You need to understand that everthing you do at the poker table conveys information. Can't be all loosey goosey, eatin a sandwich or being on your phone
A while back Torelli 'hid' 2 5 thou chips behind 2 big stacks of 100s (denomination unconfirmed) and way under-repped his stack size. Camera caught the whole movement. Check it out on 1 of dougs other vids.
The funniest bit was Torelli saying he would respond to the allegations, then posting a reply that avoided answering the allegations, and instead trying to divert attention from himself by attacking Doug for attacking him! Talk about not having a leg to stand on.
@@johnnyhartley4330 Guy straight up went and hid his small pair behind his mother's skirt. Craig...*sigh*....thanks, Craig but Iankeled38 was merely shooting us all a legit question.
Players hide their cards all the time, it’s bs, then people bet behind then and they scream wait a minute. All done to just get information, think cards need to be put in a certain place like on tv tourneys that way you know who is playing.
@@jordanmitchell8894 over 100 hands online you're way more likely to get sucked out on than 100 hands live doesn't matter how fast you play the hands, RNGs are not random in poker. I have millions of hands on sites like Bovada and ACR and while you get dealt cards the correct ratio like aces every 221 hands the ratio that they lose heads up etc etc etc is way off. It's the turn and river that's jacked up.
Totally, but I think it depends a little on who is in the pot... The old retired guy who shows up to the 8am $10 buy-in tourney might very well fold AA, but the half drunk biker dude might call you with Q high 'just to keep you honest' haha.
Aaron appears to be playing in a game that is too high stakes for his bankroll. If you cannot make the call with a set of nines on that board the way it played out then you are too susceptible 2 bluffs.
well yeah, if you didnt' think you could do an all in there, when it gets checked over to you, just check back and flip em over, you wouldnt have lost that extra 7000 or so, and have to go through all that stress.
@@3cs3hs in high stakes games you are going to have to bet fold on the river a lot of times. You have to bet for value there. Never ever check. That's why you arent a winning player. You have to value own yourself sometimes in order to be a winning player. If you bet and get called 100% of time on your value hands what does that tell you? It means theres other hands where you are missing out on value. This is 100% the wrong fold given this board texture but if the river was say a K of hearts, I get on board with this bet fold line.
From the line of Dan play, he could only have one combo QT heart, he will never call QTo at turn out position, try to hit gut shoot on the river. The next hand Dan can have is KK and AK, plus some missing draw bluff on river. so set 99 is call on river.
@@zche083 From Aaron's perspective, the only hands stronger than 99 he'll ever have here are QhTh or JJ. He'll have plenty of 2-pair combos he cant bet-fold the river like A6s, A9s, KhJh, maybe AJ. With 99 you just have to call it off.
@@Joel-js2gk I have another thought, Dan 3 bet the pot, if he TQ, T8 must suited, 3 bet Un-suited TQ, T8 is too lose. if Dan pick up a open-end at turn, he likely too continue barrel two street. The player as good as Dan DO NOT often check-call a straight draw at turn and out position, it's a lose play, he may check-rise bluff at turn if he pick a open end or bluff two street. This also can reduce the chance of Dan to have TQs, T8s. Then Dan value bet hands is AK or KK, bluff hands like missing flash draw, so 99 can be a call at river, but fold is not bad play either.
@Jake Green it blocks the only combination of Q10 (nut straight) he can have there, as he wouldn’t continue without the heart cause he doesn’t have enough equity.
@Jake Green Not only he blocks exact QhTh, but also Aaron was never bluff with Qh Flush draws, he would bluff w/ something like 87s. Blocking A is netural as doug says. This is too nitty fold I think cause Aaron cannot have better hand than 99 here other than QhTh just 1 comobo. Sothing like AK is almost same value hand to bluff catch with, but given that he would have would've bet worse than AK & 99, I think both of them are calling.
His line makes complete sense for Q10h, that's specifically what he put him on. Have you ever been faced with this situation for that amount of money? I seriously doubt you would snap.
@@why-even-try-brotendo Totally reasonable fold AP but no folding sets is kind of a good rule. Just gotta be rolled for it when you do get cold decked.
Joe Shaloom would you 3 bet a raise with QTS out of position ? I don’t think he would so I’d snap with a set there also. He has too much AK AJ AQ to be turning into a bluff. Boom. Snap call all day every day
@@Charlie.93 Sometimes I 3 bet raise if I want to isolate with a suited connector. It's not that uncommon. I'm just saying that it's a ton of money and I have no problem with a guy taking some time to figure out the hand. Who knows? Maybe he was trying to figure out if he could still play if he lost to a straight.
@Awesome Liberal I think he would make less mistakes if he was closer to 100bb, that's all. No use buying in for 200bb if you pull all pikachu when you get check raised all-in for over 100bb more. Lol
In a case like this one, don't value the river if you're not 100% sure to beat your opponent ! "What if he pushes all in ?" should be answered before putting the bet. If the answer is "I'd fold", just check back.
I think it's pretty exploitable if you'd call 100% of reraises after a river value bet. Sometimes its necessary to see if the other person has you beat on the river. In this case, the other guy made a really good, ballsy bluff and caught him.
Some times you’ve just got to keep this game simple, pay or be paid, move onto the next hand. If you can’t move onto the next hand because of bank roll issues you should be a work or playing multi table micro stakes and just enjoy the game 👍
I think this: 1) Aaron had around 30% pot odds to call, with a small SPR 2) suppose Dan was in a nutted range like KK+, JJ, QTs 3) we have to consider also stuff like AKo, AKs in Dan's range! 4) and just with a final range of (KK+, JJ, QTs, AK) 99's set is good around 41%, so still +EV to call! if we add in more weak hands like AJ or AQ, it is even better for Aaron! Anyway, was a weird hand cause Dan's play on the river was pretty much reckless and yes he had some blockers, but I feel him here to be too much confident. Also, cause the SPR was small and Aaron was pretty much committed so it's hard to get good fold equity. I think Aaron was too much nitty here. Nice hand though!
