@@rassest I was watching the movies in the theatre and then when I saw this message saying he was dead I broke down and well when I saw this video I decided it should be known that this legend did indeed pass away
Why? Lemme guess -- Rings of Power? This isn't being produced by the same people. You can relax. What if Peter Jackson was putting out another film, would you be just as nervous?
Absolutely. From the look of the Hera image, I'm concerned we're going to get a lot of 21st century social politics interjected into the narrative and character motivations. This would include a healthy dose of "female empowerment" and feminism with some multiculturalism thrown in as well because, after all, every film, TV show, and commercial now has to look like the United Nations cast it.
I don’t think it’s worry over anything other than the state of entertainment nowadays. Everyone wants to push there own narrative and not tell a good story. I personally trust this company to do good on telling a fantastic story but I still understand and relate to the concerns.
Hear me out, but what if they did the Scouring of the Shire in the same animated form as this? Have it start with the Ring getting destroyed/Aragorn’s coronation, and have it cover all the chapters that weren’t in the Jackson movie (with the Scouring of the Shire being the main part). Then close it with the Grey Havens/Sam saying “I’m back.”
Animations free the writers from the bonds of live action, you don't have to worry about CGI, the limit is what your team's artists can do... Personally, I think certain histories should be done in animation because of that
Definitely has a solid anime vibe. I would even say high-end anime. I'm sure it will look amazing. I think the sword will be the one handed down to Theodin. At least I hope so, it's a great call...forward? to LOTR. I agree with your assessment that using Hera as the focal point gives the writers a lot of freedom to flesh out the story while still keeping faithful to canon. I'm cautiously optimistic even given the failures of ROP.
Why does ROP mar the perfection or reputation of this Anime? It's not like they're both from the same studio or something. I just don't understand your logic.
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 I should say Japanimation was highly influenced by the art brut style of Disney and Fleischer, and I would prefer the animation style which existed prior to the late 1940s, based on traditional Japanese woodcuts.
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 I think you might be reading too much into their statement. ROP simply caused folks to be cautious of big studio exploitation of the LOTR ip. Some might be awesome, for sure, but it's reasonable for people to mistrust anything related to WB.
Not me. Peter Jackson is not canon. What Tolkien wrote, that's canon. Peter Jackson made some good adaptations (and some bad ones). Future readers should feel free to apply an entirely different visual vocabulary to adapting Middle Earth in film. I hate that Jackson is now basically being treated as Tolkien's coauthor, and sometimes, being true to Jackson's look is even taking precedence over being true to Tolkien's words. We need to snap out of this! There will be a future and Tolkien's work will be in it, and we need to be open to their making everything look very different from PJ/Weta/New Zealand. It's ok for modern pianists to play Bach and not just follow Glenn Gould's Goldberg Variations, no matter how brilliant that performance was. It was Gould playing Bach, not Bach himself. Imagine if Peter Jackson made such a great version of Macbeth that future audiences got so hung up on that they came to think that future adaptations looked wrong if they didn''t look like Jackson's. That would greatly diminish the depth and power of Macbeth. And I think we are diminishing the power of Tolkien's books by getting so hung up on this one particular performance of them. I never ever want to hear another Middle Earth dwarf sound Scottish. But will I? I bet I will.
@@davidhoracek6758 peter jackson > davidhorace the gender fluid confused. true peter jackson was awesome in loter but complete trash in the hoobits.. rop > the hobbits
@@abdullahalkandari2976 if im right, peter jackson was asked to help with the hobbit pretty late in the progress of filming and had to "save" it to some point. I think, if jackson had as many time for the hobbit, as for LotR, he would have delivered. Oh and anything is better then rop.... even the russian version lol
@@Senthor90 christopher lee - great actor, yet his script was so childish and 0% relevant .. ian mckellen -great actor, yet due to his age, he should not be in the hobbit, his voice is unheard 13 dwarves - or perhaps all dwarves were pure cringe martin freeman in the hobbit was cringe laketown - cringe orcs, goblin, sauron, TROLLS - MEGA cringe
@@boris3973 It's starting to change with series like Invincible and X-Men 97. But the west has to catch up to anime when it comes to taking animation seriously. They've been taking and pushing animation story telling since the late 70's with Gundam.
@@boris3973 That is bs, most anime is childish and not serious in any way, for it to be regarded as a medium only for kids makes perfect sense given most of the content is very childish. Vinland Saga is good though.
@@dinmavric5504 Most of UA-cam is targeted at kids, what are you doing here? Have you no shame, using this children's platform instead of buying newspapers?
Hera is an odd choice for a name, and not from Tolkien, so that's disappointing. There are a lot of Old English female names they could have given her to make sense with names like Theoden, Hama, Wulf, and so on. In Old English, two words are sort of close, and certainly not the inspiration behind Hera (it was probably the goddess Hera). "here" means troop, and survived into Middle English in the same form, and "heoru" means sword, which in Modern English would be *har.
3:04 could this just be shadow/shading instead of the soldier actually having blue? I know sometimes these animations add like a dark greyish blue to make shadows.
The director of the upcoming Rohirrim anime is *Kenji Kamiyama* who has directed most of the *Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex* anime which are great and has prominent female MC (Major Motoko Kusanagi). He is also the original creator of the *Blood* series (Blood-C & Blood+). He directed *Eden of the East* , *Ultraman* Netflix show (all 3 seasons) & *Blade Runner - Black Lotus* too. So, his direction is solid. But now it's up to the writing team to do a good job to keep up with Kenji Kamiyama's anime directing talent.
I am also puzzled by the choice to name the female protagonist Hera, because most people associate this Name with the Greek goddess! Even if Tolkien used that name in connection with the Rohirrim, the scriptwriters should have chosen another name.
I'm more puzzled about the fact that they made her the main character. She didn't have a name in original LOTR lore due to her being so insignificant, so why make her someone so important now. It would be way better to make it about Helm
Thank you so much for sharing the new look and your thoughts. I am beyond excited to sit in a theater come December as well and enjoy watching a story about my favorite LOTR culture.
@@blue-guy333I will point out that the Japanese Manga/Anime story-writers are absolutely fascinated and enamored with the European medieval eras and culture. Most of their inspiration comes from the West.
@@blue-guy333Sounds like you're approaching this with prejudice based on shonen stereotypes instead of having an open mind! Not every show has cutaways to chibi Edward Elric whose otherwise a tragic stoic getting bonked on the head by a tiny elderly character and going 😭 or women characters making sex grunts when mildly surprised, i promise you.
6:19 i really agree with your point here about how animation can add to the lotr content. Especially ever since ralph bakshi proved LOTR is perfect for an animated feature. Novels in general provide an ample base for animators to bring to life tolkiens words. Its just another avenue to enjoy LOTR.
The parts of it that weren't live action (including the rotoscoped animation) did look nice I'd say. He was definitely hindered by the budget of the time.
@@Hulavuta I gotcha, and hey like what you like, but if I'm trying to show someone that LOTR works great in animation (while staying true to the source material and not glossing over everything) I'm not pointing to the bakshi interpretation to prove my point lol. Either way, I was just busting OP's chops, lol.
It's all good, I'm just making conversation. It definitely has got its issues. I'm not sure there is a better example though. The Rankin-Bass Hobbit I do enjoy, though the Return of the King one is barely animated.
Unfortunately, I think it's going to be bad, after all it's 2024 and everything is bad nowdays. But I hope I'm wrong and have a pleasant surprise. Judging by the entertainment media of today's, I'd say it has a 95% chance of being horrible.
