Five Things You SHOULDN'T Do in Your Wargaming Hobby
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- I've made mistakes in my hobby life, and you can learn from my "wisdom" - five things you shouldn't do in your miniatures wargaming hobby.
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#4 "don't be afraid to strip" great tip! Might help me afford my next AoS army
No joke, Made me spit a bit of coffee out. 😂
Lmao
My advice for anyone who is batch painting is that everyone has a number, the maximum that they can really work on at once. I found mine by starting with 5 and building up in increments of 5. Turns out my number is 5.
I've been painting minis for 20 years now, and 5 at once on my hobby desk is my preferred number as well. Thanks for being a voice of reason.
@@snackelwolf4462 I think everyone is going to have their own experience with painting, there's no one size fits all solution. Everyone prefers to learn in different ways, especially adults, and what works for one person won't work for someone else. So sometimes videos like this can seem a little prescriptive when there is no right way to learn, you have to do what works for you.
Better advice really would be to prepare your mindset into a learning state, manage your expectations, not being over harsh on your own works etc.
The big one for me, in hindsight, is simply accepting that your first miniatures aren't going to be great and you probably won't ever paint like the one on the box. Accept those two things as true and just buy the miniatures you like. You will get far more enjoyment out of painting a great miniature to a lower standard than a cheap, crappy one to the same low standard. And ultimately, it's a hobby, it's supposed to be fun
I did 20 intercessors last month, it was a bit much, I admit. Im good at half that.
3-4 is my preferred number. 5 is my absolute limit before it just becomes too much of a slog and I lose motivation.
Imperial Guard player, 3-5 anymore and I just start loosing enthusiasm
All good advice.
I would only add "don't stress too much". This is a hobby, so it means it is supposed to be fun, not another source of stress.
There are no sources of stress, only your minds judgements of outer events
Cheers :)
My mind's judgement tells me you're a twat Ken.
when i paint like an assembly line i always paint a first one fully, alone to know what i'm working toward, so when i start to get tired of painting eye lenses or belt buckles etc i ca look at the only finished model and say "thats the goal for the 9 remaining dudes" and it works really well with me.
I do it just to figure out what I like and what I don't for that unit.
I do the same thing! I thought I was being weird. But it keeps me on goal and when I get really dismayed by some hard to reach detail I fucked up I can look across the desk and be like "ah yes, you will have your squadmates soon" hahaha
It's a smart move, finish one so that you know what to work towards/find things to improve.
Solid advice
Me too. That helps me sort out what works and what not. It's better to strip one model than 10 if you learn that after close inspection you don't like that colour scheme.
Soooo true about the "Don't do too many at once" with assembly-line painting. 27 Chainrasps was an absolutely brutal slog.
I just did 20 chainrasps over the course of about 3-4 days. Was a much bigger task than I originally thought it would be. I even went in with a game plan, paint scheme, and based them all, thinking I would be able to knock em out in an evening or two. After that, I decided to only do about five minis at a time to avoid burnout.
Tried to work through 30 Primaris infantry... am now taking a break from them.
@@ted.paints yeah I've found if you do a smaller amount at a time it's not so daunting. It helps me being able to look back at the minis and see the work I've accomplished. it gives me inspiration to do the next batch.
@@SixPieceNoNuggets my best work is done when I’m focusing on one model at a time. I find I can really get into a great rhythm and flow
I just did 40 Necron warriors. Was fine till I hit the guns, those took longer than the rest of the models combined. But, with the older ones in my collection, I've nearly 100 now so probably wont be doing any more lol
I started painting models about a month ago and people like you have been a big help. Thanks!
5:39 I once tackled 60 Poxwalkers for my Death Guard army. I think a bit of my soul died on the painting table.
I did 130 ork boyz. It was miserable
@@nikomiller3852 Ah man, did you go for counseling afterwards???
Don't be afraid to be cheap. Use your makeup brushes. Get proficient in stripping.
Wait, we're talking about models?
Super models 😉
Excellent comment sir!
Yea, models....
How do you think we afford the next army?
@@brianpugh2656 hahaha
I have been using $7 worth of makeup brushes to dry brush my Grey Knights kill team and I cannot imagine living without them now. +1: do not ignore makeup brushes from Walmart etc.
