I saw Fogerty live during the Blue Moon Swamp tour and when he introduced the band he described Kenny as 'the best in the business '. The admiration was mutual.
I spent close to 9 months working on that album. And worked with a lot of drummers during that album, but I left before the end (that album spent over 5 years.) most of the time it was one song each day. We changed the Kick drum head everyday. Snare head about every four or five takes. Bob Gluab was the bassist for most of those tracks. There was another bassist but I can’t remember his name after all these years.
Kenny is an excellent drummer and obviously a very cool guy and a real 'team player' I admire that. I'm an ex pro drummer from years ago and sadly didn't get along with most due to their massive egos, you have to be able to listen to suggestions for it to work like Kenny does!
I used to say that "the hardest part about playing the drums,.. was dealing with the guitar player's egos!" 🤪 It's one thing if you're working with a musical genius, an actual professional player & writer. But when you're just a cover band, and the guitar player is a pompous ass,... that's another!!
John used to play the annual kids/parents talent show every spring at a school where our kids both attended. My band the Grateful Dads always played the penultimate set, then celebrity dad John would close the show. He always played the Creedence songs so we could all sing along, even though he wouldn’t play them in public at that time. The third year we did this, I was asked - few days ahead of the show - to stay and drum for his set. I was excited and flattered, but nervous as hell because of the stories I’d read about how he could be tough on drummers. I practiced the whole catalogue like crazy, and thought I was ready. So I haul my drums backstage a few hours before the talent show, and there’s another set there already. Yup, even though it was just a casual school talent show for about 200 parents and kids, at the last minute he booked a studio drummer and bass player for his set. I must admit I was relieved! And it was a great, rockin’ show.
Learning drums over 30 yrs ago, I bought one of Kenny's CD's while he was with Mellancamp. The CD started out with Rain on the Scarecrow. I was most impressed with his comment when he said about what is my favorite Mellancamp song "Between a Laugh and a Tear," that the song "did not call for it" meaning a fast or or complex grandiose drum part. Just solid time keeping and feeling of the song. I think Simon Phillips is of the same philosophy. A good drumer is like the ocean. By yourself in the middle of the ocean, you have nothing, and can die on the open ocean from thirst, but being on a beach or an overview of the ocean, it attracts billions of people. No matter where you are on this planet, if you are at the shoreline, you are conected to the planet: from the shore of Boracay, Philippine to Pitcairn Island from Elephant Island in Antarctica, to Homer, Alaska. You are universally connected by the sea, just as a drummer is connected to all styles of music. A good drummer brings the ocean to music and suddenly makes it come alive. Was an orthopedic surgeon, world traveler, licensed pilot , certified scuba diver etc etc but now almost like a childless couple who took up drums too late when I was 37, am frustrated and despondent that my struggles on the drums, after 33 years , now have to accept the fact that now at 69, it is too late. I never realized that despite the simple time keeping and beat that he drums bring to music, there is a universe of different styles, acents, licks, gooves, chops, or what ever you want to call them out there, just as each drummer has his unique personality, as if his own finger print or retina scan to identify him or her as unique. Back to my kit.
Love your writing style - very evocative. As another 69 year old drummer who played pro for 50 years, I'm facing the "dying of the light' with as much protest as possible. I just learned a new one hand roll technique that will keep me busy mastering for months.....all thanks to people who are determined to examine the craft and experiment. Keep drumming until they shovel dirt on us.
Total respect to Kenny, and I would see him with John Fogerty in a heartbeat. I also feel the original CCR rhythm section was great - just listen to Down on the Corner, it doesn't get any better than that.
My kids took me to a John Fogerty concert on September of 2015. It was something I had wanted since I was a kid myself. They were amazing. Both my kids and John Fogerty.
I saw that tour in Denver and even got a recording of it,somewhere during the show you can hear somebody say “Kenny’s beating the shit out of those drums!” It was a great show and I got to meet John and Julie afterwards,great down to earth guy.
I’ve met John and Kenny on the Blue Moon Swamp. Nice guys and incredible musicians. My former professor Jon Lowson was nominated for a Grammy for engineer on Blue Moon Swamp.
Sure, Buddy Holly was cutting tape. but was he manually quantizing drum tracks on tape?? splicing is not the same as manually editing a sloppy drum track into a solid back beat.
Since Kenny hasn't been out with him the show hasn't sounded the same. Kennys just a power hitter that has that accuracy and speed everytime. The best.
