They accidentally got the lighting so flawless in that one second: 0:35 The way his entire being is shrouded in shadows, but his eyes glint, makes him look like some kind of animal, totally at odds and alien in his surroundings, which just perfectly accentuates his little speech. He's mocking and testing Worf for being too naturalized to a soft, gentle way of life, looking every bit like a feral predator skulking around, adding an element of danger to an otherwise safe, familiar place
Man, I really loved this episode. The viewer is lead to believe that this was simply going to be a mirror image of the episode where Riker serves as first officer aboard the Pagh - Kurn would not fit in with the crew of the Enterprise, many cultural misunderstandings would occur, and in the end everyone would come to respect each other and learn that each way of life has its advantages and disadvantages. Instead, they dropped this reveal, turned the entire storyline on its head, and gave us one of the greatest TNG story arcs. Kurn becomes a protagonist and one of the most beloved and badass recurring characters on the show. I miss good television.
I enjoyed BSG and I'm glad he got the chance to do his own thing, but it always rubbed me the wrong way that he gave so much to TNG and DS9 and then got told to sit down and shut up on Voyager. BSG in many ways was what Voyager should have been.
Yeah. Raised an orphan by humans on earth and ends up the Federation ambassador on Qo'noS, and a member of the House of Martok; Chancellor of the Klingon Empire.
@@JackgarPrime it could arguably be either one and I can definitely understand why you'd say it was Data. But the way I see it, Worf's journey to acceptance and understanding by his peers was a more challenging one than what Data experienced. While it was obvious to those around him from his appearance and mannerisms that Data was non-human, at least he was built to appear somewhat human and programmed to mimic human behavior (to varying degrees of success). And arguably, despite his journey to understand and even acquire human emotions, it was his very lack of emotion that helped to shield Data from whatever prejudices he may have been subjected to. On the other hand, Worf wasn't simply a foundling, he was already six years old at the time of the attack on Khitomer and was forced to assimilate from a Klingon upbringing to one by Human foster parents who hadn't the first clue about how to raise a Klingon child. He was possessed of emotions which for Klingons are generally far more intense than those experienced by Humans. And as a non-cybernetic being, Worf learned and matured much more slowly than Data. What's more, it was barely fifty years after the signing of the Khitomer Accords between the UFP and the Klingon Empire. This is well within the lifespan of the average 23rd/24th Century human in the UFP, so Worf would've had to deal with the prejudices of humans against a species that was humanity's mortal enemy less than a hundred years ago. And ironically enough while he never fully fit in with human society, he was just as out of his depth in Klingon society as well.
If Kurn could have stopped being a suicidal baby for a very short time he would have regained his standing WITH INTEREST when Martok became chancellor. Kurn would have been invited into the chancellor house and given a higher position on the council than he lost with Gowron.
I always felt the eventually did Kurn dirty. I would have liked to see him and Worf battling along side one another against the Dominion all the way to Cardassia Prime.
I could not agree more. He deserved far better than he got. If it wasn’t in their plans to keep him until the end, the least they could have done, was give him a warrior’s glorious death!
Agreed! Kurn was one of my favorite characters and they ruined him in DS9. Of all the episodes I've rewatched, that was one I can't bring myself to watch again.
I think that's the point. Sometimes life is a beach and unfair. At least everyone now remembers the tragic fate of Kurn, son of Mogh. Though I agree that Worfs behaviour was out of character in that DS9 episode.
The whole Worf storyline from this moment, including the situation was his son, has always been one of my favorites, and has always intrigued me. Excellent stuff.
Worfs storyline reminds me A LOT of a Shakespeare drama like Hamlet. And the way TNG set up the Klingon Empire, it's perfect for that kind of story arc.
Usually Tony Todd plays pretty menacing characters but in a twist he plays an older Jake Sisko in an alternate timeline and he does a great job at a portraying someone with a sense of empathy and grief.
What I’m surprised about is Worf not recognizing or even suspecting Kurt was his brother given the fact it is canon that Klingon forehead ridges are very similar or the same when it runs in the family lines. Kurn’s and Worf’s ridges are the same, thus Worf should have picked up on that character trait.
As someone who has spoken four languages at greater or lesser levels of fluency it kinda sounds like someone for whom English isn't their first language, and hasn't been speaking it long enough to master the flow and music of it.
