More Storm Damage, Planter Problems, and Land Rolling
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- More Rain. More Storm Damage. More Planter Problems AND Land Rolling... The planting season that just keeps giving!
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John Deere gives me a lot of confidence as an engineer. If a company their size can push out products this difficult to work with, what I make can't be too bad.
If you choose to go into agriculture, include bearings for the cam wheels on a baler
We mechanics dont like you guys 😂
@@Thebigtipper101 Is your whole thing to run through every video that includes Deere to make a comment? Deere allows anyone to work on anything they own. Clearly you don't understand the right to repair act at all. It only covers electrical and software. Both parties are correct for their side. The automotive industry has been doing the same thing for years and no one has said a word lol the hypocrisy is hilarious. Also IH died in 1986 and is a dead company outside of cases fear people wouldn't buy their junk if it didn't say ih. Hey maybe some of the engineers that came up with the 2+2 can come back and try and create something that is actually good lol
@@chadjustice8560 how many acres do you farm?
@@chadjustice8560 I can buy the software to fix a car. Deere won’t sell you the software to read their codes. I know you’re trying to sound smart here, but it didn’t work.
After watching this I went out to my 60 year old 456 IH planter, kissed it and whispered sweet nothings into its fertilizer box. Ill never complain about parts falling off of her again
Iv got an old John Deere 7000 planter n a an 1967 john Deere tractor it works kinda of Dusty
😁
"whispered sweet nothings into its fertilizer box"
I've done the same with my wife
Even I’m starting to get a little anxiety every time you put the planter down and I hear 3 Beeps from the monitor! Haha!!
Dad's knees must be functioning well. Put a lot of leverage on them lifting the tire. That's great!
Anyone notice Anna didn't bark at the 8260 when Zack's Dad started it @ 1:45 I think that dog knows what buttons to push on Zack to get a reaction out of him
She has learned that is the reaction Zach wants. Smart dog.
I appreciate the work your family does to promote grain bin safety Zach.
Use a ratchet strap around the tire till it’s really tight and it should pop back on the rim. Works every time for me.
Just don’t add too much air. Get the bead to seal then take the strap off.
Just a tish of starter fluid sprayed in quickly around the rim & inside the tire, throw a match in. Seated tire.
A lot of people already brought up the strap trick
A lot of people also swear by a squirt of ether in the tire and lighting it off to seat the bead
I like my 10 year old planter more now. Just keep the chains a turning, the springs sprung and the markers out of the fence row
We broke a 120 year old record yesterday, June 8th, with 7.62" of rain in 24 hours. Birmingham, Alabama. It could always be worse!
Traveling back from my farm yesterday I saw corn fields in Central Texas with corn shoulder high and tasseling out. They will probably start harvesting in 4-6 weeks from now.
This planter reminds me of a childhood story involving a tortoise and a hare. Which is faster, a planter you can plant 10mph half the time, or a planter that only goes 5mph, but plants all the time.
Right. And when you hit rocks at 5 you'd save money on breakage vs 10 too.
I will always be the 5mph with the planter works all the time
I'm so excited to see what kind of planter you run next year lol. That would be so damn frustrating, I really hope JD see's this and understands what this does to your already short deadline
Pretty good time for a demo...
Every color breaks down, usually most break downs happen when your in a hurry. These planters are good planters other then the down force sensors. Some dielectric grease helps those connections a lot.
How much of these planter problems were caused by the building falling on it? Not all damage is visible.
JD don't care, if they're selling equipment that's all that matters to them.
JD needs to let its customers buy the tools to diagnose so they can actually know what the problem with there tractor is rather then just be stuck in the field until the dealer can find time to come fix it.
Zach,
I had luck getting a tire bead back by putting a ratchet strap around the middle of the tire. Then tighten the strap and as the middle pushes in, the beads push out. Apply some air, and most times, the beads set! Worth a shot, before going through all of that crap to get the tire off.
I have done it that way as well.
Zach it sounds like a good kids job to cut up that tree and drag it into a pile. You can make a big fire for s’mores maybe 🤔.
