That light is a genius feature, and reason enough to buy it. I bought my first Dewalt 20V tool after watching this channel, because the DCF891 impact was rated so highly in performance, and the other day I needed the light, and it worked perfectly for removing lug nuts in the dark. I could see that light on the drill being useful for actually working on panels and things, when you forget your light.
@@starseeddeluxe Same, I was looking for something to make my casual car work easier and that's how I got my DCF921 and I couldn't be happier with it. This channel is amazing, combined with ShopToolReviews, I feel like I'm getting a good rundown
You should retest in hammer drill mode. The 999 has a sensor in the collar and increases output in hammer mode. The 1007 appears to have this sensor too. (wire to gearbox) Not sure why they do this, but it's even on the sticker. 2000 -> 2200 rpm. You can 'trick' the drill by shifting back to regular drill without releasing the trigger. Also, I'm case you didn't see my previous comment, but a Megastack flexvolt (3 x 5PS) would make an interesting homemade battery. Keep up the great content!!
Best thing about this you didnt touch on is the side handle. It has notches in it now and not smooth. The old handle would wear out and not keep a good rotational grip on the drill making for some sketchy moments while using an ice auger.
Great testing as usual. Cordless drills are incredible strong these days. It would be interesting to see what kind of numbers big plumbing drills make. Like Superholehawk and Dewalts big right angle drills. Maybe video idea for future? Keep up the good work :)
@TorqueTestChannel I have the Makita XGT right angle drill if you want to borrow it. Was going to wait to offer until the BL4040F is released stateside, but if you'd like it sooner that's fine. Edit: lol how do I @?
i had to drill some 2 1/2 inch holes through steel to run some conduit . the big dewalt cordless almost broke my wrist because the aux handle was plastic. it would pop off and then my right hand tough the twist . ouch . got out my 1/2 inch dewalt corded drill with the metal aux handle and was able to drill the holes no problem. so i'm not sold on cordless for tough jobs and grabby jobs. the corded drill doesn't protect itself by shutting off suddenly . it's momentum carries it through .
@@ronblack7870 You need one with the kickback (or what ever it's called) protection. Older Dewalt did not have it and like mine would just break your wrist. In a couple reviews seen it seems Dewalt has incorporated this feature now. (or use another brand that has it)
Its great when you guys get your hands on tools before they're released. Have you ever considered testing battery powered mud mixers and large right angle drills, even if just to compare to the more traditional drills
Everything on this channel is free advertisement if the tool does well. We buy everyone's, so make a good tool and we're going to by our channel description give it free marketing. What brands aren't so keen on is debuting an item before they intend to, which hurts sales of their current offerings for a longer period of time while it's not out if the tool does well, and if it does poorly it's probably too close to release to change anything about it. I'm sure they'd all rather have a review of a tool when someone can add it to cart. The amount of copyright strikes, demonetizations and our rank chart offerings being removed from other website due to outside brand pressure would heavily imply they are not all on board with this sort of thing.
@@TorqueTestChannel i appreciate you guys putting these to the test, and ya, it makes sense if you get a preproduction model and put it through the paces that the company may not like it. It might still have some tweaks they are working on. Granted, I understand your sources probably tell you "this is the final version and will hit market at X time" or something like that. But, I gotta say, Dewalt hasnt really been failing since 2020. I dont know who put a bee in their bonnet, but we as consumers have been reaping the benefits because of it!
@@sabrevanson4412 Oh, we don't have any sources on it. Field testers are incredibly blind to any details about these things. We have to eventually buy the retail tool and double check.
@@TorqueTestChannelLegends the lot of you - not to be the "um ackshually" guy about spelling but an easy way to remember how to spell copyright is that it refers to the right to copy something. Copywriting has its etymological roots in "copy" referring to "edition" e.g. today's "copy" of the newspaper - so a copywriter describes someone who writes the copy (edition). Best I can tell, in the early days of printed media there was no distinction between people who wrote adverts and what we call journalists today - hence the umbrella term "copywriter"
Your one of few people putting out quality information on products that is beneficial for the consumer, over the manufacturer or retailer. Thank you. You have saved me money and also guided my actual purchase decisions.
Maybe it's my M12-appreciating ways, but I favor the Milwaukee design priorities (torque and size/weight). Glad to see DeWalt keeping them honest the last couple years. There was a while there where nobody seemed remotely close. Competition is good and DeWalt is turning out hit after hit.
I've never liked the M12 tools from Milwaukee. I'm not Norwegian or Viking or Dutch, so I don't have the enormous Brock Lesnar hands. M12 tools are incredibly "bulbous" and not nimble. I ended up with Dewalt 12 volt tools because the handle diameter is so small, the tools feel tiny and nimble as a 12 volt tool is expected. But M12 is loved by all, and I'm in the minority. I have average size hands, but most of the people I know who use the M12, they have unusually strong hands, to the point that one of my (M12 obsessed) coworkers frequently snapped cutters in half by accident when squeezing them with his grip, something I didn't think was possible.
I like to buy tools as I need em, so I have light weight not powerhouse drills and such, and want a powerhouse for my need to put in 12 inch lag bolts and such
One metric I am always interested in with these drill/drivers is slowest possible speed. It's the reason I still reach for my old brushed DCD950 over my impact drivers any day. Sometimes you need that finesse to drive a screw that 1/4 turn (or less) further, and most drivers just can't do that. If this new DeWalt can, it'll replace my old 18V in a hurry.
Love this thing, I am an apprentice plumber that does new construction apartments. Alot of use of stud drills instead of hand drills as we need the torque, but alot of tools are getting in the baseline of using a corded makita stud drill which is standard for us.
