Thanks for demonstrating the extreme. I at times lose track of how to eat, try to incorporate my homemade keto bread or snacks. I lost. Then I go back to basics with eggs, bacon, meat, and my healthy fats. Glad you brought subject up.
I like how you used the absurdity of “KETO” snacks to make your point! It’s caused me to rethink and apply the whole car approach. It’ll keep everyone healthier and out of trouble! 👍
This really hit home for me - I've been on keto (again) since the beginning of January, but I have a "keto" wrap every day for lunch (with cold cuts and cheese), plus whatever other carbs I eat during the day (veggies, eggs, heavy cream, cheese, coffee, etc.) I'm sure that I'm eating well over 20 total carbs a day, which explains my glacial weight loss. My sugars are SO much better, though (from over 200 to high normal), which tells me that I'm not totally blowing it, but I need to really tighten up on the packaged stuff and just stick to meat and some veggies. Period. Thanks for this!
thank you for being there for us much appreciated. New to Keto and lost some weight but this net carb - carb thing was driving me nuts - I am 73 and already losing it mentally without this carb game. I love meat but don't eat so much of it any more but do dairy butter cheese, cream, and oils. I just started making my own keto bread and the rye is out of this world but only have 1 piece per day or not. I also fast from around 7 PM till 1 PM the next day everyday. My blood sugars A1C for the last 3 years have been 6.9 no meds. and now they are 6.4 and hoping in 3 months 6.0 or less. Love this program and thanks to you and others life is good. Now if I can only get my blood pressure down by diet no meds. God Bless you all!!!
This is one reason why it's important to do keto blood tests once in a while as well. It's definitely good to not play the net carb game on processed packaged food.
I always pay attention to total carbs, but it did open my eyes to the fact I may be eating too much fat! I can't seem to commit myself to keto or carnivore. I go back and forth, not really sticking to either. I want to be mostly carnivore and just have a couple days a week where I can have some veggies. I'm a hot mess! Thank you for telling it like it is. We WISH net carbs were the proper measurement, but reality tells us it is not. I don't eat very many things that come in a container or wrapper anyway because I don't trust the ingredient list. I so enjoy your channel and appreciate how honest you are and how much you want to help all of us. God bless you both!
Going back and forth is still under the "PHD - Proper Human Diet" umbrella per Dr Berry. But I do think some of us need to alternate lower fat once in awhile too. I'm going to try adding 2-3 days a week of PSMF (Protein Sparing Modified Fast) as promoted by Maria Emmerich and The Keto Naturopath and others. But you need to mix in higher fat days too or you can wreck your metabolism.
I needed this video. have been making too many keto treats/shakes and telling myself it's ok because it makes it "sustainable " for me. I still have lots of physical healing to go, so why am I rationalizing.... Prayers for you both as you shine your light during the competitions.
I started getting into all those keto cheat snacks and counting net carbs and it ruined my weight loss for a while. It caused me to start binge eating again and then I realized I needed to count total carbs instead of net because my weight lost cut in half after eating all the “cheats” and counting net. After that realization I went strict carnivore and I felt like I took my diet and weight loss to a whole new level. I know not everyone needs to go carnivore but it was the best choice for me… which is ironic since I use to be a raw vegan!
I really needed to hear this today to help me understand why I haven't been able to lose weight. Thank you for such a good explanation and a clearer understanding.
Great!! Just found your channel thanks to Steve@seriousketo and Keto Chow. This subject of Net Carbs vs total carbs has been giving me headaches for weeks. I use carb manager to log my food and is synchs with my fit bit which subtracts carbs from my total and carb manager then subtracts fiber etc and gives me net carbs. Problem is I was gaining weight. Now I know I was right thanks to you guys I will only use total carbs. Thank you soooooo much.
