We Need a New Planter! Perhaps Red?!
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We Need a New Planter! Perhaps Red?! This is just ridiculous! Nothing but problems with our John Deere planter today. #cliffhanger
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I love how everyone is in to the color war. But everything breaks down don't matter what color but as I have found out it's if you can fix it or got a good service to help get it fixed fast when you need it
That's exactly correct 💯
Right to repair ..... Something mother deere is highly against.
Not saying them other colors are much better but jeez, Deere and Harley are two companies that just want their customers to suffer. You can only get their parts and service from them and pay their ridiculous costs. Or you can be broke down and never get anything done. You'd almost think people would catch on 🤷
@@winkletown8828 they aren’t the only ones that do it. Not even close.
@@winkletown8828 so we are just going to pretend Apple doesn’t exist
@@winkletown8828 that’s not it at all. I think the right to repair has been hugely misconstrued. Nobody complains that they can’t fix there laptop or phone. How about vehicles, washers and dryers now as well. As technology advances it takes special equip or software to perform repairs. It’s not really the brand. It’s just the way technology is headed. Most customers can do the physical repair on there units.but if it comes to diagnosing a repair sometimes it takes more then a Manual to figure it out.. hopefully that makes sense.
Next time on "Millennial Famer": Jim replaces Zack's phone ring tones with the 4640 error beep. Becky lets Zack know that he still hasn't cleaned up the "bin mess" in the yard and he needs to get on that. Zack's father calls to say the digger is working great and has no electrical issues and hopes Zack's day is going well. Police are called when Zack has a breakdown at the local super market about food he wants to get but can't because it's on row 12.
EPIC! row 12 - haha
This was great
Okay now that is funny af 🤣
The self checkout on checkout lane 12 isn't working and he can't even buy groceries
🤣🤣🤣
The actor in this sit com is brilliant you’d almost believe he’s having a rough year 😂👍
Zach, no matter how bad you feel, your subs love the heck outta your family, Dad and Jim, especially. Hey, Becky and the kids, too!!!
As a retired engineer I have a few thoughts; first, one bad sensor shouldn’t be able to stop the whole operation. You should be able to take that sensor “ out of scan “ and continue planting one less row or there may be a problem with the program itself. Secondly, it appears the sensors/transducers may not be heavy built enough to withstand the environment they’re in-- heat or vibration. I plant and sell an acre of sweet corn every year using my 2 row 3pt Ford 309 planter. No GPS. No sensor. Works great. Good luck.
With the amount of complicated add-ons on that rig I can’t imagine it running a full day, ever.
There's still no reason he should have to endure these issues. With how expensive this thing is, it should run like a dream, complexity be damned. It's unacceptable how much these sensors fail. Plenty of other complicated machines run just fine. John Deere should make this right.
@@petemiller2598 well I think the storm and the fallen shed didn't help
@@nolansturn q
I thought it was fine last year after they did the conversion......
Nothing runs like a deer !! Lol
We had a similar issue after ours sat in the rain for a while. The sensors on those things are utter garbage because we had to replace each and every one of them. Then, we switched varieties in our beans and had to replace the seed sensors. We got it going eventually, but sometimes I wish we just had an old 7300 John Deere 12 row, because you can make them plant
Zach whenever you take a row unit apart, do the same with the one next to it and swap a part at a time until the code moves to the other row unit.
I was thinking the same thing.
or just go to team red, and you don't have to try crazy stuff
He has done this in years past I remember.
Yes, change the parts in row 12 out with 13, ….internet wizards are here to help Zach lol
@@davidanalyst671 lol case and kubota planters get way more better luck then a deere is lol
Not trying to brag. But my old JD7000 4 row planter did a fantastic job planting this year. Didn’t even hook the monitor up I trusted it so much
The amount of patience you have with that planter is saint-like. Knowing myself I would have snapped and done something drastic long ago
, Going ballistic Kevin, solves nothing and does nothing to help. Keeping a rational mind is the best route , of course one gets frustrated, But raising your blood pressure can cause serious health problems :(
@@theda850two fake screaming and getting angry is very therapeutic for me...I'm not actually mad I just like to yell and act all upset because it's funny.
