWA 2 роки тому +16

    For Riker, breaking up is literally hard to do.

    • @2008FORDF450V8
      @2008FORDF450V8 Рік тому

      Indeed but the Penske file says this is the worst episode so u agree with him

  • @tonys623
    @tonys623 5 років тому +30

    I remembered when this aired. I always thought her to be very attractive.

    • @lindarogers9406
      @lindarogers9406 4 роки тому +2

      well, duh...it fit the episode to have her so attractive, due ot her and Riker's, er, "affeection" for one another. Made it more difficult for him ot intervene in the end.

    • @theevilascotcompany9255
      @theevilascotcompany9255 3 роки тому +2

      @@lindarogers9406 To be honest, being physically attractive doesn't seem to matter much to Riker in that department. Or being a humanoid biped. Or being organic. Or in a solid state of matter.

  • @LittleMissLeared
    @LittleMissLeared 5 років тому +77

    Old phaser settings.
    1. Stun and knock them out so you can safely detain enemy.
    2. Kill.
    New phaser settings
    1. Make some noise and annoy enemy.
    2. Kill

  • @petergianakopoulos4926
    @petergianakopoulos4926 5 років тому +9

    I love how she confesses to everything.

  • @DinnerBells
    @DinnerBells 2 роки тому +2

    "Keep perfectly still, your life is in danger. Also, the phaser effects won't be seen if there's sufficient background movement."

  • @wesleymccurtain166
    @wesleymccurtain166 9 років тому +111

    I laughed hard whenever I realized that the Sovereign is also that mean female coach from Porky's.

    • @qetoun
      @qetoun 5 років тому +2

      Ballbraker?

    • @Ardenwolfe
      @Ardenwolfe 5 років тому +2

      Oh shit. LOL I totally didn't notice until you said so!

    • @NitpickingNerd
      @NitpickingNerd 5 років тому +2

      @@Ardenwolfe here's a TNG edit that exploited that fact: ua-cam.com/video/MQWvt-ASWqI/v-deo.html

    • @bobpage6597
      @bobpage6597 5 років тому +4

      "Now, Mr Carter I realise how unorthadox this is, but I believe its the only way to find that boy. That penis had a mole on it, I'd recognise that penis anywhere!"

    • @harryhoffer9804
      @harryhoffer9804 5 років тому +1

      no fuckin way hahahah

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K6 10 місяців тому +5

    I still remember watching this episode for the first time and this final scene was like a punch in the guts. You could feel the betrayal and regret just as much as RIker did. TNG had such absolutely amazing writing.

    • @jamaldominicbarr7379
      @jamaldominicbarr7379 6 місяців тому

      Its all ogre now, ogre with no survivors. Our beloved IPs are overrun by idiots, sycophants, morons, cultural Marxist, woke, anti-traditionalist, straight white male hating demons! The kind of losers who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag. Just look how they've reduced our pop culture into the lowest kind of unmentionable dreg imaginable! All that was once good and inspiring has turned to ash! The latest victim, Godzilla Monarch! What a demonic revolting show! Godzilla Minus One, a traditional movie with righteous family values, unlike that demonic Sodom and Gomorrah show, Monarch! Media from the West has fallen, overrun by demons!

  • @brucekaraus7330
    @brucekaraus7330 10 місяців тому +2

    I like how Uta, as she prepared for the last attempt, struck a pose not unlike a cartoon character about to run.

  • @Wolfspiderxl
    @Wolfspiderxl 10 років тому +72

    Very upsetting scene, on par with when Yeoman Thompson gets turned into a white polyhedra, then crushed to dust, in the Original Series 'By Any Other Name'; never got over that one.

    • @jpowell180
      @jpowell180 7 років тому +8

      Yeah, that used to always bug me as a kid....

    • @Aeroldoth3
      @Aeroldoth3 7 років тому +12

      She rolled a 1

    • @CR500R
      @CR500R 6 років тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/B78dZ39iSSY/v-deo.html

    • @stepheneinbinder2604
      @stepheneinbinder2604 6 років тому +9

      Except that Yeoman Thompson was good. Yuta turned out to be the villain. So the Thompson case was cold blooded murder; the Yuta case was defense, strange as it seems.

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 6 років тому +12

      Killing Yeoman Thompson (a cute young woman) instead of Lieutenant Shea (the large black man standing beside her) was obviously meant to subvert and shock audience expectations. It was the 1960s, it was national television, "family" television, and it was _Star Trek_ so it kinda promised to be an optimistically utopian fairy tale ...
      This scene was deliberately intended to be provocative. What if Thompson was instead shown standing alone? Her death would remain equally meaningless (she was just a guest star with a small role in a security redshirt) but it wouldn't have challenged the common social norms for the era, it wouldn't have upset as many people.

