@@miniwargaming - Brent is always working hard, grinding away and keeping tabs on the competition... I'm mean the community. This is a joke. We all know that most of our various hobby/gaming creators watch, interact and collaborate with each other for the benefit of themselves, an more importantly the community and the hobby/games we love.
Haven't even had time to play an AoS 2nd edition game yet. Or 9th edition 40k. By the time you collect and paint an army and learn the rules, a three year rotation is a "blink of an eye."
I have core rules and battletomes for AoS 2nd and have never played either. I got maybe 20 games of 40k in total before the pandemic and the edition change. As a result, I’m done buying books from GW unless I have an army ready to play said game, and the time to dedicate to it. The edition churn is too much to keep up with.
You're not wrong. Fortunately books don't go out of date and can still be played 20 years from now. Which is about the same time it takes me to finish an army lol 🤷🏼♂️ Always good to see rules improving tho.
They would look good as LOTR orcs but seem to miss the satire on British football hooligans and their culture. Its their personality and humour is what makes orks fun to play.
The WHC site seems to be suggesting that Dominion is similar to Indomitus - the "expensive fancy" box that's limited run. Later on, the S/M/L starter boxes will be released and be the more readily available sets at your FLGS.
9th and 3rd edition need to last longer than 3 years....its just too often at this point, especially when these new generations are so similar to last gen
I'm so tired of constantly changing books and manuals that in 40k we went back to the excellent 3rd edition with friends and in fantasy we play Warmaster Revolution (printed models are beautiful) and 6th edition WFB. No FAQ, no worrying about how long the book will last or how useless the models from the collection will become.
@@AirsoftAddicted I would be all for that, but everyone around here is addicted to having the "new shiny". They are clever enough to include enough enticing new models for every faction go get people to go along with their ratrace.
The frustrating thing is that, as soon as everyone gets a codex/battletome for the current edition, they release a big new edition and the churn starts all over again.
I've recently discovered your channel and just wanted to say thanks for all of the detailed insight into everything 40k, Sigmar, and more. As a single dad with two kids I never thought I could financially ever get into this hobby but thanks to your videos on cheap / easy Kill Team and Warcry builds I realized that I can set enough aside to finally join in! =]
@@PheonixKnght My 9 year old is so excited. My 3 year old is gonna have a field day so I'll have to get some extra figures that she can just go to town on.
Just picked up this box for $120 sealed. Couldnt find it on the GW website, but still some for sale on amazon. I still haven't finished my dang blood angel army but couldnt pass up the price for so much plastic. After hearing how next month most prices are going up and how annoyed I am with GW prices to begin with I figured I mine as well take a good deal while I could find one.
Yeah this box went down to 99 euro at a local webshop here in The Netherlands. Im really tempted because it just seems an outragous deal for 60 models and a 360 page hardcover book. Its just that I really dont have any connection with the Age of Sigmar stuff. I mean, I actually really thinking if I would bother to assemble and paint these, even if I got them for free. I just dont feel that itch to get into AoS for some reason. The orks look kinda cool, but these Stormcast guys seem terribly generic. All the lore seems so forced, artificial and convoluted. Just way too far from the all the "High Fantasy" principles to a point its just all a bit meaningless. I just wish we had old Warhammer Fantasy back I know and love from my youth, and these were just regular orcs and empire armies or something, with updated visuals and rules, then I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
@@ageoflove1980 I'm not into AOS either but figured at least I'd have 2 basic armys to toy around with playing. Dont plan to expand the collection. I managed to get them all assembled and ready for primer, but put my main focus on my BA army which has tripled in size since I made this post. I have over 7,500 points of BA to still finish painting before I even care to finish this box.
I am officially excited for this box. I wasn't sold on the new Orks, but they have definitely grown on me. At least certain ones have. The new Stormcast I think are phenomenal. MUCH better proportions.
Thank you Uncle Atom, always honest, transparent and to the point, I appreciate the time you took to get this video out, it looks like it is going to be an awesome box set!
I really love that the big book is full of story, art and background. After seeing GW start hawking the box, I was expecting it, but it's still nice to see. I'm also glad that it sorta seems like they're going heavy on campaigns as well. Crusade is an awesome way to play 40k and if they're now treating Path to Glory as more than an afterthought, I'm all for it.
Regarding the new ork look, I remember seeing an interview with a GW employee way back when they first started making LOTR minis. He mentioned that LOTR had made them better at designing minis in general, because suddenly they had to learn make a tiny Aragorn that needed to look like a real person, and be recognizable as Viggo Mortinsen's character. This gave them a challenge that Warhammer had not up to that time, and taught them techniques about realism. They continue to refine their art all the time. I actually like the new look.
