Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
13 years & 7 months for killing & dismembering & hiding a body...? That is an insult to Carmen's entire family! Life in New Zealand must be considered cheap. Sad.
Rip Carmen. I had to repeat the sentence part because I couldn’t believe it. Thirteen years & 7 months for taking someone’s life is too little! Justice comes cheap there for sure.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄 She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive! Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 agreed. you should never lie about paternity thus collecting money from them in order to increase your status. People get what they deserve. she was from the gutter and that's where she ended up. oh well, that's what a liar and thief deserves. This show is about detective work, not morals or LACK OF in this situation
In the US, he would have gotten life or life without parole. I can't believe he only got 13 years and 7 months! He stole the mother of his son, and the daughter of her mother. They will have a life sentence of grief and loss. The investigation was top notch, butNew Zealand needs to revise their sentencing if they really want to deter killers.
I love the detail of their work; I watch these documentaries because I love research, and theirs is SO detailed. This film, also very well put together.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
Wow, this creep would have gotten life without parole in the US. So sad for her family. Wha’s scary is this piece of garbage will be out in a very short amount of time and could harm someone else.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
They did a fantastic job. Hard to imagine how a human being can do this to another. How is it that this punishment does not fit the crime. Their laws seriously need to be changed. This is not “justice”.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
Completely sickening, that this country, sees killing someone, as only a decade in prison. Now he is going to get out and do it again, only this time, he will be a lot smarter on how to get away with it.
@@Acts-xu7th it’s very different from American. What are you talking about? Rarely do you get such a light sentence and only if the circumstances call for it- or if you are wealthy and have a well paid lawyer. Which is a disgrace to our justice system! Wealthy people get away with so much in this world and I’m sick of it.
Lenient?? She was a prostitute and a liar, she was not a nice person it wasn’t his child! She caused this to happen it was a result of bad karma that she was spreading!
Wow….So in 1981-82 I was stabbed from the neck down. The man that did this to me got 35 years, he was out after 15 years. This man here kills this beautiful woman and he’s out in 13 yrs…WHAT! What sense does that make?
It makes no sense. No sane person could make sense of such a travesty. I hope you are doing well and encounter nothing but peace and happiness for the rest of your life.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
@@katherinekeon7034 I didn’t say she did, did I 🙄? Reading comprehension doesn’t seem to exist anymore.. I said that she received bad karma for her bad actions.. 🤷🏿♂️
So she wasn’t evil?? What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄 She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive! Peace and blessings’
This channel and program is awesome. I can’t get enough of it! Since I live in the states I don’t know about these cases and it’s refreshing to see something new since I’ve watched just about everything here in the states. 👏🏼
Firstly condolences and prayers to the family and loved ones especially her little boy of Miss Carmen May her soul rest in eternal peace and may true Justice prevail on her behalf
Omg the investigators were on it. A woman was missing and they kept working. They didn’t let it go cold. It’s sad how he got such little time for not only killing but dismembering someone?? May she rest in peace😢
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
I am familiar with this case, but I hadn’t seen a documentary on it prior to watching this video. My thoughts and prayers are with Carmen’s family and loved ones. Rest in peace Carmen. 💗
This was very well put together as was the entire gruelling work done to bring justice to victims and families. Thank you for making this available for all the hard work and dedication and heart. I think this would bring some comfort to the grievous families. Maybe after some time as it would take a long time to think about something so horrific and relive the pain and suffering of losing someone, especially in this way. For me it would be comforting knowing that this much work is done. The large team of people working on cases like these are truly honourable individuals. With great admiration and gratefulness, thank you to those who do this mission.
It's only a matter of time before people committing crimes know enough to turn off their cell phones, or leave them somewhere so authorities can't use the data from their cell phones to track their activities, location. Currently, that information often gives investigators invaluable clues.
The cleaning kit brought at the store is telling. Guys never buy cleaning stuff. Beautiful woman obviously she had to do something to support his kid, not enough income. That civil engineer could help her , piece of s$&?!
His kid?? Are you people blind or deaf?? It wasn’t his child that’s what this is all about! What is wrong with society and people’s ability to NOT understand CAUSE and EFFECT?? He murked her because she told him point blank that the child was not his! 🙄 She was a horrible person! If she wasn’t she’d still be alive.. Peace and blessings’
Another light sentence! The justice system here in the US is far from perfect, but if someone is found guilty of premeditated murder, though there may at times be some exceptions, they’re not getting out. And in some cases they’re put to death.
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄 She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive! Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 The life she destroyed punished her with the death sentence and that's ok? PLUS we don't even know if that's a true story. She may have been horrible, I'm not saying she was a saint but she was human. I hope you feel being bashed to death with a bat, lthen cut up was a good enough punishment for her mrquick. We'd hate to see a liar walking around free now wouldn't we?
If I were the police, detectives, forensic scientists and everyone else involved in this case I’d consider the sentence a huge slap in the face!!! Why even bother when nothing basically happens to the murderer?!
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
That guy deserved life in prison without the possibility of parole!!!!! That is disguising. