His car was found near my house. It's so sad. I've wondered if he wasn't experiencing early symptoms of schizophrenia or some similar form of psychosis. It's such a sad case.
I was thnking that when they were talking about the marijuana use. I agree that the symtoms and behavior are very similar, and the age is right. using marijuana might not be a cause, but it´s often seen (in excess) in young people who develop schizophrenia. Self medication?
And yes, so tragic on so many levels. My husband´s cousin, a similarly gifted young man, developed schizophrenia, and life has been very tough for him since then. Then disappearing like that...I feel for Logan and his family.
It fits the age range. A horrible situation when someone is confused and unsure how to get help or just doesn't click that they should reach out yet. 😥
As a long-time follower, it's wild to see you cover a good friend's cousin. By all accounts, a good kid. Apparently, some of his loved ones strongly suspect homicide. For me, the self-isolation and odd behavior seem hard to ignore. Either way: It's sad that Logan didn't get a fighting chance against whatever he was dealing with. Thanks for treating his case with kindness.
So sad, and unfortunate. Many people have a really bad experience w/pot; it doesn't keep them for continuing to use. If something he didn't grow, hadn't purchased before and was altered, it would explain the erratic driving. But I'm of the opinion that any weakness, vulnerability evident to public can result in the random act of violence by perps who see an opportunity, if not the confidence from getting away w/it before. Yet again, and drugs are the culprit; whoever sells the pot, usually has others to get you in deeper. What a horrible waste. 🙏For his family,RIP Logan.
@@deejames1st I don't know what it's like where he was, California is terrible! You say the wrong thing / things and these mental health workers under penalty of losing their employment and perhaps being liable, can't pretend they didn't hear what you said and so have to cover their asses. It's easier to check yourself into a psych ward, than it is to get yourself out of it. And then your subject to sanctions, perhaps for life on the state level. There's federal penalties too that you have to live with If you've ever been declared a danger to yourself, even if you weren't declareda danger to others. Case is tend to get overwritten, to protect the worker from any consequences who comes in contact with the person in crisis.
@@frankpaya690 I agree on a lot of your points. These people need more empathetic mental health care. There’s an issue with the families of some making it harder for the patient due to lack of empathy, denial of responsibility, blame, excuses, etc. Sometimes it’s these people’s own families who end up making it impossible for them to recover. Workers tend to do more when there’s a good family looking out for the patient and helping the patient in their recovery instead of hindering the recovery. When a patient doesn’t have that support system many workers may decide the case is pointless. But it doesn’t seem like that was the case here, as his family seemed to care about him, and haven’t smeared him for having his issues. I think that maybe it was like Dr. Grande said, the illness progressed quickly in his case, and before anyone realized the depth of it, he was gone. I also agree with you that these people are very vulnerable to those who would do harm to them and they aren’t in a fit state to defend themselves against it.
A guy I know had a break with reality and went into the woods with only an overcoat on ,he spent several nights in the woods ,a fisherman in a drift boat saved him.
My cousin's first break happened 4 years after he was discharged from the service. There were plenty of signs before it happened but people were reluctant to say anything because what if they were wrong? I found him (after searching for days) extremely sunburnt and dehydrated after setting up his new "home" under a pile of driftwood on a beach in Florida. He claimed he was hiding from demons. He received the intensive care he needed and, 25 years later, he's doing well.
Dr Grande , I appreciate your insight. My son’s girlfriend was diagnosed with schizophrenia about 4 months ago. She was having auditory and visual hallucinations. What I found most interesting in this video is you described exactly the symptoms she was having before the hallucinations began. She was exhausted, withdrawn, depressed and emotional for several months. After she told me she was hallucinating I convinced her to go to the hospital. She spent a week in patient psychiatric care. They were able to find medication that worked for her. She’s now back and work and doing well. She still is being monitored and goes to her Dr frequently. The knowledge you spread is so valuable. Thank you.
I’m also grateful to know the symptoms of Schizophrenia. I have looked them up, but never found very helpful information. Dr. Grande says it best! 🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Dr. Grande, thank you for all you that you do. You are such a kind human and I just truly appreciate your calm attitude, sprinkled with hands down the funniest wit.
He is he is the only person I actually listen to on UA-cam his kind words that he uses and carefully describes everything without judging or slaggin the individual is great we care, we watch like continue very professional indeed.
Videos like this about the onset of symptoms in young adults are very helpful for me in communicating with my son, who is in this age group. He manages a diagnosis of bipolar type two very well with good social support and adherence to his medications. Because of his experience he does have a tendency to feel attracted and sympathetic to other young people who are experiencing mental health symptoms. He recently observed some erratic, disorganized behavior in a friend. Rather than feeling confused or upset he was able to observe and address the situation proactively. Without some awareness in young people about what might be going on with their peers it is a very disturbing and alarming thing to encounter in their early adult relationships.
While I do find it to be unlikely that Logan is alive today, one thing Dr. Grande may not know about the area is that, even near the freeway post in those woods, there are several large communities of unhoused people out there. We have large camps, tiny house communities, and more; many of them line the freeway just beyond the tree lines. This is one of those rare cases where the missing person could well be alive and right there near where he went missing.
@@Nevermore694 They might have, but if for some reason Logan felt he was in danger, it´s not certain that the residents of these camps would be cooperative with the searchers. I could see them going out of their way to conceal him if he were frightened of being found.
Good point, you never know if someone decides to just start a new life. I do have to say though, the term you used in your comment, Unhoused, stood out to me. Curious to know the reason behind saying unhoused compared to the homeless. A person without a house is typically called homeless and I'm wondering if that is now the new "woke" term for homeless lol? Please tell me it's not...I've had enough of these "politically" correct terms when trying to not "offend" someone. I can guarantee a homeless person probably gives a s&!t less if they are called homeless. I'm sure if u did a survey on the unhoused settlements they wouldn't care that they are called homeless. The word games have gone too far on the far left, for sure.
@@roxannespahr2804There is a distinction. Think of the word home and what it means to you compared to the word house. A home is something that is deeper. Home sweet home, not house sweet house. So the distinction can be made that someone who is homeless has nowhere to go that feels like a home or that is a home to them. They can also be without an address or structure to live in which also makes them houseless. There are people who are houseless who do have a home they can return to, maybe a parental home, a grandparent's home, a home with their spouse... Language keeps evolving. If it didn't I would be speaking English in Shakespearean. Or I'd be speaking an older language of my ancestors before they arrived in England. Farewell ye ragged wart, and thou abate thy rage ye malthouse drudge!
