Yes ! And people don’t know how many people in the world join Gedmatch it doesn’t matter if people don’t do any ancestry DNA website because they are afraid but they don’t know they a lot of people already upload their data and by the way, they probably sharing your DNA too because they are related to you . This and another website are the ones the are helping the law-enforcement enforcement and investigators in genetic genealogy with the crimes and cold cases. Not the other websites. You need to opt in if you are willing to help.
The US State Department is advising EVERY AMERICAN AGAINST DNA TESTS. Our enemies are making DNA BIOWEAPONS targeting entire genes, races & markers. Works just like MRNA. CHINA OWNS 23 & ME AND HAS BEEN TAKING US CITIZENS DNA SAMPLES AND USING THEM IN LABS. Do your homework people. Once they have your DNA they have EVERY RELATIVE & FUTURE CHILDS DNA. Someone just hacked 23& me's system and stole EVERY ASHKENAZI JEWS DNA SAMPLE and they think it has to do with Iran & Hamas. Think about that. SCARY.
The first anniversary of a loved ones death is so difficult especially in cases of a sudden death. It’s a reminder that life goes on regardless of how much it feels like time has stopped in your life. My heart goes out to the families, loved ones and friends.❤
When I was grieving the time about 8-12 months after was the worst, at that point you no longer have the shock/daze to numb you, you are really missing your loved one by that point and start to forget what they sounded/smelled like, you no longer have all your friends and family coming over every day to support you, the reality really sets in. It took me around 3 years to stop grieving and to start to feel somewhat normal again and I actually feel guilty sometimes when I realize I haven't thought about them for a couple of hours.
The first of everything is rough especially when its a family member. Your birthday, their birthday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, all of it. Gets easier though
Bryan, Brent Kopacka and a couple of individuals were aware of police involvement in drugs dealing through some of these students. All Bryan’s cell phone pings or stalking Kaylee to me are true BUT NOT FOR KILLING THEM, he was trying to find out about police corruption in Moscow Idaho but the STATE THAT NOW KNOWS HE HAD BEEN AWARE of many things through Brent Kopacka, wants to kill him too! They killed Kopacka but Bryan is another witness for their corruption, they want to ditch him too. The knife sheath belongs to poor Brent! They were friends and were aware of police involvement in drugs, since Bryan had requested for a security job as the officer, he thought that was a good start to show his capability to be a good security person so he took all 1122 interactions under his observation but he didn’t know in this case he has put himself against the state and not in public security direction. Now the state want to remove all the individuals learnt about their corruption before it comes to public being aware of everything! Know Bryan has found out NOT ALWAYS police do what they should do but also sometimes they do what they SHOULDN’T do and camouflage themselves by their power.
@@zzz7zzz9not to mention she was face to face with the assumed killer, who after stabbing 4 people to death certainly would’ve been covered in blood. Not possibly or probably, certainly.
How could one person manage to stab 4 people and snuck out without making noise to wake up? None of them didn't scream while they were being stabbed? Does not make sense.
They did. Even a neighbor heard it but this being a party house, the neighbors were used to hearing noise. In fact, just the day before police showed up there giving them a warning regarding the noise. So neighbors likely just thought , "oh well, typical." Sad. And the roommate heard crying and a scream and that's why she came out of her room like 2 or 3 times. That's pretty wacky IMO. I can't believe the roommate didn't at least text one of them to ask what was going on if she was scared. That's what I'm curious to hear about. I feel sorry for her though because defense is probably going to give her a hard time. I don't think she had anything to do with it but think she could've done better. She's really lucky to be alive I suppose.
Yes. And they didn't even call the police until hours later? I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing was artificially created for publicity purposes only. All deaths are only 'alleged' with no evidence of their DNA. They never took any blood samples of these 4 individuals to confirm their identity. So chances are they may still all be alive. Probably transported elsewhere. Just like Princess Diana's death was most likely 'staged' by her cloned self? While the real Diana was transported elsewhere..
The other roommate wake up, also the neighbors heard it. But this POS was tired so couldn't not finish with the other girl. Call the devil is not the same to see he coming.
yes it makes perfect sense.they were drunk.he went for their throat.wore protective clothing.he did it alone.with the k-bar knife he bought from amazon
I’m sure the trial will bring out more information on his cell activity. Did he have a pattern of turning off his phone in the middle of the night while going on joy rides? Sure hope this trial is televised, would like to watch it, here in Washington.
Sometimes my phone dies. I put it on a charger for a couple of hours and turn it back on when it's charged up. What would that prove? Evidence of what?
@@chrisstevens-xq2vbif it is not illegal to turn your phone off at convenience or for your phone to die then it isnt evidence it is called speculation.
❤ justice for idaho 4 ive been following this from the beginning can't believe it's nearly a year sending hope and strength to the families of the 4 from Manchester United Kingdom ❤
For a man so educated psychology in criminal justice. It just blows my mind that he would leave behind so much evidence. It blows my mind that he’d even take his phone with him.
what evidence? there's no bombshell piece that makes this a lock. the strongest piece is the dna, which is touch-dna, the weakest type, and completely circumstantial, as it's on an item that could have been brought there by someone else.
I see a lot of people commenting this and I still don't understand. How is the DNA (even if it is the 'weakest' type) not a complete lock? Even if someone somehow planted it with BK's DNA only (impossible), we know his car was there the exact time of the murders. DNA was planted and he just so happened to be there randomly himself? @@zzz7zzz9
He didn't "leave" it... it was lost / dropped /removed during the crime. And DNA doesn't just magically appear on a KNIFE SHEATH snap AT THE CRIME SCENE.
Where does everyone keep getting that there was screaming? Dylan never says that in the PCA, playing w a dog and whimpering is very different than screaming. The neighbors called the cops on them for music, I’m sure if there was blood curdling screaming SOMEONE would have called the cops.
You forgot to mention that Kohberger's cell phone pinged on the 13th about 9:00 in the morning around 1122 King Road. Was he coming back to see if the police were there or was he hoping to retrieve the knife sheath? The defense needs to explain that in my opinion...
What? How is the defense going to explain why a suspect returned to the area of the crime when the suspect themself won’t give that information? How exactly do u expect them to know that? And even if it was for a grocery run, does that change that his car was seen coming and going from the house at the time of the crime? Please help me understand ur logic lol
It’ll obviously be brought up, but it’s not a crime to drive down a street. Him being in the area doesn’t mean he was in the house or committed the crime. There were probably dozens of vehicles that drove by the residence that morning. It’s a residential street. Circumstantial evidence.
@@jimlahey3919You’re right. It’s one piece of circumstantial evidence and easy to dismiss when you focus on only that piece but this is like a puzzle. One piece doesn’t reveal the whole picture but when you put all the pieces together, it does and there’s a mountain of circumstantial evidence all of which point to BK as the culprit. The defense is gonna have a big problem trying to explain away all these pieces of evidence in a way that a jury will believe it. His alibi is already very weak and cannot be verified. Many killers have been convicted strictly on circumstantial evidence with no murder weapon or body. I think the prosecution has a strong case if they present it right and they will. That veteran prosecutor who’s about to retire knows what he’s doing. It’s not a slam dunk but it’s favoring the prosecution.
@dr3v1l1993they didn’t testify for the grand jury and they seemed to agree there was probable cause to charge him. Yes it’s not the same as a conviction, but u have to give credence that the prosecution has more of a case than any of us know.
Evidence still doesn't make any sense to me. Why the wait to call 911. Why say it was an unconscious person. Why only one footprint not 2. Where is the murder weapon. Why cant we know who called 911 or hear the 911 call. And many more things that do not make any sense to me at all. It doesn't add up
There's a gag order in place. Plus, none of us are privy to the full array of evidence on either side. Why, it's almost as if no one listened to the video... or reads any of the myriad articles about the case.
@@mortalclown3812 We do know there's no connection to the victims and there's no DNA from the victims anywhere in his belongings. We also know the DNA is partial trace DNA>
the 911 call was from a neighbour walking by, who saw dylan come running from the house screaming, then pass out on the driveway. that person phoned 911 and reported an unconscious person(dylan). it was not a call regarding the murders.
I think he got into the whole criminology thing too much. Having assignments like “think like a killer” triggered something that was always inside of him. He had to know what it felt like, he became obsessed. That’s my theory, at least.
@@fofofofo3076 When they say the phone pinged in the area that really means a 1 -1.5 mile radius and they think it's damming evidence to gi through your thrash with gloves on ! They are also letting their emotions get to them over the roommate !
What about the roomates messaging their sorority/frat friends before even calling the police? How did everyone know about the murders before they called the police?