I was taught whenyou play a small pair there is really one goal-flopping a set and that rarely happens if you are gonna get scared to a big river bet you shouldnt be calling reraises with 99
I'm surprised no one has complained about the guy who is playing with his chips. I'm 5 minutes into the video and its starting to get to me. It's like the sound guy gave his chips their own mic. :)
Doug ty for being you and helping me improve my game 10 fold. Because of you I'm a killer at the tables. I quit my job for 2 years been makong 100k plus a year playing poker. Happy Turkey day to you my friend and god bless. hilarious not fold he dont belong playing this big if he folds a hand as big as this.
Hey Doug / anyone, whats up with the way Dan bets 2:43, I guess it's not a string bet, but can you really be holding so many chips and just drop the bottom ones? Is that some kind of weird angle shoot? In any event, seems pretty whack. Thanks for your reply.
@@nicklock8929 - Not talking about here. But you will come across times when a guy has a pair and 4 to a straight and rivers the straight that you never expected and get your ass reamed.
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 Lmao. That doesn't mean shit. You play your hand the way it would be played in any situation. If they're a river rat, then so be it. But you don't play like shit on the flop, call a fucking 1k raise, buy in for all your worth & bet your solid hand on river to fold to a reraise. That screams bluff 99% of the time. No way dude was chasing a straight, especially a gutter. On the turn you should know he's playing top pair or 2 pair at best. No high limit player is chasing a straight all the way unless you let them. And this dumbass let him act like he was chasing. A-ron fucked up from the second he decided to buy in. What a tard. That's a snap call, no more than 5 seconds to call. If you lose on river card then, that's poker.
Arron might’ve thought Dan had a conservative range that consisted of pair Aces, Pair kings, pair queens and pair jacks etc . It’s not all about the straights you have to look at how they played before and go from there, because there are three hands that could beat him if Dan was a conservative player.
Live tourney nits are so much fun to play against in cash. They're so used to only getting raised by the nuts that they have no problem folding everything. SOOO easy to bluff.
Thing is, in a hypothetical situation would Dan be doing this if he had KK when QTs is in buttons range ? 3bet/Bet/Check-Call/Check-Shove with KK? Im asking is it Ok to check raise allin on the river with KK on this board giventhat the button could have all his suited QT's in his range because Dan made such a small cbet on the flop, A button player with all QsTs is going to call and peel one off here and/or float very often if he was faced with such a small cbet sizing on the flop right? Basically Im asking if it would be fine to go all in with KK on the river if the Button has all QTs in his range. Thanks
I would say check-shoving with KK is pretty good here. We know Aaron doesn't have AA, and Aaron will most likely pay us off with plenty of two-pair and set combos. So, we're really only worried about QT, but he's just not going to have it that often.
@@Converge3 on the contrary he played exactly like KK. reraise preflop bet on flop check with an ace showing calls turn and check raise all in river. KK is the only hand that would play like this. Aside from small 1k bet on flop
Thank you Doug, you made me some cash. Two nights ago, I have a set of 5's on a board 5 10 J 8 x. Heads up I bet $25, got raised to $80, I reraised to $200, then he reraised me all-in to $525. I had him covered. I put him on the straight with Q9 or 97. I called because of this video. Doug Polk said don't fold sets. So I didn't. He had the straight with 9 7. The river paired the board with a Jack to make my hand float with the boat.
I know the influx of videos is just to advertise the Upswing sale, but it was nice to get a second video this week. We miss you. Also i had a guy at the casino like my Upswing t-shirt.
Doug, TOO funny but SO understated I ALMOST missed (at 1:15) your casual remark, "The small blind hides a couple of small cards behind the rest of the mucked cards..." LOL!
Id... rethink that if I were you. One single purchase recently was $100M - people with money like that don’t bet on losers. Read about it - statistics don’t lie. But Polk still is lame for quitting poker.
If you're just going to fold to an all in shove on the river there, just check back and take it down. Especially in a cash game like that. Better to win a small pot than lose a big one and if your opponent did have one of those hands you'd be folding to, you don't lose anything else.
big fan. its so obvious the range of value dan has at this point (maybe not 999 but ok) and its really just so hard for him to have a bluff except this. really cool shot I think. great for tv
Yeah, I personally always loved seeing poker players tank (as long as they have tough decisions), even if they take 8 minutes. I think it's fun to see them think really hard for a lot of money. But I agree that it's not quite as appealing when you know the outcome because of the title.
I genuinely thought the video got funnier the longer he tanked. It was ridiculous this wasn't a snap call, it got more ridiculous watching him contort his face into scaring himself off.
Hey Doug: The kid who folded 99 was playing scared money. Not everyone is ready to play at these levels simply because they don't have the money to do it.The majority of Americans don't have 50k readily available. Poker at the high stakes level changes much of the dynamic of the game itself. For 50k you aren't folding the 99 because you are a millionaire. Where AQ shoved all-in the other guy was shitting in his pants! 50k is a a nightclub with friends, bottles and sluts for you. Honestly, poker is a real waste of money that could be used for significantly better ventures rather than sitting at a card table with men all day hoping that your set won't get busted by some loose cannon or Uber-rich dude who sucked out to a straight. Poker is you win some and you lose most. I would have to have millions of dollars to comfortable go and plunk $50,000 onto the table and not care if you lose it. If you only have $500,000 10% of your network is depleted on the basis of losing one single hand assuming the buy in is $50,000 minimum. It is a terrible fucking investment for anybody, never mind the kid who was quivering in his fruit of the looms over potentially losing his stack.
