Absolutely amazing game. I love games where you have to manage things and juggle the plates to keep everything going, this is a thinking player's game for sure. I used to play two point hospital and liked the thought process in that. As someone has touched on, the game presents you with problems that have multiple solutions, and complete freedom with how you organise and build. This type of game takes it to the next level. And they keep updating it with patches, it is still reasonably priced on Steam and well supported by mod writers. Magnet thank you for explaining all of this. I am going to find other walkthroughs of yours because I really like that conveyor setup, I have no idea how to use conveyors yet.
Good tips but not having bathrooms on their own dedicated water filter loop is just a recipe for disaster! (just don't forget a pressure release valve for when it backs up since you create water while dups use the loo!
@5:26 you say that Berry Sludge is more efficient, but in every recipe when its cooked the sleet wheat is contributing 400 calories per seed. While there is an "additional" 400 gained from Berry Sludge arguably that comes from the "cooking" of the bristle berry where it always "gains" 400 calories when cooked. Either into Gristle Berry or when made into Berry Sludge.
I meant moreso that it is efficient for the water used, and if you are relying on the natural sleet wheat (requiring no water). That allows me to really reduce the amount of blossoms I'm growing.
Berry Sludge has a nice benefit in Spaced Out I haven't seen many people touch on - its already 2 of 3 ingredients to make mixed berry pie. The other berries it uses are fed with sulfur which doesn't have much use otherwise, making it a relatively cheap quality 5 food if you have a sulfur geyser somewhere.
I never use the Algae Distiler and I totally forgot that it generates Polluted Water 😂... Good video, can't wait for your Spaced Out walkthrough, your base game one made me a decent player and now I'm running a full achievement run on Spaced Out, want to know what I could be missing 😊
For anyone looking for a truly *Mad* Scientist solution, petroleum boilers are water positive, and as long as you keep the petrol generators cold, the water is only 40C. That said, if getting water is the entire reason you're building a boiler, as opposed to literally any other use for petroleum and/or boilers, maybe you should stop and think if you actually *need* it.
....DUDE, BOTTLED LIQUIDS ARE *ALWAYS* FREEZING INTO SOLID TILES SO IT'S POSSIBLE TO MAKE ETHANOL DISTILLER RINNING SOLELY ON WILD ARBORS.............HEHE.....YUP, WITH BOTTLED LIQUID SULPHUR AND MOVE TOOL, HEHE.... ......YUP, 750g/s FOR KIND OF 32 WILD ARBORS ...... WHICH ARE RELATIVELY TIME CONSUMING TO PLANT,BUT *STILL* .............AND U MAY PUSH IT EVEN FURTHER BY ABUSING *_SUBLIMATION STATION+PUFT RANCHING+ALGAE DISTILLER_* , RIGHT????...... ........ OR HOW IT'LL LOOK AT NORMAL GAME I DONT KNOW, LIKE A ROW OF STORAGE BINS WITH GAS PUMPS, RIGHT????????........... .......... AND PETROLEUM BOILER IS LIKE "WHY" BECAUSE NATURAL GAS BOILER, RIGHT???…..
Nice a guide I really need. I have an overshadowing issue with water that my temperature always is horrid and feels unmanaged. And most solutions eat up power, costing important resources.. And boom dominoes keep falling, fixing issue after issue, cycle 1000 hit and another playthrough where I don't see space
1 - Emergency / basic power 1 - manual generator room on a main power line with batteries, transformers to send power where needed. Each dedicated dupe can average 350W or so per cycle, depending on schedule and distance from food/bedroom/bathroom 2 - Emergency power 2 - wood generators - only possible if you have arbor trees - incredibly inefficient, converting wood to ethanol is much better though still not an ideal power source 3 - Common power 1 - coal generators, maintained by hatches making coal (until their rocks run out... or you tame a volcano to make rock for stone hatches) 4 - Common power 2 - hydrogen/natgas generators with some backup tanks fed from 150C hydrogen/natgas vents and oil well venting (or larger early tamers to cool the 500C vents) 5 - Common power 3 - petroleum generators, dupe-operated refinery, capped output averaging 4.4KW per dupe, including down-times 6 - Intermediate power 1 - solar panels basically free power, but needs protection from meteors on meteor asteroids 7 - Intermediate power 2 - metal refinery and steam turbine combo - every metal refinement except gold will be power positive (even with AT cooling!), but requires starting input to get gains 8 - Intermediate power 3 - metal volcano tamers - passive in-chamber cooling down to ~140C with aquatuner, then forced cooling down to ~22C, overall power positive even with gold volcanos, no dupe labor or input resources needed once built, variable power but I never had any turn off. 9 - Intermediate power 4 -hot-core steam turbines - dig to near magma layer, build steam turbine chamber, build heat spike to touch magma, doors connected to temp sensors in steam room, most bases can be powered a thousand cycles with ten turbines here. Connect to smart battery and turn off when not needed to conserve your heat. Requires dupe labor to dig out rock and expand heat spike. 