@@callnight1441 nope, dune was fine, i still prefer the 1984 but this year's dune was pretty good even with some strange decisions that differs from the books for no reason.
So you mentioned the name Hama is used as the door warden. But i THINK in the movie Haleth is also reused. When Aragorn decides to fight with the Rohirmin he meets a scared young child with a rusty sword. He tells the child "This is a good sword". But before this, he asks the child's name. Its Haleth I believe.
It's hard to say, and someone could probably find some evidence somewhere for or against, but the art style to me looks very similar to that of the Netflix Castlevania series, which I thought had some phenomenal animation and design. If it is the same animation house doing War of the Rohirrim, I'd consider that a positive, personally.
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr As mentioned, the post was about the art and animation. I do have thoughts on the series, both positive and negative, but not going to derail a thread for it.
I personally would want a style looking like Anglo-Saxon art, or since Tolkien said the Rohirrim weren't REALLY Anglo-Saxons of course, have a style akin to Hungarian folk art (since Taliska is actually based on the Ugric languages).
The Castlevania series have been produced by Powerhouse, an American studio. War of the Rohirrim is being animated by Sola, which is a Japanese studio. Based on the limited art we've seen from the film, I'm actually expecting it to look fairly different, if in subtle ways. The Castlevania shows are great, but there's a certain flatness to some of the art at times. The characters and backgrounds in WotR appear to have more detail and dimension. This is typical of a film production vs a series. But there's some clear differences in the art style of the characters too. WotR looks more 'traditional' in a sense (not surprising from a Japanese studio), yet seeing that approach being used to adapt the PJ film look is quite intersting and gives it a unique feel that's hard to place. Vinland Saga might be the closest I can think of, but that may just be down to the Viking era setting. I'm also seeing the slightest hint of Ghibli in there, something about Hera looks very 'Ghibli Heroine' to me. With the money of the LOTR franchise behind it, I would certainly expect this to have very high animation fidelity and impressive production values. It's quite fascinating seeing a western film studio collaborate with a Japanese anime studio on a western franchise this big. I don't think it's ever been done before for a feature film.
True. Even more, the "heart" is formed by two horses booping noses, while Hera's sword features stylized birds, or at least wings. Also an eagle's head on the pommel. However, I'm 80% sure I've seen that sword before. Can't be bothered to go through the whole extended trilogy though, just to make a point. Or maybe it just reminds me of a sword from a completely different franchise. Oh well...
@@deanzaZZR is there any reason to do such a thing though? (replacing the guard, as well as making a lighter and shorter blade just because shield maiden) because, as far as I'm aware, having a shorter blade makes it far less efficient in combat when facing an opponent with a regular blade. Like bringing a letter opener to a zweihander fight
@@shoulderpyro because a woman's physique is different from a man's? the power to swing the blade, the grip's strength, the comparison between the warrior's height and the sword's length, which is affect the lethality of the attack. even the speed. so in my opinion, the blade that a female warrior would use logically would be different from what a male warrior uses. i read a book about samurai years ago. a girl disguised herself as a man to get revenge and joined a troop. but later her leader found out about her gender. in short, the leader wants to help her revenge. he then forged a lighter, shorter sword for her because she HURT herself when she trained with regular sword usually used by her male companions. but because the lighter and shorter sword would have much lesser strength, her leader said she can cover it with her speed and accuration. proved to be as deadly.
@@tama_ochi and yet when looking at sparring matches today, both blades are of equal length and weight. Yes, women are typically weaker, but a lot of people seem to be under the impression swords are big heavy clunky things. Rohirric blades seem to be akin to one handed arming swords. There's literally zero reason to shorten Hera's blade more than it already is - you'd end up with a glorified dagger. So while I agree with your physique point, do keep in mind the differences between cultures and weapons overall. And then a funny little actual history, and not just a story like your samurai; just because they were physically weaker, noble women were not deterred in the slightest from joining crusades in full plate. As one scholar put it "They fought like men and were indistinguishable until slain and stripped of their armour" In the end, it all heavily relies on training. If you're at a natural disadvantage you just have to train more. Hera is of noble birth, she'd have gotten plenty of training. Likely even more than the average regular rohirric soldier - she'll be fine c:
Another fun fact is that in The Two Towers movie, Haleth is the son of Hama :) Also, based on how the blue 'falls' on that man in the background in that shot of Hera, it seems like some shading over the white furs, not actual blue color. All in all, I like what I'm seeing in terms of drawing style. I'm pumped :D
this be another nail in the coffin for LOTR legacy after ROP these modern writers just cant help themselves injecting "modern" ideas into another beloved franchise
In the movie, Haleth is also "son of Hama", The Doorwarden. Aragorn asks to look at/hold his sword and tells him before the Battle of the Helm's Deep/Hornburg, "There is always hope".
I hope the story is true and more appropriate to the source material. Im getting frustrated with everything i love recently just becoming corrupted. And my inability to do anything but watch it turn into something i cant be excited for anymore.
Do not hate-watch things, man, it's bad for your soul. Haven't seen a single scene from ROP and am still enjoying Middle-Earth almost on the daily. This isn't a franchise where you have to settle for scraps, there is so much content, you can even start learning an Elvish language or two, that'd take you at least a thousand hours (I know because I'm doing it). You could also go for the works that inspired Tolkien, exploring the rich source material rather than the forced derivatives. Cheers.
@@Marcotonio these are the first encouraging words ive heard in a while. I've read most of Tolkiens works a dozen times over and am probably just being a fanboy. But it's just sad to see. But it's good to see people trying to help bring each other up rather then knock it down
@@deusvault5732 It can be rough when a franchise you care about is ran into the ground for profit; I was a completionist when it came to the band Gorillaz, big fan since the first album in 2001. These past few years I had to accept that the band has simply forgotten what made it good and stop forcing myself to listen to weak albums, trying to find scattered good pieces amidst the bad majority. And people struggling to let go are often the source of negativity, either to themselves (by constantly complaining but still consuming) or to others (by defending it tooth and nail from any criticism). Both stages of grief, now that I think about it. Once you realize you'd need 100 lifespans to consume all the worthwhile content out there, this becomes mostly trivial. And while you're distracted, BAM, things like this anime movie come out as an unexpected treat, that I will have to try and fit into my schedule, rather than thirst over. :)
Don't watch these corrupt and greedy things then. In this age, we not only pay for things with our money, but with our attention. Watching amazon's series, whether you like or dislike the actual thing, is a win for them
If im being honest animation dosent make me even wanna watch it…. I know thats kind of a hating move…but it just dosent do anything for me at all…. Should the movie be good thats gonna be amazing! And i can’t judge it before its out…. But Seeing this makes me hella sad
@@michaels7325 i ain't gonna watch it in the theaters AT ALL! Am just gonna see the audience reveiws (not the reviews from those sold trash critics) and see what they cooked for this movie
My problem with all the Lord of the Rings projects is they simply can't let go of the events of the Lord of the Rings. From the Hobbit Even to Rings of Power everything is just a "member dis" moment rather than letting the stories be their own thing. Even the Tolkien movie got this wrong where it makes so many connections to Lord of the Rings rather than the SilmarIlion which Tolkiens life and experiences shaped more of than Lord of the Rings. The latter was just a sequel to The Hobbit a story he wrote for his kids.
