I don't think he would have had a messed up arm for life or anything. He just would have had to take a lot longer off for it to heal, and probably have a surgery or two on it.
I pain-trained for years. Like Sylvia, I took it too far. I now have lifelong injuries that I never felt. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but now I'm thinking a little pain is good for you!
Uneducated crowds back then. That arm snapped. And yes after the fight he went to the hospital and it was indeed broken. You can see it starting to swell after the fight.
I was there. The fans weren't uneducated. You couldn't see it snap in the seats obviously. Plus Tim was acting like there was nothing wrong. Quit being a turd.
Not so uneducated but it was a championship fight and they wanted to see a fight and to them it seemed like the ref called it without Timothy PED Sylvia tapping. Little Joey Rogain seemed pretty irritated with the crowd though as well but yeah Frank Murr won but honestly...let them fight. If you don't tap it ain't over...Sylvia was foolish going to the ground with Murr though
If you notice very carefully when Mir and Silvia started chatting his right forearm muscles were already swelling and looking bigger than his left forearm. It was broken…
Tom was favouring the arm afterwards, hardly moving it..nice call 🌿 Herb. It was only going to get worse.❤ Herb's the man. That lock was on and about to be cinched tighter.
Oh for sure, that was one of the best calls in that situation..Hell fast forward to big Nog you know Mir had to have had that go through his mind when he got Nog's arm he was going to break it in half no doubt. It sucks for them but damn Mir has beautiful technique, hell that's why you tap so that doesn't happen. Now you're out healing for months what would you rather do?
Amazing thing is Tim was still raring to go despite knowing his forearm broke. The pain wasn’t setting in yet with all that adrenaline coursing through his veins.
Oh my God, I will never forget this fight and the moment Tim Sylvia broke his hand...the problem is that he didn't feel any pain and the referee and paramedics were telling him his hand was broken
Different fighters at this point then when they fought later. Mir was arguably the best heavyweight BJJ wise to ever fight. Maybe besides noguera. Fedor may of beaten them... Maybe. But he was not just walking through no one
Tim in Power Slap could be very interesting. Frank was one of my Guys back in the Day. After that motorcycle accident he was never the same fighter. Franks Son has pretty solid skills to one day follow his Fathers foot steps.
Look how young Bruce Buffer was. At this point in time, Bruce was getting to the fights on his Schwinn Bicycle. Of course today he has his Drivers License.
He broke it. Sylvia not to long ago did and interview talking about the screws and plates used to repair it had started corrosion and was causing him pain and I believe blood poisoning issues 🙆 He was wanting the ufc to help him with medical bills 💯
I could be wrong, but Herb seems to have the most controversial calls that turn out to be right. I remember the same thing happened in the Lawler/Askren fight.
Wher do u get sore loser from wen he never tapped? I don't understand sum comments wen u cud not do wat this man did. If ur arm wud hav ben put n that position, u probably wud hav ben screaming lik a girl getn her pulled😂😂😂
You know what, i'm gonna say it, sylvia is underrated There're so many other ufc fighters who get way more credit for doing far less than what sylvia did, sylvia fought everyone they threw at him without any complains, it's not his fault that the heavyweight division was so shallow back then
É realmente é difícil de entender o ser humano. O Silvia já com o braço quebrado e a turma vaiado a vitória limpa e clara do Frank.. francamente viu . Queria que Silvia continuasse a lutar sem o braço é... ? . Gostam tanto do ídolo assim , a ponto de querer vê lo sem braço é kkkk sinceramente viu KKK ser humano é mesmo bicho complicado ...
nah. it's a monkey brain. They want violence. They pay for a show and the show ends after 50 seconds. They're not stupid, they just feel scammed out of their money
Silvia KNEW his arm was broken. He had to go to the hospital and had pins put in his arm. Yeah he's a tough guy but I always thought he was a little bitch for not admitting to the crowd his arm was broken and giving the credit to Mir.
Se o árbitro deixa seguir e o cara quebra o braço, o árbitro é o culpado; se ele interrompe, tbm é culpa dele por parar a luta cedo demais... and now?! Tremenda farsa do Sylvia... ele sabia que estava com o braço quebrado... e a entrevista dele?! Deveria ter se posicionado; se o fez, não sabemos.