Lot of people do this to hide subtle facial expressions humans give away unintended...when you're sitting down with 50k+ you try to gain any advantage you can and that includes this kind of stuff. It'd be really stupid not to do it if you have facial tells.
@@bradmundies425 I understand why they do it (obviously). It looks absolutely ridiculous. Your explanation is spot on, but I still think it's extremely awful for the game.
lol you cant say it looks absolutely ridiculous if he is doing it for a reason lol. What would be ridiculous would be if he hid und er the table every hand lol@@JeffHoopAdventure
the key to this is that Aaron played his set too weak. Zack had no idea he was this strong, thus setting up the balls to have him go all in on the river. Aaron's bet sizing was too small imo, but moreso an issue was he took so long to agonize over his betting... he looked weak to Zack when in fact he had a totally hidden monster. Attitude is everything
Love that youre keeping up with the scene Doug, brings me hope you could play again one day! Im supposed to be completing some coursework for my accounting degree right now but priorities called
Not sure but I think I figured out Aarons "tell"... It was really hard to spot but; If you payed laser focused attention, you might just catch it at 8:34
Its a bad bluff the guy with AQ knows hes behind he cant beat anything but a rag ace. The other guy folding dosnt make sense to me you cant put him on a straight and if he had pocket kings then why would you be betting with the ace on the table. I would of put my opponent on ak 2 pair its an easy call.
well it actually makes sense that he could have had KK. 3bet pre, small cbet on the Ace flop to see where he was and maaaaybe he would have folded on the flop to a x3 raise. Since he got called, he just slowed down on the turn and went check-call. Maybe he sensed the weak Ace, like A5-A10 suited from the button call preflop and was planning to donk him on the river. I'm not saying I would put him on that, but he actually could have had that hand.
there's like 3 2 pairs that sam wise can have and fold that Frodo can go after. its not likely he's targeting 999 or whatever here. with that said the 999 fold was stupid I think you have to call because of distribution. what else are you going to call with
i have a question. i call raise from early position unknown player with ah4h. flops Ad Jc 5h i have top pair weak kicker and backdoor flush draw shoud i call cb? how about without backdoordraw?
This message is for Doug, who posted the video. I appreciate your insight and advice, for sure. I would also appreciate you using terms that someone new to the game, like me, understands. I spent many times searching terms you used in the video, but it got to the point where that became just too much so I proceeded watching without understanding it all. If this is for viewers who are supposed to know the terms you've used, then ok, but if you are welcoming to new players, I know I would've learned much more had I understood what you were saying. I also understand one can learn from exposure, but I would suggest maybe finessing your speech just a bit on your part, you know, for us newbies. Or not. Thanks bro.
"If this is for viewers who are supposed to know the terms you've used, then ok," It is. In all seriousness though, this isn't some super-advanced theoretical video, and the terms he uses are pretty basic. Outside of "merged range", I don't recall hearing a single term that a typical player (including fairly new ones) either doesn't know or can't figure out the meaning through context. What are some things you didn't understand?
Thanks. As I watch more, I see what you mean - this isn't catered to new comers. As I just finished my second day at the casino tables, I've learned a bunch of the terms I didn't understand just a few days ago (with still much to learn). Disregard my earlier sentiment and I will learn through context.
If you check the turn with draw possibilities on the board, unless you are bleeding your opponent with a monster made hand and you are hoping he will catch up to a lesser hand, that check has a possible negative expectation that becomes a positively negative one if the opponent makes a gutshot or open-ended straight on the river. Checking the turn is a bad play because it gives him infinite odds to draw out on you...and that's not a winning strategy.
I think you underestimate how unbalanced river XR can be in livepoker. Folding against a lot of players on midstakes even with a set of 9s doesnt seem to unreasonable. This game is obv highstakes and rather an exception...
Dan is a pro, and is 100% capable of having bluffs in this spot. More importantly, if you are folding 99 in this spot you are folding your entire range except ~1.5 combos of QTs. When you are at top of range and get raised you cannot fold unless your opponent is a total fish and only has the nuts and you know that for a fact, otherwise you are much too exploitable to the line in question.
That needle at Alex in the beginning is fantastic I love it. He is such a scum bag, he is trying to sell a course on FB, I commented if there was a angle shooting part of the course and he deleted my comment and made it so I can’t comment on his posts and advertisements. It’s not like I’m making stuff up or spreading lies about him, the guy can’t accept the truth.
The key is Aaron never bet on the river, if he had the nuts I doubt he would check the last bet. Making a set even stronger to call an all in, at some point Aaron picked up Dan was nervous.
I have played NLHE at all stakes from 1-2 to 25-50. The higher you go in stakes and the DEEPER the stacks, the probability of bullying goes WAY up. You can successfully call huge bets light at higher limits. I have been in this type of situation before and while a check raise on the river does usually indicate a strong hand and in this particular spot, there was a chance he was slow-playing aces or spiked a K, but AK is even more likely and the combo of strength of hand and pot commitment makes it an instacall IMO.
You won't make any $ by flopping a set ,if you goes all in on the flop. Your opponent only committed $2700 and both of you are very deep in stacks. But from your logic you don't have to deal with stress with playing poker on the river. It's the high stakes game, people who can't afford it then they shouldn't be in the game in the first place. just my opinions.
This is one of those spots where you have to just take a deep breath and say if he's got a bigger set or rivered the straight then it's just a cooler, and call, and over the long run such spots will even themselves out, Dan just has Two pair or pair of aces too often here to fold.