There was something you guys missed, That I was hoping you guys would point out. On my DCD 999 When I use the clutch settings. 1 - 13 if I put it in clutch setting say 3 and Gearbox 1. The torque changes between gearbox settings. So, gear 1-2 and three all have a different torque. Even though you're in clutch setting three. I was really hoping you guys had noticed this and pointed out it's that whole electronic E-clutch. I really hate the E-clutch. Any other drill without an e-clutch when you put it in clutch one. It's a slip bearing type clutch, so it just slips. Every time at the same setting. These new electronic clutches do not do that. They constantly change. You could screw 5 screws and the torque will be different on all five of them. And then if you change gears, they're really different. Please Test this for yourselves, I would definitely buy one of these If I could go back to the old clutch style that would be an awesome drill. The other thing is, when the electronic clutch kicks in, it literally feels like the battery died. The way it dies, it's just a weird feeling. It's not like the old ones that slip, and they make the clicking sound. It's like it's a glitch like the electronics just burned out in your drill. If you do any type of woodworking, which is why I bought my DCD 999. I can't use it because the clutch settings are so inconsistent. I need something that slips at the same time every time. Maybe you could get the Dewalt to go back to the old-style clutches? Haha, I'll keep dreaming. But hey, you guys have influenced other companies.
That kickback protection is a wristsaver. I'm using thick french bolts into 4x4 pretty often, and that task needs this kind of watt output without using the hammer. I know the lads that climbs the telephone poles are using these tools as well, which up to this, only Bosch have the mustard for it. W or torque per db would be a handy stat too.
Don't lineman Almost exclusively use 7/16 high torque impact wrenches for even drilling holes and driving large screws/bolts? I know I would almost certainly fly off the ladder if I used a drill for that even with kickback protection! I mean, it still jerks before it stops.
Can you get your hands on a DCD130 at some point? I have one here, have been using it to mix 50lb bags of self leveling floor compound in buckets and it doesn't even sound like it will ever bog down at all, it might top your drill torque charts by a long shot.
I have several Dewalt tools, (older drills mostly) that have worked very well for 15+ years and as you know drive deck 4" Torx screws in their sleep. I have started running the Milwaukee battery platform as I prefer some of their tools. That being said what I have been seeing with various reviews is that Dewalt is no slouch so my keeping that battery platform was a good choice. Thank you for another clear review.
And here I was looking to pick.up a DCD805 in the next week or so. It seems like the 1007 is a direct successor to the 805 in some ways. This video couldn't have been uploaded at a better time,.thanks guys. I appreciate all the hard work you guys do. 🎉
Just waiting your very reliable and enjoyable tests in a near future of the 1007 combined with the all new powerpack 8Ah By the way, thank you again for indicating the equivalent torque and weight in metric units - a follower from Europe
I'm loving your content and the amount of effort you put into experimentation. I've been watching for about 6 months from London, thumbs up! I'm 18v Makita team FYI
Credit to Skil for being the first one I’m aware of that came out with the onboard work light mode on their power tools. Many of their lights are truly great. Kudos to Dewalt for stepping it up. TTI, your reply? What were the wires going to the gearbox for? Temp or speed sensor perhaps?
I still think you need to Have your viewers send in their used tools to get them dyno’d. I have an M18 impact that is absolutely abused, same with an M18 hammer drill. I would love to send you both Michael and see if they have survived
I'm good. The brushless one I have now damn near broke my wrist a couple of times when the hole saw and spade bits snag unexpectedly. Plenty powerful already
This drill reminds me of an older Dewalt 18v hammer drill that I have and keep around because it is so good. It is a 3 speed like this one, which is really good. The variable speed is linear without steps in the speed, unlike the newer Dewalt 20v tool that I have and a small drill centers in the chuck, unlike what happens with the newer drill. There is also something about the angle of the handle versus the chuck (or something) on this older drill which lends itself to being easy for me to drill perpendicular holes whereas that is harder for me to do with the newer drill. That newer drill I have is not up to the standard that I was expecting based on that older drill. Hopefully, this new drill, tested here, raises the bar back up to at least where it once was.
Now you guys need to get the NEW XR DCF 860 they are ADVERTISING it in AUSTRALIA for orders and I'm thinking about paying the PIPER and getting it shipped here for my UA-cam CHANNEL
Looks interesting! While I love my dcd805, this looks like a fun big brother to have around, as long as you've got newer battery tech to fuel it. But yeah, I feel like a lower first gear wouldn't have been a bad thing.
You can absolutely sit on that on that drill and not stall it out. Big ship augers, hole saws, heavy metal drilling, it's so much more than just a mixer.
I've had my hand pinned against a wall drilling using a old corded drill. I can't remember why now but it wasn't possible to be able to reverse the rotation and get free. It was a wrist breaker. I pulled a bit of skin off scrapping my hand away from between the drill and wall.
Better you advertise it for them. Dewalt is terrible at branding and advertising. They release competitive tools to milwaukee and I buy both now. But I wouldn't know about the latest models without channels like this.
I'm just going to say, i use my 9 amp hour on pretty much everything but the baby impact. 🤣 I like how that extra weight smooths out the operation. Thus, i appreciate seeing those numbers on everything lately
There has been a drill popping up in my suggestions lately, that's getting a lot of good reviews - DEKOPRO 1/2 Inch 580 ft lbs High Torque Brushless Electric Impact Wrench Driver, especially the more powerful one. Would love to see your professional unbiased take on it. Cheers and thanks for your service!
Can someone confirm if my thought process is correct? Measuring power at speed makes sense cause horsepower is torque times RPM, and horsepower and watts are the same thing, just different units, right?
