Woman Disappears from Her House During Wild Dating Phase | Nancy Moyer Case Analysis
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2024
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As I was listening my husband came in the room and laughed at your comment about murdering customers is not good for sales. I love your delivery!
@@MegaAdrian321 A joke light that lightens the Mood if you are just serious all the time about these things, it will get depressed
@@charlesdwayne2196 there’s plenty of appropriate things to laugh about. The topic is a tragedy.
@@discombob Every murder, kidnapping or other fucked up thing is a tragedy
His jokes are dry, usually corny and often barely has any correlation to what he's talking about.... Where's the good in that?
Those of us who adore the good doctors videos like every part - the shirts, the lighting, the cacti, the hard work and dedication AND the jokes! We do not want any of this to change!
Dr.Grande, could you do a video on why a person would confess to a crime they did not commit?
I'm not asking you to diagnose anyone, just asking you to speculate on what might be going on in a situation like this.
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There are people with OCD who think they've committed horrible crimes
usually those are low intellect people. there is no torture involved. only too many hours, lack of sleep that at this point everybody knows (except low intellect people) that aren't going to last forever, and know their rights
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Love this comment
Poor Jim never knew that his moment of erectile dysfunction would ever make it all the way to our ears...
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poor Jim's flaccid weiner
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I think Bernard did it. He’s probably impotent just like you So Core😂😂
Why was the police officer who claimed to see her enter the house alone earlier not considered a suspect? She left in a great hurry with someone, without a struggle and probably in a panic since everything was left behind and the door wide open. Who else could cause someone to behave that way other than a trusted authority figure with an "emergency"?
very good point!
Good point!
I was literally thinking the exact same thing.
Came here to say that but you worded it so much better! Boom!
Exactly, you would leave in a hurry if a police officer told you he was there to take you to the hospital as one of your daughters had been hurt.
Every time Dr Grande says “just a reminder, I’m not diagnosing anybody in this video, only speculating on what could be happening in a situation like this”, I picture him winking at the camera.
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@@bunnyluver2176 right! I’m sure it’s for legal purposes.
he'd be committing GROSS NEGLIGENCE if he winked at the camera or was doing anything besides what he says he is doing.
He knows NO MORE than anyone else who investigates this from the outside.
stop watching so many forensics shows
@@markmike7933 you okay bro?
With so many potential suspects I’m not even sure I can rule myself out…
Hahaha, love it 😂
Aw! Go on with your bad self!
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Alliterate analysis was accurately astute as well as affectively amusing! Great work, Dr. Grande!
Learning from the master! 🎖
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Dr. Grande’s mad wicked humour. I bet you must have many many friends tho eh?
The fact that there are three potential suspects is scary to me, reminds me of your Zodiac Killer video where there were like dozens of suspects who match the profile of a sick weirdo who could kill somebody
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@@annemarson4144 fuck around and find out. Then and now casual sex never lead to anything good for women. Hope the sex was worth it...
A thing to consider is that she left her cigarettes behind, yet her overcoat was gone. That might indicate that someone called her attention to something outside but she hadn't planned to go anywhere. Smokers always know where their pack is. Someone called her outside to see something, such as a car or something in yard or house. That would indicate someone known to her and at that time of night I am betting on the neighbor.
I also thought that, maybe she was at the porche taking a smoke with her coat on, and she was planning to enter the house soon that's why she left the door open, and someone called her outside or someone approached her and took her.
@@stuckinherdaydream This.
Marina R that’s exactly what I thought
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smokers have smokes in every pocket also.. it is a posibility
Impressive last sentence!
She probably knew her killer since there were no signs of a struggle. Very sad for her family.
I take the front door being open as a sign of a struggle. Nobody does that on purpose.
@@MakerInMotion Agree. I also take her leaving her bag & keys as a sign of a struggle - no one leaves their home without those items but with their coat on. Seems to me that she put the coat on to leave in her own car after a verbal altercation with Jim, and things escalated into a 'semi-abduction'.
