@@TinkerWithTools it's a tried and true tool. Not the strongest, but has a touch like you wouldn't believe. Can set a screw exactly where you want it. Whereas with the newer models it's easier to accidentally overdrive the fastener too deep
Great video! My choice is solid on the 840. 809 in my area (Middle Tennessee) is exclusive to HD and the 840 is exclusive to Lowes. Because of the 840, I feel the 809 is absolutely obsolete, as are several others in the DeWalt lineup. Too many people get caught up in specs when running long screws and lags. Instead of taking the risk of damaging the tool, switch over to an impact wrench. I run long lags with an 899, which also by the way will take lug nuts off a semi truck. Great content !!!
I have an 887 and there is never been another DeWalt that can keep up with it. Anytime somebody uses mine they ask what is this? So much more power than a typical home Depot or Lowe's offering
I think it was a good impact driver when it first came out and if we are being honest with ourselves still has plenty of power to get jobs done. But DEWALT was 2 impact drivers that are smaller and more compact than it but still offer the same power that it has. So for the new DEWALT buyer I would recommend those over it given the relatively similar pricing.
But the price of the 887 is significantly cheaper than the others ,Plus the 850 is short term junk ,it won't get out of warranty and any replacement will fail shortly after warranty, I was that soldier r@@TinkerWithTools
Personally, I've seen 5 or 6 of the 850s fail when being worked hard. That was enough to keep me using an 885 til the 840/845 came out. The 850 is a potent little sucker, for sure. And my personal view may not be representative of the tool entirely. Though servicenet calls on them are exponentially more than the 840/845 as of last month. I don't see why it's $50 more than the 845/840 personally.
Yes the 850 is a XR in UK, i just got Kit DCK2050M2 at Home Depot in the AZ. It came with 2, 4HM batteries branded XR. With hammer drill DCD805 XR branded. Best of all kits by far, I’ve bought.
That's a pretty good kit. Here they don't pair the 800/805 with any of the newer impact drivers it seems. Same thing with some of the newer kits with the 998/999 drill. They pair them with the older 887 still.
Every brand has a 3 or 4 tier system for both impacts and drills. At the bottom you got the homeowner brushed models, then you got the sub-compact, light duty impact and drill driver for cabinet makers and whatnot. Then there's the medium, entry level basic kit impact and hammer drill. Lastly you got the premium high torque driver and hammer drill, with all the speeds, features, aux handles, bluetooth links, all that stuff. And you got the one-offs, like the Surges, or Makita and Hikoki oil impulse drivers, or the 3 speed drills from Metabo, etc.
What they need to do with everything they make is go through and start discontinuing stuff thats been replaced by newer models, and the entire brushed line...
I secretly still love a few of the brushed models. That said, they should like, rename that line. "Old school tools that work good but ain't fancy, they make sparks and cool noises" I'd rather see them nix the entire atomic line, and put in old brushless tools instead of micro tools that generally stink. (Some don't stink)
I have a soft spot for the brushed models. I would like to see them bring the prices down more to make them more of their budget line, because when the brushed model is about the same price as the brushless, it kinda makes them pointless. I do think dewalt could gain some good market share if the brushed models were a great value.
My favorite has been the 887 ,but I just got an 850 to replace it. The 850 is going to fit in tight places better for my purposes. Got the DCF850B for $105 on line. It was only available at that price for a few days. $149 @ HD is just too much for the bare tool.
I bought a 18 volt dewalt impact driver ols post type brushed . Still runs awesome after 12 yrs , now i just have 2 of them found what I like . Got rid of the others
I have some of the new dewalt tools on my Christmas list this year to replace my aging dcf887 and other tools, and my wife straight up to me she couldn't figure out how to order from the current black Friday deals to get me what I wanted because of 2 issues. First, the vast number of still produced models within each category of tool, even going back more than 1 tool generation, and secondly because, particularly home depot this year, their tools pairings aren't ideal in the bundles. You can't get a dcf860 and a dcd1007 in the same bundle without getting another impact or another drill with it.