Bingo. It's not really a horsepower dyno, as there's an extra step here with efficiency losses so it's more for comparison sake, but yes same principle
Kind of wish they'd release an update to the DCD 800/805 with a handle or the new kickback protection. Those are really the only functions that make me want this new one.
For years, I have always bought nice Dewalt drills. They have always had excessive amounts of power. They can't be very far from human wrists being the limiting factor for their power.
I'd like to see an addition to your drill test. Two high load continious test like driving thick and long screws into wooden beams at high speed (wattage what you think is realistic) and a test at 85% of the load before it stalls if that load is higher than the woodscrew test. If the tool overheats and what the battery has tk say about that. I mean high battery temps are certainly not good for durability.
I'm not sure how it ranks against my Makita, but even with the huge side handle fitted, when that thing bites, it hurts! I can't imagine anything with MORE power. I had the battery up against a file cabinet one day and it bit, and it flexed the handle and pushed the file cabinet a little bit and still magaed the sprain my wrist!
They really need safety overrides on all the drills. I used to always catch my carbide hole cutter when drilling electrical panels with the first generation M18 1/2" drill that was enormous and super powerful, and it always hurt when it would catch a tool and lock up. I think we are lucky we haven't been seriously injured. These new drills are scary powerful. I end up setting the clutch now when drilling with a metal hole saw, because metal hole saws tend to suddenly bite. BTW Klein foaming wire lube is the best drilling lubricant, it is a foam, so when it spills, you just wipe it up, and it doesn't leave residue or cause rust later.
Really expected more from that dewalt. For its size and how chunky it is it should smack milwakuee with torque but it might be the same story as it was with 961 torque wrench that wasn't really all that special as an unrealeased weapon.
I use my old 996 for large holes in steel and small holesaws in steel and wood. Those tasks are too much for a 796 or 800 etc. I also used to use my 996 with car scissor jacks, but my dcd130 now fulfills that role. I second my request for dcd130 and dcd470 and super haug tests. Pretty please?
More weight is more strength more thermal capacity more reliability, however my old 996 is still great despite a lot of serious abuse except the chuck which is its archilles heel, mainly because it's super difficult to replace. If this is equally hard to change then I guess it's at least not worse. Nice drill :-) more compelling to me than all thr 999 to 996 models in between
@@N1rOx hikoki is really the strongest in the world, bauforum24 youtube channel tested it, it has 86nm soft torque, it reaches this torque in one go without difficulty and it reaches this torque with its small structure.
I appreciate what you're doing here - I drill steel plate mostly, depending on the bit size, I have to use an extended handle longer than the one dewalt uses to control the torque (w/dewalt dcd999 - no clutch - on drill setting 1) - it can get dangerous - but watching your video, it seems like you're using just your arm to absorb the drill's torque w/ no side handle - in low gear 1 that drill would rip out of your hand, unless you were leaning down on it using a lot of body weight/serious arm strength - impact drills use the mechanical advantage of the hammers - rotary drills it's all about the leverage from the side handle - with no side handle, you better be a gorilla or your arm could break, or you get thrown - so explain how you're doing it - thx
Dewalt better be sandbagging with those numbers. Otherswise they made a big mistake with that first gear, again. They could have easly dropped those rpms super low. Heck, it has 3 gears for a reason lol
Hey TTC, this year with my tool allowance I’ve switched from Milwaukee to DeWalt, So far for impacts I’ve picked up the 850, 922, and the 961 along with a few of each PowerStack battery. I’m staring to think I should have gotten the 3/8 Atomic, (but I chose the 1/2 because of how much better the 1/2-3/8 adapter works compared to 3/8-1/2 adapters.) instead I’m looking to get another mid torque like the 891 that is easier to wield than the 961 to bridge the gap between their applications if you know what I mean. My question for you is: about 20 bolts into using my DCF961, I used it pointed down (impacting from above) with a 8” extension and for a moment it spun but failed to impact. Ever since then it works fine and destroys every socket I put on it, it massively out performs all of our 1” air guns(and our air system is much much bigger than yours shown in channel because we run a manufacturing facility on it lol) BUT IT SOUNDS KINDA CRUNCHY😅 By that I mean I’ve noticed it almost sounds and feels like there’s sand in the gears if you know what I mean? Does yours operate smoothly without the internals feeling and sounding a little poppy and crunchy/possibly bindy ? 😅
Also, I’ve just seen a video showing a pre-release of the ‘DCF860’…😢 pretty upsetting considering I’ve only had the 850 for a few months(and actually seriously enjoy using it,being so damn compact and light) Can’t wait to see it here so I can determine if I should upgrade 😅
I bought the Dewalt DCF891 "mid torque" based on this channel; it basically tests higher than anything in it's class. It's an absolutely scary, smooth beast. It removes lug nuts on vans and cars so easily, it's almost a joke. I even removed rear differential cover bolts on a 1 ton axle, and they were seriously over-tightened and they easily came out. I just removed brake calipers on a small compact car with it, and it fit under the fender well without any difficulty. The DCF891 looks better, and has better ergonomics than any brand of tool I've seen. I have Milwaukee tools, but there's no need to stick with (1) brand anymore, because batteries last for months in tools now.
I really want makita to make a refresh of their GPH01 40v drill, their GDT01 impact driver, and all 3 of their impact wrenches to top dewalt. Once we can get the BL4040F here in america, I would love to see you retest the 40V tools. We have been waiting forever for that battery :(
While the Milwaukee retains a peak torque advantage, it seems like this tool is designed to handle a load at speed. In practice, I imagine that might allow the Milwaukee to power through even tougher drilling tasks (e.g. massive holesaws in hardwood, oversized spade bits, etc.) without cutting out, yet Dewalt would presumably have the advantage in most tasks that don't stop it due to its ability to keep a higher working speed.