I really don't like the looks of this. Why use an asian cartoon style on this? Wouldn't western animation be more appropriate? My biggest issue with this is the design of women. You can see that the men have certain animation-twisted features, but their proportions are mostly realistic. But Hera? She looks like from a different cartoon. Her eyes are several times bigger than eyes of men while her nose is super-tiny and pointy, in a cliche anime way (while the noses of the men are more defined).
Exactly!!!!! Tolkien is as a proud European and based his tales on his British homeland. This is western fantasy not Asian anime. It’s such a hideous art style.
@@LostHorizons0 I wouldn't say it's hideous and it needs to be "European". My issue with anime is more that it has established connections to Japanese cultures and it clearly carries so visual stereotypes. This style simply fits the over-the-top and whimsical anime stories, but not something like Lord of the Rings. In the end I could get over all of it, if they didn't use the cliche anime-doll design of women.
I love anime, that is definitely Theoden's sword, and I started worrying about this when it seemed the main character is going to be Hera. Hope it doesn't go all canon breaking, dei, Tolkien rolling in his grave spinning like a drill bit. I REALLY hope this is good as anime is an ideal form to do great Tolkien stories on screen. You could do any of his stories, Gondolin, Hurin, Beren, creation of the trees, any and all of it to spec, with anime. I've been burned so many times though.
I think it will be an amazing movie. ❤The animation seems beautiful and I LOVE the details from the trilogy. The only thing that I think is not good, is Héra's name. I mean, it's a Hellenic name. It's strange to give a Greek name to a Middle-Earth character. They could just create a new name for her. And why her hair is red? Anyway, I am waiting for the movie and I believe it will not disappoint me ❤🙏
I agree that the name "Hera" is a somewhat unfortunate choice. But what's wrong with red hair?? It might have been chosen un order to make the look this character different from Eowyn.
لا اعتقد انها هيرا لما ذا اشعر انها اثينه. لا احب الكذب. هيه مجرد اداه لظم وعيها لتلك الشخصيه واندماجها به فقط وتظيع هوية الفتات في هيرا. نحنو لسنا قطع غيار تبن. مجرد افلام دمويه. لقتل البشر.
I'm personally nervous about these images. I have not watched much anime, but these images look so much like Japanese anime that I when I imagine them moving I expect to hear Japanese. I just don't think this type of animation style is a good pick for a more "Western European" story. I would have chosen a more western animation style to match.
Animation is not why I it won't do well but more cause they will "update" and "make for modern times" the story taking Far far from how Tolkien would have done it
it gets worse....it sounds like they are getting ready to twist Tolkien's work all over again...this was one of the telling signs...of naming a character from a Greek Goddess...where it doesn't fit.
I don't know how I feel about calling Wolf a villain. I never saw him as a "bad" guy seeing as how Helm killed his father just because he wanted their kids to get married.
I think that New Line Cinema have asked for an unreasonable Venn Diagram for success between LotR fans and anime fans. I would go so far as to say that most LotR fans will be taken aback by an anime style applied to Arda. I think it will flop as a result.
We know the name of Helm's successor: Fréaláf Hildeson. Hild was Helm's sister and Fréaláf was her son. When Helm's sons Haleth and Háma perished, Fréaláf Hildeson became the new heir of the House of Eorl and thus the lawful King of the Mark after Helm's death. Helm was succeeded by his sister's son and not by his daughter's son. But his unnamed daughter was mentioned in Appendix A to "The Lord of the Rings". "The War of the Rohirrim" creates a film mix of Helm's sister Hild and Helm's unnamed daughter as a newly invented daughter named Hera, Héra or Hēra. But these forms are not entirely consistent with Old English as used in "The Lord of the Rings" while all other Rohanese names are. Tolkien wouldn't have named a female character of Rohan "Hera". It's rather a Greek than an Anglo-Saxon name. Still, it's possible for this film character Hera to take the functions not just of Helm's sister and daughter but also of Helm's nephew and successor, Fréaláf Hildeson. Hera could become the hero, so to say. As later King Théoden's sword was named Herugrim, it would make some sense for a Hera to be its first owner.
Gonna be a bait and switch not even gonna be about helm hammer hand gonna be about his daughter just another bait and switch movie about a character that never existed
I'm always happy to have more content when it comes to Middle Earth. That being said, I can't think of a more boring story then this. I watch Lord of the rings for the fantasy aspect. I can watch a 100 movies with humans fighting humans on horseback. If they are going to do animated, uh... 1st age.. hello??? War of wrath?
I think it looks OK but I am getting strong Netflix anime vibes (like Castlevania) which is, as I said, OK, but a tad overdone. I guess it meets my expectations but I'm left underwhelmed as a result. I will wait for more info about it, but I'm sure I'll see it upon release :)
Hera is a Greek name, it doesn't match the Anglo-Dainish theme of Rohan. A variation on Frigg or Frig would have been a far better match. I'm worried about what I'm hearing about this story getting "current day'd"
I feel a lot of people were put off because, people said although i wouldn’t know this at all, the “nerd” was sponsored by amazon and so the reviews were positive
I think I'm in the minority in not looking forward to an animated film. I might be excited to watch it on a Saturday morning (reference to old school Saturday morning cartoons) but not excited to pay to see it in theaters. But to all those that appreciate and enjoy animation I hope you love it and I hope they do the story justice!
My only concern is having Hèra as the protagonist. As one of the main characters, this would make sense but if the movie is built around her I think that would be a mistake.
I mean that would take ages to make. People often dont realize how time consuming detailed animation like this is. For example the average animated movie from studio ghibli take 2-3 years to produce, and those usually have a runtime of 2 hours. Now imagine how long even a shortend and simplified Lord of the Rings would take to make, even at "only" 6 hours long you look at 6-9 years, not to mention if they would got for the full 12 hours :D. So long story short, i highly doubt it will happen.
@@bloodieown ok you’re taking my statement out of context. I’m not debating whether ai would be used in a project like that. I’m debating whether they will make an animated version of the movies. And I highly doubt they will
I heard war of the rohirrom is going to be another bait and switch or fan faction . It’s all going to be about hammerhands daughter . Who I think is mentioned on like 1 page and doesn’t have a name .
One thing I want to point out, I think the person standing behind Hera isn't wearing blue and white, rather it's just white and the bluish hues come from the shadows.
Please for the love of god don’t let them throw a chick in it and make them lame. Please let them focus on the stories revolving Helm and the fight with Dunlend. Please don’t switch everything out that is great about this story and these characters just to insert a strong independent woman that don’t need no man. Please if they make Hera some type of leading character let her walk the path of Eowyn, not those of Guyladriel or Mae Rey Sue Skywalker. It would be such a shame if all this work was put in just for the film to follow the same boring tropes that have plagued modern media for the last 10 years.
I love the fact that they are make a movie about the rohirrim it I find anime in general not a great meadow for stories that’s just my personal opinion
Man I am underwhelmed. They said it was not going to be like anything seen before... but it looks pretty damned generic to me. I hope I'm wrong, I hope it turns out really well... and it had better not end up being woke..but I am getting that vibe from this "Hera" character in the prior interview; I wouldn't be surprised.
As for myself, I agree they should have gone retro instead of the quasi anime art style, but I would have loved to see it done in the Rankin Bass design 😏
Yes, animae is too common, and it's a Japanese style. I would have liked a completely new look that sets the film apart in appearance from other animated films. I remember when drawing the film Sleeping Beauty back in the 50's, Disney's animators referred to tapestries from the Middle Ages for their style. They wanted the film to look distinctly Medieval, and that's exactly what they accomplished. The film is beautiful, but most importantly, it doesn't look like any other film before or after it. That's what I wanted for this film.