I used Make up brushes today to dry brush , thier a bit gunked up now ...... and i also have Wife Agro from using her make up brushes ..... any advice on dealing with the Wife agro when you steal her brushes :D lol
@@thenextbondvillainklaussch3266 Your wife is never going to be growly about you taking her to buy brand new make-up brushes and you using her used ones.
@@michaelwolf8690 Yes .... that idea seems to have dropped all agro , as long as i follow through of course lol
Might go shopping for some tonight then. Then I can practice painting AND makeup! jkjk
Nugget of wisdom there about diminishing returns once your batch size gets too large. And RIP Jim Goose.
Thats why my maximum is 10 models for batch painting
...painted 2k of necrons in 2 weeks...ummm....ya. should have watched this first
That's amazing that's about 150 necrons a day.
I painted a full Goblin Town army for MESBG in about 4 days, including basing 😂 I have no regrets! 😂😂
@@3rdForfar or sleep
I mean... may have been alot of work but once its done it's absolutely worth it.
What is MESBG this sounds amazing
Him: you won’t ruin it unless you run over it with your car
Me: I accidentally melted Abbadon’s chest when I knocked a scented candle onto my desk 😭
Authentic battle damage.
That's chaos for you
Well, now you have a nice center piece of Abaddon the Harmless getting blasted in the chest by a plasma cannon. :D
@@Adjuni I suppose it’ll make a good base for my guilliman great idea 😂
@@tarrasque7665 Hope it comes out nice.
I definitely second doing assembly line painting in smaller batches. I just finished up 50 spider riders and it killed my hobby drive for a while afterwards.
50? Congrats on that, an attempt at batch painting a Vanguard Veterans squad killed my drive for a month. However, I did my Intercessors one by one from start to finish, with lots of kitbashing and had a blast - plus unique awesome models to show for it. Batch painting - never again haha.
Great video, Sir! I learned to drive a “4-in-the-floor” stick shift in the early ‘70s and thought I was The Man...until I got behind the wheel of a “3-in-the-column” pickup truck! It was embarrassing to say the least! Kinda like learning different painting techniques, it definitely required more attention, generated much more excitement for me, and broadened my skills. Growth can be fun, even if challenging!
The week that 40k primaris came out, I bought 2 boxes of old tacticals, 2 intersessor squads, a primaris chaplain, a gravis captain and the redemptor dreadnought. I painted them all within a weekend.
i have not painted a model since..
That’s heavy
The best advice I got for painting was to paint something every day. Maybe it was just doing the base coat on the armour for these 5 guys for all of 5 minutes but it was something. Then figure out what you want to do the next day. And even when you spend a few days not doing much in each session you can see the progress, and maintaining that momentum means one of those sessions, you'll go a bit further and maybe knock out a small squad you were just going to finish up the basecoat and washes on.
Progress is progress, you don't have to finish anything in a session, just get something done.
I've found that this is my preferred way to paint everything, even gives enough time and space to change and add things as you paint.
@@Corey_Rowe Likewise. Unless I've already figured everything on a model out, if I go it all at once I'll just wind up disliking something I did.
Another note regarding assembly painting: when you get past 5-10 models, not only does it become a slog, you start getting sloppy. If you're painting 20 Ork Boyz or (DON'T DO THIS, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE) 30 Grots, you start rushing to finish that bloody 30th pair of boots and get paint everywhere, you start missing little details on the armour, it's just not a fun time.
Depends on the painter. I enjoy the painting as much as the playing (or slightly more), I have just about 400 figures in 15mm and am really looking forward to spending hours watching shows and painting them.
@@Naeron66 sorry, should have clarified, I meant doing more than 10 models in one single sitting. Even if you can do more though and still maintain a high quality and level of enjoyment, then that's awesome. I wish I was the same! But 5-10 seems to be my limit before it becomes a chore.
I always raise a brow when I see people going "look at this $100 Riptide I got as my first model, so excited to get into this hobby!"
You don't have a CTRL+Z but you can quicksave by sealing the mini with varnish and you can rub the paint off to this point. Vince Venturella mentioned that in one of his many amazing videos if I recall correctly :)
Depending on your method and the order in which you paint. It's fairly easy to essentially do Ctrl+z by not applying on colors you can't replicate. I.e say if you start with green, and then apply a wash all over that green, then you can't replicate that green, without re-applying that same green and then applying the same wash.