"Hides a couple cards....". I love it. I have seen 4 videos covering Torellis' lack of personal character, the first of which was on his own channel. I unsubbed him on the basis of the analysis he tried on his own hand, and thoughts on his own channel. I stated then that the only pure, integrity response was to return the extra. The Age 'spiritual' gobbledygook gave way to Corporate CS type response to me, 'thanking' me for my 'concern'. I can't stand that FAKE ASS THIEF.
You need to understand that everthing you do at the poker table conveys information. Can't be all loosey goosey, eatin a sandwich or being on your phone
Ooh baby I love it!
never seen the million dollar pot between the 2 chineses guys? guy was eating chineses food
LOL
@James Fondren it's a reference
@@lucasng4712 i heard eating more sandwiches at the table is better
"Hides a couple of small cards behind the rest of the mucked cards" the subtle but not so subtle digs, gotta love 'em Doug! haha
I don't get it, what is the angle being implied?
A while back Torelli 'hid' 2 5 thou chips behind 2 big stacks of 100s (denomination unconfirmed) and way under-repped his stack size. Camera caught the whole movement. Check it out on 1 of dougs other vids.
The funniest bit was Torelli saying he would respond to the allegations, then posting a reply that avoided answering the allegations, and instead trying to divert attention from himself by attacking Doug for attacking him! Talk about not having a leg to stand on.
@@johnnyhartley4330 Guy straight up went and hid his small pair behind his mother's skirt.
Craig...*sigh*....thanks, Craig but Iankeled38 was merely shooting us all a legit question.
Players hide their cards all the time, it’s bs, then people bet behind then and they scream wait a minute. All done to just get information, think cards need to be put in a certain place like on tv tourneys that way you know who is playing.
Mike postle would have laughed and called immediately.
He would’ve raised whatever is left in his wallet
Postle is a GOD and he'd be on top of the poker world if it wasn't for those pesky internet trolls trying to ruining his reputation left and right.
@@BoleDaPole no if he didnt have a daughter he wouldnt be tied down to the sacramento area. He would be able to go and dominate everywhere
@@BoleDaPole What's his winnings like when not playing a live streamed game? Still insanely high win rate?
On the reverse side- Mike postle could never make this bluff in a million years..
Maria Ho approves that fold
Nahce
But she would fold it on the flop
@@Gos1234567 Underrated Comment
Hahahaha Folding a set is for losers!!!
This guy Mike Postle, told me that when I'm uncertain how to play my hand to just look at my lap and I'll find the answer. Anyone know what he meant?
@@pete4463 do you know who Mike Postle is?
Bruh mike postle bruh cheater
Lol
Dude been playing online his whole life where every hand makes a straight on the river.
Real life straights, 9 percent, online, 36 percent.
Lmao foreal
Basically
@@MarkH10 Seeing more bad run outs due to seeing triple the hands per hour isn't the same as an increase in percentage of bad run outs
@@jordanmitchell8894 over 100 hands online you're way more likely to get sucked out on than 100 hands live doesn't matter how fast you play the hands, RNGs are not random in poker.
I have millions of hands on sites like Bovada and ACR and while you get dealt cards the correct ratio like aces every 221 hands the ratio that they lose heads up etc etc etc is way off. It's the turn and river that's jacked up.
You know you play low stakes when the one time you try this at your own game and you get snapped off by 96 off suit
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Try this at a 1-2 game and you're getting called every time.
@@truthsmiles If this was a 1-2 game you'd get snap called by top pair
Totally, but I think it depends a little on who is in the pot... The old retired guy who shows up to the 8am $10 buy-in tourney might very well fold AA, but the half drunk biker dude might call you with Q high 'just to keep you honest' haha.
In Russia you do not bluff fish - fish bluff you.
@@truthsmiles man those personalities dont exist anymore, theyre all under the same fish umbrella.
Aaron appears to be playing in a game that is too high stakes for his bankroll.
If you cannot make the call with a set of nines on that board the way it played out then you are too susceptible 2 bluffs.
I wonder where these guys get the funds to sit down in a game like this
well yeah, if you didnt' think you could do an all in there, when it gets checked over to you, just check back and flip em over, you wouldnt have lost that extra 7000 or so, and have to go through all that stress.
@@randeepwalia1507 you can get a bank loan if you tell the loan officer that its for playing high stakes poker
@@3cs3hs in high stakes games you are going to have to bet fold on the river a lot of times. You have to bet for value there. Never ever check. That's why you arent a winning player. You have to value own yourself sometimes in order to be a winning player. If you bet and get called 100% of time on your value hands what does that tell you? It means theres other hands where you are missing out on value. This is 100% the wrong fold given this board texture but if the river was say a K of hearts, I get on board with this bet fold line.
Me: Is that Torelli?
Doug: Hides the small cards
Me: It's Torelli 😂
Doug Polk does not approve this fold.
From the line of Dan play, he could only have one combo QT heart, he will never call QTo at turn out position, try to hit gut shoot on the river. The next hand Dan can have is KK and AK, plus some missing draw bluff on river. so set 99 is call on river.
Jason Chen on the turn Q10 would’ve given Dan an open-ended SD, not a gut shot.
@@brandonhammond3413 then, still not fold set to a aggressive player.
@@zche083 From Aaron's perspective, the only hands stronger than 99 he'll ever have here are QhTh or JJ. He'll have plenty of 2-pair combos he cant bet-fold the river like A6s, A9s, KhJh, maybe AJ. With 99 you just have to call it off.
@@Joel-js2gk I have another thought, Dan 3 bet the pot, if he TQ, T8 must suited, 3 bet Un-suited TQ, T8 is too lose.
if Dan pick up a open-end at turn, he likely too continue barrel two street. The player as good as Dan DO NOT often check-call a straight draw at turn and out position, it's a lose play, he may check-rise bluff at turn if he pick a open end or bluff two street. This also can reduce the chance of Dan to have TQs, T8s.