I just got my print copy of rain and hell and I have to say it very nice book, I've already been going over the rules and it will be fun when me and my friends get are demons done
I like the new Orks they are from a swampy area so should look a little different and it's nice to have the variety, I just see them as a return of the Hobgoblins from earlier Warhammer editions.
The bold text and laidout are propably taken from various OSR RPG books. They popularised that style in recent years and some are a pure pleasure to read.
Sorry I'm an Ironjawz player all the way. I love the goofy look to them and it matched the aesthetic that they started with. This new direction is leaning towards old Fantasy and that isn't AOS.
I hope to Gork and Mork Greenskins don't lose their humor. That's why they're so awesome. They're just loving the hell out of their violent lives. But I'm fine with more true to scale look as long as my goblin/Gretchen/grots are still mischievous and joyously murderous and/or suicidal.
They won’t. The old orks are representations of mork while the kruleboiz are the first orks to represent gork which is the reason for the different look
I feel short and stocky designs was honestly a hangover from working in lead. The newer moulding tech and CAD modelling allows for more creative freedom. The new Vexillor with a banner is just outstanding.
I also hope they keep the cartoony ironjawz and orruk warclans. Cause i believe those guys are the brutal but cunning orks of Morka and this new orks are the cunning but brutal orks of Gorka. Just my opinion. Actual orks player will have more right of comment than i do
I agree that the old models should not be scrapped as I prefer their look VASTLY over these ratfink not-orks. They look like they belong in the Lord of the rings game
A month later and I just picked one up for almost half price at my local game store. There is a whole pile of them in the discount bin. It's a shame really, they over ordered to a crazy degree
I really like those new orks I find them scarier and creepier than the OG orks which is a plus to me. The more "goofy" OG orks are still great in their own way but I quite like the less (?) cartoony / LotR feel of these new ones. I never really wanted to start an ork army outside of wanting to make a wacky army when I'd get tired of my 1k Sons but now I might be tempted to start AoS with these orks as an army now.
Just got mine yesterday for an unbelievable price on ebay. I want to get it all built and painted before Christmas so if my nephew or niece wants to try it out then maybe we can do a simplified version
The newer models are so spindly. I got the Hive War boxed set, and parts would break before coming off the sprue, no matter how carefully I tried to snip them off.
Thanks for the look inside this box set. I really like what they are going for with this. It's just a shame it will be another limited box set. I personally won't be picking this one up due to the boxset just dropping at the wrong time for me. I'll definitely wait till the actual starter sets drop later on and get one of those at somepoint.
They mentioned during the announcement live stream that this box was designed to be a splash release, followed closely by regular releases of all the models in the box.
Hob grots and Not Quite Orcs? could they be prepping to bring Chaos Dwarfs back? I mean hobgrots are literally Hob Goblins right? hence why they look more scrawny and slightly more like elf Orc hybrids? like?
Some lore snippet I read talked about the hobgrot mysterious masters or something..... there was a Chaos dwarf in warcry.... I definitely hope for chaos dwarves in the near future.
@@mycatistypingthis5450 yeah that is my point, I am aware of the Lore, used to collect old hammer as a kid. I also have the war cry set with the Chaos dwarf in, but he is not at all in the traditional style, like the Orc Boss in this is,
Hey there! Im currently nearing the end of the video and you were mentioning about the stock. GW said that they're pre-making TONS of boxsets for dominion and said there are 'hopefully enough'... here's hoping ill be able to grab a box...
Nice overview. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get a copy for myself (hopefully they made more of them than for Hexed Hamlet). I'll need to watch other creators diving deeper into the rules, but always awesome to hear your thoughts! R.I.P. Blue Background Light
Get some feathered wings in the right size for the Stormcasts, and do an angelic "cabal" for RiH? The Stormcast models come with a solid variety of visually distinct troops that could stand in for Minions - and you have some choice for Leaders too. I consider the hero lady the perfect "Devout" for such a project. Do eet!
I like the new orc's. They look more "realistic" as much as orcs can look realistic. The new sigmarines look "better" but I'm just not a fan of the ascetic- I prefer them to look more medieval, or chivalric
I just want the individual minis from this box. The annihilators are very interesting to me. Not really a fan of hte heads having clothing attached but, a little clipping and putting a different head on there shouldn't be too hard.
Tolkien just called, he wants to have his share for the LOTR Orcs in this box. but tbh, I don't like them at all. I think that the ironjawz were perfect and I would have preferred a whole new line in their style.
I kinda get the vibe too, this looks like it would have been more at home in their LoTR game...I'm not sure I want a less cartoony (aka more 'serious' looking) fantasy war game.