Its been a bit disappointing that the 860 and the 1007 aren't sold in a pairing together. when I first bought mine, you end up paying close to 500 to make a one battery "combo" of sorts by purchasing the kit of one and the bare tool of the other. Less than ideal especially considering they are still selling older combo kits stock but nothing that has the top impact (even at the time it was released) and the top drill
Call me crazy but I always use DCF801 to open up electronics repair, including Roombas. The speed 1 mode is so helpful with delicate situations. I got this tool to handle some awkwardly located bits on the high ceiling or 2nd story height deck at my home. Carrying DCF887 all the way to stretch to weird position was not very good experience. But 801 is now placed at my working desk companion... Now I need another 12V impact driver O_o);;
I have all of these as well as the quick connect Flex, a Gen 3 M18 and a Gen 3 M12. Out of the 9-10 impact drivers i own, the 850 usually winds up in my hand. I have used the new 845 quite a bit and it is very nice. On stubborn bolts/screws i will reach for the M18 or Flex. Good videos brother. God Bless!
I have not experienced myself.. my job is not any close to those powerful tools, except DCF801 with gear 1. But according to some videos I have seen, 885 is a really good one, especially on metalwork situation. ua-cam.com/video/rs53o15twco/v-deo.html The video is Korean. So you might need to turn on closed captions. the old man at the right side is a 885 (and 850) guy. 885 kicked out 887/840/845 with metal I-beam drilling. I guess these kind of tools, being old isn't always obsolete.
Super helpful video! Thank you. Trying to figure out Dewalt's lineups is beyond confusing. Spoiled by M12 and M18 being so simple but want to branch out into some yellow tools as well but always go crosseyed at the Dewalt display.
My two 840s drop bits after several months of use. My 887 is older and has not had that problem. Getting 1 840 back from being repaired the second time. will see if it's better.
I have a dcf 809 with two 1.3 batteries should i upgrade to 845 or 850 if comes with power stack battery or just look to buy powerstack 5ah batteries alone
I have had the 809 and I didn’t love it. Both the 845 and the 850 would be an improvement over that impact. If it were money I would like the better impact.
I’ve done some testing with 10” and 12” lags in the past with shorts content, but not necessarily on something like a structural screw. I’ll see if we can include something longer in the future but it likely won’t be in every video.
From what I understand, manufacturers in Europe are required to list them at their nominal voltage where US laws don't require that. At the end of the day it's the same thing though, just a different sticker on the side.
I recently got into DeWalt tools a year ago and i never got the home depot vs lowes thing. The store i go to (runnings) or anywhere local to me sell everything that DeWalt has to offer. Which made it even more confusing on what to get until i did some research.
I believe the reason for the different models for the two different stores is to avoid having to match sale prices at different stores. With the exception of a few models, like the DCD887, there are almost no models that are sold at both locations. That might be effective to avoid price matching but it introduces a lot of confusion into the line-up.
What no one ever tests is battery stamina and tool longevity. I dont care if a model is .6 seconds slower than the next, especially if it can outlast the "better" model. My comment is not a criticism of this video. It is great Information, but rather for average guy wanting bang for the buck, I need to know if a tool I buy will last and how long i can expe t it to run between charging.
I’ll attempt to answer why not with a few points. 1) battery stamina is most easily tested on something like a light, blower or heat gun that you can and just record. Running a battery down on a drill or impact would take hundreds of screws and large amounts of testing medium. While a smaller channel like myself does make money it’s a second job or hobby done late at night and the income does not completely offset my costs let alone my time. So while I would love to test it, I have to pick and choose. 2) longevity testing also presents issues of time. And it’s something difficult to simulate how is used in the field is different than testing in a shop for hours on end. So even at that it might not be equal. 3) while I do use many if not all of my tools regularly if not daily, because of the number of tools I have due to this channel, giving each one “full” use just isn’t possible without a team of testers. So with each of these items, I have chosen to rely on you the viewers to help share this aspect as it’s just not practical in the present. If you have suggestions of how to do it working around these road blocks if you will, I am certainly open to hear them.
Thanks! I think I find the makita approach overkill to some degree but with the quick shift button on some of their impacts I do like the ability to quickly toggle through the core modes.
I tested all of the newest impacts, even the older atomic on the power stack. For consistency I should’ve tested the 887 on the power stack as well but for what it’s worth the 5 and the power stack are pretty similar in my experience
The 845 is slightly better in testing (over different videos) but the difference is small, and expecially now when the 840 for a kit is 99 and the 845 bare tool is higher priced, the choice feels pretty obvious.
The problem is, they make different models for the two big box stores, and call me crazy but I am thoroughly convinced, that if you buy one from Granger, or a highly specialized tool store, they are different than the ones you get at the orange and blue store
I’ve heard this before and also heard that if you get them directly from DEWALT they are different quality. I have a hard time believing it since they aren’t different models but I guess they only way to test would be open them up and compare.