I am glad Dr. Grande included the data that no family member or friend should be blamed for not noticing the symptoms. I can only imagine the family's state of mind at that time. It is just all so sad, to think of that confused person wandering alone towards a likely tragic conclusion.
It's terrifying to know that someone so young, handsome, and promising could decline so quickly due to mental illness. This happened to a brilliant friend of mine too (in his case it was early schizophrenia), but fortunately he was found before he could get hurt and he's doing okay now.
I've had a few psychotic breaks due to CPTSD and I'm so thankful I had family and friends who helped me get admitted to the ER. I would've absolutely wound up dead otherwise. 💔
Thank you for continuing to share insight into what a lot of people just dismiss as drugs or laziness. Taking or smoking drugs is usually an attempt to feel normal again. Very sad his family didn't know in time.
Dr. Grande, this young man just vanished, there were signs up all over town a few years ago. We just kept hoping he would turn up, this is just too sad. Thank you for bringing light to this terrible mystery.
I honestly think Logan was developing Schizophrenia. It just makes sense with his behavior before he disappeared and his actions on the road. It's really sad that this may be what happened to him and I think of him wandering around some downtown alone and sleeping on some sidewalk while his family does not know what became of him.
That’s not completely true. His aunt told me he wasn’t randomly walking around naked but they like to add that detail. Also he stopped rocking with his friends because they kept making black jokes.
This is such a sad case and unfortunately, as you said, it was something impossible to predict. My heart goes out to his family. Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
Cannabis use is commonly recognised in the UK as a trigger for the onset of schizophrenia for some people vulnerable to the disease. It constantly amazes me that most Americans seem to be in denial that the widespread usage of this drug causes catastrophic harm to some people's health and leads to other drugs. The United States is a great country that, to me, is blighted by drug use and the crime, health and homelessness issues that drug use causes. It looks from the outside that people have just given up and accepted it as normal.
Even though the things you talk about are usually unfortunate for others, every day I look forward to watching your daily upload and hearing your input on things💞 thank you Dr grande for everything you do
I make the drive from Seattle to Eugene, Oregon all of the time to visit my daughter at University of Oregon. I will always think about Logan when I drive past mile post 92 now. 🙏🏼 I can’t imagine how hard it would be to not know what happened to your loved one. As a parent it’s unimaginable. I honestly don’t know what is worse, knowing what happened and it being a homicide. I tend to agree with you that it was likely schizophrenia. His first experience with an episode. Marijuana became legalized in Washington State in 2012 so I seriously doubt he was having issues with dealers. You can buy it everywhere here. I think there are as many weed stores as there are Starbucks now.
I've never been to anywhere marijuana is legal but I've heard that in Canada, since it was legalised, cause it's taxed, there is still a black market of drug dealing because people want it cheaper. I don't know if it's the same in Washington. This was in a political debate on the merits of drug legalisation.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a Chrysler Sebring Convertible is abandoned like this.
Touching analysis of a precious life. Thank you, Dr Grande. A body/bones have never been found. Granted it is a huge area but still. Maybe some day they will find his remains or hopefully he is living in the homeless community and will be found.
For all we don't know, I know this. Our nation lost a much needed good adult when Logan's mind shifted against him. Wherever he is, alive or deceased, I pray he is comforted by peace.💕 Poor dear young man😞
Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. I agree with you. Love your dry sense of humor. As always I learn something new from your videos. Have a wonderful Sunday.
I feel like some kind of psychosis is definitely a likely cause. Someone who has a precursor to schizophrenia or psychosis and starts to use marijuana or other substances that may induce feelings of paranoia or hallucinations can push them further into a break. I had a couple of clients who had similar situations. In graduate school or post graduate school with a dramatic decline in academic functioning and high use of these types of drugs who capulted into psychosis. It's heartbreaking. I used to always have nightmares from high school until I was about 40 years old, knowing that the onset for psychosis goes down dramatically after that. We have to come up with better ways to help people in these situations before they end up at the devastating results like this. I hope this young man is found, one way or another.
The majority of people can use marijuana medically and recreationally. I used off and on for some years, but it started to make me feel paranoid and I knew that I needed to stop to keep myself safe and comfortable. That said, I think where marijuana is legal it's probably much safer than buying from "some dude."
@@shethingsd also, street drugs are used by researchers who want to see how "chemical compound xuz" effects various demographics, as tests of sorts, for use againdt rivals , or simply as a curiosity, or for R & D, mkultra or big pharma or psyops, scammers, whatever
@@shethingsd He might have been sold "dusted" weed, with PCP or something, which may have triggered this behavior. The drugs were just a catalyst for him though. I stopped smoking the stuff 20 years ago, because it made me intensely paranoid.
Logan’s sister boyfriend had made a comment to someone saying Logan’s dead also a witness claims she saw Logan’s sisters boyfriend driving Logan’s car after he disappeared so no your theory is not correct we won’t blame psychosis on a hate crime
Schizoaffective or Schizophrenia but possibly dual triggers- genetic predisposition plus, 1) Concussions from football and 2) Cannabis edibles. Lots of Cannabis psychosis.
Yep.. I dont like edibles i tried them and had panic attacks and horrible hot flashes. Nope, dont know how people eat these things. Or the sci fi weed they have nowadays..
I live in Thurston County, the area where this case happened. If the young man met misfortune, his body could have been hidden incredibly quickly and with very little chance of discovery. The understory of vegetation is very dense.
I don't doubt that it is hard from your perspective, but many single race people feel singled out for various reasons and feel that they don't relate well or are unacceptable/unaccepted by others - perhaps drawing, poetry, writing stories, playing a musical instrument or singing might give you an avenue of emotional expression which could lead you to communication.
@Don K Actually, I just stopped caring about what anyone thinks about me. Fortunately, I have always had the integrity of telling people exactly what I am when asked. I am half black and half Mexican and proud of it. If they have a problem with it that's their problem. As far as playing an instrument, I have always wanted to but never took the time. Too busy trying to survive. Making videos for my channel is a great outlet for me. Thanks for the advice. ❤️ 😍
@@debbiethompson14 Well, of course, you shouldn't really care what any other people think of you (as long as you consider how safe you are among them and leave them if not), as long as you generally treat others equally and with that respect one human deserves from another (which anyone should certainly understand from their own experience and feelings). And as to any other things - living or not - with due care and humanely.
I had a similar thought. The year he disappeared was the year rump was running for president. A lot of hidden racism started to ooze out of clear people that year. This kid's whole family (and maybe his "friends") were all clear people, and maybe racism hadn't been something he had to think about before, but I know finding out some people in my life were racists really gave me trust issues. And when I tried to explain to clear people how it would be detrimental to POC to have a racist in the white house, I lost some friends who defended rump's racism. So maybe Logan felt isolated because he realized that he was surrounded by people like that. People who supposedly loved him. Just a theory
The part where he Said he was driving around till 6am and had an epiphany makes me think of the onset of schizophrenia. That's around the age it happens, they have epiphanies, and it can be induced or triggered by cannabinoids. That's my theory. Could be completely wrong though.