So complicated, computer farming. Like cars that are mechanically fine but the computer malfunctions. One of ours came back from a work shop, next day went on a long trip where little civilisation and it started roaring the engine and going fast by itself then going slow over and over. The mechanic on the phone saying it should clear. Did settle….for a bit. At the end of the day went totally mad, blew masses of smoke, up and down the speed….by itself, no control. Blew up the engine. Sitting on the side of the road at 39*c, no water.
@@theda850two I agree, but everyone has a breaking point and I was just saying I would have reached mine with that planter long ago 😄
@@luadraponies ha ha computer car.......!
Do an OLF and just let it fly!!!! You will feel so much better and it will clear your head!
15 years of working in agriculture, and i have seen more fault codes in your last 3 videos than in my whole career combined . Well done John Deere!! I hope you will get it sorted soon. Greetings from Europe!
Agreed
Yup. Change colour......
well, it did have a whole ass barn dropped on it
i know what's wrong with it, it hade a barn on it xd
@@awg6397 but it was sent to jd to be fixed after that......
The fact the planter runs at all is kind of amazing, with a building having fallen on it, after watching the ZK guys tear into it and explain how complicated that all is.
Hate to see all the stress and struggles you guys are going through. Hopefully things turn around for y’all. Wishing you and your family the best.
From Indiana
It doesn't matter what color it is, when electronic stuff goes bad it just goes. We've had issues with every color.
@@maxnex7676 Well, that planter got a building fall on it. Even if the dealer checked it, there could be some stuff they missed. As a fellow farmer, I know the feeling when you just want to trow every stupid monitor out and accidentally drive over it, 8 times, on concrete.
@@bzs187 Exactly. JD probably didn't design it to be resistant to the amount of wind/rain it got (or the building for that matter). Water can get into the tightest spaces when pushed by 100+ mph winds.
The JD dealer by us had 100mph winds and rain... guess where the planter were... outside!
@@maxnex7676 I know that pain to well. We have a still pretty new Kverneland planter, 2. season using it. But it just don't want to work how it should. Too many miss, too many doubles, the rates are off. You want it to work, a bit because it was not a cheap thing and because it's a big brand. Yet it's not what we expected and it's sucks. Could be our fault, could be the dealer bad way of teaching, or it just not for us. Same with Zach is how I see it. That's how farming is. Many try and error that cost a lot of many.
I'm probably late to the game, but I've had the same issue on my exactemerge. It ended up being the seed bowl itself. The tension on the seed bowl was set too heavy and the motor was not strong enough to spin the meter. After backing off the tension, the problem went completely away.
If you end up keeping the planter, try putting dielectric grease in all the dowforce sensor harness connector plugs and then put heat shrink tube over the plug. That has worked well for clearing up downforce sensor issues.
We use a fully mechanical 7000 series yet. It may take longer, but if it breaks we don’t need to call the dealership
I was just thinking a fleet of JD 7000 planters would get it done. Had a guy use mine to patch spots in. He said it was the first time he had run a planter and didn't worry that it was working. No monitor just driving and putting corn in the ground.
I don’t miss those old planters! Even when the new ones give you fits they are still far better and accurate.
I'm honestly beginning to wonder if having a fleet of those new Massey Ferguson 35s they sell in Africa and Asia and hiring guys to man then a few times a year may be a cheaper and easier to maintain option.
I have a kine 2300 (7000 row unit) its old, worn out, not as "smart" as these but man if the shafts are turning she's planting! I would like to upgrade to a vac planter one of these years maybe I can get a touch better singulaltion
I just said something about mechanical machinery lol
Man, who are the writers for this show?! He said “maturity” like 100 times without a single dad joke.
This makes our 7200 12 row look pretty good right now lol...
I’m more of a red farm equipment person, but I could honestly care less what color it is as long as it works. Hell, if a pink one would work and be bulletproof, I’d have it hooked up to the back of the tractor! You guys have had a rough spring, so hopefully the man upstairs will give y’all a break for the rest of the year and give y’all more grain than you guys know what to do with. Hang in there, things will hopefully get better soon.