Looking to dip my toes into AOS, I wanted to check out the spearhead box for the Stormcast Eternals at my local game store. The owner told me about this box, highly recommended it, and said he'd sell it for $100. Coming from 40k, I was pretty shocked at the amount of plastic I had gotten in this box, and with this box being $40 less and having pretty close to quadruple the minis, I'm pretty happy with it.
Regarding the skinny, more realistic, more scary looking Kruleboyz: my sneaky suspicion is that GW is jump aboard the D&D train. After all, if you need minis for your D&D campaign you can use AoS freeguild, skeletons, ogres, trolls, etc, etc - but the GW orcs aren't much like their D&D counterparts. These ones look a lot closer in size, build and appearance.
I don't think so. They make their new stuff at 32mm bases which is near unusable on a 25mm grid (doesn't seem right on large creatures, doesn't fit a 25mm square). They also don't want an influx of other vendors, and usually sculpt their stuff to not match that. They do fit the aesthetics of the mid to late '80's orcs very well though.
Everyone knows this will sell out to bots within 5 minutes. I highly doubt they will do a made-to-order like they did with Indomitus. I preordered Cursed City and GW canceled the store's allocation, so that is not a guarantee either. If you REALLY want this set then be prepared to pay at least double from scalpers. Thanks GW!
Just wait for the individual minis I guess, I refuse to buy from scalpers. If everyone else did the same, they'd drop the prices to MSRP super fuckin fast as they start losing money and keep buying all this expensive stuff that isn't moving... So they'd decide in a couple weeks to just recoop the costs. It's simple. People only scalp because people buy from scalpers
Tell ya a secret, indominus never sold out. GW paid a magazine to say it might have, then laughed at the FOMO buying. Every local game store in my area (8 within 45 minutes) had it in stock when everyone was waiting for the "special order"
A guy purchased all 15 copies of indomitus that my lgs ordered, 15! His credit card got declined on the day I got my friends to try warhammer and the owner let us have one of them.
About the new design style of spindly, skinny, fragile miniatures it is the way to combat piracy, because plastic has incredible properties that can't be replicated by pitare resin miniatures (or the result is so fragile that is not practical). Now modern resin 3d printing does not has those constraints...
My family, while on vacation, stumbled into a Games Workshop store a couple of years ago, by total mistake. We got interested in the whole concept and bought the Soul Wars box that day. We found the rules books so frustrating that we actually put it up for a couple of years. Eventually, watching way too many UA-cam videos we figured it out (I think) and have been playing and painting a bit. We really enjoy the models and painting, but I don't think I will ever again buy a GW rules book. If we ever decide to get into a different game, it will be from some other company.
It just took four pages to drag me back into the Warhammer thing after trying to juggle WHFB rules. Failing. It was such a great idea to squeeze all the needed rules into those 4 pages (but really, just 3 to be honest): you give us the unit-specific rules, a bunch of global rules and we do not even need to calculate the points... No extra books means you don't need to haul a ton of them with your wargaming wheelbarrow... just to get access to a couple of special abilities. And now? We're growing to 40-ish pages? To be honest I don't know the new rules but I'm sticking to the old 4 pages. I definitely smell more fun there...
They took some of the stuff that unbalanced battletomes, and made it generic here (batallions). They also did add quite a bit of complication in unit coherence and reaction though.
Thanks Uncle Atom, I'll skip the launch box for AoS 3rd Ed. (still bitter after Cursed City, Indomitus and that Sororitas box) and look forward mostly for the updated Path to Glory/Crusade rules. The most fun my gaming group had was combining the PtG rules with the Firestorm box campaign, and I just hope the system can be "ripped" free of the rulesframe without too much hassle - the proper rules previews were less than enticing.
I'm glad primaris came out because I didn't like the old marines, but I am a big supporter of older, "cartoonish" models. I really love retro colours and goofy models
I'm not sure what they could do to the story of AOS to make it hold a candlelight to Fantasy for me. But the box set looks cool, thanks for the review!
The new Kruleboyz orruks kinda remind me of the Lord of the rings orcs. I like the new sculpts, i wonder if we will see the 40 orkz get this new style.
I'm not sure if it's just me, but the Dominion set's SCE models seems to have better physical proportion compared to some of the current existing models. I personally find them much better in the eyes. Same goes for the new Orcs give a bit of LotR vibe. Different style, but also very nice.
I think I'm going to get the Sigmarine half of this box. I have the original box set Sigmarine half, so one plus one should give me an army or so right?
I stopped by my local store last week, "If I say I want a box now, do I need to say it again when the pre-orders open up?" "Nope" "Great, thanks!" So far he has never let me down, he just messaged me the price, looking forward to painting this up.
