I love the detail of them using two torpedoes on the first cube, and then realizing they only need one when they blow up the second. it's like 'oh that was a waste, just use one this time'
well Tuvok was new to using them and after all and Voyagers other weapons couldn't match that level of fire power. not even close they barely scratched a borg vessel in comparison
I always thought the chroniton torpedoes needed the transphasic proc and the transphasics should just have extra crtd like antiproton energy weapons do
@@Todd.P It's a good thing that many of the iconic Villain Actors/Actresses are usually very helpful, friendly, and usually very nice people at heart....
It almost seems like multiple actresses are used to portray multiple Borg Queens ... wouldn't multiple Queens sharing the Collective be an interesting idea ...
The science behind Transphasic torpedos is that they ignore shields and hit the target over and over again in different phase values. The power from that much phasic interference obliterates the target. These weapons are very powerful
I thought they entered subspace for a brief instant to bypass any shields and detonate inside the target... an idea subsequently "borrowed" by Stargate:SG1 for fighting Anubis' mothership.
@@1978rharris Replicating ablative armor on the fly makes one wonder why it was never done before. Or could it be more than that. Maybe the particle synthesis technology that Arturis spoke of, which I think would be programmable matter.
Not really bad idea, the borg were curious about armor and probably wouldn't try to destroy the ship but only weaken it for capture. If they started blasting immediately, borg would scramble what they could right away to protect the gate from something resembling the 8472 species or whatever its called, maybe even use cubes to ram it. The last remaining is clearly not going to do much and ramming attempt is easily countered by single torpedo, it was good call to pull back and quite possibly shadow voyager to not lose it.
I think Janeway hoped the Borg would not adapt to the armor so quickly. She wanted to avoid a massacre; there are hundreds of thousands of drones on each cube after all. Drones like Seven of Nine used to be one. In the beginning the armor was very effective and it seemed, the Voyager could simply fly through the cross-fire to its destination. But then the Borg found a way to adapt and started blasting the armor to bits. That's when she gave the order to fire.
"Troll-face" didn't exist in _Star Trek,_ because the Internet wasn't invented. History for _Star Trek_ begins deviating from real history around the 1980s. Earth was in the tribal-like Eugenics Wars in the early-1990s, and then World War III in the 2050s. This also means the 'digital age'- cell phones, solar power, compact discs, electric cars, desktop computers- never got their chance to blossom and become mainstream, so we effectively got stuck with magnetic tapes, walkie-talkies and vinyl records (i.e. physical media) _well into_ the 2000s. The reason _Star Trek_ technology seems so backwards to us now is _not just_ because Hollywood left it behind (i.e. the -nutrek- regime), but because _many_ of the technologies that we have today didn't evolve the same way in their timeline.
@@joecolman1968 ...And the same when Archer and T'pol went back in time to 2003, and the world _wasn't_ prepping for WWIII; I get it, I get it, I get it. And that's one of the problems with the latter years of the Rick Berman Era- they _increasingly_ had difficulty behind-the-camera justifying how the world hadn't blown itself up yet IRL, yet _Star Trek's_ timeline already had at that point. Ideally, the Eugenics Wars had already ended by the early-2000s (Khan's mysterious disappearance in 1996 signaled the end of that), and there was an socioeconomic depression as a result (visited by Sisko and Bashir in a two-parter in _DS9_ ), and then WWIII happens in the 2050s. The problem is, when they made _ENT-_ which preceeded _TOS-_ the show had to justify looking like a hybrid of both 1960s tech and early-2000s tech; something which they readily admitted many times they struggled with. The best solution is for Trekies to selectively disregard certain details, and then say that events played out differently, yet WWIII hadn't happened yet. Also, it can be said that- in my original post- technology in _Star Trek_ developed at a different rate than IRL, which explains why they use recorder tapes that are _not_ magnetic strips.
Realistically the Borg queen would have had a few cubes do suicide runs at Voyager simply because the mass of the cube is so much greater than Voyager. It might have actually deterred them from going further into the nebula towards the transport hub.
Nope, they wouldn't ram it cause they were curious about armor to assimilate it. They would probably go suicide running if voyager destroyed every cube right away.
Yep - and in which case, it could in theory be fired at the death star and pass through straight to the center, re-emerge and detonate right at the reactor core.
