Theology and Sectarianism

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  • Опубліковано 29 тра 2023
  • I was shocked to discover just how deeply sectarianism has penetrated into all theological schools. Sectarianism is the leading cause of Muslim backwardness.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 110

  • @umarsoomro8031
    @umarsoomro8031 Рік тому +10

    Sir, the concerns you have are similar to that of mine. You highlighted them in your UA-cam channel; I do it in my friends circle. I, most of the time, find myself unable to convince people. These ideas, propagated by Fatwas, are so well-entrenched in people's minds that they are not even ready to hear the other side of the story. How come in such an environment one can convince them? I am looking for a solution to this issue. I have very high hopes that you will definitely chart a plan by which we combinely counter the issue.

    • @george4vIogging
      @george4vIogging Рік тому +3

      Generations of ignorance and brain washing has had its effects.

    • @sairaqureshi8470
      @sairaqureshi8470 Рік тому +3

      There’s no solution in our lifetime. Our next generation will be different from us InshaAllah. Things will be different after at least 30 yrs

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому

      Most relegion are idiotic to believe and Orthodox it doesnt free your mind but bind it with limited holy books mainly in islam cauz it doesn't got evolved like Christians and Judaism did till now !! Idea of relegion just limit your mind to one thing people should be fluid take idea from everyone and make best out of it but abrahmic relegion made this impossible to happen especially islam

  • @rymaustudio5683
    @rymaustudio5683 Рік тому +4

    Great lecture. You proved engineer Muhammad Ali mirza right.

  • @vedmukherjee8715
    @vedmukherjee8715 Рік тому +22

    Stay safe sir , you are getting into the danger zone

    • @Nat-Con
      @Nat-Con Рік тому +3

      Indians need not lecture us about what we can or cannot say. Go take care of manipur

    • @AnweR-AmmaR
      @AnweR-AmmaR Рік тому

      @@Nat-Con Every thing all Right brother..

    • @mohammadimran8705
      @mohammadimran8705 Рік тому +2

      سر ایک بار پھر آپکی علمی کاوش اور محنت کو سلام کرے گے ❤

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому

      ​@@Nat-Con it's been taking care of !! There is not pakistani army there😂😂😂

    • @tqm790
      @tqm790 Рік тому

      ​@@Nat-Con you endorse what Sir is saying.... Excellent

  • @samarfatima1348
    @samarfatima1348 Рік тому +2

    great job sir...please continue making such useful videos❤

  • @babarazam900
    @babarazam900 Рік тому +2

    Brave hero, you are, sir. putting your life at stake by unfolding such truths that we needed to hear ❤
    Love you❤🎉

  • @KhawarAbbas-mm2sc
    @KhawarAbbas-mm2sc Рік тому +4

    Stay safe Sir you are actually telling the truth.❤️

  • @chemophile14
    @chemophile14 Рік тому +1

    Sir, it's the biggest tragedy in Pakistan. First, they passed a resolution of blasphemy of Sahaba, and later on, getting an opportunity, they themselves hung objectionable stuff against sahaba on the dog's neck. And blamed the opponents. Luckily, the investigation report showed that they themselves were involved in that conspiracy. Still, we think democracy will work in our society. These 5 years, temporary politicians are puppets and shouldn't have any power. Establishment and army are fine for our society. Regarding sectarian, my opinion is like that; we have got Islam through two different ways: one through politician/darbari system/raaja system/kingdoms/monarchy, another through suppressed group of people, who always were killed or poisoned by the monarch for showing the real face of Islam.

  • @zaheerhassan1574
    @zaheerhassan1574 Рік тому +1

    Dr Sb, our education and social system encourage blind faith in religious scholars and on top of it our education system don’t encourage critical thinking

  • @harikhani
    @harikhani Рік тому +4

    Great lecture ❤ stay bless and safe ❤

  • @mushtaqueqazi5970
    @mushtaqueqazi5970 Рік тому +4

    Actually the reason for sectarianism in religion is quite simple, the moment u start using ur intellect to understand something it will cause bifurcation and divide bcz our intellect is essentially a cutting instrument which we use to dissect things in order to analyse them.