10 - Intermediate power 5 - arbor tree wood to ethanol for petroleum generators - sub-optimal for power, but great for making dirt. Dupe labor intensive for whole system, including parts outside of power production. 11 - Intermediate power 6 - petroleum boiler - use magma source to turn crude oil directly into petroleum for 100% conversion rate instead of refinery's 50% loss, can pump crude oil forever and burn 10KW of petroleum forever 12 - Advanced power 1 - magma volcano tamers - A map full of volcanos can basically be constant 20-30KW free power all the time forever 13 - Advanced power 2 - regolith cooler - space scanner, space doors, autominers and autosweepers move regolith to cooling chamber, can be constant 10KW forever 14 - Advanced power 3 - regolith melter - instead of cooling regolith, heat it up to magma where the potential energy in heat is magically multiplied by 5, then cool it similar to volcano tamer, can be constant 50KW forever 15 - Advanced power 4 - sour gas boiler - heat crude oil to sour gas, freeze it to methane, re-heat back to natural gas. Instead of petroleum boiler's constant 10KW, this will produce constant 50KW+ 16 - Advanced power 5 - rocket chamber - capture rocket exhaust heat and/or rocket exhaust for power with steam turbines - effective with petroleum and hydrogen rockets 17 - Advanced power 6 - nuclear reactor (Spaced Out DLC only) - basically generates heat for 12 steam turbines constantly, constant 10KW, radiation and nuclear waste can have important Spaced Out DLC uses. Main advantage is building these on asteroids with few natural power sources in addition to main asteroid for radiation uses. Required 10KG uranium per cycle, a beeta farm, and mining trips to uranium-rich space resource sites.
Algae terrariums are pretty good since it produces polutted water the loss in water for oxygen is minimal. It also removes CO2. Like 5 - 7of these can supply your whole base with oxygen (with some good gas pumping you can supply your whole base)
......DUDE, TRY TO ENTOMB FLOWER POT WITH STUFF LIKE SAND AND FORCE PIP TO PLANT SOMETHING OVER THERE SO THEN U CAN MULTIPLY THAT WHATEVER BY FLOWER POT'S "COPY SETTING" BUTTON ......SO U CAN ACTUALLY GROW LOTS OF DUSK CAPS LIKE FOR FREE, AND FRIED MUSHROOMS ARE +1 FOOD QUALITY, RIGHT????...... .......VERY NICE SURVIVAL TIP, I GUESS.... HEHE
How are Algae Terrariums *really* bad. Since you can recycle the polluted water back into water, they don't have a terribly high water cost. They aren't sustainable forever. But that small water loss seemed to be offset to me by the fact that they don't keep stopping at 1800g of pressure
Saying that mush bars are essentialy useless is kinda short sighted in my opinion since they give a very easy way to keep early game running for a long time
@@Magnet_MD I have all them already I just would love to have an advanced study of all the setups to learn The game is frustrating for food and supply before your out. I usually let a dupe die and bury them and rebuild the stone . and pick a new one . I love your videos. I own a huge Enterprise industrial servers and tower. SO I host many games to play on with friends . Everything from my Own atlas Grid Ark Grid, 7days to die ,rust Most any game . never added this one I hear there is a multiplayer mod for it. But this Game I fail at lol
I have a full set of saves from my Spaced Out walkthrough, at all stages of progress. Those might be useful! drive.google.com/drive/folders/1N2O7lx-JwIUlxcq-SYEh66S8Afi2HDQ-?usp=sharing
I fell in love with this game because there is so many solutions to different problems and it just depends on how you play the game.
I feel like the solution to almost every problem becomes aquatuner + steam turbine and it gets old fast
It's nice to have recent guides alot has changed in 1-3 years which is how long ago most oni content was posted
Thank you,magnet. Seriously. I’m pretty solid at this game but water is something I consistently struggle with long term
I always thought it strange that dupes dont need to drink water
I keep starting over with new skills and I get a bit further each run - this game is absolutely incredible
Absolutely amazing game. I love games where you have to manage things and juggle the plates to keep everything going, this is a thinking player's game for sure. I used to play two point hospital and liked the thought process in that. As someone has touched on, the game presents you with problems that have multiple solutions, and complete freedom with how you organise and build. This type of game takes it to the next level. And they keep updating it with patches, it is still reasonably priced on Steam and well supported by mod writers. Magnet thank you for explaining all of this. I am going to find other walkthroughs of yours because I really like that conveyor setup, I have no idea how to use conveyors yet.
