Bryan Kohberger Trial Date to Be Set in Idaho Student Murders Case
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The quadruple college murders that captured the nation's attention may soon have a trial date set. Judge John Judge has scheduled a hearing with prosecutors and Bryan Kohberger's defense team to discuss a trial date, as well as whether the trial will move out of Latah County. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber analyzes the latest arguments with law professor and evidence expert Jules Epstein.
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400 witnesses is ridiculous
Makes ya feel better not all 400 will testify. We’re talking everyone that was at the bar the girls were at, everyone at the party Xana & Ethan were at, LE, etc they are probably going to at least try & talk to all of them
Not really. People need to remember that there are four victims and 2 survivors - they will interview potential witnesses for all of them whereas usually a trial is for one victim. The house was completely surrounded by tightly packed apts and home full of potential witnesses who might have seen or heard something, in addition to what Cycle-Breaker said above.
I’m a long-time Moscow resident. I know all the roads in the area quite well. But us “locals” are only a fairly small percentage of the total population. The population is pretty transient, Moscow being a college town and many residents being connected to the university. It’s a stepping stone community for doctors and other professionals, who often move on for better opportunities. My point is just that not everybody who lives in the area knows about it in depth. Moreover, not everyone knows about the BK case in details-not time for it or not very interested. An impartial jury could be impaneled from the area. Move it to Lewiston, which is a larger town. Among Lewiston, Moscow, and Pullman there would be plenty of accommodations for everyone. Let’s get the show on the road!
I agree with you. Not everyone follows true crime stories.
A tiny town; only 17.5 km2.😂
@@Anti-Fake-ul9oe big enough for a state university and a court house....
I suppose a jury of his peers would be students, but I don't like that idea at all. Not at all.
Lets get this rolling!! The victims, their family and their friends deserve justice.
Yeah this is terrible how long is being dragged out. His lawyer knows she's effed so she's trying to do like Trump and delay delay delay
@@my_RS4 she likes that money coming in. And she's probably going to gain publicity and run for an office. Shes gonna milk it
They got the wrong guy, watch
@@kingjoseph5901lol
These things take time, it’s a quadruple murder it’s more important they get it right then the families getting justice ASAP
My favorite part is that the closed captions call him "cob Berger" 😂
Corn cob burger. HENCEFORTH, he shall be known by that name
The cob berger murderer. Sounds catchy.
I call him cold burger, fit him well
Corn on the cob has nothing on cob Berger but pooping corn. He's popping with guilt. Popcorn anyone? Let's get this trail popping forward? 😂 I'll bring the butter. 🍿🧈
15:44 If I think I'm Bryan Kohberger and innocent, I would make eye contact with the audience during every hearing and whisper "I did not do this". Especially the parents. Instead, he seems to be enjoying his limelight.
He absolutely loves the attention. Is disgusting to see honestly. And I’m still trying to understand why is he allowed to go to his hearings without cuffs and in a suit.
He’s not allowed to speak to the victims. He can’t speak to anyone but his attorney and the judge! He can’t make eye contact either.
@@laurajackson54 Such a law-abiding citizen and sweet boy!
If your innocent why would you want them dragging feet you know your GUILTY
Seems people care more about the offender than the victims as per usual. There hasn’t been any injustice here. The offender has been treated very well.
Exactly 💯 justice for kaylee ❤maddie ❤ethan ❤xana ❤ 🕊 🕊 🕊 🕊
The only thing i see as a positive at this moment is he is sitting in jail with nowhere to go and no one else to hurt.
Do we even know that he's guilty of the crimes, though? One thing that's certain is whoever did hurt those girls must have been provoked. Whether it was the partying on weeknights, the beer bottles that were carelessly discarded on other peoples' property, or the girls' standoffish attitude toward law enforcement, we'll never know for sure.
@@Zenigundam victim blame much
@Zenigundam that's what a trial is for 🤦♀️ and way to victim blame.
@@Zenigundamyeah nah.
@@Zenigundamif he innocent he should have brought an Albi long ago to be set free… if anyone has an Albi they should have brought it long ago not sitting in jail 🤷♂️my two cents
Hope you feel better soon Jesse 😊
The comments made about it being a big national case but as someone in New Zealand who is still keeping up with all the details it is an INTERNATIONAL case. Love the hard work you all do to keep us updated
Jesse, are you sick? Didn’t even know it was you as I wasn’t looking at the screen.
18:21 Judge Judge needs to exert his dominance already.
I have asked so many friends about this case and they have not heard about it.
Do you live in the area this happened?
@@oldfordman68 The lady above does, and shes said the same thing.