I personally don't think they are gonna change all the Orruks. The reason I say this is because Ironjaws still have the old school style, the Orruk warbands in Underworlds so far have also been relatively similar to the iconic GW style also the new Ork Boyz and Beast Snagga Orks in 40k still look like Classic GW Orks. HOWEVER, I can't speak for GW as they very often baffle me and not always in a good way so I just hope they don't Thanos snap them.
Chaos might be their baby but Orks really are the heart and soul of Warhammer. They ALWAYS were even in first edition. What GW is in danger of losing is the tongue planted in the cheek that underlies all that serious realistic shit. They would be crazy to mess with that. Young boys identify with Orks and that is that lol.
Always a pleasure to listen to Uncle Atom talk about things. Things in general. This time, it just happens to be about Dominion.
I hate miniwargaming lol.
look at this speed demon!! :-)
Looking forward to your next box review.
I see you’re making the rounds Brent ;)
@@miniwargaming - Brent is always working hard, grinding away and keeping tabs on the competition... I'm mean the community.
This is a joke. We all know that most of our various hobby/gaming creators watch, interact and collaborate with each other for the benefit of themselves, an more importantly the community and the hobby/games we love.
“Hell is a real place, and TM is a real speed demon in it” 😉.
He has no kitty to review the box.
Glad to see Reign in Hell is already setting industry trends.
Haven't even had time to play an AoS 2nd edition game yet. Or 9th edition 40k. By the time you collect and paint an army and learn the rules, a three year rotation is a "blink of an eye."
I have core rules and battletomes for AoS 2nd and have never played either. I got maybe 20 games of 40k in total before the pandemic and the edition change. As a result, I’m done buying books from GW unless I have an army ready to play said game, and the time to dedicate to it. The edition churn is too much to keep up with.
@@tinyfishhobby3138 we are out for similar reasons.
You're not wrong. Fortunately books don't go out of date and can still be played 20 years from now. Which is about the same time it takes me to finish an army lol 🤷🏼♂️ Always good to see rules improving tho.
The orks struck me as very "LOTRish." Not necessarily a bad thing.
They would look good as LOTR orcs but seem to miss the satire on British football hooligans and their culture. Its their personality and humour is what makes orks fun to play.
That’s because they’re not orcs, but hobgoblins (hobgrots)
@@OnnoMaat only the the ones with the two knives. All the others are orrukz but ones that have grown in the swamp lands.
I think I'm going to use some of the stormcast and paint them dark/gritty and use them as Judges for Reign in Hell!
Stole my idea. From my mind
The WHC site seems to be suggesting that Dominion is similar to Indomitus - the "expensive fancy" box that's limited run. Later on, the S/M/L starter boxes will be released and be the more readily available sets at your FLGS.
These won't include the characters, which GW will release separately in 8 months are 1000% markup, like Royal Court and Honored of the Chapter.
Let's hope they have Dominion "Made to Order"
@@BUSSTISEBOOST Indomitus isn't, so I'd suspect that Dominion won't be either.
@@darkowl9 there was a made-to-order wave of indomitus.
I'm aiming for the "Elite/Commander" equivalent kit. No more FOMO launch box frenzy, sorry GW, I'm too old for that game.
9th and 3rd edition need to last longer than 3 years....its just too often at this point, especially when these new generations are so similar to last gen
And you know, global pandemic! GW's pushing along as if nothing has changed in the world has *really* turned me off continuing to buy their products.
I'm so tired of constantly changing books and manuals that in 40k we went back to the excellent 3rd edition with friends and in fantasy we play Warmaster Revolution (printed models are beautiful) and 6th edition WFB. No FAQ, no worrying about how long the book will last or how useless the models from the collection will become.
@@AirsoftAddicted I would be all for that, but everyone around here is addicted to having the "new shiny". They are clever enough to include enough enticing new models for every faction go get people to go along with their ratrace.
The frustrating thing is that, as soon as everyone gets a codex/battletome for the current edition, they release a big new edition and the churn starts all over again.
@@joemagill4041 it's brutal.
Those Orruks make me very interested in Age of Sigmar. I like how they look and the personality of the minis.
I've recently discovered your channel and just wanted to say thanks for all of the detailed insight into everything 40k, Sigmar, and more.
As a single dad with two kids I never thought I could financially ever get into this hobby but thanks to your videos on cheap / easy Kill Team and Warcry builds I realized that I can set enough aside to finally join in! =]
I you can find players willing to give non-GW games a go, the hobby gets even cheaper 😉
Some kids love painting minis to.
@@PheonixKnght My 9 year old is so excited. My 3 year old is gonna have a field day so I'll have to get some extra figures that she can just go to town on.
@@minaya runewars is INSAINLY cheap right now with great models they might like that.