@@Vulturefist @O Beggot so Kurn is like Worf's Jessie, K'Ehleyr is Skyler, Duras is Tucco, Gowron is Gus, Martok is Mike, Picard is Saul, Riker is Hank, Deanna is Marie, Wesley is Badger and Alexander is Walt Jr.
@@karlsmith2570 yes definitely. The mating ritual, the wedding, the sex, the anniversary of the age of ascension. Pretty painful. the only one I can think of is the ceremony where they bring others into the family. It was used once in tng with that robocop kid and again in ds9 with Alexander coming into the house of Mortok. I had to google it. R'uustai Ceremony. The R'uustai, or bonding ceremony is the only ceremony that is used to bring someone into a Klingon house. It is used on non-relatives. **note. Don’t participate in a Klingon tea ceremony either.
@@Torontodude20000 particularly if you're human, as the tea is poisonous to humans Dr. Pulaski only participated because she'd injected herself with an antidote prior to drinking the tea
Gowron can rot in a shallow grave. If not for his corruption, and using Worf's family honor as a weapon against Worf perhaps he an Kurn could have rebuilt their house properly and bring it it's rightful glory.
This scene is just great. The way Kurn teases Worf is subtle. He behaves like a pc progressive, and that riles Worf up. 😆 I guess scenes like this are pure gold for stage actors like Dorn and Todd. I miss stuff like this.
Worf didn't "discover" a damned thing. The proper title would be "Kurn reveals his identity." And if they'd fought, weaponless, Worf would've kicked Kurn's ass.
Discovery, as a word, is still apt in this instance. Kurn is a proper Klingon Warrior, steeped in the customs and culture, brutal and unrestrained. So many times, Worf had his arse handed to him by people lesser than Kurn.
@@ukmk3supra And so many times he has defeated far stronger foes. Star Trek writing is awfull inconsistent about these things. Especially in TNG which is usually so very episodic.
Worf was active in learning the truth. Kurn was holding the cards and testing Worf, but Worf rose to the challenge and came demanding to know what was going on, and he wan't going to leave without an answer or a fight.
The way characters/ Klingons like Worf, Kurn, Kaylar, Gowron, etc. were written and acted on TNG is IMO far superior to how they were handled on DS9. They did Worf and Kurn so dirty. The benchmark episode for how to handle Klingon characters IMO is TNG's "A Matter of Honor". On top of that, the Klingon captain in that episode is played by Chris Latta, the voice of Starscream and Cobra Commander.
Kurn: Angers and infuriates his older brother, follows him around the ship, messing with him. How did Worf not know this was his younger brother.
LOL
Worf probably suspected Kurn of being gay.
@@arnoldoxenschwanz1385 yes possibly a gay wad or a butt munch lol
@@SuperJhon360 Turd burglar comes to mind.
Youngest brother here, can confirm.
Also, it's my turn to play.
They accidentally got the lighting so flawless in that one second: 0:35
The way his entire being is shrouded in shadows, but his eyes glint, makes him look like some kind of animal, totally at odds and alien in his surroundings, which just perfectly accentuates his little speech. He's mocking and testing Worf for being too naturalized to a soft, gentle way of life, looking every bit like a feral predator skulking around, adding an element of danger to an otherwise safe, familiar place
Imagine Tony Todd narrating children's books in this voice. "I... do not WANT... green eggs and ham. I... DO NOT... like them... Sam... I am."
😂😂😂😂
Man, I really loved this episode. The viewer is lead to believe that this was simply going to be a mirror image of the episode where Riker serves as first officer aboard the Pagh - Kurn would not fit in with the crew of the Enterprise, many cultural misunderstandings would occur, and in the end everyone would come to respect each other and learn that each way of life has its advantages and disadvantages.
Instead, they dropped this reveal, turned the entire storyline on its head, and gave us one of the greatest TNG story arcs. Kurn becomes a protagonist and one of the most beloved and badass recurring characters on the show. I miss good television.
i'm positive Kurn specifically REQUESTED the assignment for THIS sole purpose.
Love your analogy my friend. Thanks! LLaP
@@dhinton1, true. Todd wanted a role on the show & was over the moon to get the part of Kurn!
Now we have the brilliant story arcs of discovery
You speak the truth
0:43 it's too comfy not a ship for a Klingon warrior. Sits down.
I also get the impression the way he sat down in the chair as to ephasise the point. He's rubbing Worfs face in it.
@@happisakshappiplace.6588 Agreed.
too many... creature comforts. *boots up the ps5*
It funny how the klingon views of how a warrior shall live. A warrior can still have and many hade an interest in garderning.
