THE HANDS ARE BACK! Did you see a difference between the two drawings? Also, if you have anything you'd want to see in channel membership videos, let me know!
I could see a lot more confidence in the lines, and more clarity in the pose with the second one, but the 3 points-ish perspective or your first is pretty tough to pull off, I think you still did good tho, I thought it will be like a zombie girl from the gesture in the arms/hand haha.
I hope there's like pointers or something on the side because to be honest, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I see you drawing, yes. But the information from just the sound of what you're saying plus, again, trying to understand what you're drawing is too much information overload. Rather than give WHOLE CHUNK of "The EASIEST way to start Learning to Draw Anatomy!", it would be a lot better if you do like "The EASIEST way to start Learning to Draw Anatomy: BODY" or something like that if you won't chop up the segments of what you want to show. All I understood from this video is try copy other's work to learn anatomy. If that's not what you want to express in this video, there you go. I didn't really understand a thing for both what you said and what you want to say. Also, this is not an attack but criticism. Take it to the head, not the heart. Peace.
Right in time for my yearly "Might quit art because I suck now" crisis. But instead of being self destructive I'm going to refresh my skills, and these videos are SUPER helpful.
Good job staying strong! We gotta fight tooth n nail when that shows up. There's a POINT... a milestone or so... when we'll never have to deal with that again. but we have to persevere lolz
Actually, there was a week where my drawings sucked, i mean, they looked better as others if they drew, but not for me, anatomie is bad, poses are good, but if the anatomie is bad, the pose would look also bad. What i did instead is not drawing again and again to get my perfect result, i just took a 3 days break, and it helped really. My drawings impoved that much i couldnt believe I drew something like this. Sometimes you have to take a break that your brain can train.
Oohhh this is what I actually do, I just get a reference, trace it, them move it to the side and make my own sketch from the traced one and then I repeat it until I got my muscle memory and my anatomy somewhat okay by free hand, I'm really happy you're addressing this to everyone for inspiration✨
I never thought to do this I just trace to understand if I’m confused but don’t reference that trace later when I’m sketching but rather the pic… you’re so right about memory muscle and learning!
I took the bruteforce method. I bought anatomy for sculptor (excellent book) and I'm just learning every single muscles (where it start, which bone it connects too, etc) with very few simplification. It already has helped me tremendously. Before I tried to redo a line because I saw it in a drawing, but when you don't understand the 3D shape behind the line, you will put it in the wrong place if your figure is slightly different, it's also harder to learn (It's like learning a word on its own versus learning what a word mean in a sentence, your brain makes connexions that will help you remember it much more easily). Also one good thing that helped me (I'm still in the early stage of memorization, but I've covered all the upper body) is sculpting it in 3D with a software like ZBrush/Blender. It forces you to understand in 3D what you are doing and if in your mind you can see in 3D, it will look better on a drawing. My drawings since then have already much more "volume". And the additional perk is that you now know how to sculpt.
I was first a bit afraid coz the only thing I could show to my art teacher was 3d works I had done (mostly characters). I think they made good impression and I went on saying that I don't have much if any 2D drawing documented. But to my surprise that was fine for him and said that I will learn it too.
@@blackcitadel37 Probably self taught, if you're sculpting though you just have to learn the Navigtion and what the sculpt brushes do then just insert your own knowledge of Anatomy to get the correct shape.
Really enjoying your channel. I'm in my early 50s and have been a recreational artist for my whole life - but always tended to put it down and take it back up in phases. I just now have gotten around to trying digital art - your work was a big part of that decision, so thank you! Even though I don't have professional aspirations, I wish I had taken it up alot sooner. Your work has been very inspiring nonetheless.
It is very useful to copy and trace poses! A lot of artists tutorials tells that we can not copy art, but sometimes we do not want to copy art, just learn how tha artist is making such a piece by tracing and understanding.
Also copying a pose is hardly copying the art. While its not a good idea to oversaturate your works with samey images (same pose same expression etc) no pose is 'copyright' so there arent actually reprecussions, just makes your art boring to look at if its the same psoe every time is all
I think my biggest problem (besides basic anatomy) is not knowing how to simplify and I know that’s a huge part of drawing/painting. Thank you so much for all of your tips! I’ll definitely keep them in mind.
iPads have really gone down in price recently, like 250 dollars USD. I'm in no way saying that's cheap, but also, there are some off brand apple pencils that have some great reviews! I hope this helps!
@@keepyourshoesathedoor You dont have to do that tbh, when I was broke broke I would just look at drawings online and it helps your hand eye coordination a lot which you need in the future for other life things
This video is so helpful. I've been thinking about doing anatomy studies and I never thought about extracting from other artists work as a legitimate way to do them. I'm going to give this a shot for a while instead of studying from photos like I usually attempt to do.
Its not really about memory, its just knowing how things work. So for example, you can probably write down an incredibly long list of tasks you do in order to get up in the morning, go to work, etc. It basically ends up like that where you go step by step. You already know the body parts, you just need to start learning to add details & real information to what you do know. That and how to start thinking step by step (ok theres 3 parts to the leg...foot/leg/thigh...whats inbetween each part? Joints. The ankle and knee. Whats behind the knee? 3 muscles....what are they connected to? The xyz bones...where are those bones connected?) etc.
back when i really struggled with hands i would take pictures of my own in the pose i needed and just trace. i did that for a while and to my endless surprise, i actually got better! which i discovered the one time i couldnt be bothered so i googled a few random refs in different angles and went for it. looking back, what i gained tracing was familiarity with the form, discovering how i liked to simplify and a less frustrating overall experience, which made me more likely to keep practicing (!) i think the key is to not only trace the lines, but constantly think about the form, breaking it down the way you did in the video. training your brain to think in 3d on a 2d medium is THE skill an artist should have!