It’s really good seeing ur dad get more comfortable with the camera cause it’s neat seeing u two work together
I work on these planters for a living...downforce sensors were a huge issue this spring. we got a solution from deere that you mix with isopropyl alcohol and use to clean the connectors for the downforce sensors and it seemed to make a huge difference. if you take two 6mm bolts out you can get right to the connectors otherwise they are a real pain to get back together
voodoo magic
I work on medical equipment and use a similar sounding product called Stabilant 22. Works wonders on low voltage connections with connections with dissimilar metals between male and female. Pricey stuff but it doesn’t take much to do the job.
Dielectric grease could help too !
The o-rings are undersized and allow the connector to wiggle very slightly. New slightly larger o-rings stabilize it and fix the problem almost 100% of the time. Alcohol and/or hydraulic fluid can make the o-rings fail faster.
I have heard it could also be a software issue. Commonly the voltage goes out of range for just a split second and the computer alerts to the first issue with the sensor. I wonder if delaying the fault code appearing would fix most of the issues as the problem would fix itself quickly.
Zack we are all in a big mess.Thank you for doing your best to produce much needed food for the masses.God have mercy on us all
The bassist for Confederate Railroad is my next door neighbor in Argo, Alabama. Does that mean I'm famous too?
That damn planter is pissing me off so I can only imagine how much you are sick of it!!
Zack. Check all your connectors. Make sure the pins are flush with the connector. Use Dow Corning electrical compound on each end of the connectors. Just a smear across. May help your problems. That stuff is good.
Used to use Dow Corning in the oil fields on our RCV's, guess they call them ROV's nowadays, connectors and rarely had any issues. Now granted the connectors were not plastic but rather stainless steel which is not affected as much as plastic due to temperature changes.
@@stephengile530 s sees
Dad looks like he's getting along with his new knees very well,he's running around like a 20 year old,now if you can get that planter to work!
If you talk to yourself, people call you crazy. When you talk to yourself while being recorded, You Are a CELEBRITY.
“Hey hey Nate” haha my dad would have a look of disbelief.🤣🤣
In the late 80s and early 90s if we got more than 2 weeks behind we’d have to start getting stuff in the ground no matter what. We weren’t as fortunate back then and the technology wasn’t a quarter of where it is today so we had to roll the dice and pray. We made it work though!
I would highly recommend you try a Horsch planter. If there is dealer in your area.
Proper tool for the proper job. Won't tear things up if you don't try to make things do thing they're not meant to do.
I envy you working with your dad. I worked with my son for 20 years and loved every day. Enjoy that relationship. So blessed
I really enjoy the videos, but im starting to like despise John Deeres sensor error noise, I feel your pain man!!! Good Luck! thanks for the videos!!!
Zack, after watching you have so many problems with connectors I have my two cents to throw in. Having worked in the oil industry which involved many connectors may I suggest to you to check the spring retention of the sockets in the connector. Measure the diameter of the pin and find a drill bit that fits and use it to gauge the socket.s by feel. Sockets will get loose and cause intermittent issues.
Pin drag test, can also get pins from the dealer I’m sure to use instead of a drill bit
That is true, we almost always had the corresponding connector kit with pins. But if not improvise and farmers know how to improvise.
Or just buy a Kinze planter instead 😁
@@busterbriley2119 I agree, even us non farmers do well, skilled laborers have lots of knowledge and ability as well. I just prefer known good pins or sockets vs something that might be close but not perfect.
Best wishes for your growing season. Praying hard for all of you up there.
Zack been watching your channel sorry to hear about all the problems you are having with the storm damage and all. It will get better have a bless day and sending prayers for your family and employees
A good idea that you should try is during the off season pull apart the connections, clean them will contact or electronic cleaner and apply some dielectric grease to them. That prevents moisture and dirt from getting in them.
My new 24 row works as bad as his mechanic told me not to put dielectric grease on because it reads .6 to 1 volt and grease throws it off. Also he apologized before I planted first seed because he knew it wouldn't work for me and I was going to be upset.
I usually put the grease around the seal area of the connectors and not the pins themselves. Helps keep dust and moisture out. Not as good as greasing the pins but it works.