My wife actually painted one of our tractors a couple years back, so now we have a pink Allis 4W305
random errors on sensors that use a single power delivery line are often grounding problems to the voltage supply, easy to check by hitching to another machine for a few minutes
I was thinking this as well. if something got mashed together when the planter got landed on, it might be very difficult to track down a split wire or something similar
grounding problems can also be on the positive lead also. A glitch in a modern computer running at 50Mhz will drive any sensor or op amp crazy with false codes. Check the positive voltage feed also
10:43 Error 5V Sensor Supply undervoltage condition detected. This video should be sponsored by WD 40 Contact Specialist.
Weird intermittent codes like that are almost always wiring related. Look for a power feed or ground that is shared between the sensors. Something might have gotten stretched or mashed in the wiring harness when the shed fell on it.
I would not be surprised with the rain+wind it got exposed to if a weatherpacking failed in a connector somewhere and there is some nice blue and green crusties causing a voltage drop to ground that's confusing the sensors. That 5V undervolt is a great indicator of it. Or a wire somewhere got damaged in the tornado, perhaps internally without insulation and there is an intermittent connection. And hunting that down takes time and isolation. And time... time is certainly not on your side :(
that's sounds logical.
I do think that the strom caused damage somewhere where it isn't easy to spot or diagnose
I agree - this is exactly what it sounds like. This type of thing is also likely to be intermittent which also takes longer to troubleshoot. Thinking pie in the sky: It would be interesting if connectors could have auto diagnostics by measuring standing waves generated by the regular interface. A trouble code "connector 42 is intermittent on red-white striped wire" would be easier to find.
On bobcat wiring I call it the green death. Fertilizer and wiring is not a marriage made in heaven.
Probably did but every year it’s such a chore to get running it looks like. I would have been shot well before now. He has more patience than me!
@@TheElectricgamez The annoying part is that major damage such as a bent arm, torn hose, crushed tank etc. is expensive but easy to find and repair. Damage to wiring which can be as small as a splinter having been driven into a wiring harness is so hard to find unless you just get lucky. And they need to be planting right now not spending days and days isolating connections and looking for faults.
I dare say to salvage the year they might want to rent a planter and have the dealer completely go through this one or just straight up replace it if it's old enough.
We had a 1770 Deere planter. It had problems from the moment it was put in the dirt when it was brand new! Finally got rid of it and now have a custom built full precision planter and love it. It has a few issues, but NOTHING like the problems we had with the Deere! Good luck!
Your videos the last 2 years are why I canceled my exact emerge upgrade and went with a different companies high speed upgrades. Thank you for the honest videos about the issues you have.
I know how F-in frustrating getting nothing done due to the smallest issues, like a sensor, or some tiny thing on a corn head bent 2° so its not noticeable but causing all the problems. Yet, seeing another farmer lose his mind, well its like therapy for other farmers who where earlier in the day losing theirs…. Like were not alone… haha so altho its pure frustration and real. Thank you for showing the real side noone talks about. Cause especially this year when the sun comes out a very short timer starts before the next rain and your stuck anyway!
You may have already done this but check where the planter plugs into the tractor and make sure its tight and no mud has worked its way in there. Sometimes bouncing around and turning can pull on that plug and make a loose connection, and check the plug itself and make sure it didn't get damaged in the storm, a little crack can cause big problems.
I use dielectric grease on my seven pin plug on my tractor trailer connections and on any of the other contact points like light connections it helps with corrosion and moisture too. Don’t know if you have done that already but it might help?
I’m really surprised Zach that with all them problems you have had that Midwest hasn’t giving you a ride along mechanic to make sure that you get your seed in the ground and Deeres not getting you a new db demo with an 8rx ready to plant.
This makes me appreciate the awesome simplicity of our old White 543 6 row.
Exactly rt. Never touch them, plant as even as anything today. Take less hp per row to operate as well. But ya john deere has to be the best rt... ha
@@scottmcgregor2757 haha. I'd say sometimes mechanical is the best. All our tractors were Deere so I do love Deere though.