@lyndaalbrecht7006
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I’m a long-time Moscow resident. I know all the roads in the area quite well. But us “locals” are only a fairly small percentage of the total population. The population is pretty transient, Moscow being a college town and many residents being connected to the university. It’s a stepping stone community for doctors and other professionals, who often move on for better opportunities. My point is just that not everybody who lives in the area knows about it in depth. Moreover, not everyone knows about the BK case in details-not time for it or not very interested. An impartial jury could be impaneled from the area. Move it to Lewiston, which is a larger town. Among Lewiston, Moscow, and Pullman there would be plenty of accommodations for everyone. Let’s get the show on the road!
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Even in Europe, many chanced upong the case.
I think BK song has changed toons, from when he was arrested. Remember when he wanted to rush back to Idaho, so he could prove his innocence? Let’s face it, the prosecution has much more than the defense ever thought. They are already thinking of fighting it in the future because they think he is going to be found guilty.
When the issue of the IGG was ordered, the defense didn’t fight at all even though the judge ordered that they could only have a part of the evidence and that they had to seek permission to use the material. Crickets.
Very odd considering the massive nonsensical spiel they gave over the grand jury.
The man is locked up in jail, and they are concerned about "how the community feels..... so let's just wait till next summer". That's wild.
more time for coverups
I AGREE!! THE COMMUNITY JESUS
I mean…the defence doesn’t even want to commit to next summer…they want father out.
@@carolinapandieswhat?
@@trixonic6934She's a conspiracy theorist.
Will that hearing be available to watch? February 28th??
Defense doesn’t believe in his innocence
I believe the defense strategy is delay, delay,delay….I still wonder if the murderer is the one driving the idea, he has a hx of being a know-it-all
The murderer hasn't even been arrested
Well, even the prosecution admitted that it will take them a very long time to get through all the discovery. Her client is facing the death penalty. She must go through all that evidence.
@@kingjoseph5901you must have never followed a case
@@kingjoseph5901 You're mentally unwell
So true
This case needs to be settled soon to start the healing process.
Maybe they could get through discovery quicker if they didn’t waste time with frivolous motions like trying to change the standard of proof for a grand jury.
Is Anne Taylor such a crappy lawyer that she cannot have a trial less than 3 years out?
No. By all accounts, it seems like she’s actually a good lawyer. Death penalty cases often take even longer to go to trial!
Justice delayed is justice denied, especially for the families. Why did BK fail to plead not guilty? Answer: Because he is guilty and realizes he has no chance at trial. Or maybe he just has grown fond of the vegetarian chow in the Moscow pokey.
It's done for a number of reasons. One is to avoid disturbances in the court (family hearing him say not guilty could provoke outbursts)
@@emfromthechirealistically not pleading guilty is done when the prosecution has a strong case. One would not plead guilty so he is able to make a plea down the road and avoid death penalty
I believe Bryan Kohlberger is innocent! He’s the scapegoat for the corrupt Moscow law enforcement!!
@@emfromthechi Its very rarely done at all.
This trial should have been over with by now.Let’s go!
So true
True but he give up@@user-sf8kw4yj6h
@@user-sf8kw4yj6h He waived his right to speedy trial.
How do you figure that? Compared to other multi victim murder trials, no, theyre right on track.
Judge Judge 😅
Our priest when I was growing up..his ladt name is Massman
At least his names not nudge or budge or smudge
Change of venue is a delay tactic if they approve that the county to the North has 15,000 fewer residents and the county to the South has 10,000 more residents. So how far away do they want to move it
This is the Defence's only strategy, delays and technicalities, they do not want to go to trial, Kohberger has no defence.
Lets go already 🙄
The Defense Attorney also said she had to go back 3 generations of BK’s family history. What does that have to with weather or not he killed them???
She’s already maki g a plan to get the DP off the table due to some familial “condition” or something. She knows he’s guilty and is stalling.
you sound sick, get well soon!
Very good guest and analysis
Jesse Webber definitely went to his bosses after this saying “ I flipping tried ok” hahahaha
This is ridiculous that they cannot be ready by summer. How long ago did this happen?
A bit over a year ago. It’s normal for death penalty cases to take several years before going to trial
If he is innocent why would he want to delay for yrs and be sitting jail?
I’m thinking the prosecution has the evidence to convict BK. The defense (BK,) knows it and they want to delay, delay and delay.
If he was innocent the defense would be confident about the burden of proof on prosecution.
I hope they find the weapon. I bet her buried it. There is a lot of undeveloped land between Moscow and Pullman.