Braindead Lincoln The warhead technology of the torpedoes was also revealed in the novel. It is based on generating a destructive subspace compression pulse. Upon detonation the torpedo delivers the pulse in an asymmetric superposition of multiple phase states. Shields can only block one subcomponent of the pulse. The other subcomponents deliver the majority of the pulse to the target. Every torpedo has a different transphasic configuration, generated randomly by a dissonant feedback effect to prevent the Borg from predicting the configuration of the phase states.
Just what is needed for the Borg!! Tho, When the older Janeway is talking to the queen there is talk of the Borg eventually adapting. "but not before Voyager can do a lot of damage". I want to know how they could adapt.
@@MrTmax74 They couldn't. Even if they adapted to one phase variance. There are millions more. There is no way the Borg would have been able to adapt to them
Just one addendum, with Seven's help Starfleet should be able to find how to isolate each Borg ship from the Collective, then destroy it, so the Collective can't adapt to their new methods.
maybe that unknown effect that caused the destruction of Romulus in Kelvin timeline was some kind of test of an anti-borg planetary cleansing weapon???
+Turbo Pokey No worries. But yeah, that's an interesting idea that the Hobus Star supernova that destroyed Romulus might have been an anti Borg weapon gone awry.
They won't start sweetie has had several chances to annihilate the Borg and they didn't because of "morals" the enterprise-d developed a computer virus that would cause the board to send self destruct codes to the entire fleet but they decided that it was wrong.
"Looks to me like those explosions are triggered by the torpedo detonating inside the cube. They're certainly not detonating on the outside!" Transphasic
Admiral Janeway herself stated the Borg would adapt in time. She basically gave the collective ludicrously advanced armour and weapons tech to get Voyager home. Imagine a cube decked out with this stuff?
@fishbaitx yes but if voyager had gone through first time like admiral J wanted, that never would have been necessary, and the fully functioning collective would have eventually adapted her weapons and armour
@@joecolman1968 coulda shoulda woulda. If she went through the first time like the admiral wanted, she would have been back in the alpha quadrant with the collective still scratching their heads. Since they got all that tech due to admiral janeways shuttle being intentionally near the collective as an on-purpose sacrificial piece to infect the collective.
Just so you know, I think the Ablative Generators were designed using Particle Synthesis, the same technology the Dauntless used in the episode "Hope and Fear". They did mention the Voyager invented Ablative Generators so it makes sense they looked over the information from the Dauntless and learnt how to reverse-engineer it. Voyager was exceptional a reverse engineering alien tech, they did it with both Borg tech and Quantum Slipstream (Even though QSD didn't work correctly).
This goes against what Doc Brown said in Back to the Future when he warns Marty about running into your other self from another time period Janeway runs into her older self and they kill borg ships. Old Doc Brown were to see this he'd be speechless But I love the episode anyway
I used to referee u14 Soccer matches in Modesto Ca. Early 2000's. I'm still shocked by the parents behavior from then. I'll never officiate another sporting event as long as I live...
When two torpedoes could have won the battle of Wolf 359 and another two could have prevented the plots of First Contact and that one Enterprise episode from the Archer era... However, I guess the Borg would adapt soon.
As much as a lot of people bash Voyager, particularly for the finale, I must say I feel like this scene is quite legendary within the franchise. The idea that you can just tech up to a point where you can literally magic up unthinkable weapons just using the right ingredients and method is like forbidden magic- a pretty cool idea in my opinion. However I can't help but feel there is a high dose of plot armour at play here too- for a species as vast as the Borg, I don't think retreating would have been their response to this- quite the opposite. Especially if they were able to detect that they were having an effect on Voyager's armour, they'd throw everything they had at it until it worked.
Considering the Star wars universe uses Lasers and the shields do not even protect them from those, I'd say the Imperial fleet would be close to helpless against any ship from star trek. The only shield we've ever seen in star wars that a ship couldn't fly right through was the giant moon based shield on Endor
@@kdrapertrucker Yup. I wonder in that regard (especially since SW "shields" don't protect from physical impacts most of the time) how much damage a photon or quantum torpedo could do.
This show was running on autopilot for so long like a shambling zombie, then at the end they just said "fuck it, just get them back home and it doesn't matter how ridiculous or contrived we make it!"