That took lots of beans
Worf has been the man since First Contact when he said "Perhaps today IS a good day to die, RAMMING SPEED!"
If you want a single scene that illustrates exactly how Klingons operate, how they view the world and in turn view themselves then THIS is it.
This is one of the many great Klingon episodes written by Ronald D. Moore, who went on to reimagine Battlestar Galactica.
I enjoyed BSG and I'm glad he got the chance to do his own thing, but it always rubbed me the wrong way that he gave so much to TNG and DS9 and then got told to sit down and shut up on Voyager. BSG in many ways was what Voyager should have been.
@@raggededge82 BSG, like Game of Thrones, was great up until the last season where took a turn into the crapper and became convoluted.
Tony Todd is such a great actor with great acting presence.
"from my older brother"
_dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn_
This comment really needs more likes.
i was going to make that joke, lol
These kind of reveals is what made commercial breaks ok in Television.
@@timmorris2048 😄
WORF'S STORY LINE IS STILL MY FAVAOURITE,
Yeah. Raised an orphan by humans on earth and ends up the Federation ambassador on Qo'noS, and a member of the House of Martok; Chancellor of the Klingon Empire.
Kurn's storyline was tragic. I feel bad as Worf and his needs always affected Kurn. No wonder he wanted his memory wiped.
Mix worfs sense of being Klingon, Gowrons eyes, the tactical mind of Martok and Kurns Voice and you have the ultimate Klingon
Add shrewdness of K'mpec.
Worf's story arc was probably the most compelling one of all the show's characters through TNG's seven seasons.
I would say Data's, but Worf's is a close second.
@@JackgarPrime it could arguably be either one and I can definitely understand why you'd say it was Data. But the way I see it, Worf's journey to acceptance and understanding by his peers was a more challenging one than what Data experienced.
While it was obvious to those around him from his appearance and mannerisms that Data was non-human, at least he was built to appear somewhat human and programmed to mimic human behavior (to varying degrees of success). And arguably, despite his journey to understand and even acquire human emotions, it was his very lack of emotion that helped to shield Data from whatever prejudices he may have been subjected to.
On the other hand, Worf wasn't simply a foundling, he was already six years old at the time of the attack on Khitomer and was forced to assimilate from a Klingon upbringing to one by Human foster parents who hadn't the first clue about how to raise a Klingon child. He was possessed of emotions which for Klingons are generally far more intense than those experienced by Humans. And as a non-cybernetic being, Worf learned and matured much more slowly than Data.
What's more, it was barely fifty years after the signing of the Khitomer Accords between the UFP and the Klingon Empire. This is well within the lifespan of the average 23rd/24th Century human in the UFP, so Worf would've had to deal with the prejudices of humans against a species that was humanity's mortal enemy less than a hundred years ago. And ironically enough while he never fully fit in with human society, he was just as out of his depth in Klingon society as well.
@Leo Peridot Levar Burton is probably as well known for Reading Rainbow as he is for Star Trek.
Tony Todd one of the most prolific Star Trek actors
He was also the adult Jake Sisko
candyman...
He has an awesome presence about him.... loved him in the final destination series too, always a small part but you always remember him
He also turned up as an Hirogen in Star Trek - Voyager in the episode Prey
He was amazing in Prelude to Axanar as well. Not canon but it may as well be.
Kurn is Worf’s brother
the sons of Mogh have joined together after all these years
...dude. I just realized Kurn was voiced by the guy who did the vortigaunts in HL2 EP2. That is seriously epic!
He also played a much older Jake Sisko in an episode of DS9. Great Episode too
Tony Todd also voiced Zoon in season two of "The Flash"
Played Admiral Ramirez on the Star Trek fan flick Axnar.
If Kurn could have stopped being a suicidal baby for a very short time he would have regained his standing WITH INTEREST when Martok became chancellor. Kurn would have been invited into the chancellor house and given a higher position on the council than he lost with Gowron.
I always felt the eventually did Kurn dirty. I would have liked to see him and Worf battling along side one another against the Dominion all the way to Cardassia Prime.
I could not agree more. He deserved far better than he got. If it wasn’t in their plans to keep him until the end, the least they could have done, was give him a warrior’s glorious death!
Poorly written episode. After everything he and Worf go through, that's the best ending they could come up with for him? Sheesh.
Kurn should have gotten a better send-off than the one he got on season 4 of ds9.