Then Dan value bet hands is AK or KK, bluff hands like missing flash draw, so 99 can be a call at river, but fold is not bad play either.
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Shit, beat me to it lol. Was going to post this exact comment ;x
Lol..that is exactly what I was thinking before I even saw your comment.
You beat me to it. Lol.
Lolz
"He should be re-raising here but a call would be nice to see, folding is also okay here." just learned how to play
Poker is crazy, when I was a beginner I never thought of things like how huge it is for dan to have Q of hearts here
@Jake Green it blocks some of the hands that his opponent could have
@Jake Green it blocks the only combination of Q10 (nut straight) he can have there, as he wouldn’t continue without the heart cause he doesn’t have enough equity.
Honestly... I would've shoved on the turn
@Jake Green Not only he blocks exact QhTh, but also Aaron was never bluff with Qh Flush draws, he would bluff w/ something like 87s. Blocking A is netural as doug says. This is too nitty fold I think cause Aaron cannot have better hand than 99 here other than QhTh just 1 comobo. Sothing like AK is almost same value hand to bluff catch with, but given that he would have would've bet worse than AK & 99, I think both of them are calling.
You accidentally speak for me too, Cap
I shouldn't have folded.
His line doesn't make much sense imo. I would snap with a set here
His line makes complete sense for Q10h, that's specifically what he put him on. Have you ever been faced with this situation for that amount of money? I seriously doubt you would snap.
@@why-even-try-brotendo Totally reasonable fold AP but no folding sets is kind of a good rule. Just gotta be rolled for it when you do get cold decked.
Joe Shaloom would you 3 bet a raise with QTS out of position ? I don’t think he would so I’d snap with a set there also. He has too much AK AJ AQ to be turning into a bluff. Boom. Snap call all day every day
@@Charlie.93 Sometimes I 3 bet raise if I want to isolate with a suited connector. It's not that uncommon. I'm just saying that it's a ton of money and I have no problem with a guy taking some time to figure out the hand. Who knows? Maybe he was trying to figure out if he could still play if he lost to a straight.
"The small blind hides a couple of small cards behind the rest of the mucked cards" beautiful dig Doug
Donkey fold, I'd have called probably after a minute of thinking. He shouldn't be playing at those stakes if he's not prepared to call with a set.
did you ever realize the edm music that used to intro Alec Torelli's vids is the same intro to Reality Kings vids?
Was i the only one thinking "Frodo vs Sam in a Heads up Hand? Jeez"
Fucking lol
Sets. Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew, just don't fold them Mr Frodo.
You done messed up, A-a-ron!
Should've raised the flop. Or bought in smaller. Lol
literally scrolled through just to make sure someone made this comment, well done sir.
Classic
I would’ve bet pot size the turn to really narrow his range to AJ, JJ or draws and if he calls then check check river :)
@@paulicas1 do you realize how far away from good that would be? Why keeps you from studying?
@Awesome Liberal I think he would make less mistakes if he was closer to 100bb, that's all. No use buying in for 200bb if you pull all pikachu when you get check raised all-in for over 100bb more. Lol
In a case like this one, don't value the river if you're not 100% sure to beat your opponent ! "What if he pushes all in ?" should be answered before putting the bet. If the answer is "I'd fold", just check back.
Zarr. You are losing value on most boards. So you wouldn't have bet the river?. Come on.
I think it's pretty exploitable if you'd call 100% of reraises after a river value bet. Sometimes its necessary to see if the other person has you beat on the river. In this case, the other guy made a really good, ballsy bluff and caught him.
Raise I'm flop, size turn bet, check down river. Or just play in a game you can afford.
What's up, sets! Don't fold here!
Exactly the dude goes all In he ain't doing That with trip aces or kings4 he'd value bet
Hugely underrated comment here
...but sfobv his opponent has AA!
Sigh, echoes of Jennifer Tilley.
I would have called in 1.78 seconds
Right...If you're gonna beat me; with a set, you best bring your lunch...:)
GO BROKE WITH A SET, POKER 101
As soon as I saw Torelli at the table I knew you wouldn't let the opportunity slip to say something. Well done.
Some times you’ve just got to keep this game simple, pay or be paid, move onto the next hand. If you can’t move onto the next hand because of bank roll issues you should be a work or playing multi table micro stakes and just enjoy the game 👍
I thought Aaron was gonna suffocate himself, holding that sweater over his nose like that lmao.
I think this:
1) Aaron had around 30% pot odds to call, with a small SPR
2) suppose Dan was in a nutted range like KK+, JJ, QTs
3) we have to consider also stuff like AKo, AKs in Dan's range!
4) and just with a final range of (KK+, JJ, QTs, AK) 99's set is good around 41%, so still +EV to call! if we add in more weak hands like AJ or AQ, it is even better for Aaron!
Anyway, was a weird hand cause Dan's play on the river was pretty much reckless and yes he had some blockers, but I feel him here to be too much confident. Also, cause the SPR was small and Aaron was pretty much committed so it's hard to get good fold equity. I think Aaron was too much nitty here. Nice hand though!
I fold sets all the time and i am up on facebook zinga poker 1billion chips
u started at 1000 billion right?
so sick. Keep crushing bro
Lol idiot
Deepak Varma Stop it🤣🤣🤣please.
A billion is nothing in that game
I love how Dnegs is the advert before Dougs video.
I was taught whenyou play a small pair there is really one goal-flopping a set and that rarely happens if you are gonna get scared to a big river bet you shouldnt be calling reraises with 99
Aaron should be playing $1/2 with $200 max buy-in
$10/$20 Limit, at the top of the list.