However, if you instead avoid washes until the last steps in your paintjob, it's muuuch easier to go back to a previous color if you mess up, and fix it up. That's something I learned through watching Darren Latham.
You also have CTRL+A + Delete.
If you mess up you can quickly apply clean water using a brush before the paint fully dries, scrub a bit with bristles as needed, then dry the water off using paper tissue.
Couple days ago my girlfriend started to paint her first mini (wood elves, sorry Adam). She chose the colour scheme and I helped her with techniques and tips while doing another model from the squad myself. Teaching her is tremdously satisfying and at the same time not to be underestimated. Thanks for all the good tips these last years! :-)
At this point in my hobby career I am pretty sure that Amazon thinks I am a gender confused beautician.
"Don't paint too many models in one batch".
Meanwhile, here I am staring at 50+ stripped Firstborn Space Wolves.
Yeah I'm painting my Lumineth in batches of twenty lol
Painted 200 elder guardians in a day once
I should clarify that my scheme was very simple and involved a single contrast for them and then details added like gems with other contrasts
@@minishaw280
200?! Madlad!
That's not 50+ Space Wolves. That's 10+ sets of five Space Wolves.
You don't tackle a huge problem by working at it like one problem. You break it up into a series of small problems. Much more manageable, and helps keep motivated when you have regular milestones to complete.
That assembly line tip is a+.I painted 16 models at once and thought I was gonna rip my pubes out. But about 5 at a time is the sweet spot for me personally.
Yep I'm the same. I feel you get diminishing returns on assembly line of more than 5 minis. Spending most of a painting session just painting 16 sets of boots or something is soul destroying
Having decided to test my limits recently, trying to assembly line 30 ironbreakers is well above my limit so I feel this lmao
Agreed. However, if your style does not involve using preprepared sets of colours/pots of paint, but is a little more “artistic” - mixing your own shades and transitions on a palette - and you want a consistent look across your army, then sometimes you just have to do batches the size of job-lots.
Yeah I feel you. I was doing a box of Ossiarch Bonereaper Mortek Guards. Twenty fiddly little skeletons with too much embroidery. I nearly wanted to die after having basecoated their bones and armour.
Then I put the project away and just did five at a time every evening and bam, easy as anything.
I can airbrush 80 in one go. Bristle brush is more like three.
"Don't do too many at once." This is all too true, and definitely my personal pick of best advice in this excellent video.
Many moons ago I made the mistake of batch painting 60 Termagants that I received as a gift when my friend decided he didn't want his Tyranids anymore, in a single batch. I am still recovering to this day.
Tyranids will break anybody
Good advice. As a long time hobbyist I take a lot of this stuff for granted.
An eBay lot?
I went to a charity shop and asked them to save me some make up brushes for me if they got any in. 2 weeks later I went back and had around 50 brushes of all kinds of sizes and shapes and textures, many of which were brand new.
Paid like £10 for all of them. Well worth it.
One thing that is also a good thing to remember: You're never going to be "good enough".
It's a trap I still fall constantly, I have three models waiting because of this, but the fact it: I will never get "good enough" to do justice to those models. As I get better at painting, the goalpost I want to reach also shifts higher and higher. And those models I bough because I was excited about them just go deeper and deeper into the pile. By the time I visit them again, I might not even be excited about the models anymore, maybe my tastes and interests have shifted.
If you're excited, buy and paint the model now. Don't wait until you get better, that way you just get a growing pile of backlog.
I feel like having a certain line you don't move a single time is the perfect balance. Getting into Star Wars Legion, I was terrified at the idea of painting my Mandalorians, and that pressure is definitely growing, but i said to myself that i'd be painting the more expendable units, than some more special units, and than my Mandos, and I'm definitely following with that in mind. That being said, I still haven't even properly highlighted yet so woo thats stressful.
This is why I establish a procedure when painting models for my army. It goes like basecoating -> recess shading/paneling -> glazing (if applicable) -> 1st -> 2nd layer of edge highlighting -> basing -> done. This way I never have to stop midway in the process to crank my thinky-thinky part on whether if xyz is good enough. I feel like a mini painting factory that churns out 5 to 7 models consistently every week and before I know it, 3000pts of Space Marines were ready for battle and right now I'm doing the same for my Death Guard army (1000pts down so far).