There are some practical limitations to the gear range you can achieve particularly when you have packaging size limits. More torque needs bigger gears
I’ve been debating on purchasing a Dewalt cordless ratchet because of the review you did but I’ve seen that there is a smaller version that looks faster and it’s the DCF500 have you seen it?
Hey TTC did you see that video of the DCF870. I would be interested in that unit too. The DCF860 appears to be shipping now.
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Dewalt or any of the companies; should be the first to up their hammer drill function, because lets face it: all the cordless 3 in one drills (drill,screw, hammer) the hammer function is near pubescent, which is ridiculous as it is such simple tech. I love my 20V xr Dewalt drill, I have it 10yrs in industry and use it hard and it is still good as well as the impact it came with (thou it's rough and abused on larger than common hardware often. The 3amp hr batteries without a voltage level check also still work fairly good after 10year-20v Dewalt batteries by far the best in the long haul. Pro's that know (many pro's are great but are clueless about tooling other than using it) use Yellow. Red is great but unpredictable, batteries last months and tools are all over the place quality wise. The rest don't have wide enough availability so getting what you need in a pinch is unreasonable.
What if you guys did a test for sockets? I know you have the 6 point versus 12 point and spline video but what if you did it the same format as your wrench videos? Take 1-2 sizes from a bunch of different brands and see which ones slip first, maybe how they grip on soft metal versus a hard one?
All this technology in power tools actually scares me.. Im really on the fence with it.. Its excellent in one hand, but in the other, now youve just got more stuff that will and can break.. I like being able to fix my own stuff, gone are the days of finding every part for a tool for reasonable money if you wanted it.. Now your parts diagrams for tools are motor/gearbox/electronics... You have to buy the complete assembly which often is so expensive you just end up not being able to repair it..
I know im 2 months late.... but there's one big design flaw that i hope they tweak. It has hammer capability, i dont know about anyone else but when i use the hammer function, i usually place my other hand on the back to help push.... right where the air inlet is for cooling.....
Hard disagree on less weight equals better for a drill. I’ve melted a an m18 fuel before because they try to make them all about peak power rather than an actual sustainable amount of power. There are a lot of standard 18V drills that get pressed into service running 4” hole saws even if they aren’t really designed for it. They compromise on motor size and cooling in the quest to make the lightest smallest drill. Kinda like if in an attempt to make semis lighter they used a 6.7 rather than an X15. A 6.7 can probably make the same power as an X15 but with probably 1/100th the reliability.
Have you brake tested the new metabo hpt dv36dc with the level feature and rfc but I’d have liked to have seen it and the Bosch but the mhpt in particular as that one I think that size wise it’s more a direct and probably more suited competitor of the new m18 drill
Dewalt may not like it but, I sure am happy for a sneak peek. Thanks for all your work guys!
That light is a genius feature, and reason enough to buy it. I bought my first Dewalt 20V tool after watching this channel, because the DCF891 impact was rated so highly in performance, and the other day I needed the light, and it worked perfectly for removing lug nuts in the dark. I could see that light on the drill being useful for actually working on panels and things, when you forget your light.
I'm sure they could do something about it if they really cared.
@@starseeddeluxe Same, I was looking for something to make my casual car work easier and that's how I got my DCF921 and I couldn't be happier with it. This channel is amazing, combined with ShopToolReviews, I feel like I'm getting a good rundown
You should retest in hammer drill mode.
The 999 has a sensor in the collar and increases output in hammer mode. The 1007 appears to have this sensor too. (wire to gearbox)
Not sure why they do this, but it's even on the sticker. 2000 -> 2200 rpm. You can 'trick' the drill by shifting back to regular drill without releasing the trigger.
Also, I'm case you didn't see my previous comment, but a Megastack flexvolt (3 x 5PS) would make an interesting homemade battery.
Keep up the great content!!
Powervolt? Flexstack? Powerflex? Flexpower? A sandwich like that would be pretty insane :-D
It comes with a "powerPACK" 8 ah battery
Literally my favorite part of Friday's!!
I'm watching this 60 minutes in the future and its still not released yet
You r just sooo clever Oh Great One Chris! 😆
This is good data!
It will be released in August
@@jeremysuit6957 how you know?
Youre the reason why i have a dcf961 with 9ah flexvolt. So now im gonna replace my old red 2656-20 with this guy when it comes out.
Best thing about this you didnt touch on is the side handle. It has notches in it now and not smooth. The old handle would wear out and not keep a good rotational grip on the drill making for some sketchy moments while using an ice auger.
Great testing as usual. Cordless drills are incredible strong these days. It would be interesting to see what kind of numbers big plumbing drills make. Like Superholehawk and Dewalts big right angle drills. Maybe video idea for future? Keep up the good work :)
@TorqueTestChannel I have the Makita XGT right angle drill if you want to borrow it. Was going to wait to offer until the BL4040F is released stateside, but if you'd like it sooner that's fine.
Edit: lol how do I @?
i had to drill some 2 1/2 inch holes through steel to run some conduit . the big dewalt cordless almost broke my wrist because the aux handle was plastic. it would pop off and then my right hand tough the twist . ouch . got out my 1/2 inch dewalt corded drill with the metal aux handle and was able to drill the holes no problem. so i'm not sold on cordless for tough jobs and grabby jobs. the corded drill doesn't protect itself by shutting off suddenly . it's momentum carries it through .