Not to mention said friends are the ones who called police. Nobody in that house ever dialed 911 at any time. Even the next day. AGAIN, no house member called 911. There is no police call from anyone that resides there. Friends called police. Very very unusual.
Entire campus was talking about something bad happening around 8 AM at breakfast that morning on campus. People knew something happened but maybe not exactly what. This is bigger than just blaming it on a patsy that was lined up by an outside agency. 1 guy didn't do 4 murders in 10 minutes, that's for sure impossible without specialized training and even then, 2 had defensive wounds and fought. Again, you will not convince a rational jury that 1 person did this in 10 minutes (prosecution timeline).
@@bokjuuu 2 defensive and fighting, 1 adult male bigger than BK in size and strength. Add the size of the house. Down to 8 minutes with travel time from car to house.
“D” seeing bushy eyebrows in the dark is neither here or there. However what ensued for eight hours before calling 911 is beyond me. I hope the prosecution bring in more robust evidence. Certainly a strong circumstantial case.
They called their close friends first to come and contaminate the crime scene. I want the right people arrested and charged as much as anyone, but not with how faulty this investigation has been. Friends from the area talk about how crooked the police are in those towns. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a frat/drug house and the dealers were taken out by more serious traffickers like the cartel.
@@coryc9040it really is in this case, because victim DNA should have transferred to BK. But it was neither found or reported after bludgeoning 4 people. Also remember, if BK acted alone, he was too efficient in killing 4 people in under 10minutes. It doesn’t make sense and the defense will easily explain everything.
And keep in mind D never called 911 at all. She invited friends over and friends called 911, A male caller called 911. Nobody at the house called 911 nor did anyone who resides there. The call came from randoms that do not live there. Scary stuff.
We don't know. However, he was scared when he first appeared to court, and now he looks very confident, too confident even for being judged for such horrible murders.
i’ve been keeping up with this case ever since it happened. this case has consumed me, and not in a good way. i wish they didn’t delay the case, although i understand why they did, because the defense needs time to build their arguments & points to try & exonerate Bryan. all four beautiful students deserve justice! my friend knew Xana because she goes to the University of Idaho, and lived in Moscow. she moved home after what happened because she couldn’t feel safe no matter what she did.
It’s just a heartbreaking situation! These kids were all American kids just starting off their own lives. It reminds us that our children are never truly safe! It reminds us that there are sick people living in this world that do unimaginable things. This case has broke my heart and I have followed it also. It must be so hard for you because you know somebody that physically one of the victims. It more close to home my heart goes out to their families.
Not one time has he ever yelled out "I didn't do it " . If you were innocent and you were put under arrest for something you did not do, most people would be filled with anger and would let it show . This is not happening with Bryan Kohberger .
Because the ef bee eye did it. They didn't document their results and then they got rid of it. The State doesn't have anything to give. This judge needs to slam his gavel down and make them provide the evidence for the defendant's arrest.
This is the first I’ve heard all the details summarized. This is going to be a very interesting case. I hope if he is guilty that true justice will be served. 1year of pain and suffering for the victims families, so heartbreaking 💔
@@JakeKoenigWell, tbf, that's usually how it goes. I mean, you don't hear the prosecution summarizing details about a "hypothetical" suspects' case 🤷🏽♂️
Let’s say he’s been in the house a million times. Why is a knife sheath, with his DNA on it, found under a victim’s body? Who cares if his DNA is elsewhere?
You don't understand how DNA works or how his team will argue that. 1. You don't know how many other DNA samples they collected of other unknown people in the same place. 2. This is likely "touch DNA" or "trace DNA", which is notoriously vulnerable to accidental transfer by investigators. 3. He could have handled the sheath innocently prior to the knife inside it being used to commit a crime by someone else. These are just a few of the many possibilities his team will likely be considering. Watch the trial, because I guarantee you your beliefs and opinions are simple right now only because you only have one part of this story laid out for you. When the science really gets going it's all going to become far more complex, probably to the point where you'd also be wondering whether he really did it.
@@ct5625I think that’s a bunch of hoopla until we know for sure where the DNA was found. If it was literally UNDER the snap in an area that would have skin cells from that person regularly handling it and an area that cannot be cleaned without removing the actual snap, then to me ur case holds no water and solidifies it was his.
You know, it’d be nice to see at least one clip of this dude saying, “What in the actual… I seriously never go near that phkn place. I’m trying not to fail my phkn anatomy class.”
it’s pretty creepy tho. i used to live up on Borah overlooking the botanical gardens, right up the hill from 1122 King. Moscow was always such a calm picturesque place. i think this event was much more than just one college kid murdering other kids. It’s too much. There’s way too much. Blood for one thing. Those kids were not stabbed. It was way worse than any slasher film. Something else is going on.
It's crazy, someone with an associates degree in psychology and a doctoral candidate in criminal justice can't even commit a clean crime. Hopefully justice is adequate in this case
He would've been better off doing a binge watch of every Dateline and 48 Hours episode. Perhaps then he would've known the quirky little things that look sus af e.g. leaving a phone off or at home on the one night that a person is a suspect in a murder.
Yeah but even if he was there before what are the odds of his dna being on the sheath left under one of the deceased? The car being in the area 12 times in 5 months prior to murders and the night of the murders. His phone being turned off during the murders. I believe in coincidences but after so many coincidences something ain't right. However, we will see if the states case is as strong as the media seems to think it will be.
It's all circumstantial evidence..The DNA on the sheath is evidence...The prosecution does not tell all the evidence they have so we have to wait and see..
@@DD-dq1ed yea, when the circumstantial evidence makes it one in a million chance of it all just being a coincidence that tells a lot. So he's just randomly driving around the house at the night of the murder, turns his phone off, has bushy eyebrows, intersted in murders, weirdo vibe, his DNA in the house..
I find it hard to believe that the wittiness did not hear either of the murders. Maybe she was on drugs/ had sheaf phones in but it doesn’t make sense! If I heard one of my friends crying I would of went over and checked up on them or texted them
@@alphaomega1351 You don’t believe in prayer? That’s fine. Move on and keep your opinion to yourself. No need to be rude by disrespecting someone’s beliefs.
I really love this podcast but the transition sounds are really harsh and uninviting. I don’t mean to be nit picky just sensitive to those sounds. And also want to reiterate how I love this and it provides so much for us listeners.
IMO .. why wouldn’t someone who’s a witness to their best friends crime want to testify and bring their killer to justice.. if she doesn’t testify I think that adds to the fishiness to her whole story.
@@45square You’re right, he shouldn’t take the stand but his actions will still need explaining. The prosecution will ask for answers and so will the jury
She’s not on trial!!!! She’s a barely-legal girl in the same house her friends were massacred! Stop focusing on innocent people. Let’s go with the evidence only. 😅
She definately needs to testify! She needs to also explain why she did not call police until hours later.... such as being fearful or because perhaps she was on drugs and was impaired.... which could be a problem. Unfortunatley, with out ALL of the evidence being releases, BK has already been convicted in many of the media outlets courts of opinions. I personally do not know if he did or did not do it, but want to hear ALL the evidence and ALL witnesses before sentencing someone to death. After all, if he is innocent and put to death.... and then find out someone else did this.... can't come back from that. This entire case is sad all around, but everyone should want to COMPLETE truth instead of a witch hunt. Think you should bring Sarah on more as she seems to have the correct opinion of getting to the truth of the matter instead of creating a situation where BK can't get a fair trial which could be problematic later.
She's not on trial. I don't see why she should have to answer any questions. It's ironic that you complain a witch hunt when you're the one hunting. Get a grip on yourself.
Brian entin does a great job on all his reporting over the last two years he's become my favorite reporter and honestly I only trust his reporting because he's fair to both sides no matter what unfortunately today's reports a good % arent. Prayers to the victims family and friends my heart goes out to them this is such a sad story that was so uncalled for. I pray the family gets justice and closure when this is all done, and people respect thier privacy. God bless
I am sorry but why would kohberger who is almost 30 be partying with 20 year olds ? He wouldn't ... also he didn't know them , didn't know anyone in their circle of acquaintances.. he didn't go to that university and didn't live in moscow .. just ridiculous
Maybe he learned that from his study about how anonymous people chose their victims and got away with their crimes? Make it seem as random as possible, be quick and meticulous, plan ahead to make it seem routine. Who knows, but for someone who studies murder like it’s their job I don’t think it would be that hard. That questionnaire was still up even after the murders so I am sure he definitely got some good tips and tricks from it.
the girl who came out of her room and allegedly made eye contact with him and didnt get killed by the guy who apparently just killed 4 people and now has a whitness that he just leaves without sorting out? think about it for a second, something smells really fishy
My fear of the media releasing supposed evidence against an " alleged " killer, may cause a monumental failure bias wise. How feasible would it be to actually find a non corrupted juror?