Saw the Blue Moon Swamp tour in Denver in 1997 2nd row at the Paramount Theatre. An hour after the show John walked with Julie at his side,I called out to him and I think he recognized me and walked right over and talked to us,shook our hands and signed my concert ticket,a cd and a guitar. He was really nice and pleasant over all. Nice memories!
Kenny, John mellencamp, and John Fogerty all have an Indiana connection. Fogerty married his wife in Elkhart Indiana after meeting her during a concert in Indianapolis back in 1986. John and his wife then lived there for awhile.
I heard a little rumour tha Kenny has 4 pairs of smaller glasses on underneath those huge ones he wears ... like the Russian Dolls of spectacles ...I'm just kidding ! I'm a huge ,huge admirer of Mr Kenny Aronoff . Just a little levity on a cold ,Winter Saturday afternoon , 6000 miles away .
Some people are born geniuses, and the sooner you recognize that if you’re in a band with them, the sooner you get out of the way, and give the music a chance to breathe, that’s chemistry.
Music the way it ought to be…Classic all the way around…talent and commitment rock. I was pleased Mr.Fogerty released all his albums on High Resolution files…AWESOME! Nice interview. Learn a little every day.
It sounds like JF used the same principal as Walter and Donald did in Steely Dan. As Dean Parks said, " They would practice us to get to perfection, then practice more to get to where it sounded natural". If first saw KA play on the Premonition tour. To me, he breathed new life into songs like "Ol Man Down The Road", "Swamp River Days" and "Almost Saturday Night". KA was a perfect fit.
I talked to someone who was on his road crew for a while, and she said most of the people on the crew thought he was a jerk. They used to call him "Chucky".
I saw John at Wembley Arena 2007 with Kenny on drums, I've been a Fogerty devotee since 1969.It was a night that will live in my memory till I die. I was seriously ill at the time and only made it because my sis inlaw came with me (we travelled 200 miles), but without me knowing some friends in the America contacted John and told him about me. When we arrived Bob came over and started pushing my wheelchair, I thought ' what happening here' after going through corridors we came out backstage. I saw Kenny and the band chillin and it was 'wow' then John, I think Julie was with him. He came toward me and I was not gonna be sat in a wheelchair when I meet my hero. I stood up and he took my hand. First thing he said was. "Like the shirt" it was the same as John's, he chatted like he already knew me, told me they were coming to play the Royal Albert Hall next year and hoped I'd be there. I was so shocked to go meet him I never had my camera with me, didn't even think to ask for his autograph. He was so gracious and for a little while the crippling pain I was in disappeared. He said it was time to go on stage so we said goodbye. I don't know how long we chatted I was on cloud nine lol. I heard the start of "Travelin Band" then Bob took me to a balcony overlooking the stage. My sis in law was already there, but my tickets where not for such a great view. I must admit the pain came back and I was in agony for the rest of the night and had to go back in hospital the next day. I'd only been home a few days before I travelled to London. It took nearly a year to get well but I wasn't well enough for the Albert Hall Concert sadly. I managed to see John Again at the London 02 arena with my son, who's listened to CCR and John since the day he was born virtually lol. Kenny has easily been the best drummer John has ever had, he put's the Rock in John's Rock n Roll.
I remember a quote from John Fogerty years ago where he was talking about how the other guys in Creedence wanted to write and sing their own songs and put them on the next album. He said something like, and I'm paraphrasing, "I told them, guys I have the formula. It works. I don't want to go back to washing dishes for a living."
Same thing as John Kay and Steppenwolf, the other guys saw the success and money coming in from the first two albums and thought "me too", Kay left them do some songs on the "At your birthday party" album and it was a step down from the first two albums. It had some moments, but not as solid as the other ones. Same with CCR and the "Mardi Gras" album, the other guys had some songs on there, not too bad, but not up to the usual standard. And Kay told the guys that were fired from the band "I'm not going back to starving because of someone's immaturity", sounds a lot like Fogerty, doesn't it?
@@obiobiwan9268 You left out the part where he refused to sing any of the songs he didn't write. All they wanted to do was contribute a little bit more than they were being allowed to but Fogerty's massive ego wouldn't allow that. He also made stupid business decisions that cost them millions of dollars.
Aronoff is not the Best Drummer in the World but the Best Drummer in the World sends him a Christmas Card every year out of respect. Yeah, he is really that good !
I knew nothing about Fogerty before "The Old Man Down The Road", Top 40 Radio in the 80's being so myopic. He wrote and performed catchy song after catchy song, he is legend.