Rule of thumb: Humans can concentrate on one thing for about 90 minutes, then they need to do something else, which could be a short break or 90 minutes of a different task. If you structure your work like that, you will likely get more done in six hours than if you worked eight hours straight.
Or in my case, 90 seconds. Wait, what were we talking about?
90 minutes? Jesus I can't even get that level of concentration even with my meds.
You should tell my boss that.
@@Alexander-tu3iv Ever watched a film?
Or if you have ADHD like me you work for 6 hours straight and not be able to focus on anything else until it's done.
I’ve found that I get a lot done with assembly line painting, but there are times where I’m pretty much done and I ask myself “do their spears really need to be brown or does it look cool if I say they painted their spears black like it’s primed.” And that’s why all 50 of my high elves have black spears. Lol
When I bought my make up brushes it was an overall very positive experience. I learned a lot about make from the counter girl and she even recommended these blending sponges that I have been using to make super good looking and easy marble effects on tiles. Also we flirted with each other which is always fun.
How do you use blending sponges for marble?
@@jonasskttergaardnikolajsen3316 oh you put down wet paint in spots then wait for it to dry a bit around the edges then wipe it with a sponge. I suggest testing on scrap material I did this for my dungeon tiles for d&d. What happens is your left with just faint outlines on the floor I typically used 2 or 3 colors then washed them then did the same colors again but less frequent and smallest on top. But I found I got a good effect when just using a light color, like a cream white or sand color, and sparsely stippling dots on the edges of each square of the tile on top of the wash instead of the second marbling. It looks decent IMO and my players were blown away by the tiles so that’s a win in my book. Hope this helps.
Thumbs up for the 'Lot' definition...and the pun. For some reason I needed that Dad joke this morning.
I'm a maker [but not a figure painter per-se] but your advice is still extremely valuable. You demonstrate a mindset in your comments that suggests organisation WITHOUT panic. You alleviate anxieties that arise when beginning a hobby/project or when pushing your own envelope of skill level. An excellent video that is full of don'ts but is still very positive! Cheers. {Belongs in the 'required viewing' folder for all newbies}
I just recently got info age of Sigmar cos my parents got me Clanrats, a box of castle brand paint and thin brushes, and my friends ordered me the screaming bell kit and Stormvermin. They don’t look spectacular so far but I’ve barely done any art before and I’m really happy with them so far! Having fun even in third gear
I spent the first six years of my hobbying with craft acrylics. I finally decided to try something fancier just this week and wow, does it make a difference - I'm loving my Scale 75.
Though there's something to be said for starting with thinned craft acrylics, as it will *certainly* teach you a few things...
I like the Goose t-shirt. "Jimmy the Goose, larger than life and twice as ugly!"
"Nothin' a week in the tropics wouldn't fix!"
That gearbox analogy hit home.
Damn.
Strongly disagree with the last one. Starting with cheap craft paints was almost the reason I gave up back then. The results were horrible but I decided to give it a last shot and bought a small army painter set with 5 colors I think. Oh my word was that a revelation. The results were leaps and bouds beyond the craft paints even though I didn‘t change anything about how I painted. So sure, don‘t buy Rafael brushes and a 50 piece scale color set to start out with but please, please use purpose made tools for the hobby. Even the really cheap ones are vastly superior to craft paints.
Yes, I totally agree.
Interesting, I have used all acrylic types, in fact I used to work for Winsor and Newton, and did some development work on craft acrylics and early Games Workshop. I now only use craft acrylics, and frankly get very good results. Perhaps I have just learnt how to lean on their strengths and avoid their weaknesses?
I use Walmart acrylics and my models are table ready and that’s all I need. Of course using a wet pallet is a MUST. But I’m not aiming to win a dragon award. 😏
Funnily enough for me it was the opposite- it took me about 2 years to get into the hobby after I first became interested as I was repeatedly told if I wasnt going to use the expensive fancy paints it wasnt worth even trying (I was extremely tight on funds at the time and with what I could spare for hobbies it would have taken about an extra 3 months of saving to be able to afford even a basic starter).
I've made the switch to Vallejo now and they are absolutely leaps and bounds ahead, but I would never have got into the hobby at all if I hadn't started with cheap craft paints for the first few years.