@@L1623VP To me, Sleeping Beauty looks like all Disney movies, except with a tint of medieval art. Just like Mulan looks like every Disney movie, except with a hint of traditional Asian art. If you look at the concept art and compare it to the final product, the change is stark. In the same vein, this anime looks pretty neat, but it does derive a lot from other of the same genre. I don't know how to make it look original, but Disney isn't any better in terms of uniqueness.
@@Marcotonio Watch the making of video for Sleeping Beauty. It's probably on UA-cam somewhere. It was an extra on the anniversary DVD I bought years ago. You'll see the striking difference to other Disney films when they put the backgrounds for the scenes of Sleeping Beauty against the Medieval tapestries. The animators did a fantastic job emulating that style. The funny thing is that I've loved the look of that film for decades and never knew exactly why until I saw the reasoning behind the animators' deliberate choice and style. I could tell it was distinctly different even back then without knowing why.
Rohan has a tradition of shield maidens. its the reason why Eowyn was such a good fighter. Having this film be a "girlboss film" would make total in-univers sense
Dude I really don’t care about anything Rings Of Power related and I think you’d be better off not even covering it. It has much as much to do with Tolkien as Harry Potter.
Regarding the art style for this movie. It doesnt justified middle earth. Sure it's nice to have designs from peter jackson and convert it in anime form, but the overall feel is just too flat. It doesn't carry the feeling peter jackson. One probable animation is style that i think appropriate for world of middle earth is from anime movie called Lodoss of Record war. That anime does have semblance to LoTR and has a good feeling of mystery which for me is what the middle earth overly feel.
If it has amazing animation like Vinland Saga I can see it definitely working. Also hoping the writing is good because we definitely need some good LOTR content. Hera being the protagonist could work with again….good writing.
As an animation artist and anime enjoyer, this is very high-end, high-budget animation. Invoking design cues from Miyazaki/Ghibli in level of ornate and detail-centric background and clothing designs, but with a slightly more photorealistic/mature anatomy for the character designs- which makes sense for an audience used to similar juggernauts in grimdark settings like Castlevania for their animation-for-grownups. I'm very excited about the level of mastery and craft demonstrated in these stills alone. My interest went from 4% to 100%.
I'm tentatively excited about this. However, I'm annoyed the Haradrim are featured in this and concerned that Boyens and Walsh are up to their own tricks/distortions of the text for the sake of drama. The story of Helm Hammerhand could easily be told without bringing in the Mumakil and Haradrim.
The animation studio is Sola Digital arts. It's a newer studio with a few projects. If it's working with Production I.G (lots of sports and action experience) then it'll be really good. Will depend on whose doing the directing.
Love it! Super excited! As far as the audience perspective, in LOTR Tolkien usually writes from the least knowledgeable character’s perspective so it would be very interesting to see line with his writing if we see almost everything through Hera’s “eyes” in this story. I think that would show some true attention to detail and would make many very happy fans.
Rest in peace king Theoden. you will be missed :(
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@@rassest I was watching the movies in the theatre and then when I saw this message saying he was dead I broke down and well when I saw this video I decided it should be known that this legend did indeed pass away
I'm not worried at all about animation, but, I'm completely worried about the narrative/overall story and interpretation of the characters.
Why? Lemme guess -- Rings of Power? This isn't being produced by the same people. You can relax. What if Peter Jackson was putting out another film, would you be just as nervous?
Absolutely. From the look of the Hera image, I'm concerned we're going to get a lot of 21st century social politics interjected into the narrative and character motivations. This would include a healthy dose of "female empowerment" and feminism with some multiculturalism thrown in as well because, after all, every film, TV show, and commercial now has to look like the United Nations cast it.
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 After the way the Hobbit films came out absolutely.
People seem to have forgotten how truly awful the hobbit movies were
I don’t think it’s worry over anything other than the state of entertainment nowadays. Everyone wants to push there own narrative and not tell a good story. I personally trust this company to do good on telling a fantastic story but I still understand and relate to the concerns.
Hear me out, but what if they did the Scouring of the Shire in the same animated form as this? Have it start with the Ring getting destroyed/Aragorn’s coronation, and have it cover all the chapters that weren’t in the Jackson movie (with the Scouring of the Shire being the main part). Then close it with the Grey Havens/Sam saying “I’m back.”
But that's a thousand years after this
Only if Elijah Wood and the other Hobbits reprise their roles voice wise haha
This would actually be amazing. I think they’ll wait to see how successful this style is with the fans. And then take the plunge to making many more.
@@Earendil_1510I’ve been hoping for that too. I’ve been wanting to watch even a remake of lotr like this for so long. Like a whole series.
@@orrointhewise87 I don't think Merry will be able to pull off his young voice, considering how rumbly Dominic sounds these days.
Animations free the writers from the bonds of live action, you don't have to worry about CGI, the limit is what your team's artists can do... Personally, I think certain histories should be done in animation because of that
As long as they aren't done by amazon i would give it a chance
Animation has far too long been underestimated, ignored and treated as lesser. Looking forward to this film for sure.
I think some things in the silmarils book would be perfect and books about the 1st age would be really cool as animated
To bad it's the wrong choice in animation
Definitely has a solid anime vibe. I would even say high-end anime. I'm sure it will look amazing. I think the sword will be the one handed down to Theodin. At least I hope so, it's a great call...forward? to LOTR. I agree with your assessment that using Hera as the focal point gives the writers a lot of freedom to flesh out the story while still keeping faithful to canon. I'm cautiously optimistic even given the failures of ROP.
Why does ROP mar the perfection or reputation of this Anime? It's not like they're both from the same studio or something. I just don't understand your logic.
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 I should say Japanimation was highly influenced by the art brut style of Disney and Fleischer, and I would prefer the animation style which existed prior to the late 1940s, based on traditional Japanese woodcuts.
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 I think you might be reading too much into their statement. ROP simply caused folks to be cautious of big studio exploitation of the LOTR ip. Some might be awesome, for sure, but it's reasonable for people to mistrust anything related to WB.
@@matthewmcdevitt6792 because ROP is a sign of where the winds are blowing in modern Hollywood.
rop > the hobbit
3:12 I dont think thats a color choice for the outfit. Think it's just shadow/shading of the soldier in the background.
I was going to say it looks green to me, just in the shadows or at night.
Yes, the blue is just the shadowed white.
I came here to make the same comment.
I really like that they pulled designs from Peter Jackson's movies. The detail, prop and wardrobe departments did so well. :D
Not me. Peter Jackson is not canon. What Tolkien wrote, that's canon. Peter Jackson made some good adaptations (and some bad ones). Future readers should feel free to apply an entirely different visual vocabulary to adapting Middle Earth in film. I hate that Jackson is now basically being treated as Tolkien's coauthor, and sometimes, being true to Jackson's look is even taking precedence over being true to Tolkien's words. We need to snap out of this! There will be a future and Tolkien's work will be in it, and we need to be open to their making everything look very different from PJ/Weta/New Zealand. It's ok for modern pianists to play Bach and not just follow Glenn Gould's Goldberg Variations, no matter how brilliant that performance was. It was Gould playing Bach, not Bach himself. Imagine if Peter Jackson made such a great version of Macbeth that future audiences got so hung up on that they came to think that future adaptations looked wrong if they didn''t look like Jackson's. That would greatly diminish the depth and power of Macbeth. And I think we are diminishing the power of Tolkien's books by getting so hung up on this one particular performance of them. I never ever want to hear another Middle Earth dwarf sound Scottish. But will I? I bet I will.