Myopic? Stylistically, top 40 radio in the 80's was the most diverse in history. You had everything from Dolly Parton to Taco Puttin' on the Ritz to RUN DMC to Bon Jovi, Men at Worl, Toto, Madonna and Prince... so much variety
@@richardthompson6366 Really? Metallica Master of Puppets, The Cure Disintegration, Guns n' Roses Appetite for Destruction, Peter Gabriel So, Jane's Addiction Nothing's Shocking, Nine Inch Nails Pretty Hate Machine... are stagnant??
I saw the CCR inducted into the rock n Roll hall of fame. The original drummer Doug Clifford thanked the other 2 band mates, but not John Fogerty. He must have gotten the 4 hour treatment over and over until he was sick and tired of it!
When Green River was released in 69 I don’t believe we at that time dissected the song or the band or the technical arrangements or the meaning in the lyrics. That generation in time knew what a great song was and Green River had a beat that rocked. It’s like when Won’t Get Fooled Again came out… it’s the progression from Cant Buy Me Love upto these hits and what classic rock evolved from and in to. Fogherty was a catalyst that created we just didn’t know how intricate he was.
Saw Fogerty with Aronoff in 2006. Aronoff with his drumming put the whole show to the next level. Otherworldly! 2 years later he had another drummer. A nameless cat from Nashville. It was ok because all songs belong to the soundtrack of my life. But it was not great. Aronoff was missed badly!
In CCR's day, nobody knew how to remove a section of tape, and scotch tape it back together?? In the early 60's I was watching an uncle do it on his reel to reel, so I think a LOT of people knew how to do it, it was commonplace.
Yes indeed, in the Blue Swamp Tour, John and the band played CCR hits, but John did it in a rush, acelerated tempo, and sounds a little bitter because there was the others Clifford and Cook's "band" CCRevisited who played the songs exactly like the originals records, even doing the same voice like John... 🇲🇽✌😎
@@adamiusrex Yeah, I met them all a week apart in Eugene for Fogerty and Salem OR for Stu and Doug, along with Elliot Easton who was pretty cool too. Stu and Doug did the open string, ching ching sound and drive of original CCR, JCF put on quite a different sound, often due to Kenny himself and his heavy hitting style. Just different, thats all.
Last time I saw Fogerty a few years ago, he had his son's band backing him up. John used to have some of the best musicians in the business (including Kenny Aronoff) as his band. Sound just wasn't the same. Enjoyable but not great.
Of course they cut tape back in the day. That was common place for editing. Every studio had a splicing block, tape, and a yellow grease pencil. Where are you getting your history from ? That kind of stuff went on, in studios, long before John ever set foot in a studio.
I'm from that recording era and remember 2" tapes, retakes, splicing tape at the recording console, etc, etc. Years later, as the digital recording age emerged I sold all my reel to reel equipment, set up a simple digital recording studio and no matter what most of the "old schoolers" say about digital, putting it down, it is a freaking CONVENIENT BLESSING and time saver...and there's never any of that annoying tape hiss to deal with to boot!
Yes, my friend had all that set up in his garage. We had fun messing with it. 8-) Before I new him ,he had a band, (Of course I forget the name), and my friend's claim to fame, (He's actually very modest), was to get some club gigs in '68-'69 on Sunset Blvd. And his guitar player Roman, could play anything, and better than well. Best guitar player I've ever seen without a record contract.
Kenny is aging and know it’s it a young person’s industry. He is trying to mask aging around the eyes and look ‘cooler’. And while I agree he could do without them, but if they make him happy, thats all that matters.
Very funny ... I met Kenny ( twice ) / drum clinic in way off Edmonton Canada ... I asked about replacing Cosmo ... John Fogerty said " I don't want you copying the LPs play them as you hear them and what you , Kenny feel they should sound like ! Kenny can read sheet music and play it exactly if he's asked to. ( see Stevie Wonder tribute show to Paul McCartney )
This is why his original band mates turned on him and threw him under the bus, they were too lazy to practice and perfect a "sound" they couldn't hear!
I saw John Fogerty live in 1998 and thought it was a great show. But, I thought the drumming was a let-down and too different from the original songs. I feel Fogerty is not being completely honest about Cook and Clifford's abilities. Yes, I believe he was the musical brains behind CCR, but I also believe he is selling the other guys short as if they had no musical abilities as musicians. It seems, with Fogerty, it's very much a me, me, me and me thing. And I'm saying this as a huge fan of his music since the late 1960s.