I like how you broke down all the possible scenarios and ranked them according to probabilities. Interesting case.
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@sharonwilfong503 “Probabilities”????
I think you mean plausibility…….
@@raymaharaj4502 I think I meant he ranked them according to the most probable scenario to the least probable. I assume that Grande was implying that the most plausible would be the most probable. Nothing to quibble about.
It sounds like Jim is the most likely suspect to me. Him changing his story and also saying he’d been to her house “ looking for her “ is odd. Also, so he left the door open after leaving?
I feel so sad for her children and other loved ones. I can’t imagine never knowing what happened to my mother , it’s horrible.
Great work as always, Dr G !
Him leaving the door open like it was when he arrived, makes sense. Also, him changing to leave out the fact that he couldn't get it up... not the strangest change for a man in a retelling years later. The date change is the most alarming part.
I think it was Jims ex wife.
I think it was Jim. Jim may have came by that evening and invited Nancy for a drink in his car. Later that evening Jim wanted to second chance at sex with Nancy due to the first time failing. Well he fail again and Nancy being a little tipsy, laugh at Jim's short coming. Therefore, he choked her to death. Buried her body either in a river or swamp. That's just my theory
I agree. Front doors wide open...you go inside, proceed all the way in her bdrm. Her car's there, TV's on yet, she's nowhere to be found. You just walk out & leave the door wide open?!? No concern even when days go by & still no word from her?! You didn't bother to call her & leave a msg...say you came by (thot they had a date) but she was M.I.A & front door was wide open so, wanted to make sure she was okay? Heck, if still no word w/in 24 hrs: go back & if car still there & door open - call for a wellness ck! At least leave a note on the door or her car. Nope. He did nothing/said nothing - until cops contacted him (after finding out about him by going thru her phone records.) Red flags galore IMO!!
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Nancy sounds Bi-Polar between the excessive debt and promiscuity. Her promiscuity was to the level of a complete disregard for her safety.
Or bpd
But she did not deserve to be killed!
Or just bad with money and loved the "D"
HOW? Was she wearing a mask at the bar??
@@dantauche7917 I know, same thing I was thinking, I don't want to disrespect her but she looked like a Jacky Kennedy with fetal alcohol syndrome or dwarfism, but hey, guys are thirsty.
I love your videos about strange disappearances. Its always a fascination how a person can go missing and you always bring great insight.
You should check out the " missing 411" videos..
It's all about strange disappearances
@@lostsoul1278 cool, i'll check it out. I like the youtube channel, trace evidence
Thank you so much Dr. Grande, we live right here and never heard about this case. Tenino is a tiny town named after the 10-9-0 train from big logging days of yore. We appreciate all of your videos so much, Take good care.❤ What a wrap up ~
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I don't remember hearing about this Case in the News or Newspaper. What is not mentioned in this Vid: Phone Records, If a Local Bar was Frequented did staff notice anyone that caught their attention... Did The Meat Deliverer perhaps have an invite for a drink during a delivery for that Friday Night. Wonder how far Police Investigated, Considering She had 2 Young Children, there should have been more Details of Investigation.
Listen to the "Hide and Seek" Season 1 podcast which is extremely in-depth. In fact the confession of Eric Roberts occurred during the podcast which came out almost weekly close to real time as they investigated her vanishing. Many believe the pressure from the podcast may have prompted the confession as they had been seeking to interview him.
Season 2 investigates the disappearance of a young man also from Olympia.
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I do the same thing and usually fall asleep halfway through. I often watch the same vid a few days in a row🤣...and forget about when the situations go into my dreams🤯... Thats another story
Me too!! He’s one of the few creators on here that help me fall asleep. I think I also like how methodical every video is
that's hilarious because I listen to Dr. Grande before bed also. I do fall asleep and the TV shuts off with the timer. Then I have to go back and watch what I fell asleep through! I love his delivery but he's also calming at the same time.