People who are interested in true crime follow this stuff. 99% of the people in my life are completely uninterested in all of this. They will listen if I bring it up but only a couple of friends actually follow the trials and cases. A lot of people avoid news like this.
Bro OJ had a media circus like this , he wasn’t convicted . Just maybe they have more than a knife sheath DNA , just seems impossible to kill 4 people in a multi-storey house in 10 mins without leaving a trail a mile wide . Let alone all the electronic evidence we don’t know off .
It’s telling how media are ignoring the bombshells about there being no connection to the victims, no evidence in his car/apartment/house, 3 unidentified male DNA (2 in the house, 1 on a glove outside), IGG issues, roommates’ behavior
So many murders have similar circumstances. Look at Delphi, the arrest was made bc of a bullet when the girls weren’t even shot and a split second video of a man 30 feet away. No DNA evidence, no link to the victims. The suspect was still arrested. Still indicted. Just bc a murder doesn’t make sense doesn’t mean the person isn’t guilty and circumstantial evidence supports that regardless of claiming to be framed as a cover up for corruption. The media isn’t here to act as counsel and majority of the public has seen enough crimes to know a lot of what u said doesn’t matter.
What do you mean, IGG ussues? And what are you talking about with "roommates behavior"? There absolutely is a connection to the victims, he stalked them FFS.
Agreed. There is a huge lack of evidence in the case and also the prosecution still cannot provide discovery to the defense. They’ve had to ask TEN times! They also refuse to mention the schools importance of protecting the Greek system (frats and sorority) and the 180 million dollar deal that could be jeopardized if the university reputation is tainted. Along many OTHER possible connections to other people including the person that was found to been taking steroids regularly and got into a the big fight with Ethan that night at a party which was so bad they had to leave. Other DNA was found as well not just BK.
I have some request to the Law&Crime Team. The moments when you show the pices of photos from courtroom have very poor sound, could you make louder in your next video. These fragments are very hard to hear and understand specially if someone is not native English speakers, as I am. Thank you in advance.
Hello from Ireland, I'm following this case since the beginning it's so sad & heartbreaking 💔 I feel so sorry for their families. I just can't understand why DM did not call the police and was he in that much 9f a trance he didn't see her, why leave a witness? Does anyone know when the trail is set to start? 😢
@@suzanne6394I’m in W Wales 🏴 this crime’s so heinous. BK does suffer from vision condition that appear as snow in front of eyes, not sure if that explains ignoring the witness. Another theory floating around is the killer didn’t plan to murder Ethan & Xana so was trying to get out asap through planned escape route. However until hearing all evidence still sitting on fence, want justice for these families 💔
@@anni610 Hi thanks for your reply, I didn't realize he suffered with vision issue's, that explains alot for me now. I know poor xana n Dylan to think they should not have being there OMG it's just as sad n heartbreaking as the rest of the murders. I feel awful saying I can't wait for the trail as 4 families are grieving & yet most of the world is fixated on this, But it's mainly curiousity & making sure the families get justice bless them all🙏
They don't. The Grand Jury requested to see more evidence and the prosecutor instead had the judge admonish the jury and remind them the instruction was probable cause and not reasonable doubt to indict someone. 6 members of the Grand Jury asked to see more evidence in order to indict him, and were told there is no more evidence. The judge had to admonish them to get them to indict BK in the first place. This case is borderline violation of BK's constitutional rights to due process.
Is no one going to talk about the fact that no one heard the dog barking? If someone came into my home my dogs would lose their minds and bark continuously. Did he enter the home when no one was home? It seems like the dog was familiar with him to not bark.
I am from India, i have been following this case since the first day, Could anybody explain, why there was a gag order by the court not to publish the details of the case to the public, i have seen gag orders where the celebrities / political leaders involved cases, to protect their personal life, why it was applied to this case??
I think in this case it was done to protect Kohberger‘s right to a fair trial. If too many details are known to the public it might taint the jury pool and just delay the whole process or the case could even get thrown out…
This will become more common until there are laws introduced to control the hysteria that is SM. The judge is trying to ensure a fair trial but I'm not sure that's possible because so many people are influenced already by content like this.
being a common man, it shows the better side of the judiciary system where a non celebrity were able to press a gag order, on the other side the culprit should get the maximum punishment, lets hope justice will prevail to the affected people..
There is a gag order because they don't want the jury tainted. The public cannot be trusted and tell too many lies and twist the truth. Some of the information is so graphic it might make the potential jury pool convict him before they step foot in court. They don't want that to happen, so they keep the info sealed. These are quadruple homicides not celebrities divorce, custody or financial issues. These people were stabbed, and the perp might get death. It's best to keep the info. sealed until trial.
My comment was missing. They have to keep a gag order to protect the case. If the information is out in the public, the jurors will make up their minds before they get to court, and that's a bad thing for him.
Am I the only true crime fan who looks at this case and is like....wtf nothing makes sense. It is not easy to NOT project intentions/behavioral expectations....however, if I were innocent and were not a sociopath or suffering from some other kind of personality disorder, I would be in hysterics about this and my claims to innocence. I would be exasperated. And, that in mind, there is also no reason for his DNA and other piecemeal evidence to be something that even exists/is a thing. His approach, while technically legally advisable in some ways, is still damning in other ways. Let's not glaze over the bizarre reaction of the roommate who "saw" the stranger and just did not do anything for HOURS. I get being frozen in time sorta, but not in the scope of hours. Freeze, but then call the effing police asap! None of this makes sense...
Yeah there are a lot of things that make no sense, I'm with you. The roommate not calling is huge, and it gets explained away as shock, when no one has ever acted that way. And then just the reporting on it the next day. They were reporting that 4 kids died, and not that they were stabbed. People thought they had OD'ed. It's obvious they were stabbed, but that was always treated weirdly. A LOT of this case is extremely wonky, not just the murders themselves or Kolberger.
You sound like your team kohberger. Good luck with that. Pretty shortly, we'll see the evidence. But I think it's strange how people are flocking to defend Bryan. I took his Reddit survey, before it was taken down. His Facebook and socials were live for weeks.
@@marylou4324 im not sure what gave you the impression that I am team seeming sociopath. I think we are just talking about the evidence that has been presented so far to both the defense and the public, and that it really doesnt explain much. I honestly think he probably is culpable...however, there are some difficult to explain pieces of the narrative that are lingering in terms of possible prosecution evidence. Questions to be answered is all. And I honestly hope justice is served in a way that doesnt allow a killer to remain on the loose! His affect is unnerving.
I think assuming a college student in a party house would reason like a fully mature adult brain is ludicrous. Just saying. Why is the roommate the on trial?
The thing I feel is strange is why only those four people were killed, and not everyone in the house. There has to be some connection between him and the four victims
I think it is because Maddie was the target he researched enough to know Kaylee had moved out and so when he went in to Maddie room and Kaylee was there he kinda freaked killed them both , went to get out and ran in to Ethan who was half asleep and had been drinking , he killed him and than had to kill Zana to get out and was so full of anxiety and fear of getting out that he didn't even notice the other roommate.
@@artfrommymind1096 being full of anxiety and fear would lead one to be hurried and careless. he was very calm and precise. even dylan claims the person simply walked by her and out the door.
It's not just his ping activity leading up to the murders that is suspicious. The PCA states that after the 14th, his phone never pinged a Moscow tower again in the 6 weeks leading up to his arrest.
@@dougcorcoran5455how do u know he wasn’t “in town” the PCA says it pings on the tower but they don’t believe he was near the house. Most likely bc his car is not seen on cameras in the neighborhood. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t “in town”
@@marakahl so his phone pinged the tower but he wasn't near the crime scene. You would be a good defense witness! Your right, phone pings aren't reliable!
@@marakahl there is no way he could have been in town 11 1423 because he was in jail… I’m not saying I don’t think he did this. I was just responding to this one comment.
They are reluctant to really give the public any info on genetic tracing like that and always have been. They don’t want to deter the public from doing it bc it really is a great resource for solving crimes. They have used it in cold cases for years. The difference in this case is that it’s the first time they have used it in real time. So it’s never really been litigated and the judges ruling will mostly likely be used as reference in cases going forward. One of the first things that drew me to this case was exactly how the judge would rule in what should be allowed as discovery bc in a way, it really is like an informant that just gives a name.
@@Leaschmid7The FBI, ISP and MPD found no evidence whatsoever of the two roomates being involved in the crimes. Please stop spreading misinformation. BK is on trial for a reason. All the facts will come out during the trial.
@justme-cr2zc Folks whining before opening statements need to look at the same kinds of comments before Murdaugh trial and the Markel murder trials, too. Juries tend to get it right. Fgs, the evidence hasn't even been released.