The strength training is probably the key factor. But then we all have different experiences cause we’ve all lived and our guts probably vary a bit … I think. I’m 56 and I wish all women understood how important strength training is ❤
Thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t losing any more weight. Now I’m trying not to eat sugar alcohols. I’m staying away from Erythrotol and other sugar alcohols. I have food allergies so I really have to eat fresh whole food. After reading a few labels at the store, it is easier for me to just stay away from them. Hopefully I’ll start to lose weight again. Thank you again.
I joined the 2KK Facebook group. Thank you for the add!! This group is awesome!! I have already received much information I really needed!! Counting regular carbs is the best!!
I started with total carbs because I didn't know net carbs were a thing until a year in .Guess what happened when I started counting net carbs ? Yep gain weight !
What were you eating? I have always counted net carbs and had no problem losing weight. Because, ultimately weight loss does come down to CICO. also net vs total carbs come down to what you are eating. Broccoli vs keto sweets.
@@chloezapata4152 Sharing personal experience is not the same as belief in one's superiority over another. I was simply sharing my experience. Don't misinterpret or mischaraterize peoples motives.
You mention how much protein are in the Quest product but what type of protein is that. Can you explain to us about the types of protein. How does that protein compare as value to. our bodies with the protein in steak or eggs. Thank you. Have you done a video on protein types?
👏👏👏👏 Well done. Let’s face it, we will count net carbs to fit more junk into our diet. If you’re counting total carbs you will make better choices. For people starting out these products are a help but our end goal is to eat real food. 6 years ago this video would have made me sad but now I’d take a steak over peanut butter cups any day. Great video guys ❤
And then there's those of us with wrecked digestive systems who can't eat even just ONE of those Quest PB cups (half a pkg) without running to the toilet 😮
Thanks for sharing with us. I'm in my 4th year of keto lifestyle and have gradually become too flexible in my choices and inches have come back🤪 I need to re-think and pray about it. Have a blessed week 💜 🙏 ✌️ ☃️ 🎶 🌞
The problem is FDA labeling rules. Some ingredients are allowed to be labeled as "fiber" but actually spike many people's blood glucose. Insoluble fiber is fine for me, has no impact on blood glucose and no impact on ketones.
I love the simplicity of how in your face and true this video is! I also love how kind and gentle you were with it. Many people only know what they are marketed to know... putting 13/14 packs in front of you makes it very real, and very visceral! Can't wait for the whip cream video!
Great topic! Reading labels is critical and absolutely essential. I see total carbs around 24 yet net is maybe only 2 and it scares the bejesus out of me! I put it down like it’s a hot potato.
Thank you thank you thank you! I’m not loosing any weight. I’m 5’ 1” 199.4 pounds and my waist measurement is dangerously large. I’m also battling diabetes. I’ve managed through diet change to significantly lower my blood sugar the last 2 months. But and it’s a big but, I got sucked into the low carb packaged food thinking it would help me stick to the new way of eating better. Now I realize I’ve been sabotaging myself big time. I’ve been wanting to try carnivore bars and the keto bricks. Haven’t because of cost. But maybe I can if I stop spending my money on the “keto” packed food lies.
I went from 243 to 160 doing the total carbs- fiber version of net carbs. When I heard to subtract sugar alcohols, I said uh-oh this is sounding suspicious, so I ignored that. And also tried to look at ingredients instead of the “keto-friendly” plastered on the front of the packaging. I just went straight to the ingredient list after looking at the total carbs.
This is where being strict pays. This is the keto-ultra-processed food you shouldn’t have. Stick to whole foods. There are people who can moderate, most of us can’t.
Wow wow wow. Thank you for the indepth review. Never took all of the other points (calories, fat, etc) in to consideration when doing net carbs. EYE-OPENER
Wow, what a great message! I follow Dr. Westman's less than 20 total carbs a day, but this video really points out the absurdity of Net Carbs. Thank you!
I have always looked at net carbs as the loophole for those who couldn't commit. I felt the same folks doing net carbs are the ones more invested in a 'cheat day' than minding what they are eating the rest of the week. No shortcuts for me. Total carbs all the way.