Agreed. I don't care for Aronoff's drumming either. And Fogerty may have made many edits to Clifford's drum parts, he had plenty of punch-ins on his own guitar stuff as well. I was and am a huge Creedence fan, but Fogerty's trashing of his bandmates is out of line -- regardless of how much he "helped" them. And I have heard and read about the 30-drummer thing, and all I can say there is, if you can't find someone to play what you want in 30 tries, maybe YOU are the problem and not THEM. You can't communicate well or are as over-the-top as Brian Wilson was as a producer/arranger.
@@mtadams2009 As I remember, before CCR, the band was under the leadership of John's brother, TOM, who was the lead singer..... called the "Golliwogs"? They were a struggling, run-of-the-mill San Francisco cover band, each wearing white wigs, until, one day, John took over the lead as singer and songwriter, and yelled, Enough of this bullshit. Bingo.
CCR played at my Junior Prom in '65. They were the Golliwogs.
Damn bro!!
Did they do Fight Fire? I just saw Fogerty perform that last night.
Oh snit 😮”
John Fogerty can still rock. God bless him.
I saw Fogerty live during the Blue Moon Swamp tour and when he introduced the band he described Kenny as 'the best in the business '. The admiration was mutual.
Me too! I still remember Fogerty calling him 'the best rock and roll drummer in the WORLD!'...Music Box at Borgata...incredible show.
I spent close to 9 months working on that album. And worked with a lot of drummers during that album, but I left before the end (that album spent over 5 years.) most of the time it was one song each day. We changed the Kick drum head everyday. Snare head about every four or five takes. Bob Gluab was the bassist for most of those tracks. There was another bassist but I can’t remember his name after all these years.
John Fogerty is right!
I remember that. At Pine Knob in Clarkston, MI. he said "much better than Doug Clifford."
Kenny is certainly not the best in the business John.
The Fogerty Premonition concert video with Kenny on drums is some of his best work.
One of the most trusted drummers in the industry, which says a lot about Kenny as well as the incredible value of a great timekeeper
I saw Fogerty on the Blue Moon Swamp tour and Kenny was excellent!! The concert was one of the best rock concerts I've attended.
Kenny rocks!! Saw him with Mellencamp.
I could listen to Kenny tell stories for hours - thank you UA-cam!
Kenny is one of my two favorite drummers. The other one is Jim Keltner. They are both incredible.
Kenny is an excellent drummer and obviously a very cool guy and a real 'team player' I admire that. I'm an ex pro drummer from years ago and sadly didn't get along with most due to their massive egos, you have to be able to listen to suggestions for it to work like Kenny does!
I used to say that "the hardest part about playing the drums,.. was dealing with the guitar player's egos!" 🤪
It's one thing if you're working with a musical genius, an actual professional player & writer. But when you're just a cover band, and the guitar player is a pompous ass,... that's another!!
@@BST-lm4po Yeah, Kudos to that. Egos are far and away why most rock bands break up, no matter how good or how much "big" potential they have.
John used to play the annual kids/parents talent show every spring at a school where our kids both attended. My band the Grateful Dads always played the penultimate set, then celebrity dad John would close the show. He always played the Creedence songs so we could all sing along, even though he wouldn’t play them in public at that time. The third year we did this, I was asked - few days ahead of the show - to stay and drum for his set. I was excited and flattered, but nervous as hell because of the stories I’d read about how he could be tough on drummers. I practiced the whole catalogue like crazy, and thought I was ready. So I haul my drums backstage a few hours before the talent show, and there’s another set there already. Yup, even though it was just a casual school talent show for about 200 parents and kids, at the last minute he booked a studio drummer and bass player for his set. I must admit I was relieved! And it was a great, rockin’ show.
Learning drums over 30 yrs ago, I bought one of Kenny's CD's while he was with Mellancamp. The CD started out with Rain on the Scarecrow.
I was most impressed with his comment when he said about what is my favorite Mellancamp song "Between a Laugh and a Tear," that the song "did not call for it" meaning a fast or or complex grandiose drum part. Just solid time keeping and feeling of the song. I think Simon Phillips is of the same philosophy.
A good drumer is like the ocean. By yourself in the middle of the ocean, you have nothing, and can die on the open ocean from thirst, but being on a beach or an overview of the ocean, it attracts billions of people. No matter where you are on this planet, if you are at the shoreline, you are conected to the planet: from the shore of Boracay, Philippine to Pitcairn Island from Elephant Island in Antarctica, to Homer, Alaska. You are universally connected by the sea, just as a drummer is connected to all styles of music. A good drummer brings the ocean to music and suddenly makes it come alive.