I absolutely agree with you that once you can its worth making the switch to the proper paints, but it also makes me really happy to hear craft paints being included on the list- the hobby can be intimidating enough as it is, and it may help convince someone to give it a try without feeling they need to meet other people's standards.
Your experience is exactly what Adam is saying: you started in third gear, meaning that your craft paints were hindering your progress and giving bad results. You killed the engine every time. However, as soon as you switched to the first gear (army painter) you were good to go. You were able to harness their strength because your brain had already a clear vision of what to expect from a "good" paint because of the experience with the bad one. So, your first approach with craft paints helped you learn more than you think. Same will happen now if you move from AP to top tier brands like Warcolours or Scale.
The key is, don't give up and always strive for improvement 👍
Came for the hobby tips. Stayed for the life lessons. 🤙
That’s basically the channel 🌅
Ork and nid players laughing at only 10 in your assembly.
I mean.... you'd get it done eventually.
Foot guard laughing too.
*laugh sobs in devilgaunts*
Devilgaunts taught me my limit is 4 when it comes to batch painting. I have a long road ahead of me.
Its easy just dont buy little nids
I need to include painting more than one thing at a time. I’ve spent so much time just doing one piece at a time. Great video.
I am basically just starting painting. Thank you. My 7 Space Marines I got for $8 may not turn out like something in the back of the rule books, but they will be mine and I will enjoy painting them rather than worrying about having all the right stuff. Though, definitely going to get that Totally Awesome paint stripping stuff. These guys look like someone else didn't super enjoy painting them.
There was a suggestion I came across in an old White Dwarf magazine concerning batch painting. Don't remember who wrote the article, but he said to try things this way.
Assume a unit of 20-30 models (it was referencing old Warhammer Fantasy).
Take a week for just that unit.
Day 1 would be for assembly (clipping off the sprues, cleaning off mold lines, and gluing them together).
Day 2 would be for finishing up anything left over from Day 1, as well as priming. If time allows, put the base coats on the various pieces.
Days 3-6 would be for painting the consecutive layers, shading, highlighting and whatnot. Each part would be done on all the models before moving on to the next part.
Day 7 would be for basing and any touch up work you feel is necessary.
In this way, one wouldn't get so overwhelmed with painting an army.
Apply this method to other games in an appropriate manner.
Hmmm that's interesting and probably take that on board.
I just bought a vortex mixer. Discovering how much better my mini paints (particularly Army Painter) should be has renewed my drive to paint more. I’d say best purchase I ever made but I doubt a beginner would buy one starting out.
To test it out, I taped an army painter bottle to my pneumatic drill (did not want to buy a tool without testing it with household items). Set it to non-spin and just put it to a rock that is in my house for some reason. Army Painter paints really need a lot of shaking to mix well, but I agree they are usable when shaken mechanically for a while.
I learned a lot by painting terrain first which is very forgiving and gives you room to experiment with dry brushing, sponge work and even fine detail work
"a lot, yeah you're right"
I too live for puns.
Being an "old bunny" in the painting game I really enjoyed your video and have many times echoed all of these same points to others. Miniature painting and wargaming is a "Journey" and takes time. Funny you discovered the "makeup brush" as well! I discovered their place in the hobby since my wife is makeup artist in the film biz and gave me some of her fine old brushes (we both work in the film biz in Hollywood). I too started doing "production line" painting nearly 40 years ago and wrote several articles on it for magazines (no internet then!). I also have my first few mini's sitting in a case near my workbench as a constant reminder of where I started. One thing that all starting painters need to avoid is looking at the internet and seeing some of the frankly amazing world class jobs done by talented painters and being discouraged by their own humble efforts, remember "it's a journey" and journeys take time. At one time I was considered a very good painter and was winning awards and competitions across the country, I cant hold a candle to some of the painters today! Does it bother me? No, I paint because I love it, it gives an outlet to my creative side and restful almost meditative time of concentration. When I see some of these fantastic paint jobs it encourages me to become better, learn more, and that keeps the hobby fresh! You can see some of my "journey through the world of wargaming" on my site www.HistoricalHobbies.com
Bottom-line, great work! Keep it up!