What? What about "cannabis"''s enormous medical benefits? Cures glaucoma, anxiety, pain, mental illness, epilepsy, etc. etc. I guess Logan was just one of the "unlucky" ones. The amount of sheer horseshit behind pot legalization is stupefying and a true sign of the total decay of American society.
Thank you for the video Dr. Grande. You once again provided us with so much important information. ❤ Somebody who was very close to me had all of these symptoms and eventually developed schizofrenia. I never took the symptoms seriously, and always attributed the odd behaviour to stress. I had no idea. Everything is under control now but I still blame myself for not noticing the warning signs.
Dear Dr G.I had to watch 2 episodes back to back. I now feel satiated, with my strong appetites for scientific analysis and dry humor temporariily satiated. Cheers and thanks.
Seems like what was bothering him inside started showing up when his behavior changed in high school --- inverting into himself and shunning his friends. Perhaps at the heart of his problem was not having his father in his life --- at least a strong male influence. Overall, it looks like the drug use was a destabilizer, and without a meaning and purpose based in reality, it has created a mystery that may never be solved. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for your analysis --- it is always thought provoking and insightful and always educational 😀
Tragic. I know given the amount of time that has passed since Logan's disappearance, chances are slim that he will be found safely. Still, I hope for the best outcome for his family.
I wish the correlation of marijuana use and metal health issues was discussed more. I personally rarely smoke weed unless in a very social situation..concert etc. it makes me very paranoid and manic. Otherwise I don’t have mental health issues…maybe some slight depression. But I do know two people who smoke chronically and have have mental relapse including hospitalization… chicken or the egg?
Every single missing person that Dr. Grande covers mentions a theory about them "running away to start a new life", and in none of them (that I can think of), does Dr. Grande think it's a plausible reason for their disappearance. How often does that actually ever happen? It seems super hard to pull off.
It is so frightening how human males in particular can appear perfectly normal and then in their teens and twenties drastically change and suffer due to mental health changes and challenges. I praise every person who helps people with mental illness as well as those who seek to educate and destigmatize (sp?) mental illness. Thanks Dr. Grande
Could it be because in their teens and twenties they use drugs? Not everyone is going to react the same way when under the influence of drugs The are called drugs for a reason
Dr. Grande - Interesting & disturbing that there's yet another disappearance of a young man. Similar to Jason Landry in Luling, TX; Bryce Laspisa off Hwy 5 in CA; Rico Omarr Harris in Yolo County CA; and many others who've left behind their vehicles, keys, cellphones, wallets with IDs & bank cards, laptops, backpacks, clothing, etc. It's like they literally evaporate. 👍💜🌵
Good morning, Dr. Grande! Marijuana and probably other drugs again, huh? And as for Logan thinking that people were looking at him through his window, he could have simply closed the drapes. I think that your suggested diagnosis of schizophrenia is probably correct, and the drugs didn't help. I suspect that he finally went off the deep end and ultimately ran off into the woods and eventually died of exposure without any help from anyone else. Thanks for sharing.
The saddest part is that so many people were able to dismiss early signs as just some kind of stress or phase of "going thru" something. How it might have been different if somebody had asked him earlier about his problems. A friend's son was seeing a psychiatrist and MD to deal with what appeared to be anxiety. Ultimately it was brain cancer-diffuse astrocytoma.
This is by far the BEST analysis of what happened to him to date I’ve seen many videos of his story but this one ☝️ is the highest likely to what actually happened I have seen great job Doc!!!
I'm not sure about the witness who called the cops a year afterwards reporting they saw an abandoned car. I see a car on the side of the road very often - at least weekly? We drive past, hardly noticed. You couldn't possibly recall seeing a particular car on the side of the road a year ago, and know the date too.
I know this case quite well. His half sister's boyfriend at the time was a drug addict and dirtbag who hated Logan. They started driving his car after he went missing.
There are tens of thousands of police forces and their precinct stations across the USA and many are very small and their budgets resented by tax payers and town councillors and so offices are closed and shifts uncovered when money and staff are tight. Indeed for that matter many small hospitals close their emergency departments on weekends.
Sounds like he was depressed before smoking weed but yes blame the weed and not his immature emotionally inept parents who gave him a life full of confusion and loneliness. Yes he had his grandma but your grandma being forced to take care of you bc of your lack of parents being parents wouldn’t sit right w anyone.
Dr. Grande, would you spend more time on cases in Washington and analyze the death of Otto Zehm at the hands of Spokane police, in 2006? His death was heartbreaking, needless, and criminal. Thank you!
Great video. I've seen many people who use Marijuana have physcholist . I wonder if he put an end to his life during a psychotic events. I wonder if he put an end to his life during a psychotic event. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis and topic
Really? I call BS on that, unless it is their first time using it and are in public. As someone who lives where marijuana is legal and widely accepted, nope. Whatever brain issues this person was having, is almost 100%, not related to marijuana use. Now alcohol, pills, and street drugs are a whole different story.
@@Lady.B0420 Do your research. Pot causes paranoia, depression, addiction, psychosis. Don't be rude to her as she's right. Making it widely used doesn't make it safe 🐑. It's legal because it's lucrative, not this magic, safe drug. Do you know why there are so many cartels in Mexico 🇲🇽? 80% of the billions & billions one sector make are made from POT.
@@Lady.B0420 I didn't want to reply to your BS. I have a medical background, check the facts before you make grandiose statements. May you live happily stoned! !!!!!
Woke up and first thing I do is grab my phone, HAVE to watch Dr Grande before I do anything else. 😃 Such an insightful, intellectual, knowledgeable, and common sensible person and I love your analysis on each subject you analyze!!! We think you are so wonderful, Dr Grande!! ❤️
Goodness doc. Im 59 and have a lot of those symptoms but I dont act erratically nor have auditory nor visual effects. But I have led a traumatic life since childhood. One thing after another. Im guess I have ptsd as well.
I graduated college on May 19th. It would be easy for people to remain isolated in and start to give into strange thoughts today. I wonder what the most likely scenario would be for someone in his situation to do.
Dear Dr. Grande, I would like to thank you once for your clear pronunciation, which allows me, as a little practiced non-native speaker, to watch your videos without subtitles. This is very rare.