  • @shazianaqvee4108
    @shazianaqvee4108 Рік тому +2

    Dear Taimur Sahib, kindly speak about the importance of religion in modern times (current and future) for commoners. Thanks in anticipation.

  • @mukeshpunnu5888
    @mukeshpunnu5888 Рік тому +4

    आपके विचारों को हिंदुस्तान मे भी समझा जा रहा है❤❤

  • @sheikhahmad1560
    @sheikhahmad1560 Рік тому +1

    Sir i have a request for you, kindly make playlists on consciousness, reality and Evolution (i have watched a video of yours on Evolution but it's not satisfying, So, kindly make a detailed playlist on it with both scientific and religious explanation and in the end, always give your own opinion to it.)

  • @Gsinghmahal
    @Gsinghmahal Рік тому +2

    Great massage ❤

  • @sairaqureshi8470
    @sairaqureshi8470 Рік тому +3

    Everyone and everybody wants Peace, Justice and Prosperity in the country and whoever brings it is welcome and my vote is for them

  • @AJC1988
    @AJC1988 Рік тому +2

    Great job Sir. stay safe

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому +2

    Very good lecture ❤

  • @MujahidKhan-lp6gw
    @MujahidKhan-lp6gw Рік тому +1

    AOA
    Sir I am interested in philosophy kindly suggest me some books.

  • @user-ny7by3ds5d
    @user-ny7by3ds5d Рік тому +2

    AOA sir g love you❤❤. Allah lambe Omar de❤❤

  • @zaheerhassan1574
    @zaheerhassan1574 Рік тому

    This is extremely sad and disturbing, agony is main stream political parties never made any serious effort to stop it

  • @MdWasim-mk2dn
    @MdWasim-mk2dn Рік тому +2

    ❤ great lecture

  • @sairaqureshi8470
    @sairaqureshi8470 Рік тому +1

    You raised a very good and valid question…… What is the definition of a ‘ Muslim’ ?

  • @sarkarhaider
    @sarkarhaider Рік тому +2

    Very good and meaningful clip Taimoor sahab hope your audience understand your take
    What is the reason for this dangerous confusion yesterday a pakistani Aalim Mufti fazal hamdard has posted an important video in which he proves how Entire Deen was changed within 25 years of Prophetic Wafat
    What we have today are actually ISOMERS of Islam carefully crafted to condition muslims into believing theirs is the right version

    • @nacpatil
      @nacpatil Рік тому +2

      its simply because violence was legitimized before his death by guess whom?

    • @nacpatil
      @nacpatil Рік тому +1

      @Syedbakeruddin Bekar You are assuming in this context or in general that there was and is a true path! May be it might be just fable to begin with!

  • @PR-pu7pv
    @PR-pu7pv Рік тому +3

    The speech given is showing ground reality of religion. The religion is being used for making foolish to the poor and making clever to rulers.

  • @TechTalkXplore
    @TechTalkXplore Рік тому +3

    Religion is a tool to manipulate innocent people,
    That's why Technology, Program is not equal to Religion, or conservative thinking,
    Pakistan will make progress when it's declared as Pure secular state,

  • @AhmadRaza-gm7pd
    @AhmadRaza-gm7pd Рік тому +1

    sir we need you, please keep yourself out of things which could lead you into a risky situation. I don't think the people will understand what you are trying to explain to them. They have closed their eyes and ears. I'm optimistic but I don't think it's an approach that can be successful especially here in this country. Thank you for sharing the revealing facts tho.

  • @On-su7el
    @On-su7el Рік тому +1

    سب حوالے کمنٹ باکس میں لکھ دیں اگر ہو سکے۔ بہترین تحقیق

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому

    38:29 agreed with you Sir…..only those countries can develop which can adopt scientific reasoning……..

  • @ashrafkhan-pl2rz
    @ashrafkhan-pl2rz Рік тому +2

    You are great 👍

  • @myaiperspective
    @myaiperspective Рік тому

    Thank you.