Bill Witthans
Regarding the last point: I see what you're saying and I would also add "don't limit yourself to a single brand". The sooner you start doing this, the less frustrating it will be. I use paints from all manufacturers so I can pick the best one for each task from each range... I use fine art paints for very specific tasks and, heck, in my last video I also reviewed some Russian paints that I tried and proved to be excellent. The point is, variety is key!
Huge agree with you. Im gonna check out that Russian paint vid momentarily. One video I really found impactful is Ninjons video on his favorite paints. Many different brands, and he describes what he likes etc. Made me decide to check out all sorts of different brands rather than my usual citadel or army painter ones. FYI I'd like to see more painter make such videos... if youre ever looking for a video idea.
@@Ace-wo7ul thank you for checking my vid and suggesting Ninjons one. I will check it out. It is indeed very important to try as many colors as possible! Even in the same paint line you will find paints that behave completely different: some are shitty some are great, others are meh. Pick and mix FTW!
One thing about assembly lines: I'll often start by doing like 10-20 models at a time for the early base coat (and maybe wash/drybrush), and then focus and like 3-5 of them after that. Always depends on the models ofc.
In my country, most wargaming miniatures a veeery expensive. So I decided to start practicing with other tabletop games, such as zombicide. It's a great way to begin, since it has many miniatures and you can cover errors with bloodstains hahaha. Also it's an easy game to play with friends.
Totally agree with the assembly line method.
I work in 15mm (1/100 scale) medieval historicals. I glue the figures onto wooden strips and can handle seven or eight figs on each strip and maybe 5 or 6 strips. I like to vary colours as my units are irregular so different browns or boots and belts, different colours for fabric, and you can just go down the line and do alternate boot colours or alternate cloak colours.
You can also start two different units and switch from one unit to the other when 'mid brown' paint is in use, then go to 'dark brown' and do the same - switching from unit to unit and painting alternate figures with the paint pot which is currently open.
Obviously if one is doing 'regimentals' then doing a whole block in the same colour is also economical on paint or time.
Big shout out for assembly line - it worked for Ford!
Barry
Started with Blightlord Terminators for my first models.
Honestly, I’m happy with how they turned out to this day. They aren’t as good as I can do now but, they’re still really up to par imo
I do think the DG are a good starting point (Mortarion aside); there's some flat areas that can teach you about thin/smooth coats, but there's enough detail to learn about highlighting and the like. And the models are really forgiving; I've been painting for about eight years now and occasionally get frustrated still with faces and really intricate detail, but the Death Guard overall can come out looking fantastic, especially with some good use of technical paints like rust and the like.
I'm so glad I have a resin printer. I'll buy models eventually, but right now it's great having no worries about how bad I'm screwing up paint jobs.
I gotta say: I really really enjoy your videos. You're super down to earth and chill. Plus you've give a lot of great advice in all of your videos. Glad I'm subbed. :D
Appreciate all you've done for my understanding of the hobby. Thanks for all you do and for your wonderfully dry sense of humor. Assembly line painting has been a great way to work. I usually do about 4-5 at a time.
Excellent point on the assembly line painting. It can feel like you are making no progress when working on a large group.
Been some time since I saw one of your videos. And it always brings a smile. Thanks for being part of the community Dude! PA CHOW!
Moral of the story: Learn to drive stick on a car with a decent gearbox.
I learned on a farm tractor
I learned on a '63 Chevy 10. Three on the tree with second gear missing...rough.
The car analogy was perfect! Just build, just paint and enjoy yourself!
makeup brushes are great for removing dust from models gently if youve left them out for a while
Starting small is very good advice. This goes for purchasing and assembling miniatures, too! One of the biggest motivation killers is when you splurge on buying a massive army, assemble them and become daunted by the realisation that you now need to paint them all.
I find I get more done when I buy a starter set or the equivalent (or maybe even start with just one miniature, like a cool commander guy or something), assemble, paint and then add just one unit then assemble, paint, repeat and so on.
Resist that urge to splurge!
Honestly I think the people looking down on drybrushing are probably viewing things through the reductive lens of harder techniques = better, which in turns means easier techniques = worse. It's just blind elitism.