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The guy Bernard could've easily gotten Nancy out of her house without a struggle. Nancy didn't know him well, but she did know him. So her opening her door to speak with Bernard is plausible. If he were to pull a weapon, such as a knife or a gun, he could've easily talked her out of her house. "Nancy, you see I have a gun. I don't want to shoot you, but I will if you force me to. I need you to come with me. if you do so without causing issues, I promise I will not hurt you. If you cause trouble, I will put a bullet in your head right now. You decide." So getting her out of her house without showing signs of a struggle would be relatively easy. I have to say, this woman has some seriously bad luck with the people she interacts with. Her food delivery guy is a murderer. Her neighbor is apparently a psycho who admitted to being a murderer, and then took it all back. And her co-worker is possibly a killer, or a liar or an idiot, who also can't get it up.
Jeremy br2020: I agree she saw
And don't forget the cop! And the 50 men she knew from bars.
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I agree that it was more than likely a stranger, some guy she met at a bar. I don't think it was Jim. I think he went to her home looking for her because they were supposed to get together that weekend. I think he was just curious as to why he couldn't reach her. Eric sounds like a complete nut so it could have been him. If he didn't do it he's a mental case for confessing. Bernard the meat seller could have been the killer too, after all, he killed once before so why not again? Plus she had his brand of meat in her freezer, so I'm going to say it's a toss-up between him and Eric. It's possible that she didn't leave voluntarily because her cigarettes were on the porch? She could have been sitting outside smoking when a guy approached her with a gun and told her to get in his car. A scenario like that wouldn't look like a struggle. I don't think she would have left her bag and ID inside with the door hanging open if she left voluntarily. To me that screams abduction.
The abduction theory sounds likely... prehaps the meat guy came to her place at night after her buying meat after fixating on her...?
@@nickyblue4866 The reason I feel it was a forced abduction is because what woman would leave without her bag, her ID and make-up, etc.? On top of that leave the door hanging open to allow an unwanted intruder inside who could be hiding and lying in wait for her to return? Or a thief to rob her while she was away? I don't think so. She couldn't have been that much in a hurry to have sex with someone.
I think some unknown guy frightened her with a gun and she complied. Which is why there wasn't a scuffle. It may have been an unknown stalker who had observed her in a bar hanging out with different men, followed her home, knew where she lived, and plotted his move after deciding she was an easy target.
@@nickyblue4866 Yes, the meat guy is a valid theory too.
I find it odd she left without her cigs. unless she was a very light smoker this is odd, especially as she was drinking wine. I really wanna know if that pack was open.
(The unfortunate nature of that addiction is that your cigs are as important as your coat, maybe even more so & def more important than your purse.)
if she was sitting on her porch smoking (in her coat) and hadn’t properly closed the door, the neighbor seems pretty reasonable- maybe he had been watching her and knew that she’d be alone and tipsy or maybe she was voluntarily into a quickie, but she didn’t think she was going to be gone long, if the cigs were left behind.
I thought the same thing. She wouldn't have left without her cigarettes.
You're probably right she was on her porch smoking, door slightly ajar. Someone she was quite familiar with pulled up asked if she wants to share another bottle, of course she does, so he tells her hop in the car, you don't need anything the stores just down the road... someone she knew or a cop she'd she'd shared some flirty words with earlier in his shift as he sat watching for speeders and first saw her carry her one bag alone into the house.
You're right. I've forgotten to pick up wine from the store, but never cigs.
@@OregonSingles now that's an interesting theory! And no-one suspected the cop.
Maybe she had two packs of cigarettes🙄
Another awesome video! Nice break from writing up my psychotherapy notes at the clinic 🙌
I often wonder what happened to her and whether her kids will ever have any closure.
Local here, it's pronounced like Ten-Nine-oh.
It makes me so happy when you do your summary via alliteration poetry at the end.