This feels like the reason I see farmers supporting right to repair. I couldn't stand having to call someone to fix software issues.
(Quietly whispers: "This is everyone's future.")
How frustrating...
I always suggest picking the color of equipment based on the availability of parts and service. 👍
If 12 keeps throwing fits maybe try moving all the mechanical parts to a neighboring unit and see it the problem persists. If it stays with the unit you know it's not those. I'm not sure how much of a pain it is to swap sensors from row to row but I'd start switching those one at a time to see if any of those make the problem move. If any do make it move replace that one and pray. If the problem doesn't move with any of that, you may have a bad motor or the wiring has an issue somewhere. You may already know or have done this but just trying to help maybe save some bucks on a service call. Hope things get better for you and you're able to get planted. Best of luck.
The open honest and transparency is amazing, so good to watch
Man you're the only UA-camr I actually care about when you have a problem, I feel bad for you man I know how frustrating that must be, things will turn around!
I loved the ending. Your language is representative of the IT engineers I manage. Learning a wide and varied vocabulary is the only way to survive dealing with technology.
It certainly becomes easier if you can debug your own programs, it provides great insight into why things are broken.
Vocabulary is meaningless if you don't understand the fundamentals and meaning behind the words.
Your planter makes me appreciate how simple my Kinze 8 row is. I don’t have to worry about a sensor giving trouble not allowing me to plant
I some how feel your pain. As a "harvester" of grass, I sometimes run into machinery problems. And I too look to the shy and hope for sunny and dry days as I run my "harvester" over the lawns. Today is 5/27 and I hope that you got the problem fixed by this date.
If you keep getting errors from a false binding situation try a battery disconnect. Has worked for me. Solves many various issues.
Hey @MillennialFarmer, I grew up in SW Florida and there is an Everglades Farm Equipment hub in my hometown. It was awesome seeing you rep Everglades farm equipment in your last video. Now I live up here in MN, I've been watching your the last 3 years. Thanks for all the amazing videos and insight into farming in MN.
Everglades is an excellent dealer. I have used them for years.
We traded our johndeere planter for a horsch maestro 4815 split row planter. We can plant at 8 to 10 mph and do 30 inch corn and 15 inch beans with the same planter . The horsch is simple and reliable and was cheaper than a new johndeere. I'm not brand biased as we run case/ johndeere equipment both have strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully things go better for you guys!
That Maestro is a nice unit. We bought an horsch Avatar and like it so far.
@@BriansFarmingVideos I'm a subscriber of yours as well been watching for 5 years ! I'm jealous of that avatar of yours dad wants one but we just bought a 40 foot case 500 airseeder 2 years ago . We finished planting today and had no issues in the 2 seasons on ours .
it could very well be that moisture in the cables, connectors and sensors is the problem. caused by the storm.
much more success.
I've seen several farmers in the area, mostly wearing blue and black outfits, planting seed using a strange, new machine pulled by a small horse or other animal. No fault codes, no diesel, very interesting.
If I was that Green Co., I'd be on the line with Zach figuring out a way to get him the latest and greatest planter on a demo loan!
Then Green Co. can fix it on their own time and not Zach’s.
It's Zach!!!!
Their latest and greatest is what that planter was converted to . Had a very sharp planter tech check it over before planting season.Apparently it checked out again when they had it in after the storm. I wonder if their isn't some issues with wiring/electronics caused by the shed collapse or being in an electrical storm?
@@deadghost1964 don’t get your panties in such a wad
@@deadghost1964 Corrected.
Not alone at all Zach. That's exactly what I said today while dealing with an intermittent issue related to software... multiple times!!!
When I was a kid, my dad had a red 6 row planter it was a chain drive, as long as you could keep the chains on it, it would plant.
Yep just make sure the chains were well lubricated!
@@michaelbuss5731 And you had seed in the tanks. Because if you did not, god knows where it got empty. :D
@@michaelbuss5731 This thing had galvanized hoppers, large square link chains and metal wheels. It was an antique in the 70's when he was using it.