I think you should also do a video on the defence case. Like the weaknesses in the prosecution case to be unbiased. I know persecution has a lot of evidence but I also think some of their evidence is also questionable. Don’t know what you guys think. So maybe invite like a defence lawyer to see where they could poke holes on the prosecution case
@@Pllm30 Because 6 members of the Grand Jury requested more evidence before indictment. The judge had to admonish the jurors who asked for more evidence. 6 people had doubts about this case. If the prosecution had more evidence it would have been presented to a Grand Jury, especially where 6 of them felt the evidence was lacking. The judge had to remind them it's not about reasonable doubt, it's probable cause aka probable suspicion that he could have done it. 6 jurors had doubts he did this, but later agreed it was "possible" only after the judge reread the instruction.
These people are biased . when they say the phone pinged around the area that means in a 1 - 1.5 mile radius and they think going through the trash with gloves on is damning evidence !
@@antonycuff4512 Was disappointed to learn some of the location data is based on a 25 mile coverage area when he crosses back into the state line. The only way they are putting him near the house is the blurry videos of a car that hasn't been proven to be his. They say it's his car, yet they can't prove it with any evidence. The location data falls apart at that point for me.
@@mikejohnson9960 Yet the grand jury STILL decided to indict him on the evidence presented. The GD doesnt get to decide on what evidence they see, they are instructed to make a decision based on what they have seen....and they did! LOL
"Hi i'm innocent. I'm willing to waive a speedy trial to stay in jail for an indeterminate amount of years incarcerated although i'm in the middle of studying for my phD." "oh btw my alibi is I was driving aimlessly with noone to verify or confirm where i was during the times of the murders".... bro.. stop wasting tax payer money
Brian Entin is a liar. The PCA even specifically states that they have NO IDEA whether the phone was on or off or simply out of range. Get a grip. Why lie?
Phone pings show general location within several miles (he lived 9 miles away), they don’t show precise location. He could have been anywhere in Moscow and even outside of Moscow and ping a tower in Moscow
False. Moscow has 3 towers and Pullman has their own 3. The triangulation in these very small towns actually makes it quite easy to narrow down where in each town ur phone is located.
He got so close to that house that his phone connected to their wifi on several seperate occasions late at night, when he was presumed to be staking out the house, maybe failed attempts to gain entry
@@marakahl there is only one actual cell phone tower in Moscow. The other two are mini towers placed on a water tower and a building. One of them doesn’t even reach King Road. So there’s no way to do triangulation
They will hold up a lot more than that. The jury will be reminded of the brutality of the crime itself, not just the beautiful lives lost. This is going to be a really tough case for a jury to sit through. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
This is the first I have heard of this… 😢 my first thought is, when someone stabbed these kids so much surely the shoes will have blood on and leave prints on flooring, there has to be loads of clues
Shoe liners would leave a size print , but blood wouldn’t show up unless it had a hole with a leak . But I’m more curious if they found blood Down his shower , sink and washing machine pipes & what DNA came back ..
Truly think about what the surviving roommates really thought, if any of you were in the same situation you would be telling yourself nothing was going on like MURDER? No, no one would think a murder was actually going on. Goodness, these poor kids had no clue. People need to leave the survivors alone.
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gotta be able to buy probable cause for anything XD @@inkdreams4
The first anniversary of a loved ones death is so difficult especially in cases of a sudden death. It’s a reminder that life goes on regardless of how much it feels like time has stopped in your life. My heart goes out to the families, loved ones and friends.❤
Very true. Well said
😮
When I was grieving the time about 8-12 months after was the worst, at that point you no longer have the shock/daze to numb you, you are really missing your loved one by that point and start to forget what they sounded/smelled like, you no longer have all your friends and family coming over every day to support you, the reality really sets in. It took me around 3 years to stop grieving and to start to feel somewhat normal again and I actually feel guilty sometimes when I realize I haven't thought about them for a couple of hours.
Well said buddy ❤❤
The first of everything is rough especially when its a family member. Your birthday, their birthday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, all of it. Gets easier though
Imagine....there is lots of information the public still doesn't know!!
Of course!
Are they trying to protect this little boy with curly hair
Exactly 🙌🏻
and the defense team!
Bryan, Brent Kopacka and a couple of individuals were aware of police involvement in drugs dealing through some of these students. All Bryan’s cell phone pings or stalking Kaylee to me are true BUT NOT FOR KILLING THEM, he was trying to find out about police corruption in Moscow Idaho but the STATE THAT NOW KNOWS HE HAD BEEN AWARE of many things through Brent Kopacka, wants to kill him too! They killed Kopacka but Bryan is another witness for their corruption, they want to ditch him too.
The knife sheath belongs to poor Brent! They were friends and were aware of police involvement in drugs, since Bryan had requested for a security job as the officer, he thought that was a good start to show his capability to be a good security person so he took all 1122 interactions under his observation but he didn’t know in this case he has put himself against the state and not in public security direction. Now the state want to remove all the individuals learnt about their corruption before it comes to public being aware of everything!
Know Bryan has found out NOT ALWAYS police do what they should do but also sometimes they do what they SHOULDN’T do and camouflage themselves by their power.
I'd say the roommate thought he was dropping off drugs and she herself had drugs in her system, which is why no hurry to call the police.
Drugs are def going to come into play here. The kids in this case are going to look bad. My opinion.
@@lindap.p.1337college kids are going to look bad for doing drugs? lol 😂
nope. then why does she say she was frozen with fear?
@@zzz7zzz9not to mention she was face to face with the assumed killer, who after stabbing 4 people to death certainly would’ve been covered in blood. Not possibly or probably, certainly.
@lindap.p.1337 they don't seem like drug users at all. Alcohol and weed maybe. Nothing interesting, nothing special.
How could one person manage to stab 4 people and snuck out without making noise to wake up? None of them didn't scream while they were being stabbed? Does not make sense.
They did. Even a neighbor heard it but this being a party house, the neighbors were used to hearing noise. In fact, just the day before police showed up there giving them a warning regarding the noise. So neighbors likely just thought , "oh well, typical." Sad. And the roommate heard crying and a scream and that's why she came out of her room like 2 or 3 times. That's pretty wacky IMO. I can't believe the roommate didn't at least text one of them to ask what was going on if she was scared. That's what I'm curious to hear about. I feel sorry for her though because defense is probably going to give her a hard time. I don't think she had anything to do with it but think she could've done better. She's really lucky to be alive I suppose.
Yes. And they didn't even call the police until hours later?
I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing was artificially created for publicity purposes only.
All deaths are only 'alleged' with no evidence of their DNA.
They never took any blood samples of these 4 individuals to confirm their identity.
So chances are they may still all be alive. Probably transported elsewhere. Just like Princess Diana's death was most likely 'staged' by her cloned self?
While the real Diana was transported elsewhere..
The other roommate wake up, also the neighbors heard it. But this POS was tired so couldn't not finish with the other girl. Call the devil is not the same to see he coming.
yes it makes perfect sense.they were drunk.he went for their throat.wore protective clothing.he did it alone.with the k-bar knife he bought from amazon
The families have had to cruely endure so much. I pray they find peace & justice for their loved ones.
I’m sure the trial will bring out more information on his cell activity. Did he have a pattern of turning off his phone in the middle of the night while going on joy rides? Sure hope this trial is televised, would like to watch it, here in Washington.
Very good point! ✅
Sometimes my phone dies. I put it on a charger for a couple of hours and turn it back on when it's charged up. What would that prove? Evidence of what?
@@dougcorcoran5455It’s just another fact that looks bad when combined with other evidence.
I want to watch this trial and hear EVERYTHING
@@chrisstevens-xq2vbif it is not illegal to turn your phone off at convenience or for your phone to die then it isnt evidence it is called speculation.
❤ justice for idaho 4 ive been following this from the beginning can't believe it's nearly a year sending hope and strength to the families of the 4 from Manchester United Kingdom ❤
For a man so educated psychology in criminal justice. It just blows my mind that he would leave behind so much evidence. It blows my mind that he’d even take his phone with him.
what evidence? there's no bombshell piece that makes this a lock. the strongest piece is the dna, which is touch-dna, the weakest type, and completely circumstantial, as it's on an item that could have been brought there by someone else.
I see a lot of people commenting this and I still don't understand. How is the DNA (even if it is the 'weakest' type) not a complete lock? Even if someone somehow planted it with BK's DNA only (impossible), we know his car was there the exact time of the murders. DNA was planted and he just so happened to be there randomly himself? @@zzz7zzz9
@@zzz7zzz9Exactly! All I'm seeing is a whole lot of reasonable doubt
He didn't "leave" it... it was lost / dropped /removed during the crime. And DNA doesn't just magically appear on a KNIFE SHEATH snap AT THE CRIME SCENE.