Props for the articulate and alluring alliteration there at the end!
Your alliteration in this one is wonderful!
How difficult for her family; particularly her daughters. So very sorry. So wish these things didn't happen. xx Thanks again!
Never underestimate the impact of booze/drugs on people. She clearly started leading a reckless life hooking up with lots of guys, and looks like the father spent more days with the kids than the mother. In any normal situation no woman would leave without their purse, their car, cell phone, locking their door, etc. So either someone did say they needed her help with an emergency or similar need that caused her to leave at around midnight in a rush. I hate missing persons cases with no closure. Her poor kids stuck wondering what the heck happened, and their lives forever turned upside down. Any person with kids needs to grow up a bit and lead a more responsible life for the children's sake at least. Another sad story. I feel like there are more and more of these disappearances. Also especially if you have kids, don't divorce quickly and for petty reasons. Marriage is a huge stabilizing factor, which is why your insurance goes down if you say you are married.
Yes, ita, people divorce for petty reasons.
as a parent you should be more careful ...
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It seems odd to me that a police officer who was watching for speeding cars noticed her walking into her house at a certain time.
Did the cop do it....? 😱
Maybe early on in his career and was taking it too seriously?
It's strange to you that a cop would be paying attention?
When you make a habit of noticing things, you notice a lot of things. Cops are used to observing and remembering what they've observed, doesn't seem weird to me.
@@defundhollywood3259 Exactly. I don't understand how IQs in this country continue their steep decline....
I’m always impressed by the alliteration at the end of each video!!
Wonder why her coat was gone, like she was prepared to go outside but the door was left open. Love your analysis and the ending was especially clever !
Yeah, it seems like something got her attention so she left the door open and went outside expecting to come back.
Maybe sat on porch smoking? Sounds like jealous woman getting a man Nancy slept with?
@@uggggggghhhhh Since her lighter and cigarettes were on the porch, she probably went outside for a smoke so it makes sense that she would wear her coat, as well as leave her door ajar in order to hear the phone ring. That's when something happened to her.
@Missy Wink Great deduction! 👍 Sincerely, as one who used to smoke, that makes sense.
I think she was smoking on the porch that’s why the door was open and she had her coat on. One of the three guys passed by in a car and took her.
Or it was the police officer who saw her going home alone!?
The good ol’ sex rampage method of getting over a divorce or breakup. Effective in the short term…hollow, empty, and depressing in the long term.
Good evening!! Looking forward to tonight’s program.
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You win the Guinness Book of Records - the most alliteration in 1 minute category!!
I was married to a man that owned a frozen meat sales company, I can tell you they are all trouble. He was diagnosed NPD w/sociopathic characteristics and was abusive, violent, went to jail and was convicted. Pretty much anyone that worked for him was a convicted felon, a few of them went to jail over the years for domestic violence. Fun fact, his dad was one of the prime suspects in a still unsolved murder, if you want to look at it. Jill Bounds in Dallas. There's a D magazine article with all the info. Similar story as she was seeing multiple people, and my ex father in law was married at the time of their affair. She was found bludgeoned to death in her own home, no forced entry, all doors locked. Happened late 80s or early 90s. Apparently it may run in the family
Stereotype of butchers is that they’re generally nice people. Perhaps this doesn’t extend to sellers of frozen meat, but only to people who actually cut up food animals. The food writer M. F. K. Fisher supported this stereotype by writing favorably about butchers in one of her books, wondering why they tended to be uncommonly kind or something to that effect.
She would not have left her cigarettes behind
Good afternoon Dr Grande. What a strange situation, with all the men involved, it makes it harder to prove who did it. I believe she was murdered and will never be seen again. My sympathy goes too her daughters. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis, tragic outcome and informative topic.
She brought it on herself, boring case
@@nealkelly9757 We don't know that. Not boring at all I believe.