We feel your frustration Sir! Keep up doing your best and hopefully, the late planting will produce results behind anyone's expectation! God bless you and your love one Sir! Cheers
I honestly do not feel any of his frustrations. Zack has been blessed with many opportunities because of this channel and is doing quite well for himself. You want to feel bad for someone, then feel bad for the other 90% of the farming community who struggles to pay their bills.
@@HAWKSTA24 seriously??? How rude
I'm getting frustrated and anxiety by just watching him fight this planter, I don't know how he doesn't have any grey hair yet.
@@Dood_ this happens to him every season and he has chosen the technology path with all his equipment. Having bad sensors pails in comparison to farmers who struggle to keep their equipment running. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. To me, he has no real issues then that of a very fortunate farmer.
If you switch to Case IH you won't have as many problems
When your dad started the tractor Anna didn't bark but when you start one she barks. I don't think she wants you to drive or she just wants to get in with you...
I had one of those Indian forked spring in my field...a combine tire picked it up but I was lucky as the tire man repaired the tire. It had a century wait to get picked up.
If they haven't already they need to check the pin drag on all those connectors and see if the pins are spread
Zach, I appreciate the fact that you still film even when you are dealing with the most frustrating issues imaginable. It’s good to show people that farming is not sunshine and rainbows. I agree with other people who have been saying that the storm must have done more damage than thought to that planter. So sorry you are having to deal with it.
The planter took a beating with the wind storm. It is an amazing piece of machinery. It's too bad that you have had the double whammy of planter issues and crappy weather this year. I'll say a prayer that harvest goes smoother.
Surprised you didn't give that crumpled grain bin a poke.
"...you okay?"
Zack, I know this is serious for you and the other farmers in your area. Never had such problems with orchard equipment. My biggest problem was with clogged screens and nozzles. But then again, in my day we did not have all the computerized equipment. It does seem you are burning a lot of very expensive diesel and government juice just dealing with planter issue. Looks like a building falling on it may have done more damage that originally thought. Good luck and prayers that you finish planting. Keep up the great work and videos.
God Bless you Zach. Thank you for bringing THE REALITY of farming to the World through this channel.
Farmers and Truckers are THE MOST important people on Earth, and still grossly unrecognized.
The "trickle down" when The Midwest plants late, or the Ukraine war, India had a poor grain year... It ALL adds up!.. ..
People take for GRANTED that there will be food on the shelves. Your corn makes Ethanol, but the by products feed animals, less animal food, less meat, also less Manure.. it's all gonna catch up, and the less fortunate will suffer first.
The "Trickle Down"...
I cant wait to see your new planter next year 😅
Dozzi Dozzi Dozzi….You’ll know what I mean if you go to the concert. Great band! Wish we could be there. You will never forget them.
A few years ago I was running a "Yellow" machine. We were having lots of connector problems. I found a unique spray can that all but eliminated the intermittent connector problems.
Look into and get yourself a can of DeoxIT Series cleaner / lube from CAIG.
The connectors we had were gold contacts so we got the lube specifically for gold, but I have used both kinds they offer with amazing results.
Also, with custom created pin connectors, sometimes the pins are not completely seated into the housing and just push back out of the connectors when screwed together. this causes intermittent signals. You need to open the back of the connector and fully seat the pins.
I wish you continued good luck.
Deoxit is good stuff and helps with these low current connectors that tend to sit over winter.
Zack, it really sounds like you have a weak electrical connection on row 12. I would get the tech to check the resistance on the wires and replace that multi-pin connector and the actual terminals on that wires. That one female terminal looked loose and further back in the connector.
Our service trailer has an air compressor on it... bet yours does too. It works great for tires that are low... you just pull right up to the tire... and fill it up. No need to go to to town...
I was picking rocks with skid loader. Cleared some trees, then pulled few small ones…. Wound up bending the rock bucket.
Lets not forget that planter had a building fall on top of it. Some wires are probably pinched and sometimes when the planter flexes it creates high resistance or an open circuit. Its not always the sensor, it could be the 5v reference, signal wire, or the ground.