To add on to the assembly line idea, I find it helpful to approach painting on a box by box basis. Don't overwhelm yourself by building an entire army and priming them and then think you have to paint them all at the same time. For me, it helps to not even build and prime a box until I'm ready. Even if I build and prime a large quantity, I still break them back down into box by box projects (i.e., a squad of Rebel troopers for SW: Legion, a Dark Angels assault squad, a squad of Dark Angels terminators, etc.).
This was super entertaining. Your stories and tangents are great. Do them more often 🤣
1. Some circumstances 20+ models is ok, like airbrushing. 2. As someone who has painted since the early 2000's I use drybrushing all the time, it's an incredible way to highlight quickly if done correctly.
Just finished a project painting 25 chaos warriors, 15 chaos knights, and 40 Marauders... batches of 5 kept me sane
We had an old Rabbit Diesel, but I was 20 at the time. I learned to drive at 12, got my license at 15. I learned how to drive stick in an Isuzu P'up. The old Rabbit had the same weird reverse as the '84 Charger I had at the time. You had to start in 1st gear, push straight down on the lever and then flip it to the left to get into Reverse. :)
Now I have the image of him just siting at the computer for an hour going "that is alot of space marines"
my biggest tip also came from one of your videos... "define what you are striving for - do you want to paint a mini as good as you can as a display piece or do you want some nice looking game tokens which look good at gaming distance?" because not only is it exhausting and frustrating to look at a huge set of miniatures to paint as good as you can. it also happens to be - at least in my opinion - that display models do not necessarily look good at the gaming table. often times there is way to much going on with them. so, if you want to get some nice looking miniatures to play with, you can cut corners or even use completely different techniques and get a lot of motivation and energy for the pieces you want to look really good! thanks for that advice, uncle atom ^^.. it already brought me back thrice from the brink of "i don't care anymore - this is becoming work and not hobby time!"
Don't ever stop with the bad puns Adam - could chuckle away to that "lot" gag once a video quite easily
I agree on the assembly line method, its a big time-saver. It also allows you more confidence in applying paints or washes that you have mixed as you keep a consistent colour.
I mainly play 15mm so do 2 units at a time which is usually 24-32 models each unit, 3-4 hours to get them done and first varnish. For 28/32mm I would say 8-12 is best.
The top thing you shouldn't do in your hobby is let people tell you what you should and shouldn't do. It's your hobby. Do what you want
By the virtue of you saying I shouldn't listen to what others say I shouldn't do you have created a paradox that defeats your own advice.
@@culturedrogue1929 that would be a good response if that's what I had said. Read my comment again.
@@stevepickford3004 Uncle Atom is a pillar of the community - Just because you are satisfied with your hobby doesn't mean everyone else can't find useful tips or just entertainment value in his wonderful videos. Also don't take advice videos so seriously. They are meant for everyone and no one at the same time.
@@codybrown3844 Don't take things so seriously dude. Am I not allowed to give my own tip? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others won't find it useful
You trying to tell me what I should do?
Read your own comments.
My practice victims of choice are space orks, the old axe in one hand and gun in the other type from the mid 90s. I've found them in every Warhammer joblot I've gotten from ebay. There must be millions of them knocking around in households all over the world. They also happen to be the first thing I ever painted, so every few years I paint one according to the colour scheme I was using in 1996. Thankfully I can say that each attempt has resulted in a significant improvement, which is always good for painting morale.
I did 40 Wracks in one assembly line as part of a Drukhari commission... it did not just destroy my motivation, it destroyed my soul...
Probably was consume by she who thirsts... Next time try sacrificing some slaves in a gladiatorial pit...
My first ever box of tactical marines stand on my desk as a reminder to always read the instructions. upside down shoulderpads, guns not resting in the hand properly, guns pretty much melted to the chest and ruining the Aquila, just to name a few mistakes. They're my goofy marines and i love them :)
*looks at roughly 30 tactical marines I started assembly line painting last april* yup, don’t do that
That last tip was golden, got some training models yesterday, assembled them and primed them this morning. Was waiting on getting a wet pallet, but it's not really needed right now. Thx
Do: paint your miniatures.
Don't: not paint your miniatures.
To build on point 1, I'll add that local game stores will often times have 'sprue kits' of old models that people in the hobby no longer need or want, typically for the purpose of scavenging for bits for custom alterations and such. Most of the time it's bits and pieces but sometimes it's whole models, and you can often snag a bag of 4-5 'less than perfect' models for a few bucks. Maybe not something you'd want to field but certainly a good canvas to practice on.