@@ronblack7870 You need one with the kickback (or what ever it's called) protection. Older Dewalt did not have it and like mine would just break your wrist. In a couple reviews seen it seems Dewalt has incorporated this feature now. (or use another brand that has it)
You guys are heros for testing all these tools and giving us common folk the raw numbers. God bless you.
now just need to get your hands on the dcf 860
And the dcf 870 compared to the surge
And the DCF893
@@andrestoodrip6616... and with the new powerpack 8 Ah
Whats the dcf893?
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Its great when you guys get your hands on tools before they're released. Have you ever considered testing battery powered mud mixers and large right angle drills, even if just to compare to the more traditional drills
"Without [DeWalt's] knowledge" 😚 Nothing beats free advertisement!!!
Everything on this channel is free advertisement if the tool does well. We buy everyone's, so make a good tool and we're going to by our channel description give it free marketing. What brands aren't so keen on is debuting an item before they intend to, which hurts sales of their current offerings for a longer period of time while it's not out if the tool does well, and if it does poorly it's probably too close to release to change anything about it. I'm sure they'd all rather have a review of a tool when someone can add it to cart.
The amount of copyright strikes, demonetizations and our rank chart offerings being removed from other website due to outside brand pressure would heavily imply they are not all on board with this sort of thing.
@@TorqueTestChannel i appreciate you guys putting these to the test, and ya, it makes sense if you get a preproduction model and put it through the paces that the company may not like it. It might still have some tweaks they are working on. Granted, I understand your sources probably tell you "this is the final version and will hit market at X time" or something like that. But, I gotta say, Dewalt hasnt really been failing since 2020. I dont know who put a bee in their bonnet, but we as consumers have been reaping the benefits because of it!
@@sabrevanson4412 Oh, we don't have any sources on it. Field testers are incredibly blind to any details about these things. We have to eventually buy the retail tool and double check.
@@TorqueTestChannelLegends the lot of you - not to be the "um ackshually" guy about spelling but an easy way to remember how to spell copyright is that it refers to the right to copy something. Copywriting has its etymological roots in "copy" referring to "edition" e.g. today's "copy" of the newspaper - so a copywriter describes someone who writes the copy (edition). Best I can tell, in the early days of printed media there was no distinction between people who wrote adverts and what we call journalists today - hence the umbrella term "copywriter"
Your one of few people putting out quality information on products that is beneficial for the consumer, over the manufacturer or retailer. Thank you. You have saved me money and also guided my actual purchase decisions.
Maybe it's my M12-appreciating ways, but I favor the Milwaukee design priorities (torque and size/weight). Glad to see DeWalt keeping them honest the last couple years. There was a while there where nobody seemed remotely close. Competition is good and DeWalt is turning out hit after hit.
I've never liked the M12 tools from Milwaukee. I'm not Norwegian or Viking or Dutch, so I don't have the enormous Brock Lesnar hands. M12 tools are incredibly "bulbous" and not nimble. I ended up with Dewalt 12 volt tools because the handle diameter is so small, the tools feel tiny and nimble as a 12 volt tool is expected. But M12 is loved by all, and I'm in the minority. I have average size hands, but most of the people I know who use the M12, they have unusually strong hands, to the point that one of my (M12 obsessed) coworkers frequently snapped cutters in half by accident when squeezing them with his grip, something I didn't think was possible.
I like to buy tools as I need em, so I have light weight not powerhouse drills and such, and want a powerhouse for my need to put in 12 inch lag bolts and such
I have very big hands and still prefer the dewalt grips on thex12v and 18v systems!
One metric I am always interested in with these drill/drivers is slowest possible speed. It's the reason I still reach for my old brushed DCD950 over my impact drivers any day. Sometimes you need that finesse to drive a screw that 1/4 turn (or less) further, and most drivers just can't do that. If this new DeWalt can, it'll replace my old 18V in a hurry.
Love this thing, I am an apprentice plumber that does new construction apartments. Alot of use of stud drills instead of hand drills as we need the torque, but alot of tools are getting in the baseline of using a corded makita stud drill which is standard for us.
There was something you guys missed, That I was hoping you guys would point out. On my DCD 999 When I use the clutch settings. 1 - 13 if I put it in clutch setting say 3 and Gearbox 1. The torque changes between gearbox settings. So, gear 1-2 and three all have a different torque. Even though you're in clutch setting three. I was really hoping you guys had noticed this and pointed out it's that whole electronic E-clutch. I really hate the E-clutch. Any other drill without an e-clutch when you put it in clutch one. It's a slip bearing type clutch, so it just slips. Every time at the same setting. These new electronic clutches do not do that. They constantly change. You could screw 5 screws and the torque will be different on all five of them. And then if you change gears, they're really different. Please Test this for yourselves, I would definitely buy one of these If I could go back to the old clutch style that would be an awesome drill. The other thing is, when the electronic clutch kicks in, it literally feels like the battery died. The way it dies, it's just a weird feeling. It's not like the old ones that slip, and they make the clicking sound. It's like it's a glitch like the electronics just burned out in your drill. If you do any type of woodworking, which is why I bought my DCD 999. I can't use it because the clutch settings are so inconsistent. I need something that slips at the same time every time. Maybe you could get the Dewalt to go back to the old-style clutches? Haha, I'll keep dreaming. But hey, you guys have influenced other companies.
I will Always Prefer DeWalt over all because it's always been there for me ❤️
That kickback protection is a wristsaver. I'm using thick french bolts into 4x4 pretty often, and that task needs this kind of watt output without using the hammer. I know the lads that climbs the telephone poles are using these tools as well, which up to this, only Bosch have the mustard for it. W or torque per db would be a handy stat too.
Don't lineman Almost exclusively use 7/16 high torque impact wrenches for even drilling holes and driving large screws/bolts? I know I would almost certainly fly off the ladder if I used a drill for that even with kickback protection! I mean, it still jerks before it stops.