It's probably a scenario where someone has to scroll through a long dropdown menu of reconfiguration choices--hopefully in some sort of easily-recognizable order. And when something new pops up, some programmer adds the new choice to the menu and forgets to escape a line in the programming, resulting in the console exploding.
Was fun playing Klingon Academy with the "Endgame" Voyager mod. Once took on a fleet of Negh'Vahr, Vorcha, D-7s and Birds of Prey. Just wrecked them with transphasic torpedos.
Why not just fire torpedoes like crazy as soon as you entered their sensor range? Oh well. As soon as the Borg were "looking for ways to adapt to your armor" you should have been firing those torps.
I totally agree. It doesn't make any sense to give an enemy time/chance to fight back. Voyager got close to the transwarp network, and instead going through it (anyway), they turned back, giving the Borg time to react. That's why the second time Voyager got here, their amor and weapons were far less effective. Even when the Borg didn't assimilate Admiral Janeway, I believe that the Borg could adapt very soon.
Because voyager would run out of torpedoes before the borg ran out of ships. The borg would have shared their sensor data across the entire collective. It wouldn't matter how many ships you destroyed in the here and now, Borg 1000 lightyears away would be working on the problem
Borg Collective : (internal comms) the pattern of Voyager indicates 2-dimensional thinking. They lost 6dof freedo? No, they just engaged defensive Patten Alpha 1 ‘Janeway’s done give a drone’. Withdraw.
Wouldnt the queen just order the cubes to smash into voyager and then harvest the technology after? Even if none survived the explosion, the threat is eliminated.
Not once in these comments did i see mentioned that this is basically old technology. These torpedoes are using the same tech that was used with the shield development on the Pegasus. That Enterprise D used to escape an asteroid. They was also an Episode whete Dr Beverly Crusher used transphasic shielding to encroach the cronussphere of a sun to destroy a borg ship. Voyager is full of sloppy writing that was its biggest problem. The only real future tech is the armour used but that is only a evolution od the blade armour used on the Defiant.
To stop Voyager one of the Cubes, which has way more mass, should've sacrificed itself and just kamikaze collided into Voyager. New ablative armor or not isn't going to protect Voyager from that!!!
plot reasons. Also its future tech so... ( we shoud seen it in discovery in the 32th centruy i guess its a missed opportunity. also prob too powerful deus ex machina XD)
Queen's reaction to ship armor: "Hmmm...interesting."
Queen's reaction to torpedos:
"Ok..., that's new!"
Queen's thought to ship armor: we will assimilate this
Queen's thought to torpedoes: Oh heck no, retreat!
:-D
She looked emotionally distraught by the torpedos
I love the detail of them using two torpedoes on the first cube, and then realizing they only need one when they blow up the second. it's like 'oh that was a waste, just use one this time'
well Tuvok was new to using them and after all and Voyagers other weapons couldn't match that level of fire power. not even close they barely scratched a borg vessel in comparison
I wish Transphasic Torpedoes were that powerful in Star Trek Online, especially in the Elite missions.
Get a FBP and Some Entropic Rider and you are done
I always thought the chroniton torpedoes needed the transphasic proc and the transphasics should just have extra crtd like antiproton energy weapons do
D2SProductions yeah even with the Borg killing tranphasics it takes about of them to kill a cube
D2SProductions Agreed!
Sadly the dev's got it wrong with weapon procs.
@Wolf No More True. They blast through shields and do some damage still.
Loved that they got Alice Krige to reprise the Borg Queen role for this series finale!
I got her autograph at a convention in Tampa. Very nice lady!
@@Todd.P It's a good thing that many of the iconic Villain Actors/Actresses are usually very helpful, friendly, and usually very nice people at heart....
having her for the finale was a great catch indeed.
It almost seems like multiple actresses are used to portray multiple Borg Queens ... wouldn't multiple Queens sharing the Collective be an interesting idea ...
Admiral Janeway should have brought the Photonic Cannon too. Come on. We all know it’s real.
How about… The Death Ray…?
The science behind Transphasic torpedos is that they ignore shields and hit the target over and over again in different phase values. The power from that much phasic interference obliterates the target. These weapons are very powerful
I thought they entered subspace for a brief instant to bypass any shields and detonate inside the target... an idea subsequently "borrowed" by Stargate:SG1 for fighting Anubis' mothership.
@@TsutomuTomutsu At first, then it hits in different phasic values
The science behind it is a fancy name for ARMOR PIERCING AND SHIELD PIERCING... nothing more...