@@TinkerWithTools sku for sku, all tools are the same. Historically, they had USA vs Mexico assembly locations. That said, HD and Lowes both had store specific skus. But they were still the same as that same sku found at a different retailer. I can try to find the vid, but like a decade ago someone did an hour long deep dive video including disassembly and dissection of individual parts of a few tools. The verdict was, all were legit. But not all tools and tool lines are created equal, even within the same manufacturer, even with the same tool model number, there were different skus.
@@TinkerWithTools ya. I do. I got the 840 but took it back. I wanted as much nut busting torque I could get. I watched a video on all the torque specs and the 850 has the best nut busting.
Of all of the DEWALT impacts currently available I think I would settle on the 845 for the work I do. I like the idea of the 850 but I just prefer a little more speed on the impact driver. I’m hoping the 860 that has been leaked really steps things up.
Good video. But it is not an universal fact that Dewalt grips are good. In fact i find them not very comfortable at all compared to Milwaukee, Makita and especially Bosch. The grip at the base feels too small and the placement of the direction switch is often awkward and hard to reach on Dewalts. And in my experience the Dewalt rubber overmold deteriorates faster than many other tools brands.
Appreciate the input. I get that individually others might have different opinions. Dewalts grips are consistent so if you like you will probably like them all.
I'm a Big DeWalt Guy , they make great tools but when it comes to their Impact Drivers they are Slacking and I don't understand why , especially when they make the Most Powerful Impact Wrenches on the Planet ........ 👍 🖖
Yeah I definitely felt the 845 was going to follow on the footsteps of the impact drivers. The fact that the entry level brushless is beating all the of them consistently makes me laugh.
I don't find them lacking at all for impact drivers. For the size of the fasteners you should be using with them, they have a great touch. There is a such thing as, too much power. Can't exactly install cabinets or deck screws well with 300lb ft on tap ;);) Do you mean they are lacking power? If so, what is it you are using for fastener size, and into what material haha. I have zero complaints with my 845 and 840, and my still surviving 3 885s haha.
@@johnthumble5154he was speaking to battery impact wrenches. Wherein that category, DeWalt takes the gold across the board after a number of years of being an underdog. If you mean the IR high torque, so be it, 1.2k breakaway is enough for anyone using a 1/2" impact socket set ;)
@@OscyJack- torque test Channel calls bullshit on everything you said and I'll take a calibrated dyno over whatever you're on about. Not even sure why you're mentioning that's it's battery category? The current undisputed most powerful BATTERY IMPACT is made by IR Hell even project farm demonstrates time after time DeWalt underperforming by and not even by a margin.
Dewalt has way too many duplicative tools in their lineup. Stanley Black and Decker has essentially killed off Black and Decker (homeowner) and Porter Cable (prosumer). They have essentially left us with DeWalt running from cheap brushed stuff (which should really be B&D) to brushless (should be porter Cable) and then XR (pro grade). Then add in Craftsman having a similar approach and it's just a mess. I wish they would stop confusing consumers.
Tis true. Personally I don't have a problem with it because I tend to do a lot of research prior to purchasing, but I'd agree most people probably get lost while searching for a tool. It's funny cuz a lot of the craftsman is a carbon copy of dewalts outgoing/matured brushless lines. I think a lot of dewalts tools are top choices, but where they aren't, man they suck. I was actually glad the first time I was disappointed with a tool from them, because it gave me the opportunity to go with other brands. And now, I have all chargers and batts for most brands, so I can choose the best tool rather than sticking within an ecosystem. Fwiw, DeWalt mowers aren't very good. I'd skip em ;)
@@OscyJack-I do a lot of research, too. However, the DeWalt lineup makes me pull up my phone to recheck whenever I am shopping. It's just that confusing... I have a DeWalt 20v OMT and DeWalt XR jigsaw. They are good tools (particularly that jigsaw). I agree, though, DeWalt has produced a few duds. Most of my other tools are Metabo HPT. I love their battery promos and their MultiVolt system is good. From what I've heard, the Metabo HPT OMT isn't much to write home about. I like barrel handled jigsaws, that means no Metabo HPT jigsaw for me. I also have Bosch12v and really like their stuff. You are right, no one brand has the best. Each of them produce a few "clunkers". I'm having a hard to time thinking of which Bosch tools are clunkers, though....