@@josephbrands6303 But half his day wasn't lost to sensors, electronics, etc. Oh I forgot the planter did have a sensor, the rod that was in the middle of the planter box cap that would go down as the seed was planted. When the rod was almost down to the top of the cap it was time to refill the box from a sack. But I digress.
@@bzs187 We thought we were in high cotton when we progressed to an IHC "air flow" planter - which was the precursor to the machines of today. Made one hell of a whistling sound as it was pushing seed by air pressure from the seed tank. And even higher cotton when you went from a 4-row to an 8-row planter!
Zack wiring for the sensors on the planter heads are a 5 v system per another video while the planter was in diagnostic. This tells me that it's a very low current system. The terminals in the plugs need to be pristine clean and I'd bed them with dielectric silicone grease. Wiring down the frame of the planter I assume at all bundled together. This can cause a huge issue with sensor wiring. For instance say you seed motor wiring is laying next to down pressure sensor wiring eletrical noise can cross over from your seed motor wiring into your down pressure wiring causing problems. A good sensor wire either isolated from high current wires or have what they call a drain wire constructed like this, power wire, sensor wire, voltage return wire ( some people call it the ground) all wrapped in a foil or foil with a bare wire grounded to the frame. There's alot more but this is a good start.
The row unit for row 12 appears to be very close the seed tank that was crushed by the shed. Wouldn't be surprised if some wiring in that area was also damaged.
Wrong side
@@peteparker7396wasn't the tank above 12 the one that was smashed down?
Pretty sure they will have checked all the wiring possible. And they did take it to the dealers after the storm.
@@peteparker7396 he’s absolutely right. Read L->R when facing the direction of travel. The tank that was smashed was on the left side.
Judging by the other error thrown about not getting enough voltage on the 5v line, I suspect you might be right.
That planter would do my head in. I personally run a 12 Harvest International, vset2 meters, Agleader downforce, and drives. Its a really good system, sure it throws the odd issue but nothing that shuts it down. Load cell might play up, set that row to match its opposite one and carry on. Motors never ever give trouble. Occasionally it will share the cotter pin on the drive. Still a 5 min in field fix. The best part- its the only one in New Zealand like it. I have no dealer support apart from agleader and carry my own spares. Id 100 recommend looking into it. This year we’re building an 8 row kinze/agleader, hopefully it proves as good
I agree with some on here. With all the moisture y'all have experienced this year and the impact that planter took from the roof falling on it while rain was being driven at 100 mph, I bet connections have corroded or sensors got waterlogged. With the impact and all the movement that planter makes I also wouldn't put it past a pinched or partially separated conductor somewhere that makes intermittent contact which would involve a continuity test on every conductor. You could do that with a multimeter. I would definitely get some electronic contact cleaner and some dielectric grease unplug every wire and sensor and clean the connections and coat them. You could always bypass in parallel the bad sensor with a few wires from a sensor that is working next to it. The computer will not know the difference. All it sees are connections. The downside is if it does stop planting you won't know. They should install a system or diagnostic that lets you hook directly to that one row and run through all the motors, sensors, belts etc. Good luck.
When it goes thew a tornado everything goes wrong. Good luck from a lifetime farmer here. Things were much simpler back in the day.
On this episode of millennial farmer Zach loses his crap and goes and buys a brand new planter. Keep on pushing buddy you will get it! Happy farming!
On this episode Zach tractors change color to red 🤣
I thought I was watching a rerun of last year... But no this is post tornado damage season otherwise known as 2022
Needs to go back to chain drive and spring downforce lol
I'm reminded of all the problems you had when you were attempting to strip-till as well... I hate to see all the issues you're having after all the damage your farm took during the storm. Keen on keeping on and you'll get through them, it might have to be with a new planter, but you'll get through them. Take care, buddy.
Hate to see all the problems you are having. We have ran a 16 row 1255 Case planter for 8 seasons now. We wouldn’t change brands for anything. Simple and easy to use, and with a lead disc it’ll cut through heavy soil and residue a lot easier and with less down pressure than a true-v system. Only thing we don’t like is Case’s monitors. They lack behind others.