“Bridge to engineering, deploy plot armor”
Yes Ma'am 😏
Lol
The armor deployment over the nacelles makes sense, that area was always so unprotected.
But not how they deployed. Seemed holographic to me.
@@tilasole3252a form of advanced replicator technology
@@1978rharris Replicating ablative armor on the fly makes one wonder why it was never done before. Or could it be more than that. Maybe the particle synthesis technology that Arturis spoke of, which I think would be programmable matter.
@@SiXiam ablative armour is probably too complex for replicators to replicate
Attack Pattern Alpha 1 = continue going slowly in a straight line and fire one torpedo out of the rear of the ship.....revolutionary....
It's even easier than listing slightly to the left!
Just bank lazily to the left..."man, this guy's got some moves!"
@@broncoguy4862 “They’ve adapted!”
Well that is attack pattern alpha. That's one, genius. Why would alpha be something fancy?
Attack pattern alpha 1 = direct attack. It has always been that.
Literal plot armor
Naah, Voyager was already equipped with that 😂
Extra plot armour! Plus Transplotic torpedoes
Borg Queen Ackbar: We can't repel firepower of that magnitude!!!
Medalion LOL!
I see what you did there.
It's a trap!!
@@majorhemroid Perhaps they should take evasive action. Indeed.
"Let's let them have the first few dozen shots at us, just to be polite."
Not really bad idea, the borg were curious about armor and probably wouldn't try to destroy the ship but only weaken it for capture.
If they started blasting immediately, borg would scramble what they could right away to protect the gate from something resembling the 8472 species or whatever its called, maybe even use cubes to ram it.
The last remaining is clearly not going to do much and ramming attempt is easily countered by single torpedo, it was good call to pull back and quite possibly shadow voyager to not lose it.
I think Janeway hoped the Borg would not adapt to the armor so quickly. She wanted to avoid a massacre; there are hundreds of thousands of drones on each cube after all. Drones like Seven of Nine used to be one.
In the beginning the armor was very effective and it seemed, the Voyager could simply fly through the cross-fire to its destination. But then the Borg found a way to adapt and started blasting the armor to bits. That's when she gave the order to fire.
I'm pleased they did this excellent ending to Voyager. It makes sense that Janeway would go back in time and help them get home.
Everyone: "You can't do that, that's illegal, it violates the Temporal Prime Directive!"
Janeway: "Hold my coffee, black!"
I so love it when the borg are helpless in defending themselves.
Why didn't the Voyager crew just paint a giant trollface on the hull too?
Paris would of but Janeway would have said no
Memes are racist. Supposedly. 😂
"Troll-face" didn't exist in _Star Trek,_ because the Internet wasn't invented. History for _Star Trek_ begins deviating from real history around the 1980s. Earth was in the tribal-like Eugenics Wars in the early-1990s, and then World War III in the 2050s.
This also means the 'digital age'- cell phones, solar power, compact discs, electric cars, desktop computers- never got their chance to blossom and become mainstream, so we effectively got stuck with magnetic tapes, walkie-talkies and vinyl records (i.e. physical media) _well into_ the 2000s.
The reason _Star Trek_ technology seems so backwards to us now is _not just_ because Hollywood left it behind (i.e. the -nutrek- regime), but because _many_ of the technologies that we have today didn't evolve the same way in their timeline.
@@EVAUnit4Aproblem is that when Voyager went back in time to 1996 it was exactly like it was in the real world
@@joecolman1968
...And the same when Archer and T'pol went back in time to 2003, and the world _wasn't_ prepping for WWIII; I get it, I get it, I get it.
And that's one of the problems with the latter years of the Rick Berman Era- they _increasingly_ had difficulty behind-the-camera justifying how the world hadn't blown itself up yet IRL, yet _Star Trek's_ timeline already had at that point.
Ideally, the Eugenics Wars had already ended by the early-2000s (Khan's mysterious disappearance in 1996 signaled the end of that), and there was an socioeconomic depression as a result (visited by Sisko and Bashir in a two-parter in _DS9_ ), and then WWIII happens in the 2050s.
The problem is, when they made _ENT-_ which preceeded _TOS-_ the show had to justify looking like a hybrid of both 1960s tech and early-2000s tech; something which they readily admitted many times they struggled with.
