Some Difficult Questions Regarding Islam
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2023
- In this interview of Mohammed Hassan Ilyas director of the Ghamdi Centre for Islamic Learning, I ask some difficult questions regarding our faith.
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NICE to see both of you. Ma-Shaa-ALLAH ! ! ! Well needed Discussion. Keep on doing Dawat-e-HAQ of ISLAM without Firqawariyat. May ALLAH guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH. Aameen ! ! ! TRUTH Lovers ko SALAM ! ! !
I am a Canadian Engineer and have practised Engineering all my career. I have never used the title of Engineer to elevate myself, puff up, show superiority and education. It bugs me that in Pakistan non-practising Doctors and Engineers use this title to show superiority and foolish others also use it. They call it Protocol! Just as Fazal ul Rehman is no Mullah, people who passed an exam decades ago and not practise the profession have no right to use it.
@@husainsn this guy is a wrong number..am a Pakistani engineer with masters in mechanical but NEVER EVER used this title .. this guy is not for real.. he's wrong number this Mirza .. ignore him 😁
@@husainsn😂😂😂 it's not the first time, Sumerians and Akkadians also used to love titles
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No one has stopped you from using that... That ain't prohibited... # Damagehasbeendone@@husainsn
A masterpiece to understand religion and conflict of modern society.
I used to think what will happen to the legacy of Ghamidi Sahib but listening to Muhammad Ilyas sahib I am hopeful for the future.
Very true indeed. Hassan Ilyas has a great personality.
I wish this video had English subtitles 😅 lot of my non-Urdu/Hindi speaking comrades could have benefited from this intellectual dialogue ❤️
List the words you had difficulty understanding.
It's in process.. Will be updated soon.
Long live comrade ❤️
@@meowkitty3100 No, I am fine with Urdu, thought of sharing the video with my non-Urdu/Hindi speaking friends who cannot infer anything from the video without subtitles.
Is he speaking Hindi? No I think it's Urdu as people don't speak Hindi in Pakistan and especially Islamic teachings are always discussed in Urdu because it directly absorbs loan words from Arabic and Persian. He is using every other word from Arabic and Persian.
How good people we have here.....i love both of u....impartial scholars
انتہائی خوشگوار حیرت ہوئی پورا پروگرام دیکھ کر۔ دونوں شرکاء کو دلی مبارک باد ۔
بہت بہت شکریہ حضرات برائے نہایت ہی اعلٰی، فکری اور منطقی گفتگو سے نوازنے کا ۔۔ طبیعت خوشگوار ہو گئی سن کر ۔۔ اور شکر ہے کہ یہ وقت کا ضیاع نہیں تھا ۔۔ جزاک اللہ خیرا
Phenomenal, outstanding and mind-blowing discussion.
I learnt a lot. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
One of the most important and knowledgeable discourses, ever watched. JazakAllah
واہ.سبحان اللہ.خدا ہمیں حق سمجھنے کی توفیق عطا فرمائے! آمین.
What a classic conversation with detail clarification for us. Thank you all.
Sir, I'm 21 years old. I came across your videos and lectures when I was around 10. Your way of delivering knowledge and philosophy fascinates me. We need people like you to increase tolerance in our violent and intolerant society. I vehemently agree to Hassan Ilyas' point of views. May Allah give both of you Knowledge, Health and energy. جزاک اللہ
Sir where from u ❤️?
بہت ہی عمدہ منفرد اور ایمان افروز گفتگو پر مبنی پروگرام ! تیمور رحمان نے وہی سوالات پوچھے ہیں جو میرے ذہن میں تھے ۔ الیاس صاحب نے بہت مدلل انداز میں جواب دیے جو پہلی بار کسی اسلامی سکالر سے سننے کو ملے ۔ پاکستان میں تو اتنے دو ٹوک انداز یں اسلام اور مذہب میں گفتگو نہیں ہوتی ہے
ما شاء اللہ
What an informative conversation it was
May Allah Taala bless and reward you both. Aamin
Request to all of you to share this knowledge with loved ones. That's how we can make our society stronger❤❤❤
You are so humble, amazing. ہمیں دو لفظ آجائیں تو آسمان سر پر اٹھا لیتے ہیں اور آپ کی عاجزی قابل ستائش ہے
Superb discussion. This is how an intellectual and logical conversation looks like.
Very interesting discussion, showing the real struggle of Dr sb to understand Islam. ❤
Thank you for hosting such a humble learned Scholar of Islam. Hassan Ilyaas has asked very important & interesting questions to Shaikh Javed Ahmed Ghamidi, educated the educated & the not so educated.
