Good comparison, thanks! I appreciate hearing your experience and your thought process in evaluating them. For me, the weight is a big factor. I've got a couple of pricier, but lighter and more comfortable rods, and that was the right fit for me. Everybody will have a different "right" fit, but hearing others talk through their approach is good stuff to learn from.
Yeah with the hours I put in the comfort I’d a big factor and even just the slightly lighter weight makes a huge difference over the course of a 8-13 hour day. Then the ability to do it again the next. As always really appreciate you watching!
@@MattVavrochFishing thanks for quick reply. Ready to pull trigger, debating between 2020 SWAT or for similar price getting 2 original assault sticks, surgical strike and shock and awe to cover a wider spectrum. All 9ft.
Tbh I can't really answer that because I haven't really used Croix much for musky fishing ever. I will say the action is different from what I have experienced watching other guys. use them.
Great information, Matt! I'm in the market for a rod for dive-and-rise lures and gliders. I prefer a down action, which requires a shorter rod. I'm guessing you're using more of a side action for suicks. Are you using multiple rods for bucktails, depending on blade size?
Thanks a bunch for checking it out glad you appreciated the info, for me I use two different rods for glides/DNR, but that’s just my preference. I will likely be getting a 2020 glide rod for the upcoming season in some action, I haven’t decided on what yet. As for bucktails I pretty much throw all of them on my 9’6” shock and awe, it can be a bit big for smaller bucktails but rarely do I feel like it’s too big for anything I throw. If I had all the money in the world I would likely have two different bucktail rods in 9’6” to accommodate the smaller ones. I hope that helps, let me know if you have other questions!
@@coreymead8105 I prefer the 9’6” for bucktails and swimbaits for better figure 8s, but I like the 9’ for rubber and DNR, still good 8’s but not as much rod to move on each pull/rip.
Awesome video I have a quick question...you think these rods would be overkill for pike? I'd like to throw some bulldogs this year...been going to clay lake for 25 years and wanted to try a new setup for casting...any info would be awesome!
I think they would be great for pike, I would just downsize the action to maybe a swat or surgical strike depending on the top end of the pike, I mean if you are targeting pike that are over 20 pounds then any of the gear I use would work great. Hopefully that makes sense and answers your question!
I'm making it a point to start a movement to start saying telescopic correct like tele-scope-ing not Tele-scahp-ing dunno why it's a pet peeve and everyone except Brian seems to say it wrong. But on to the point of the video I just got my first of the original green ones in 9 ft shock and awe telescoping with the revolution reel seat and I absolutely love it. I'm actually kind of surprised to hear you say they're heavy rod I used to put in 12 hour days on my bulldawg rods and no joke those are like twice the weight of the green assault sticks. I guess that's not the worst though because it makes everything else seem super light LMFAO. I did get to fight my pb on the shock and awe and it performed beautifully, I was shocked to see how much of a bend that fish put into that rod it was very impressive. I will say I regret letting Rick talk me out of a 9'6 I think that extra 6in is huge when throwing rubber especially heavy rubber
I should say they are heavy compared to the 2020 lol. I appreciate you watching as always! Personally I really like just the 9’ for rubber, less rod to move in order to move the bait, but I do use a 9’6” for bucktails. I bet that revo seat really helps with fatigue as well. I have yet to try one, but I’m sure they are fantastic.
Good comparison, thanks! I appreciate hearing your experience and your thought process in evaluating them. For me, the weight is a big factor. I've got a couple of pricier, but lighter and more comfortable rods, and that was the right fit for me. Everybody will have a different "right" fit, but hearing others talk through their approach is good stuff to learn from.
Yeah with the hours I put in the comfort I’d a big factor and even just the slightly lighter weight makes a huge difference over the course of a 8-13 hour day. Then the ability to do it again the next. As always really appreciate you watching!
Does the shimano tranx fit well in the reel seats of these rods?
Yup, fits wonderfully, I use them on most of my rods. 400 I used and I have several friends that use the 500. Thanks for watching!
@@MattVavrochFishing thanks for quick reply. Ready to pull trigger, debating between 2020 SWAT or for similar price getting 2 original assault sticks, surgical strike and shock and awe to cover a wider spectrum. All 9ft.
The only question is how does the Assault Sticks compare to the St. Croix Legend Elite musky series?
Tbh I can't really answer that because I haven't really used Croix much for musky fishing ever. I will say the action is different from what I have experienced watching other guys. use them.
Great information, Matt! I'm in the market for a rod for dive-and-rise lures and gliders. I prefer a down action, which requires a shorter rod. I'm guessing you're using more of a side action for suicks. Are you using multiple rods for bucktails, depending on blade size?
Thanks a bunch for checking it out glad you appreciated the info, for me I use two different rods for glides/DNR, but that’s just my preference. I will likely be getting a 2020 glide rod for the upcoming season in some action, I haven’t decided on what yet. As for bucktails I pretty much throw all of them on my 9’6” shock and awe, it can be a bit big for smaller bucktails but rarely do I feel like it’s too big for anything I throw. If I had all the money in the world I would likely have two different bucktail rods in 9’6” to accommodate the smaller ones. I hope that helps, let me know if you have other questions!
@@MattVavrochFishing So you prefer the 9'6" over 9'0" rods? For wider figure 8 and/or better casting?
Corey, I like the 8'6" for dnr and I do a down action with that type of bait. I would suggest the swat or shock and awe for that presentation.
@@coreymead8105 I prefer the 9’6” for bucktails and swimbaits for better figure 8s, but I like the 9’ for rubber and DNR, still good 8’s but not as much rod to move on each pull/rip.
@@54orbust good info, it also depends on how your boat sits in the water, my bow sits high so I don’t have to worry about slapping as much as others.
Great info!
Thanks dude, really appreciate you watching!
Awesome video I have a quick question...you think these rods would be overkill for pike? I'd like to throw some bulldogs this year...been going to clay lake for 25 years and wanted to try a new setup for casting...any info would be awesome!
I think they would be great for pike, I would just downsize the action to maybe a swat or surgical strike depending on the top end of the pike, I mean if you are targeting pike that are over 20 pounds then any of the gear I use would work great. Hopefully that makes sense and answers your question!
I'm making it a point to start a movement to start saying telescopic correct like tele-scope-ing not
Tele-scahp-ing dunno why it's a pet peeve and everyone except Brian seems to say it wrong. But on to the point of the video I just got my first of the original green ones in 9 ft shock and awe telescoping with the revolution reel seat and I absolutely love it. I'm actually kind of surprised to hear you say they're heavy rod I used to put in 12 hour days on my bulldawg rods and no joke those are like twice the weight of the green assault sticks. I guess that's not the worst though because it makes everything else seem super light LMFAO. I did get to fight my pb on the shock and awe and it performed beautifully, I was shocked to see how much of a bend that fish put into that rod it was very impressive. I will say I regret letting Rick talk me out of a 9'6 I think that extra 6in is huge when throwing rubber especially heavy rubber
I should say they are heavy compared to the 2020 lol. I appreciate you watching as always! Personally I really like just the 9’ for rubber, less rod to move in order to move the bait, but I do use a 9’6” for bucktails. I bet that revo seat really helps with fatigue as well. I have yet to try one, but I’m sure they are fantastic.
I wasted my money and found out these rods are garbage.
That’s just plain not true. If you have issues with them shoot Chaos an email and Vince or Trevor will get you taken care of.