I disagree. $40 MAX BUY-IN FOR THIS TUNA!!
there could be some weird levelling thing going on with ranges
@@spartansix8629 As Matusow says: "Kiddie Games Down The Street"
At 11:00 he tries to bait him and pretends to call, watch his wrist and how quickly he looks up to see if he got a reaction...very sneaky
That was actually blatant
Holy shit yeah man I totally missed that, what a sly dog... happy the bluff got through now!
I'm surprised no one has complained about the guy who is playing with his chips. I'm 5 minutes into the video and its starting to get to me. It's like the sound guy gave his chips their own mic. :)
wow that was suspenseful! my heart was racing for the last few minutes. well, i will never forget "Dont fold sets!" thanks for the video
Yeah, that was a savage bluff. He could have definitely had kings there. Savage
Doug ty for being you and helping me improve my game 10 fold. Because of you I'm a killer at the tables. I quit my job for 2 years been makong 100k plus a year playing poker. Happy Turkey day to you my friend and god bless. hilarious not fold he dont belong playing this big if he folds a hand as big as this.
As soon as he picked up the cup of coffee I knew he was folding, lol 😂
"Oh man! my trap worked perfectly!! Now it's time to FOLD"... worst idiot ever..
"You got him in the net, all you gotta do is put the net on him."
Error: brain.exe failed to load commonsense.dll
Either he played too much Minecraft & it corrupted his commonsense.dll ?
Or he was trying to run a 64-bit library inside an 8-bit environment ?
Classical Robbie Rotten net throwing right there.
Allow myself to introduce..... myself
“S’all ya gah do! ... S’all ya gah do!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol alec catching some shrapnel
Deserved, every bit of it.
Hey Doug / anyone, whats up with the way Dan bets 2:43, I guess it's not a string bet, but can you really be holding so many chips and just drop the bottom ones? Is that some kind of weird angle shoot? In any event, seems pretty whack. Thanks for your reply.
i think its fine. i do it myself sometimes as long as he announces
It's not an easy call, but it's a mandatory one based on the action.
iamverysmart
You obviously have never been the victim of a rivered straight all-in ass reaming.
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 how could you put him on a straight theres to much betting before hand to be holding a draw.
@@nicklock8929 - Not talking about here. But you will come across times when a guy has a pair and 4 to a straight and rivers the straight that you never expected and get your ass reamed.
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870
Lmao. That doesn't mean shit. You play your hand the way it would be played in any situation. If they're a river rat, then so be it. But you don't play like shit on the flop, call a fucking 1k raise, buy in for all your worth & bet your solid hand on river to fold to a reraise. That screams bluff 99% of the time. No way dude was chasing a straight, especially a gutter. On the turn you should know he's playing top pair or 2 pair at best. No high limit player is chasing a straight all the way unless you let them. And this dumbass let him act like he was chasing. A-ron fucked up from the second he decided to buy in. What a tard. That's a snap call, no more than 5 seconds to call. If you lose on river card then, that's poker.
Arron might’ve thought Dan had a conservative range that consisted of pair Aces, Pair kings, pair queens and pair jacks etc . It’s not all about the straights you have to look at how they played before and go from there, because there are three hands that could beat him if Dan was a conservative player.
Live tourney nits are so much fun to play against in cash. They're so used to only getting raised by the nuts that they have no problem folding everything. SOOO easy to bluff.
Thing is, in a hypothetical situation would Dan be doing this if he had KK when QTs is in buttons range ? 3bet/Bet/Check-Call/Check-Shove with KK?
Im asking is it Ok to check raise allin on the river with KK on this board giventhat the button could have all his suited QT's in his range because Dan made such a small cbet on the flop, A button player with all QsTs is going to call and peel one off here and/or float very often if he was faced with such a small cbet sizing on the flop right? Basically Im asking if it would be fine to go all in with KK on the river if the Button has all QTs in his range. Thanks
I would say check-shoving with KK is pretty good here. We know Aaron doesn't have AA, and Aaron will most likely pay us off with plenty of two-pair and set combos. So, we're really only worried about QT, but he's just not going to have it that often.
IMO Dan played nothing like KK and nothing like QT. A fairly painless call.
@@Converge3 on the contrary he played exactly like KK. reraise preflop bet on flop check with an ace showing calls turn and check raise all in river. KK is the only hand that would play like this. Aside from small 1k bet on flop
@@leebuki8179 I think Dan could have QhTh here also, but I still think river is a call for Aaron.
There is no way in hell I'm folding a set of 9s there. That is the who point of slow playing, to get top pair all in.
He hit the set on the flop. And just calls a
Thank you Doug, you made me some cash. Two nights ago, I have a set of 5's on a board 5 10 J 8 x. Heads up I bet $25, got raised to $80, I reraised to $200, then he reraised me all-in to $525. I had him covered. I put him on the straight with Q9 or 97. I called because of this video. Doug Polk said don't fold sets. So I didn't. He had the straight with 9 7. The river paired the board with a Jack to make my hand float with the boat.
can't watch the end geesh sets are hard to come by an somebody going all in is a prayer answered
I know the influx of videos is just to advertise the Upswing sale, but it was nice to get a second video this week. We miss you. Also i had a guy at the casino like my Upswing t-shirt.
The problem is the preflop raise he puts him on a big pair and they all got there
Doug, TOO funny but SO understated I ALMOST missed (at 1:15) your casual remark, "The small blind hides a couple of small cards behind the rest of the mucked cards..." LOL!
Could have been worse. Could have listened to your advice and bought crypto
LOL Exactly!!!
Im not following can someone explain
hes making a joke about the crypto scams @@matejpetrovic7312
Id... rethink that if I were you. One single purchase recently was $100M - people with money like that don’t bet on losers. Read about it - statistics don’t lie. But Polk still is lame for quitting poker.