Typical moronic response by Rogan about Sylvia's positive steroid test & suspension. He didnt take it for performance reasons, he took steroids to look better and to get a 6 pack. Seriously? That is absolutely ridiculous. After Silvia popped for roids, his performances dropped off dramatically. On another note does anyone remember how he was still the champ? He had gotten popped for Roids before this fight & was suspended
This is why, refs who were fighters themselves, are needed. Herb Dean made a great call, and even Sylvia praised Herb Dean after.
We all know this.
Herb knew exactly what he saw... that arm was indeed broken...
Yeah, the last thing that Herb wanted to do was make a bullshit call. Herb knew what happened (y)
LOOKED LIKE A BREAKER To
me
Had Herb Dean not stopped it when he did, Sylvia would've had a prosthetic arm the rest of his life because Mir would've taken it home with him.
😂
And Sylvia wouldn’t have become a two time UFC champ.
I don't think he would have had a messed up arm for life or anything. He just would have had to take a lot longer off for it to heal, and probably have a surgery or two on it.
Great call by the ref. That arm was in trouble. Tim was a tough animal at that time too. But frank rightfully won that fight
Sylvia appeared to be in no pain whatsoever. Crazy tolerance
I pain-trained for years. Like Sylvia, I took it too far. I now have lifelong injuries that I never felt. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but now I'm thinking a little pain is good for you!
@@horizonblack "Pain-trained". LOL. Talk about made-up bullshit.
@@kommisar. If you say so.
Cannot believe this was twenty years ago.
@@stevenalaniz7168 his arm is still messed up.
Mir broke Silvia's radius and possibly the ulna. Then Frank held the sub. Great arm bar!
Uneducated crowds back then. That arm snapped. And yes after the fight he went to the hospital and it was indeed broken. You can see it starting to swell after the fight.
Yes, it broke in two places. Herb Dean was perfect in his decision.
Crowd didn’t know. Mir didn’t even know. Sylvia said it was fine and wanted to fight on. Once it was shown on the replay everyone got it
I was there. The fans weren't uneducated. You couldn't see it snap in the seats obviously. Plus Tim was acting like there was nothing wrong. Quit being a turd.
Fr.... Dude was literally arguing that his arm was NOT broken to the ref. You think the fans aren't going to believe him?
Not so uneducated but it was a championship fight and they wanted to see a fight and to them it seemed like the ref called it without Timothy PED Sylvia tapping. Little Joey Rogain seemed pretty irritated with the crowd though as well but yeah Frank Murr won but honestly...let them fight. If you don't tap it ain't over...Sylvia was foolish going to the ground with Murr though
That's why Herb was among the best in the business
😅😅😅😅. Naw lol
Was. Now he's either inept or paid off..
@@yommmrr He's still a great ref. He has some controversial calls no doubt, but he's been right in all of them.
“Oh, shit!” - herb dean
fUNNY THING , when
ever a herb is around somebody loses
Excellent stoppage by an excellent ref
Nice stoppage herb dean
For real
The same as with "elite" fighter's who set themselves on levels above tge rest. The same can be said about the refs and HERB
U gotta love both fighters for wanting to keep going. And Mir for being 100% honest and Tim for being so tough
Frank Mir could’ve been one of the lone reigning champions in the UFC had it not been for his motorcycle accident
Naw lol. Brock beat the brakes off him
@@joshuastefanick4806 this was way before Brock. Back when Frank Mir beat Tim Sylvia
@joshuastefanick4806 2nd time. Mir won the first fight
@@masterp2269I've never forgotten that nasty knee bar.
@@joshuastefanick4806 He and Brock are 1 and 1
If you notice very carefully when Mir and Silvia started chatting his right forearm muscles were already swelling and looking bigger than his left forearm. It was broken…
Tom was favouring the arm afterwards, hardly moving it..nice call 🌿 Herb. It was only going to get worse.❤ Herb's the man. That lock was on and about to be cinched tighter.