  • @thomascollins4325
    @thomascollins4325 Рік тому +4

    I remember when this episode first
    came out. This scene was pretty chilling.

  • @richardcuadra1094
    @richardcuadra1094 5 років тому +9

    That was an amazing seen you can tell that Johnson Frank's AKA Commander riker did not enjoy killing her but did his duty as a commanding officer

  • @archentity
    @archentity 9 років тому +21

    2:10 Picard actually looking like Charles Xavier from the 90s cartoon.

    • @jpowell180
      @jpowell180 7 років тому +5

      Yeah, he should totally play that role if they ever make a live action X-Men film....oh, wait... ;)

  • @oddish4352
    @oddish4352 3 роки тому +13

    Whatever they did to Yuta's cells was pretty intense. Near as I can figure, Riker's phaser was on 10 or 11 with the second shot... that's enough power to drop a rhino in its tracks. Yuta just shrugged it off and kept coming.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that's why they can't just tackle her or beam her away. She's a living weapon. There's no telling what strength or hidden weapons she might have to escape from a tight corner. It's like saying the same thing about Danar, with a bioweapon, NO, you can't just assume that normal tactics will work, and beaming her away would only delay the problem, not solve it.
      Chorgun's life is in danger for as long as Yuta is alive. If Riker can't talk her out of her vendetta then she has to die, or Riker might as well put the phaser to Chorgun's own head, set it to vaporize and pull the trigger.

    • @janreznak881
      @janreznak881 3 роки тому +1

      @@hagamapama Point is, you still try. I thought "the Starfleet way" would be to exhaust all other opportunities before going lethal. Apparently not.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 3 роки тому +3

      @@janreznak881 He did try. he gave her 2 chances she didn't need to get despite the fact that she was a deadly threat to Chorgun.
      He tried to talk her out of it but when the choice was between killling yuta or letting Chorgun die (and with him the chance to formalize a peace to end a civil war) he did what he had to do.

    • @matthewcaughey8898
      @matthewcaughey8898 10 місяців тому

      That’s enough power to melt through light armor plating with that second shot

    • @theiran
      @theiran 7 місяців тому

      ​@@janreznak881setting 1, 2, and 3 are light, medium, and heavy stun. Setting 4-8 are various levels of tissue damage. Setting 9-16 are used usually on nonliving matter.

  • @abrahamedelstein4806
    @abrahamedelstein4806 3 роки тому +3

    I mean, those phaser settings are kind of standard operating procedure in policing, once the threshold of lethal force is crossed, it's not half-assed, so you'll go from peppersray, taser, to mag-dump.

  • @HillslamsMirror
    @HillslamsMirror 5 років тому +20

    Me: "Yuta, Stop!"
    Yuta: "I must get to him"
    Me: * slathers self in jelly and steps in between *
    Yuta: "Let me at him!"
    * 1/2 hour of Yuta climbing slip slappery all over me *
    Me: *smiles"

  • @toddsmitts
    @toddsmitts 12 років тому +30

    It was totally unnecessary for him to kill her!

    • @daniel_sc1024
      @daniel_sc1024 2 роки тому +2

      Yes it was. It was written on the last page of the script. He had no choice.

  • @roberthlawekiii6731
    @roberthlawekiii6731 Рік тому +2

    His phaser was on maximum stun with the first shot. Any normal person would have been completely incapacitated and the second would have surely killed. He added three clicks; he didn't want to kill her, but he knew she would respond to no less, and so, we arrive at the final option. Annihilation.

  • @NYCamper62
    @NYCamper62 4 роки тому +25

    0:48 "It was 50 years ago..."
    1:23 "But on the day, a century ago..."
    Got it.

    • @TJBUSMC1973
      @TJBUSMC1973 4 роки тому +12

      NYCamper62
      The transformation happened 100 years ago. Her encounter with the other person was 50 years ago. No issues with timeline there.

  • @lkvideos7181
    @lkvideos7181 5 років тому +16

    Picard: "You know Number 1 .... you could have just kept stunning her until she was incapacitated ...."
    Riker: "I know" *licks phaser tip*
    Picard: o.Ô "....Number1!"
    Riker: "Oh .... yeah, sorry Captain. No withnesses" vaporizes Picard and everyone else*

    • @manco828
      @manco828 5 років тому

      LKVideos Riker is straight up gangsta!