Was an orthopedic surgeon, world traveler, licensed pilot , certified scuba diver etc etc but now almost like a childless couple who took up drums too late when I was 37, am frustrated and despondent that my struggles on the drums, after 33 years , now have to accept the fact that now at 69, it is too late. I never realized that despite the simple time keeping and beat that he drums bring to music, there is a universe of different styles, acents, licks, gooves, chops, or what ever you want to call them out there, just as each drummer has his unique personality, as if his own finger print or retina scan to identify him or her as unique.
Back to my kit.
Love your writing style - very evocative. As another 69 year old drummer who played pro for 50 years, I'm facing the "dying of the light' with as much protest as possible. I just learned a new one hand roll technique that will keep me busy mastering for months.....all thanks to people who are determined to examine the craft and experiment. Keep drumming until they shovel dirt on us.
Total respect to Kenny, and I would see him with John Fogerty in a heartbeat. I also feel the original CCR rhythm section was great - just listen to Down on the Corner, it doesn't get any better than that.
This interviewer is the best. Genuinely interested and positive, always.
Best studio drummer in the business
My kids took me to a John Fogerty concert on September of 2015. It was something I had wanted since I was a kid myself. They were amazing. Both my kids and John Fogerty.
Love Credence
great drummer
I saw that tour in Denver and even got a recording of it,somewhere during the show you can hear somebody say “Kenny’s beating the shit out of those drums!”
It was a great show and I got to meet John and Julie afterwards,great down to earth guy.
I’ve met John and Kenny on the Blue Moon Swamp. Nice guys and incredible musicians. My former professor Jon Lowson was nominated for a Grammy for engineer on Blue Moon Swamp.
Hey Kenny
Give your Grandma her glasses back.
I saw CCR as the first concert I had ever attended in 1971 and we got backstage to meet the band. Blew my mind. What a bunch of nice guys.
Oh and Coast to Coast AM had a show interviewing Kenny Aronoff about a year ago I think, he's very cool !
I have a bootleg of the last Fillmore show in 1971.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver , I have it on clear vinyl with a developed photo of the band glued on the jacket as an album cover!
@@adamiusrex Was it from Box Top Records?
Buddy Holly and Norm Petty were cutting tape back when Fogerty was in high school..
That's true, Fogerty wasn't the first to cut tape, it was how they edited songs up until the 90's.
Sure, Buddy Holly was cutting tape. but was he manually quantizing drum tracks on tape??
splicing is not the same as manually editing a sloppy drum track into a solid back beat.
saw him with fogerty in chicago 2014. he was a monster. great show.
The best drummer ever!
One of the best Drummers in the World.
I heard Kenny interviewed by Bill Burr about a year or so ago. Very interesting. Seems like a great guy.
Since Kenny hasn't been out with him the show hasn't sounded the same. Kennys just a power hitter that has that accuracy and speed everytime. The best.
Saw the Blue Moon Swamp tour in Denver in 1997 2nd row at the Paramount Theatre. An hour after the show John walked with Julie at his side,I called out to him and I think he recognized me and walked right over and talked to us,shook our hands and signed my concert ticket,a cd and a guitar. He was really nice and pleasant over all. Nice memories!
I saw that tour at a small venue. It was a phenomenal experience!
Kenny . Your the best drummer ever!!!
Kenny, John mellencamp, and John Fogerty all have an Indiana connection. Fogerty married his wife in Elkhart Indiana after meeting her during a concert in Indianapolis back in 1986. John and his wife then lived there for awhile.
Love the object lesson in "do it again, we can do it better". Again and Next are fine words, but even better actions.
I heard a little rumour tha Kenny has 4 pairs of smaller glasses on underneath those huge ones he wears ... like the Russian Dolls of spectacles ...I'm just kidding ! I'm a huge ,huge admirer of Mr Kenny Aronoff . Just a little levity on a cold ,Winter Saturday afternoon , 6000 miles away .
Some people are born geniuses, and the sooner you recognize that if you’re in a band with them, the sooner you get out of the way, and give the music a chance to breathe, that’s chemistry.
Engineers cut tape a decade before CCR. The Beatles cut tape like crazy.
Music the way it ought to be…Classic all the way around…talent and commitment rock. I was pleased Mr.Fogerty released all his albums on High Resolution files…AWESOME! Nice interview. Learn a little every day.