Good tips but not having bathrooms on their own dedicated water filter loop is just a recipe for disaster! (just don't forget a pressure release valve for when it backs up since you create water while dups use the loo!
@5:26 you say that Berry Sludge is more efficient, but in every recipe when its cooked the sleet wheat is contributing 400 calories per seed. While there is an "additional" 400 gained from Berry Sludge arguably that comes from the "cooking" of the bristle berry where it always "gains" 400 calories when cooked. Either into Gristle Berry or when made into Berry Sludge.
I meant moreso that it is efficient for the water used, and if you are relying on the natural sleet wheat (requiring no water). That allows me to really reduce the amount of blossoms I'm growing.
@@Magnet_MD Oh yeah then that's fair, it sounded like you meant in absolute terms which confused me.
Berry Sludge has a nice benefit in Spaced Out I haven't seen many people touch on - its already 2 of 3 ingredients to make mixed berry pie. The other berries it uses are fed with sulfur which doesn't have much use otherwise, making it a relatively cheap quality 5 food if you have a sulfur geyser somewhere.
Great ideas, that last one is much easier to do than my usual steam geyser tame. lol
I never use the Algae Distiler and I totally forgot that it generates Polluted Water 😂... Good video, can't wait for your Spaced Out walkthrough, your base game one made me a decent player and now I'm running a full achievement run on Spaced Out, want to know what I could be missing 😊
It's on the way! Thank you :)
For anyone looking for a truly *Mad* Scientist solution, petroleum boilers are water positive, and as long as you keep the petrol generators cold, the water is only 40C.
That said, if getting water is the entire reason you're building a boiler, as opposed to literally any other use for petroleum and/or boilers, maybe you should stop and think if you actually *need* it.
....DUDE, BOTTLED LIQUIDS ARE *ALWAYS* FREEZING INTO SOLID TILES SO IT'S POSSIBLE TO MAKE ETHANOL DISTILLER RINNING SOLELY ON WILD ARBORS.............HEHE.....YUP, WITH BOTTLED LIQUID SULPHUR AND MOVE TOOL, HEHE....
......YUP, 750g/s FOR KIND OF 32 WILD ARBORS ...... WHICH ARE RELATIVELY TIME CONSUMING TO PLANT,BUT *STILL* .............AND U MAY PUSH IT EVEN FURTHER BY ABUSING *_SUBLIMATION STATION+PUFT RANCHING+ALGAE DISTILLER_* , RIGHT????......
........ OR HOW IT'LL LOOK AT NORMAL GAME I DONT KNOW, LIKE A ROW OF STORAGE BINS WITH GAS PUMPS, RIGHT????????...........
.......... AND PETROLEUM BOILER IS LIKE "WHY" BECAUSE NATURAL GAS BOILER, RIGHT???…..
There is also the long chimney/catch off steam from steam rocket engines solution but that is for crazy builds with too many Dupes I'd say.
300+ views in 2h is not bad, not bad indeed
lol, i read that thubnail as "help, Iran out of water, lets fix it"
How do you deal with the mass of wire and pipes/vents my base looks like the wire drawer you keep the old wires in 😂
Haha, they will all look like that to some degree! Just do your best :)
That water cooling method with ice is a cool new trick
Nice a guide I really need.
I have an overshadowing issue with water that my temperature always is horrid and feels unmanaged. And most solutions eat up power, costing important resources.. And boom dominoes keep falling, fixing issue after issue, cycle 1000 hit and another playthrough where I don't see space
Sometimes that happens! For me,, this game was all about making mistakes and not repeating them the next time.
1 - Emergency / basic power 1 - manual generator room on a main power line with batteries, transformers to send power where needed. Each dedicated dupe can average 350W or so per cycle, depending on schedule and distance from food/bedroom/bathroom
2 - Emergency power 2 - wood generators - only possible if you have arbor trees - incredibly inefficient, converting wood to ethanol is much better though still not an ideal power source
3 - Common power 1 - coal generators, maintained by hatches making coal (until their rocks run out... or you tame a volcano to make rock for stone hatches)
4 - Common power 2 - hydrogen/natgas generators with some backup tanks fed from 150C hydrogen/natgas vents and oil well venting (or larger early tamers to cool the 500C vents)
5 - Common power 3 - petroleum generators, dupe-operated refinery, capped output averaging 4.4KW per dupe, including down-times
6 - Intermediate power 1 - solar panels basically free power, but needs protection from meteors on meteor asteroids
7 - Intermediate power 2 - metal refinery and steam turbine combo - every metal refinement except gold will be power positive (even with AT cooling!), but requires starting input to get gains
8 - Intermediate power 3 - metal volcano tamers - passive in-chamber cooling down to ~140C with aquatuner, then forced cooling down to ~22C, overall power positive even with gold volcanos, no dupe labor or input resources needed once built, variable power but I never had any turn off.