Makeup brushes are a game changer indeed. Get the pack that has the multiple sizes. You'll thank me later.
Ty. Aged 47 and just starting but did buy most the stuff already. But now buying some spares
Most gamers probably have plenty of board game miniatures to train their paining on. No ebay required.
True. However I find the smaller size of board game models can be more difficult to paint nicely. It’ll teach you brush control the hard way haha.
Person: wow, how do you paint such nice eyes?
Me: practice (flashback of tiny Merchant's Cove minis)
When i started, i decided to paint an entire 2,000 point imperial guard army in full assembly line. I painted 60 infantry in one sitting, i almost gave up on the hobby after the first 30 but I'm glad i didnt. Learn from my stupidity and pace yourself, dont burn yourself out just because its an exciting new hobby.
Important one: don't procrastinate
I'm still thinking about starting to procrastinate.
Just a heads up. The procrastinators convention has been indefinitely postponed.
@@mayofrench5170 Who made this decision?! :D
My word, I don't think I've ever heard ctrl-z so exhaustingly explained. Like, it's such a simple concept to me, but I guess if someone didn't use it much.. yeh, it's a weird phrase.
Love the Mad Max tee
As slaying the grey is a chore at every level. I would say yes don't get a forge world model but paint a box of space marines or what ever your army you have picked. It will make it much more appealing if you like what your Painting.
With all the UA-cam videos it's very easy to get a table top standard.
Ya I made a great dent then bought a 3d printer ...... oh boy ....
P.S.: A standing car should have been out of gear to begin with - and your father should have known that. Standing around with 3rd gear in? Ridonculous! XD
I tend to leave mine in 1st, stops the car rolling if I forget the brake or it isnt properly applied.
I haven't been able to paint due to a tremor but thank you for the memories. I loved it and now feel like trying again.
Check out a yt channel for tips as he has tremor issues also.. Black Magic Craft.
In the rest of the world. 'Stick shift' is standard.
Let's not brag about behind on the curve, buddy.
@@joachimwalle3760 Let's not make it so obvious you can't drive stick, pal.
@@nocturnal8171 Driving stick is a skill only about as useful as driving a stagecoach.
Brag about it all you want, nobody cares.
I can drive manual. I haven't needed to in years because technology has moved on.
@@stevenschnepp576 You heard it here, folks. 43% of the world drive stagecoaches.
Another very easy option for "lots of cheap miniatures" is to get into 15mm. They're small enough that they're dirt cheap when new, big enough that you get individuals with faces, and generally are the size that "play with your models" indie games are designed around.
I did roll over a miniature with my car.
And yes, it did get ruined. So - confirmed.
Wow, I hope your insurance will cover the cost of a new car.
Hook, line, and sinker. How do you get to roll over your mini with a car?
know a guy who rolled over a case of models. he was able to save them
When it comes to assembly line painting: it also depends on the complexity of the models. In my experience it was easier to assembly line paint 30 necron warriors then it was to do 15 space marines.
just got 30 poxwalkers it's time to get over my fear of painting
@Harvey no im not new just to scared to paint my stuff i have like 3 completely bare plastic armies
I mean poxwalkers are perfect they are made of puke so you really cant mess up.
Your makeup brush video was such a revelation for me. I can't imagine painting without them now. And combined with your recent terrain painting video has made a terrain painting a delight for me.
How fragile would your manhood have to be to be threatened by a cashier checking out your makeup brushes? LOL!
If you plan on asking her out....
wait until you get married and become a father and are going to the grocery store for breast pads and such lmao. gotta grow up some time guys.
Thanks man! I’m about to paint for the first time!
* laughs in 90 unpainted boyz*
Waaaaaghahahahaaaaa!
This is definitely going onto the list of "videos to watch" for my friends getting into the hobby scene. Great video!
My mom runs a makeup company so I have an unlimited supply of drybrushes lmao
The first one is perfect example. My brother bought me a Canis Rex knight (about $150) and I want to get some practice before hand so I bought a sentinel about $30 so I can test certain things like air brush and magnetizing and posing. I would have to screw up so bad to throw out 5 models for the same price. Also group assembly paint and assembly is amazing.