If I ate 20 packs of those peanut butter cups it would ruffle my innards more than my feathers. I’d be so inflamed I’d be at the hospital. Another thing I’m seeing on nutrition labels is the calories listed don’t count the fiber. They’re subtracting the calories on the label. I’ll post one on mighty networks. Thank you for this video!
Yep. My fasting insulin went from 3 to 12. While ketovore with sweetners I’m now bbbe and will not put sweetners back. Except KC once a week. After 3 mts bbbe
I’m in my third full time year of keto of some sort of strictness’s level. First year was net carbs, after that it’s all whole carbs now. I’ve since converted Susan as well. Xoxo
As a type 1 diabetic I got sucked into the net carb game but tested it with the quest cups and I went high on my blood sugar so I don't trust it anymore either. I do have them as a treat once in a while though.
I just started keto a month ago and I do not carbs however I refuse to play the allulose game. Looked at nicks ice cream it 48 net carbs per serving but box says less than 4 net carbs per pint. I subtract fiber and sugar alcohols and it still has 30 something carbs per serving. I don't trust that allulose is so miraculous it cancels out that many carbs. Worst things I eat are Smuckers organic peanut butter and reddish whip
allulose is actually better than sugar alcohols and it lowers glucose. The fibers are actually the biggest concern. most “soluble corn fibers” spike glucose and should be counted
Can you now do a video on, FIBER! So many people tell me to do NET carbs cuz we NEED fiber. Do we? How we going to get fiber eating BBBE or the true authentic KETO ?
Not related to this video but question about faith and taking communion. I’m carnivore and I struggled with taking communion. I know had to ask for forgiveness and just take the bread and grape juice. I know its just a tiny bit but how do you guys deal with this?
Weight loss will NOT happen if you are counting net carbs. It may happen at first just because you are consuming fewer carbs than you are consuming on the SAD, but over time, it will stop. TOTAL carbs is the way to go. And if you are a sugar addict like myself, these types of 'treats' can NOT be a part of my diet because they ultimately lead me to go off the rails.
![Dr Berry & Dr Eric Westman [KETO Truths & Keto Myths]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sIhyWBAglcY/mqdefault.jpg)
Shared to my group. Newbies need to know and even many others. Thank you.
Thanks for demonstrating the extreme. I at times lose track of how to eat, try to incorporate my homemade keto bread or snacks. I lost.
Then I go back to basics with eggs, bacon, meat, and my healthy fats. Glad you brought subject up.
Well said👍
Really eye opening! Thanks sooooo much!
I like how you used the absurdity of “KETO” snacks to make your point! It’s caused me to rethink and apply the whole car approach. It’ll keep everyone healthier and out of trouble! 👍
This really hit home for me - I've been on keto (again) since the beginning of January, but I have a "keto" wrap every day for lunch (with cold cuts and cheese), plus whatever other carbs I eat during the day (veggies, eggs, heavy cream, cheese, coffee, etc.) I'm sure that I'm eating well over 20 total carbs a day, which explains my glacial weight loss. My sugars are SO much better, though (from over 200 to high normal), which tells me that I'm not totally blowing it, but I need to really tighten up on the packaged stuff and just stick to meat and some veggies. Period. Thanks for this!
thank you for being there for us much appreciated. New to Keto and lost some weight but this net carb - carb thing was driving me nuts - I am 73 and already losing it mentally without this carb game. I love meat but don't eat so much of it any more but do dairy butter cheese, cream, and oils. I just started making my own keto bread and the rye is out of this world but only have 1 piece per day or not. I also fast from around 7 PM till 1 PM the next day everyday. My blood sugars A1C for the last 3 years have been 6.9 no meds. and now they are 6.4 and hoping in 3 months 6.0 or less. Love this program and thanks to you and others life is good. Now if I can only get my blood pressure down by diet no meds. God Bless you all!!!