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Bernard delivered the meat, and Jim had trouble delivering the meat. Either way, it sounds like Nancy received a lot of meat. I think the morals of the story are, never get your meat from a butcher, don't go to a bar to get your meat, and avoid receiving meat from a coworker or neighbor. Lastly, always order your meat via an online app, such as Tender.
"Tender" 😂😂😂
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The sex and spending sounds like maybe Nancy had some undiagnosed bi-polar struggles. She has the facial features of someone with fetal alcohol so despite being very smart maybe that played a roll in her behaviour. Sounds like she was a good mom who made sure she kept her "wild life" separate from them and took good care of them. It's sad they lost her and with no answers. It also sounds like their dad was a good stable person so I hope they had a good upbringing and supportive home with him.
I too wondered about the FAS facial characteristics. If remember correctly, mental deterioration ensues in 20s or 30s. Sad, if true. Still, she was vulnerable.
Finally someone that notices her very abnormal facial features. I learned about this case since a very long time ago and I always thought that her face was just really ODD! Like it even made me uncomfortable the first time I saw it. I don't doubt for a second that she had FAS (her parents definitely have some explaining to do 🤨), and yes, her weird behaviors kinda make her seen as if she was bipolar or bpd. Anyways, I hope the case gets solved soon.
Im glad others are mentioning her face. Made me wonder how she had "many" sexual encounters.
@@dantauche7917 I mean she met most of those men at bars so we can already assume why those type of dudes would agree to do anything with her. Those are some or the worst dudes out there and they're very desperate to get some. Tbh I think she's dead and that most likely she met her killer at a bar.
If she was going through a divorce her foolish behavior could have just been temporary and not due to a personality disorder!
There was a case similar to this where a woman with 2 or 3 daughters was murdered and there were 3 viable suspects (a current boyfriend, a recent ex-BF and an ex-husband) and it ended up being the ex-husband (despite the fact that they had been divorced for at least 10 years, if I recall correctly).
My intuition tells me that the killer was the food delivery driver. He had means and opportunity.
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Really interesting case! To me it seems like she went outside expecting to come back shortly after and thats why the door was left ajar and her coat was gone. I don't know if a kidnapper would go into her home and tell her to put a coat on before leaving.
Really scary though, especially because I sometimes run outside late at night exactly the same way (put on a coat and leave my door ajar) whenever I hear a strange sound.
I don't know how people are able to move on when someone they love goes missing, not judging them negatively at all, it just must be so difficult and stressful, I don't think I'd ever be at peace if my mom, sister or friend went missing like that. I can't even imagine going through such torture.
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“hi im the guy who sells meat ! you want to take a midnight ride in my vehicle for no apparent reason ? “☠️😂😂😂 not referencing the movie “midnight meat train “or anything dr Grande 👀
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Real reverence regarding your reasoning & recognizing your resourcefulness. Remarkable.
It was worth it for the alliteration at the end. Thank you. 👏
Funny, my #1 suspect never came up again, and he was the last person to see her alive. Tell me, if it were an ex or a co-worker, that happened to be sitting in a car across the street, instead of a cop, do you think he might be a suspect? Where was she from 6:45 until the cop saw her after 9? Wherever that was, no one can be found to witness that? An empty wine glass, and a started but not finished glass of wine, 2+ hrs missing, then thanks to a perfectly positioned cop, her story begins after 9..... Does he have any tickets issued between 6:45 and the time he says he saw her? ....
Opportunity is half the reason for a crime to take place.* - She is getting a reputation for being available, he sees her at the store, on the road, he follows her, He knocks on the door to gain entry, he's a cop so she let's him in, he propositions her, she rejects him, dirty deeds and their done dirt cheap, he carries her body out to his cruiser so can't close the door, puts her in the trunk and sets up like he's working for GPS, gets rid of the body at the end of his shift; and he doesn't go back for the door. Or he hides the body outside and goes back after shift.