It sounds like JF used the same principal as Walter and Donald did in Steely Dan. As Dean Parks said, " They would practice us to get to perfection, then practice more to get to where it sounded natural". If first saw KA play on the Premonition tour. To me, he breathed new life into songs like "Ol Man Down The Road", "Swamp River Days" and "Almost Saturday Night". KA was a perfect fit.
Mick and Keith had a system. Lennon and McCartney. Fogerty.
@@obiobiwan9268 John and Paul wrote something and recorded it 75 times until it was right.
I talked to someone who was on his road crew for a while, and she said most of the people on the crew thought he was a jerk. They used to call him "Chucky".
Kenny Aronoff you are a top tear top dog drummer.
I saw John at Wembley Arena 2007 with Kenny on drums, I've been a Fogerty devotee since 1969.It was a night that will live in my memory till I die. I was seriously ill at the time and only made it because my sis inlaw came with me (we travelled 200 miles), but without me knowing some friends in the America contacted John and told him about me. When we arrived Bob came over and started pushing my wheelchair, I thought ' what happening here' after going through corridors we came out backstage. I saw Kenny and the band chillin and it was 'wow' then John, I think Julie was with him. He came toward me and I was not gonna be sat in a wheelchair when I meet my hero. I stood up and he took my hand. First thing he said was. "Like the shirt" it was the same as John's, he chatted like he already knew me, told me they were coming to play the Royal Albert Hall next year and hoped I'd be there. I was so shocked to go meet him I never had my camera with me, didn't even think to ask for his autograph. He was so gracious and for a little while the crippling pain I was in disappeared. He said it was time to go on stage so we said goodbye. I don't know how long we chatted I was on cloud nine lol. I heard the start of "Travelin Band" then Bob took me to a balcony overlooking the stage. My sis in law was already there, but my tickets where not for such a great view. I must admit the pain came back and I was in agony for the rest of the night and had to go back in hospital the next day. I'd only been home a few days before I travelled to London. It took nearly a year to get well but I wasn't well enough for the Albert Hall Concert sadly. I managed to see John Again at the London 02 arena with my son, who's listened to CCR and John since the day he was born virtually lol. Kenny has easily been the best drummer John has ever had, he put's the Rock in John's Rock n Roll.
I've often wondered what it was like to play with him. Thanks for the inside view.
Nice! That was a fun interview!
Great interview.
He'll never say anything negative about the people he works with or he won't get any more jobs. Same for the whole music industry.
Yes, but you know genuine respect opens any door on earth. I have proof of that enough for me.
I remember a quote from John Fogerty years ago where he was talking about how the other guys in Creedence wanted to write and sing their own songs and put them on the next album. He said something like, and I'm paraphrasing, "I told them, guys I have the formula. It works. I don't want to go back to washing dishes for a living."
He should have let them each have a song. The band might have lasted longer. His band might have developed like the individual Beatles did.
@@RickBeall he let each of the other members write, sing and play songs on their last album and they were so bad the album was a flop.
Same thing as John Kay and Steppenwolf, the other guys saw the success and money coming in from the first two albums and thought "me too", Kay left them do some songs on the "At your birthday party" album and it was a step down from the first two albums. It had some moments, but not as solid as the other ones. Same with CCR and the "Mardi Gras" album, the other guys had some songs on there, not too bad, but not up to the usual standard.
And Kay told the guys that were fired from the band "I'm not going back to starving because of someone's immaturity", sounds a lot like Fogerty, doesn't it?
plus they stabbed him in the back, including his own brother.....so screw them...@@obiobiwan9268
@@obiobiwan9268 You left out the part where he refused to sing any of the songs he didn't write. All they wanted to do was contribute a little bit more than they were being allowed to but Fogerty's massive ego wouldn't allow that. He also made stupid business decisions that cost them millions of dollars.
Kenny Is Awesome
Meet Kenny in 2014 , John Italy tour,good drummer
I saw Kenny perform with John several years ago & Kenny had similar looking glasses on that night on stage.
i seen them in macon ga.great job kenny!!!!!you get to jam with alot of good artists!
Fogerty brings a drum key when auditioning drummers. That's a hard-ass.
Aronoff is not the Best Drummer in the World but the Best Drummer in the World sends him a Christmas Card every year out of respect. Yeah, he is really that good !
Love Kenny's playing. Sounds like Cosmo benefitted from some good old analog quantization.
I knew nothing about Fogerty before "The Old Man Down The Road", Top 40 Radio in the 80's being so myopic. He wrote and performed catchy song after catchy song, he is legend.