@@doctordemento965 what's really odd is the lead investigator didn't get there until after 4 PM and no one seen the sheets until he got there
That girl not calling the police is odd. only explanation is the screaming and carrying on was usual in that house
Where does everyone keep getting that there was screaming? Dylan never says that in the PCA, playing w a dog and whimpering is very different than screaming. The neighbors called the cops on them for music, I’m sure if there was blood curdling screaming SOMEONE would have called the cops.
You forgot to mention that Kohberger's cell phone pinged on the 13th about 9:00 in the morning around 1122 King Road. Was he coming back to see if the police were there or was he hoping to retrieve the knife sheath? The defense needs to explain that in my opinion...
Yes you are right
What? How is the defense going to explain why a suspect returned to the area of the crime when the suspect themself won’t give that information? How exactly do u expect them to know that? And even if it was for a grocery run, does that change that his car was seen coming and going from the house at the time of the crime? Please help me understand ur logic lol
It’ll obviously be brought up, but it’s not a crime to drive down a street. Him being in the area doesn’t mean he was in the house or committed the crime. There were probably dozens of vehicles that drove by the residence that morning. It’s a residential street. Circumstantial evidence.
@@jimlahey3919 how many of those other cars owners had their DNA found on a knife sheath in the house though?
@@jimlahey3919You’re right. It’s one piece of circumstantial evidence and easy to dismiss when you focus on only that piece but this is like a puzzle. One piece doesn’t reveal the whole picture but when you put all the pieces together, it does and there’s a mountain of circumstantial evidence all of which point to BK as the culprit. The defense is gonna have a big problem trying to explain away all these pieces of evidence in a way that a jury will believe it. His alibi is already very weak and cannot be verified. Many killers have been convicted strictly on circumstantial evidence with no murder weapon or body. I think the prosecution has a strong case if they present it right and they will. That veteran prosecutor who’s about to retire knows what he’s doing. It’s not a slam dunk but it’s favoring the prosecution.
A lot of people in cases have been traumatized and still have testify
Yup!
I would rather testify than let this man do this to another person
@dr3v1l1993they didn’t testify for the grand jury and they seemed to agree there was probable cause to charge him. Yes it’s not the same as a conviction, but u have to give credence that the prosecution has more of a case than any of us know.
@@marakahl they did testify for the GJ
@dr3v1l1993 51 terabytes of digital evidence is not flimsy lol, and thats just the digital evidence!
My condolences to the parents and family of these beautiful kids I absolutely can't even imagine God bless stay strong
why wait so long to call the cops? soo many questions about the roomates
Because the devil 😈 told them not to. 😶
The girls are the killers
Evidence still doesn't make any sense to me. Why the wait to call 911. Why say it was an unconscious person. Why only one footprint not 2. Where is the murder weapon. Why cant we know who called 911 or hear the 911 call. And many more things that do not make any sense to me at all. It doesn't add up
There's a gag order in place. Plus, none of us are privy to the full array of evidence on either side.
Why, it's almost as if no one listened to the video... or reads any of the myriad articles about the case.
@@mortalclown3812 We do know there's no connection to the victims and there's no DNA from the victims anywhere in his belongings.
We also know the DNA is partial trace DNA>
The person probably fainted after seeing the crime scene from shock
the 911 call was from a neighbour walking by, who saw dylan come running from the house screaming, then pass out on the driveway. that person phoned 911 and reported an unconscious person(dylan). it was not a call regarding the murders.
@@zzz7zzz9 That's not true.
I think he got into the whole criminology thing too much. Having assignments like “think like a killer” triggered something that was always inside of him. He had to know what it felt like, he became obsessed. That’s my theory, at least.
I totally agree with you
I love you 2 guys! Thank you for awesome coverage!!
feels like the more these two spread false rumors, more people knows KOhberger is innocent😂
@@AlejandrMartínez-g4dnever it’s just a matter of time 😅
@@fofofofo3076 When they say the phone pinged in the area that really means a 1 -1.5 mile radius and they think it's damming evidence to gi through your thrash with gloves on ! They are also letting their emotions get to them over the roommate !
Greetings from Canada. Nice coverage. I like how in many states they allow cameras in the courthouse, not the case here in Canada for some reason.
Or the UK
Well the defense doesn't want cameras in the courtroom.
What about the roomates messaging their sorority/frat friends before even calling the police? How did everyone know about the murders before they called the police?
Not to mention said friends are the ones who called police. Nobody in that house ever dialed 911 at any time. Even the next day. AGAIN, no house member called 911. There is no police call from anyone that resides there. Friends called police. Very very unusual.
Entire campus was talking about something bad happening around 8 AM at breakfast that morning on campus. People knew something happened but maybe not exactly what. This is bigger than just blaming it on a patsy that was lined up by an outside agency. 1 guy didn't do 4 murders in 10 minutes, that's for sure impossible without specialized training and even then, 2 had defensive wounds and fought. Again, you will not convince a rational jury that 1 person did this in 10 minutes (prosecution timeline).
Ummm....lots of killers have taken out whole families or roommates in less than 10 minutes especially if the victims are in bed and off guard!
@@mikejohnson9960huh? That's more than enough time
@@bokjuuu 2 defensive and fighting, 1 adult male bigger than BK in size and strength. Add the size of the house. Down to 8 minutes with travel time from car to house.
SHE WASNT EVEN THE ONE TO CALL 9-11
I'm concerned about the three panel artwork in the background of the speaker.
“D” seeing bushy eyebrows in the dark is neither here or there. However what ensued for eight hours before calling 911 is beyond me. I hope the prosecution bring in more robust evidence. Certainly a strong circumstantial case.
Yeah cause his DNA on a knife sheath at a horrible scene of a murder is just weak circumstantial evidence 🥱
They called their close friends first to come and contaminate the crime scene. I want the right people arrested and charged as much as anyone, but not with how faulty this investigation has been. Friends from the area talk about how crooked the police are in those towns. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a frat/drug house and the dealers were taken out by more serious traffickers like the cartel.
@@coryc9040it really is in this case, because victim DNA should have transferred to BK. But it was neither found or reported after bludgeoning 4 people. Also remember, if BK acted alone, he was too efficient in killing 4 people in under 10minutes. It doesn’t make sense and the defense will easily explain everything.
And keep in mind D never called 911 at all. She invited friends over and friends called 911, A male caller called 911. Nobody at the house called 911 nor did anyone who resides there. The call came from randoms that do not live there. Scary stuff.
@@mikejohnson9960that would contaminate the entire crime scene.
Im convinced he studied criminology for sole reason to become a serial killer. Got cought after his first murders.
Maybe it was wasn't the first one
I think he thought he could get a way with it.
We don't know. However, he was scared when he first appeared to court, and now he looks very confident, too confident even for being judged for such horrible murders.
@@arelendil7 maybe he's innocent
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 its the southern version of caught 😆
The Roommate knows more…..
i’ve been keeping up with this case ever since it happened. this case has consumed me, and not in a good way. i wish they didn’t delay the case, although i understand why they did, because the defense needs time to build their arguments & points to try & exonerate Bryan.
all four beautiful students deserve justice! my friend knew Xana because she goes to the University of Idaho, and lived in Moscow. she moved home after what happened because she couldn’t feel safe no matter what she did.
Does she think the roommates had anything to do with it?
It has consumed me, too.....
Every night I just can't help but think what could happen to my parents or my sister.....
You are not alone for sure.....
It’s just a heartbreaking situation! These kids were all American kids just starting off their own lives. It reminds us that our children are never truly safe! It reminds us that there are sick people living in this world that do unimaginable things. This case has broke my heart and I have followed it also. It must be so hard for you because you know somebody that physically one of the victims. It more close to home my heart goes out to their families.
consumed you? jesus christ, go outside.
Not one time has he ever yelled out "I didn't do it " . If you were innocent and you were put under arrest for something you did not do, most people would be filled with anger and would let it show . This is not happening with Bryan Kohberger .
Exactly!!
How would you know?
Bundy screamed how innocent he was for years
If the defense tells him to stay quiet he will do that
I don’t understand how they used IGG but then at the same time don’t seem to have the information to hand over…?!? weird!?!?
Because the ef bee eye did it. They didn't document their results and then they got rid of it. The State doesn't have anything to give.
This judge needs to slam his gavel down and make them provide the evidence for the defendant's arrest.
They got it
The FBI doesn’t like to tell people how they got stuff it seems
I’m not saying they are hiding anything it’s more that they just don’t want people to know how they get their intel
@@jakemiller4411 especially when it's shady
This is the first I’ve heard all the details summarized. This is going to be a very interesting case. I hope if he is guilty that true justice will be served. 1year of pain and suffering for the victims families, so heartbreaking 💔
All the details of the case were NOT summarized. The details of the prosecution's case against a specific suspect were summarized. Big difference.