Marvelous interview thanks both of you, stay blessed amen
Engaging in a thought-provoking philosophical dialogue about Islam can be truly enriching. Remarkable individuals such as Dr. Taimur and Hassan inspire us to engage in critical thinking and reflection, urging us to set aside prejudices when encountering differing viewpoints. May Allah bestow upon us the wisdom to comprehend the profound teachings of our beautiful faith, Islam. Furthermore, let us pray for the good health of Ghamdi sb, and eagerly anticipate more enlightening discussions of this nature in the days to come.
This talk has changed my mindset. Thank you for sharing such knowledge
Highly appreciable thing for Dr Taimur
Thank you Dr sahab for this video. It has helped me clarify a number of misconceptions I had.
Great conversation. Really impressed with Hassan Ilyas sahab and his style of speaking.
Beautiful interpretation of each and every aspect.
We all learn from each other with sincere heart, InshaAllah. May Allah guide us all to the right path.
زبردست
An excellent logical informative session better than 1000s of moulvi's and zakirs u tuber stories.
Masha Allah sir
Fantastic discussion
Clear cut demarcation drawn between different knowledge disciplines, so confusions settled
One of the best dialogues on basic questions regarding Islamic perspective on different issues.
Amazing conversation! Never seen before! It is knowledge that can resolve our differences even if we disagree we do not need to be violent we can agree to disagree…… so the point is seek knowledge that’s what we have been told to do for the last 14 hundred years but unfortunately we don’t get this….but these types of videos is a step in the right direction! Keep up the good work 👏👏👏
Amazing discussion. I thoroughly enjoyed it . 👍
It is brilliant discussion. Thank you for brining this.
Wonderful conversation. it has clear lot of misunderstanding.. Thank you for such a talk..
Great lecture sir. It has cleared a lot of misconception for me and also reveals the importance of other studies like philosophy, social etc. Now I will try to not only limit my education in islam and engineering only (by the way, I am a Mechanical Engineer 😊) but also learn these.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and arranging such a great session. Thanks also to the guest (I am sorry I forgot his name, will see the lecture again).
May Allah Almighty Bless You, the Guest and we all. Assalam u Alaikum 👋
wow ! what an informative and full of logic and wisdom program I have been watching for an hour. Than you both for bringing all the misconceptions correct.
Video ki title parh kar sukht fikr hua keh hamari aala akdar k mutabiq sar tan say juda honay ka seen bananay ja raha hai. Allah SWT Rab-ul-Izzat Khaliq-e-Qainat ka lakh lakh shukr k buch bucha ho gya. Kuffar, Mushrikeen ko jaziyeh dainay say inkar karnay par unko katl karnay k baad unki bahu betyon ma'on behnon ko momineen mein bantanein ya hathyaron ki kharidari k liye khulay bazaron mein baichna ya unn say lutf uthanay par koi namakool aur ghatiya saval nahin kya. Na he jannat-ul-ferdows mein Hooron ko sex workers aur Ghilman ko Child labour kaha aur is nagavar mouzou say bhi dur rahay. Alhamdolillah Jan bachy so lakhon pai. 🙏
what an incredibly learned person Mr Muhammad Hassan is, it was truly knowledgeable to listen to him.
Masha Allah dr sahb, Allah apko salamat rakhay. Bohat bara kaam kr rhy hain ! Red salute ♥️
I watched your lecture series on philosophy when I was in college 7 years ago, and since then I've been watching your videos. I have huge respect for you and Ghamidi Sab. I grew up watching his lectures on UA-cam. In my whole life, one of the things of which I'm most proud is that I found you guys.
Same here bro I am also Ahmadzai and I learned a lot from them and I am thankful that I got to know them. I wish that our people get some knowledge so our country can prosper
It is a pleasure to listen to two educated, well read individuals! Voices of reason.
Very well explained the points of discussion. The approach of discussion is very brilliant and intellectual. Many of my confusions are clear after listening the man.
Your channel is a blessing
ہمارے معاشرے میں ایسی گفتگو ناپید ہو چکی ہے جسکی وجہ سے تفریق، اختلاف اور شدت پسندی جیسے مسائل دن بدن بڑھتے جا رہے ہیں۔۔ امید کرتا ہوں آپ جیسے افراد تحمل، برد باری ،علم اور منطق کے ساتھ ایسی بحث جاری رکھیں گے ۔۔۔
Most awaited discussion
Very informative session ❤
What a great discussion. How Hassan Ilyas Sahab explained is remarkable discussion. Taimur we want you again with Javed Ahmed Ghamidi..Such a great scholar never be missed. wait for it. thanks❤
sir really like it, May Allah guide us all. You are doing wonderfull job. wao nice program and nice sitting. I really like it so much i cant tell.
we need such kind of sittings and programs to educate people about moral values, political system and economic syste.