You are amazing 🤩 😃💕🎉🎉🎉I’m old enough to be your mom & just started back drawing a few years ago -after NOT drawing for almost 30 years & you’ve taught me so much 🥰👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 especially the fact that we have to practice & draw everyday. . Now I haven’t mastered digital yet -(I do find it fun & interesting) but I love pencil & paper the best -(I’m old school) 😂however, THANKS Josh for the videos & for teaching me so much You’re an awesome Artist!!! Please keep the videos coming!😃💕💕💕🎉🎉🎉
I really enjoyed your process and how your don’t give up. I feel like as artists we have these grand ideas and then get frustrated when something doesn’t look right but it’s because we probably don’t understand the form. I sort of feel weird tracing, but I like how you used it as a reference to break things down and referenced other artists rather than real life photos. I noticed a huge difference in how your drew the shoulders and chest which was something I saw was off in your first render because I do that too. The chest and pelvis area I struggle with the most, not sure why but I’m trying to get better at it!
This is really cooI technique and I think its effective for me, I've been drawing figures a lot out of my imagination, and I see no improvement. Cause I get pressure when use reference cuz maybe I'm too perfectionist. But practicing figure through tracing then copying is a great idea. I kinda afraid using that technique before cause I thought it was cheating, but now I see a lot of artist using it for practicee..
The negativity of tracing/copying centers on other "artists" copying/tracing other people's works and then presenting it as their own - stealing and lying. As a learning tool, copying and tracing another artists work for your own development is one of the smartest things you can do. Its a form of study that forces you to figure out why something works, how something is composed, and introduces you to new techniques. If it helps, know that many higher level art education curriculums will have their students do "master studies"... essentially many excercises copying and replicating works done by acknowledged artists from now and throughout history, as a way to learn the various elements used. This culminates often in the student producing an original work in the "style" of the master, to show their own growth, mastery, and comphrehension of the techniques used. Which is more or less, an extended version of the excercise being presented here... just expanded out to cover things like lighting, color theory, brush technique, etc. It's not cheating - its learning. I'd say for the most part these studies should remain private, especially if you're pulling modern artists you admire for reference, with the exception being figure studies done off of photos and stating so upfront. Its also quite good to credit the photographer if its available info. Of course, if you're creating your own composition at the end to see what you've learned, that's original and can be freely shared. As for stressing about references - back with hand animated 2d films, the animators would have film taken of actors playing out various scenes to use as reference. There are countless artwork prints produced with reference made from photos taken. Old and modern mastets alike would hire live people to come into the workshop to pose as reference... there's a reason why the concept of artists having a "muse" exists when those relationships progressed to inspiration. Remember that reference is not an outline of how a thing should look that you must now recreate in full, but rather an informational guideline. Artists can and will alter and completely change things from their reference all the time to make the pose better, to make the composition stronger, to get a better array of elements across the piece... Thats why its reference and not "replication". Reference is in service to the composition and artist, it does not dictate the artist's choices.
I'm very glad I watched this video. I used to do this method a lot, but then I stopped doing it. I think it was mostly because artists saying "tracing/copying is bad, it will never help you improve". And I listened to them. I hate how I listen to other artists and think what they are saying is the only right way, and any other way isn't useful and won't help me improve. Now, I'm gonna try and not care about what they say. I'm just gonna do my own thing and have fun. Thank you very much for this video! I'm definitely going to try this out again and see what happens!
I just wanted to say... your style is nothing like what I'm looking for, not really. (Not saying your art isn't gorgeous because it is) but you just offer the most wonderful advice to get me where I'm trying to go and I appreciate you so so so SO much. I've struggled for years with mental issues that caused me unable to pick up my brand-new (for years) tablet and just DRAW. I was so anxious and overwhelmed and scared so much so that even thinking about drawing put me in tears or even a panic attack even though I wanted to do it so so so much. But between your advice and my favorite artist in the whole world sharing his 'this is how I do it', (as well as finally getting on proper medications) I've just been able to take a huge leap forward. I'm actually drawing and even making pieces that are 100% my work and I can't express how happy that makes me.
That tip at the beginning of trying to draw something from memory to see if you've actually learned it is actually really good. I started drawing certain separate things (eye, nose, mouth, ear, hand) and most of these I was actually surprisingly good at. Gave me a nice bit of confidence. Even the hand wasn't horrible.
I always thought tracing and copying was taboo, that it would make me a 'false artist' as it were. Thank you for this. This really helps show me that it's okay to do the two because it's studying; it'll help me be a BETTER artist
I cannot thank you enough for addressing this! tracing is an amazing way to learn and many people online will try and shy young artists who are new to the digital drawing space such as myself away from it. Ive had my drawing tablet for a little under 3 years and my progress has been insane. I couldn't have come as far as I have if it had'nt been for this method. Im so glad i came to this video for inspiration and to help set my mind on the right track and escape artblock.
I honestly never thought about focusing on artists that I enjoyed; obviously, I've picked up shading tips and or general artistic preferences, but I never thought about simplifying their work to understand why I like their anatomy. Thank you for the insight!
I always hated how people didn't take into account that understanding anatomy from photos is hard because you don't have clear lines that show the forms of every part of the body. That's why this video was so helpful! I felt bad about learning anatomy from art and not pictures, but with your video a tried this method in your way and made so much progress!
Thank you so much for posting this!! I have been an artist for years and I started using the tracing technique several years ago when I got my first Wacom. Over the years I have had a few people tell me that I "cheat" and degrade my work. I have always defended myself by saying that I used it to ensure my shapes and angles as well as to learn new styles. I have never made a copy of someone's work to claim as my own, rather used the basic shape and made it my own. Seeing another artist justify this as a learning technique really made my day. 🥰
This was so informational! I loosely sketch over the reference and then clean it up with a neater sketch, before adding the base colors. I’m gonna definitely try this technique so I can improve.
The female at the end gives me disney princess vibes, like a new princess. DISNEY TAKE NOTES. Like she has spots on her face reminds me of a leopard or cheetah or jaguar.
Doing this alongside slowly learning anatomy is probably the best way to go about learning to drawing the human body. Even short, simplified looks at bone structure would take you a long way while doing this. I recommend it to anyone who can't be asked to learn anatomy the "traditional" way. You get to draw/practice immediately what you want while also reinforcing the "why" which will help things stick longer. I'm so motivated to improve rn
The difference between them was really apparent for me. You could see the attention to detail really stuck out for the 2nd drawing, whereas the 1st drawing looked almost unsure. A great video
Thank you for making this video while I try to draw as often as I can I find in later years of my art journey I’ve really fallen down on improving on fundamentals choosing to play it safe and for a long time avoided tracing due to how online you can get blasted for drawing something too similar to someone else even though tracing can be much a tool to learn as drawing from references. I plan to tonight start doing drawing exercises and your method to start getting better at art.