Peace
*not really half, I'm sure, lol, I'm just kind of making up my own idiom
Edit - my point with the wine glasses was, that was her routine, which she was half way through that night, when there was a knock on the door. That would have been 2+ hours before the cop says she got home. Ya, she could start the glass of wine then, but now it's getting pretty late, so, if she didn't finish the glass of wine, that knock came pretty soon after she got home, so why wouldn't the cop see that too? How many glasses had been poured from the bottles she just bought? Was it her first, second?
Well the cop could've got her to leave quick also, hence why the door was left open and all her stuff left behind except her coat, i think you're onto something, they need to look into that cops evening
yeah that struck me as odd too! In fact before i had even considered any specific suspect i thought to myself "hmm this sounds like one of those very peculiar crime mysteries that remain unsolved for years and years until finally one day some new piece of evidence emerges that no one saw coming, and in the end we all find out it wasn't the ex bf or the co-worker as suspected, it was a cop or an ex cop or some politician / authority figure in a position to cover up a crime like this!
RIP & condolences to her family
You have excelled yourself good Dr. How you managed to find so many appropriate words starting with R does leave me deeply impressed and entertained 🤣🤣🤣👌👌
3/9/23 Nancy, rip🌹love to her family and friends 🌹especially her children! Did they check the Cops alibi, he saw her that night, it’s happened before. Many solid suspects in this case!
Dr. Grandes voice is always so soothing to hear
Good evening, thank you for the video
Ravishing review Dr R I mean Dr G
Nancy disappeared in my community and I know people who are familiar with some of the characters interviewed for the podcast °Hide and Seek", which I highly recommend. I follow her case and a few others who are missing in my county closely.
Another is the disappearance of 19yr old Logan Shindleman you may find interesting to review.
That's weird, so there seems to be women disappearing around your area? Interesting 🤔
@@tanyaedwards4574 Probably more than we even know, especially with the growing homeless population. I believe we have around 80 missing and or murdered cold cases in our county, men and women. We have a case from 2007 of a mother whose body was found, the case seems to be totally cold. Supposedly Israel Keyes was running around our area at that time. Although we are the Capital of Washington it's relatively small, much of the county is rural and densely forested making it perfect for dumping bodies apparently. We have a new Sheriff who has big plans for these cold cases, we'll see 🤷🏼.
Your innuendos always slay me!
Oh yeah. Dr Grande graciously gratifying guys and girls with good gabbing!
Cop did it? Or maybe Jim 🤔.
I doubt she ran away.
Its pronounced Ten-nine-no Washington. The story behind the name was that it was stop train stop 1090. I was wondering where I was recognized her. I work with someone who knew her and had her missing poster on his cubical. There are still a lot of people hoping for her to be found. But that part of Thurston County is really heavily forested.
My biggest question is why didn't Jim call the police to do a welfare check after he saw her house wide open and her just gone but all her stuff there still? At the very least notify someone to a possible missing person?? 😕
Looking for Mr. Goodbar inspiration. You should always tell someone you are going out and with whom.
Poor Nancy she was just going thru her bored phase . She didn’t deserve to disappear. Most people get away with some reckless behavior. Thanks Doc good limerick too! Mayb Nancy appreciated the humor where ever she may rest hopefully in peace!
There is a different name for that phase. It does rhyme with the word 'bore'.
@@frankreynolds9418 chore?
@@frankreynolds9418 same as the men who were with her then!
@@joan-lisa-smith Nope. That's not the way it works.
@@frankreynolds9418 don’t cast aspersions we all have a skeletons in our closets.
New challenge for Dr. Grande: Create an ending alliteration using the letter Z
It's interesting how men can have "wild dating phases" and if any of them end up dead, it's never implied that they were sluts who caused their own deaths.
Dr Grande, thank you for you tireless content & creative alliterations!
However, a door is never a jar!
