How To Use Echo & Delay Sounds On Guitar [In Your Band]
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Don’t know where to start with delay? Try doubling, slapback, dotted 8th and more - with and without the band!
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Welcome to the show! Here are some delay sounds to try even if you’re not in a band… but definitely if you are! Lots of people have been asking us what happens when you’re joined by bass and drums: what happens to those lovely delay textures in a band mix?
We’ll look at six approaches ranging for very short, to very long delays. We demonstrate doubling, slapback, multi-head, modulated, dotted 8th and looooong repeats to really help you dial those tones and spur ideas of your own.
Massive thanks to Dougie Mussard for being such a wonderful human and playing the tubs for us.
How did we record the band?
The drums are mic’d in the Glyn Johns method (Neumann TLM102 as the overheads), plus an extra snare mic (Beyerdynamic M201) underneath. The bass is DI’d via an Amped SVT DI (full bass rig below), the guitar cabs are mic’d as usual (with Austrian Audio OC18), plus our stereo room mics (AKGC414XL). There’s plenty of spill all around the mics in the room and we kinda love it.
Everything hits our UA Apollo interfaces for recording and I mixed it (Mick here) using Universal Audio Luna.
Enjoy the video!
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
0:00 Intro & playing
3:00 What are we doing today?
4:10 Today’s pedalboard
5:08 Sound 1 - 40ms Doubling Delay
6:45 40ms doubling delay with band
8:14 Sound 2 - 120ms Slapback Echo
12:07 120ms slapback echo with band
14:30 Sound 3 - FourHead Echorec Style Delay
18:43 Four head delay with band
20:55 Sound 4 - Mick’s Do-It-All 335ms
25:46: Mick’s Do-It-All 335ms with band
28:09 Sound 5 - Dotted 8th Delay
31:25 Dotted 8th Delay with band
34:25: Sound 6 - Really Long Delay
38:12 Really Long Delay with band
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Pedals & stuff used this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
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• Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
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• Nobels ODR-1 Natural Overdrive
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• Boss BD-2w Blues Driver
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• Boss DD-200 Digital Delay
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• Keeley Hydra Reverb & Tremolo
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• TheGigRig Humdinger
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• TheGigRig G3
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Bass board
• Source Audio Spectrum Intelligent Filter
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• Ampeg Scrambler Bass Overdrive
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• Ampeg Opto Bass Compressor
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• Jam Pedals Ripply Fall (for chorus)
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• Ampeg SVT DI
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Guitars in this episode:
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
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• Epiphone Casino - Mick’s video here: • Epiphone Casino Pickup...
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - Mick’s video here: • Gibson Memphis 1958 ES...
• Fender Player Precision Bass
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Amps in this episode
• Supro Black Magick 1x12 combo with standard speaker
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• Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb reissue with standard speaker
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• Wallace AC5075 XT/FV MKII with Zilla Custom 2x10 / Celestion Alnico Gold & Zilla Custom 1x12 / WGS12L
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I have to say, Mick’s playing during the examples was amazing! The slap back example on the Casino was jaw dropping.
Thank you Alexander!
coupled with Dan's bass playing
Is this the Ying to Dans' Tele Yang?
This. Plus Dan beaming in that one while grooving away on the bass was wholesome content 🥹😄
I love how you guys are getting back to your roots, with instructive content and with accessible gear that most of us can relate to. So good!
Hear hear, and bring back Pick n Mix!
Yeah true. Bring an OCD into the mix too.
I too am glad for that, and Dan is teasing Mick's ocd with his scratchy volume control, lol. Great playing, nice to see a guitar player not pluck the bass strings hard like a guitar player usually does. :)
Keep showing the best gear and the smart gear that aint painful expensive. Both worlds have tone gems. Love the show since day one.
+1 from me! I saw the contents by timestamp and thought hell yeah, we're doing practical TPS
Genius. So great to see and *hear* real-life , in-band applications of these effects we love so much.
And incidentally, that Gold Top into the ODR-1 and BD2 combo (into these 2 amps), with or without delay…Pure. Unadulterated. Magic.
Also - Mick’s shoes rock. That is all.
Exceptional video! The band segments looked and sounded especially fantastic. 3D sound and vision, I felt like I was in the room. These band (context) segments take it to the next level. I appreciate the time and effort you take to deliver such a quality product. Cheers!!!
Thanks so much Rob!
YES! Love it. The best TPS videos have Dan yelling “YEAH!!!!” so loud the amp (& drum) mics hear him. Great content, super helpful, and Doug is awesome!
You guys deserve a cut of all DD200 sales after this video 😂 showed off the pedal brilliantly
This episode style needs to continue. Fantastic playing and perfect mixing, I felt like I was there with you guys.