What I don't understand is why there would've been any doubt whether Logan's car was the one that crashed into the concrete barrier? If it was the same car, wouldn't there have been extensive damage to it that would've been apparent at the time it was impounded?
There's a lot of problems I feel with the witness statements that haven't really been answered by the investigation. Most striking to me is that if there was other people involved then there should have been some kind of police focus on finding them a bit better or discounting the evidence as being misleading and causing more distractions to what is already quite complicated circumstances. While I'm not personally familiar with that part of the world, if there's some typical facet to that area is a whole lot of tress, hills and and usually some herbaceous ground cover that makes it really hard as hell to find people in- especially if they have been gone for 2-3 days prior to any searches. That lack of response time makes it harder still, if there had been a missing person search in the first 12-24hr you have a chance of people out there whacking bushes and using dogs to find them, but after that its a really exponentially harder scale the longer it goes on and that's for people who want to be found with active search parties. If he's gone running half naked into the area, hiding from other people it really does pose a problem for survival as well, one very cold wet night and some people are just not going to wake up from that. Its a tough one for sure
I was especially shocked that the police department was closed for the weekend. Had it been open, the outcome could very well have been different since, as you noted, the first 24 hours are crucial.
I’m interested in the occurrence of the term “epiphany”. A guy I knew, who also disappeared, would claim that he had had an “epiphany”. He was reluctant to amplify this: he was particularly averse to comparing his experience with that of St Paul, with whom the word is usually associated in the English language I’m accustomed to. Incidentally, although he’d been adopted into a Roman Catholic family he was not a “lapsed Catholic”. He’d always detested the gestalt. I thought of him, rather, as a “never-took Catholic”
Poor kid :( I feel for him because it seems like he was lost Didn’t know what he wanted. To do with his life , His family seemed a little unconventional tbh. Idk The disappeared episode gives a lot of insight into the family And How did he come across these ppl that had his car tho ? I’m sure they checked phone records he rarely used social media. So how did they get in contact to set up meeting , Makes me feel like maybe The. Guys that were seen with the car were unknown to Logan I pray this case finds a resolution for Logan .
He could still be alive. He most definitely had a mental break. In this case, it’s likely it’s a psychotic break. Very possible that he has succumb to the wilderness.
Maybe I'm missing something here.... Either Logan's car looked like it'd hit a median or not. Why was it difficult to confirm or deny that witness statement?
You mentioned paranoia earlier in the presentation. He felt there were people looking in his window. Age 19 - sudden change in attitude and alienating his friends...I'm thinking early signs of schizophrenia, which may have taken him on a journey of his own making and unfortunately, harm or exposure may have befallen him.
would love to see a video about romance scams or catfishing and what it is and why people fall for them . The youtube channel "Catfished "has tons of videos with victims talking about there experiences and how much money they have lost to being scammed ..it may help others to not fall victim plus it is unbelievable how much the people fall for the scammers ..
Hey Dr, I know your probably flooded with requests. But would you ever consider covering the killing of Ethan Liming, who was beaten to death at a school opened by the Lebron James foundation, and how the current sentiment in the US could have contributed to his death, and the inaction of his "friends"?
I'll save Dr. Grande and you time....He died because he was stupid and shot guys with a high tech water gun while they were playing basketball. The guys retaliated and beat him to death. The end. There isn't a big social message to be derived here he was a dumb kid, who played a dumb game and won a dumb prize( beat to death).
I mean, not that I think he should've been killed by any means and I'm glad the men who did it are going on trial, but didnt he ambush them and shoot with pellet guns?
Sad case. Sounds like his Mom wasn’t the most responsible person. And didn’t have a Dad in his life. Not trying to judge but wonder if his grandma kind of ignored the changes he was experiencing. Also letting some dude move in with his two kids who didn’t get along with Logan doesn’t sound too good.
I have a good friend that I went to high school with who was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He constantly smokes Marijuana and with the medication he was prescribed claims that this really helps him. I don't judge him for it because he is just trying to feel like himself.
His car was found near my house. It's so sad. I've wondered if he wasn't experiencing early symptoms of schizophrenia or some similar form of psychosis. It's such a sad case.
So heartbreaking. Such a handsome young man.
I was thnking that when they were talking about the marijuana use. I agree that the symtoms and behavior are very similar, and the age is right. using marijuana might not be a cause, but it´s often seen (in excess) in young people who develop schizophrenia. Self medication?
And yes, so tragic on so many levels. My husband´s cousin, a similarly gifted young man, developed schizophrenia, and life has been very tough for him since then. Then disappearing like that...I feel for Logan and his family.
It fits the age range. A horrible situation when someone is confused and unsure how to get help or just doesn't click that they should reach out yet. 😥
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As a long-time follower, it's wild to see you cover a good friend's cousin. By all accounts, a good kid. Apparently, some of his loved ones strongly suspect homicide. For me, the self-isolation and odd behavior seem hard to ignore.
Either way: It's sad that Logan didn't get a fighting chance against whatever he was dealing with. Thanks for treating his case with kindness.
This is such a sad story. I feel terribly for his family. I also think he was having some issues and it’s too bad he didn’t get help for them.
So sad, and unfortunate. Many people have a really bad experience w/pot; it doesn't keep them for continuing to use. If something he didn't grow, hadn't purchased before and was altered, it would explain the erratic driving. But I'm of the opinion that any weakness, vulnerability evident to public can result in the random act of violence by perps who see an opportunity, if not the confidence from getting away w/it before. Yet again, and drugs are the culprit; whoever sells the pot, usually has others to get you in deeper. What a horrible waste. 🙏For his family,RIP Logan.
@@deejames1st I don't know what it's like where he was, California is terrible!
You say the wrong thing / things and these mental health workers under penalty of losing their employment and perhaps being liable, can't pretend they didn't hear what you said and so have to cover their asses.
It's easier to check yourself into a psych ward, than it is to get yourself out of it. And then your subject to sanctions, perhaps for life on the state level. There's federal penalties too that you have to live with If you've ever been declared a danger to yourself, even if you weren't declareda danger to others.
Case is tend to get overwritten, to protect the worker from any consequences who comes in contact with the person in crisis.
@@frankpaya690 I agree on a lot of your points. These people need more empathetic mental health care.
There’s an issue with the families of some making it harder for the patient due to lack of empathy, denial of responsibility, blame, excuses, etc. Sometimes it’s these people’s own families who end up making it impossible for them to recover. Workers tend to do more when there’s a good family looking out for the patient and helping the patient in their recovery instead of hindering the recovery. When a patient doesn’t have that support system many workers may decide the case is pointless.