I really appreciate this a lot, I struggle with anatomy now a days since I don’t sketch as much as I used to, and I’m happy that my process is sound lol
Awesome 👏 this is really how my mind works when studying and focusing on rendering anatomy from imagination. But your advice about tracing over figures and the simplification process as well is a very practical way to study for sure . It’s like having X-ray vision lol 👏☺️
i love that u show the whole process, like when you mess up or change a part by transforming it or erasing and drawing it again! it makes me feel a lot better because i constantly mess up lol
Thank you for this video, now I'm ready to face Anatomy or any other parts after a year of being depressed and thinking i am no longer improving. I also love your voice, its very calming.
Been drawing for my whole life on and off, been back into it for about two weeks and my focus has been heavily in anatomy, but not anatomy more dynamic poses then anything, thx u for pointing out the 4, so many different ways to draw and shape a figure it’s making it more and more complicated
I'll never not be jealous of digital artists and their ability the resize what theyve drawn to fit proportions. Someday I'll have enough money to invest in a tablet.
I need me a tablet for easier access to draw anywhere whenever I want to. Besides that I need me a bew laptop anyways cause mine isn't so good right now. Maybe one day I'll get to practice again...
Within 4 seconds of this video starting I thought that my bass settings were way off the charts, then I realised it was just your soothing voice. Subbed.
I don’t have a printer and am only drawing traditionally for now as I’m first learning. Right now I’ve tried references a lot and struggled with proportions, I think tracing will help a lot. Will start using maybe some comics to trace.
I actually do this too! I trace my reference as a base sketch, and make it my own as I go along. There's this artist I absolutely love named Pilyeon, and I love the way they draw their characters. So I'm working on tracing one of Pilyeon's works before coloring it. And then I'll copy it on a different canvas with the reference in the corner. Your videos are very informative. I enjoy watching them. Wonderful job on all your sketches, btw. ❤
Thank you. I myself am learning how to draw. I think the best way to better learn for me is to go back to basics and trace. That way I can get a better image and also have it kept in my notebook. In which I can always return to it to study anatomy at any time as well as practice. It is a good reminder whenever I am stumped.
I just watched ur vid today and ur art is so clear and very helpful for a beginner like me! I really need this. most artists in my place are different from u, when I try to ask for tips or pieces of advice, all they say is to practice more.
This video is phenomenal for me at least. I have been on and off drawing for a while now as I don't have enough confidence in my own art style and pieces I produce. Since going back to school, I have yet to really take any new drawing classes but have taken animation 1 which allowed me to do or try new things for myself that I never thought I would ever do which actually helped break the mold of my stubbornness to try something new and explore as I am highly critical of my own work, as a lot of artists are. I recently started to use real people poses and draw my simplified skeleton on top of them to see these poses in shapes which I see you are using in the video and honestly its the best set up for most people who struggle with recreating the human body or any body for that matter. Trying to create a body from the mind tends to be hard for me as I can see it clearly in the mind, but placing it on paper or digital paper can be tough and stressful. Your video is beyond helpful as I am able to go even further in my practice than I did a couple weeks back.
nice video Josh, i've started drawing about 6 months ago, and I've always had a problem with memorizing a lot of things, like poses, so far i only know how to do 3 or 4 poses from imagination, but only from real references, I always thought that drawing poses of other artists was the same as not learning well as with the references of life, I will try to implement it, I will draw the pose as many times as necessary to memorize it, thanks
I have always struggled with drawing people until recently I developed my own art style but I still struggle with drawing anatomy. It helps me to focus on one drawing at once tracing it a bunch over and over again and trying to draw it on the side. I’m mostly a traditional artist but I do sometimes use digital apps, so until I get muscle memory for basic shapes of the body I’ll use apps then try in my sketchbook.
I've been drawing off and on (mostly off) since grade school in the 90s. When I really got started drawing in middle-school, I traced pictures I thought were cool and characters from comic strips I liked. I did so mostly because it was an easy way to get my drawings to look the way I wanted. By high school I realized I didn't need to trace so much to make things recognizable, so I "graduated" to drawing by eye, freehand. I thought this was what I would do to improve from that point on. In reality, shortly after highschool I stagnated and procrastinated, and I haven't really made any progress in the past 20 years. I've been hearing about "intentional" practice as the best way to improve. I've been trying gesture drawing and perspective practice, and while that's good practice, I'm not seeing the improvement I was hoping for, even when comparing the new with the old. Now I come across this video. I hadn't considered tracing again. I thought I was beyond that, but I can see how it can make for some rapid improvement if done consistently and regularly. It made for extremely rapid improvement when I was a preteen, why not now that I'm pushing 40? I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks.
the way that i have done ur method and have LEVED TF UP ART WISE here is how 1) I only ever drew head shots before now i attempted drawing more 2)drew a whole pose when origially all my art was stiff and only shoulders up 3) More fluid that before and can do different angles than i could have done before All i have to say is thank u because this practice has made perfect
i've done something similar! I often trace the general shape of a reference and then sketch a new one from my trace, with some changes to the limbs' position and see if i like how the new pose feels.
Great tips! I’ve also realized that distractions such as social media, and watching videos while I draw can hinder my ability to improve improve my skills. My advice, try to stay away from distraction and focus on your composition and art.
Thank you josh for this video I’ve gotten back into my art like 4 months ago and been drawing since I was 12 but seeing this definitely has be more focused on anatomy study it is very helpful thank you
for the longest time i thought all you did was copy drawing because those are the only videos that showed up in my feed. very impressed with your camera angles and your ability to foreshorten in a realistic way. super cool stuff.