@@nkgoodal Bosch and Makita are steady offerings, since like forever haha. Yeah DeWalt ain't perfect for sure. I think I personally don't sweat their lineup because I started with them, and follow most releases. But for someone who just checks in now and then, you make an entirely valid point for sure. The jigsaw is top freaking notch haha
I have tested one craftsman combo kit on the channel and I don’t have plans to bring them back any time soon. They just don’t appeal to me. Most companies will have several tiers to appeal to a variety of buyers and that is fine but I don’t love that they keep outgoing models on shelves. Makes it confusing to the consumer.
@@TinkerWithTools 100%. Imo the craftsman line is designed to get sales from people who might need a one off tool for a home project, or to pray on those who aren't "in the know" who thinks craftsman is still the well made OG USA craftsman and that they're getting a "steal" compared to the top brand prices. They do work, I don't want to suggest that they are worthless. But I equate them with Ryobi personally most of the time, Ryobi non one+ line. A good value, totally usable, but not worth the money if you actually need tools for daily use. Better of spending more and getting more. That said, their impacts being literally the same as the DeWalt 894/899 makes those two tools, legit. They arent the strongest but they are super well built.
Lol it's not complicated people, get the newest XR stuff and if u want compact get the Atomic, if u want 12 volt get xtreme, it's only complicated if you are dumb lol
@@TinkerWithTools bro "the best" is a matter of opinion, but it is a fact that the newest XR tools will have the most power, and Atomic will be as powerful as possible in a compact tool, not my opinion that is the formula Dewalt goes by, look at the stats for yourself
I am not talking about the Atomic. I love that impact driver but at the end of the day, the DCD840 has won almost every dewalt comparison I have put it in against any of the more modern impact drivers. My conclusion remains that the 845 is probably the best impact driver but if it's not on sale and the 840 is, i don't think you are sacrificing performance, despite what their stated specs are. In real world applications the 840 brings it.
Love my 840. Its a perfect evolution of the old 885. Same feel, same ability for delicacy, plenty of power if needed.
I’ve never used the 885 but people speak highly of it on here.
@@TinkerWithTools it's a tried and true tool. Not the strongest, but has a touch like you wouldn't believe. Can set a screw exactly where you want it. Whereas with the newer models it's easier to accidentally overdrive the fastener too deep
@@OscyJack-agreed the 885 is still very impressive in that regard I also love the grip. I also thought the same about the 840
@@Bloodmoon1985 that grip though dude. Sooo good
Great video! My choice is solid on the 840. 809 in my area (Middle Tennessee) is exclusive to HD and the 840 is exclusive to Lowes. Because of the 840, I feel the 809 is absolutely obsolete, as are several others in the DeWalt lineup. Too many people get caught up in specs when running long screws and lags. Instead of taking the risk of damaging the tool, switch over to an impact wrench. I run long lags with an 899, which also by the way will take lug nuts off a semi truck. Great content !!!
The 840 is a great choice! Glad you enjoyed it!
I have an 887 and there is never been another DeWalt that can keep up with it. Anytime somebody uses mine they ask what is this? So much more power than a typical home Depot or Lowe's offering
I think it was a good impact driver when it first came out and if we are being honest with ourselves still has plenty of power to get jobs done. But DEWALT was 2 impact drivers that are smaller and more compact than it but still offer the same power that it has. So for the new DEWALT buyer I would recommend those over it given the relatively similar pricing.
But the price of the 887 is significantly cheaper than the others ,Plus the 850 is short term junk ,it won't get out of warranty and any replacement will fail shortly after warranty, I was that soldier r@@TinkerWithTools
The 850 is probably my favorite drive ever. Followed closely by the 1st gen XGT. Although I do love my M18 surge as well.
The 850 is fun and although it’s not the fastest even amongst the other dewalts I still think I like it the most.
Personally, I've seen 5 or 6 of the 850s fail when being worked hard. That was enough to keep me using an 885 til the 840/845 came out.
The 850 is a potent little sucker, for sure. And my personal view may not be representative of the tool entirely. Though servicenet calls on them are exponentially more than the 840/845 as of last month. I don't see why it's $50 more than the 845/840 personally.
Love my DCF845 WHIT 5Amps Batery Pack❤
Yes the 850 is a XR in UK, i just got Kit DCK2050M2 at Home Depot in the AZ. It came with 2, 4HM batteries branded XR. With hammer drill DCD805 XR branded. Best of all kits by far, I’ve bought.