Oh for sure, that was one of the best calls in that situation..Hell fast forward to big Nog you know Mir had to have had that go through his mind when he got Nog's arm he was going to break it in half no doubt. It sucks for them but damn Mir has beautiful technique, hell that's why you tap so that doesn't happen. Now you're out healing for months what would you rather do?
@@gfreeman9843who’s Tom ?
@@durawins Tim.. sorry 😐
Amazing thing is Tim was still raring to go despite knowing his forearm broke. The pain wasn’t setting in yet with all that adrenaline coursing through his veins.
That intro music. Miss it so much
Oh my God, I will never forget this fight and the moment Tim Sylvia broke his hand...the problem is that he didn't feel any pain and the referee and paramedics were telling him his hand was broken
Armgate was it broken was it not this feels like it was yesterday, loved these old school times in the UFC
I remember this fight from way back.
These were the heavyweights Dana claimed fedor was ducking in the ufc at this point in time. He finished both.
Different fighters at this point then when they fought later. Mir was arguably the best heavyweight BJJ wise to ever fight. Maybe besides noguera. Fedor may of beaten them... Maybe. But he was not just walking through no one
Tim in Power Slap could be very interesting. Frank was one of my Guys back in the Day. After that motorcycle accident he was never the same fighter. Franks Son has pretty solid skills to one day follow his Fathers foot steps.
Flawless victory for Mir. He throws a kick overhand right from Tim armbar done. I do believe Tim could fought on. The refs made the right call
Mir is a legend and pioneer of mma. Totally deserving of ufc hof(not that's very credible) just would be cool
I agree. He fought anyone he was offered and beat most of em. For that matter Tim Silvia ought to be there too.
I agree.
Great Doctor work. 😆.
Did not do any ulnar and radius traction, or palpations to check for crepitus.
She moved the elbow.
Thanks nurse
Frank Mir on Tank Abbot: "my submission skills are that much better than his".. Tank had no submission skills..
Francisco Miranda is a vato loco, crazy how that arm popped
Man I respected the hell outa both of these guys tim and frank so tough. Wish they could've kept fighting
I used to have the dvd
Thats how we used to have to watch them. DVDs and Spike Tv
Look how young Bruce Buffer was. At this point in time, Bruce was getting to the fights on his Schwinn Bicycle. Of course today he has his Drivers License.
Roided out Silvia was a beast!
He broke it. Sylvia not to long ago did and interview talking about the screws and plates used to repair it had started corrosion and was causing him pain and I believe blood poisoning issues 🙆
He was wanting the ufc to help him with medical bills 💯
Yea cuz 20 years ago they used plain steel that rusts
Mir stated he will break your arm instead waiting for his opponent to tap
You do what you have to do to win.
@@H.K.5 especially in a street fight .
"Just takes steroids for the six pack" Yeah sure Joe.
When ads come on, the video goes off. It's not a good idea for anyone who wants something to be watched.
Shut your mouth boy
Announcer - "Sylvia is not a big partier."
Sylvia - "bro, do you not notice my tribal tatts?"
Dang Frank's a savage!!! But Tim?!?!? WTF?!?!? His pain tolerance is OFF THE CHARTS!!! That's one tough SOB!!!
"Frank Mir didn't want to win his championship in THIS fashion."! Dude he BROKE HIS ARM lol. God people were so annoying then.
That woman clearly has Never seen an Arm Get broken Before 🙄
I could be wrong, but Herb seems to have the most controversial calls that turn out to be right. I remember the same thing happened in the Lawler/Askren fight.
Frank Mir! One of the GREATEST fighters EVER!
why in the hell would Silvia go for the take down lmao
Sylvia tried to scam everyone, walking around shaking his head, rather than admit he lost; sore loser.
Wher do u get sore loser from wen he never tapped? I don't understand sum comments wen u cud not do wat this man did. If ur arm wud hav ben put n that position, u probably wud hav ben screaming lik a girl getn her pulled😂😂😂
You know what, i'm gonna say it, sylvia is underrated
There're so many other ufc fighters who get way more credit for doing far less than what sylvia did, sylvia fought everyone they threw at him without any complains, it's not his fault that the heavyweight division was so shallow back then
Tough break for Sylvia no pun intended
LMAO😂😂😂
he wants to continue - so frank can break his other arm
É realmente é difícil de entender o ser humano. O Silvia já com o braço quebrado e a turma vaiado a vitória limpa e clara do Frank.. francamente viu . Queria que Silvia continuasse a lutar sem o braço é... ? . Gostam tanto do ídolo assim , a ponto de querer vê lo sem braço é kkkk sinceramente viu KKK ser humano é mesmo bicho complicado ...