@@JakeKoenig Well said.
@@JakeKoenigWell, tbf, that's usually how it goes. I mean, you don't hear the prosecution summarizing details about a "hypothetical" suspects' case 🤷🏽♂️
Of course he'd fvcking guilty. Smh...
Bryan K is one of the creepiest people I’ve ever seen
Really - I truly doubt that - people write the dumbest s@##$$%%^t
Being creepy isn't a crime.
you only think that because of all the accusations and media attention he has gotten. i see creepier people every single day.
Let’s say he’s been in the house a million times. Why is a knife sheath, with his DNA on it, found under a victim’s body? Who cares if his DNA is elsewhere?
You don't understand how DNA works or how his team will argue that.
1. You don't know how many other DNA samples they collected of other unknown people in the same place.
2. This is likely "touch DNA" or "trace DNA", which is notoriously vulnerable to accidental transfer by investigators.
3. He could have handled the sheath innocently prior to the knife inside it being used to commit a crime by someone else.
These are just a few of the many possibilities his team will likely be considering.
Watch the trial, because I guarantee you your beliefs and opinions are simple right now only because you only have one part of this story laid out for you. When the science really gets going it's all going to become far more complex, probably to the point where you'd also be wondering whether he really did it.
@@ct5625I think that’s a bunch of hoopla until we know for sure where the DNA was found. If it was literally UNDER the snap in an area that would have skin cells from that person regularly handling it and an area that cannot be cleaned without removing the actual snap, then to me ur case holds no water and solidifies it was his.
Great questions!!
What was with the red mustang and them bleach cleaning the car?
This guys gonna walk. Been calling it from the start.
You know, it’d be nice to see at least one clip of this dude saying, “What in the actual… I seriously never go near that phkn place. I’m trying not to fail my phkn anatomy class.”
Alot of us in moscow are moving the heck out the town has a weird feeling now and it's so saddening
Lol. You're not a citizen and a lot of folks aren't moving out because of this.
it’s pretty creepy tho. i used to live up on Borah overlooking the botanical gardens, right up the hill from 1122 King. Moscow was always such a calm picturesque place. i think this event was much more than just one college kid murdering other kids. It’s too much. There’s way too much. Blood for one thing. Those kids were not stabbed. It was way worse than any slasher film. Something else is going on.
Very coincidental his phone pings the day of the incident near the house and he’s joyriding in the area supposedly 12 times before the incident!
Hope you’re not on the jury. Guilt until proven innocent.
@@sunnydays316 wrong
@@sunnydays316we have our opinion just like you have yours
@@sunnydays316He didn't say guilty..he said 'coincidental'. So let's see how many more coincidentals there are..aka..dna on knife pouch.
His house is 10 miles from the tower. His phone most likely connects to that tower when he's in his driveway!
Why would you not want to testify if 4 of your best friends were slaughtered just down the hall???
What about the red mustang bleach cleaning?
She has to testify to explain why it took 8 hours to call 911
She was scared to call as she knows the murderers and qas threatened there where also drugs involved
@@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367u need to stop spreading complete bs bc ur twisted mind thinks it’s a good story lol
her room was downstairs. She came home late and just went to her room. Figured her roommates were fine.
No actually, she doesnt. Shes not on trial here.
It was like her brain shut down. Some people cannot deal with traumatic situations.
It's crazy, someone with an associates degree in psychology and a doctoral candidate in criminal justice can't even commit a clean crime. Hopefully justice is adequate in this case
He would've been better off doing a binge watch of every Dateline and 48 Hours episode. Perhaps then he would've known the quirky little things that look sus af e.g. leaving a phone off or at home on the one night that a person is a suspect in a murder.
I think it is all a game for him.
I’m just thankful that it is that difficult other wise he would probably have more victims by now.
@@mikeserra9462a game that he WILL lose
@@mikeserra9462 I agree. He appears very smug in court.
It will be interesting to see the trial. There’s so much we still don’t know about this case. I have so many questions.
Yeah but even if he was there before what are the odds of his dna being on the sheath left under one of the deceased? The car being in the area 12 times in 5 months prior to murders and the night of the murders. His phone being turned off during the murders. I believe in coincidences but after so many coincidences something ain't right. However, we will see if the states case is as strong as the media seems to think it will be.
yep, only low if buffoons defend him at this point.
none of that proves he is the killer
@@TheShoshie10no, but it builds on circumstantial
It's all circumstantial evidence..The DNA on the sheath is evidence...The prosecution does not tell all the evidence they have so we have to wait and see..
@@DD-dq1ed yea, when the circumstantial evidence makes it one in a million chance of it all just being a coincidence that tells a lot. So he's just randomly driving around the house at the night of the murder, turns his phone off, has bushy eyebrows, intersted in murders, weirdo vibe, his DNA in the house..
I find it hard to believe that the wittiness did not hear either of the murders.
Maybe she was on drugs/ had sheaf phones in but it doesn’t make sense!
If I heard one of my friends crying I would of went over and checked up on them or texted them
One of those stories you will always remeber
When is the trial schedule for?
12:01AM 1/1/2024 😶
Justice for the Idaho 4. Prayers for their families and friends.
Please... always useless prayers... grow up! 😶
@@alphaomega1351it's a nice thought.
@@alphaomega1351 You don’t believe in prayer? That’s fine. Move on and keep your opinion to yourself. No need to be rude by disrespecting someone’s beliefs.
How people think he is innocent is beyond me!!
She absolutely WILL have to testify. An eye witness?
I really love this podcast but the transition sounds are really harsh and uninviting. I don’t mean to be nit picky just sensitive to those sounds. And also want to reiterate how I love this and it provides so much for us listeners.
IMO .. why wouldn’t someone who’s a witness to their best friends crime want to testify and bring their killer to justice.. if she doesn’t testify I think that adds to the fishiness to her whole story.
And if Kohberger doesn’t testify it looks fishy too. Let him explain his driving behaviour😵💫👺
@@chrisstevens-xq2vb completely different scenario when your life is on the line.
@@chrisstevens-xq2vbyou should never take the stand in your own trial.
@@45square You’re right, he shouldn’t take the stand but his actions will still need explaining. The prosecution will ask for answers and so will the jury
She’s not on trial!!!! She’s a barely-legal girl in the same house her friends were massacred!
Stop focusing on innocent people. Let’s go with the evidence only. 😅
You have the right against self incrimination. DNA is self incrimination.
$50 says he’s guilty
Yep. He's got those serial killer eyes. Blank, dead, eyes.
@nikolaimcfly6883 who did it? Trump?
@nikolaimcfly6883 everything is trumps fault. Gotta blame someone. Works for sleepy joe
@nikolaimcfly6883 $50 says he did it.
2$ says he guilty
She definately needs to testify! She needs to also explain why she did not call police until hours later.... such as being fearful or because perhaps she was on drugs and was impaired.... which could be a problem. Unfortunatley, with out ALL of the evidence being releases, BK has already been convicted in many of the media outlets courts of opinions. I personally do not know if he did or did not do it, but want to hear ALL the evidence and ALL witnesses before sentencing someone to death. After all, if he is innocent and put to death.... and then find out someone else did this.... can't come back from that. This entire case is sad all around, but everyone should want to COMPLETE truth instead of a witch hunt. Think you should bring Sarah on more as she seems to have the correct opinion of getting to the truth of the matter instead of creating a situation where BK can't get a fair trial which could be problematic later.
She's not on trial. I don't see why she should have to answer any questions. It's ironic that you complain a witch hunt when you're the one hunting. Get a grip on yourself.
FYI I’m fairly certain she never called 911.
LOL what? The police found no evidence she is involved yet here you are putting her on trial. 😂
@@abebuckingham8198she’s a witness. She needs to testify.
@@lloydchristmas1086she needs to testify.
Do we know when the actual trial is?
there were 3 other male DNA profiles that were unidentified????? nice
Not really an issue
Brian entin does a great job on all his reporting over the last two years he's become my favorite reporter and honestly I only trust his reporting because he's fair to both sides no matter what unfortunately today's reports a good % arent. Prayers to the victims family and friends my heart goes out to them this is such a sad story that was so uncalled for. I pray the family gets justice and closure when this is all done, and people respect thier privacy. God bless
I am sorry but why would kohberger who is almost 30 be partying with 20 year olds ? He wouldn't ... also he didn't know them , didn't know anyone in their circle of acquaintances.. he didn't go to that university and didn't live in moscow .. just ridiculous
Maybe he learned that from his study about how anonymous people chose their victims and got away with their crimes? Make it seem as random as possible, be quick and meticulous, plan ahead to make it seem routine. Who knows, but for someone who studies murder like it’s their job I don’t think it would be that hard. That questionnaire was still up even after the murders so I am sure he definitely got some good tips and tricks from it.