Polk quit poker?? Why
You’re a beast at this poker content you do it once in a while when you do your head and shoulders way better than everyone else
yeah Francisco folded a set last week to Big John and then last night he stacks off with Ace high on the river to Luda Chris.
I mean, have you seen Chris play? I might have snapped in Francisco's seat.
If you're just going to fold to an all in shove on the river there, just check back and take it down. Especially in a cash game like that. Better to win a small pot than lose a big one and if your opponent did have one of those hands you'd be folding to, you don't lose anything else.
Agreed. Don't bet river if you're not prepared to call a shove.
i like making goofy faces when im in a BIG decision for all my chips too!
big fan. its so obvious the range of value dan has at this point (maybe not 999 but ok) and its really just so hard for him to have a bluff except this. really cool shot I think. great for tv
One of the most craziest and proper bluff on the river, respect to Dan. He know where he is at on the river.
I dont tink he put him on a set tho….
Nah he didn’t know where he was ate got lucky other guy was a donkey
I'm so glad Daniel has adds on ur channel. He is no quitter
Bro we super need new videos from you, we are dying here
The subtle shot at terrelli at the beginning was gold
I like your vids Doug but do you really need to have all his tanking time in the vid?
Keeps it more real I suppose
some of us like watching it, for those who dont skipping forward in the video is really easy! seems like a win win
Yeah, I personally always loved seeing poker players tank (as long as they have tough decisions), even if they take 8 minutes. I think it's fun to see them think really hard for a lot of money. But I agree that it's not quite as appealing when you know the outcome because of the title.
Also use the time to study the player may identify tells etc plus gives the opportunity to practice spotting them. It's not always about the cards.
I genuinely thought the video got funnier the longer he tanked. It was ridiculous this wasn't a snap call, it got more ridiculous watching him contort his face into scaring himself off.
Hey Doug: The kid who folded 99 was playing scared money. Not everyone is ready to play at these levels simply because they don't have the money to do it.The majority of Americans don't have 50k readily available. Poker at the high stakes level changes much of the dynamic of the game itself. For 50k you aren't folding the 99 because you are a millionaire. Where AQ shoved all-in the other guy was shitting in his pants! 50k is a a nightclub with friends, bottles and sluts for you.
Honestly, poker is a real waste of money that could be used for significantly better ventures rather than sitting at a card table with men all day hoping that your set won't get busted by some loose cannon or Uber-rich dude who sucked out to a straight. Poker is you win some and you lose most. I would have to have millions of dollars to comfortable go and plunk $50,000 onto the table and not care if you lose it. If you only have $500,000 10% of your network is depleted on the basis of losing one single hand assuming the buy in is $50,000 minimum. It is a terrible fucking investment for anybody, never mind the kid who was quivering in his fruit of the looms over potentially losing his stack.
The shirt over the face image is ridiculous wow. I couldn't imagine being a Rec player and having my opponent look like this bozo.
Lot of people do this to hide subtle facial expressions humans give away unintended...when you're sitting down with 50k+ you try to gain any advantage you can and that includes this kind of stuff. It'd be really stupid not to do it if you have facial tells.
@@bradmundies425 I understand why they do it (obviously). It looks absolutely ridiculous. Your explanation is spot on, but I still think it's extremely awful for the game.
@@brandaccount5941 maybe for you, but for me, it's been quite the life :)
Amen to that, what a moron
lol you cant say it looks absolutely ridiculous if he is doing it for a reason lol. What would be ridiculous would be if he hid und er the table every hand lol@@JeffHoopAdventure
the key to this is that Aaron played his set too weak. Zack had no idea he was this strong, thus setting up the balls to have him go all in on the river. Aaron's bet sizing was too small imo, but moreso an issue was he took so long to agonize over his betting... he looked weak to Zack when in fact he had a totally hidden monster. Attitude is everything
Love that youre keeping up with the scene Doug, brings me hope you could play again one day! Im supposed to be completing some coursework for my accounting degree right now but priorities called
Not sure but I think I figured out Aarons "tell"... It was really hard to spot but; If you payed laser focused attention, you might just catch it at 8:34
All those stupid face gestures and still finds a fold.
While letting the guy next to him see his hand, so he has a little more information to use against him later.
If you're going to fold to the shove here, why go for value on the river? Check it back, or commit.
Kind of like the show there at the end - not a bad idea to let table see some of the more extreme low-frequency plays
Man you know how many funny memes are gonna be made from all those grunts and funny faces😂😂😂😂😂🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Maybe he folded cuz he needed the $ for a big turkey for Thanksgiving... Or maybe cuz he felt like a 🦃
Hilarious seeing a Dnegs ad for his master class before your video starts.
Its a bad bluff the guy with AQ knows hes behind he cant beat anything but a rag ace. The other guy folding dosnt make sense to me you cant put him on a straight and if he had pocket kings then why would you be betting with the ace on the table. I would of put my opponent on ak 2 pair its an easy call.
you read my mind..I was like how can Goug say he has pocket kings here..
well it actually makes sense that he could have had KK. 3bet pre, small cbet on the Ace flop to see where he was and maaaaybe he would have folded on the flop to a x3 raise. Since he got called, he just slowed down on the turn and went check-call. Maybe he sensed the weak Ace, like A5-A10 suited from the button call preflop and was planning to donk him on the river. I'm not saying I would put him on that, but he actually could have had that hand.
I'm sorry but you guys look like micro-limit grinders where everyone is snap calling with rags lol
there's like 3 2 pairs that sam wise can have and fold that Frodo can go after. its not likely he's targeting 999 or whatever here. with that said the 999 fold was stupid I think you have to call because of distribution. what else are you going to call with
i have a question.
i call raise from early position unknown player with ah4h.
flops Ad Jc 5h
i have top pair weak kicker and backdoor flush draw
shoud i call cb?
how about without backdoordraw?
folks save time and watch last 30 seconds
Appreciate it, way to much diagnosis in this vid
does it make sense to fold a set on a one to the straight (or flush) board? i feel like in that case it does.