Jules Epstein...you are adorable. So smart. We all look forwrd to your analysis whenever you come on the program. Thanks Jesse!!
no other stabbings in Idaho have happened since kohberger got locked up. Bet there won’t either.
I just think that Ann Taylor would like it to keep going because of her pay. Who wouldn’t and the evidence against him speaks for itself . Thank you
I wonder if the footage defense is reviewing is the LINDA LANE
I do think that’s a possibility
My only question is
What version of the Linda Lane video does she have?
I’ve seen several out there that show different things
In the beginning of the Linda Lane video being released
You see a person walking on the right hand of the screen, upper right in front of a shed orsome kind
But now you don’t see the person walking in front of a shed upper right hand corner of the video with the versions coming out now do not show the figure
I believe Bryan Kohlberger is innocent! He’s the scapegoat!!
@@bbe3034 What facts are you basing that on?
@@JustaGirlinCleveland The "facts" presented as evidence look phony.
I cannot imagine how horrible delaying the trial for a year will be for the 2 surviving roommates. It is unethical of the defense to keep those 3 young ladies waiting longer to clear their names after telling the truth of what they heard and saw.
Ummm, they dont need to "clear their names" ...Theyre not suspects. They've already told LE including the FBI what happened as well as they testified to the Grand Jury.
Unethical to keep them waiting , they let their friends lie in a pool of blood before they called police. And you think it is us unethical, it is disgusting that these two girls would have done that, no excuses!
Those two could not tell the truth if they stood on a stack of bibles and recited the hail mary
How do you know they told the truth about anything
@@Mrch33ky because I highly doubt two 20 year old girls outsmarted the local and state police, multiple investigators, the FBI and the grand jury. lol
If the defense needs 12 week trial means he’s guilty asf
How do you come to that conclusion?!
@@BluebellBbecause his/her mother always called him/her special. 😅
Prosecution claims they want justice for the victims and the families. So what does it matter if it has an effect on the students and the community. I would think everyone is looking for justice the proper way. So who is their real interest here.? U cannot have it both ways. Let both parties have all info out. Period. To get proper justice.
If they change the venue, does that mean the judge goes to that place or it’s a different judge?
Different everything, that’s the point
@@Kthb80No. judge stays the same and travels. But the courthouse and where the jury panel comes from changes.
Like in Daybell they changed venue but not judges.
@@Kthb80 Dont answer if you dont know, simple concept.
@@JustaGirlinCleveland just because the same judge provided over Daybell does not mean that happens in every case. The 2 cases I’m familiar with that had a change of venue also had different judges. Most likely in high profile cases the judge would stay the same.
@@JustaGirlinCleveland I hope you bring that same energy to 85% of the comments under this video…
At 3:11 it looks like Ann Taylor kicks Kohberger under the table to tell him to stop looking over at the Prosecution.
Right after that is…
😂😂 he does turn his head pretty quickly.
I caught that too
I wonder what his family thinks about all of this. Do any of them feel like he did this? What has he told them?
Judge is going to decide to get this show on the road. Bryan is delaying because the current mood is better than the one that is going to prevail.
Stop stalling that's all you do is stall stall cause your running from it... Stop your delaying and give the families justice..
This is NOT a complicated case.
He is shameless he is diagusting and shallow. Trial ASAP
I'm not a fan of L&CN (FYI, it's "Anne" Taylor", not "Ann"), but Attorney Jules Epstein makes the episodes excellent and I love to tune in.
BK never ever said he's Innocent! That's a false statement. He in fact didn't even plead Innocent.
No delay the relatives need justice. They have the evidence.
Get on with it already. We don't want to hear that it's to be set. We're aware of that
Maybe the defense needs more attorneys on the case let’s go !
Feel better Jesse☕
I really feel like the defense is prolonging only to try desensitizing the case. So that he has a better chance of walking. Too bad for them bc we all want justice for these family's!! it could be 2 years from now and I'm going to be as angry about this case as I was the minute I heard of it! they are playing the judge its insulting and ridiculous!!
everyone deserve fair trial that's why we have these laws and justice system place
Jesse, that background looks like an awful crime scene. C'mon. Its been up for a year. Style change is overdue.
How do they ever find a jury that hasn’t been tainted with this trial …seems impossible..especially w/internet now a days ..
Sound a little sick, I Hope you get to feeling better soon!
When? Come on, this is criminal towards the family!!!!!!!!
No one seems to notice Anne calling her client, "Bryan". Whatever happened to, "Mr. Kohberger"? This doesn't seem professional to me in the court. That's just like calling the Judge, "Hey, John? We'd like to set the trial on this date."