  • @divyanshsh
    @divyanshsh Рік тому +2

    enlightening

  • @MuhammadIbrahim-fu3lx
    @MuhammadIbrahim-fu3lx Рік тому +1

    Sir i appreciate your work but through one or two fatwas from book concluding that this is believe of that sect is wrong and by doing this you are distorting the picture of reality. Given the complexity and diversity of religious sects, it is crucial to exercise caution when drawing conclusions based on limited information. It would be prudent to delve deeper into the theological perspectives and scholarly discourses of the sect in question before making definitive judgments about their beliefs.Engaging in comprehensive research and dialogue with scholars from different sects can help foster a more accurate understanding of their beliefs and practices. This approach ensures a fair and nuanced assessment of diverse religious perspectives while avoiding misconceptions or misrepresentations.

  • @ms_ADAM
    @ms_ADAM Рік тому +2

    فرقہ واریت کینسر ہے اور کینسر لاعلاج ہے.
    اس سب کے باوجود اگر ہم مسلمان ہیں تو یہ الله - خالق کا خاص احسان ہے.
    دل سے الله اور رسول کو مانیں یہی اسلام ہے یہی ایمان ہے (کسی فرقے اور کسی شخصیت کا شکار نہ بنیں.)
    All the best👍

    • @WarisAli-xo8ck
      @WarisAli-xo8ck Рік тому

      Indeed.

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому

      You can't apply the rules of book from 1400 yrs ago it's common sense ya respect is there for prophet but many ideas are outdated just pick which are amazing and leave the rest!! That's how society evolve with time !! And i hope it changes with time!! I can see hope in middle East let's see what happen to Pakistan

  • @rmnair90
    @rmnair90 11 місяців тому

    The glorious period of Islamic science and philosophy occurred in lands where there were greek and roman colonies. It was natural to fear "infection" from these defeated civilizations and take steps to prevent it.
    Can Islamic countries in Africa and in Southeast Asia justifiably claim credit for the thoughts of the Mu’tazilites? It would be like catholics in India feeling proud of the Sistine Chapel or the great cathedrals of Europe or its great universities.

  • @dharmendrayadav-um4iv
    @dharmendrayadav-um4iv Рік тому +2

    Grt video

  • @aliwaheed906
    @aliwaheed906 Рік тому +2

    Ap par bhi fatwa aane waala kuch dino mein, naala bandh lein :D
    Jokes aside, quite an enlightening message, thanks for sharing.

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому

    Why we are so backward is very clear…… we have made unimportant things very important and very important things unimportant….. like modern logical education….😢

  • @altafbhatti2547
    @altafbhatti2547 Рік тому

    You r right sir

  • @Truthbeliever34446
    @Truthbeliever34446 Рік тому +1

    If I'm not wrong
    The four school of thoughts
    Hanfi,Shafi,hanbali,Maliki accept each other and these make the clear majority of ummah

  • @pschhu
    @pschhu Рік тому +1

    Do not tell lies regarding lynching in India. Very few cases was there justice is there to take care of it. Now it is informed to police.

  • @muhammadfaizankhan150
    @muhammadfaizankhan150 Рік тому +1

    Aulad-e-Rasool (SAWW) k sath jo hua kash ap is baat ka bhi zikr karte...Khud Rasoolullah (SAWW) ko zehr dia gaya aur phir 11 naslon tak qatal kia jata raha...aur phir ye silsila aaj bhi jari hai...
    Baqi in mein se boht aise hain jinho ne khud doosron per fatway lagaye thay aur baaz to genocide mein involve bhi rahe hain...

  • @ISknowledge7299
    @ISknowledge7299 Рік тому

    Proud to be Muslim & Pakistani No Firqawariat!

  • @nvd_ub
    @nvd_ub Рік тому +1

    I agree with most of your ideas Dr. Sahab and I like that you're trying to inculcate critical thinking and reasoning among the masses through your work. However, I disagree with your black and white comparison of science and theology, science being accepting and evolving while theology being frozen in time. If u look deeply into how theology develops and how different sects emerge, you'll see that it's very much rooted in the historical context and a product of its time. It's not like someday someone gets up and just comes up with a new sect or a different theology. Theology is very dynamic and evolves with time too. I'm sure you understand that already but I disagree with the way you did the comparison.
    Peace.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Рік тому +1

      Theology's claim about itself is that it is a given. A fixed solution valid for all times.