Agreed! Kurn was one of my favorite characters and they ruined him in DS9. Of all the episodes I've rewatched, that was one I can't bring myself to watch again.
I think that's the point. Sometimes life is a beach and unfair.
At least everyone now remembers the tragic fate of Kurn, son of Mogh.
Though I agree that Worfs behaviour was out of character in that DS9 episode.
Not only is Worf a Klingon, but I hear that if you say Kurn's name three times in the mirror, he will appear.
Five times actually.
@@bull705 You are right.
I thought he was busy running around Alcatraz.
I tried that and it didn’t work! What gives??
🎵🎶 To every season, Kurn, Kurn, Kurn… 🎶🎵
This episode is what really sold me on this show, when I really got hooked.
The whole Worf storyline from this moment, including the situation was his son, has always been one of my favorites, and has always intrigued me. Excellent stuff.
Worfs storyline reminds me A LOT of a Shakespeare drama like Hamlet. And the way TNG set up the Klingon Empire, it's perfect for that kind of story arc.
@@M0butu Good observation. I agree. We only got bits and pieces before, especially in TOS, but TNG really brought the empire to the fore.
"I am a KLINGON! If you doubt it, a demonstration CAN be arranged!"
In other words, "You slight me again, I'm F**KIN' you UP!"
"Perhaps your blood is not so thin after all!"
In other words, "You'd BETTER!"
Pretty much
Candyman as a Klingon
The Candyman!
Kurn, great acting, great scene. You actually believe these two. Bless kayless
Usually Tony Todd plays pretty menacing characters but in a twist he plays an older Jake Sisko in an alternate timeline and he does a great job at a portraying someone with a sense of empathy and grief.
Great job by Tony Todd! He's a credit to the Star Trek franchise!
What I’m surprised about is Worf not recognizing or even suspecting Kurt was his brother given the fact it is canon that Klingon forehead ridges are very similar or the same when it runs in the family lines. Kurn’s and Worf’s ridges are the same, thus Worf should have picked up on that character trait.
The ridges are something they do not discuss ... Especially with outsiders. ;)
Ridges cause ruffles. Ruffled Klingons is a bad thing...
@@billyboblillybob344 damn …. That’s deep. Ruffles and Klingons. Who woulda thought?
The quality of this upload is impressive. Even better looking than the original dvd's I purchased a long... LONG time ago.
This is the HD remaster of TNG - ripped right from the Blu-Ray.
The remastered BluRays are incredible. If you don’t own them, now is great time to consider buying them. 🖖😀
Really liked Kurn. I hated what they did with his character in that one DS9 episode :/
That's why it's called tragedy.
I love how Kurn accentuates every word he speaks
Classic actor training. I am sure Tony Todd could recite 2 hours straight of Shakespeare in this voice and accentuation.
@@M0butu agreed. You haven’t heard Shakespeare unless you heard it in original Klingon.
As someone who has spoken four languages at greater or lesser levels of fluency it kinda sounds like someone for whom English isn't their first language, and hasn't been speaking it long enough to master the flow and music of it.
"That is the response of a KLINGON!!! The response I would expect..."
"Yours is not the response I would expect from... CANDYMAN!!!"
Every single one of these i watch...I WANT TO WATCH THE WHOLE EPISODE! STOP... STOPPING!
The cool twist when discovering worf and kurn were brothers.
And not just they're of the same race
This is the moment Worf became Heisenberg...wait, wrong show
HeisenMogh? 😁
@@Vulturefist @O Beggot so Kurn is like Worf's Jessie, K'Ehleyr is Skyler, Duras is Tucco, Gowron is Gus, Martok is Mike, Picard is Saul, Riker is Hank, Deanna is Marie, Wesley is Badger and Alexander is Walt Jr.
A DEMONSTRATION CAN BE ARRANGED! So badass
2:15 ... This scene has been used on many a soap opera. 😂😂😂😂
Love that they kept the TOS belt buckles
3:15......."Your deception O-FFENDS me brother!!" talk about enunciation haha!!
There was only one actor on earth capable of playing Worf's brother and it was Tony Todd.
This type of passion, tension, and genuine dialogue is something that eludes the writers of STD and STP.
Wish the constant whining would elude you idiots as well.
I like the painting in Worf's room.
I assumed that Kurn's Identity was a math result and was keen to learn some new math.