Would love to see the Makita / Bosch / Milwaukee / Ridgid / Metabo rankings updated with the new tabless batteries!!
Can you get your hands on a DCD130 at some point? I have one here, have been using it to mix 50lb bags of self leveling floor compound in buckets and it doesn't even sound like it will ever bog down at all, it might top your drill torque charts by a long shot.
I have several Dewalt tools, (older drills mostly) that have worked very well for 15+ years and as you know drive deck 4" Torx screws in their sleep. I have started running the Milwaukee battery platform as I prefer some of their tools. That being said what I have been seeing with various reviews is that Dewalt is no slouch so my keeping that battery platform was a good choice. Thank you for another clear review.
Will you be retesting this with the now released package offering with the 8ah xr powerpack?
And here I was looking to pick.up a DCD805 in the next week or so. It seems like the 1007 is a direct successor to the 805 in some ways. This video couldn't have been uploaded at a better time,.thanks guys. I appreciate all the hard work you guys do. 🎉
1007 feels twice the size of an 805
yeah it looks pretty big. the 805 is an atomic series drill though
Wrong.Successor to 999
Just waiting your very reliable and enjoyable tests in a near future of the 1007 combined with the all new powerpack 8Ah
By the way, thank you again for indicating the equivalent torque and weight in metric units
- a follower from Europe
I'm loving your content and the amount of effort you put into experimentation. I've been watching for about 6 months from London, thumbs up! I'm 18v Makita team FYI
Credit to Skil for being the first one I’m aware of that came out with the onboard work light mode on their power tools. Many of their lights are truly great. Kudos to Dewalt for stepping it up. TTI, your reply?
What were the wires going to the gearbox for? Temp or speed sensor perhaps?
I’ve really been liking this new DeWalt Dynasty
I still think you need to Have your viewers send in their used tools to get them dyno’d. I have an M18 impact that is absolutely abused, same with an M18 hammer drill. I would love to send you both Michael and see if they have survived
I'm good. The brushless one I have now damn near broke my wrist a couple of times when the hole saw and spade bits snag unexpectedly. Plenty powerful already
The DCD 800 & 805 also have the fancy LED swivel light.
indeed, my DCD805 is great.
Interesting
All that was left was to thank the Brazilian channel for the images included in the video. #agradeceaoassis
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I still use my dads old corded beast. When it's needed, it's time to break something or break myself trying
This drill reminds me of an older Dewalt 18v hammer drill that I have and keep around because it is so good. It is a 3 speed like this one, which is really good. The variable speed is linear without steps in the speed, unlike the newer Dewalt 20v tool that I have and a small drill centers in the chuck, unlike what happens with the newer drill. There is also something about the angle of the handle versus the chuck (or something) on this older drill which lends itself to being easy for me to drill perpendicular holes whereas that is harder for me to do with the newer drill. That newer drill I have is not up to the standard that I was expecting based on that older drill. Hopefully, this new drill, tested here, raises the bar back up to at least where it once was.
Look forward to getting that protect feature. Thanks!
Now you guys need to get the NEW XR DCF 860 they are ADVERTISING it in AUSTRALIA for orders and I'm thinking about paying the PIPER and getting it shipped here for my UA-cam CHANNEL
Looks interesting! While I love my dcd805, this looks like a fun big brother to have around, as long as you've got newer battery tech to fuel it. But yeah, I feel like a lower first gear wouldn't have been a bad thing.
New favorite tool channel.
Hey TTC, I'd love to see you test the DeWalt DCD130b drill. It is a beast, and often gets used to drive ground augers.
You can absolutely sit on that on that drill and not stall it out. Big ship augers, hole saws, heavy metal drilling, it's so much more than just a mixer.
I've had my hand pinned against a wall drilling using a old corded drill. I can't remember why now but it wasn't possible to be able to reverse the rotation and get free. It was a wrist breaker. I pulled a bit of skin off scrapping my hand away from between the drill and wall.
Been there Done that a few tomes for sure! As an Electrician, A Corded Drill still has a purpose sometimes.🤣
Better you advertise it for them. Dewalt is terrible at branding and advertising. They release competitive tools to milwaukee and I buy both now. But I wouldn't know about the latest models without channels like this.
I'm just going to say, i use my 9 amp hour on pretty much everything but the baby impact. 🤣
I like how that extra weight smooths out the operation.
Thus, i appreciate seeing those numbers on everything lately
This
Awesome! That new electronic Load looks nice too! 👍
We're getting promotional material of a soon to be released new DeWALT impact driver here in Australia.
Test the DEWALT and Milwaukee mud drills to see how they rank
DeWalt has really stepped up their game lately.
Almost makes me annoyed that I'm invested in Makita LXT which seems a bit stagnant.
Mine was delivered today from Fleet and Farm
There has been a drill popping up in my suggestions lately, that's getting a lot of good reviews - DEKOPRO 1/2 Inch 580 ft lbs High Torque Brushless Electric Impact Wrench Driver, especially the more powerful one. Would love to see your professional unbiased take on it. Cheers and thanks for your service!
Any plans on an update with the kitted 8ah powerpack?
very interested to see too!
Just picked mine up today, it came with an 8 amp hour XR battery.
The new GOAT for drilling holes with an ice auger.
Why would Dewalt be upset?
They should putting your reviews on their box!
Can someone confirm if my thought process is correct?
Measuring power at speed makes sense cause horsepower is torque times RPM, and horsepower and watts are the same thing, just different units, right?