You didn’t know that John Fogerty was CCR until at least 1985?
Myopic? Stylistically, top 40 radio in the 80's was the most diverse in history. You had everything from Dolly Parton to Taco Puttin' on the Ritz to RUN DMC to Bon Jovi, Men at Worl, Toto, Madonna and Prince... so much variety
@@luisdetomaso867I would agree with you for the first half of the 80s but the second half of the decade became stagnant for me.
@@richardthompson6366 Really? Metallica Master of Puppets, The Cure Disintegration, Guns n' Roses Appetite for Destruction, Peter Gabriel So, Jane's Addiction Nothing's Shocking, Nine Inch Nails Pretty Hate Machine... are stagnant??
@@danieleidet7131….I think he’s saying he didn’t know of CCR until then.
“Focused” a nice way of saying “nuts”
I saw the CCR inducted into the rock n Roll hall of fame. The original drummer Doug Clifford thanked the other 2 band mates, but not John Fogerty. He must have gotten the 4 hour treatment over and over until he was sick and tired of it!
When Green River was released in 69 I don’t believe we at that time dissected the song or the band or the technical arrangements or the meaning in the lyrics. That generation in time knew what a great song was and Green River had a beat that rocked. It’s like when Won’t Get Fooled Again came out… it’s the progression from Cant Buy Me Love upto these hits and what classic rock evolved from and in to. Fogherty was a catalyst that created we just didn’t know how intricate he was.
The splicing technique award goes to Zappa. Love Creedence.
Saw Fogerty with Aronoff in 2006. Aronoff with his drumming put the whole show to the next level. Otherworldly! 2 years later he had another drummer. A nameless cat from Nashville. It was ok because all songs belong to the soundtrack of my life. But it was not great. Aronoff was missed badly!
Anytime I hear is name I can see him dancing with a tambourine like in the Pink Houses video.
Credence was the bridge between country and rock a real turn on.
One of the Greatest American top 5 bands of all time....Hands down!
J.F. Legend
In CCR's day, nobody knew how to remove a section of tape, and scotch tape it back together?? In the early 60's I was watching an uncle do it on his reel to reel, so I think a LOT of people knew how to do it, it was commonplace.
John was a genius
Junior Soprano played with Fogarty?
Yes indeed, in the Blue Swamp Tour, John and the band played CCR hits, but John did it in a rush, acelerated tempo, and sounds a little bitter because there was the others Clifford and Cook's "band" CCRevisited who played the songs exactly like the originals records, even doing the same voice like John... 🇲🇽✌😎
I have seen John twice and I saw CCRevisited once, and got to meet Stu and Doug that time. They were super cool!
@@adamiusrex Yeah, I met them all a week apart in Eugene for Fogerty and Salem OR for Stu and Doug, along with Elliot Easton who was pretty cool too. Stu and Doug did the open string, ching ching sound and drive of original CCR, JCF put on quite a different sound, often due to Kenny himself and his heavy hitting style. Just different, thats all.
It would be nice to know what Fogerty songs and album he's actually talking about
Blue Moon Swamp was the album that won a Grammy, although I think he did a couple more records with him too.
Probably the first 5 albums.
Damm, John is anal
@@garylester8621Whaaaaat the first 5 albums were CCR and that was Doug Clifford on drums
@@broncobrian2344 Yes.
Last time I saw Fogerty a few years ago, he had his son's band backing him up. John used to have some of the best musicians in the business (including Kenny Aronoff) as his band. Sound just wasn't the same. Enjoyable but not great.
Was he the same Drummer who played With and toured With Mellencamp then became Session Drummer
Yes, the very same 👍🤘
Of course they cut tape back in the day. That was common place for editing. Every studio had a splicing block, tape, and a yellow grease pencil. Where are you getting your history from ? That kind of stuff went on, in studios, long before John ever set foot in a studio.
Wonderful story. But Fogerty was hardly the first person to do tape editing.
lucky man
maybe he spent some time around projection equipment. film can be cut and spliced a bit like tape.
I'm from that recording era and remember 2" tapes, retakes, splicing tape at the recording console, etc, etc. Years later, as the digital recording age emerged I sold all my reel to reel equipment, set up a simple digital recording studio and no matter what most of the "old schoolers" say about digital, putting it down, it is a freaking CONVENIENT BLESSING and time saver...and there's never any of that annoying tape hiss to deal with to boot!