That "demonstration" sounds like it might involve some pain. :)
Well, they are Klingons
Show me one Klingon ritual that doesn't involve pain
@@karlsmith2570 yes definitely. The mating ritual, the wedding, the sex, the anniversary of the age of ascension. Pretty painful.
the only one I can think of is the ceremony where they bring others into the family. It was used once in tng with that robocop kid and again in ds9 with Alexander coming into the house of Mortok.
I had to google it.
R'uustai Ceremony.
The R'uustai, or bonding ceremony is the only ceremony that is used to bring someone into a Klingon house. It is used on non-relatives.
**note. Don’t participate in a Klingon tea ceremony either.
@@Torontodude20000 particularly if you're human, as the tea is poisonous to humans
Dr. Pulaski only participated because she'd injected herself with an antidote prior to drinking the tea
Wrong! Worf would have read him some Klingon poetry...
And then the entire Empire knows an hour later.
I like how they instantly a clan as soon as warf knows. Honor bound him at that Moment
Just a little brother aggravating a younger brother.
Gowron can rot in a shallow grave. If not for his corruption, and using Worf's family honor as a weapon against Worf perhaps he an Kurn could have rebuilt their house properly and bring it it's rightful glory.
All one has to say is 'I am your brother' and a Klingon will say "okay".
“This ship is built on comfort and relaxation...”
Well, it was originally a luxury cruise ship
At what point in the series did they remove the families from the ship?
Kurn is Candyman
I wonder if Kurn likes the song Rocketman.
Good Episode.
rudeness is courtesy and courtesy is rudeness
This is not a warship .. It's a vessel of exploration
1:59
When people doubt how good I am at Magic the Gathering.
If this were Picard. Kum would have been an Synth.
They have a hard on for Synths.
what a twist. Worf doesn't freak out easily but he's like Woah... wtf... whaaa... 😳
The Star Trek writers did Kurn dirty over the years.
LOL, I love Klingons. 😁
Don’t they keep records in the empire? Or have google?
I wish they'd developed an extended story arc with Kurn serving aboard the Enterprise. If would have been interesting.
kurn doesnt know that worf was only bluffing.
Candykurn Candykurn Candykurn
I was said to see how their story ended on DS9
I wonder.
If you would take a big bite out of the skull of a Klingon, would it taste like a snickers?
Yes. Except for Gowron's. That would taste like marshmallow peeps and methamphetamine.
Word was raised by humans.
It's not really discovering something when they tell you outright.
how cute...and The Flag of the Federation above them .....
Such a soap opera scene
This scene is just great. The way Kurn teases Worf is subtle. He behaves like a pc progressive, and that riles Worf up. 😆
I guess scenes like this are pure gold for stage actors like Dorn and Todd.
I miss stuff like this.
This show gets better and better as I get older
Worf finds out he has a brother...... meh.
Worf didn't "discover" a damned thing. The proper title would be "Kurn reveals his identity."
And if they'd fought, weaponless, Worf would've kicked Kurn's ass.
Discovery, as a word, is still apt in this instance. Kurn is a proper Klingon Warrior, steeped in the customs and culture, brutal and unrestrained.
So many times, Worf had his arse handed to him by people lesser than Kurn.
@@ukmk3supra And so many times he has defeated far stronger foes.
Star Trek writing is awfull inconsistent about these things. Especially in TNG which is usually so very episodic.
@@ukmk3supra That's part of the drama. Where's the story development when Worf takes down anything short of a Borg drone without a sweat.
Worf was active in learning the truth. Kurn was holding the cards and testing Worf, but Worf rose to the challenge and came demanding to know what was going on, and he wan't going to leave without an answer or a fight.
Maybe ds9 wolf. But tng wolf would have gotten his ass handed to him by kurn.
Kurn.....a real Klingon
11 Romulan P'taqs downvoted this video filled with honor!
Starfleet really do be bad at vetting anyone they put in command of the enterprise
What happened to Kurn was the worst thing ever written in the Trek universe.
Why do Klingon's have such bad teeth?
The way characters/ Klingons like Worf, Kurn, Kaylar, Gowron, etc. were written and acted on TNG is IMO far superior to how they were handled on DS9. They did Worf and Kurn so dirty.
The benchmark episode for how to handle Klingon characters IMO is TNG's "A Matter of Honor". On top of that, the Klingon captain in that episode is played by Chris Latta, the voice of Starscream and Cobra Commander.
"I am a KLINGON!" If someone hasn't yelled this at you, you haven't lived.
IF YOU DOUBT IT A DEMONSTRATION CAN BE ARRANGED!!!
Qapla!