This is one reason why it's important to do keto blood tests once in a while as well. It's definitely good to not play the net carb game on processed packaged food.
I always pay attention to total carbs, but it did open my eyes to the fact I may be eating too much fat! I can't seem to commit myself to keto or carnivore. I go back and forth, not really sticking to either. I want to be mostly carnivore and just have a couple days a week where I can have some veggies. I'm a hot mess! Thank you for telling it like it is. We WISH net carbs were the proper measurement, but reality tells us it is not. I don't eat very many things that come in a container or wrapper anyway because I don't trust the ingredient list. I so enjoy your channel and appreciate how honest you are and how much you want to help all of us. God bless you both!
Going back and forth is still under the "PHD - Proper Human Diet" umbrella per Dr Berry. But I do think some of us need to alternate lower fat once in awhile too. I'm going to try adding 2-3 days a week of PSMF (Protein Sparing Modified Fast) as promoted by Maria Emmerich and The Keto Naturopath and others. But you need to mix in higher fat days too or you can wreck your metabolism.
Great video, thank you so much for all your information‼️
I needed this video. have been making too many keto treats/shakes and telling myself it's ok because it makes it "sustainable " for me. I still have lots of physical healing to go, so why am I rationalizing.... Prayers for you both as you shine your light during the competitions.
You are not alone 😬 thanks Joe and Rachel🥰
I started getting into all those keto cheat snacks and counting net carbs and it ruined my weight loss for a while. It caused me to start binge eating again and then I realized I needed to count total carbs instead of net because my weight lost cut in half after eating all the “cheats” and counting net.
After that realization I went strict carnivore and I felt like I took my diet and weight loss to a whole new level. I know not everyone needs to go carnivore but it was the best choice for me… which is ironic since I use to be a raw vegan!
I really needed to hear this today to help me understand why I haven't been able to lose weight. Thank you for such a good explanation and a clearer understanding.
👏🏼💓Great info! 👍🏼
Great!! Just found your channel thanks to Steve@seriousketo and Keto Chow. This subject of Net Carbs vs total carbs has been giving me headaches for weeks. I use carb manager to log my food and is synchs with my fit bit which subtracts carbs from my total and carb manager then subtracts fiber etc and gives me net carbs. Problem is I was gaining weight. Now I know I was right thanks to you guys I will only use total carbs. Thank you soooooo much.
THANK YOU 🙏 so helpful that you did this video. Never had success on keto and now I know why!
I lost 140 lbs down to a 20 bmi with 10% body fat doing net carbs and strength training . Not bad for a 67 year old female. To each his own I guess.
The strength training is probably the key factor. But then we all have different experiences cause we’ve all lived and our guts probably vary a bit … I think. I’m 56 and I wish all women understood how important strength training is ❤
Damn! Congratulations! Pray for me to do the same, friend!
@@hremaddox do the best you can be to be consistent. It's not a race
@gp4708 yes! I'm strength training and keto with my son. Hopefully, i can get where i need to be. 😀
Excellent explanation of the net carb thing. Thanks for ruffling feathers. Let’s hope people get the point. I always watch total carbs. Always.
Fantastic visual on the difference between total and net carbs!
❤❤ thank you! I needed to hear this today ❤️❤️
Thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t losing any more weight. Now I’m trying not to eat sugar alcohols. I’m staying away from Erythrotol and other sugar alcohols. I have food allergies so I really have to eat fresh whole food. After reading a few labels at the store, it is easier for me to just stay away from them. Hopefully I’ll start to lose weight again. Thank you again.
Thanks this was a really good, informative and easy to understand discussion. I was eating a lot of keto snacks but I don't crave them much anymore
I joined the 2KK Facebook group. Thank you for the add!! This group is awesome!! I have already received much information I really needed!! Counting regular carbs is the best!!
I started with total carbs because I didn't know net carbs were a thing until a year in .Guess what happened when I started counting net carbs ? Yep gain weight !