Bingo. It's not really a horsepower dyno, as there's an extra step here with efficiency losses so it's more for comparison sake, but yes same principle
It’s not 😯 😆
Kind of wish they'd release an update to the DCD 800/805 with a handle or the new kickback protection. Those are really the only functions that make me want this new one.
For years, I have always bought nice Dewalt drills. They have always had excessive amounts of power. They can't be very far from human wrists being the limiting factor for their power.
999 is an awesome drill with 6 or 9 flexvolt
I'd like to see an addition to your drill test.
Two high load continious test like driving thick and long screws into wooden beams at high speed (wattage what you think is realistic) and a test at 85% of the load before it stalls if that load is higher than the woodscrew test.
If the tool overheats and what the battery has tk say about that. I mean high battery temps are certainly not good for durability.
U need the new powerstack xr 8ah battery an see how much power the drill has
I'm not sure how it ranks against my Makita, but even with the huge side handle fitted, when that thing bites, it hurts! I can't imagine anything with MORE power. I had the battery up against a file cabinet one day and it bit, and it flexed the handle and pushed the file cabinet a little bit and still magaed the sprain my wrist!
They really need safety overrides on all the drills. I used to always catch my carbide hole cutter when drilling electrical panels with the first generation M18 1/2" drill that was enormous and super powerful, and it always hurt when it would catch a tool and lock up. I think we are lucky we haven't been seriously injured. These new drills are scary powerful. I end up setting the clutch now when drilling with a metal hole saw, because metal hole saws tend to suddenly bite. BTW Klein foaming wire lube is the best drilling lubricant, it is a foam, so when it spills, you just wipe it up, and it doesn't leave residue or cause rust later.
New video right before i take lunch? Hell yeah!
Really expected more from that dewalt. For its size and how chunky it is it should smack milwakuee with torque but it might be the same story as it was with 961 torque wrench that wasn't really all that special as an unrealeased weapon.
I use my old 996 for large holes in steel and small holesaws in steel and wood. Those tasks are too much for a 796 or 800 etc. I also used to use my 996 with car scissor jacks, but my dcd130 now fulfills that role. I second my request for dcd130 and dcd470 and super haug tests. Pretty please?
Hope you guys got some of the high output Makita batteries while you where in japan!!
good point :)
More weight is more strength more thermal capacity more reliability, however my old 996 is still great despite a lot of serious abuse except the chuck which is its archilles heel, mainly because it's super difficult to replace. If this is equally hard to change then I guess it's at least not worse. Nice drill :-) more compelling to me than all thr 999 to 996 models in between
Try the newest Hikoki/Metabo HPT drill aswell! Rated at 155nm.
Soft torque 100nm
@@bahadryldz2346 yes it is.
@@N1rOx hikoki is really the strongest in the world, bauforum24 youtube channel tested it, it has 86nm soft torque, it reaches this torque in one go without difficulty and it reaches this torque with its small structure.
@@N1rOxSo this drill can not be used ocasionaly for more delicate work ? 100 Nm is a lot of torque
@@fancraft1266 all modern drills have a slip clutch with variable speed trigger. They are excellent for delicate work.
DeWalt may not like it, but TTC just sold me on one.
"ZU" isn't any kind of branding, it's German for "close", i.e. it's telling you which direction to turn the Chuck to close the Jaws.
Haha this is amazing. I've always seen ZU on German chucks and never made the connection
Did you use the forge battery on the m18?
Another great episode thank you
I appreciate what you're doing here - I drill steel plate mostly, depending on the bit size, I have to use an extended handle longer than the one dewalt uses to control the torque (w/dewalt dcd999 - no clutch - on drill setting 1) - it can get dangerous - but watching your video, it seems like you're using just your arm to absorb the drill's torque w/ no side handle - in low gear 1 that drill would rip out of your hand, unless you were leaning down on it using a lot of body weight/serious arm strength - impact drills use the mechanical advantage of the hammers - rotary drills it's all about the leverage from the side handle - with no side handle, you better be a gorilla or your arm could break, or you get thrown - so explain how you're doing it - thx
Dewalt better be sandbagging with those numbers. Otherswise they made a big mistake with that first gear, again.
They could have easly dropped those rpms super low. Heck, it has 3 gears for a reason lol
Hope you guys can get you hands on the DCF860 and DCF870 soon
Hey TTC, this year with my tool allowance I’ve switched from Milwaukee to DeWalt, So far for impacts I’ve picked up the 850, 922, and the 961 along with a few of each PowerStack battery. I’m staring to think I should have gotten the 3/8 Atomic, (but I chose the 1/2 because of how much better the 1/2-3/8 adapter works compared to 3/8-1/2 adapters.) instead I’m looking to get another mid torque like the 891 that is easier to wield than the 961 to bridge the gap between their applications if you know what I mean.
My question for you is: about 20 bolts into using my DCF961, I used it pointed down (impacting from above) with a 8” extension and for a moment it spun but failed to impact. Ever since then it works fine and destroys every socket I put on it, it massively out performs all of our 1” air guns(and our air system is much much bigger than yours shown in channel because we run a manufacturing facility on it lol) BUT IT SOUNDS KINDA CRUNCHY😅 By that I mean I’ve noticed it almost sounds and feels like there’s sand in the gears if you know what I mean? Does yours operate smoothly without the internals feeling and sounding a little poppy and crunchy/possibly bindy ? 😅
Also, I’ve just seen a video showing a pre-release of the ‘DCF860’…😢 pretty upsetting considering I’ve only had the 850 for a few months(and actually seriously enjoy using it,being so damn compact and light) Can’t wait to see it here so I can determine if I should upgrade 😅
I bought the Dewalt DCF891 "mid torque" based on this channel; it basically tests higher than anything in it's class. It's an absolutely scary, smooth beast. It removes lug nuts on vans and cars so easily, it's almost a joke. I even removed rear differential cover bolts on a 1 ton axle, and they were seriously over-tightened and they easily came out. I just removed brake calipers on a small compact car with it, and it fit under the fender well without any difficulty. The DCF891 looks better, and has better ergonomics than any brand of tool I've seen. I have Milwaukee tools, but there's no need to stick with (1) brand anymore, because batteries last for months in tools now.