Morality is first.
Wallah great video
Keep it up Dr. Taimur Rehman and M Hassan Ilyas.
Wonderful Interview!
Thoughtful discussion 💯
Last phase of talk was very thoughtful about the moral character of our society this i saw as overseas pakistani .this type of opinion you can have only in free society and you are of course not in Pakistan. Dr.tamour arranged wonderful discussion session.
I always listen to Hasan ilyas and Ghamidi sb
Such an Amazing knowledge I have obtained
Amazing discourse
This is a good initiative, invite other scholars also and extend it furthure 👍👍👍
Great discussion👍
Really good conversation.
Commendable!!! This is the most eye opening podcast on religion. It has given me the clarity on how religion impacts the humna life and key points about the use of islamic principles.🤔
Respected comrade bundle of thanks for your efforts
From Balochistan
Sir please is discussion ko continue rakhen
Very well explained ❤
Extremely thought-provoking and eye-opening conversation. What a great work you doing professor!
Please do more of it. I would to avail this opportunity to suggest that you consider podcast initiative so that students like me can learn more and satisfy our quset for knowledge.
Video ki title parh kar sukht fikr hua keh hamari aala akdar k mutabiq sar tan say juda honay ka seen bananay ja raha hai. Allah SWT Rab-ul-Izzat Khaliq-e-Qainat ka lakh lakh shukr k buch bucha ho gya. Kuffar, Mushrikeen ko jaziyeh dainay say inkar karnay par unko katl karnay k baad unki bahu betyon ma'on behnon ko momineen mein bantanein ya hathyaron ki kharidari k liye khulay bazaron mein baichna ya unn say lutf uthanay par koi namakool aur ghatiya saval nahin kya. Na he jannat-ul-ferdows mein Hooron ko sex workers aur Ghilman ko Child labour kaha aur is nagavar mouzou say bhi dur rahay. Alhamdolillah Jan bachy so lakhon pai. 🙏
Sir bht khushi hui apko sun kar.. Ghamidi sahb k is kaam ko aagey bahane k liye ap bht A6a kaam kar rahe hain.
beautiful video and good questions
I'm glad to see young Muslims debating on Islam and it's principles. I'm glad to see public engagement too.
However I'm unable to understand the motive of this discussion Coz the participants seem to be proving the point lacking in Islam whereby criticising the drawbacks of our society in general and Muslims actions in particular.
Zabita means usul, rule or principle and Islam has given principles in each and every aspect of life the modalities and protocols are determined based on these guidelines to suit the current scenario and requirements.
When scientific development started it was based on some principles and then they worked over those principles and made laws and then applied in practical aspects of their rules and laws .. so if these rules and laws are not implemented then you can't blame the scholar or idiology but those who ignore these laws and principles.
Islam has given the principles of using clothing to cover our body modestly and it didn't emphases on particular dress design or fabric, likewise prophet (S.A.W.W.) HAS the top class facilities for education as per that society i.e. Masjid and Quran.. and they followed those laid out principles based on which later Muslims scholars invented algebra , astronomy , medical, engineering and many other disciplines and mind you these early age Muslim scholar were called scientists not molbi like today reason being they not only studied the religious aspects of Quran dealing with rights of Allah but also those aspects dealing with the rights of humans and so they construed and invented things in the same "religious" institutions we call Maddarassa from the knowledge of Quran and expanded and implemented the principles to think over innovations.
This innovative process stopped when we isolated our islamic source of knowledge , Quran from our education system and adopted western secular laws and developed so called .order unis and kep the real students to maddrasa without inticing them to ponder over revolutionary aspect of Quran and rather memorise it for masijd and solat.
We were forced to isolate and make two classes in our own society which was and needed to be one based on Quran. For all the western scientific Revolution was purely based on the initial scientific works of Muslims scholars of early ages...
That's why majority of our so called religious scholars like in this debate probably have done nothing scientific apart from talking and making impressions of drawbacks in Islamic and Quranic teachings ...
Many gestures from the guest and host are hostile but I won't go into detail but just one aspect that if Islam has not given the system of governance then how the expansion of Islamic empire was culminated to the top in the era of Umar (R.A.) ? IT was those islamic principles and guidelines that were conducive to dominance even after his era later in era of Osman and Ali (R.A.) BUT as part of human flaws and nafs later some Muslims like Ameer Muavia (R.A.) confronted Ali (R.A.) and violated the concept of governance (Khilafa) and established his own rule contrary to the islamic counseling system which later on created the turbulence and then the rise of Hussain (R.A.) against the tyrant yazid despite the fact vast majority surrendered to yazid. That was also the principle set out by Hussain (R.A.) to bow in front of a bad character ruler no matter what it costs.