Thank you for this video. This was a great reminder that shapes are the fundamentals for a reason. They're the building blocks of what art our will become. :D
Just had a massive breakdown since I couldn't get a single pose right and I felt like this was my limit for art so I should just stop but this video literally cured that and taught me how improve thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️
I was told by an artist on Domestika from a course that I was doing (Portrait Sketchbooking: Explore the Human Face - the course). As I wanted to draw more portraits and get into portrait work in a realistic way that I possibly can sketch. To trace over and draw it again without looking at it/move it aside, this will help build up your muscle memory. I actually never thought to do this for the anatomy 😅 I find the anatomy so daunting! But I want to accomplish being able to build poses for my characters, so I am going to give this ago for a few months and see how it goes. Thank you for sharing 😁
hi ergojosh this week i have beginning to follow your lesson, i need tbh this anatomy i can do with tracing and also copying but when i try to do it without guidelines i still need a lot of practice. but i will never give up to become a great artist like you and i will still follow your work. please keep up the awesome work
I want to learn to draw my favorite characters and my own characters I've created in a believable fashion. I also wish to draw them in any point of perspective. I see many methods to draw human anatomy, and I don't know where to start. It's all so overwhelming. I see the simplified forms route as confusing because I wonder if those forms are 'snapped' to a perspective grid and that I need to learn perspective and add all of those horizon line connections to each form. It's all so confusing and I feel very discouraged.
Look, I know that you've heard this so many times, but don't give up. I started drawing about 2 years ago. I wouldn't draw every day due to school assignments and because my schedule was full but sometimes I would manage to find time to draw smth. Up until now I've not learnt many things. I'm drawing by my finger in my phone. The app that I use it ibis paint x. As you can understand, there are several restrictions that I can't really avoid them. It is very frustrating but I prefer not to give up. I'm just like you, I wanna learn digital art to draw my fave characters (Atla) but I don't manage to do very well. These days I've been drawing almost every day and I saw a huge improvement compared to stuff I'd draw a year ago. I'm not a prodigy. I'm not like many others that can basically understand what's going on and learn it in a week or so. I do struggle a lot with anatomy and perspectives too. I can't draw side profiles. I barely can draw a 3/4. I've been thinking of buying a tablet and a stylus. I'm not really sure tho, if it will help me. Yeah the stylus is important, but I don't really think that a change in an app can make a big difference. Some apps have very useful tools, but I still believe that practice makes perfect. To be more honest, I do believe that practice makes permanent. So, perfect practice makes perfect. But don't give up. I know many people in social media that started from drawing only messed up sketches that turned out to be much better than I could ever imagine. And most of them in a span of months.
@@thompsonevergreen8006 Wish I could. I can afford a tablet but I don't know if it's worth it. I've tried a plenty of things in my life (most of the separate from one another), but I always tend to waste my time. I love digital art. I'm not gonna be bored, even if things don't turn out quite as predicted. But the budget will be wasted.
I'm glad you did this. I always felt like that type of practice wasn't allowed so i've really been holding myself back cuz it all just seems so intimidating. Thank you!
If only I could wield the power of warping and undo in practical illustration. Great advice all around and I'll be sure to add it to my practicing repertoire.
liked the video ill give it a try i most spend lunch break drawing circles to get better at free handing them its easy to do on lunch this might be a good exercise to toss in
when i was a kid i primarily drew by copying existing designs, it leaves you with little flexibility but it made it so much easier to make somethign that looked cool
Could you make a video about how you trace over images and section off the different body parts? As a newer artist, I find it quite difficult to really section them off in a systematic way so it always changes every time I trace over a new image and I feel that it isn't helping me as much as it could. Really great content though, I really appreciate your down to earth talks and how honest you are about improving and working toward art goals.
I've been drawing on and off since 2016 though since I got my tablet 2 years ago I've been trying to get it more constantly, suddenly I just lost all confidence in my anatomy. This video really helped thank you so much! This is super helpful!
THE HANDS ARE BACK! Did you see a difference between the two drawings?
Also, if you have anything you'd want to see in channel membership videos, let me know!
I could see a lot more confidence in the lines, and more clarity in the pose with the second one, but the 3 points-ish perspective or your first is pretty tough to pull off, I think you still did good tho, I thought it will be like a zombie girl from the gesture in the arms/hand haha.
You’ve got insane gear, are you working at a part time or full time job? How are you combining it with youtube?
What do you have your iPad resting on here at 5:54? I did check your link but couldn't find it
Which tablet is that? Might get one for myself
I hope there's like pointers or something on the side because to be honest, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I see you drawing, yes. But the information from just the sound of what you're saying plus, again, trying to understand what you're drawing is too much information overload.
Rather than give WHOLE CHUNK of "The EASIEST way to start Learning to Draw Anatomy!", it would be a lot better if you do like "The EASIEST way to start Learning to Draw Anatomy: BODY" or something like that if you won't chop up the segments of what you want to show.
All I understood from this video is try copy other's work to learn anatomy. If that's not what you want to express in this video, there you go. I didn't really understand a thing for both what you said and what you want to say.
Also, this is not an attack but criticism. Take it to the head, not the heart. Peace.
Right in time for my yearly "Might quit art because I suck now" crisis. But instead of being self destructive I'm going to refresh my skills, and these videos are SUPER helpful.
Good job staying strong! We gotta fight tooth n nail when that shows up. There's a POINT... a milestone or so... when we'll never have to deal with that again. but we have to persevere lolz
Actually, there was a week where my drawings sucked, i mean, they looked better as others if they drew, but not for me, anatomie is bad, poses are good, but if the anatomie is bad, the pose would look also bad.
What i did instead is not drawing again and again to get my perfect result, i just took a 3 days break, and it helped really. My drawings impoved that much i couldnt believe I drew something like this.
Sometimes you have to take a break that your brain can train.
me just every month:
I really need to get down with this.
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Draw yourself a profile picture… I’ll be back once I drew mine
Oohhh this is what I actually do, I just get a reference, trace it, them move it to the side and make my own sketch from the traced one and then I repeat it until I got my muscle memory and my anatomy somewhat okay by free hand, I'm really happy you're addressing this to everyone for inspiration✨
I've done the same alternating practice before! It can be really intense but gives great results.
I never thought to do this I just trace to understand if I’m confused but don’t reference that trace later when I’m sketching but rather the pic… you’re so right about memory muscle and learning!