Just picked up this box for $120 sealed. Couldnt find it on the GW website, but still some for sale on amazon. I still haven't finished my dang blood angel army but couldnt pass up the price for so much plastic. After hearing how next month most prices are going up and how annoyed I am with GW prices to begin with I figured I mine as well take a good deal while I could find one.
Yeah this box went down to 99 euro at a local webshop here in The Netherlands. Im really tempted because it just seems an outragous deal for 60 models and a 360 page hardcover book. Its just that I really dont have any connection with the Age of Sigmar stuff. I mean, I actually really thinking if I would bother to assemble and paint these, even if I got them for free. I just dont feel that itch to get into AoS for some reason.
The orks look kinda cool, but these Stormcast guys seem terribly generic. All the lore seems so forced, artificial and convoluted. Just way too far from the all the "High Fantasy" principles to a point its just all a bit meaningless.
I just wish we had old Warhammer Fantasy back I know and love from my youth, and these were just regular orcs and empire armies or something, with updated visuals and rules, then I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
@@ageoflove1980 I'm not into AOS either but figured at least I'd have 2 basic armys to toy around with playing. Dont plan to expand the collection. I managed to get them all assembled and ready for primer, but put my main focus on my BA army which has tripled in size since I made this post. I have over 7,500 points of BA to still finish painting before I even care to finish this box.
The orcs are really pushing that LOTR vibe. Which is cool, because it opens up an avenue for conversions.
Not so much, because the LotR models are a totally different scale.
Converzion into orkz culd be an idea
@Patrick Swan
Even just giving them Gina on their bakz would work kuz der ded kunnin
I am officially excited for this box. I wasn't sold on the new Orks, but they have definitely grown on me. At least certain ones have. The new Stormcast I think are phenomenal. MUCH better proportions.
It also helps seeing them from different angles. I dunno why, but GW's product pics often seem to choose the ugliest possible angles for models.
I thought the Sacrosanct SC were *perfect*.
Thank you Uncle Atom, always honest, transparent and to the point, I appreciate the time you took to get this video out, it looks like it is going to be an awesome box set!
I really love that the big book is full of story, art and background. After seeing GW start hawking the box, I was expecting it, but it's still nice to see. I'm also glad that it sorta seems like they're going heavy on campaigns as well. Crusade is an awesome way to play 40k and if they're now treating Path to Glory as more than an afterthought, I'm all for it.
The orcs look great, they sort of reminds me of LoTR Orcs, but look forward to seeing more.
Regarding the new ork look, I remember seeing an interview with a GW employee way back when they first started making LOTR minis. He mentioned that LOTR had made them better at designing minis in general, because suddenly they had to learn make a tiny Aragorn that needed to look like a real person, and be recognizable as Viggo Mortinsen's character. This gave them a challenge that Warhammer had not up to that time, and taught them techniques about realism.
They continue to refine their art all the time. I actually like the new look.
I hope they handle this release better than Cursed City.
That bar is low enough to trip over, so it shouldn't be an issue. 😂
I doubt they do haha
@@JamesSerapio it's funny cause it's true. Also sad.
There was no such release. Never existed. There was something that looks and sounds like cursed city but that was an eBay exclusive..
@@grantfoster8833 bahaha "ebay exclusive" haha worse than Kickstarter Exclusive. Costs the same for only one box
Might be a perfect time to get into AOS for me - thanks for the heads up/review 👍
@@Big_Mike001 I recommend doing so from your local store, gw is unreliable with pre-orders of limited stuff
I just got my print copy of rain and hell and I have to say it very nice book, I've already been going over the rules and it will be fun when me and my friends get are demons done
The models are usable and believable in any game system. If I could afford it I would get a copy just to have the minis.
My LGS said $200 for the box. YMMV on value there.
I'm liking the true scale quite a bit
"Looking at you Necromunda books" haven't laughed like that in a while, thanks
I’m reading the Necromunda Rulebook and House of Blades as we speak. His criticism is completely spot on.
Yea I gave up on Necromunda. To many books and tables to look back and forth through
Oh, but the rules in it are also confusing, overpriced and spread across too many books, so the lack of contrast with the background fits that.
@@logansaxby7224 Try Stargrave
I like the new Orks they are from a swampy area so should look a little different and it's nice to have the variety, I just see them as a return of the Hobgoblins from earlier Warhammer editions.
Note for the married men, chunky is definitely not the technical term.
He said chonky, but that's worth noting anyway.
Chonki Mon-ki
The bold text and laidout are propably taken from various OSR RPG books. They popularised that style in recent years and some are a pure pleasure to read.