    • @nvd_ub
      @nvd_ub Рік тому

      In most cases yes but I'd be a little hesitant to make a generalization. In many cases People/communities are very accepting and understanding of the idea of evolution of theology and having multiple interpretations. You would find people and communities who think it's necessary for theology to evolve according to the time and context so that it can be relevant and provides updated guidance. I think your idea fits/represents a certain fundamentalist thinking among many religions around the world who think theology is frozen in time and try to apply certain things from the past to the present anachronisticicallly. But I think I do understand what you're trying to say.
      Peace.

    • @nacpatil
      @nacpatil Рік тому

      ​@@nvd_ub Taimur is right. Read the book, it starts with "this is the final word and a word from the god". At this point it's just question of interepetation. And often interpretation done by those in power will be accepted or gets accepted! A brittle material (one who has decided the only state it would live in) cant bend and form into something else. Thats the case here. The only way is to melt it totally and create a new alloy.

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому

      ​@@Taimur_LaalYou can't apply the rules of book from 1400 yrs ago it's common sense ya respect is there for prophet but many ideas are outdated just pick which are amazing and leave the rest!! That's how society evolve with time !! And i hope it changes with time!! I can see hope in middle East let's see what happen to Pakistan

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому

    That’s why I stay away from religion… it’s your personal choice and believe whatever you want to believe in BUT please keep it to yourself……for God’s sake……🙏

  • @saddiqueakbar6907
    @saddiqueakbar6907 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @mateeullaharrain2779
    @mateeullaharrain2779 Рік тому

    M Ali Mirza burger version
    By the way, respect from Russia

  • @muhammadmutaharchaudhry
    @muhammadmutaharchaudhry Рік тому

    True. 💯

  • @MuhammadUsman-uk2ul
    @MuhammadUsman-uk2ul Рік тому +1

    Agree

  • @misbahsheikh17
    @misbahsheikh17 Рік тому

    Sir hmaray dilo ma sy rusool or rab ki sach i mohabbat khatm kr k in firqo ki dali gae h jis din nabi pak SAW or Allah ki haqeeqi muhabat paida hoge hm seedhy rasty py aa jain gay or isi k sth hm nature sy sawal kr sakain gy that is adoption of scientific approach

    • @nacpatil
      @nacpatil Рік тому

      As long as there is supposed to be one truth and only one muslims will keep fighting to prove that their version is true. It's never gonna end.

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому +2

      You can't apply the rules of book from 1400 yrs ago it's common sense ya respect is there for prophet but many ideas are outdated just pick which are amazing and leave the rest!! That's how society evolve with time !! And i hope it changes with time!! I can see hope in middle East let's see what happen to Pakistan

    • @misbahsheikh17
      @misbahsheikh17 Рік тому

      Well these all ideas if approached in its true essence it has such flexibility to apply any dimensions and in any field. 2ndly I just pointed on the sects system that subcontinent scholars has made more than sunnah nd quran

  • @pascalwager4544
    @pascalwager4544 Рік тому

    I think, there is a way to achieve peace in the world... if, we could get all the mullahs from the world and add them to a committee and keep sending them bizarre questions to issue fatwas on... like can mickey mouse marry olive oyl from popeye's or should teletubbies grow beardd and wear hats, etc. and when each of them had expressed their opinions and issued their fatwas... you get it printed and show it to them and then take it away and throw it down the well... and repeat...

  • @sarkarhaider
    @sarkarhaider Рік тому

    ua-cam.com/video/o0-1-wA8ANk/v-deo.html
    Mufti fazal hamdard on Deeni Engineering

  • @Historelic
    @Historelic Рік тому

    Never ever talk about religion in Pakistan as if you're talking to educated people, people that are tolerant. In fact, never give your point of you and give disclaimers after and before each statement you make.

  • @tqm790
    @tqm790 Рік тому

    Bada tang hai nazeriya, deen nahee sambalata humsay,
    Kitab to padee, par samza khak kuch nahee,
    Akharat ke chinta youn huyee, dushman samaz liya insan ko,
    Khoon ke youn lage talab, uppar wala ko khoonee banadiya,
    Youn padee kitab ke munnfic ban gaya,
    Abb bharta hu daam deen ka,
    Jaisa janta hu sab kuch paygambaro say jiyada....