That's a pretty good kit. Here they don't pair the 800/805 with any of the newer impact drivers it seems. Same thing with some of the newer kits with the 998/999 drill. They pair them with the older 887 still.
Every brand has a 3 or 4 tier system for both impacts and drills. At the bottom you got the homeowner brushed models, then you got the sub-compact, light duty impact and drill driver for cabinet makers and whatnot.
Then there's the medium, entry level basic kit impact and hammer drill. Lastly you got the premium high torque driver and hammer drill, with all the speeds, features, aux handles, bluetooth links, all that stuff.
And you got the one-offs, like the Surges, or Makita and Hikoki oil impulse drivers, or the 3 speed drills from Metabo, etc.
What they need to do with everything they make is go through and start discontinuing stuff thats been replaced by newer models, and the entire brushed line...
I agree. That would be the consumer friendly move. It seems that some brands take a more heavy handed approach at clearancing out old tools.
I secretly still love a few of the brushed models. That said, they should like, rename that line. "Old school tools that work good but ain't fancy, they make sparks and cool noises"
I'd rather see them nix the entire atomic line, and put in old brushless tools instead of micro tools that generally stink. (Some don't stink)
I have a soft spot for the brushed models. I would like to see them bring the prices down more to make them more of their budget line, because when the brushed model is about the same price as the brushless, it kinda makes them pointless. I do think dewalt could gain some good market share if the brushed models were a great value.
@@OscyJack-I'd love if they expanded their 12v extreme line over the atomic.
@@Saw_Squatch agree.
thanks for the review. It would help if iso saying 'this" or "that", there would be a label on the video showing what model nr it is
I appreciate the feedback! Glad you liked the video!
Personally, I wouldn't even bother with the xr. I'd get the 850 for torque, and 840 for speed. Those two would be a great combination.
Pretty good combo!
My favorite has been the 887 ,but I just got an 850 to replace it. The 850 is going to fit in tight places better for my purposes. Got the DCF850B for $105 on line. It was only available at that price for a few days. $149 @ HD is just too much for the bare tool.
That’s a good price you got it for. I don’t see the 850 go on sale much
I bought a 18 volt dewalt impact driver ols post type brushed . Still runs awesome after 12 yrs , now i just have 2 of them found what I like . Got rid of the others
Glad they are working out for you.
I have some of the new dewalt tools on my Christmas list this year to replace my aging dcf887 and other tools, and my wife straight up to me she couldn't figure out how to order from the current black Friday deals to get me what I wanted because of 2 issues. First, the vast number of still produced models within each category of tool, even going back more than 1 tool generation, and secondly because, particularly home depot this year, their tools pairings aren't ideal in the bundles. You can't get a dcf860 and a dcd1007 in the same bundle without getting another impact or another drill with it.
Its been a bit disappointing that the 860 and the 1007 aren't sold in a pairing together. when I first bought mine, you end up paying close to 500 to make a one battery "combo" of sorts by purchasing the kit of one and the bare tool of the other. Less than ideal especially considering they are still selling older combo kits stock but nothing that has the top impact (even at the time it was released) and the top drill
Call me crazy but I always use DCF801 to open up electronics repair, including Roombas. The speed 1 mode is so helpful with delicate situations.
I got this tool to handle some awkwardly located bits on the high ceiling or 2nd story height deck at my home. Carrying DCF887 all the way to stretch to weird position was not very good experience.
But 801 is now placed at my working desk companion... Now I need another 12V impact driver O_o);;
I don't think that there is anything crazy with that.
I have all of these as well as the quick connect Flex, a Gen 3 M18 and a Gen 3 M12. Out of the 9-10 impact drivers i own, the 850 usually winds up in my hand. I have used the new 845 quite a bit and it is very nice. On stubborn bolts/screws i will reach for the M18 or Flex. Good videos brother. God Bless!
I like the 850 as well. And thanks. Same to you.
I have not experienced myself.. my job is not any close to those powerful tools, except DCF801 with gear 1. But according to some videos I have seen, 885 is a really good one, especially on metalwork situation.
ua-cam.com/video/rs53o15twco/v-deo.html
The video is Korean. So you might need to turn on closed captions. the old man at the right side is a 885 (and 850) guy. 885 kicked out 887/840/845 with metal I-beam drilling.