Wiring problem after a tornado. Gotta chase it. Sounds like grounding problems. Don't care what color planter or tractor have problems like that. Our second planter is green and the tractor is red, the left turn signal stays on up on the tractor, not blinking just solid on. Yes all you ppl going to say mixed color of machines but it works. Doesn't affect planting, it's just on go with it.
I know problems are frustrating and the weather has been awful this spring but try to remember you have equipment a lot of farmers would love to have. Thanks for sponsoring the farm rescue and all the good things you do to promote agriculture. Hug the kids and kiss the wife and know better days are ahead!
Grapple bucket for the skid steer works great for grabbing down trees...do it all the time.
As a fellow farmer would say. “Some day Feathers and Some days Chicken “
Lately you have had lots of Feather Days
I am a big fan of this channel. I used to work for a farmer for years and loved it. Life went other ways and I had to change careers. In regards to the crusting with your beans we experienced the same thing. We used the planter as a rotary hoe. Basically the front tines of the planter were the rotory hoe. And we used it to break up the crust. It worked well. Might be a quick and semi easy thing to try. Thanks for letting me experience farming again through your channel.
dielectric grease would definitely solve and prevent a multitude of the connection issues... Forgot to add I thank you for showing us literally the struggles of farming and all you do to overcome them, and yet still continue year after year growing food/product..
Our planter was seconhand now its 3rdhand I was so glad it's gone. Not all that is new is good .....so true
Those downforce sensors are a common issue this year. All has to do with the connection immediately off of the sensor itself. Fill that round connection with dielectric grease!! We have had amazing luck with that being the fix! DIELECTRIC GREASE!
Even though everyone tries to take the easy route at times we are often reminded it can be quicker and cause less problems to follow the tried and true method. This is in relation to the flat tire and moving trees segments. I was just cringing while watching the moving trees portion between that large tree and your relatively new tractor.
You and me both 😂
You have more patience than I ever do with equipment I would’ve lost my cool a long time ago another great video bud
Just hope the planter makes it through the rest of the seeding. You have a lot more understanding than I would.
Everybody in my area are getting rid of the green planter because of all the sensor/wiring issues. They got too complicated. Most here are switching to blue (Kenzi). We are getting excellent stands with very little downtime.
Absolutely switch try those early riser planters they are very good reliable planters
Kinze
@@Thebigtipper101 We run 2 late model early-risers, 24-22's, they go for days without problems, but when they have one, it's easy to find and fix. They don't have the individual row down pressure system Zack has on his planter, just air bags on each row that run a set pressure for all of them. My cousins bought the new Deere planter just like Zack's and it ran all spring at 8 mph with no problems, so when it works, it works.
I know exactly what you are saying because we use an early riser planter also but we also use a DB 90 planter in my opinion I don't think high speed planters are the way to go
And here's a report from our on-the spot weatherman Zack: "It's going to rain . . . Or not." Accurate. And priceless. "Nothing runs like a deer . . . or . . ."
Farming, nothing but frustration and hard work coupled with components that don’t work as advertised.
Maximum respect to you and all farmers.
A trick to inflate a de-beaded tire: lift the tire off the ground and wrap a tensioning strap around the circumference of the tire in near thread center position. Tighten the tensioning strap to move the tire beads to mate with the rim. When the tire starts to accept air, then loosen the tensioning strap and continue inflating. I have personally used ratcheting load straps as the tensioning strap. This technique has been used tires upto semi-truck tires. This technique should work on larger tires, but may need logging chain f and binder for tensioning strap.
Done that with ATV and wheelbarrow tires
planter issues looks like a harness issue it might be pinched in a couple of places or has flex breaks in it
I've had good luck over the years using aerosol contact cleaners and corrosion inhibitors on various pieces of electrical equipment. Cameras, stereos, speakers, flashlights, just about anything that runs on "low" voltage. Too many brands to remember, but they all worked basically the same. Shoot it with the cleaner to rinse off gunk and let it dry for a minute. Then hit it with the corrosion inhibitor and let that dry. The corrosion inhibitor is more important than you might think, because on these low voltage systems anything less than a perfect low resistance connection results in a voltage drop at the connection. A couple of those and suddenly the sensor won't function due to low voltage.