Im a cnh lad but im not locked to em. Theire overall good machines and our local dealer (which is most important imo) is great. But yea cnh has been lacking on interior and the monitor. Buying a 2020 machine and it feels like a 2005 monitor is not a good thing. Its not bad or faulty but its lacking in features and ease of use etc. But the new models do look 🔥👌 tho
Pro 1200 is a pretty darn good monitor now. I do agree the 600 and 700 were OK.
@@Farmer1277 we only use the Pro700 for the row clutches and fold functions really anymore. We have Greenstar in our 2 track Challengers now. I haven’t ran a new 1200 monitor yet but I’m looking forward to!
@@SlyFoxl we have been CNH for 30+ years until recently. Been burned on their latest equipment the last 10 years and decided to give green a chance. Only thing that won’t change color around here for now is planters.
Having an old planter on hand set up for just a situation as this really does pay for itself in time and money saved and getting the seed in the ground.
old school farming is slower, but much easier. technology can leave you stranded.
It's that age old question of time or money.
If you've got the time you can save money.
If you've got money you can save time.
@@Ben-fk9ey right bruhh 👍
When you have a building land on your planter it ain’t gonna work🤷
Im old school and gonn keep it that way.
Good luck planting your 2022 crops Zach
I'm sure it has occurred to you, but take a close look at all the service calls on the planter as being related to the building falling on it. You seem to have good record of what is normal problems. Glad you are all safe.
Harvest International's Ultraplant looks pretty sweet. It'll be all loaded with Precision Planting stuff. Row units similar to JD but without the metric bolts(I think). Ought to be good support since there seems to be Precision dealers everywhere. Of course you could always replace all the wonky JD parts with Precision and still pull the same planter bar.
Hang in there Zach, 🙏 things will work out. We hadn't had a good stand of corn for the last 3 years, this year we finally got it. Last year we were late too. And then had to replant and then it didn't rain and the corn didn't come up and it was pour. We got an insurance check which we hadn't received one for 9 years. Last year we had only 2 weeks or less opportunity to plant. So we went like hell the first chance we got, got all the corn planted. Then it ass pounding rained 2 inches in like an hour. Broke over everything, washed dirt everywhere. Made it a huge mess. Also yeah we enjoy listening to you talk to yourself. That's basically what you do lol 😆. Walk around with a camera and talk to yourself. Keep your head up. We just traded to a slow speed john planter from a kinze and I like it so far those down force sensors are a pita but they kinda told me to ignore those.
I went back and bought a new finger unit Kinze mechanical drive. It also has an Ag Leader monitor for row shut offs and mapping. 95% of issues are usually easy to locate and fix. Im not color specific either. Green tractors Red combine, yellow round balers.
Just discovered this channel and kinda like it, watched about 5 videos now and my god i'm never buying any John Deere equipment. Yours look pretty new and well maintained and you have so many problems and issues with them!
Everything is like this now a days johndeere seems the best when it comes to def so it's back and forth
Well when a building falls on your planter it ain’t gonna come out the same as before
yeah.. im pretty happy with a manual planter without all the john deere electronics.. it might not look as pretty but its sure less headache
Kinse is the way to go! Made about an hour from me and great product
Yep..We plant beans with 2 kinzes and I plant the corn/milo with old JD 7000 no monitor or nothing on it..
Possibly oxidization on sensor contact points; the dealers' shifting them around trouble-shooting may be just cleaning contact points by friction. Suggest un-plug everything on row 12, spray conrtact cleaner; plug in everything; try to plant. (12-38)
Zack, I don't know how you manage to keep it together. With everything that is going on you still manage to put out decent content.
I'll tell you this, if you and I swapped places, there would be no videos because I would have lost it long ago. The language would be blue and a huge big hammer would have been involved. I speak fluent mechanic with a logger accent so....
Sounds like grounds. If it was a piece of commercial equipment I'd say do a pull test, but this is all conectorized. Cleaning up grounds and maybe running some supplementals might be useful.