São os fãs de merda sem empatia
Não respeitam o próximo 😏
Bando de falsos e ingratos.
Tim Silva was so dishonest the way he tried to make Herb look like a liar when he knew his arm was broken.
I've broken bones before and it hurts like a sob. For him not to know is unreal to me. I understand adrenaline but daang
10 or 15 minutes after, he was asking for Oxy.
Good stoppage
Tim brought the arm break up during his appearance on "Blind Date". Watch it if you haven't for some real awkwardness.
if they was booing at the end theyre stupid lol
nah. it's a monkey brain. They want violence. They pay for a show and the show ends after 50 seconds. They're not stupid, they just feel scammed out of their money
Silvia KNEW his arm was broken. He had to go to the hospital and had pins put in his arm. Yeah he's a tough guy but I always thought he was a little bitch for not admitting to the crowd his arm was broken and giving the credit to Mir.
Im no pro fighter, but if you are abel to fight and after the cut are ok? No arm is broken?
Herb Dean is the very best of the best. He's smart it was just unfortunate for tim
Remember that time Tim pooped 💩 himself during a fight
That wasn't Tim Sylvia that pooped himself.
@WWJD799 search it and then say no it wasn't him
You know everything from your coach, Right! Did you follow him there??😮
When you post. Please indicate the F'ing year.
Google it dork
Herb Dean said he heard the arm break. He didn't see it.
Frank was such a studd back then before his accident, the audience dumb af back then they are slightly smarter now lol just a lil fr
Grande Frank Mir heavy Weigert champ ion the world
Name of Tim sylvia music
10:46 *YEAH THAT SHYT LOOKED NAAAAASTY!!!*
dense ass crowd lmao
Boo!!!? WTF!! His frecken arm broke!!
Se o árbitro deixa seguir e o cara quebra o braço, o árbitro é o culpado; se ele interrompe, tbm é culpa dele por parar a luta cedo demais... and now?! Tremenda farsa do Sylvia... ele sabia que estava com o braço quebrado... e a entrevista dele?! Deveria ter se posicionado; se o fez, não sabemos.
Typical moronic response by Rogan about Sylvia's positive steroid test & suspension. He didnt take it for performance reasons, he took steroids to look better and to get a 6 pack. Seriously? That is absolutely ridiculous. After Silvia popped for roids, his performances dropped off dramatically. On another note does anyone remember how he was still the champ? He had gotten popped for Roids before this fight & was suspended
Why you can never pay for ufc
8:44 Herb Dean 😲 Oh Shit!
Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! FIGHT IS OVER!!! FIGHT IS OVER!!!
Frank Murrr
Francisco Santos Miranda aka Frank Mir 🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺🇨🇺
That's bull we know paid off 😊
This is the most disgusting crowd.
Did Sylvia actually want to go on the ground? Dumb if so.
There was a weird anti Mir thing going on for awhile.
He admitted his mistake? He cheated on purpose!
Sylvia, ya estaba perdido, aunque reclame
They should've let them keep fighting tim doesn't seem in pain bad refing
Dude you are literally a mouth breather. Sit down.
Smh
Those fighters who only wins by submission are the real weak fighter.
They can break each one of your limbs one by one, and then finish you off by making you unconscious with a choke-hold. Yeah, very weak.
@@Jenkins1155 submission is just a technique to escape the heavy punch of the opponent.
4 month suspension for PED's? That's just a training camp.
This was the beginning of prime ufc
He never even said ouch! Don't broken arms hurt??? It did not break!
I broke both of mine at the same time 4 bones...they actually felt numb, not much pain.
lol Shaq
Back when Sylvia was on the roids lol.
Mir was a overrated fighter he was only good on the ground...and his stand up game was average
Roid boy
He was so juiced up..