    • @Aeroxima
      @Aeroxima 4 роки тому +1

      "Computer, load save.
      ...Oh shit, this isn't the holodeck!"

  • @mrivera0546
    @mrivera0546 3 роки тому +1

    Chorgan : "Commander, I am in your debt."
    Riker : ..... Looks away in utter disgust and contempt.

  • @sammencia7945
    @sammencia7945 2 роки тому +3

    Riker was written like Bond.
    A player, but he cared for all of the women.
    He'll need that shoreleave.

  • @SVSky
    @SVSky Рік тому +7

    Riker's got a lot of confidence in his aim with Picard directly in the line of fire. "Know your target and what's behind it"

    • @nopejoeandangie
      @nopejoeandangie 5 місяців тому

      yeah I'm glad phasers at full blast never go through a target and just conveniently vaporize only the clothes and biomatter of the first thing they touch!

  • @tomrodgers6629
    @tomrodgers6629 2 роки тому +6

    Why did they not remove the target from the room? Riker murdered that woman. Picard should have responded Dam Will WTF. The only time a f-bomb would be justified in star trek.

  • @JuricksEnterprise
    @JuricksEnterprise 3 роки тому +1

    Riker: "So much for that lousy relationship, how where's that damn Deanna!!"

  • @picknroll8221
    @picknroll8221 Рік тому +1

    "You're wrong, Chorgon...We've agreed to watch an awesome UA-cam clip together."

  • @BitVyper
    @BitVyper 4 роки тому +4

    They don't have handcuffs in the future and Riker's knowledge of Ambojitsu renders him about as proficient in unarmed combat as a toddler. He had no choice

  • @stddgv11
    @stddgv11 5 років тому +13

    OMG!! It's ballbreaker from Porky's!
    Damn, I'm old.

    • @AMC2283
      @AMC2283 5 років тому +3

      5 Lornak in the nude? A security line up, so that you can scan...his tallywacker?

    • @broann4138
      @broann4138 4 місяці тому

      The dude who played Tommy in Porky's appeared in Season 1

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 10 місяців тому +2

    Once again you've made me go from here to watch the full episode for myself on Paramount+/Prime lol

  • @ekujj13
    @ekujj13 11 місяців тому +1

    “Commander, should we beam Uta directly to the Brig?” “No no no, I want to try out this Varon T disruptor I borrowed from Mr. Data.”

  • @NightRunner417
    @NightRunner417 4 роки тому +3

    "Commander, I am in your debt!"
    "I know. I need a favor from you, and then we can call the debt honored."
    "Anything! Name your favor and I will consider it done!"
    ...
    "It's been a shitty day. Follow me to the airlock."

  • @d.a.baracus1438
    @d.a.baracus1438 3 роки тому +11

    Yuta was clearly suffering more damage & slowing down each time Riker increased the phaser settings… I’m not sure why he decided to crank it up 4 levels & completely disintegrate her when he probably could’ve just incapacitated her by raising just 1 or 2 levels. Heck, he probably could’ve stopped her cold just by hitting multiple times on the lower setting… Kinda makes me think Riker just wanted to kill her.

  • @jeffnowell8793
    @jeffnowell8793 10 місяців тому +2

    Jesus, this episode was emotionally crushing, especially for Riker who had befriended Yuta and was developing a romantic interest with her, only to vaporize her in the end.😢

  • @Barnstormer1969
    @Barnstormer1969 4 роки тому +1

    That woman getting zapped is Lisa Wilcox. She was in the fourth and fifth 'Nightmare on Elm Street' films. Her character survived both films. Ironically, did not survive this episode. She talked about her experience in an interview with Svengoolie.

  • @benjaminA.stantonpun
    @benjaminA.stantonpun Рік тому +3

    I read in a Star Trek magazine that she was a uniquely tough humanoid. The first setting was stun. The second setting was kill. The third setting was maximum. Some might say that Will vaporized either Michelle Myers or Jessica Vorhees. 😯

  • @aaronbruceladner1983
    @aaronbruceladner1983 3 роки тому +4

    3:04, Riker's Phaser Has the "Omega" Effect, Just Like Darkseid's Red Eyes

  • @jamesbracy2368
    @jamesbracy2368 Рік тому +1

    Chorgon> You’ll never leave this ship alive
    Riker> hold my beer

  • @PaiSAMSEN
    @PaiSAMSEN 5 місяців тому +1

    "Chorgan, keep perfectly still. Composite shot is harder when the background is moving."