The more evidence she looks at the more she is trying to humanize him in the public eye. It casts doubt.
@@soulomine
Calling him, "Bryan" is humanizing him and casting doubt when he has no alibi or any exculpatory evidence himself??? Either she's calling him "Bryan' informally because she doesn't care, or she's calling him that because she speaks with him on the phone having too many personal conversations instead of business conversations and getting too comfortable with him. He should be called Mr. Kohberger because the court is a formal setting.
@@Pllm30 you gonna cry 😢 now?
Maybe he prefers that.
@@juliab8895 Yeah, probably.
This case was beyond tragic bc these we're 4 young College Students who we're in their beds totally caught off guard & trapped in their bedrooms & the brutal assault causing death.People we're happy a person was arrested & charged but Jurors are still going to listen to the evidence in this case. Before the arrest 99.9% of You Tube Creators & their viewers commenting thought it was Kaylee's high-school ex boyfriend with the texts & he was staying a stones throw away. So it taught everyone until an arrest is made & brought to trial then you'll see the evidence & they have the right person or maybe not. Give the Jurors some credit they want to convict the right person! Ontario, 🇨🇦
@blurrylights6344 Im glad someone else agrees with me about the backdrop. Ive been asking them to change it for ages. It makes me feel ill. Looks like blood spatter all over the walls .. gross !
It seem as tho justice is not being served in this case..
Jeez let’s go already
Ann just wants to keep her 200/hr payroll. She is reaching with her arguments for realistic trial dates
$200/hr is not a lot for what she is doing
I don’t think she’s having fun
LOL....she works for the public defenders office no way she is making 200 an hour. If she is making $200 an hour....all the attorney's in the country are going to move to Idaho! In my state, public defenders make $70 an hour.
@@TJ-so9xo They make more for a DP case.
@@JustaGirlinCleveland we dont' have the DP in my state....makes sense they would pay more for that .
How does this trial compare to other death penalty trials in terms of actual trial date being set ?
Normal
They should respect the defense, the prosecutors have this in the bag fs. But this is a death penalty case and needs to be taken very seriously for the victims.
Jules Epstein is a great analyst! would love seeing/hearing him on all the cases! Go Owls, hometown guy, cant go wrong there!
Its only a matter of time before more ppl catch on. Even my mum knows about this case many thousands of miles away, in a diff country, and no internet!
Get on with it
Kohberger has had more consideration than these victims families
He's had no more, no less than any other dp suspect.
@@JustaGirlinCleveland ok know it all and how many cases don’t even have a trial date after 15 months and rip down a house that is a crime scene- move along… I did not ask for your opinion and I am entitled to mine
@@soulomine LOL are you 12?
@@soulomine you react like you need medicated. Jesus fn Christ, if you can’t handle other peoples opinions get off the internet doll!
Not Law & Crime milking the case as much as the defense attorney
Shame on this Judge!!!!!!!
wait....this is old news. they bothered Jesse with this while he is sick, just to repeat old news.
It helps to have expert insights. It’s old news but this discussion gives you more to think about.
Duty for justice Ann
That segue was slick 😮💨
No, your guest is wrong. A trail is for the family of the victims and the community, not the victims because they are dead and no longer live in the community.
Ah, but those victims still deserve justice in their names.
In their names? What? A community lives. A name does not. @@Mojogoblue
The trial is for the person being tried, that’s whose life it effects
Master Jules ♥️
I think Bryan is working overtime to test process and settled law. He may also be waiting for an alibi witness.
none
I don't know if you see it, but the most high-profile cases were set to September 2024: Kohberger's case and Dona Adelson's case. Public attention will be zeroed on elections at this time, and strange things could happen in court. What is surprisingly common in both cases is that defendants are Jews.
Both are victims of trumped up charges, if you bothered to go through the evidence presented.
This is not true,@@Anti-Fake-ul9oe. This is what they pay for.
Never. This is result of degenerated approach to other human beings.
Defense theatrics
Old news?
My MH clients drive around at night. They dont ghost their social media and phone however!
Goodness gracious that did not fit the interviewers narrative at all lol! Glad tho guy gereatrically kept it real!
Judge Judge has allowed this to a degree. He does need to set deadlines. We already lost the crime scene integrity.