Thanks so much Johnny! We really want to do more of this stuff. Sooooo much to talk about and demo. :0)
I couldn’t agree more- this way of incorporating a band context is soooo helpful! The Pedal Show Band returns with… fill in the sound
I've been watching for a long time, but I had no idea Mick could play like that. So much touch. So much feel. So much soul. Really really enjoyed that.
Hey, super cool episode today! I think you nailed the format this time around - first illustrating the sound and then applying it to the band context, in short examples. Awesome tones and great playing from everybody.
Shout out to Doug for holding down the fort and allowing us to get these episodes.
As someone who has a side-nerd-love for rockabilly and that vibe, hearing Mick with that hollow body and the slap back with the band brought a HUGE smile to my face
Thank you! SOooo much fun!
I love, love, love, _LOVE_ the new _In Your Band_ series, guys. Now you can go back in time and select all the gold in the same context. I'm holding out for the "How to use ring modulation and octave fuzz in love ballads" episode. That'll be gold. BTW, Mick, I noticed you lads hit 108 dB on the meter with the Casino and not even a hint of howl. That suggests a band at reasonable volumes can easily get away with a hollow body in the mix. Nice to see I have another excuse to buy a guitar. "But, honey! I need ALL the TONEZ!" 🤣☺️
These episodes are instant favorites. Immensely enlightening and tons of fun. Can't wait to take a few of these tweaks for a spin! Also: big ups to The Freshness, as Dougie's American fans know him. We tried calling him "D-Dawg" but it was maybe a bit too yoga-centric, and "Adho Mukha Shvanasana" seemed a mouthful.
I came for the delay, and stayed for That Dougie Show - always appreciate what he adds
Yaaaaassssss! Finally! This has been on my wanted list for so long. Getting at least a dozen views from me alone, this!
And Dan, that Buckley intro made every hair on the back of my neck stand on end.
Love you guys!
Man you guys sounds great together. Amazing how much some drums add. I need a living room drummer lol.
These jams sound great don't they - I think just bass and drums leave so much room to improvise...., particularly with delay! 🙂
Search youtube you can find backing tracks to play along to.
@@victormaniaci2104 Right will it make me sound good lol?
This episode is making my trek from Acoutic guitar to eletric less stressful. I play mostly in church and the last jam is very close the style we play in. I'm using an analog delay... because right now I have to go direct into the pa. But we are playing around with smaller t amps on the side to see if we can make it work...even the keyboard player. Our pastor seems to dig it. He reminds us often that our church has a lot of former 'Dead Heads' in it and to not be afriad of getting a little loud. Thanks so much guys... I will be shareing this one with the team.
Use a simplifier instead of an amp. Build a good board to go with it. Keep stage volume to a minimum. It really helps. Let the sound guy take of the rest as long as he/she is good at what they do! Take it from a "dead head" who plays in church and loves loud. I routinely run our service at or around 100db and it sounds amazing
Worship leader here. Try a Strymon Iridium. Worth it.
Fantastic video, love the format and whilst I enjoy just listening to the two of you noodling away, the reality is context is everything and demonstrating these principles and sounds in a way that makes them applicable is so valuable. Great job lads.
Thanks Chris 🙏
Huge thumbs up for "in a band" type videos / tutorials, would love many of this type of videos.
Dudes! This is a true gem as to why delay is such a BIG thing. Thanks and please, moar of these!!! Awesome playing to everyone really!
Round 1 - doubling: My DD-7 is always-on for this, but with a slightly longer delay.
Round 2 - slap back: Very well played, Mick!
Round 3 - multi-head: YEAH! This is where the Gilmour in us comes out.
Round 4 - long 1.5 delay: Yes! Used to hate delay, but this is awesome for lead.
Round 5 - dotted eights: All hail the mighty Dougie! Also, very well played, Dan! Flawless timing by all of you!
Round 6 - massively long delays: Very cool, but it takes a Dan to pull it off :-)
The dual head “c” setting on the El Cap is my current favorite “always on” setting for my guitar. Have very few repeats with a more slap back feel but it adds saturation, ambience and texture.
This is your best video yet guys!!! Love the jams!
El Cap is still so good it's ridiculous.
I really dig the band context, always fun to see people jamming together : )
Guitars, okay after all those years we expected such greatness. However, you guys are really nailing it on bass! I’m impressed.
Effing brilliant episode, chaps! Sterling playing. Hope we get to see/hear the three of you again soon.
Excellent episode, very real world. I love that DD-200 and Nobles. Just mint. You guys are awesome, thank you for sharing with us all your brilliantness!
Mick had the rockabilly thing in full force - great tone, just amazing. The band is just drumhead tight. What a treat!
Enjoyable episode. Really handy for people new to a delay pedal.