The best solution is for Trekies to selectively disregard certain details, and then say that events played out differently, yet WWIII hadn't happened yet. Also, it can be said that- in my original post- technology in _Star Trek_ developed at a different rate than IRL, which explains why they use recorder tapes that are _not_ magnetic strips.
1:36 Borg on 3rd cube: "fu** this. Peace out!"
0:18 - The look on her face is priceless.
Realistically the Borg queen would have had a few cubes do suicide runs at Voyager simply because the mass of the cube is so much greater than Voyager. It might have actually deterred them from going further into the nebula towards the transport hub.
Nope, they wouldn't ram it cause they were curious about armor to assimilate it.
They would probably go suicide running if voyager destroyed every cube right away.
The torpedo is shifting in and out from existence, that lets it pass shields and armor and even solid matter ?
Yep - and in which case, it could in theory be fired at the death star and pass through straight to the center, re-emerge and detonate right at the reactor core.
Braindead Lincoln
The warhead technology of the torpedoes was also revealed in the novel. It is based on generating a destructive subspace compression pulse. Upon detonation the torpedo delivers the pulse in an asymmetric superposition of multiple phase states. Shields can only block one subcomponent of the pulse. The other subcomponents deliver the majority of the pulse to the target. Every torpedo has a different transphasic configuration, generated randomly by a dissonant feedback effect to prevent the Borg from predicting the configuration of the phase states.
+Jimmie “Mr48GOAT” Johnson Im sure normal quantum torpedoes would be enough to straight up damage the death star.
Just what is needed for the Borg!! Tho, When the older Janeway is talking to the queen there is talk of the Borg eventually adapting. "but not before Voyager can do a lot of damage". I want to know how they could adapt.
@@MrTmax74 They couldn't. Even if they adapted to one phase variance. There are millions more. There is no way the Borg would have been able to adapt to them
Just one addendum, with Seven's help Starfleet should be able to find how to isolate each Borg ship from the Collective, then destroy it, so the Collective can't adapt to their new methods.
maybe that unknown effect that caused the destruction of Romulus in Kelvin timeline was some kind of test of an anti-borg planetary cleansing weapon???
+Turbo Pokey Actually the destruction of Romulus occurred in the Prime timeline, but interesting theory.
Jason Gerard Oh, yea... don't know why I wrote that. Probably tired.😴😴
+Turbo Pokey No worries. But yeah, that's an interesting idea that the Hobus Star supernova that destroyed Romulus might have been an anti Borg weapon gone awry.
They won't start sweetie has had several chances to annihilate the Borg and they didn't because of "morals" the enterprise-d developed a computer virus that would cause the board to send self destruct codes to the entire fleet but they decided that it was wrong.
Borg Cube was like FUUUUCK THAT SHIT
"Looks to me like those explosions are triggered by the torpedo detonating inside the cube. They're certainly not detonating on the outside!"
Transphasic
they're looking for ways to adapt
..
Collective - Umm... concentrate fire on their bridge..? That might work
Brenden Y Too bad the new armor was holding up to all that damage the Borg tried to do...
@@mdredheadguy1979 Plot armour, literally
"They're looking for ways to adapt."
*Borg fire more intense rays.
Modern problems require modern solutions.
When your ship is so powerful that Attack Pattern Alpha 1 is all you need.
Admiral Janeway herself stated the Borg would adapt in time. She basically gave the collective ludicrously advanced armour and weapons tech to get Voyager home. Imagine a cube decked out with this stuff?
She also gave the Borg a horrifically effective virus that broke up the collective.
@fishbaitx yes but if voyager had gone through first time like admiral J wanted, that never would have been necessary, and the fully functioning collective would have eventually adapted her weapons and armour
@@joecolman1968 coulda shoulda woulda. If she went through the first time like the admiral wanted, she would have been back in the alpha quadrant with the collective still scratching their heads. Since they got all that tech due to admiral janeways shuttle being intentionally near the collective as an on-purpose sacrificial piece to infect the collective.
Bad luck for that “second” cube as it was clearly faraway enough to be the “third” cube.
I could watch the armor deploying on a loop for the rest of the week! So cool.
"They're looking for ways to adapt" wow she's to lost it in her old age!
One of my favorite episodes.
they adapted eventually! the massacre at the Azure nebula makes Wolf 359 look like a bad bruise! try the phrase Borg Armada!