I got goosebumps, that's literally me
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For some reason….You had me the first half not gonna lie xD
I took the bruteforce method. I bought anatomy for sculptor (excellent book) and I'm just learning every single muscles (where it start, which bone it connects too, etc) with very few simplification. It already has helped me tremendously. Before I tried to redo a line because I saw it in a drawing, but when you don't understand the 3D shape behind the line, you will put it in the wrong place if your figure is slightly different, it's also harder to learn (It's like learning a word on its own versus learning what a word mean in a sentence, your brain makes connexions that will help you remember it much more easily).
Also one good thing that helped me (I'm still in the early stage of memorization, but I've covered all the upper body) is sculpting it in 3D with a software like ZBrush/Blender. It forces you to understand in 3D what you are doing and if in your mind you can see in 3D, it will look better on a drawing. My drawings since then have already much more "volume". And the additional perk is that you now know how to sculpt.
this is what i was planning to do (with the same book lmao)
How did you learn 3d modeling? Course, book, yt?
Did tiu take any 3D sculpting courses to help you understand anatomy more? If so which ones? I'd greatly appreciate it 🙏🏽
I was first a bit afraid coz the only thing I could show to my art teacher was 3d works I had done (mostly characters). I think they made good impression and I went on saying that I don't have much if any 2D drawing documented.
But to my surprise that was fine for him and said that I will learn it too.
@@blackcitadel37 Probably self taught, if you're sculpting though you just have to learn the Navigtion and what the sculpt brushes do then just insert your own knowledge of Anatomy to get the correct shape.
Really enjoying your channel. I'm in my early 50s and have been a recreational artist for my whole life - but always tended to put it down and take it back up in phases. I just now have gotten around to trying digital art - your work was a big part of that decision, so thank you! Even though I don't have professional aspirations, I wish I had taken it up alot sooner. Your work has been very inspiring nonetheless.
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That is awesome to hear, I hope you enjoy your journey with digital!
Good ending
Thats awesome Shane, im happy to hear it
Epic :)
It is very useful to copy and trace poses! A lot of artists tutorials tells that we can not copy art, but sometimes we do not want to copy art, just learn how tha artist is making such a piece by tracing and understanding.
Also copying a pose is hardly copying the art. While its not a good idea to oversaturate your works with samey images (same pose same expression etc) no pose is 'copyright' so there arent actually reprecussions, just makes your art boring to look at if its the same psoe every time is all
I think my biggest problem (besides basic anatomy) is not knowing how to simplify and I know that’s a huge part of drawing/painting. Thank you so much for all of your tips! I’ll definitely keep them in mind.
Ur pfp🙏
*cries in traditional artist*
iPads have really gone down in price recently, like 250 dollars USD. I'm in no way saying that's cheap, but also, there are some off brand apple pencils that have some great reviews! I hope this helps!
Do it a traditional way. Get a light box and a print out a reference.
@@keepyourshoesathedoor You dont have to do that tbh, when I was broke broke I would just look at drawings online and it helps your hand eye coordination a lot which you need in the future for other life things
Dude shut up?? Just find a trad art tut it’s not hard. Be quiet
@@keepyourshoesathedoorbut i dont have an light box
This video is so helpful. I've been thinking about doing anatomy studies and I never thought about extracting from other artists work as a legitimate way to do them. I'm going to give this a shot for a while instead of studying from photos like I usually attempt to do.
Its not really about memory, its just knowing how things work. So for example, you can probably write down an incredibly long list of tasks you do in order to get up in the morning, go to work, etc. It basically ends up like that where you go step by step. You already know the body parts, you just need to start learning to add details & real information to what you do know. That and how to start thinking step by step (ok theres 3 parts to the leg...foot/leg/thigh...whats inbetween each part? Joints. The ankle and knee. Whats behind the knee? 3 muscles....what are they connected to? The xyz bones...where are those bones connected?) etc.
@@ergojosh That is memorizing the important details. The fundamental rules you could say.
back when i really struggled with hands i would take pictures of my own in the pose i needed and just trace. i did that for a while and to my endless surprise, i actually got better! which i discovered the one time i couldnt be bothered so i googled a few random refs in different angles and went for it.
looking back, what i gained tracing was familiarity with the form, discovering how i liked to simplify and a less frustrating overall experience, which made me more likely to keep practicing (!)
i think the key is to not only trace the lines, but constantly think about the form, breaking it down the way you did in the video. training your brain to think in 3d on a 2d medium is THE skill an artist should have!
You are amazing 🤩 😃💕🎉🎉🎉I’m old enough to be your mom & just started back drawing a few years ago -after NOT drawing for almost 30 years & you’ve taught me so much 🥰👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 especially the fact that we have to practice & draw everyday. . Now I haven’t mastered digital yet -(I do find it fun & interesting) but I love pencil & paper the best -(I’m old school) 😂however, THANKS Josh for the videos & for teaching me so much You’re an awesome Artist!!! Please keep the videos coming!😃💕💕💕🎉🎉🎉
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With all those emojis you 100% have mom vibes but overall goodluck on your art journey mum
That’s awesome, its nice to see people getting back into old hobbies. I hope you continue to have motivation for your art :D
I wish you were my mommy
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I really enjoyed your process and how your don’t give up. I feel like as artists we have these grand ideas and then get frustrated when something doesn’t look right but it’s because we probably don’t understand the form. I sort of feel weird tracing, but I like how you used it as a reference to break things down and referenced other artists rather than real life photos.
I noticed a huge difference in how your drew the shoulders and chest which was something I saw was off in your first render because I do that too. The chest and pelvis area I struggle with the most, not sure why but I’m trying to get better at it!
You make anatomy look so easy! Thanks for sharing your advice!
This is really cooI technique and I think its effective for me, I've been drawing figures a lot out of my imagination, and I see no improvement. Cause I get pressure when use reference cuz maybe I'm too perfectionist. But practicing figure through tracing then copying is a great idea. I kinda afraid using that technique before cause I thought it was cheating, but now I see a lot of artist using it for practicee..
no such thing as cheating in art, don't even know why people say that lol
The negativity of tracing/copying centers on other "artists" copying/tracing other people's works and then presenting it as their own - stealing and lying.