  • @trevortaylor5501
    @trevortaylor5501 Рік тому +3

    Never succumb to revenge. One of the best lessons to learn.

  • @CaptainSnackbar
    @CaptainSnackbar 4 роки тому +5

    3 minute death scene that has some poetic death, while 5 episodes of Star Trek Picard that has people dying left and right and you dont give a shit about it.

    • @gsofficial
      @gsofficial 4 роки тому +1

      i can't decide whether it'd be faster to list all the things Picard got wrong, or all the things they got right. in the first case, you'd be here listing things forever, but in the second case, you'd be here forever trying to think of one single thing they did right.

    • @CaptainSnackbar
      @CaptainSnackbar 4 роки тому

      @@gsofficial or i'd be listening to war hammer 40k audiobooks. time well spent

  • @sedawk
    @sedawk 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty good aim for shooting from the hip. Just a little to right and Picard would have been toast.

  • @351cleavland
    @351cleavland 4 роки тому +27

    One time I was babysitting and I had to shoo the kid away from the cookies in the cupboard. He kept going back. So instead of putting the cookies out of reach I shot him. ...
    Those cookies had to be saved the only way I could!

    • @oddish4352
      @oddish4352 3 роки тому +3

      That's economically unsound. Everyone knows that in a situation like that, you shoot for the leg. A deceased child doesn't need a babysitter. But a kid with one leg still does.

  • @ecroft1000
    @ecroft1000 8 років тому +25

    Riker comes across as cold in this, falls for her, kills her and shrugs it off as if, well il get another one later

    • @Smeginator
      @Smeginator 7 років тому +19

      At the end of the episode, I always got the feeling that he was absolutely devastated, but he was still on duty, so he had to control it, which he was, but just barely

    • @jpowell180
      @jpowell180 7 років тому +6

      He definitely did not have to kill her - that was just messed up.

    • @hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite
      @hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite 5 років тому +1

      Erica Croft - notice how Riker kept on increasing the phaser stun setting to the point where the phaser stun setting is so high that, the phaser stun setting will KILL, VAPORIZE, etc you, even though the first setting on the phaser stun setting was more than capable of stopping everyone.

  • @pinkiepie8848
    @pinkiepie8848 10 років тому +31

    Throughout the whole scene, Picard is just sitting in the background. Riker vaporizes the woman... and Picard just sits in the background. Man has a heart of steel.

    • @savagetv6460
      @savagetv6460 8 років тому +9

      Lawful neutral bitch! Best alignment

    • @jpowell180
      @jpowell180 7 років тому +5

      Heart of ice.
      I can imagine Picard thinking, "If Will kills here, it will make things go much more smoothly, and I can get back to my hot cup of Earl Grey all the sooner...."

    • @Aeroldoth3
      @Aeroldoth3 7 років тому +1

      +Dex
      ROFL loved your comment!

    • @emanuelharrison3285
      @emanuelharrison3285 7 років тому +3

      dude was aborg. shit doesnt phase him anymore!

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 6 років тому +2

      Precisely. When a law harms someone, Picard chooses to protect that individual rather than adhere to the letter of the law.

  • @pmalone4
    @pmalone4 Рік тому +1

    To anyone saying he didn't have to vaporize her, keep in mind that he used the same blast on her the first time as he did that guy in the beginning. She shrugged it off, and even a higher setting that would normally knock someone out cold or possible kill them just winded her. They didn't know the full extent of what her alterations made her capable of. All they knew is that she carried a disease that killed on touch, her aging was slowed and she was heavily resistant to phaser fire. The first shot she took was meant to knock her out without killing her, the second to kill her but keep her body intact and the third to vaporize. Because the alterations she underwent left too many unknowns and normal precautions might have been useless, Riker was justified in vaporizing her.

  • @Pow3llMorgan
    @Pow3llMorgan 5 років тому +2

    With Will Riker, there's no setting between mild discomfort and complete vaporization.

    • @Zamolxes77
      @Zamolxes77 4 роки тому

      The beard has spoken !

  • @hudsonball4702
    @hudsonball4702 4 роки тому +7

    One of the strongest moments in TNG IMO.
    That said if the virus she carries to kill is in her DNA why didn't she just spit on the guy if Riker was phaser blocking her?