So many things gone wrong this season and still pushing through for just that little bit of hope for a decent harvest, I couldn't even dream of perseverance like that
She couldn’t go get her Kids because she needed to do her other job of warning everyone the Tractor’s about to move! 😏❤️✌🏼
I am pretty new to this channel, but absolutely love it! Keep up the good work! 💪🏻
Just a suggestion. Dielectric grease might help with the connections.
Our seed tender is old and reliable, a gravity wagon, a bathtub and a pail. Just add a bit of muscle.
That rain compaction/crust is always way worse on bare soil that has been flat rolled. Rolling before planting or using a ring roller (Cambridge roller) will stop it from happening. If you have ring rollers your side of the pond 👍🏻
those will get used in my area, usually pulled behind a disk to help break up clods, but guys will pull them over a cotton field after a rain if the cotton hasnt come up yet, to break up that crust
I dont think that planter is long for this farm. Zack looks about ready to go office space on it.
We appreciate the work and effort you put in everything especially the things you share with us. Thank you so much for sharing us this video. We'll surely send your channel to our clients who recently bought land from us 🙂
I agree with your dad. no way you can run that planter next year
Zach you and your Dad make a great team…. At times not always easy especially when times are stressful.. I enjoy your narrative.. years ago when I was growing up on the farm the saying was, “he’s just a dumb farmer”.. well, in todays world that is the furthest thing from the truth. The technology and mechanical knowledge that is required total is beyond most peoples along with the science of growth of the food. Thank you for showing people it an be done..
Good stuff Zach hope all goes well with the beans.
Thanks for the education on how the corn and beans come up and break thru the earth !! Very interesting
Definitely going to have to do some maintenance on the electrical connections when you guys get the chance.
I love it when Zach says the neighbors are going and he pretends to speed up. And when he said "if the sensors work correctly" (sarcasm) .😂 Thank you for being patient Zach, it will soon be the end of planting and things will be better.
Yes, I agree. Plus Zach has all those lovely combine sensors to look forward to! 😄😂😄
You know the tik toc sound Holy Spirit activate that goes good with the sensors
@@tuckerhinson3761 I agree
Tip for you to re-bead tyres.
Get a ratchet strap and run it around the circumference of the tyre. Tighten it until the bead re-seats, put a little bit of air in the tyre, then release the strap. Then inflate to correct pressure. Put a spanner under the ratchet to make releasing the ratchet easier.
If they don't know that after 2 generation of farming ... don't botter explaining ! lol
Remember this is Millennial farmer, the actors just hand it off to the set crew to take to the tire shop.
Strap is a good idea (have used it on tubeless aircraft tires). To make it easy to remove when the tire starts to inflate simply set the handle so that it is close to the release point and then as the tire fills, just slap on the handle and the ratchet will release, which allows to tire to keep on filling.
@@russmatchett3430 Now that is a good idea. I shall remember that next time I need to do it. thanks.
Zach, we need a "Fu*k Row 12" t-shirt!
Good job Zack, I see you have alot pf patience which really help thanks for the explanation on what you are doing and why, stay safe ! ( from Canada )
This is Amazing!!! Zach should be a comedian 😂😂😂 hope everything is going well for ur family!!!
I know you did a massive upgrade to the planter over the winter period which probably cost a pretty penny but you now have a high speed exact emerge planter. However, after the tornado flattened the cold storage shed down onto the planter my guess is that it has suffered some damage, somewhere. Get the thing into John Deere's workshop after planting & let the experts go over it with a fine tooth comb. I believe it to be a good machine, it just took a helluva battering & needs a little TLC to put it back on track. 🙂🇬🇧
that was done right after it got pulled out of shed (sent it to JD) but obviously there is still issues.
It didn't take that bad of beating...he had problems last year too!
This isn't storm damage, it's unreliable connector design.
@@ke6gwf When you get that much rain water on the electrical components your going to experience problems. Do you know anyone that leaves their planter out in the rain when their not using it?
@@michaelpasold5083 lots of people leave their planters in the rain and snow 24/7. Not everyone has sheds to park stuff in, especially when you get to the really large sizes of planters.