But it doesn’t seem like that was the case here, as his family seemed to care about him, and haven’t smeared him for having his issues. I think that maybe it was like Dr. Grande said, the illness progressed quickly in his case, and before anyone realized the depth of it, he was gone.
I also agree with you that these people are very vulnerable to those who would do harm to them and they aren’t in a fit state to defend themselves against it.
self isolation, dd behavior and homicide are not mutally exclusive
Abandon by both parents, moving out of the only safe nest he had with his grandmother...that would have been enough right there.
A guy I know had a break with reality and went into the woods with only an overcoat on ,he spent several nights in the woods ,a fisherman in a drift boat saved him.
My cousin's first break happened 4 years after he was discharged from the service. There were plenty of signs before it happened but people were reluctant to say anything because what if they were wrong? I found him (after searching for days) extremely sunburnt and dehydrated after setting up his new "home" under a pile of driftwood on a beach in Florida. He claimed he was hiding from demons. He received the intensive care he needed and, 25 years later, he's doing well.
He's really fortunate to have you. I am glad he's doing good now.
This is the grandson of a friend’s friend. Such a sad case.
So sad for this family. Esepecialy the grandma who raised him
Such a tragedy. His family has my sympathy. I pray they get closure.
Deepest condolences
Dr Grande , I appreciate your insight. My son’s girlfriend was diagnosed with schizophrenia about 4 months ago. She was having auditory and visual hallucinations. What I found most interesting in this video is you described exactly the symptoms she was having before the hallucinations began. She was exhausted, withdrawn, depressed and emotional for several months. After she told me she was hallucinating I convinced her to go to the hospital. She spent a week in patient psychiatric care. They were able to find medication that worked for her. She’s now back and work and doing well. She still is being monitored and goes to her Dr frequently. The knowledge you spread is so valuable. Thank you.
I’m also grateful to know the symptoms of Schizophrenia. I have looked them up, but never found very helpful information. Dr. Grande says it best! 🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Dr. Grande, thank you for all you that you do. You are such a kind human and I just truly appreciate your calm attitude, sprinkled with hands down the funniest wit.
He is he is the only person I actually listen to on UA-cam his kind words that he uses and carefully describes everything without judging or slaggin the individual is great we care, we watch like continue very professional indeed.
@@sahraali4242 I honestly wish we could all be his patients lol 😉
I’m a New Yorker so I’m jaded but his dry humor is witty 😁😉.
naw, he often makes fun and ridicule the subjects of his spots
Videos like this about the onset of symptoms in young adults are very helpful for me in communicating with my son, who is in this age group. He manages a diagnosis of bipolar type two very well with good social support and adherence to his medications. Because of his experience he does have a tendency to feel attracted and sympathetic to other young people who are experiencing mental health symptoms. He recently observed some erratic, disorganized behavior in a friend. Rather than feeling confused or upset he was able to observe and address the situation proactively. Without some awareness in young people about what might be going on with their peers it is a very disturbing and alarming thing to encounter in their early adult relationships.
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Logan lived in my town. There are still signs up everywhere. Olympia, Wa!
While I do find it to be unlikely that Logan is alive today, one thing Dr. Grande may not know about the area is that, even near the freeway post in those woods, there are several large communities of unhoused people out there. We have large camps, tiny house communities, and more; many of them line the freeway just beyond the tree lines. This is one of those rare cases where the missing person could well be alive and right there near where he went missing.
@@Nevermore694 They might have, but if for some reason Logan felt he was in danger, it´s not certain that the residents of these camps would be cooperative with the searchers. I could see them going out of their way to conceal him if he were frightened of being found.
@@raquellofstedt9713 Good point. I’ll hope he is still alive then. Sounds feasible to me…
Unhoused? No. Homeless. Stop with the doublespeak
Good point, you never know if someone decides to just start a new life. I do have to say though, the term you used in your comment, Unhoused, stood out to me. Curious to know the reason behind saying unhoused compared to the homeless. A person without a house is typically called homeless and I'm wondering if that is now the new "woke" term for homeless lol? Please tell me it's not...I've had enough of these "politically" correct terms when trying to not "offend" someone. I can guarantee a homeless person probably gives a s&!t less if they are called homeless. I'm sure if u did a survey on the unhoused settlements they wouldn't care that they are called homeless. The word games have gone too far on the far left, for sure.
@@roxannespahr2804There is a distinction. Think of the word home and what it means to you compared to the word house. A home is something that is deeper. Home sweet home, not house sweet house. So the distinction can be made that someone who is homeless has nowhere to go that feels like a home or that is a home to them. They can also be without an address or structure to live in which also makes them houseless. There are people who are houseless who do have a home they can return to, maybe a parental home, a grandparent's home, a home with their spouse... Language keeps evolving. If it didn't I would be speaking English in Shakespearean. Or I'd be speaking an older language of my ancestors before they arrived in England.
Farewell ye ragged wart, and thou abate thy rage ye malthouse drudge!
I am glad Dr. Grande included the data that no family member or friend should be blamed for not noticing the symptoms. I can only imagine the family's state of mind at that time. It is just all so sad, to think of that confused person wandering alone towards a likely tragic conclusion.
It's terrifying to know that someone so young, handsome, and promising could decline so quickly due to mental illness. This happened to a brilliant friend of mine too (in his case it was early schizophrenia), but fortunately he was found before he could get hurt and he's doing okay now.
I've had a few psychotic breaks due to CPTSD and I'm so thankful I had family and friends who helped me get admitted to the ER. I would've absolutely wound up dead otherwise. 💔
I’m glad you’re OK.
@@sallysmith7974 thank you ❤️
Thank you for continuing to share insight into what a lot of people just dismiss as drugs or laziness. Taking or smoking drugs is usually an attempt to feel normal again. Very sad his family didn't know in time.
Thanks for doing this case. Im from the town over & no one ever talks about Logan.
Dr. Grande, this young man just vanished, there were signs up all over town a few years ago. We just kept hoping he would turn up, this is just too sad. Thank you for bringing light to this terrible mystery.
I honestly think Logan was developing Schizophrenia. It just makes sense with his behavior before he disappeared and his actions on the road.
It's really sad that this may be what happened to him and I think of him wandering around some downtown alone and sleeping on some sidewalk while his family does not know what became of him.
That’s not completely true. His aunt told me he wasn’t randomly walking around naked but they like to add that detail. Also he stopped rocking with his friends because they kept making black jokes.
That’s not likely there’s so much more to his story it’s crazy that anyone would think this is schizophrenia
@@hollyelectraa7269 like what ?
@@nellybelly4388 hide and seek podcast season 2 James investigates Logan’s disappearance
This is such a sad case and unfortunately, as you said, it was something impossible to predict. My heart goes out to his family.
Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
06:34 am in Belgium 🇧🇪 what a treat for a Sunday morning, thanks Dr Grande
Good morning from Nairobi, Kenya..💕
Cannabis use is commonly recognised in the UK as a trigger for the onset of schizophrenia for some people vulnerable to the disease. It constantly amazes me that most Americans seem to be in denial that the widespread usage of this drug causes catastrophic harm to some people's health and leads to other drugs. The United States is a great country that, to me, is blighted by drug use and the crime, health and homelessness issues that drug use causes. It looks from the outside that people have just given up and accepted it as normal.
There is much to what you say.
Um.. the uk doesn’t have a drug problem? Violence? What about the stabbings??? That uk right?
Even though the things you talk about are usually unfortunate for others, every day I look forward to watching your daily upload and hearing your input on things💞 thank you Dr grande for everything you do
I make the drive from Seattle to Eugene, Oregon all of the time to visit my daughter at University of Oregon. I will always think about Logan when I drive past mile post 92 now. 🙏🏼
I can’t imagine how hard it would be to not know what happened to your loved one. As a parent it’s unimaginable. I honestly don’t know what is worse, knowing what happened and it being a homicide. I tend to agree with you that it was likely schizophrenia. His first experience with an episode.
Marijuana became legalized in Washington State in 2012 so I seriously doubt he was having issues with dealers. You can buy it everywhere here. I think there are as many weed stores as there are Starbucks now.
I've never been to anywhere marijuana is legal but I've heard that in Canada, since it was legalised, cause it's taxed, there is still a black market of drug dealing because people want it cheaper. I don't know if it's the same in Washington. This was in a political debate on the merits of drug legalisation.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a Chrysler Sebring Convertible is abandoned like this.
I think you nailed it, Dr. Grande.
Touching analysis of a precious life. Thank you, Dr Grande.
A body/bones have never been found. Granted it is a huge area but still. Maybe some day they will find his remains or hopefully he is living in the homeless community and will be found.
There are thousands or maybe even millions of homeless who are all over this country...and most of them choose to live this way for what ever reason.
Also pot was legal then in wash. and retail shops are pretty murder free
Yeah, pot smokers generally prefer to chill.
@@DamePiglet I know I do.
Such a handsome young man. This is so sad. Prayers for the family 🙏🏼
This is a sad story. I have to say that in this day and age, it amazes me that the world can still just open up and swallow someone whole.
For all we don't know, I know this. Our nation lost a much needed good adult when Logan's mind shifted against him. Wherever he is, alive or deceased, I pray he is comforted by peace.💕 Poor dear young man😞
Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. I agree with you. Love your dry sense of humor.
As always I learn something new from your videos.
Have a wonderful Sunday.
Dr.Grande is churning out that content!! Go ahead!
Wow another case with a local connection for me! Thanks Dr. Grande.
I feel like some kind of psychosis is definitely a likely cause. Someone who has a precursor to schizophrenia or psychosis and starts to use marijuana or other substances that may induce feelings of paranoia or hallucinations can push them further into a break. I had a couple of clients who had similar situations. In graduate school or post graduate school with a dramatic decline in academic functioning and high use of these types of drugs who capulted into psychosis. It's heartbreaking. I used to always have nightmares from high school until I was about 40 years old, knowing that the onset for psychosis goes down dramatically after that. We have to come up with better ways to help people in these situations before they end up at the devastating results like this. I hope this young man is found, one way or another.
The majority of people can use marijuana medically and recreationally. I used off and on for some years, but it started to make me feel paranoid and I knew that I needed to stop to keep myself safe and comfortable. That said, I think where marijuana is legal it's probably much safer than buying from "some dude."
@@shethingsd also, street drugs are used by researchers who want to see how "chemical compound xuz" effects various demographics, as tests of sorts, for use againdt rivals , or simply as a curiosity, or for R & D,
mkultra or big pharma or psyops, scammers, whatever
@@shethingsd He might have been sold "dusted" weed, with PCP or something, which may have triggered this behavior. The drugs were just a catalyst for him though. I stopped smoking the stuff 20 years ago, because it made me intensely paranoid.
Logan’s sister boyfriend had made a comment to someone saying Logan’s dead also a witness claims she saw Logan’s sisters boyfriend driving Logan’s car after he disappeared so no your theory is not correct we won’t blame psychosis on a hate crime
"Murder-free marijuana experiences are actually pretty common"...I always find myself chuckling at these little quips he inserts 🤣
Schizoaffective or Schizophrenia but possibly dual triggers- genetic predisposition plus,
1) Concussions from football and
2) Cannabis edibles. Lots of Cannabis psychosis.
Yep.. I dont like edibles i tried them and had panic attacks and horrible hot flashes. Nope, dont know how people eat these things. Or the sci fi weed they have nowadays..
I live in Thurston County, the area where this case happened. If the young man met misfortune, his body could have been hidden incredibly quickly and with very little chance of discovery. The understory of vegetation is very dense.
I am multi-racial and it has always been very hard. No one accepts us and don't understand that it's a problem....even my Mexican mother.
I don't doubt that it is hard from your perspective, but many single race people feel singled out for various reasons and feel that they don't relate well or are unacceptable/unaccepted by others - perhaps drawing, poetry, writing stories, playing a musical instrument or singing might give you an avenue of emotional expression which could lead you to communication.
@Don K Actually, I just stopped caring about what anyone thinks about me. Fortunately, I have always had the integrity of telling people exactly what I am when asked. I am half black and half Mexican and proud of it. If they have a problem with it that's their problem.
As far as playing an instrument, I have always wanted to but never took the time. Too busy trying to survive. Making videos for my channel is a great outlet for me. Thanks for the advice. ❤️ 😍
@@debbiethompson14 Well, of course, you shouldn't really care what any other people think of you (as long as you consider how safe you are among them and leave them if not), as long as you generally treat others equally and with that respect one human deserves from another (which anyone should certainly understand from their own experience and feelings). And as to any other things - living or not - with due care and humanely.
I had a similar thought. The year he disappeared was the year rump was running for president. A lot of hidden racism started to ooze out of clear people that year. This kid's whole family (and maybe his "friends") were all clear people, and maybe racism hadn't been something he had to think about before, but I know finding out some people in my life were racists really gave me trust issues. And when I tried to explain to clear people how it would be detrimental to POC to have a racist in the white house, I lost some friends who defended rump's racism. So maybe Logan felt isolated because he realized that he was surrounded by people like that. People who supposedly loved him. Just a theory
@@Don.Kiwitas Absolutely 💯
Thank you, Dr. Grande. This was an educational video. I appreciate you.