He had seen 2 of the girls at the vegan restaurant afew times, probably where his obsession started
Jesse.... What's going on with the background set....? It looks like you're sitting in a violent crime scene! 😮
the girl who came out of her room and allegedly made eye contact with him and didnt get killed by the guy who apparently just killed 4 people and now has a whitness that he just leaves without sorting out? think about it for a second, something smells really fishy
100%
Where does it say they made eye contact? Where does it even say that he saw her? U don’t have to see someone for them to see u
no, there was no murder weapon left. @dr3v1l1993
Dang, I was excited to hear about the IGG - Investigative Genetic Genealogy...but I guess I'll settle for GED match.
There's even more that's sealed 💀💀💀
feels like the more NewsNation spread false rumors, more people knows KOhberger is innocent😂
that car or a car?? assume they have number plate recognition to put his specific car in all the places they say.
Nobody is gonna see a guy in your house after hearing that and just go back to bed.. No way
My fear of the media releasing supposed evidence against an
" alleged " killer, may cause a monumental failure bias wise. How feasible would it be to actually find a non corrupted juror?
People who are interested in true crime follow this stuff. 99% of the people in my life are completely uninterested in all of this. They will listen if I bring it up but only a couple of friends actually follow the trials and cases. A lot of people avoid news like this.
Do you believe this to be the first high profile criminal case in human history?
@@gobgoerrsarah This. Only people who follow true crime know anything about this case. It's not on the news.
Bro OJ had a media circus like this , he wasn’t convicted .
Just maybe they have more than a knife sheath DNA , just seems impossible to kill 4 people in a multi-storey house in 10 mins without leaving a trail a mile wide . Let alone all the electronic evidence we don’t know off .
The jury will be comprised of locals and they might hate college kids for all the trouble they cause !
This is a very very circumstantial case…
Lots are.
Most are. There are many cases convicted on less evidence than this.
I have literally never heard of this!!
It’s telling how media are ignoring the bombshells about there being no connection to the victims, no evidence in his car/apartment/house, 3 unidentified male DNA (2 in the house, 1 on a glove outside), IGG issues, roommates’ behavior
Yeah, they are so blatantly biased, it's disgusting....they gloss over ALL of the glaringly obvious inconsistencies involved with LE !
Follow the money and how they want to take down the house before the trial the main evidence in this trial. .
So many murders have similar circumstances. Look at Delphi, the arrest was made bc of a bullet when the girls weren’t even shot and a split second video of a man 30 feet away. No DNA evidence, no link to the victims. The suspect was still arrested. Still indicted. Just bc a murder doesn’t make sense doesn’t mean the person isn’t guilty and circumstantial evidence supports that regardless of claiming to be framed as a cover up for corruption. The media isn’t here to act as counsel and majority of the public has seen enough crimes to know a lot of what u said doesn’t matter.
What do you mean, IGG ussues? And what are you talking about with "roommates behavior"?
There absolutely is a connection to the victims, he stalked them FFS.
Agreed. There is a huge lack of evidence in the case and also the prosecution still cannot provide discovery to the defense. They’ve had to ask TEN times! They also refuse to mention the schools importance of protecting the Greek system (frats and sorority) and the 180 million dollar deal that could be jeopardized if the university reputation is tainted. Along many OTHER possible connections to other people including the person that was found to been taking steroids regularly and got into a the big fight with Ethan that night at a party which was so bad they had to leave. Other DNA was found as well not just BK.
I have some request to the Law&Crime Team. The moments when you show the pices of photos from courtroom have very poor sound, could you make louder in your next video. These fragments are very hard to hear and understand specially if someone is not native English speakers, as I am. Thank you in advance.
Hello from Ireland, I'm following this case since the beginning it's so sad & heartbreaking 💔 I feel so sorry for their families. I just can't understand why DM did not call the police and was he in that much 9f a trance he didn't see her, why leave a witness? Does anyone know when the trail is set to start? 😢
Yes an doesn't involve a gun..
I know I didn't mention a gun!!!!
@@suzanne6394I’m in W Wales 🏴 this crime’s so heinous. BK does suffer from vision condition that appear as snow in front of eyes, not sure if that explains ignoring the witness. Another theory floating around is the killer didn’t plan to murder Ethan & Xana so was trying to get out asap through planned escape route. However until hearing all evidence still sitting on fence, want justice for these families 💔
@@anni610 Hi thanks for your reply, I didn't realize he suffered with vision issue's, that explains alot for me now. I know poor xana n Dylan to think they should not have being there OMG it's just as sad n heartbreaking as the rest of the murders. I feel awful saying I can't wait for the trail as 4 families are grieving & yet most of the world is fixated on this, But it's mainly curiousity & making sure the families get justice bless them all🙏
Ethan I meant not Dylan, apologies.
So there is gonna be more stuff coming out in the court trial god i wish it was now i wanna know more of the other stuff they have sealed
I wouldn't call any of this evidence to be very damning. Hopefully the prosecutors have more to go on than this.
They don't. The Grand Jury requested to see more evidence and the prosecutor instead had the judge admonish the jury and remind them the instruction was probable cause and not reasonable doubt to indict someone. 6 members of the Grand Jury asked to see more evidence in order to indict him, and were told there is no more evidence. The judge had to admonish them to get them to indict BK in the first place. This case is borderline violation of BK's constitutional rights to due process.
@@mikejohnson9960how did the judge admonish them to get an indictment? I’m not challenging this, it’s a genuine question.
HES GUILTY ASF
@@leelunk8235 He certainly looks suspicious, but you can't be convicted on the basis of being suspicious
@@gutar5675 THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..HE DID IT AND WILL BE CONVICTED ON IT..THIS IS PAST THE SUSPICIOUS PART..HES ON TRIAL FOR A REASON
Is no one going to talk about the fact that no one heard the dog barking? If someone came into my home my dogs would lose their minds and bark continuously. Did he enter the home when no one was home? It seems like the dog was familiar with him to not bark.
Idk - but the frat stuff coming to light lately should be looked at, as well. This whole thing is just "off".
It’s a party house, LOTS of people are in and out of the house everyday. The dog probably just thought oh cool another person.
I am from India, i have been following this case since the first day, Could anybody explain, why there was a gag order by the court not to publish the details of the case to the public, i have seen gag orders where the celebrities / political leaders involved cases, to protect their personal life, why it was applied to this case??
I think in this case it was done to protect Kohberger‘s right to a fair trial. If too many details are known to the public it might taint the jury pool and just delay the whole process or the case could even get thrown out…
This will become more common until there are laws introduced to control the hysteria that is SM. The judge is trying to ensure a fair trial but I'm not sure that's possible because so many people are influenced already by content like this.
being a common man, it shows the better side of the judiciary system where a non celebrity were able to press a gag order, on the other side the culprit should get the maximum punishment, lets hope justice will prevail to the affected people..
There is a gag order because they don't want the jury tainted. The public cannot be trusted and tell too many lies and twist the truth. Some of the information is so graphic it might make the potential jury pool convict him before they step foot in court. They don't want that to happen, so they keep the info sealed.
These are quadruple homicides not celebrities divorce, custody or financial issues. These people were stabbed, and the perp might get death. It's best to keep the info. sealed until trial.
My comment was missing. They have to keep a gag order to protect the case. If the information is out in the public, the jurors will make up their minds before they get to court, and that's a bad thing for him.
Here to rewatch and check out facts. So much other stuff being thrown around!
RIP 4 beautiful angels
Am I the only true crime fan who looks at this case and is like....wtf nothing makes sense. It is not easy to NOT project intentions/behavioral expectations....however, if I were innocent and were not a sociopath or suffering from some other kind of personality disorder, I would be in hysterics about this and my claims to innocence. I would be exasperated. And, that in mind, there is also no reason for his DNA and other piecemeal evidence to be something that even exists/is a thing. His approach, while technically legally advisable in some ways, is still damning in other ways. Let's not glaze over the bizarre reaction of the roommate who "saw" the stranger and just did not do anything for HOURS. I get being frozen in time sorta, but not in the scope of hours. Freeze, but then call the effing police asap! None of this makes sense...
Yeah there are a lot of things that make no sense, I'm with you. The roommate not calling is huge, and it gets explained away as shock, when no one has ever acted that way. And then just the reporting on it the next day. They were reporting that 4 kids died, and not that they were stabbed. People thought they had OD'ed. It's obvious they were stabbed, but that was always treated weirdly. A LOT of this case is extremely wonky, not just the murders themselves or Kolberger.