I guess these kind of tools, being old isn't always obsolete.
Super helpful video! Thank you. Trying to figure out Dewalt's lineups is beyond confusing. Spoiled by M12 and M18 being so simple but want to branch out into some yellow tools as well but always go crosseyed at the Dewalt display.
Glad it was helpful!
Milwaukee is currently manufacturing 8 impact drivers and 7 drills if you dont include electric screwdrivers, rotohammers, and impact wrenches
My two 840s drop bits after several months of use. My 887 is older and has not had that problem. Getting 1 840 back from being repaired the second time. will see if it's better.
Sorry you are having trouble with it but thanks for sharing the feedback.
THANK YOU for all the time you spend doing this for our benefit.
You’re welcome! Glad you find it helpful!
Great vids bud!
Just ordered a combo kir with DCF887 impact & DCD800 drill. Excellent info….
Thanks. Glad it was helpful!
My 885 is at a point where I need a replacement. Sucker has been with me for 8 years, the chuck stopped holding bits, it’s been gracefully worn out.
8 years is a good run!
Thanks so much for again, clearing up such a confusing topic.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a dcf 809 with two 1.3 batteries should i upgrade to 845 or 850 if comes with power stack battery or just look to buy powerstack 5ah batteries alone
I have had the 809 and I didn’t love it. Both the 845 and the 850 would be an improvement over that impact. If it were money I would like the better impact.
They are like Bosch. A bunch of drills and impacts for various different types of consumers.
Hi man can u bring some 10inch or longer screws to the test? Im carpenter looking for new drill and i use mostly 10 inch or longer screws
I’ve done some testing with 10” and 12” lags in the past with shorts content, but not necessarily on something like a structural screw. I’ll see if we can include something longer in the future but it likely won’t be in every video.
Get an impact wrench instead of an impact driver for long stuff. I use the 899, an absolute beast.
Ant idea why ours in the UK are branded 18V?
From what I understand, manufacturers in Europe are required to list them at their nominal voltage where US laws don't require that. At the end of the day it's the same thing though, just a different sticker on the side.
Another great video! Would you consider doing this for Bosch drills? There’s a lot of similar looking drills in their lineup, that’s for sure!
I’ll put it on my list.
I recently got into DeWalt tools a year ago and i never got the home depot vs lowes thing. The store i go to (runnings) or anywhere local to me sell everything that DeWalt has to offer. Which made it even more confusing on what to get until i did some research.
I believe the reason for the different models for the two different stores is to avoid having to match sale prices at different stores. With the exception of a few models, like the DCD887, there are almost no models that are sold at both locations. That might be effective to avoid price matching but it introduces a lot of confusion into the line-up.
Good video great knowledge of the range well done
Thanks Doc!
What no one ever tests is battery stamina and tool longevity. I dont care if a model is .6 seconds slower than the next, especially if it can outlast the "better" model. My comment is not a criticism of this video. It is great Information, but rather for average guy wanting bang for the buck, I need to know if a tool I buy will last and how long i can expe t it to run between charging.
I’ll attempt to answer why not with a few points. 1) battery stamina is most easily tested on something like a light, blower or heat gun that you can and just record. Running a battery down on a drill or impact would take hundreds of screws and large amounts of testing medium. While a smaller channel like myself does make money it’s a second job or hobby done late at night and the income does not completely offset my costs let alone my time. So while I would love to test it, I have to pick and choose. 2) longevity testing also presents issues of time. And it’s something difficult to simulate how is used in the field is different than testing in a shop for hours on end. So even at that it might not be equal. 3) while I do use many if not all of my tools regularly if not daily, because of the number of tools I have due to this channel, giving each one “full” use just isn’t possible without a team of testers.
So with each of these items, I have chosen to rely on you the viewers to help share this aspect as it’s just not practical in the present. If you have suggestions of how to do it working around these road blocks if you will, I am certainly open to hear them.
I think that 12v would be perfect for fasting furniture. With the really light impacts.
It’s a good one. They have a 12v screwdriver with an adjustable clutch that I like for that task too.
Put a 6ah flexvolt on that 887 and watch it go
I’ll have to try that out.
dewalt barely putting three speed on their top impacts, while makita puts 11 modes casually :D awesome breakdown btw!
Thanks! I think I find the makita approach overkill to some degree but with the quick shift button on some of their impacts I do like the ability to quickly toggle through the core modes.