This is exactly why a lot of farmers still run "old school" chain drives. The precision stuff is nice when it works but chains and sprockets are a lot easier to diagnose and fix
Yup, even the young guys who used to love the high tech stuff on our farm have finally had enough. Moving, is better than parked.
I feel this video soo much, if you're not farming you're fixing. It sucks sometimes.
Ever thought about a Kinze planter? We have had one for 5 years or so and we love it!
Isn't Kinze just a John Deere planter just blue?
@@chrisdurso3325 No, Kinze are it own company. Kinze and Deere had many similar patents in the past. Not sure currently.
@@chrisdurso3325 you have that backwards John Deere is just a Kinze planter painted green...
I love my blue dive they even have a no frills no electronics one also.
@@ehud87 I believe kinze is who got taken to court. Of in his genius he won lol
We switched to Kinze over 20 years ago. Really haven't had much to complain about since then.
I am feeling pretty good about my 7000 after watching that. I was getting pissed right there along side you. Modern technology seems to bring with it problems farmers don’t have the time and patience to deal with.
Thats what I used on my corn/milo..Didint even hook up the monitor.
I feel your pain. Had our planter in the shop before season to get it ready to go. Apparently it had other ideas, it’s now May 28th and I still have 130 acres left of corn, beans are done and I’m planting a 109 day corn. Yay! Haha
Meter motor binding is usually the meter bowl too tight against the meter. If that doesn’t help, swap the meter (yellow part) with the row next to it. If the problem moves then you can isolate your problem like that. Do the same with the brush belt and so on..
In your diagnostics under seedstar you can check the torque that each motor is turning, that’s usually a pretty good indicator of where to look for the problem
Ilike the way you explained the maturity issues in the different seed.
Looks like the storm did more damage then you thought to the planter
Gotta love it when these issues always happen when your backs against the wall and every hour can make a difference in yield. I feel your pain..
🤣Great job of editing, Bec! Thanks for sharing that “Millennial Meltdown”😃
Zach, hang in there! I’d bet a lung there’s a blessing lurking around after a day like that. But, you know this. Some days are like that because of the way they are😁
All prayers and blessings to the Johnson gang 😃🙏🏻👍🇺🇸🌽
Closing words were the best.... too much tech in your planting system for ME to deal with. I tip my hat to you Zach! I hope it gets better for you soon. I like the old mechanical planters, but they have their drawbacks too. Wish you the best!
When it comes to planters I'll stick with old school. As long as a chain don't break I'm planting.
And if the GPS fails ,you just throw down the markers and keep right on planting
Unless the markers fell off and the in laws don’t care to put them back on and drive via light bar on a 1970s IH
And with our 7000, the seed sensors tell us when it's not planting and are cheap (relatively) to replace.
I'd hear that beeping noise in my nightmares. They should add more sensors to check to make sure the other sensors are working.
In the last 2 years of running Gen 4 screen, 100% of the closing wheel air faults have been false. Wish JD would change the parameter for alert on that. And the cloddier and rougher the field the worse they get.
I think Andy ( farming, fixing, fabricating) is having better luck with the upgrades to the planter! Thanks for all your videos!
Hey Zack, just watched Kevin from Junkyard digs plant a few acres with an old H and some slightly newer implements that were way to big for it. He had problems, but no sensor issues:/ I'm wondering if switching to overalls could change your vibe? Stay strong! BTW, watching you talk to yourself is one of the best parts.
I switched to bib overalls and still have the same planting struggles…
it's true watching you talk through you processes actual farming and equipment troubleshooting is pretty cool, kind of impressive you don't flip out. That's how work gets done.
Your planter was hit over the head with a building falling on it probably in a vacuum with rain going supersonic in all directions around it, I'm surprised that it still works at all. If you want to compare Red watch Ivers farm and watch the track falling off, or go up to Canada and watch a NEW Fent break down with a couple of hours on it. They ALL break at the worst time and it all comes down to your local dealer and you seem to have a great one.
When you have so many sensors that are integral to the operation of the planter every piece is critical. Then add Chinese components like connectors, wire, and modules…….