Good afternoon from the other side of the world!
Good morning
I’m just hopping into bed! 😆
In that area, there are no police available on the weekend? Crazy.
The part where he Said he was driving around till 6am and had an epiphany makes me think of the onset of schizophrenia. That's around the age it happens, they have epiphanies, and it can be induced or triggered by cannabinoids. That's my theory. Could be completely wrong though.
I wrote this before hearing the end of your video! Looks like you have the same theory.
What? What about "cannabis"''s enormous medical benefits? Cures glaucoma, anxiety, pain, mental illness, epilepsy, etc. etc. I guess Logan was just one of the "unlucky" ones.
The amount of sheer horseshit behind pot legalization is stupefying and a true sign of the total decay of American society.
I have epiphanies all the time and as far as I know I’m not hear voices…..yet.
I read that marijuana can trigger mental problems in people who are prone to psychosis.
@@coldstoli1 Nowadays we hear all about the good side of marijuana. It obviously has both good and bad sides. Neither should be hidden.
Thank you for the video Dr. Grande. You once again provided us with so much important information. ❤ Somebody who was very close to me had all of these symptoms and eventually developed schizofrenia. I never took the symptoms seriously, and always attributed the odd behaviour to stress. I had no idea. Everything is under control now but I still blame myself for not noticing the warning signs.
Dear Dr G.I had to watch 2 episodes back to back. I now feel satiated, with my strong appetites for scientific analysis and dry humor temporariily satiated. Cheers and thanks.
Seems like what was bothering him inside started showing up when his behavior changed in high school --- inverting into himself and shunning his friends. Perhaps at the heart of his problem was not having his father in his life --- at least a strong male influence. Overall, it looks like the drug use was a destabilizer, and without a meaning and purpose based in reality, it has created a mystery that may never be solved. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for your analysis --- it is always thought provoking and insightful and always educational 😀
Wonder if he ever spoke to a school councillor & they have missed the opportunity to get him proper help or it’s related to something else entirely??
Hola, Dr. Grande. You sure are working hard and we appreciate it. Bendiciones 🙏🏽💙
Tragic. I know given the amount of time that has passed since Logan's disappearance, chances are slim that he will be found safely. Still, I hope for the best outcome for his family.
Very sad story! What a handsome young man!
I wish the correlation of marijuana use and metal health issues was discussed more.
I personally rarely smoke weed unless in a very social situation..concert etc. it makes me very paranoid and manic. Otherwise I don’t have mental health issues…maybe some slight depression. But I do know two people who smoke chronically and have have mental relapse including hospitalization… chicken or the egg?
Glad to hear this take on the case. It's one of those I find particularly compelling.
Every single missing person that Dr. Grande covers mentions a theory about them "running away to start a new life", and in none of them (that I can think of), does Dr. Grande think it's a plausible reason for their disappearance. How often does that actually ever happen? It seems super hard to pull off.
@@mandywarski2414 Not to mention security cameras all over the place..
Sounds like 2 more great parents !!I'm so sick of people who DON'T take of their children !!
He was 19. You'd be complaining if they were too controlling of him as well.
Poor soul. Very sad for everyone involved.
How can a police station be closed on the weekend?
It is so frightening how human males in particular can appear perfectly normal and then in their teens and twenties drastically change and suffer due to mental health changes and challenges. I praise every person who helps people with mental illness as well as those who seek to educate and destigmatize (sp?) mental illness. Thanks Dr. Grande
Could it be because in their teens and twenties they use drugs? Not everyone is going to react the same way when under the influence of drugs The are called drugs for a reason
I remember this case. Interesting !
Dr. Grande - Interesting & disturbing that there's yet another disappearance of a young man. Similar to Jason Landry in Luling, TX; Bryce Laspisa off Hwy 5 in CA; Rico Omarr Harris in Yolo County CA; and many others who've left behind their vehicles, keys, cellphones, wallets with IDs & bank cards, laptops, backpacks, clothing, etc. It's like they literally evaporate. 👍💜🌵
Lulling is up the road from me.I haven't heard anything new on the Landry case.
Good morning, Dr. Grande!
Marijuana and probably other drugs again, huh?
And as for Logan thinking that people were looking at him through his window, he could have simply closed the drapes.
I think that your suggested diagnosis of schizophrenia is probably correct, and the drugs didn't help.
I suspect that he finally went off the deep end and ultimately ran off into the woods and eventually died of exposure without any help from anyone else.
Thanks for sharing.
Waiting for you! ❤ the poor kid 😢
The saddest part is that so many people were able to dismiss early signs as just some kind of stress or phase of "going thru" something. How it might have been different if somebody had asked him earlier about his problems. A friend's son was seeing a psychiatrist and MD to deal with what appeared to be anxiety. Ultimately it was brain cancer-diffuse astrocytoma.
This is by far the BEST analysis of what happened to him to date I’ve seen many videos of his story but this one ☝️ is the highest likely to what actually happened I have seen great job Doc!!!
I'm not sure about the witness who called the cops a year afterwards reporting they saw an abandoned car. I see a car on the side of the road very often - at least weekly? We drive past, hardly noticed. You couldn't possibly recall seeing a particular car on the side of the road a year ago, and know the date too.
I know this case quite well. His half sister's boyfriend at the time was a drug addict and dirtbag who hated Logan. They started driving his car after he went missing.
4:22 what kind of police dept closes on the weekend? even for a small town, is that normal??
The Police were CLOSED???
There are tens of thousands of police forces and their precinct stations across the USA and many are very small and their budgets resented by tax payers and town councillors and so offices are closed and shifts uncovered when money and staff are tight. Indeed for that matter many small hospitals close their emergency departments on weekends.
@@Don.Kiwitas Thanks
Drugs and alcohol ruin lives. 🥺
Sounds like he was depressed before smoking weed but yes blame the weed and not his immature emotionally inept parents who gave him a life full of confusion and loneliness. Yes he had his grandma but your grandma being forced to take care of you bc of your lack of parents being parents wouldn’t sit right w anyone.
In excess, absolutely.
You're correct 💯
Da 👑 Dr Grande. Good morning from the French Alps. 💖
Dr. Grande, would you spend more time on cases in Washington and analyze the death of Otto Zehm at the hands of Spokane police, in 2006? His death was heartbreaking, needless, and criminal. Thank you!
Great video. I've seen many people who use Marijuana have physcholist . I wonder if he put an end to his life during a psychotic events. I wonder if he put an end to his life during a psychotic event. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis and topic
Really? I call BS on that, unless it is their first time using it and are in public.