I don't like speed selectors on impacts. Probably because I started with a variable speed trigger, but that's still my preference.
@@OscyJack- you don't have to use them if you don't want to, they have variable trigger also
@@riba2233 I don't use em generally, at least not for a driver ;)
As of yet, no comments on standard vs powerstack influence on the results. Where's the popcorn
I tested all of the newest impacts, even the older atomic on the power stack. For consistency I should’ve tested the 887 on the power stack as well but for what it’s worth the 5 and the power stack are pretty similar in my experience
so, from a performance standpoint you are saying the 840, not the 845, correct?
The 845 is slightly better in testing (over different videos) but the difference is small, and expecially now when the 840 for a kit is 99 and the 845 bare tool is higher priced, the choice feels pretty obvious.
The problem is, they make different models for the two big box stores, and call me crazy but I am thoroughly convinced, that if you buy one from Granger, or a highly specialized tool store, they are different than the ones you get at the orange and blue store
I’ve heard this before and also heard that if you get them directly from DEWALT they are different quality. I have a hard time believing it since they aren’t different models but I guess they only way to test would be open them up and compare.
@@TinkerWithTools sku for sku, all tools are the same. Historically, they had USA vs Mexico assembly locations. That said, HD and Lowes both had store specific skus. But they were still the same as that same sku found at a different retailer.
I can try to find the vid, but like a decade ago someone did an hour long deep dive video including disassembly and dissection of individual parts of a few tools. The verdict was, all were legit. But not all tools and tool lines are created equal, even within the same manufacturer, even with the same tool model number, there were different skus.
@@TinkerWithTools that's for our beloved AvE uncle bumble fuck to get into... a man much wiser than us all
The 850 is a XR in UK.
Correct. I think that in a lot of the world it is. Do you have access to the 845 there as well?
@@TinkerWithTools ya. I do. I got the 840 but took it back. I wanted as much nut busting torque I could get. I watched a video on all the torque specs and the 850 has the best nut busting.
Yeah, from what I have seen it has a heavier anvil so it's slower than the 840 or 845 but does better on tougher, more torque focused tasks.
The 850 is a champion
Which one do you prefer?
Of all of the DEWALT impacts currently available I think I would settle on the 845 for the work I do. I like the idea of the 850 but I just prefer a little more speed on the impact driver. I’m hoping the 860 that has been leaked really steps things up.
My 850 is amazing
Good video. But it is not an universal fact that Dewalt grips are good. In fact i find them not very comfortable at all compared to Milwaukee, Makita and especially Bosch. The grip at the base feels too small and the placement of the direction switch is often awkward and hard to reach on Dewalts.
And in my experience the Dewalt rubber overmold deteriorates faster than many other tools brands.
Appreciate the input. I get that individually others might have different opinions. Dewalts grips are consistent so if you like you will probably like them all.
@@TinkerWithTools Totally agree. It's very subjective.
You forgot the triple 8 with the blue tooth
Yep. If I am not mistaken that is the 887 but with Bluetooth. I knew there would be some variants that we would leave out.
@@TinkerWithTools correct
DCF 891 ?
The 891 is an impact wrench. For that reason it wasn’t included in this lineup.
ty..lOl i thought they were all impact wrenches...looks like i need to go back to dewalt school@@TinkerWithTools
I'm a Big DeWalt Guy , they make great tools but when it comes to their Impact Drivers they are Slacking and I don't understand why , especially when they make the Most Powerful Impact Wrenches on the Planet ........ 👍 🖖
Yeah I definitely felt the 845 was going to follow on the footsteps of the impact drivers. The fact that the entry level brushless is beating all the of them consistently makes me laugh.
No they don't they're only just above Ryobi. Currently Ingersoll Rand has the most powerful, DeWalt barley out performs Ryobi...barley.
I don't find them lacking at all for impact drivers. For the size of the fasteners you should be using with them, they have a great touch. There is a such thing as, too much power. Can't exactly install cabinets or deck screws well with 300lb ft on tap ;);)
Do you mean they are lacking power? If so, what is it you are using for fastener size, and into what material haha. I have zero complaints with my 845 and 840, and my still surviving 3 885s haha.
@@johnthumble5154he was speaking to battery impact wrenches. Wherein that category, DeWalt takes the gold across the board after a number of years of being an underdog. If you mean the IR high torque, so be it, 1.2k breakaway is enough for anyone using a 1/2" impact socket set ;)
@@OscyJack- torque test Channel calls bullshit on everything you said and I'll take a calibrated dyno over whatever you're on about.