I’m sure you know the math but mechanical planters might be not be so obsolete.
Agreed. Finger Pickup or Vacuum Meters are the way to go. Electronics can have Gremlins, and One should Limit The Amount of Electronics on anything, especially something that is Out in The Dust, Mud, and Rain. You may not be able to Do Variable Rate with a Finger Pickup Planter, but your Crop will Get Planted as long as you can get Through the Field.
There's beauty in simplicity!
We like seeing real life and real life means break downs frustration, anger, problem solving, and emotional stress we don’t wish it on you we pray it stops but we still want to watch it all happen!!!!!
I would definitely recommend the case ih 2150 they seem to do a really good job we plant with case planter and never have problems with codes
My heart goes out to you, you’ve certainly had your share of problems this year but like all farmers I know you will just keep going until it gets done.
Can you do a video with just full clips of what he filmed no editing? 😂😂 it would be interesting! 😂 awesome video!!
Not on yt, but maybe off the husk!
Buy a harvest international you won’t regret it! Made the switch from green to gray and it was one of the best decision. Ag leader high speed! Literally buy a tool bar and build it how you want! Storm lake Iowa is head quarters.
Hope you get everything back to fully normal Zach. Keep up the good work.
PLEASE not red though!
Get a tech with a lab scope to monitor your 5 volt supply at row unit 12. (And this may need to be done on the move) Your monitor said 5 volt low as soon as that voltage goes low all information reported to your computer is garbage and can not be trusted. I really believe something is causing that 5 volt to go down creating all the false sensor readings. Stable 5 volts is a must have on any control system. Bad ground, bad connection, wire pinch. Thanks for all you do. (Retired machine tool tech and I have been in your shoes keep pushing it will get better.
As a Swede, I hope for a Väderstad planter 🤞
I am so glad I found your channel. I grew up on a small farm on the eastern side of Wisconsin. I used to help my Dad with planting corn for many years. Nothing as sophisticated as what you have. I think we planted 6 rows at a time. My Dad ran the tractor with the planter and I ran the truck with the seed bags and fertilizer. After Dad would fill up on both I would drive the truck down the lane to the next fill up spot. Then I’d lay out on the bags and work on my farmer tan. My Dad passed away last Nov. but watching your videos brings back so many good memories. Thank you for sharing your farmers life. Blessings to you and your family
I'd love to find the engineer's dad that came up with electronic sensors and hand him a couple boxes of Trogans. Sometimes adding electronics to things isn't the best idea.
It doesn't matter what color it is. They are all great when they work. And they all suck when they don't
In theory, all these electronics are supposed to increase efficiency, provide better and more even seed placement and increase yields and productivity. However, that is a theory only. These new planters are simply getting too sophisticated with computer technology and the productivity is suffering greatly. We need to go back to simple mechanical drive. Even going slower through the field, there would be no stopping due to electronic issues. Can you tell I hate computers, and the added problems they often bring to the table? We are simply too dependant on computers! Period!!!!!
amen to that from someone who has worked on and with electronics for 20+ years, best thing is to stay away from tech as much as possible cause it ALWAYS will fail and fail when you need it most.
Its not just the complexity is thats the problem its the software thats a bigger issue. JD doesnt want farmers fixing anything. They want you paying them. Theres no reason even if its throwing so codes you shouldnt be able to just bypass and continue. Thats fully on JD's bad behavior. They fight Right to Repair very hard and throw tons of money at making sure it doesnt get put into law
@@dralord1307 That's not only Deere though is it?
Electronics can be great but the must never fail in a way that stops the primary purpose of the thing. I fight this every single day for you. - software dev
Our 30 year old seeder is still working like a clock every time we pull it out of the shed. Just need some grease, put seed in, do the adjustments and go to field.
So understand the frustration… different tools maybe but same …same.
I HAVE NEVER CLICKED A VIDEO SO FAST!!! NO RED MACHINERY!!!!
Zack I Feel Your Pain,,, and the planters I used were 45 years older,, I wasted more seed and could only do 4 rows at a time.... Stay True Bud,, It will work out,, somehow, someway, ,,lol