As someone who lives where marijuana is legal and widely accepted, nope. Whatever brain issues this person was having, is almost 100%, not related to marijuana use. Now alcohol, pills, and street drugs are a whole different story.
@@Lady.B0420 Do your research. Pot causes paranoia, depression, addiction, psychosis. Don't be rude to her as she's right. Making it widely used doesn't make it safe 🐑. It's legal because it's lucrative, not this magic, safe drug. Do you know why there are so many cartels in Mexico 🇲🇽? 80% of the billions & billions one sector make are made from POT.
Hi dear. I had a response last night but think it didn't show? Hope you're having a great weekend, seeing Mum today. Hugs...🌷🌵🌻🥰💟❤💟❤🐭🍭🍪
@@Lady.B0420 I didn't want to reply to your BS. I have a medical background, check the facts before you make grandiose statements. May you live happily stoned! !!!!!
@@zenawarrior7442 Hello my lovely friend, sorry been having problems with baby Noah, not dealing well with loss of his sister. Hugs from all 😢💔💔💔💔❤💙
Woke up and first thing I do is grab my phone, HAVE to watch Dr Grande before I do anything else. 😃 Such an insightful, intellectual, knowledgeable, and common sensible person and I love your analysis on each subject you analyze!!! We think you are so wonderful, Dr Grande!! ❤️
Goodness doc. Im 59 and have a lot of those symptoms but I dont act erratically nor have auditory nor visual effects. But I have led a traumatic life since childhood. One thing after another. Im guess I have ptsd as well.
💔😔💔Great analysis 🧐. I can’t even imagine.
I graduated college on May 19th.
It would be easy for people to remain isolated in and start to give into strange thoughts today.
I wonder what the most likely scenario would be for someone in his situation to do.
Dear Dr. Grande,
I would like to thank you once for your clear pronunciation, which allows me, as a little practiced non-native speaker, to watch your videos without subtitles. This is very rare.
What I don't understand is why there would've been any doubt whether Logan's car was the one that crashed into the concrete barrier? If it was the same car, wouldn't there have been extensive damage to it that would've been apparent at the time it was impounded?
There's a lot of problems I feel with the witness statements that haven't really been answered by the investigation. Most striking to me is that if there was other people involved then there should have been some kind of police focus on finding them a bit better or discounting the evidence as being misleading and causing more distractions to what is already quite complicated circumstances. While I'm not personally familiar with that part of the world, if there's some typical facet to that area is a whole lot of tress, hills and and usually some herbaceous ground cover that makes it really hard as hell to find people in- especially if they have been gone for 2-3 days prior to any searches.
That lack of response time makes it harder still, if there had been a missing person search in the first 12-24hr you have a chance of people out there whacking bushes and using dogs to find them, but after that its a really exponentially harder scale the longer it goes on and that's for people who want to be found with active search parties. If he's gone running half naked into the area, hiding from other people it really does pose a problem for survival as well, one very cold wet night and some people are just not going to wake up from that.
Its a tough one for sure
I was especially shocked that the police department was closed for the weekend. Had it been open, the outcome could very well have been different since, as you noted, the first 24 hours are crucial.
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I’m interested in the occurrence of the term “epiphany”. A guy I knew, who also disappeared, would claim that he had had an “epiphany”. He was reluctant to amplify this: he was particularly averse to comparing his experience with that of St Paul, with whom the word is usually associated in the English language I’m accustomed to. Incidentally, although he’d been adopted into a Roman Catholic family he was not a “lapsed Catholic”. He’d always detested the gestalt. I thought of him, rather, as a “never-took Catholic”
Sending Sunshine from Down Under 🇦🇺
Poor kid :( I feel for him because it seems like he was lost Didn’t know what he wanted. To do with his life ,
His family seemed a little unconventional tbh. Idk The disappeared episode gives a lot of insight into the family
And How did he come across these ppl that had his car tho ? I’m sure they checked phone records he rarely used social media. So how did they get in contact to set up meeting , Makes me feel like maybe The. Guys that were seen with the car were unknown to Logan I pray this case finds a resolution for Logan .
Heartbreaking.
He could still be alive. He most definitely had a mental break. In this case, it’s likely it’s a psychotic break. Very possible that he has succumb to the wilderness.
I think it would be very difficult for him not to be found by now if he was alive. It’s been 6 years
I like theory number two.
Sounds like drugs influenced his decision to take himself out
Maybe I'm missing something here.... Either Logan's car looked like it'd hit a median or not. Why was it difficult to confirm or deny that witness statement?
9:45 “murder free marajuana experience is actually pretty common, one could argue it’s the most popular form….”😂☠️
You mentioned paranoia earlier in the presentation. He felt there were people looking in his window. Age 19 - sudden change in attitude and alienating his friends...I'm thinking early signs of schizophrenia, which may have taken him on a journey of his own making and unfortunately, harm or exposure may have befallen him.
What's the deal with Olympia WA being associated with so many missing person's cases?
Totally. Lots near there as well as in the Olympic National Park.
It’s on I-5 and nearly halfway between Seattle and Portland, the two largest cities in the area.
Good looking kid.
would love to see a video about romance scams or catfishing and what it is and why people fall for them . The youtube channel "Catfished "has tons of videos with victims talking about there experiences and how much money they have lost to being scammed ..it may help others to not fall victim plus it is unbelievable how much the people fall for the scammers ..
Thank you
Hey Dr, I know your probably flooded with requests. But would you ever consider covering the killing of Ethan Liming, who was beaten to death at a school opened by the Lebron James foundation, and how the current sentiment in the US could have contributed to his death, and the inaction of his "friends"?
I'll save Dr. Grande and you time....He died because he was stupid and shot guys with a high tech water gun while they were playing basketball. The guys retaliated and beat him to death. The end. There isn't a big social message to be derived here he was a dumb kid, who played a dumb game and won a dumb prize( beat to death).
I mean, not that I think he should've been killed by any means and I'm glad the men who did it are going on trial, but didnt he ambush them and shoot with pellet guns?
So sad.....
Always interesting.
Thank you
Peace 💕🇺🇲
I think you're right about schizophrenia He was the right age for it to develop. They use drugs too. The way he was acting sounds like it.
Sad case. Sounds like his Mom wasn’t the most responsible person. And didn’t have a Dad in his life. Not trying to judge but wonder if his grandma kind of ignored the changes he was experiencing. Also letting some dude move in with his two kids who didn’t get along with Logan doesn’t sound too good.
I agree with you 💯 doc.
I have a good friend that I went to high school with who was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He constantly smokes Marijuana and with the medication he was prescribed claims that this really helps him. I don't judge him for it because he is just trying to feel like himself.
Sad story 😢