I know what a bugger it is when you get a scratchy pot. And such a shame that the other guitars you guys have were broken too! Uncanny!
Love you chaps. ; )
Great episode - makes such a difference hearing the effects in a band context. Cool band, too :-) Big props to Dougie, and to you both for making the examples so cool and musical (and tight!).
Great video! Love the context! The playing is fantastic as well!
Great playing gents!! Dan’s face of pure joy when playing bass. You guys are super tight as a band and the. There was the tones and playing as always. Loved it Gents!!
It's the 'Yeah!' that gets picked up in the room/drum mics that takes you back to why we do this in the first place...
Love Mick´s Lead Tone with the ES at 25:57... Awesome playing and phrasing. Great Call and response. The ODS 1 and the the Blues Driver stack really well
Great great show. One of the most musical and useful in the long history of TPS. Waited years for the “in the mix” sounds. can’t wait to see more in this style. It’s both a return to a simple and instructive show, but also a massive technical challenge I’m sure. Thanks guys for continuing to push yourselves to do challenging stuff.
Thank you Sunil. In the end it was much simpler than I thought it would be. Few mics, have a hit, bit of mixing. Happy days!
Wow, Dan, that last playing section was absolutely freaking awesome. Absolutely incredible. I loved, well, all of that. The rest of the show was amazing aswell. Can't wait for more shows like this, it was that perfect blend between sitting and chatting about pedals, and putting them into context.
Cheers mate 🤓🙏
I love all of your videos, but this is by far the best one I’ve seen in a long time. The look of sheer joy on Dan’s face when slappin’ the bass makes it that much better! Gonna try out some of those settings on my DD-200 now
Lovely lovely stuff gents. Love the videos as always, with great playing and great tones.
I love Micks' rendition of Slayers' Seasons in the Abyss with the 4 head delay... Seriously though, such an inspirational episode as always. Will go straight home and fiddle with my delay pedals after watching this. Well done lads!!
I had to check if my cd player was still playing...
Hahahahha!!!
I heard it too! I was waiting for Mick to go to the fast bit but it never went there… 😃
I was hearing tones from Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath" right away.
Loving the comedy at the beginning but the context of this show today is spot ON
These videos demonstrating the effects in a mix are brilliant. Really informative and also a great way to show off your fantastic playing.
Thanks Matt! Both Dan and I need to actually play a bit more to keep our brains in relatively good shape. It’s great to be almost making music again!
Just what I needed today! Have a great weekend guys 👍🏻
You guys make a great combo with the drums and alternating bass! Some cool vibes going on! Thanks!
love this concept
Excellent !! Great lectures and even better jams !! I'm going to replay this one.
That was freaking great!! I struggle with delay and this was immensely helpful. I realize now I am being too heavy handed because I am mainly playing with backing tracks right now due to Covid and my own health issues. Dialed it back and the tones came back. Love love love this format. Thanks again guys!
Great practical video.
Also great to see the odr-1 getting so much love
Thanks for years of great content, TPS!
Dan’s intro piece in this video was absolutely beautiful. Great video, very useful info. Cheers!
I’m really digging the new format where you play in the band context!!! Putting things into full sonic context is the ultimate example!!! Thanks 🙏🏽
THank you Charles. We shall continue doing this!
Awesome playings, you are killers, beautiful ! Thanks guys
I think this format works really well. Way to go guys!
That Casino sounds bloody awesome. Love these band based show formats, really interesting - keep up the great work chaps!
Thank you! It’s turned into a corker of a guitar with the new pups. :0)
OMG what a fantastic and inspriing episode. You all played like masters and it was so glorious. Thank you so much. I want a whole album of these jams. Fantastic!!! I am trying not to complain that the show is not more than an hour. Love you boys.
Thank you so much!
Loving these 'band' episodes, so much great info in how to incorporate different sounds into a group context, fascinating :D
I genuinely think these are some of the best guitar sounds you've had on the show in all the years I've been an avid listener, and all with easily access gear! I don know what it was like in the room but it's sound banging through cans! Love it! Cracking episode. Top Friday night viewing!
THanks so much Joseph!
Awesome video guys, loved it.
Thank you guys !! I have the DD-200 and the ODR1 on my board and this was extremely helpful for me. I also have the stereo Mimiq that does the 40ms version , but the other settings are awesome. I actually put the slapback 120ms , the 4-head , and Mick's go-to , and dotted 1/8th settings into my DD-200 taking up all 4 of my presets. It is now a very useful tool and I Love it !! Thanks again, you guys rock !
The band demos are what made this video awesome. I think you guys should do more examples of band interaction to give context! Excellent work
Really enjoying the band dimension to the show guys. Great stuff 👍🏼🎸
That last little jam was mmmm ... mmmm... good . Bravo
You guys are fun, knowledgeable, and really good musicians. Love hearing a rhythm section. Been watching for a few years now.