Sorry I'm an Ironjawz player all the way. I love the goofy look to them and it matched the aesthetic that they started with. This new direction is leaning towards old Fantasy and that isn't AOS.
The woman with wings is perfect for a living saint 40k conversion
Or a Female Sanguinius 😏
@@euansmith3699 No.
I hope to Gork and Mork Greenskins don't lose their humor. That's why they're so awesome. They're just loving the hell out of their violent lives. But I'm fine with more true to scale look as long as my goblin/Gretchen/grots are still mischievous and joyously murderous and/or suicidal.
They won’t. The old orks are representations of mork while the kruleboiz are the first orks to represent gork which is the reason for the different look
the orcs are a lot more reminiscent of the urak-hi from lord of the rings
uruk-hai but you got the spirit
That Hobgrot Space Pirate looks really cool.
I feel short and stocky designs was honestly a hangover from working in lead. The newer moulding tech and CAD modelling allows for more creative freedom. The new Vexillor with a banner is just outstanding.
I also hope they keep the cartoony ironjawz and orruk warclans. Cause i believe those guys are the brutal but cunning orks of Morka and this new orks are the cunning but brutal orks of Gorka.
Just my opinion. Actual orks player will have more right of comment than i do
Other way round mate, the current orruks are the ones who follow Gork and these new ones are the ones who follow Mork
I agree that the old models should not be scrapped as I prefer their look VASTLY over these ratfink not-orks. They look like they belong in the Lord of the rings game
O, Blue Background Light, we barely knew ye.
It’s still around, Im a 40k player and actually really tempted to give this a try
A month later and I just picked one up for almost half price at my local game store. There is a whole pile of them in the discount bin. It's a shame really, they over ordered to a crazy degree
The style of these not-orcs reminds me a whole lot of an updated remastering of classic WHFB orcs from 1st to maybe 4th ed?
Looks like Uruk-hai from LOTR to me. Might be great for those who play that game to get some extra models.
WAY too big! LOTR is proper 28mm, AoS is closer to 40mm now!
I want it so much!!! AoS was my main game before the pandemic. The Stormcast are they army that got me into the hobby.
I really like those new orks I find them scarier and creepier than the OG orks which is a plus to me. The more "goofy" OG orks are still great in their own way but I quite like the less (?) cartoony / LotR feel of these new ones. I never really wanted to start an ork army outside of wanting to make a wacky army when I'd get tired of my 1k Sons but now I might be tempted to start AoS with these orks as an army now.
If you are right about the new non-cartoonish style - I hope they will go that way with the 40K Nurgle stuff.
Just got mine yesterday for an unbelievable price on ebay. I want to get it all built and painted before Christmas so if my nephew or niece wants to try it out then maybe we can do a simplified version
The newer models are so spindly. I got the Hive War boxed set, and parts would break before coming off the sprue, no matter how carefully I tried to snip them off.
I love the Hobgrots to. Looking forward to a chaos dwarf reboot.
AoS has existed for 6 years and we are now on 3rd edition. GW is really picking up the pace on its planned obsolescence.
It's absolutely insane!
Subgenius t-shirt? That is a blast from the past.
Thanks for the look inside this box set. I really like what they are going for with this. It's just a shame it will be another limited box set. I personally won't be picking this one up due to the boxset just dropping at the wrong time for me.
I'll definitely wait till the actual starter sets drop later on and get one of those at somepoint.
Its now October and this can still be bought from GW and most shops. Limited edition doesnt sell out these days, takes months.
@@stephenbradley3153 yes I've seen them. I don't know about that though, plenty of other limited sets have sold quickly.
Yeah, I'll definitely be grabbing some Hobgrots down the road. I hope we see more Hobgrots stuff in the future.
Definitely with their "masters"; the Chaos Dwarfs.
Yeah, I'd be happy to see Chaos Dwarfs, though I'd also be happy to have an all Hobgrot force.
They mentioned during the announcement live stream that this box was designed to be a splash release, followed closely by regular releases of all the models in the box.
Just like royal court and honoured of the chapter. I.e. 8 months later, and 1000% mark-up.
Really enjoyed seeing pictures of your painted gut rippers.
Smaller skinnier models are cheaper and you can load more in an injection mold die/spru for the same cost as previous or less.
Exactly what I was thinking. It was a business decision.
Hob grots and Not Quite Orcs? could they be prepping to bring Chaos Dwarfs back? I mean hobgrots are literally Hob Goblins right? hence why they look more scrawny and slightly more like elf Orc hybrids? like?
Some lore snippet I read talked about the hobgrot mysterious masters or something..... there was a Chaos dwarf in warcry.... I definitely hope for chaos dwarves in the near future.
Chaos dwarves have ties with these hobgrots. There is a very good chance of them arriving somewhere in 3rd edition.