What were you eating? I have always counted net carbs and had no problem losing weight. Because, ultimately weight loss does come down to CICO. also net vs total carbs come down to what you are eating. Broccoli vs keto sweets.
@@Benjamin-to2zqGood to know you are so much better than the rest of us.
@@chloezapata4152 Sharing personal experience is not the same as belief in one's superiority over another. I was simply sharing my experience. Don't misinterpret or mischaraterize peoples motives.
You mention how much protein are in the Quest product but what type of protein is that. Can you explain to us about the types of protein. How does that protein compare as value to. our bodies with the protein in steak or eggs. Thank you. Have you done a video on protein types?
I am so glad I never started the net carb route!!!
👏👏👏👏 Well done. Let’s face it, we will count net carbs to fit more junk into our diet. If you’re counting total carbs you will make better choices. For people starting out these products are a help but our end goal is to eat real food. 6 years ago this video would have made me sad but now I’d take a steak over peanut butter cups any day. Great video guys ❤
👏👏
Excellent video!
And then there's those of us with wrecked digestive systems who can't eat even just ONE of those Quest PB cups (half a pkg) without running to the toilet 😮
Happy Sunday! I was totally a net carb girl till I started following you guys! Game changer!
The other question would be: what is the fat in it made of? Seed oils are toxic.
Thanks for sharing with us. I'm in my 4th year of keto lifestyle and have gradually become too flexible in my choices and inches have come back🤪 I need to re-think and pray about it. Have a blessed week 💜 🙏 ✌️ ☃️ 🎶 🌞
Ruffle those feathers! You hit the nail on the head for so many of us that want to believe they don’t really count. Trigger foods for sure.
Thanks. Makes sense
The problem is FDA labeling rules. Some ingredients are allowed to be labeled as "fiber" but actually spike many people's blood glucose. Insoluble fiber is fine for me, has no impact on blood glucose and no impact on ketones.
I love the simplicity of how in your face and true this video is! I also love how kind and gentle you were with it. Many people only know what they are marketed to know... putting 13/14 packs in front of you makes it very real, and very visceral! Can't wait for the whip cream video!
Great topic! Reading labels is critical and absolutely essential. I see total carbs around 24 yet net is maybe only 2 and it scares the bejesus out of me! I put it down like it’s a hot potato.
Thank you so much for this! It totally opened my eyes!❤❤❤❤
Thank you thank you thank you! I’m not loosing any weight. I’m 5’ 1” 199.4 pounds and my waist measurement is dangerously large. I’m also battling diabetes. I’ve managed through diet change to significantly lower my blood sugar the last 2 months. But and it’s a big but, I got sucked into the low carb packaged food thinking it would help me stick to the new way of eating better. Now I realize I’ve been sabotaging myself big time. I’ve been wanting to try carnivore bars and the keto bricks. Haven’t because of cost. But maybe I can if I stop spending my money on the “keto” packed food lies.
I went from 243 to 160 doing the total carbs- fiber version of net carbs. When I heard to subtract sugar alcohols, I said uh-oh this is sounding suspicious, so I ignored that. And also tried to look at ingredients instead of the “keto-friendly” plastered on the front of the packaging. I just went straight to the ingredient list after looking at the total carbs.
This is where being strict pays. This is the keto-ultra-processed food you shouldn’t have. Stick to whole foods. There are people who can moderate, most of us can’t.
Happy Sunday friends!
Wow wow wow. Thank you for the indepth review. Never took all of the other points (calories, fat, etc) in to consideration when doing net carbs. EYE-OPENER
Enjoyed the carb/net carb show, totally agree, only count total carbs.
Wow, what a great message! I follow Dr. Westman's less than 20 total carbs a day, but this video really points out the absurdity of Net Carbs. Thank you!