  • @emailalpha6437
    @emailalpha6437 5 років тому +15

    Watching this as a child i never understood why Riker didnt keep phaser on stun as it seemed to do the job just fine....as an adult, i have exactly the same question

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 2 роки тому +2

      Couldn't be sure it would continue doing the job, and she was determined. And what if he missed, or hit her arm?

    • @jkrasney1
      @jkrasney1 Рік тому +1

      Seemingly, Yuta's body adjusted, similar to that of the Borg. As a result, each forward movement by Yuta necessitated increased phaser power.

  • @GGGritzer
    @GGGritzer 10 місяців тому +1

    RIP Stephen Lee. Superb in everything you did..............

  • @Orchestration1983
    @Orchestration1983 4 роки тому +2

    Picard quickly takes his Comms Badge and slaps in on the guy from an 80’s rock band, activating it at the same time.
    “Transporter room, emergency transport, lock onto my signal and beam me aboard immediately!” he orders.
    In a familiar blue glow and a “phooo-woosh” 80’s man is transported aboard the Enterprise.
    Assassin Lady “Noooo! Vengeance was too be mine!” she screams in rage as she lunges at Will!
    Will fires his phaser, she quickly shrugs it of and lunges again. Will fires again, this time no effect! He quickly increases the setting to kill and fires! She is stunned again but quickly recovers, with no choice will puts the phaser to maximum! “That last setting was on kill, now it’s on maximum! Don’t make me do this Assassin Lady!”.
    With a sad look in her eye, tear rolling down her cheek “I have no choice Will!” she lunges at him one last time, she had no intention of killing Will but with everything now taken from her, with all the pain in her life, she just wanted it to finally end.
    With no choice left, Will had to fire in self defence. The bright red glow erupted from the end of the phaser, striking the girl! After a brief muffled scream and brilliant and brutal red glow nothing remained of the girl! She was gone!

  • @Mlogan11
    @Mlogan11 6 років тому +6

    This scene opens the door to several anomalies- 1) Picard says/does nothing, 2) The would be victim sees the threat yet doesn't leave the table, 3) Extended stun would have worked, 4) They could have beamed her or the victim away, problem solved. =)
    If disintegration guns are ever invented, we are all so screwed- forget about solving those crimes.

    • @Pierreandandre
      @Pierreandandre 6 років тому

      If those guns are ever invented, imagine the type of technology that goes into them. They would be GPS tracked and everything. There would be no hiding anything. Everything would be logged and reported automatically in some way. Sure sure, "jailbreaking/hacking" the devices. I'm sure there would be a few cases of that happening here and there, but I doubt there would be as many. Much in the same there are cases of unsolved crimes with today's technology. There may always be a way to evade here and there occasionally, but there will always be a way to track and solve more often than not.

    • @evknucklehead
      @evknucklehead 6 років тому

      There's also the fact that it doesn't completely eliminate every trace of the target. They still leave trace amounts of residual energy mixed with a few remnants of organic matter, as seen when Picard went missing during an undercover mission to track down some artifact thieves. Granted, he wasn't actually hit by a phaser at that point, but the same principles apply.

    • @Makorze
      @Makorze 5 років тому

      I'm also sure that all phasers have a unique signature as there have been various episodes when they have been able to recognise certain weapons even when all traces of them are gonna via the radiation and other effects of that nature they leave behind. They may not be able to match a specific phaser but can identify its make and model.

  • @NephritduGrey
    @NephritduGrey 6 років тому +18

    Well, easier, better solution to the problem. Riker fires at the chick at the second to last setting which seems to produce pain anyway and she seems to be limited that way. Picard grabs the dude or dude increases the distance on his own towards Riker, outside the firing arc. "Riker to Enterprise two to beam up" and problem solved. In case they couldn't transport her.
    Or even easier, Riker beams down activates his communicator, says beam up my signal, throws his to the dude, dude get beamed up and then people talk it out like adults.

  • @jimbates955
    @jimbates955 Рік тому +1

    “On the plains of hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions who at the dawn of victory lay down to rest, and in resting died.”
    Adlai Stevenson

  • @CaptainPositron
    @CaptainPositron 7 років тому +8

    I guess Riker doesn't get many opportunity to play with the disintegration setting. Otherwise he could've just ran over and restrained her.

    • @TheBigExclusive
      @TheBigExclusive 5 років тому +1

      Well really don't know what kind of hidden powers she has. Trying to get up close physically restrain her is very unwise. Getting too close might be a method of her killing you. Better to use caution.