As a learning tool, copying and tracing another artists work for your own development is one of the smartest things you can do. Its a form of study that forces you to figure out why something works, how something is composed, and introduces you to new techniques.
If it helps, know that many higher level art education curriculums will have their students do "master studies"... essentially many excercises copying and replicating works done by acknowledged artists from now and throughout history, as a way to learn the various elements used. This culminates often in the student producing an original work in the "style" of the master, to show their own growth, mastery, and comphrehension of the techniques used.
Which is more or less, an extended version of the excercise being presented here... just expanded out to cover things like lighting, color theory, brush technique, etc.
It's not cheating - its learning.
I'd say for the most part these studies should remain private, especially if you're pulling modern artists you admire for reference, with the exception being figure studies done off of photos and stating so upfront. Its also quite good to credit the photographer if its available info. Of course, if you're creating your own composition at the end to see what you've learned, that's original and can be freely shared.
As for stressing about references - back with hand animated 2d films, the animators would have film taken of actors playing out various scenes to use as reference. There are countless artwork prints produced with reference made from photos taken. Old and modern mastets alike would hire live people to come into the workshop to pose as reference... there's a reason why the concept of artists having a "muse" exists when those relationships progressed to inspiration.
Remember that reference is not an outline of how a thing should look that you must now recreate in full, but rather an informational guideline. Artists can and will alter and completely change things from their reference all the time to make the pose better, to make the composition stronger, to get a better array of elements across the piece... Thats why its reference and not "replication". Reference is in service to the composition and artist, it does not dictate the artist's choices.
I'm very glad I watched this video. I used to do this method a lot, but then I stopped doing it. I think it was mostly because artists saying "tracing/copying is bad, it will never help you improve". And I listened to them. I hate how I listen to other artists and think what they are saying is the only right way, and any other way isn't useful and won't help me improve. Now, I'm gonna try and not care about what they say. I'm just gonna do my own thing and have fun. Thank you very much for this video! I'm definitely going to try this out again and see what happens!
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I just wanted to say... your style is nothing like what I'm looking for, not really. (Not saying your art isn't gorgeous because it is) but you just offer the most wonderful advice to get me where I'm trying to go and I appreciate you so so so SO much. I've struggled for years with mental issues that caused me unable to pick up my brand-new (for years) tablet and just DRAW. I was so anxious and overwhelmed and scared so much so that even thinking about drawing put me in tears or even a panic attack even though I wanted to do it so so so much. But between your advice and my favorite artist in the whole world sharing his 'this is how I do it', (as well as finally getting on proper medications) I've just been able to take a huge leap forward. I'm actually drawing and even making pieces that are 100% my work and I can't express how happy that makes me.
I think it is amazing that your sharing your story and I wholeheartedly support you beyond the screen! がまれ!!
That tip at the beginning of trying to draw something from memory to see if you've actually learned it is actually really good. I started drawing certain separate things (eye, nose, mouth, ear, hand) and most of these I was actually surprisingly good at. Gave me a nice bit of confidence. Even the hand wasn't horrible.
TLDW; bounce between copying and tracing, trace the simple shapes of the anatomy from artists you like.
The living dead walks?
@@Ichigitchyyayadadatoo lazy didn’t watch*
I always thought tracing and copying was taboo, that it would make me a 'false artist' as it were.
Thank you for this. This really helps show me that it's okay to do the two because it's studying; it'll help me be a BETTER artist
Josh and Marc and really carrying the art community they constantly give new content to help artist improve
what abt proko he's good too
I cannot thank you enough for addressing this! tracing is an amazing way to learn and many people online will try and shy young artists who are new to the digital drawing space such as myself away from it. Ive had my drawing tablet for a little under 3 years and my progress has been insane. I couldn't have come as far as I have if it had'nt been for this method. Im so glad i came to this video for inspiration and to help set my mind on the right track and escape artblock.
Just finished drawing hands feeling unstoppable
I honestly never thought about focusing on artists that I enjoyed; obviously, I've picked up shading tips and or general artistic preferences, but I never thought about simplifying their work to understand why I like their anatomy. Thank you for the insight!
I always hated how people didn't take into account that understanding anatomy from photos is hard because you don't have clear lines that show the forms of every part of the body. That's why this video was so helpful! I felt bad about learning anatomy from art and not pictures, but with your video a tried this method in your way and made so much progress!
This video came the best time! I was trying to find a way to draw anatomy and start to learn it but I didn't find where to start and how. Thank you!
Thank you so much for posting this!! I have been an artist for years and I started using the tracing technique several years ago when I got my first Wacom. Over the years I have had a few people tell me that I "cheat" and degrade my work. I have always defended myself by saying that I used it to ensure my shapes and angles as well as to learn new styles. I have never made a copy of someone's work to claim as my own, rather used the basic shape and made it my own. Seeing another artist justify this as a learning technique really made my day. 🥰
Following your journey and seeing you improve really motivates me josh, thanks for posting this dives into your thought process!
Bro’s voice is beautiful
I love this channel more down to earth than art channels and more helpful than all most my artists.
This was so informational! I loosely sketch over the reference and then clean it up with a neater sketch, before adding the base colors. I’m gonna definitely try this technique so I can improve.
The female at the end gives me disney princess vibes, like a new princess. DISNEY TAKE NOTES. Like she has spots on her face reminds me of a leopard or cheetah or jaguar.
Doing this alongside slowly learning anatomy is probably the best way to go about learning to drawing the human body. Even short, simplified looks at bone structure would take you a long way while doing this. I recommend it to anyone who can't be asked to learn anatomy the "traditional" way. You get to draw/practice immediately what you want while also reinforcing the "why" which will help things stick longer. I'm so motivated to improve rn
I thought I was insane for doing this but this made me feel much more confident about learning anatomy and was super helpful!
Simular things like this have improved my work in the past and seeing it on display like this make it click this will be how i practice in the future
I will learn how to draw funny skeletons, and no one will stop me.