I think so but in that situation you would have no reason to bet the river.
I like Doug's energy - i almost never understand his thoughts out loud
This message is for Doug, who posted the video. I appreciate your insight and advice, for sure. I would also appreciate you using terms that someone new to the game, like me, understands. I spent many times searching terms you used in the video, but it got to the point where that became just too much so I proceeded watching without understanding it all. If this is for viewers who are supposed to know the terms you've used, then ok, but if you are welcoming to new players, I know I would've learned much more had I understood what you were saying. I also understand one can learn from exposure, but I would suggest maybe finessing your speech just a bit on your part, you know, for us newbies. Or not. Thanks bro.
"If this is for viewers who are supposed to know the terms you've used, then ok," It is.
In all seriousness though, this isn't some super-advanced theoretical video, and the terms he uses are pretty basic. Outside of "merged range", I don't recall hearing a single term that a typical player (including fairly new ones) either doesn't know or can't figure out the meaning through context. What are some things you didn't understand?
Thanks. As I watch more, I see what you mean - this isn't catered to new comers. As I just finished my second day at the casino tables, I've learned a bunch of the terms I didn't understand just a few days ago (with still much to learn). Disregard my earlier sentiment and I will learn through context.
And I couldn't list all the terms I didn't understand :)
Where'd ya go uncle doug?
If you check the turn with draw possibilities on the board, unless you are bleeding your opponent with a monster made hand and you are hoping he will catch up to a lesser hand, that check has a possible negative expectation that becomes a positively negative one if the opponent makes a gutshot or open-ended straight on the river. Checking the turn is a bad play because it gives him infinite odds to draw out on you...and that's not a winning strategy.
I think you underestimate how unbalanced river XR can be in livepoker. Folding against a lot of players on midstakes even with a set of 9s doesnt seem to unreasonable. This game is obv highstakes and rather an exception...
It’s just that the way the hand was played, there’s one combo in the deck Dan has here that’s beating a set, and it’d be an awfully loose 3-bet pre.
Doug isn't talking about that. Also even live I'd be hesitant folding here since TONS of people play AK in this manner.
Dan is a pro, and is 100% capable of having bluffs in this spot. More importantly, if you are folding 99 in this spot you are folding your entire range except ~1.5 combos of QTs. When you are at top of range and get raised you cannot fold unless your opponent is a total fish and only has the nuts and you know that for a fact, otherwise you are much too exploitable to the line in question.
5 and 1/2 to 1. Horrible fold.
@@MarkH10 Where are you getting 5.5 to 1?
Great to see more poker videos coming up man
That needle at Alex in the beginning is fantastic I love it. He is such a scum bag, he is trying to sell a course on FB, I commented if there was a angle shooting part of the course and he deleted my comment and made it so I can’t comment on his posts and advertisements. It’s not like I’m making stuff up or spreading lies about him, the guy can’t accept the truth.
The key is Aaron never bet on the river, if he had the nuts I doubt he would check the last bet. Making a set even stronger to call an all in, at some point Aaron picked up Dan was nervous.
Agreed. Good point.
Doug you're going on the milk carton, no one's seen you bro
I have played NLHE at all stakes from 1-2 to 25-50. The higher you go in stakes and the DEEPER the stacks, the probability of bullying goes WAY up. You can successfully call huge bets light at higher limits. I have been in this type of situation before and while a check raise on the river does usually indicate a strong hand and in this particular spot, there was a chance he was slow-playing aces or spiked a K, but AK is even more likely and the combo of strength of hand and pot commitment makes it an instacall IMO.
If you just go ALL IN on the flop you don't get bluffed like that on the river .... keep it simple
Bad play. Checking back the river is best if you're scared getting bluffed.
You won't make any $ by flopping a set ,if you goes all in on the flop. Your opponent only committed $2700 and both of you are very deep in stacks. But from your logic you don't have to deal with stress with playing poker on the river. It's the high stakes game, people who can't afford it then they shouldn't be in the game in the first place. just my opinions.
Guys ..this comment is a joke/troll lol 😎
You wont make any money long term, only a set ia calling u on flop...
Yep👍
Is there any rake on live at the bike show?
No, and that's why Daniel Negreanu does not play there.
Why would he not play becaude thetr isnt a rake?
@@nicholashicks472 i wonder because doug also played at live at the bike
Ya done messed up A A Ron
This is one of those spots where you have to just take a deep breath and say if he's got a bigger set or rivered the straight then it's just a cooler, and call, and over the long run such spots will even themselves out, Dan just has Two pair or pair of aces too often here to fold.
Excellent comment. I agree.
I love Angle Torelli!
You mistyped, "Angel", the New Age 'spiritual' leader.
He thought about it too much at the end. Talked himself out of making the gut instinct hero call.
Its different when it's literally your money your betting.
true
I think JJ is also a reasonable hand to have here. C bet flop, check call turn after hitting his set and check jamming river makes a lot of sense
"Hides a couple cards....". I love it. I have seen 4 videos covering Torellis' lack of personal character, the first of which was on his own channel. I unsubbed him on the basis of the analysis he tried on his own hand, and thoughts on his own channel. I stated then that the only pure, integrity response was to return the extra.
The Age 'spiritual' gobbledygook gave way to Corporate CS type response to me, 'thanking' me for my 'concern'. I can't stand that FAKE ASS THIEF.
LMFAO some Alec Torelli shots right there, man i love Doug sense of humor and irony
*Haha when God gives you gold you return it thinking its poop*
Hahahahah, that Fkin smile when he folda from dan😂😂😂