So Islam is full of bright principles and even rules and authentic laws the only thing we need to discuss here in public is to devise some.emchanism how we can make Muslims of today to practice those bright laws of Islam
We are being disgraced all over for not following what needed to be followed and. Not any drawback in Islam or it's principles.
World is in chaos coz of exploitation and the flawed system governing the world and if we have no spine to rise and bring any alternative system based on Islamic principles then we have no right to misguide the Muslim youth on false notions of our raw knowledge and mind set.
The need today is to present a viable solution to come out of this predicament and not bashing Islam..
We Muslims have to raise our level of understanding Quran rather than translating and inspiring thought from the western media and propogating to our naive audience .
Such debates should be conducted with scholars of different schools of thoughts to have opinions to see the audience what's right .. if one sided version like this then people have no option .. so my suggestion is to bring solutions not controversies ..
Plz .
Also when you try to make us BELEIVE in the failed western system then you lose your authenticity there by citing modern taxation and economic models whereby zakat and charity system is available 😅
Thanks
Love it❤
Ma sha Allah.... ❤
taimur sb. ki baat karnay ka andaaz the temperament is unmatched. okhay sawal bhi kaafi achay tareeqay se put up kartay hain
Amazing questions though a very depthfull explaination is needed for these answers
Very informative debate 👌
Very effective to watch these religious intellectuals and there are some more who present these topics Islam with out any sects. Or use as religious tools for different purposes, as like for religious Extremism or the sake of power.
So sir kindly make us more understandable about Islam and more about societal problems that are faced because of different schools.
And thank you sir to both you ❤❤
What a wonderful discussion.
Great discussion Sir, when we hear Ghamdhi sir one question always comes to mind where are muslims like Ghamdhi...
Wonderful just mind blowing
Excellent discussion! And agree on so many levels.
I do have some questions and confusions and hoping they can get clarified in the oncoming sessions, if any.
- talking about the 4 caliphs and how what they did is a part of history and not a part of religion. Agree with this totally, however I have noticed, in classical Islamic discourse, there have been mentions of Hazrat Omar RA, and how his decisions (eg. Re prisoners of Badr) were considered "much in line divine judgement" as opposed to what was eventually decided.
Having said that, there were some companions who were given the basharah of Jannah in this life.
So putting these arguments together, can we consider a glimpse of leadership with divine grace when speaking of them?
This "divine grace" is given by Allah himself. This had been realized by the scholars of past and this is why mainstream orthodox Sunni Muslims try to understand Deen in the light of understanding of Companions of Prophet S.A.W. instead of solely relying on the intellect of modern day Muslim though through Ijtehad, Allah has given us a way to provide us guidance in different fields still today. Here is where I disagree with the respected guest as he is saying that the understanding of the present day normal people and Companions holds the same weight which is problematic. Why? Because 1) in Quran, Allah has expressed his satisfaction with Companions. 2) Many of them have been given the glad tiding of abode in Jannah. 3) from Hadith, we know Muslims nearer to the time of Prophet are better than the people after them. 4) Prophet has admired different traits (about understanding of Deen, Tafsir, knowledge)of different Companions in his lifetime and the opinion of these Companions hold more weight than modern day people in those fields.
Prophet ﷺ 💚✨ said that best generation is the fourth generation cones before me so yeah we can look at shaba for solving any conflict & issue.
(2) The Islamic system is completely based on the model of Umar RA cuz the whole society and Khilafat raise during the time of umar Ra.
میں امید کرتا ہوں کے روایتی علماء کو اس لیکچر سے اخلاقیات اور دینی معملات میں بات چیت کرنے کا طریقہ کار سیکھنے کو ملے گا.
Dr taimur keep doing more podcasts with many other tank tanks as well. We need podcast series
Informative
you should invite him more often and Ghamidi Sahb as well. Their insights are so powerful and logical
Ghamdhi and his version of Islan is the same violent Islam but just sugar-coated.
بھترین گفتکو تمور سر ماشااللہ❤
Would like to watch a video to understand your position on faith and religion. As you provided the content titled, "Why am i not a postmodernist?" Likewise, it would be great to watch the content titled "Why am i a theist or why am i not an atheist?" Fine-tuning arguments, Infinite regression and other philosophical argument should be applied with counter arguments
Very well explained
Brilliant discussion and opens up avenues for more questions.