The entire Star Trek fanbase: "SHOOT! What the F are you waiting for?!!"
Just so you know, I think the Ablative Generators were designed using Particle Synthesis, the same technology the Dauntless used in the episode "Hope and Fear". They did mention the Voyager invented Ablative Generators so it makes sense they looked over the information from the Dauntless and learnt how to reverse-engineer it. Voyager was exceptional a reverse engineering alien tech, they did it with both Borg tech and Quantum Slipstream (Even though QSD didn't work correctly).
This goes against what Doc Brown said in Back to the Future when he warns Marty about running into your other self from another time period Janeway runs into her older self and they kill borg ships. Old Doc Brown were to see this he'd be speechless But I love the episode anyway
Doc Brown died on Planet Genesis, and then they stole his vehicle and used it to travel back in time to get some whales. 😂
They should have destroyed ALL Borg ships.
transphasic torpedo op pls nerf~borg
What tock so long for her to return fire? She knew that her weapons would work
The technobabble is strong with this one.
I used to referee u14 Soccer matches in Modesto Ca. Early 2000's. I'm still shocked by the parents behavior from then. I'll never officiate another sporting event as long as I live...
And that applies to this video clip exactly how?
When two torpedoes could have won the battle of Wolf 359 and another two could have prevented the plots of First Contact and that one Enterprise episode from the Archer era... However, I guess the Borg would adapt soon.
And that's how all fights with the Borg should end.
'the flux capacitor is holding'
Borg queen goes nope. Calls off the other surviving cubes.
First time i hear “transfasic torpedoes” i thought i heard “transphobic torpedoes”
There is so much going on in the world these days that when this popped up in my feed, I really saw it as "Transphobic" Torpedoes.
As much as a lot of people bash Voyager, particularly for the finale, I must say I feel like this scene is quite legendary within the franchise. The idea that you can just tech up to a point where you can literally magic up unthinkable weapons just using the right ingredients and method is like forbidden magic- a pretty cool idea in my opinion.
However I can't help but feel there is a high dose of plot armour at play here too- for a species as vast as the Borg, I don't think retreating would have been their response to this- quite the opposite. Especially if they were able to detect that they were having an effect on Voyager's armour, they'd throw everything they had at it until it worked.
this was recommended to me but my dumbass saw the title out of the corner of my eye and saw "Transphobic torpedoes" . I almost spit my drink.
Im starting to miss the 90s.
Holy crap this made species 8472 look quaint.
Imagine what a fleet of Starfleet ships armed with stockpiles of transphasic torpedoes could do to the "oh-so-powerful" imperial fleet.
Considering the Star wars universe uses Lasers and the shields do not even protect them from those, I'd say the Imperial fleet would be close to helpless against any ship from star trek. The only shield we've ever seen in star wars that a ship couldn't fly right through was the giant moon based shield on Endor
@@kdrapertrucker Yup. I wonder in that regard (especially since SW "shields" don't protect from physical impacts most of the time) how much damage a photon or quantum torpedo could do.
@@kdrapertruckerand rogue one
This show was running on autopilot for so long like a shambling zombie, then at the end they just said "fuck it, just get them back home and it doesn't matter how ridiculous or contrived we make it!"
You might find this funny or not. A brief scan of the video title made me look twice. Replace "as" with "ob" and you'll see why. Cheers!
1:16 “Assimilate THIS!”
Using the grenade launcher in GTA like:
I love how technology can be altered so quickly only when there's an imminent danger...reconfigure the emiier array...lmfao
It's probably a scenario where someone has to scroll through a long dropdown menu of reconfiguration choices--hopefully in some sort of easily-recognizable order. And when something new pops up, some programmer adds the new choice to the menu and forgets to escape a line in the programming, resulting in the console exploding.
Could have *sworn* the title said something different
Ive always wondered what the difference was between the transphasic torps, the trcovolt devises and quantum torps.
I tried using transphasic torpedoes in STO but some ships don't blow up in one hit. What gives?
It's a balancing thing or something. They're better used in a spread.
Borg:We are the Borg surrender!
Voyager:Yes but I am Ironman!
(Activats Armor)
Was fun playing Klingon Academy with the "Endgame" Voyager mod. Once took on a fleet of Negh'Vahr, Vorcha, D-7s and Birds of Prey. Just wrecked them with transphasic torpedos.