I have never counted carbs in coffe or eggs.😮
I been knew, but I love getting reminders! Love y'all! 😚
Stomach problems for sure
I have always looked at net carbs as the loophole for those who couldn't commit. I felt the same folks doing net carbs are the ones more invested in a 'cheat day' than minding what they are eating the rest of the week. No shortcuts for me. Total carbs all the way.
Excellent example...thanks for the much needed visual 😊
If I ate 20 packs of those peanut butter cups it would ruffle my innards more than my feathers. I’d be so inflamed I’d be at the hospital. Another thing I’m seeing on nutrition labels is the calories listed don’t count the fiber. They’re subtracting the calories on the label. I’ll post one on mighty networks. Thank you for this video!
Quitting resses cups , kit kats and frosted mini wheat is as hard as quitting cigarettes.
I certainly hope no one would eat a whole box for their days meal
People who have an addiction to sugar and carbs can be known to eat whole boxes of a lot of things to “ try” and soothe their sweet tooth..❤
@@Rositasparks for sure! I’m an obstainer. I can’t have even a bite or it sends me down into a total binge.
@@heathermattice5624I’m in the same boat as you ❤
When I tried net carbs I went crazy because not all labels did not show soluble and insoluble fiber so I just counted total
Once in a while I don’t count at all and just make sure I’m eating keto snacks/foods. It’s more like a fun day. But definitely not an every day thing.
This Net Carb video was eye opening information
Yep. My fasting insulin went from 3 to 12. While ketovore with sweetners I’m now bbbe and will not put sweetners back. Except KC once a week. After 3 mts bbbe
I’m in my third full time year of keto of some sort of strictness’s level. First year was net carbs, after that it’s all whole carbs now. I’ve since converted Susan as well. Xoxo
As a type 1 diabetic I got sucked into the net carb game but tested it with the quest cups and I went high on my blood sugar so I don't trust it anymore either. I do have them as a treat once in a while though.
Hello, 2KK family!
I just started keto a month ago and I do not carbs however I refuse to play the allulose game. Looked at nicks ice cream it 48 net carbs per serving but box says less than 4 net carbs per pint. I subtract fiber and sugar alcohols and it still has 30 something carbs per serving. I don't trust that allulose is so miraculous it cancels out that many carbs. Worst things I eat are Smuckers organic peanut butter and reddish whip
Net carbs that is.
allulose is actually better than sugar alcohols and it lowers glucose. The fibers are actually the biggest concern. most “soluble corn fibers” spike glucose and should be counted
Can you now do a video on, FIBER! So many people tell me to do NET carbs cuz we NEED fiber. Do we? How we going to get fiber eating BBBE or the true authentic KETO ?
Not related to this video but question about faith and taking communion. I’m carnivore and I struggled with taking communion. I know had to ask for forgiveness and just take the bread and grape juice. I know its just a tiny bit but how do you guys deal with this?
For me, personally, yes. I do need to count total carbs. Under 20..way under most days.
I want to see a Bloopers reel🎉❤
So for something like keto chow (which I love) you count the total carbs on it?
Yes!
Guys, you are driving me to go Carnivore! Just kidding, I am going Carnivore anyway, starting in February, and may extend to 90 days or longer.
This is why I’ve failed on a keto diet, the “food” making it look like other foods. 😒😵💫
❤❤❤
Not one single sweet thing...not artificial sweetener, not real sugar.. broccoli tastes sweet to me when I occasionally fall of my Carnivore wagon
Weight loss will NOT happen if you are counting net carbs. It may happen at first just because you are consuming fewer carbs than you are consuming on the SAD, but over time, it will stop. TOTAL carbs is the way to go. And if you are a sugar addict like myself, these types of 'treats' can NOT be a part of my diet because they ultimately lead me to go off the rails.
That's exactly me as well!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video....keto snacks are really deceiving people.
😀
you guys sound so fake
You guys know that that's not real food. Ketosis is one thing, but malnutrition is another. I don't know what this channel is about anymore.
I really needed to hear this! Thank you! 🙏🏻
😃