@@mycatistypingthis5450 yeah that is my point, I am aware of the Lore, used to collect old hammer as a kid. I also have the war cry set with the Chaos dwarf in, but he is not at all in the traditional style, like the Orc Boss in this is,
Hey there! Im currently nearing the end of the video and you were mentioning about the stock. GW said that they're pre-making TONS of boxsets for dominion and said there are 'hopefully enough'... here's hoping ill be able to grab a box...
The new Orks, remind me of the Orks from Lord of the Rings
Nice overview. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get a copy for myself (hopefully they made more of them than for Hexed Hamlet). I'll need to watch other creators diving deeper into the rules, but always awesome to hear your thoughts!
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Get some feathered wings in the right size for the Stormcasts, and do an angelic "cabal" for RiH? The Stormcast models come with a solid variety of visually distinct troops that could stand in for Minions - and you have some choice for Leaders too. I consider the hero lady the perfect "Devout" for such a project. Do eet!
They have limited most local stockist to 30 copies in the UK. We get updated on Friday about extras wanted.
I like the new orruks, I think you're right with GW going for the less cartoony look. The scaling is definitely better on the new orruks in my opinion
I like the new orc's. They look more "realistic" as much as orcs can look realistic. The new sigmarines look "better" but I'm just not a fan of the ascetic- I prefer them to look more medieval, or chivalric
Same here. This is why I am really looking forward to old world bretonnians
I just want the individual minis from this box. The annihilators are very interesting to me. Not really a fan of hte heads having clothing attached but, a little clipping and putting a different head on there shouldn't be too hard.
Woah, this is a nice suprise!
Tolkien just called, he wants to have his share for the LOTR Orcs in this box.
but tbh, I don't like them at all. I think that the ironjawz were perfect and I would have preferred a whole new line in their style.
I kinda get the vibe too, this looks like it would have been more at home in their LoTR game...I'm not sure I want a less cartoony (aka more 'serious' looking) fantasy war game.
@@jcorey2005 ah yes, "pot-grot" and " stab-grot" the epitome of seriousness
@@jcorey2005 maybe it's not about being more serious, but reflecting that they're more cunning than brutal.
Looking to dip my toes into AOS, I wanted to check out the spearhead box for the Stormcast Eternals at my local game store. The owner told me about this box, highly recommended it, and said he'd sell it for $100.
Coming from 40k, I was pretty shocked at the amount of plastic I had gotten in this box, and with this box being $40 less and having pretty close to quadruple the minis, I'm pretty happy with it.
I too enjoyed the shorter rules sets.
Love the boyz you painted
Cool! Thanks for making this. I'd love to see a video of making Vindrasta as a statue.
Regarding the skinny, more realistic, more scary looking Kruleboyz: my sneaky suspicion is that GW is jump aboard the D&D train. After all, if you need minis for your D&D campaign you can use AoS freeguild, skeletons, ogres, trolls, etc, etc - but the GW orcs aren't much like their D&D counterparts. These ones look a lot closer in size, build and appearance.
I don't think so. They make their new stuff at 32mm bases which is near unusable on a 25mm grid (doesn't seem right on large creatures, doesn't fit a 25mm square). They also don't want an influx of other vendors, and usually sculpt their stuff to not match that. They do fit the aesthetics of the mid to late '80's orcs very well though.
When the lid was removed, the sound made me do a spit-take with my coffee!!! Hilarious!😊 Great video, thank you Uncle Atom!!
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Seems like 2nd edition just came out.
as someone who doesnt play orruks, or orks. I think the new models look better. More detailed sculpts can never be a bad thing.
I play 40k personally but when I saw those orks .... ngl I kinda wanna start a new army.
Everyone knows this will sell out to bots within 5 minutes. I highly doubt they will do a made-to-order like they did with Indomitus. I preordered Cursed City and GW canceled the store's allocation, so that is not a guarantee either. If you REALLY want this set then be prepared to pay at least double from scalpers. Thanks GW!
Just wait for the individual minis I guess, I refuse to buy from scalpers. If everyone else did the same, they'd drop the prices to MSRP super fuckin fast as they start losing money and keep buying all this expensive stuff that isn't moving... So they'd decide in a couple weeks to just recoop the costs. It's simple.
People only scalp because people buy from scalpers
That said... You're dead fucking right hahaha
Tell ya a secret, indominus never sold out. GW paid a magazine to say it might have, then laughed at the FOMO buying. Every local game store in my area (8 within 45 minutes) had it in stock when everyone was waiting for the "special order"
An as old WHFB player thinking about AOS, If that happens, I'll try again when 4th edition comes out.