I loved that game, I wish someone could make a modern version of it.
Why not just fire torpedoes like crazy as soon as you entered their sensor range? Oh well. As soon as the Borg were "looking for ways to adapt to your armor" you should have been firing those torps.
I totally agree. It doesn't make any sense to give an enemy time/chance to fight back. Voyager got close to the transwarp network, and instead going through it (anyway), they turned back, giving the Borg time to react. That's why the second time Voyager got here, their amor and weapons were far less effective. Even when the Borg didn't assimilate Admiral Janeway, I believe that the Borg could adapt very soon.
Because writers.
Because voyager would run out of torpedoes before the borg ran out of ships. The borg would have shared their sensor data across the entire collective. It wouldn't matter how many ships you destroyed in the here and now, Borg 1000 lightyears away would be working on the problem
@@joecolman1968 they were being attacked by 3 Borg cubes not 1000. Destroying them fast does not give them time to adapt.
Borg Collective : (internal comms) the pattern of Voyager indicates 2-dimensional thinking. They lost 6dof freedo? No, they just engaged defensive Patten Alpha 1 ‘Janeway’s done give a drone’. Withdraw.
I read that too fast when I was scrolling by, and thought it said transphobic torpedoes. Had to click to see what the hell was going on.
Got to give that armor credit. I don’t think the whole battle fleet at Wolf 359 lasted as long as it did.
Wouldnt the queen just order the cubes to smash into voyager and then harvest the technology after? Even if none survived the explosion, the threat is eliminated.
Literal plot armour :D
Not once in these comments did i see mentioned that this is basically old technology. These torpedoes are using the same tech that was used with the shield development on the Pegasus. That Enterprise D used to escape an asteroid. They was also an Episode whete Dr Beverly Crusher used transphasic shielding to encroach the cronussphere of a sun to destroy a borg ship. Voyager is full of sloppy writing that was its biggest problem. The only real future tech is the armour used but that is only a evolution od the blade armour used on the Defiant.
Applying this to a torpedo is the gimmick
Why couldn't the new shows just pick up the technology from this series
Somebody please post this video in 4K, should be crazy awesome!😁
lmfao i stg i thought the title of the video was "transphobic torpedoes"
I totally read the title as "transphobic torpedoes".
To stop Voyager one of the Cubes, which has way more mass, should've sacrificed itself and just kamikaze collided into Voyager. New ablative armor or not isn't going to protect Voyager from that!!!
LOL I'm not kidding here, but I clicked the thumbnails because I thought this video was going to be a parody called "Transphobic Torpedoes"
Sad.
I read the title and thought it said.
"Transphobic torpedoes "
I miss proper trek. Tactics, discussions, wit, didnt have windows for a viewscreen inter alia
Are those even full sized Borg cubes
Looks like it.
Such a great finale, if only the ending wasnt shit.
Dat holographic armor totally fooled the borg.
Janeway is the worst Startrek captain other than Pike in the new series.
1:25 Voyager 360 no scope
Enkarashaddam No pls, I'm lmfaoing
Why is it we don't see more transphasic torpedoes? 😢
plot reasons. Also its future tech so... ( we shoud seen it in discovery in the 32th centruy i guess its a missed opportunity. also prob too powerful deus ex machina XD)
Hmmmm
When Shields. Were down 97%. I'd Fire by now
Not wait till I'm down 50%. What she waiting for ???
I would have targeted all 3 cubes at once to avoid chances of them adapting or escaping.
Is this meant to be science fiction or children's fantasy?
Stay the course.
Hey nerd. Yeah you. What's with the armor?
Borg destroyed 250 civilizations and yet has one beam weapon. Naw, real let down of of aa show ending
The new lgbt politically correct star trek will need to have transgender torpedoes as part of the plot armament or risk the show getting cancelled.
1:32 Borg Queen: GRRRR!!
God mode enabled.
NUMBER! SALT!
Read that as transphobic torpedoes for a second lol
Transphobic torpedoes
Transphobic torpedoes!
This was, literally, PLOT ARMOR.
I'll see myself out...
Why move so slowly?
transphobic torpedoes?
What has the internet done to us😔…
1:08 why not do that while your armor was still at 100%? Ha ha!
Transphobic torpedoes 😂
At first I read transphobic torpedoes😆