  • @mukhayar
    @mukhayar Рік тому

    Allah bless you

  • @mohsinafzaal7159
    @mohsinafzaal7159 Рік тому +1

    These Fatwas are so funny 😂 😂😂

  • @alikhanak123
    @alikhanak123 Рік тому +1

    Main tu level of depth par heran ho k kis kis chez par itna ghaur kia gaya hay or fatwa lagaya gaya hay

  • @MuhammadAhmad-ti5io
    @MuhammadAhmad-ti5io Рік тому

    I am not part of any sect but we know that ahle hadees were launched to destroy ottoman empire and barelvi sect was established to spread hatred about freedom fighters and deobandi was a freedom movement but after sometime america changed thier direction and used them as a weapon against Soviet Union

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Рік тому

      This is an interesting perspective that requires further exploration.

  • @amit9023
    @amit9023 11 місяців тому

    Muslim had best past bcoz that time no internet to expose them... 😂 today we get to know every thing

    • @soundofsuccess7152
      @soundofsuccess7152 11 місяців тому

      Every religion had same History
      Even Hindus exist who think Raavan was right
      Extremist hindus specially in India are famous for doing some very....... u know😄
      By the way this Guy is an athiest and Many of the historic facts he told are wrong.
      He is a kind of guy who speak Half Truth. He will speak some facts and impress the listener and then some distorted history in between
      I accept that there is extremism in Pak which is unacceptable but I also think India is in front of us in this regard;

  • @slayer_dan
    @slayer_dan Рік тому

    نہ میں وہابی، نہ میں بابی
    میں ہوں مسلم علمی کتابی۔

  • @Sk-cr2bl
    @Sk-cr2bl Рік тому +1

    Litterate ya illiterate ho India ke bare me pakio knowledge [information] bahut kam hai....🙏🙏🙏🙏
    Din rat shalman sahrukh Amir ka movie dekhte hai fir bhi muslim ka India me genocide ho raha hai....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому +1

      You can't apply the rules of book from 1400 yrs ago it's common sense ya respect is there for prophet but many ideas are outdated just pick which are amazing and leave the rest!! That's how society evolve with time !! And i hope it changes with time!! I can see hope in middle East let's see what happen to Pakistan

    • @soundofsuccess7152
      @soundofsuccess7152 11 місяців тому

      Bilkul vesay hi Jesay Indians ko Lagta ha K Saara Terrorism Pak ker raha ha

    • @Sk-cr2bl
      @Sk-cr2bl 11 місяців тому

      @@soundofsuccess7152 TTP, Taliban and Afghani to Jwab de raha hai.....

    • @soundofsuccess7152
      @soundofsuccess7152 11 місяців тому

      @@Sk-cr2bl
      RSS
      Or even Modi at national level Terrorism ker rhay hain Muslims or Sikho even Christians k Khilaaf
      TTP Taliban Vagera America ki trf se bnaye gaye Brain wasjed Group hain
      Inhay kon theek kehta ha?

  • @asimshahzadharal
    @asimshahzadharal Рік тому

    O yaar konsa ap taraki kr gay ho jo apko fikar lag gai hai k agar islami nizam walay aye to ye ho ga vo ga... Ab to ap log ho na kr lo taraki

  • @Sk-cr2bl
    @Sk-cr2bl Рік тому +2

    Islam and science......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

    • @iotasymbol8498
      @iotasymbol8498 Рік тому +1

      Comparing religious book with science is like comparing hitler to jesus😂😂😂

  • @shorthandtricks9643
    @shorthandtricks9643 Рік тому

    Assalam o alikum Sir,
    Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza ki videos ko dekna shoro karian.
    Tamam firqon ki dukany band kardi hai.

  • @razafazal7366
    @razafazal7366 Рік тому +2

    you sound like engr ali mirza

  • @hamadahmad1926
    @hamadahmad1926 Рік тому +1

    Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza ki tarah bol rahy ho ap bhi

  • @alicheema597
    @alicheema597 Рік тому +1

    sir please do not discuss these topics. If you want to see the result, have a look at engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza sab.

  • @Nat-Con
    @Nat-Con Рік тому +1

    this is ure best presentation ever

  • @IrfanA7861
    @IrfanA7861 Рік тому +1

    Sir jee, you are venturing into treacherous territory. Please exercise caution and be mindful of the risks involved.