Yes, my friend had all that set up in his garage. We had fun messing with it. 8-) Before I new him ,he had a band, (Of course I forget the name), and my friend's claim to fame, (He's actually very modest), was to get some club gigs in '68-'69 on Sunset Blvd. And his guitar player Roman, could play anything, and better than well. Best guitar player I've ever seen without a record contract.
He’s been with everyone
True Story: Kenny took up welding during the 2020 Covid apocalypse
I saw Fogerty with ZZ Top. Fogerty's band was too loud and played too damn fast. Creedence songs don't need to be rushed.
If it’s to loud your too old🫵
@@ou8126 You're...
It was so bad that his own brother quit.
2 inch tape, 1 inch wide?
interesting
Be funny if they played each song twice in concert…🤣
Poor Dougie Clifford huh. LOL.
The other members of Credence could not accept that John was much more talented than they were and couldn’t just go along for the ride.
Especially his brother. Drove him crazy.
Good drummer but the glasses gotta go
Kenny is aging and know it’s it a young person’s industry. He is trying to mask aging around the eyes and look ‘cooler’. And while I agree he could do without them, but if they make him happy, thats all that matters.
what a chode
Things that don't matter
Why? You get triggered by sunglasses?
It’s all the babes chasing him - needs to be incognito 😹
Wrong Kenny john was not the first guy to cut tape,it was being done long before ccr
He’s no Doug Clifford. But he’s ok.
Very funny ... I met Kenny ( twice ) / drum clinic in way off Edmonton Canada ... I asked about replacing Cosmo ... John Fogerty said " I don't want you copying the LPs play them as you hear them and what you , Kenny feel they should sound like ! Kenny can read sheet music and play it exactly if he's asked to. ( see Stevie Wonder tribute show to Paul McCartney )
I heard that working for John Fogerty absolutely sucks because his wife runs the show and that Kenny quit because he was denied a raise.
Is that Kenny or Zsa Zsa Gabor ?😂😂😂
This is why his original band mates turned on him and threw him under the bus, they were too lazy to practice and perfect a "sound" they couldn't hear!
Kenny the pounder
Who do these guys not take off the sunglasses? (Clown world)
So, after all that, Fogerty should have taken a drum computer!!! No one ever should tune my Supraphonic, never 👎👎🎵
I saw John Fogerty live in 1998 and thought it was a great show. But, I thought the drumming was a let-down and too different from the original songs. I feel Fogerty is not being completely honest about Cook and Clifford's abilities. Yes, I believe he was the musical brains behind CCR, but I also believe he is selling the other guys short as if they had no musical abilities as musicians. It seems, with Fogerty, it's very much a me, me, me and me thing. And I'm saying this as a huge fan of his music since the late 1960s.
Agreed. I don't care for Aronoff's drumming either. And Fogerty may have made many edits to Clifford's drum parts, he had plenty of punch-ins on his own guitar stuff as well. I was and am a huge Creedence fan, but Fogerty's trashing of his bandmates is out of line -- regardless of how much he "helped" them. And I have heard and read about the 30-drummer thing, and all I can say there is, if you can't find someone to play what you want in 30 tries, maybe YOU are the problem and not THEM. You can't communicate well or are as over-the-top as Brian Wilson was as a producer/arranger.
I guess I would ask what hit albums has any of the other CCR band members made? None that I am aware of. He was CCR
@@mtadams2009 Yes, I totally agree. But I think you missed my point. I was referring to musicianship.
@@mtadams2009 As I remember, before CCR, the band was under the leadership of John's brother, TOM, who was the lead singer..... called the "Golliwogs"? They were a struggling, run-of-the-mill San Francisco cover band, each wearing white wigs, until, one day, John took over the lead as singer and songwriter, and yelled, Enough of this bullshit. Bingo.
@@mtadams2009 After CCR ended what hits did Fogerty have? There was some lightening in a bottle that was lost.
I heaRd he was hard on cliff
So apparently fogerty thought Cosmo stunk.
It’s possible Fogerty was not referring to their PLAYING at all, but to their PATIENCE with his perfectionism.
@@christopherpardell4418 could be…..sounds like he was difficult to deal with.
He plays the songs to fast
Who, Kenny? No, if they're too fast (for you) gotta bring it up with Fogarty who sets the speeds in click tracks that Kenny hears in his ear plugs...
Credence's original drummer is way better for Credence songs IMO
Sorry but as great as JF is, he didn't invent splicing audio tapes. They've been doing that back in the 50s
Innovative ideas to solve a problem !!..I'd say maybe he was the problem.
Why on earth using sunglasses indoor? It is not cool!