    • @pokemaster123ism
      @pokemaster123ism 5 років тому +3

      TheBigExclusive yeah, but they said that the virus she was using was specifically tailored to only kill the Lornak tribe members. It wouldn’t affect Riker or Picard

  • @peternall6566
    @peternall6566 4 роки тому +5

    I think the guy sat down on the right looks more like Johnny Vegas than STING.

  • @VoltesWithElias
    @VoltesWithElias 4 роки тому +4

    What an excellent show. Just excellent.

    • @DarMokChannelSTMoments
      @DarMokChannelSTMoments  4 роки тому +1

      This is a great episode and still has people talking about the decision made by Riker even today after 30 years.

  • @epiendless1128
    @epiendless1128 6 років тому +2

    Granted there were non-lethal ways to handle this.
    But once we reached the point where Yuta was lunging at Chorgon, vaporising her was the best option because, stunned or dead, her presumably still-lethal-to-the-touch corpse would have fallen on Chorgan and killed him.

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames 2 роки тому +2

    Great episode and the way Riker figures her out and tries to get to her, both in his quarters and here, are great. If the writers had just let it end more logically, with beaming her to the Brig, Picard tackling her, or just Riker continually stunning her, the episode could have ended on a much higher note.

    • @LandersWorkshop
      @LandersWorkshop 2 роки тому +1

      That would have been too lame and lightweight though, this showed Star Trek wasn't all twee humdrum dramatics.

  • @DarrenH001
    @DarrenH001 5 років тому +10

    Shooting to kill with his unflinching captain close to the line of fire. Yikes.

    • @Bosc715
      @Bosc715 3 роки тому +2

      Not since dAta and laforge were conducting laser experiments near the warp core have I seen something so silly

  • @vFavs
    @vFavs 11 років тому +7

    I remember the first time i saw this ep. I never understood why he killed her. 1. He could have kept stunning her. 2. The guy she was going after could have gotten out of his chair and taken cover. 3. And Riker could have had her beamed directly into a holding cell. 4. Or instead of all of that, she could have kept her mouth shut and not given away the truth of her situation to her sworn enemy.
    This ep gets +5 for drama, but -4 for common sense.

  • @mezanine10
    @mezanine10 Рік тому +1

    Picard was shitting his pants on that last shot. He's lucky Riker didn't miss. Worf would have.

  • @NelsonClick
    @NelsonClick 5 років тому +2

    This "clan" social structure was very much a part of many cultures through history. Lasted centuries. Remnants and vestiges of this mentality are still evident today. This episode is a "what if" it never went away.

  • @darkguardian1314
    @darkguardian1314 4 роки тому +13

    You know Picard or any other guard not effected could have restrain and pulled her back and come between the two to act as a block.
    At the same time Riker can continue using heavy stun on her.🤔
    Powerful scene, but unnecessary and avoidable.

    • @azraelknightquest5754
      @azraelknightquest5754 2 роки тому +2

      You willing to bet YOUR life that she doesn't have other lethal abilities that have to been scanned or found out yet? Or someone else's?

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 2 роки тому +1

      @@azraelknightquest5754 yeah, plus we know she was strong enough to get through two stun settings. Just physically alone, she might be able to just snap their necks.

    • @Pogol13
      @Pogol13 Рік тому +1

      @@szahmad2416 that second shot was beyond a stun setting. That was a kill setting and it only momentarily inconvenienced her. You’re no doubt correct in assuming she could have probably snapped Riker or anyone else in that room in two if she wanted.

  • @Xerock
    @Xerock 2 роки тому +3

    After vaporizing Yuta, Riker decides to take a moment of quiet contemplation while standing in the stench of his charbroiled girlfriend

  • @brookhouse3041
    @brookhouse3041 5 років тому +1

    Dang i forgot that girl Yuta. I sympathize with her desire for vengeance.

  • @robtierney5653
    @robtierney5653 9 місяців тому

    Greatest plot device in sci-fi shows. When the stun setting works, or when it doesn't.

  • @girlgarde
    @girlgarde Рік тому +3

    How did Yuta and the other surviving Trilesta clan members get a hold of advanced medical tech to turn Yuta into a super being?

  • @jakep1979
    @jakep1979 9 років тому +15

    Riker should have said "Your in my debt?! well how about you take a shower once in a while, you stink!!"

  • @vikingfortiesfaeroes
    @vikingfortiesfaeroes 11 років тому

    Great series of videos you've made here

  • @darthvat0
    @darthvat0 2 роки тому +1

    Don't try it Anakin, I have phasers set to from "Ouch" to "AAAah!"