@@davidhoracek6758 peter jackson > davidhorace the gender fluid confused.
true peter jackson was awesome in loter but complete trash in the hoobits..
rop > the hobbits
@@abdullahalkandari2976 if im right, peter jackson was asked to help with the hobbit pretty late in the progress of filming and had to "save" it to some point. I think, if jackson had as many time for the hobbit, as for LotR, he would have delivered.
Oh and anything is better then rop.... even the russian version lol
@@Senthor90 christopher lee - great actor, yet his script was so childish and 0% relevant ..
ian mckellen -great actor, yet due to his age, he should not be in the hobbit, his voice is unheard
13 dwarves - or perhaps all dwarves were pure cringe
martin freeman in the hobbit was cringe
laketown - cringe
orcs, goblin, sauron, TROLLS - MEGA cringe
Plus, it would save tons of pre-production time just to have a bunch of reference art for designing.
Brilliant short segment on the perception of animation. Such a great medium of filmmaking that is often seen incorrectly as being only for kids
That is because most western animation actually is for kids, or "families". Which is unfortunate.
It's so weird when anime has been a global phenomenon for at least 30 years now.
@@boris3973 It's starting to change with series like Invincible and X-Men 97. But the west has to catch up to anime when it comes to taking animation seriously. They've been taking and pushing animation story telling since the late 70's with Gundam.
@@boris3973 That is bs, most anime is childish and not serious in any way, for it to be regarded as a medium only for kids makes perfect sense given most of the content is very childish. Vinland Saga is good though.
@@dinmavric5504 Most of UA-cam is targeted at kids, what are you doing here? Have you no shame, using this children's platform instead of buying newspapers?
Not a big fan of the anime style tbh but hope is good enough I can look past it
I’m excited to see the style.
Me either. Doesn’t really to fit
Hera is an odd choice for a name, and not from Tolkien, so that's disappointing. There are a lot of Old English female names they could have given her to make sense with names like Theoden, Hama, Wulf, and so on. In Old English, two words are sort of close, and certainly not the inspiration behind Hera (it was probably the goddess Hera). "here" means troop, and survived into Middle English in the same form, and "heoru" means sword, which in Modern English would be *har.
3:04 could this just be shadow/shading instead of the soldier actually having blue? I know sometimes these animations add like a dark greyish blue to make shadows.
That was my thought as well.
The dress is golden and white, not black and blue, people!!
The director of the upcoming Rohirrim anime is *Kenji Kamiyama* who has directed most of the *Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex* anime which are great and has prominent female MC (Major Motoko Kusanagi). He is also the original creator of the *Blood* series (Blood-C & Blood+). He directed *Eden of the East* , *Ultraman* Netflix show (all 3 seasons) & *Blade Runner - Black Lotus* too.
So, his direction is solid. But now it's up to the writing team to do a good job to keep up with Kenji Kamiyama's anime directing talent.
0:46 That’s a good start. Reminds me of the much beloved Record of Lodoss War & such Japanese fantasy anime
Looks good but don’t like the name Hera. It’s a Greek god but the Rohirrim are inspired by Anglo-Saxons. Plenty of more suitable names to pick from
I am also puzzled by the choice to name the female protagonist Hera, because most people associate this Name with the Greek goddess! Even if Tolkien used that name in connection with the Rohirrim, the scriptwriters should have chosen another name.
I'm more puzzled about the fact that they made her the main character. She didn't have a name in original LOTR lore due to her being so insignificant, so why make her someone so important now. It would be way better to make it about Helm
Thank you so much for sharing the new look and your thoughts. I am beyond excited to sit in a theater come December as well and enjoy watching a story about my favorite LOTR culture.
Am I the only one getting an uncanny valley type vibe with something SO middle earth looking SO traditionally Japanese styled?... just me...
I dont like the idea at all just imagining lotr characters with anime voice acting makes me want to die
@@blue-guy333 I totally agree. I'm feeling a major style clash and I don't like it.
@@blue-guy333I will point out that the Japanese Manga/Anime story-writers are absolutely fascinated and enamored with the European medieval eras and culture. Most of their inspiration comes from the West.
Yeah. I hate it
@@blue-guy333Sounds like you're approaching this with prejudice based on shonen stereotypes instead of having an open mind!
Not every show has cutaways to chibi Edward Elric whose otherwise a tragic stoic getting bonked on the head by a tiny elderly character and going 😭 or women characters making sex grunts when mildly surprised, i promise you.
6:19 i really agree with your point here about how animation can add to the lotr content. Especially ever since ralph bakshi proved LOTR is perfect for an animated feature.
Novels in general provide an ample base for animators to bring to life tolkiens words. Its just another avenue to enjoy LOTR.
Ralph Bakshi as the proof? lol
The parts of it that weren't live action (including the rotoscoped animation) did look nice I'd say. He was definitely hindered by the budget of the time.
@@Hulavuta I gotcha, and hey like what you like, but if I'm trying to show someone that LOTR works great in animation (while staying true to the source material and not glossing over everything) I'm not pointing to the bakshi interpretation to prove my point lol.
Either way, I was just busting OP's chops, lol.
It's all good, I'm just making conversation. It definitely has got its issues. I'm not sure there is a better example though. The Rankin-Bass Hobbit I do enjoy, though the Return of the King one is barely animated.
Bakshis movie was dope. Underrated af
Unfortunately, I think it's going to be bad, after all it's 2024 and everything is bad nowdays. But I hope I'm wrong and have a pleasant surprise. Judging by the entertainment media of today's, I'd say it has a 95% chance of being horrible.
There is a lot of garbage being made and released this year.
@@bighand1530 hope this is not another of those
@@vampirecount3880 I hear ya.
would you consider "dune" a bad movie adaptation?
@@callnight1441 nope, dune was fine, i still prefer the 1984 but this year's dune was pretty good even with some strange decisions that differs from the books for no reason.
Something different in format but it comes from creators with a proven track record. I’m looking forward to it. I’ll even go watch it in the cinema!
Ive never been a big fan of anime, but if its LOTR, Im willing to try. Heres hoping its good!
Looks very anime. Not sure how I feel about that.
God - why did you have to remind us the ROP S2 was coming up? What garbage. WOTR looks excellent, though!
So you mentioned the name Hama is used as the door warden. But i THINK in the movie Haleth is also reused. When Aragorn decides to fight with the Rohirmin he meets a scared young child with a rusty sword. He tells the child "This is a good sword". But before this, he asks the child's name. Its Haleth I believe.
RoP- No thanks.
War of the Rohirrim? I can only hope they don't screw that one up, too?...
Forgive me, but when fans like me said we would like any lotr history brought to the screen, i dont think we meant anime..
It's hard to say, and someone could probably find some evidence somewhere for or against, but the art style to me looks very similar to that of the Netflix Castlevania series, which I thought had some phenomenal animation and design. If it is the same animation house doing War of the Rohirrim, I'd consider that a positive, personally.
i thought it was boring af
@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr you might find the story boring the but the art and animation is pretty sweet
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr As mentioned, the post was about the art and animation. I do have thoughts on the series, both positive and negative, but not going to derail a thread for it.