100%
Jesse definitely sounds sick ;(
I know there’s a lot that go into cases. I’ve worked in litigation E Discovery for 15 years but it’s also the burden of proof for prosecution. I just don’t understand what the defense needs on their end that would take that long even the amount of information the terabyte just seems like it’s probably a lot of nothing, they’re just using a large volume number of meta-data to help put off getting an earlier trial. Even the judge has said if there’s a way to get more hands on the deck to help out with and being that I work in Discovery there is third parties that deal with that type of metadata all the time where we sort out what is needed and what is not for trial just seems like more of an excuse to buy time.
the judge has refused to grant them access to all the evidence
@@beccabrack5187 Right......many times the state petitioned documents from prosecution and yet to receive all of those
@@beccabrack5187 Wrong...judge is keeping protected information private.
@@beccabrack5187 They rece3ived what theyre entitled to have.
There are genuine logistics issues. There really isn’t much lodging around there to being with. It’s a pretty area. They will need to have a ton of people travel in jusf for the trial- never mind the media etc.
I watch a lot of trials but like Lori Day bell's trial dragged on & on. I personally got sick of hearing about it. It was bad enough to see what they did there was no way she'd walk with all the evidence. I personally won't watch this trial until the very end. What about the victims & their families? Ontario, 🇨🇦
@JesseWeber I am a Idahoan and I have lived in Moscow. It is a small town not Philadelphia. Everyone knows what is going on. Also the defense attorneys got a huge raise while they represent the guy. Im worried they are milking that big raise paid for by us. Closest move would be south to Lewiston, can't go north to Coeur d'Alene since many of the victims are from there. Not a lot of choices close by. Also the High School is right by the courthouse and all the media will disrupt learning. We do care about our kids. Last on the hotels. I worked at one (long ago) There is not a lot of lodging with media and experts you may not find a room at all for months. Where will everyone stay? An hour away? Logistically if you knew Moscow you would further understand why. It would be a hard situation for the town when school is in.
Boise
Where all of the buzzards stay is to no concern of the court! You yourself being a Moscow resident should know better than anyone that to get to anything in that country requires driving! I drove a Minimum of an hour each way for 30 years while I was working construction in northern Minnesota so it’s not that big of a deal for people to get to the courthouse every day! It’s time to go to trial!
@@soulomine I think Boise would be best too. But it's a trek from Moscow.
@@simpsonrdlarry4385 I have to disagree. For one I have moved away from Moscow at this point, but one of my favorite places ever. I walked 90% of my time in Moscow. Maybe Minnesota isn't quite the same as Moscow. It's small!!!! Even without the buzzards there isn't enough hotel rooms for witnesses, experts, and the families. I wish it was summer of 2024, but if it stays in Moscow it will have to be summer. The town does not have the ability to handle the influx when UofI is in. Maybe another good reason for change in venue. Just the ability of the town to hold everyone.
@@InchHighPrivateEye well if that’s what it takes then for Christ sake have it in Boise! Whatever it’s time for trial! And yes northern Minnesota is very rural and small towns. The courtroom in Moscow looks like it on holds maybe 30-40 people Maximum so I don’t think they’re going to be letting a bunch of people in there anyway. They’re going to put a limit on how many times a person gets a seat in there to watch the proceedings anyway. The press is used to driving to go back and forth to court the only people that they need to worry about is the families of the victims and of the killer which I doubt anyone is going to support him anyway!
Sorry Prof. the people are only going to get more hyper focused, not less. Look how long we waited for justice on Daybell and Adelsons. No we will not lose focus!
How much more time do they need and FOR WHAT . 🥴
They have to be painstakingly careful to make sure he never sees the light of day again because he's a serial killer and they have evidence of his other murders in other states....maybe
@@TJ-so9xostop spreading BS, maybe. You don’t know jack 🤫
@@bjorneisenseite9482 I know more than you its obvious
I know this is going to sound weird. But I had this dream of koberger putting his bloody outfit in a trash bag before getting into his car. It was an oddly vivid dream. And in my dream, he disposed of the bag of bloody clothes by hiding them in some bushes somewhere, not by throwing it in the trash.
First time I've ever dreampt about a murder case.
I live in Pullman after living in Moscow for years. My guess: the universities (U of I) are trying to push this out. They get far fewer enrollments due to the publicity in the area. No longer the “safe” town it used to be.
As much as the defense attorney wants to delay it makes me believe they used to work for the V.A.
19:02 Do it in Moscow, Russia instead of Moscow, Idaho! All this stalling...
Why do you keep saying stabbed to death ... He is innocnet until proven guilty take responsibility for what you are saying it is alledged until proven otherwise
He's guilty get it going let the families have peace this is like a circus defend side obviously thinks he's guilty they are dragging there feet evidence against him is strong!!!!
Old news - A tentative date is sometime in summer 2025. Both the prosecution and defense agree that any time before that is unlikely.
The Judge could very well say no, we're moving forward.