Another thought: my sister says a woman would never leave without her purse, therefore she could have been forced to leave, maybe under gunpoint. Also, there were two glasses indicating the presence of another
Starting at 16:01. You weave a why and wherefore so whimsically. 😀
This reminds me of an old movie looking for Mr. Goodbye. Poor woman unfortunate she couldn't find peace in her own company.
Dr. GRANDE You're the best. Just facts and analysis! Gotta love it! You are turning into quite the true crime UA-cam Icon. Try and do some collabs or interviews I'm sure it would help your career alot
Once again a resounding analysis…❤
I know lie detectors aren’t admissible but I’d be interested in knowing if any of the three known men failed the polygraph test 🧐
Well i wonder if the guy who confessed to killing her was given a lie detector? Thats a little weird to confess to murder
One can not dispose of a bony in a fire pit, the fire can not get hot enough, I would have looked under the foundation of the fort he built.
once again the alliteration game in this one was extremely powerful, well done
No, Dr needs to stop it.
Why would she leave her door open if she was going on a drive with someone. Must have thought she’d by out for couple seconds
The ex-husband, Bill could have also left his girls asleep as well. Jealous of her ongoing sexcopades, he could have showed up and told her one or both the girls were hurt in some way, or missing. This would have sent any caring mother into a panic. She would have grabbed her coat and left the house in that same panic not taking the time to make sure the door had closed all the way. The "Let's get going" that was heard by the neighbor would fit with Nancy's concerne for her daughters.
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Great video. TY.
Love your analysis Dr. Grande. As always spot on and humorous.
Thank you, Dr. Grande!!! Wow, you're quite the wordsmith, and I'm here for it!🤣🤟
I agree 💯 with your analysis...🌵
Good morning, Dr. Grande!
Nancy was murdered and her dating habits provided a surfeit of suspects and the three you mentioned were a bit strange.
Apart from someone making a viable confession the case will remain unsolved.
Nice conclusion using the letter "R."
Thanks for sharing.
I think it was Bernard. Maybe they flirted and had a date planned. He did kill another woman.
but do we know the circumstances surrounding that murder? Just because he murdered another woman doesn't necessarily make him the most likely suspect in this case. Statistically most murderers just kill one person, so you could equally make the case that he would be the less likely suspect based on this statistic.
Thank you Dr Grande awesome delivery and lessons for all
"A ruthless meat representative." I know its early in the year. But that might be the quote of 2023...
I personally think Jim is the likeliest of all 3 mentioned suspects
Great analysis, Dr. Grande!
And thank you for the laughter.❤
😂😂😂 The "R's" at the end 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
I believe she was kidnapped while smoking on her porch and killed elsewhere. The ex husband was cleared too quickly.
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How about the cop who was last to see her alive? The cop could've got her to leave quick also
Microwave dinner, cigarettes and two bottles of wine..? Sounds like a single lady to me 😅
An unusual and umfortunate case. It seems like the duality of Nancy’s personality led to her downfall. Thank you for the thoughtful analysis. I so enjoy the humor at the end of the videos!
Really? Is that your polite way of slut shaming a murder victim??? There is no responsibility to befall the victims of evil. You don't have to 'do' something 'bad' or 'wrong' to have evil target you. .....Who are you to judge the life of another person? Shameful behavior, imo. Peace
The reason the door wasn't closed: she was drinking.
Probably smoking outside. She didn't have a cell phone but I bet she had a cordless she didn't want to stray too far from the base. Her date wasn't until the next day and she was bored already drinking alone. .. a neighbor, a Co worker just popping by to take to the store so he can grab another bottle, a cop that worked 2nd shift.
Simply because the apartment didn’t show signs of a struggle doesn’t mean she wasn’t forcefully abducted by someone she didn’t know. She could have answered the door and someone could have grabbed her in the doorway and immediately left with her. Hence the door being found ajar.
Never heard the phrase "romantic roadblocks" before. Hahaha. How do you deliver comedic gold with such a straight face
Very good and very clever analysis!
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