1) What is medium to receive and adopt sunnat? It's not Hadees as per Hasan Ilyas sb, if I understand correctly
2) Whether the 4 principal schools of sunnah are not based on sunnah?
Request Hasan Ilyas Sb for comment.
Sir g ap 2no great o❤❤
Dekhna taqreer ki lazzat ki jo us ne kaha main ne ye jaana ki goya ye bhi mere dil mein hai
Eye opening logical, rational guftgu. Thanks from ہندوستان
Bro after listening this discussion, what u understood about Islam?
Weldone amazing ,i really admire ur humility and skill of debate to tackle sensitive questions ,this is a lesson in art of debate which is lacking in today's environment
Very nice analysis
میں مولانا کی ہر بات سے متفق ہوں ! تیمور بھائ آپکی مہربانی آپ نے ایک مجسم علم و دانش ، پیکر فہم و ادراک سے ملاقات کروائی میرے ذہہن میں بہت کلیرٹی پیدا ہوئے ! جناب حسن الیاس صاحب کی کوئ ویب سائیٹ یا یو ٹیوب چینل ہو تو پلیز آگاہ فرمائیں ! شکریہ !!
SubhanAllah Sir waha maza a gya ❤
Great episode 🇧🇩
بہترین مباحثہ
Hassan Bhai Ney Jo Hadees Key Content Key Jo 2 Usool Batay Wo Darust Nai Inhun ney Farmaya
1. Aqali Musallamaat Key Khilaaf Hadees Hogi To Ham Nai Maaney Gey
2. Quraan o Sunnat Key Mukhaalif Agr Hogi To B Nai Maney Gey
See Nukhbat al-Fikr by al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him).
From this definition we may sum up the conditions of a saheeh hadeeth as follows:
1 - Good character of all its narrators
2 - Good memory and precision on the part of narrators with regard to what they are narrating.
3 - Continuous isnaad from beginning to end, meaning that each narrator heard the hadeeth from the one before him.
4 - The hadeeth is free from any oddness in its isnaad or text. What is meant by “odd” is anything in which the narrator narrates something that contradicts the narration of a sounder narrator.
5 - The hadeeth is free from faults in its isnaad and text. A “fault” is a subtle problem that undermines the soundness of the hadeeth, which can be detected only by the well versed scholars of hadeeth.
Yahan 4th aur 5th Priciple Content Sey Related Hey Aur ibn e Hajar Muhaddis Hey Usool E Hadees Key Baadshah Han Unhun Ney Hassan Bhai Key Bayan Krda Usool Zikar Nai Kiye Aur dosri bat key aqal key khilaf hadees ho e nai sakti Ya Apki Aqal Naaqis Hey Ya Hadess in 5 usoolun ki rooshni mey zaeef hey ye mumkin nai key itni sakht saharait key baad aik khabar Ap SAW Sey Naqal Ho Aur Hassan Bhai Ki Aqal Shareef Key Khilaaf Hojay Aur Quran Key Mukhaalif Hona B Mumkin Nai Kyun Muallim Kabhi Apni Taleem Key Khilaaf Baat Nai kr sakta zahiri ikhtelaaf ka nazar ana ikhtelaaf nai uski tatbeeq ki gunjaish hoti hey isi Silsaley Ki Kita Dekhen تاویل مشکل الاحادیث لابن قتبہ
ماشااللہ😍❤️ پاکستان مدینہ کی ریاست بن چکا ہے پاکستان میں زندگی کی بنیادی سہولیات بجلی پانی گیس موجود نہیں
Nahi Pakistani to Subsy Zyada Jhotty, Corrupt, Cheaters , Bad Ikhtalak etclog rahty hain Or Madina ki Riyasat ma asy log nahi thy.
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بالکل ٹھیک کہا مدینہ کی ریاست میں لونڈی بازی کی جاتی باپ اور بھائی کو قتل کرکے ان کی عورتوں کو لونڈیاں بنا لیا جاتا تھا اور بکری منڈی کی طرح لونڈیوں کی منڈی لگا کرتی تھی
Visible!
Lgta ha aap ne video dekhy baghair comment kr diya ha
بہترین ❤ ۔
Taimur sab dil jeet liya ap ne hamara
both are good intelactuals
Listened to this just after listening to your other podcast with Engr Mohammad Ali Mirza and I must acknowledge the depth of the intellectual debate.
One suggestion I would like to give is to include the names of all the books you all refer to during you discussion in the description of the videos. This will help people like us to indulge in detailed reading of that literature (not sure if it gets done already)
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Amazing :)