The difference between them was really apparent for me. You could see the attention to detail really stuck out for the 2nd drawing, whereas the 1st drawing looked almost unsure. A great video
Thank you for making this video while I try to draw as often as I can I find in later years of my art journey I’ve really fallen down on improving on fundamentals choosing to play it safe and for a long time avoided tracing due to how online you can get blasted for drawing something too similar to someone else even though tracing can be much a tool to learn as drawing from references. I plan to tonight start doing drawing exercises and your method to start getting better at art.
I was really about to cry , but when I saw this video it likes made a spark in my mind , thank you so much 🙏
This is exactly what I was looking to hear and learn. Now I know a much better way to practice what I want to be learning.
I really appreciate this a lot, I struggle with anatomy now a days since I don’t sketch as much as I used to, and I’m happy that my process is sound lol
This is literally the only video talking about character anatomy that doesn’t sound like complete gibberish to me. Thanks dude!!
This is actually how ive been learning, is tracing, then copying that trace to understand the shapes
You're a great artist. Your approach and how you teach is technical without feeling overwhelming. You help keep me in the art game.
Awesome 👏 this is really how my mind works when studying and focusing on rendering anatomy from imagination. But your advice about tracing over figures and the simplification process as well is a very practical way to study for sure . It’s like having X-ray vision lol 👏☺️
i love that u show the whole process, like when you mess up or change a part by transforming it or erasing and drawing it again! it makes me feel a lot better because i constantly mess up lol
UR VOICE IS SO SATISFYING!! 😩✨
Thank you for this video, now I'm ready to face Anatomy or any other parts after a year of being depressed and thinking i am no longer improving. I also love your voice, its very calming.
Been drawing for my whole life on and off, been back into it for about two weeks and my focus has been heavily in anatomy, but not anatomy more dynamic poses then anything, thx u for pointing out the 4, so many different ways to draw and shape a figure it’s making it more and more complicated
I just started watching the video, and this dude already got my attention within less than 10 seconds
I'll never not be jealous of digital artists and their ability the resize what theyve drawn to fit proportions. Someday I'll have enough money to invest in a tablet.
I need me a tablet for easier access to draw anywhere whenever I want to. Besides that I need me a bew laptop anyways cause mine isn't so good right now.
Maybe one day I'll get to practice again...
Within 4 seconds of this video starting I thought that my bass settings were way off the charts, then I realised it was just your soothing voice. Subbed.
I don’t have a printer and am only drawing traditionally for now as I’m first learning. Right now I’ve tried references a lot and struggled with proportions, I think tracing will help a lot. Will start using maybe some comics to trace.
I actually do this too! I trace my reference as a base sketch, and make it my own as I go along.
There's this artist I absolutely love named Pilyeon, and I love the way they draw their characters. So I'm working on tracing one of Pilyeon's works before coloring it. And then I'll copy it on a different canvas with the reference in the corner.
Your videos are very informative. I enjoy watching them. Wonderful job on all your sketches, btw. ❤
I feel like this actually helped a lot, thx so much for the amazing tutorial
Thank you. I myself am learning how to draw. I think the best way to better learn for me is to go back to basics and trace. That way I can get a better image and also have it kept in my notebook. In which I can always return to it to study anatomy at any time as well as practice. It is a good reminder whenever I am stumped.
Why have I never thought of putting a grippy on my digital pen! that’s wonderful!
Wow! What a fantastic digital drawing.
That's great. Keep our meeting! 👍
Watch the video to the end.
Have a happy new week!
I just watched ur vid today and ur art is so clear and very helpful for a beginner like me! I really need this.
most artists in my place are different from u, when I try to ask for tips or pieces of advice, all they say is to practice more.
Love the Aloy drawing!! 🏹❤️🔥
This video is phenomenal for me at least. I have been on and off drawing for a while now as I don't have enough confidence in my own art style and pieces I produce. Since going back to school, I have yet to really take any new drawing classes but have taken animation 1 which allowed me to do or try new things for myself that I never thought I would ever do which actually helped break the mold of my stubbornness to try something new and explore as I am highly critical of my own work, as a lot of artists are. I recently started to use real people poses and draw my simplified skeleton on top of them to see these poses in shapes which I see you are using in the video and honestly its the best set up for most people who struggle with recreating the human body or any body for that matter. Trying to create a body from the mind tends to be hard for me as I can see it clearly in the mind, but placing it on paper or digital paper can be tough and stressful. Your video is beyond helpful as I am able to go even further in my practice than I did a couple weeks back.
You are an exceptional artist sir. There is definitely work out there for you.
This was great advice. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
Talent in learning and practice makes perfect
nice video Josh, i've started drawing about 6 months ago, and I've always had a problem with memorizing a lot of things, like poses, so far i only know how to do 3 or 4 poses from imagination, but only from real references, I always thought that drawing poses of other artists was the same as not learning well as with the references of life, I will try to implement it, I will draw the pose as many times as necessary to memorize it, thanks
I have always struggled with drawing people until recently I developed my own art style but I still struggle with drawing anatomy. It helps me to focus on one drawing at once tracing it a bunch over and over again and trying to draw it on the side. I’m mostly a traditional artist but I do sometimes use digital apps, so until I get muscle memory for basic shapes of the body I’ll use apps then try in my sketchbook.
I've been drawing off and on (mostly off) since grade school in the 90s. When I really got started drawing in middle-school, I traced pictures I thought were cool and characters from comic strips I liked. I did so mostly because it was an easy way to get my drawings to look the way I wanted. By high school I realized I didn't need to trace so much to make things recognizable, so I "graduated" to drawing by eye, freehand. I thought this was what I would do to improve from that point on. In reality, shortly after highschool I stagnated and procrastinated, and I haven't really made any progress in the past 20 years.
I've been hearing about "intentional" practice as the best way to improve. I've been trying gesture drawing and perspective practice, and while that's good practice, I'm not seeing the improvement I was hoping for, even when comparing the new with the old.
Now I come across this video. I hadn't considered tracing again. I thought I was beyond that, but I can see how it can make for some rapid improvement if done consistently and regularly. It made for extremely rapid improvement when I was a preteen, why not now that I'm pushing 40? I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks.
the way that i have done ur method and have LEVED TF UP ART WISE here is how
1) I only ever drew head shots before now i attempted drawing more
2)drew a whole pose when origially all my art was stiff and only shoulders up
3) More fluid that before and can do different angles than i could have done before
All i have to say is thank u because this practice has made perfect
Thank you so so so much for this idea, technique and explanation. It seems to me that the way you approach learning drawing is super brilliant.