You sound like your team kohberger. Good luck with that.
Pretty shortly, we'll see the evidence. But I think it's strange how people are flocking to defend Bryan.
I took his Reddit survey, before it was taken down.
His Facebook and socials were live for weeks.
@@marylou4324 im not sure what gave you the impression that I am team seeming sociopath. I think we are just talking about the evidence that has been presented so far to both the defense and the public, and that it really doesnt explain much. I honestly think he probably is culpable...however, there are some difficult to explain pieces of the narrative that are lingering in terms of possible prosecution evidence. Questions to be answered is all. And I honestly hope justice is served in a way that doesnt allow a killer to remain on the loose! His affect is unnerving.
I think assuming a college student in a party house would reason like a fully mature adult brain is ludicrous. Just saying. Why is the roommate the on trial?
I think it’s very dangerous to make assumptions about human behavior, which is why I’m glad “evidence” exists.
The thing I feel is strange is why only those four people were killed, and not everyone in the house. There has to be some connection between him and the four victims
I think it is because Maddie was the target he researched enough to know Kaylee had moved out and so when he went in to Maddie room and Kaylee was there he kinda freaked killed them both , went to get out and ran in to Ethan who was half asleep and had been drinking , he killed him and than had to kill Zana to get out and was so full of anxiety and fear of getting out that he didn't even notice the other roommate.
@@artfrommymind1096 being full of anxiety and fear would lead one to be hurried and careless. he was very calm and precise. even dylan claims the person simply walked by her and out the door.
It's not just his ping activity leading up to the murders that is suspicious. The PCA states that after the 14th, his phone never pinged a Moscow tower again in the 6 weeks leading up to his arrest.
His phone pinged off the tower 11-14-23 even though he wasn't in town. Sounds like the pings are very unreliable.
@@dougcorcoran5455 they are! 25 mile radius
@@dougcorcoran5455how do u know he wasn’t “in town” the PCA says it pings on the tower but they don’t believe he was near the house. Most likely bc his car is not seen on cameras in the neighborhood. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t “in town”
@@marakahl so his phone pinged the tower but he wasn't near the crime scene. You would be a good defense witness! Your right, phone pings aren't reliable!
@@marakahl there is no way he could have been in town 11 1423 because he was in jail… I’m not saying I don’t think he did this. I was just responding to this one comment.
Prosecution seems defensive about the DNA request...... that's peculiar
They are reluctant to really give the public any info on genetic tracing like that and always have been. They don’t want to deter the public from doing it bc it really is a great resource for solving crimes. They have used it in cold cases for years. The difference in this case is that it’s the first time they have used it in real time. So it’s never really been litigated and the judges ruling will mostly likely be used as reference in cases going forward. One of the first things that drew me to this case was exactly how the judge would rule in what should be allowed as discovery bc in a way, it really is like an informant that just gives a name.
I cant believe its been a wholw year! I guess he has all the time in the world to fight this and 23 hours to read!
Whose phones were pinging in the area
Still waiting for proof. This dude is walking.
the public already know 2 roommates are guilty of murder and clean up for 8 hours. does anyone actually think BK is guilty?
@@Leaschmid7This channel and the old ladies leaving comments say he's guilty.
@@Leaschmid7The FBI, ISP and MPD found no evidence whatsoever of the two roomates being involved in the crimes. Please stop spreading misinformation. BK is on trial for a reason. All the facts will come out during the trial.
I highly doubt he is walking we literally are only seeing 10 percent of information. He would be out on bond if that was the case.
@@Leaschmid7No they don't.
I think there is a lot more to this case
It seems like every once in a while a high profile case gets a not guilty verdict…. OJ Simpson , Casey Anthony…. This man could possibly be the next.
That's what I think. I'm seriously worried this is another case that could end in a not guilty verdict
@justme-cr2zc
Folks whining before opening statements need to look at the same kinds of comments before Murdaugh trial and the Markel murder trials, too.
Juries tend to get it right.
Fgs, the evidence hasn't even been released.
Nah he’s so guilty
Yes and our sweet kind honest pres trump released rod blagoiavich, smart move there don
Lots of people running around the Queen rd. Apts. parking lot that night ! Besides a few vehicles. Which is only 100 yards from 1122 King.
I think you should also do a video on the defence case. Like the weaknesses in the prosecution case to be unbiased. I know persecution has a lot of evidence but I also think some of their evidence is also questionable. Don’t know what you guys think. So maybe invite like a defence lawyer to see where they could poke holes on the prosecution case
How do you know if Prosecution's evidence is weak if there is a gag order in place??
@@Pllm30 Because 6 members of the Grand Jury requested more evidence before indictment. The judge had to admonish the jurors who asked for more evidence. 6 people had doubts about this case. If the prosecution had more evidence it would have been presented to a Grand Jury, especially where 6 of them felt the evidence was lacking. The judge had to remind them it's not about reasonable doubt, it's probable cause aka probable suspicion that he could have done it. 6 jurors had doubts he did this, but later agreed it was "possible" only after the judge reread the instruction.
These people are biased . when they say the phone pinged around the area that means in a 1 - 1.5 mile radius and they think going through the trash with gloves on is damning evidence !
@@antonycuff4512 Was disappointed to learn some of the location data is based on a 25 mile coverage area when he crosses back into the state line. The only way they are putting him near the house is the blurry videos of a car that hasn't been proven to be his. They say it's his car, yet they can't prove it with any evidence. The location data falls apart at that point for me.
@@mikejohnson9960 Yet the grand jury STILL decided to indict him on the evidence presented. The GD doesnt get to decide on what evidence they see, they are instructed to make a decision based on what they have seen....and they did! LOL
You're mixing up Dylan with Bethany.
"Hi i'm innocent. I'm willing to waive a speedy trial to stay in jail for an indeterminate amount of years incarcerated although i'm in the middle of studying for my phD." "oh btw my alibi is I was driving aimlessly with noone to verify or confirm where i was during the times of the murders".... bro.. stop wasting tax payer money
Who goes for a drive on Snowy Night in November in the Middle of the night? Driving in those circumstances is stressful not relaxing!
Brian Entin is a liar. The PCA even specifically states that they have NO IDEA whether the phone was on or off or simply out of range. Get a grip. Why lie?
CRAZY EYES
Phone pings show general location within several miles (he lived 9 miles away), they don’t show precise location. He could have been anywhere in Moscow and even outside of Moscow and ping a tower in Moscow
False. Moscow has 3 towers and Pullman has their own 3. The triangulation in these very small towns actually makes it quite easy to narrow down where in each town ur phone is located.
He got so close to that house that his phone connected to their wifi on several seperate occasions late at night, when he was presumed to be staking out the house, maybe failed attempts to gain entry
@@Miss-bizzy-body that’s baseless hearsay. It was just speculation
@@marakahl there is only one actual cell phone tower in Moscow. The other two are mini towers placed on a water tower and a building. One of them doesn’t even reach King Road. So there’s no way to do triangulation
@@pappa_rodger it was stated as a fact by kaylees father, and he knows more than we do
Someone else is involved
im more concerned about the blood spattered all over the outside of your vocal booth...
If that's what they were going for, it's a bit on the nose isn't it?
I hadn't heard about the pharmacy visit... whether it's a tually a piece of the puzzle we will see
During the prosecution’s rebuttal close in the death penalty phase of the trial, the prosecutor will hold up that picture of the 4 victims.
They will hold up a lot more than that. The jury will be reminded of the brutality of the crime itself, not just the beautiful lives lost. This is going to be a really tough case for a jury to sit through. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
what is with the gedmatch ad I can't remove
This is the first I have heard of this… 😢
my first thought is, when someone stabbed these kids so much surely the shoes will have blood on and leave prints on flooring, there has to be loads of clues
Shoe liners would leave a size print , but blood wouldn’t show up unless it had a hole with a leak . But I’m more curious if they found blood Down his shower , sink and washing machine pipes & what DNA came back ..
And yet, as far as we know, no other evidence of this type has been found.
His DNA should be all over, even a nose hair, but it's NOT! CASE. DISMISSED, YOU WILL SEE
Them eyebrows ain't bushes no more😂
Never were, I bet.
He trimmed those eye brows and it’s very noticeable
@@gojobuddy you’re dreamin.
Truly think about what the surviving roommates really thought, if any of you were in the same situation you would be telling yourself nothing was going on like MURDER? No, no one would think a murder was actually going on. Goodness, these poor kids had no clue. People need to leave the survivors alone.
He went down to the Albertson's in Clarkston, Washington. I bet he threw the murder weapon into the nearby big Snake River.
How deep is the river