9 - Intermediate power 4 -hot-core steam turbines - dig to near magma layer, build steam turbine chamber, build heat spike to touch magma, doors connected to temp sensors in steam room, most bases can be powered a thousand cycles with ten turbines here. Connect to smart battery and turn off when not needed to conserve your heat. Requires dupe labor to dig out rock and expand heat spike.
10 - Intermediate power 5 - arbor tree wood to ethanol for petroleum generators - sub-optimal for power, but great for making dirt. Dupe labor intensive for whole system, including parts outside of power production.
11 - Intermediate power 6 - petroleum boiler - use magma source to turn crude oil directly into petroleum for 100% conversion rate instead of refinery's 50% loss, can pump crude oil forever and burn 10KW of petroleum forever
12 - Advanced power 1 - magma volcano tamers - A map full of volcanos can basically be constant 20-30KW free power all the time forever
13 - Advanced power 2 - regolith cooler - space scanner, space doors, autominers and autosweepers move regolith to cooling chamber, can be constant 10KW forever
14 - Advanced power 3 - regolith melter - instead of cooling regolith, heat it up to magma where the potential energy in heat is magically multiplied by 5, then cool it similar to volcano tamer, can be constant 50KW forever
15 - Advanced power 4 - sour gas boiler - heat crude oil to sour gas, freeze it to methane, re-heat back to natural gas. Instead of petroleum boiler's constant 10KW, this will produce constant 50KW+
16 - Advanced power 5 - rocket chamber - capture rocket exhaust heat and/or rocket exhaust for power with steam turbines - effective with petroleum and hydrogen rockets
17 - Advanced power 6 - nuclear reactor (Spaced Out DLC only) - basically generates heat for 12 steam turbines constantly, constant 10KW, radiation and nuclear waste can have important Spaced Out DLC uses. Main advantage is building these on asteroids with few natural power sources in addition to main asteroid for radiation uses. Required 10KG uranium per cycle, a beeta farm, and mining trips to uranium-rich space resource sites.
Algae terrariums are pretty good since it produces polutted water the loss in water for oxygen is minimal. It also removes CO2. Like 5 - 7of these can supply your whole base with oxygen (with some good gas pumping you can supply your whole base)
As a last resource cooling solution i used to mine ice and create sculptures with it using the quick mouse flick trick
I always used the tempshift plate, which uses way more ice (thus cool more) and be placed almost anywhere, but takes longer to build.
Mushbars are a very useful tool. Almost all of my playthroughs will keep mushbar production as an emergency option
......DUDE, TRY TO ENTOMB FLOWER POT WITH STUFF LIKE SAND AND FORCE PIP TO PLANT SOMETHING OVER THERE SO THEN U CAN MULTIPLY THAT WHATEVER BY FLOWER POT'S "COPY SETTING" BUTTON
......SO U CAN ACTUALLY GROW LOTS OF DUSK CAPS LIKE FOR FREE, AND FRIED MUSHROOMS ARE +1 FOOD QUALITY, RIGHT????......
.......VERY NICE SURVIVAL TIP, I GUESS.... HEHE
Lord, I accidentally run into having TOO much water to not enough then too much over and over lol.
How are Algae Terrariums *really* bad. Since you can recycle the polluted water back into water, they don't have a terribly high water cost. They aren't sustainable forever. But that small water loss seemed to be offset to me by the fact that they don't keep stopping at 1800g of pressure
Saying that mush bars are essentialy useless is kinda short sighted in my opinion since they give a very easy way to keep early game running for a long time
One word, Geyser
Disinfecting gives experience in athletics (or something) so I leave it on these days
can someone send a game file that is advanced like that to study and learn ?
Are you wanting a save file from the Spaced Out DLC or just the base game?
@@Magnet_MD I have all them already I just would love to have an advanced study of all the setups to learn The game is frustrating for food and supply before your out. I usually let a dupe die and bury them and rebuild the stone . and pick a new one . I love your videos. I own a huge Enterprise industrial servers and tower. SO I host many games to play on with friends . Everything from my Own atlas Grid Ark Grid, 7days to die ,rust Most any game . never added this one I hear there is a multiplayer mod for it. But this Game I fail at lol
I have a full set of saves from my Spaced Out walkthrough, at all stages of progress. Those might be useful!
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1N2O7lx-JwIUlxcq-SYEh66S8Afi2HDQ-?usp=sharing
Thank you Man your great even though my games are like third world countries I call mine Biden's America lol
Actually the way of how to get water (for me) is the last and hardest method. And, even i cant create enough water!
blossoms is not advaisable early game really