I personally would want a style looking like Anglo-Saxon art, or since Tolkien said the Rohirrim weren't REALLY Anglo-Saxons of course, have a style akin to Hungarian folk art (since Taliska is actually based on the Ugric languages).
The Castlevania series have been produced by Powerhouse, an American studio. War of the Rohirrim is being animated by Sola, which is a Japanese studio. Based on the limited art we've seen from the film, I'm actually expecting it to look fairly different, if in subtle ways. The Castlevania shows are great, but there's a certain flatness to some of the art at times.
The characters and backgrounds in WotR appear to have more detail and dimension. This is typical of a film production vs a series. But there's some clear differences in the art style of the characters too. WotR looks more 'traditional' in a sense (not surprising from a Japanese studio), yet seeing that approach being used to adapt the PJ film look is quite intersting and gives it a unique feel that's hard to place. Vinland Saga might be the closest I can think of, but that may just be down to the Viking era setting. I'm also seeing the slightest hint of Ghibli in there, something about Hera looks very 'Ghibli Heroine' to me.
With the money of the LOTR franchise behind it, I would certainly expect this to have very high animation fidelity and impressive production values. It's quite fascinating seeing a western film studio collaborate with a Japanese anime studio on a western franchise this big. I don't think it's ever been done before for a feature film.
I think the blade is Hera's own blade. Theoden's blade has a "heart" within the guard, whereas Hera has a solid guard
True. Even more, the "heart" is formed by two horses booping noses, while Hera's sword features stylized birds, or at least wings. Also an eagle's head on the pommel.
However, I'm 80% sure I've seen that sword before. Can't be bothered to go through the whole extended trilogy though, just to make a point. Or maybe it just reminds me of a sword from a completely different franchise. Oh well...
Guards can be replaced. Technically a "sword maiden's" sword would likely be shorter and lighter than one made for a man.
@@deanzaZZR is there any reason to do such a thing though? (replacing the guard, as well as making a lighter and shorter blade just because shield maiden)
because, as far as I'm aware, having a shorter blade makes it far less efficient in combat when facing an opponent with a regular blade. Like bringing a letter opener to a zweihander fight
@@shoulderpyro because a woman's physique is different from a man's? the power to swing the blade, the grip's strength, the comparison between the warrior's height and the sword's length, which is affect the lethality of the attack. even the speed.
so in my opinion, the blade that a female warrior would use logically would be different from what a male warrior uses.
i read a book about samurai years ago. a girl disguised herself as a man to get revenge and joined a troop. but later her leader found out about her gender.
in short, the leader wants to help her revenge. he then forged a lighter, shorter sword for her because she HURT herself when she trained with regular sword usually used by her male companions.
but because the lighter and shorter sword would have much lesser strength, her leader said she can cover it with her speed and accuration. proved to be as deadly.
@@tama_ochi and yet when looking at sparring matches today, both blades are of equal length and weight. Yes, women are typically weaker, but a lot of people seem to be under the impression swords are big heavy clunky things.
Rohirric blades seem to be akin to one handed arming swords. There's literally zero reason to shorten Hera's blade more than it already is - you'd end up with a glorified dagger.
So while I agree with your physique point, do keep in mind the differences between cultures and weapons overall. And then a funny little actual history, and not just a story like your samurai; just because they were physically weaker, noble women were not deterred in the slightest from joining crusades in full plate. As one scholar put it "They fought like men and were indistinguishable until slain and stripped of their armour"
In the end, it all heavily relies on training. If you're at a natural disadvantage you just have to train more. Hera is of noble birth, she'd have gotten plenty of training. Likely even more than the average regular rohirric soldier - she'll be fine c:
Another fun fact is that in The Two Towers movie, Haleth is the son of Hama :)
Also, based on how the blue 'falls' on that man in the background in that shot of Hera, it seems like some shading over the white furs, not actual blue color.
All in all, I like what I'm seeing in terms of drawing style. I'm pumped :D
this be another nail in the coffin for LOTR legacy after ROP
these modern writers just cant help themselves injecting "modern" ideas into another beloved franchise
In the movie, Haleth is also "son of Hama", The Doorwarden. Aragorn asks to look at/hold his sword and tells him before the Battle of the Helm's Deep/Hornburg, "There is always hope".
... and like with everything western media does nowadays its a female hero, main character again. And again its a mary sue...
boring!
woke propaganda!
This isn’t western.
I dislike the anime style of animation but not as much as I despise the Pixar or Disney styles. I'll wait for it to be on a streaming service.
I hope the story is true and more appropriate to the source material. Im getting frustrated with everything i love recently just becoming corrupted. And my inability to do anything but watch it turn into something i cant be excited for anymore.
Do not hate-watch things, man, it's bad for your soul. Haven't seen a single scene from ROP and am still enjoying Middle-Earth almost on the daily.
This isn't a franchise where you have to settle for scraps, there is so much content, you can even start learning an Elvish language or two, that'd take you at least a thousand hours (I know because I'm doing it).
You could also go for the works that inspired Tolkien, exploring the rich source material rather than the forced derivatives.
Cheers.
@@Marcotonio these are the first encouraging words ive heard in a while. I've read most of Tolkiens works a dozen times over and am probably just being a fanboy. But it's just sad to see. But it's good to see people trying to help bring each other up rather then knock it down
@@deusvault5732 It can be rough when a franchise you care about is ran into the ground for profit; I was a completionist when it came to the band Gorillaz, big fan since the first album in 2001. These past few years I had to accept that the band has simply forgotten what made it good and stop forcing myself to listen to weak albums, trying to find scattered good pieces amidst the bad majority.
And people struggling to let go are often the source of negativity, either to themselves (by constantly complaining but still consuming) or to others (by defending it tooth and nail from any criticism). Both stages of grief, now that I think about it.
Once you realize you'd need 100 lifespans to consume all the worthwhile content out there, this becomes mostly trivial. And while you're distracted, BAM, things like this anime movie come out as an unexpected treat, that I will have to try and fit into my schedule, rather than thirst over. :)
Don't watch these corrupt and greedy things then. In this age, we not only pay for things with our money, but with our attention. Watching amazon's series, whether you like or dislike the actual thing, is a win for them
The blue depicts in my humble opinion shadow, not a colour...
If im being honest animation dosent make me even wanna watch it…. I know thats kind of a hating move…but it just dosent do anything for me at all…. Should the movie be good thats gonna be amazing! And i can’t judge it before its out…. But Seeing this makes me hella sad
Absolutely true. Seeing them make an irrelevant and unnamed female character as the protagonist over the likes of Helm Hammerhand
@@STRAWHAT-oc4koyeaaaaa….. but its Hollywood soooooo you know 😂
@@STRAWHAT-oc4ko I get Nerd is paid for this stuff but his cope session about that makes me want to watch it even less than the animation style.
@@michaels7325 i ain't gonna watch it in the theaters AT ALL! Am just gonna see the audience reveiws (not the reviews from those sold trash critics) and see what they cooked for this movie
Hey art is subjective, if a style works for you great if not that's okay too, nothing hateful about it just preference.
You gotta know they are gonna give “Hera” the storyline of Frealof.
Yeah, instead of giving the movie to Helm Hammerhands, who is literally if testosterone was a person.😤
wouldn't be surprised if that happens
and why would that be bad?
@@callnight1441 because it's not in the story. Frealof is the important character. "Hera" is a footnote.