Not even sure why you're mentioning that's it's battery category? The current undisputed most powerful BATTERY IMPACT is made by IR
Hell even project farm demonstrates time after time DeWalt underperforming by and not even by a margin.
Dewalt has way too many duplicative tools in their lineup. Stanley Black and Decker has essentially killed off Black and Decker (homeowner) and Porter Cable (prosumer). They have essentially left us with DeWalt running from cheap brushed stuff (which should really be B&D) to brushless (should be porter Cable) and then XR (pro grade). Then add in Craftsman having a similar approach and it's just a mess. I wish they would stop confusing consumers.
Tis true. Personally I don't have a problem with it because I tend to do a lot of research prior to purchasing, but I'd agree most people probably get lost while searching for a tool.
It's funny cuz a lot of the craftsman is a carbon copy of dewalts outgoing/matured brushless lines.
I think a lot of dewalts tools are top choices, but where they aren't, man they suck. I was actually glad the first time I was disappointed with a tool from them, because it gave me the opportunity to go with other brands. And now, I have all chargers and batts for most brands, so I can choose the best tool rather than sticking within an ecosystem.
Fwiw, DeWalt mowers aren't very good. I'd skip em ;)
@@OscyJack-I do a lot of research, too. However, the DeWalt lineup makes me pull up my phone to recheck whenever I am shopping. It's just that confusing... I have a DeWalt 20v OMT and DeWalt XR jigsaw. They are good tools (particularly that jigsaw). I agree, though, DeWalt has produced a few duds. Most of my other tools are Metabo HPT. I love their battery promos and their MultiVolt system is good. From what I've heard, the Metabo HPT OMT isn't much to write home about. I like barrel handled jigsaws, that means no Metabo HPT jigsaw for me. I also have Bosch12v and really like their stuff. You are right, no one brand has the best. Each of them produce a few "clunkers". I'm having a hard to time thinking of which Bosch tools are clunkers, though....
@@nkgoodal Bosch and Makita are steady offerings, since like forever haha.
Yeah DeWalt ain't perfect for sure. I think I personally don't sweat their lineup because I started with them, and follow most releases. But for someone who just checks in now and then, you make an entirely valid point for sure.
The jigsaw is top freaking notch haha
I have tested one craftsman combo kit on the channel and I don’t have plans to bring them back any time soon. They just don’t appeal to me. Most companies will have several tiers to appeal to a variety of buyers and that is fine but I don’t love that they keep outgoing models on shelves. Makes it confusing to the consumer.
@@TinkerWithTools 100%. Imo the craftsman line is designed to get sales from people who might need a one off tool for a home project, or to pray on those who aren't "in the know" who thinks craftsman is still the well made OG USA craftsman and that they're getting a "steal" compared to the top brand prices. They do work, I don't want to suggest that they are worthless. But I equate them with Ryobi personally most of the time, Ryobi non one+ line. A good value, totally usable, but not worth the money if you actually need tools for daily use. Better of spending more and getting more.
That said, their impacts being literally the same as the DeWalt 894/899 makes those two tools, legit. They arent the strongest but they are super well built.
Lol it's not complicated people, get the newest XR stuff and if u want compact get the Atomic, if u want 12 volt get xtreme, it's only complicated if you are dumb lol
And if you did that you might pass up the best impact driver.
@@TinkerWithTools bro "the best" is a matter of opinion, but it is a fact that the newest XR tools will have the most power, and Atomic will be as powerful as possible in a compact tool, not my opinion that is the formula Dewalt goes by, look at the stats for yourself
I am not talking about the Atomic. I love that impact driver but at the end of the day, the DCD840 has won almost every dewalt comparison I have put it in against any of the more modern impact drivers. My conclusion remains that the 845 is probably the best impact driver but if it's not on sale and the 840 is, i don't think you are sacrificing performance, despite what their stated specs are. In real world applications the 840 brings it.
They are all to fast. My 18v is just perfect.
Dewalt is great at $99 impact drivers. But then they don’t add much to their more expensive ones to justify the premium.
Luckily even the premium one seems to be on sale for $99 now.
Too many impacts and none of them any good. Actually that's most of their tools.
I would say they have good impacts but not great impacts. But I get what you are saying about their impacts.
And you got less hair