A guy purchased all 15 copies of indomitus that my lgs ordered, 15! His credit card got declined on the day I got my friends to try warhammer and the owner let us have one of them.
I'm getting Dark Vengeance vibes from the instruction booklet. I dig it.
The style of these models are looking more like GW's Lotr range, which for me is a good thing.
Some very cool models there! Love your paint job on them!
00:47 "Excuse me" LOL I'll have to start saying that
Looks Great! As a 40k player I probably won't hop into the game. BUT I want that ork leader to paint! It looks soooo sweet.
About the new design style of spindly, skinny, fragile miniatures it is the way to combat piracy, because plastic has incredible properties that can't be replicated by pitare resin miniatures (or the result is so fragile that is not practical). Now modern resin 3d printing does not has those constraints...
That book is beautiful! Can't wait to get it!
My family, while on vacation, stumbled into a Games Workshop store a couple of years ago, by total mistake. We got interested in the whole concept and bought the Soul Wars box that day. We found the rules books so frustrating that we actually put it up for a couple of years. Eventually, watching way too many UA-cam videos we figured it out (I think) and have been playing and painting a bit. We really enjoy the models and painting, but I don't think I will ever again buy a GW rules book. If we ever decide to get into a different game, it will be from some other company.
I've just preordered , man what a great box!
It just took four pages to drag me back into the Warhammer thing after trying to juggle WHFB rules. Failing. It was such a great idea to squeeze all the needed rules into those 4 pages (but really, just 3 to be honest): you give us the unit-specific rules, a bunch of global rules and we do not even need to calculate the points... No extra books means you don't need to haul a ton of them with your wargaming wheelbarrow... just to get access to a couple of special abilities. And now? We're growing to 40-ish pages? To be honest I don't know the new rules but I'm sticking to the old 4 pages. I definitely smell more fun there...
They took some of the stuff that unbalanced battletomes, and made it generic here (batallions). They also did add quite a bit of complication in unit coherence and reaction though.
I like the new orcs a lot
Thanks Uncle Atom, I'll skip the launch box for AoS 3rd Ed. (still bitter after Cursed City, Indomitus and that Sororitas box) and look forward mostly for the updated Path to Glory/Crusade rules.
The most fun my gaming group had was combining the PtG rules with the Firestorm box campaign, and I just hope the system can be "ripped" free of the rulesframe without too much hassle - the proper rules previews were less than enticing.
I'm glad primaris came out because I didn't like the old marines, but I am a big supporter of older, "cartoonish" models. I really love retro colours and goofy models
Any curious, and lucky enough to notice, it is on sell for £88, on official site, which is cheaper then even the discount sites.
I'm not sure what they could do to the story of AOS to make it hold a candlelight to Fantasy for me. But the box set looks cool, thanks for the review!
2 days later, Dominion still in stock at GW.
I was waiting the minute it went up after the Cursed City debacle.
The new Kruleboyz orruks kinda remind me of the Lord of the rings orcs. I like the new sculpts, i wonder if we will see the 40 orkz get this new style.
I'm not sure if it's just me, but the Dominion set's SCE models seems to have better physical proportion compared to some of the current existing models. I personally find them much better in the eyes. Same goes for the new Orcs give a bit of LotR vibe. Different style, but also very nice.
I think I'm going to get the Sigmarine half of this box. I have the original box set Sigmarine half, so one plus one should give me an army or so right?
Orruks is the word you're looking for. And I love these new orks. I've hated the goofiness of orks for so long.
I stopped by my local store last week, "If I say I want a box now, do I need to say it again when the pre-orders open up?" "Nope" "Great, thanks!" So far he has never let me down, he just messaged me the price, looking forward to painting this up.
I am on a GW break but this is so tempting nom nom nom
I hope this isnt the new way orcs will be looking. I love the ironjawz
Different tribes.
I personally don't think they are gonna change all the Orruks. The reason I say this is because Ironjaws still have the old school style, the Orruk warbands in Underworlds so far have also been relatively similar to the iconic GW style also the new Ork Boyz and Beast Snagga Orks in 40k still look like Classic GW Orks. HOWEVER, I can't speak for GW as they very often baffle me and not always in a good way so I just hope they don't Thanos snap them.
Chaos might be their baby but Orks really are the heart and soul of Warhammer. They ALWAYS were even in first edition. What GW is in danger of losing is the tongue planted in the cheek that underlies all that serious realistic shit. They would be crazy to mess with that. Young boys identify with Orks and that is that lol.
Is the size still 1.3-1.5inch bases? The older stuff was not 1inch grid
Love the look on your Gut-Rippa's! Any hint on the price?
The new orcs kinda look like “Demons” to me🤔🤫😂🤣