@@callnight1441 because that's not her part
My problem with all the Lord of the Rings projects is they simply can't let go of the events of the Lord of the Rings. From the Hobbit Even to Rings of Power everything is just a "member dis" moment rather than letting the stories be their own thing. Even the Tolkien movie got this wrong where it makes so many connections to Lord of the Rings rather than the SilmarIlion which Tolkiens life and experiences shaped more of than Lord of the Rings. The latter was just a sequel to The Hobbit a story he wrote for his kids.
I'm trepidatious of the medium being used. I feel like there is a grit and realism to Middle Earth that anime can't capture.
I treat everything created after the LOTR movies as fanfic. Hobbit is really on the fence.
I hoped for the Art Style we see in 0:01 but I am ok with the anime style too
Me too
I really don't like the looks of this. Why use an asian cartoon style on this? Wouldn't western animation be more appropriate?
My biggest issue with this is the design of women. You can see that the men have certain animation-twisted features, but their proportions are mostly realistic. But Hera? She looks like from a different cartoon. Her eyes are several times bigger than eyes of men while her nose is super-tiny and pointy, in a cliche anime way (while the noses of the men are more defined).
Exactly!!!!! Tolkien is as a proud European and based his tales on his British homeland. This is western fantasy not Asian anime.
It’s such a hideous art style.
@@LostHorizons0 I wouldn't say it's hideous and it needs to be "European". My issue with anime is more that it has established connections to Japanese cultures and it clearly carries so visual stereotypes. This style simply fits the over-the-top and whimsical anime stories, but not something like Lord of the Rings. In the end I could get over all of it, if they didn't use the cliche anime-doll design of women.
@@BoroMirraCz I think it’s ugly and it all looks the same and does not fit the content of the story / world at all.
I love anime, that is definitely Theoden's sword, and I started worrying about this when it seemed the main character is going to be Hera. Hope it doesn't go all canon breaking, dei, Tolkien rolling in his grave spinning like a drill bit. I REALLY hope this is good as anime is an ideal form to do great Tolkien stories on screen. You could do any of his stories, Gondolin, Hurin, Beren, creation of the trees, any and all of it to spec, with anime. I've been burned so many times though.
I don't think that's a blue and white color scheme but shadows.
I like how the animation is similar to Studio Ghibli.
I don’t consider rings of power as being from LOTR’s
100%
I think it will be an amazing movie. ❤The animation seems beautiful and I LOVE the details from the trilogy. The only thing that I think is not good, is Héra's name. I mean, it's a Hellenic name. It's strange to give a Greek name to a Middle-Earth character. They could just create a new name for her. And why her hair is red? Anyway, I am waiting for the movie and I believe it will not disappoint me ❤🙏
I agree that the name "Hera" is a somewhat unfortunate choice. But what's wrong with red hair?? It might have been chosen un order to make the look this character different from Eowyn.
لا اعتقد انها هيرا لما ذا اشعر انها اثينه. لا احب الكذب. هيه مجرد اداه لظم وعيها لتلك الشخصيه واندماجها به فقط وتظيع هوية الفتات في هيرا. نحنو لسنا قطع غيار تبن. مجرد افلام دمويه. لقتل البشر.
Im definitely looking forward to this movie. It might even pave the way for more stories from Middle Earth lore to be adapted in anime format.
I'm personally nervous about these images. I have not watched much anime, but these images look so much like Japanese anime that I when I imagine them moving I expect to hear Japanese. I just don't think this type of animation style is a good pick for a more "Western European" story. I would have chosen a more western animation style to match.
watch vinland saga. its viking anima and its incredible and works very well.
Animation is not why I it won't do well but more cause they will "update" and "make for modern times" the story taking Far far from how Tolkien would have done it
Isn't anyone anoyed by the fact that they named the main character Hera? Why did they choos a Greek god name for a Middle earth character?
it gets worse....it sounds like they are getting ready to twist Tolkien's work all over again...this was one of the telling signs...of naming a character from a Greek Goddess...where it doesn't fit.
I don't know how I feel about calling Wolf a villain. I never saw him as a "bad" guy seeing as how Helm killed his father just because he wanted their kids to get married.
Hope the Dunlendings aren`t made out to be beasts as they`re based on my Celtic lot. Couldn`t care less about woke rings
I think that New Line Cinema have asked for an unreasonable Venn Diagram for success between LotR fans and anime fans. I would go so far as to say that most LotR fans will be taken aback by an anime style applied to Arda. I think it will flop as a result.
Hard to judge how it looks without seeing it motion but it looks very low budget and generic even for anime standards.
We know the name of Helm's successor: Fréaláf Hildeson. Hild was Helm's sister and Fréaláf was her son. When Helm's sons Haleth and Háma perished, Fréaláf Hildeson became the new heir of the House of Eorl and thus the lawful King of the Mark after Helm's death. Helm was succeeded by his sister's son and not by his daughter's son. But his unnamed daughter was mentioned in Appendix A to "The Lord of the Rings".
"The War of the Rohirrim" creates a film mix of Helm's sister Hild and Helm's unnamed daughter as a newly invented daughter named Hera, Héra or Hēra. But these forms are not entirely consistent with Old English as used in "The Lord of the Rings" while all other Rohanese names are. Tolkien wouldn't have named a female character of Rohan "Hera". It's rather a Greek than an Anglo-Saxon name. Still, it's possible for this film character Hera to take the functions not just of Helm's sister and daughter but also of Helm's nephew and successor, Fréaláf Hildeson. Hera could become the hero, so to say.
As later King Théoden's sword was named Herugrim, it would make some sense for a Hera to be its first owner.
Gonna be a bait and switch not even gonna be about helm hammer hand gonna be about his daughter just another bait and switch movie about a character that never existed
I'm always happy to have more content when it comes to Middle Earth. That being said, I can't think of a more boring story then this. I watch Lord of the rings for the fantasy aspect. I can watch a 100 movies with humans fighting humans on horseback. If they are going to do animated, uh... 1st age.. hello??? War of wrath?
I think it looks OK but I am getting strong Netflix anime vibes (like Castlevania) which is, as I said, OK, but a tad overdone. I guess it meets my expectations but I'm left underwhelmed as a result. I will wait for more info about it, but I'm sure I'll see it upon release :)
You're late 🤣
Hera is a Greek name, it doesn't match the Anglo-Dainish theme of Rohan. A variation on Frigg or Frig would have been a far better match. I'm worried about what I'm hearing about this story getting "current day'd"
I feel a lot of people were put off because, people said although i wouldn’t know this at all, the “nerd” was sponsored by amazon and so the reviews were positive
I would not say this, but people said it a lot i heard; it’s a strange connection
An anime obvious comparison, I’m thinking of, would/could be Vinland Saga
I think I'm in the minority in not looking forward to an animated film. I might be excited to watch it on a Saturday morning (reference to old school Saturday morning cartoons) but not excited to pay to see it in theaters.
But to all those that appreciate and enjoy animation I hope you love it and I hope they do the story justice!
i dont like this style of animation. But i will see it anyway.
3:05 I might be wrong but maybe the blue hue is just for shading purpose.
My only concern is having Hèra as the protagonist. As one of the main characters, this would make sense but if the movie is built around her I think that would be a mistake.
@@istari0 especially when we have Frealaf.