I really want makita to make a refresh of their GPH01 40v drill, their GDT01 impact driver, and all 3 of their impact wrenches to top dewalt. Once we can get the BL4040F here in america, I would love to see you retest the 40V tools. We have been waiting forever for that battery :(
They’re using their 1/2” mid torque motors on these drills now! No joke. The tuning is obviously different though.
While the Milwaukee retains a peak torque advantage, it seems like this tool is designed to handle a load at speed.
In practice, I imagine that might allow the Milwaukee to power through even tougher drilling tasks (e.g. massive holesaws in hardwood, oversized spade bits, etc.) without cutting out, yet Dewalt would presumably have the advantage in most tasks that don't stop it due to its ability to keep a higher working speed.
It's kind of crazy they didn't drop those rpms super low for massive torque. They have 3 gears and don't take advantage of it lol
There are some practical limitations to the gear range you can achieve particularly when you have packaging size limits. More torque needs bigger gears
Now it's in a kit with the 8ah powerpack, which should perform similar to the 9ah flexvolt considering it has 21700 cells and is going to be tabless
its a bit bulky but strong as plenty of grunt behind it i like it besides my 996,999 yep
Can you dyno the dewalt flexvolt mixer/drill? Dcd130? That thing is epic, I have it. Would also be cool to see the dcd470 vs the super haug m18.
That 9 amp hr flex on my flex advantage grinder will last all day an grind like a corded grinder
I’ve been debating on purchasing a Dewalt cordless ratchet because of the review you did but I’ve seen that there is a smaller version that looks faster and it’s the DCF500 have you seen it?
Hey TTC did you see that video of the DCF870. I would be interested in that unit too. The DCF860 appears to be shipping now.
Dewalt or any of the companies; should be the first to up their hammer drill function, because lets face it: all the cordless 3 in one drills (drill,screw, hammer) the hammer function is near pubescent, which is ridiculous as it is such simple tech. I love my 20V xr Dewalt drill, I have it 10yrs in industry and use it hard and it is still good as well as the impact it came with (thou it's rough and abused on larger than common hardware often. The 3amp hr batteries without a voltage level check also still work fairly good after 10year-20v Dewalt batteries by far the best in the long haul. Pro's that know (many pro's are great but are clueless about tooling other than using it) use Yellow. Red is great but unpredictable, batteries last months and tools are all over the place quality wise. The rest don't have wide enough availability so getting what you need in a pinch is unreasonable.
What if you guys did a test for sockets? I know you have the 6 point versus 12 point and spline video but what if you did it the same format as your wrench videos? Take 1-2 sizes from a bunch of different brands and see which ones slip first, maybe how they grip on soft metal versus a hard one?
Need to do a break down of how the mellif tools are. They keep coming out with new ones
Looking forward to its release, buying one
All this technology in power tools actually scares me.. Im really on the fence with it.. Its excellent in one hand, but in the other, now youve just got more stuff that will and can break.. I like being able to fix my own stuff, gone are the days of finding every part for a tool for reasonable money if you wanted it.. Now your parts diagrams for tools are motor/gearbox/electronics... You have to buy the complete assembly which often is so expensive you just end up not being able to repair it..
It's got VTEC!
I know im 2 months late.... but there's one big design flaw that i hope they tweak. It has hammer capability, i dont know about anyone else but when i use the hammer function, i usually place my other hand on the back to help push.... right where the air inlet is for cooling.....
Can’t wait for that dcf860 or it’s Frankenstein. You can get it in Australia and from what I’ve seen this far, it will be the 961 of impact drivers.
As far as I can tell, in Australia you can preorder it, but it isn't in stock anywhere yet.
True, just saw an Aussie compare it to the 850 and it smashed.
Hard disagree on less weight equals better for a drill. I’ve melted a an m18 fuel before because they try to make them all about peak power rather than an actual sustainable amount of power. There are a lot of standard 18V drills that get pressed into service running 4” hole saws even if they aren’t really designed for it. They compromise on motor size and cooling in the quest to make the lightest smallest drill. Kinda like if in an attempt to make semis lighter they used a 6.7 rather than an X15. A 6.7 can probably make the same power as an X15 but with probably 1/100th the reliability.
when are you gonna test the 8ah power pack, or is there a video i missed, I’d like to see how it compares to the other batteries
DCF 860 vs DCF 870 !!!
Have you brake tested the new metabo hpt dv36dc with the level feature and rfc but I’d have liked to have seen it and the Bosch but the mhpt in particular as that one I think that size wise it’s more a direct and probably more suited competitor of the new m18 drill
Really want to see the test done with the new 8ah PowerPack battery.
I know y’all do impacts and stuff, but you ever think about doing chain saws. Like electric chain saws?
Be nice to see the new 20v XR tabless 8 ah stack up against the yellow / black DCB609 - FLexvolt 9 ah MAX please
they just announced that it comes with the new 8.0 amp hr powerstack so i hope you end up testing it with that.
Cant wait to bug my Mac guy about this lmao
I need this in my life! Unfortunately I am broke so back to the Parkside cave...
Between these guys and PF they sure need to collab on something..
It might not make them happy but they sure do seem to have a lot more leaks than other companies