Lads lads lads. 💥🤘👍 awesome work. These context sessions are super helpful. And The Doug Miester brings joy to all your faces as well as mine. What a gent.
That was amazing! The echorec style jam was killer! Thank you so much for the amazing content.
Great. So great to see and hear in a band context 😊
Excellent episode, gentlemen! Thanks especially for Dougie’s contribution, and all the excellent playing by you all.
That DD-200 is the best all ‘rounder, still, for my money.
Wow I have never tried the double tracking trick before with my delay. My new favorite sound! Thank you so much for putting the extra effort into making these episodes!!
I really like the combination of the pedals on their own and then in the band context. It provides a much wider learning scope and path. Thank you kindly gentlemen.
This series you guys are doing with a band situation is just fantastic! I’m off to try my first tele and first vintage spec guitar at the same time! Dan would be proud! American vintage 52 re
Niiiiice!
Having just brought a Timeline, this video has a treasure chest of great ideas on how to incorporate the delay into our set lists! And once the G3 arrives, I am off to the races. So great to see you guys playing with the ideas presented
Another fab video. Big thumbs up
Loved the show...putting delay into context with bass and drums...BRILLIANT!!! and you guys look like your having fun. Great show keep up the great work. Cheers Marty from Melbourne 🇦🇺
Nice Episode, thanks Gents. And very cool drumming!
Yes! Love that gold top!!
Got to get the Edge on here to demonstrate his style… great episode guys. I don’t know how you keep coming up with more great ideas but keep it it up!
Loved the rendition of Slayer’s ‘Seasons in the abyss’ at the 20 minute mark 😋👌
Really cool guys, great to hear these ideas in context, killer playing and quite an awesome mix!
Thanks Matt!
Hands down, best tones I've heard on TPS. Great job guys.
THank you kindly!
I LOVE that you include the band examples!!! please stick with it! :)
You 3 are such experienced players, these arrangements/performances allow everyone space. I'm reminded that what we don't play can be as important as what we do play. You 3 are great listeners too. Lots of lessons lie hidden in these performances. Truly inspiring!
Dont playing in rythm in band context is pretty damn hard.
Thank you Rob, that's very kind of you to say! You make pretty much the ENTIRE point of sounding okay as a band: listen and play together. 90 per cent of tone 'problems' are solved right there. Cheers!
Although I've never played in a band, I can really appreciate the subject content. Nicely presented and great tone all around! Cheers from Michigan!
Fascinating video guys. Really useful.
I like all your vids guys but I particularly enjoyed this one! Hearing the band playing brings it all together. :)
I have been watching your show from the start and this is great. Good idea to add drums. You are taking it to the next level!!! Cheers!
I have a BOSS DD-200 and it really is amazing, so versatile in that the settings I mainly use are not even mentioned in your vid. The SHIMMER, PAD and TERO echo settings create an abundance of ambient accents and reverberating resonances. And plugging in a footswitch can let you hold the sound (the last chord played) or even do that WARP or TWIST effect which can add a great touch now and then.
Freakin love these in your band series ❤ please do more of these !! 🎉
Always entertaining, always educational. Thanks fellas!
As you promised! Awesome video, thank you
Your drummers timing is perfect. I really enjoy these band videos
Man, What a great channel. You two do a fantastic job. Never stop.
Thanks so much Matthew!
I bought a line 6 echo pro 20 years ago and Im still actively trying to learn to use it, this video is already helping me to get more use out of it, thanks.
Splendid teaching. Thank you. Another subject I now have a greater understanding of thanks to you guys and your excellent show.
Really excited when I saw this. I just bought the dd 200 the other week and am trying to put it to work in my new band. I new it would be a good episode with the spinal tap reference at the start! Great vid loads of useful tips as always. thanks guys 👍
Great playing all round here! Mick your solo on the tape setting 24:50 was exceptional, a masterclass in taste, melodic development and grit.
Perfect episode, enjoyed it a lot. Thanks guys 👌
Awesome episode!!!! Please do more “band” setting type stuff. It was an absolute joy to hear you guys play in that context. Cheers!
Love you guys playing together 🎶👌🏽 epic 🙌🏽
Thanks Daniel 🤓🙏
Loved the entire show, but man alive, Dan's feeling on the long delay jam was just out of this world!! Cheers, mates!!!
Thanks Andre 🤓🙏
Great episode. Great episode. Great episode. Great episode…
The show is getting better with each part:. ) popcorn out. Doug is great
Slapback Boogie was gorgeous. Great playing all around!
Intro was epic!!! Love it 😃