Facts
wonder if they can also make the original LOTR version like this soon
I mean that would take ages to make. People often dont realize how time consuming detailed animation like this is. For example the average animated movie from studio ghibli take 2-3 years to produce, and those usually have a runtime of 2 hours. Now imagine how long even a shortend and simplified Lord of the Rings would take to make, even at "only" 6 hours long you look at 6-9 years, not to mention if they would got for the full 12 hours :D.
So long story short, i highly doubt it will happen.
@@marvinbange1216 It will happen with AI filling some gaps in between
@@matthieub5748yeah no 😂
@@S0L12D3 Yeah, yea. Animation studios will definitely adapt AI tech to speed up their production. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.
@@bloodieown ok you’re taking my statement out of context. I’m not debating whether ai would be used in a project like that. I’m debating whether they will make an animated version of the movies.
And I highly doubt they will
I heard war of the rohirrom is going to be another bait and switch or fan faction . It’s all going to be about hammerhands daughter . Who I think is mentioned on like 1 page and doesn’t have a name .
Im excited about this, but part of me wishes the animation style was more realistic like what was used in Beowulf, and less like anime.
it's just gonna be another woke project we all know it. It's gonna suck probably.
One thing I want to point out, I think the person standing behind Hera isn't wearing blue and white, rather it's just white and the bluish hues come from the shadows.
Please for the love of god don’t let them throw a chick in it and make them lame. Please let them focus on the stories revolving Helm and the fight with Dunlend. Please don’t switch everything out that is great about this story and these characters just to insert a strong independent woman that don’t need no man. Please if they make Hera some type of leading character let her walk the path of Eowyn, not those of Guyladriel or Mae Rey Sue Skywalker. It would be such a shame if all this work was put in just for the film to follow the same boring tropes that have plagued modern media for the last 10 years.
I love the fact that they are make a movie about the rohirrim it I find anime in general not a great meadow for stories that’s just my personal opinion
Oh no, we have a Boss Lady.
Uhm yeah...its rohan...you know...the place with the shield maidens
@@callnight1441 who plays little part in this
@@jordanmince7613 we dont know what part she plays; shes barely mentioned; she could literally have been anywhere
@@callnight1441if shes not mentioned then she doesn't really play an important part then
@@jordanmince7613 fan bois
Hera is going to be the main character and hero of this show, and not Helm. Mark my words.
Man I am underwhelmed. They said it was not going to be like anything seen before... but it looks pretty damned generic to me.
I hope I'm wrong, I hope it turns out really well... and it had better not end up being woke..but I am getting that vibe from this "Hera" character in the prior interview; I wouldn't be surprised.
As for myself, I agree they should have gone retro instead of the quasi anime art style, but I would have loved to see it done in the Rankin Bass design 😏
I think nothing beats Anastasia-style.
@@mrs.manrique7411 Yes, very underrated. Good choice!
Yes, animae is too common, and it's a Japanese style. I would have liked a completely new look that sets the film apart in appearance from other animated films. I remember when drawing the film Sleeping Beauty back in the 50's, Disney's animators referred to tapestries from the Middle Ages for their style. They wanted the film to look distinctly Medieval, and that's exactly what they accomplished. The film is beautiful, but most importantly, it doesn't look like any other film before or after it. That's what I wanted for this film.
@@L1623VP To me, Sleeping Beauty looks like all Disney movies, except with a tint of medieval art. Just like Mulan looks like every Disney movie, except with a hint of traditional Asian art. If you look at the concept art and compare it to the final product, the change is stark.
In the same vein, this anime looks pretty neat, but it does derive a lot from other of the same genre. I don't know how to make it look original, but Disney isn't any better in terms of uniqueness.
@@Marcotonio Watch the making of video for Sleeping Beauty. It's probably on UA-cam somewhere. It was an extra on the anniversary DVD I bought years ago. You'll see the striking difference to other Disney films when they put the backgrounds for the scenes of Sleeping Beauty against the Medieval tapestries. The animators did a fantastic job emulating that style. The funny thing is that I've loved the look of that film for decades and never knew exactly why until I saw the reasoning behind the animators' deliberate choice and style. I could tell it was distinctly different even back then without knowing why.
Sigh this is not what i was wanting . I was hoping for a CGI style yet they make this in Japamation
PLEASE don't make this ANOTHER "Girl Boss" movie.
It gives Ghibli vibes to me so probably it will be, but with a good way
Rohan has a tradition of shield maidens. its the reason why Eowyn was such a good fighter. Having this film be a "girlboss film" would make total in-univers sense
@@callnight1441no it wouldn't its more helm and his sons who play a role in this
@@jordanmince7613 so? expand her role. actually have us see shield maidens in action rather than them just being a fun fact about the people.
@@callnight1441thats fine if they do as long as they don't swap character roles around
Never was into anime, vut super excited for this!
Dude I really don’t care about anything Rings Of Power related and I think you’d be better off not even covering it. It has much as much to do with Tolkien as Harry Potter.
You care enough to make a fuss about it online.
Im still keeping my hopes up, this looks and feels amazing
It's pronounced "Han Buri Han."
Can't wait for this!
War of the Rohirrim beats ROP easily.
To clarify. Attack on titans is not written for kids. Way not for kids, due to its violent nature. It's for teens and adults (or young adult).
Regarding the art style for this movie. It doesnt justified middle earth. Sure it's nice to have designs from peter jackson and convert it in anime form, but the overall feel is just too flat. It doesn't carry the feeling peter jackson. One probable animation is style that i think appropriate for world of middle earth is from anime movie called Lodoss of Record war. That anime does have semblance to LoTR and has a good feeling of mystery which for me is what the middle earth overly feel.
1:53 Is that the Ring Of Power that Sauron gave Helm to later become a RingWraith in "Shadow of War"? ;)
If it has amazing animation like Vinland Saga I can see it definitely working. Also hoping the writing is good because we definitely need some good LOTR content. Hera being the protagonist could work with again….good writing.
Garbage. Not Tolkienian at all.
Why.......why have Lord of the Rings in Anime🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Because they are the studios who can do it as there aren't any american studios that do good 2d animation anymore
The fact that Philippa Boyens is involved gives me hope.
The wait is almost over. I could really use some good Middle-earth content right now
As an animation artist and anime enjoyer, this is very high-end, high-budget animation. Invoking design cues from Miyazaki/Ghibli in level of ornate and detail-centric background and clothing designs, but with a slightly more photorealistic/mature anatomy for the character designs- which makes sense for an audience used to similar juggernauts in grimdark settings like Castlevania for their animation-for-grownups.
I'm very excited about the level of mastery and craft demonstrated in these stills alone. My interest went from 4% to 100%.
Rings of power is a failure
I'm tentatively excited about this. However, I'm annoyed the Haradrim are featured in this and concerned that Boyens and Walsh are up to their own tricks/distortions of the text for the sake of drama. The story of Helm Hammerhand could easily be told without bringing in the Mumakil and Haradrim.
i really hope they give helm a similar aura as theoden had in the movies albeit perhaps a bit more regal, sturdy and strong
A cartoon. Bummer.
The animation studio is Sola Digital arts. It's a newer studio with a few projects. If it's working with Production I.G (lots of sports and action experience) then it'll be really good. Will depend on whose doing the directing.
Love it! Super excited! As far as the audience perspective, in LOTR Tolkien usually writes from the least knowledgeable character’s perspective so it would be very interesting to see line with his writing if we see almost everything through Hera’s “eyes” in this story. I think that would show some true attention to detail and would make many very happy fans.