Bruh you got an insane improvement in drawing, gg. I can feel the sweat and tears through my monitor x)
You've only been drawing since 2017? Geez, man. You deserve every success.
I'm SOOOOO happy i found your channel. Your videos have helped me so much in such a short time. Thank you!!
i've done something similar! I often trace the general shape of a reference and then sketch a new one from my trace, with some changes to the limbs' position and see if i like how the new pose feels.
Your growth these past couple years is so freaking inspirational! I wish you the best man.
Great tips!
I’ve also realized that distractions such as social media, and watching videos while I draw can hinder my ability to improve improve my skills. My advice, try to stay away from distraction and focus on your composition and art.
Thank you josh for this video I’ve gotten back into my art like 4 months ago and been drawing since I was 12 but seeing this definitely has be more focused on anatomy study it is very helpful thank you
for the longest time i thought all you did was copy drawing because those are the only videos that showed up in my feed. very impressed with your camera angles and your ability to foreshorten in a realistic way. super cool stuff.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I will take these tips and try to better my drawings!
Thank you for this video. This was a great reminder that shapes are the fundamentals for a reason. They're the building blocks of what art our will become. :D
you know this is a good channel when the first thing in the description is the other artists' credits, before anything else
You are really great artist all love for you !!! Thanks for teaching us !!!
Just had a massive breakdown since I couldn't get a single pose right and I felt like this was my limit for art so I should just stop but this video literally cured that and taught me how improve thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️
Me too I just always forget that you have to practice soo much to learn anatomy
I was told by an artist on Domestika from a course that I was doing (Portrait Sketchbooking: Explore the Human Face - the course). As I wanted to draw more portraits and get into portrait work in a realistic way that I possibly can sketch. To trace over and draw it again without looking at it/move it aside, this will help build up your muscle memory. I actually never thought to do this for the anatomy 😅
I find the anatomy so daunting! But I want to accomplish being able to build poses for my characters, so I am going to give this ago for a few months and see how it goes. Thank you for sharing 😁
hi ergojosh
this week i have beginning to follow your lesson, i need tbh this anatomy i can do with tracing and also copying but when i try to do it without guidelines i still need a lot of practice. but i will never give up to become a great artist like you and i will still follow your work. please keep up the awesome work
I want to learn to draw my favorite characters and my own characters I've created in a believable fashion. I also wish to draw them in any point of perspective. I see many methods to draw human anatomy, and I don't know where to start. It's all so overwhelming. I see the simplified forms route as confusing because I wonder if those forms are 'snapped' to a perspective grid and that I need to learn perspective and add all of those horizon line connections to each form. It's all so confusing and I feel very discouraged.
Look, I know that you've heard this so many times, but don't give up. I started drawing about 2 years ago. I wouldn't draw every day due to school assignments and because my schedule was full but sometimes I would manage to find time to draw smth. Up until now I've not learnt many things. I'm drawing by my finger in my phone. The app that I use it ibis paint x. As you can understand, there are several restrictions that I can't really avoid them. It is very frustrating but I prefer not to give up. I'm just like you, I wanna learn digital art to draw my fave characters (Atla) but I don't manage to do very well. These days I've been drawing almost every day and I saw a huge improvement compared to stuff I'd draw a year ago. I'm not a prodigy. I'm not like many others that can basically understand what's going on and learn it in a week or so. I do struggle a lot with anatomy and perspectives too. I can't draw side profiles. I barely can draw a 3/4. I've been thinking of buying a tablet and a stylus. I'm not really sure tho, if it will help me. Yeah the stylus is important, but I don't really think that a change in an app can make a big difference. Some apps have very useful tools, but I still believe that practice makes perfect. To be more honest, I do believe that practice makes permanent. So, perfect practice makes perfect. But don't give up. I know many people in social media that started from drawing only messed up sketches that turned out to be much better than I could ever imagine. And most of them in a span of months.
@@Alkinoos.Iosiphidis get a drawing tablet or a sketchbook and pencil just get the cheapest 10" one you can find
@@thompsonevergreen8006 Wish I could. I can afford a tablet but I don't know if it's worth it. I've tried a plenty of things in my life (most of the separate from one another), but I always tend to waste my time. I love digital art. I'm not gonna be bored, even if things don't turn out quite as predicted. But the budget will be wasted.
I'm glad you did this. I always felt like that type of practice wasn't allowed so i've really been holding myself back cuz it all just seems so intimidating. Thank you!
If only I could wield the power of warping and undo in practical illustration. Great advice all around and I'll be sure to add it to my practicing repertoire.
liked the video ill give it a try i most spend lunch break drawing circles to get better at free handing them its easy to do on lunch this might be a good exercise to toss in
omg this is the only anatomy video i could get that actually helps/makes sense :0 gracias, i am blown away🤯🤧
Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes improvement
-some guy
that's been in my head but i forgot who said it-
@@치추이 same lol
Thanks for this helpful video !
i subbed after the horizon reference, my man i love that
I can finally draw the male torso without any problems (also the head face etc.)Thank you so much currently at 7:19
when i was a kid i primarily drew by copying existing designs, it leaves you with little flexibility but it made it so much easier to make somethign that looked cool
Could you make a video about how you trace over images and section off the different body parts? As a newer artist, I find it quite difficult to really section them off in a systematic way so it always changes every time I trace over a new image and I feel that it isn't helping me as much as it could. Really great content though, I really appreciate your down to earth talks and how honest you are about improving and working toward art goals.
He makes it look so easy....
i lvoe your voice omg i just started the video and I don't wanna stop watching
Ergo Josh is underrated.
I've been drawing on and off since 2016 though since I got my tablet 2 years ago I've been trying to get it more constantly, suddenly I just lost all confidence in my anatomy. This video really helped thank you so much! This is super helpful!
I literally just need this so I can make storyboards not look as flat and easier to read when it comes to the characters
I never thought about it ! I'll try and let you know