It can also start raining while you are in the fields, and they get pressure washed off from time to time.
If John Deere is making a Planter with electronics that will fail because of a few days in the rain, that's a SERIOUS design flaw.
So as I said, whether it's moisture damage in the connector or mechanical failure in the connector, it's supposed to be a heavy duty vibration resistant industrial waterproof connector, and it's not doing its job, thus it's an unreliable connector design.
And the fact that one of the sockets was physically out of position shows its a connector issue, because rain would cause corrosion, not a socket out of position.
And again, a good connector would not get rain into it, and would not corrode or short out even if it did get rain into it, so this is a John Deere design issue, and not because it got some rain on it.
I love what your doing for the fire departments for your area and from what I know all over. I’m help out at a local fire department and I do run calls and go to training and I will say from the going on two years I’ve been there we’ve never had a grain bin training. I’m not sure if we don’t have the resources or if we don’t need the training. But I will say I know we’ve had calls that we need to help farmers and there are plenty in our area. I’m glad to see the support your giving to departments and volunteer companies. Keep on keepin on my guy 🤘🏼
Boy I feel your pain. Spent 4 hours on a drill having issues and ended up having the guy have to borrow the neighbors drill. Got it going but that stuff really tests everyone involved. Seems like this year is just a things are not going right year. Hang in there and good luck!
Hey Zack have you ever thought of planting a cover crop like red clover on your corn ground the same time you plant your corn? Might protect your soil better over the winter and fix some very expensive nitrogen. Also might dry out faster in the spring as it will absorb a lot of water. On the other hand it might not survive your winters? 🤷🏻♂️
I think he tried that, but due to short season cover crop didnt start growing in autumn.
It only makes sense to improve when you need to rebuild. You can get ready for the future. God Bless you and your Neighbors with a full recovery immediately in Jesus Name! 😌❤️🇺🇸🖖🏼
great video Zack. So you are having so much trouble. Good luck tomorrow. Thank you
You know what would make a great video this next winter/spring……bringing a new planter onto the farm. Something of a different color. Screw sensors!!!
Your Dad's license plate kills me every time. I am sure that is a sought after plate in MN too, must have had it for decades!
Used to not have personalized plate there. The plate stayed with the vehicle when sold. I remember as a kid from Illinois my dad looking at cars in Minnesota. I always said somebody owns it there's plates on it lol
alright, who ruined the comment section and got comments turned off on the latest video? was it the red tractor comment?
Watching you guys mussel that tire in the back made me sad 😭 lol. See I'm lazy and have a skid steer with forks so I really felt that struggle 😂☺️. Awesome video as per normal 👍👍
I have to give major credit to the actor that plays the millennial farmer, his acting is so good I almost felt like he was actually frustrated with the equipment!! Top notch acting!
I'd wonder if a more robust sensor on the planter would solve a lot of the issues. Way too many problems - the time savings gets lost.
Zack I noticed over several videos you keep getting low 5 volts to the input of some sensors. It is critical that these or any sensors get the correct voltage. So what could be the cause? Could be your power supply, but then all sensors would error. More likely you have corrosion in the sockets and pins of some connectors causing high resistance and thus lowering your 5 volts. This may have happened during the tornado with driving rains. Think of cars that get flooded and are resold, they are never the same again. Same deal with your planter, perhaps a good cleaning of all pins and sockets will fix it, depends on the extent of the corrosion. JD should have used gold plated pins & sockets at the very least. Military spec connectors are water proof nothing else is. If possible, sell the planter after the season is over. If you keep it then have all pins and sockets replaced that look bad. Then use the correct compound to clean them all. Then the correct compound to keep/displace moisture in the connectors. Then electrical tape the connector outside for good measure. (Electronics Tech 46 years & a farm raised boy).
I'm an ex-farmer (not by choice) millennial from Aus who now works and lives in the city. Watching your channel keeps me sane, keep it up.
It has got to be frustrating to be behind on planting and then have all the sensor issues but your comment about not being in a cubicle summs it all up I drive truck and they have issues also had a def sensor poop itself 150 miles from home and of course it was a week to get new one in thank goodness for rental cars and loaner trucks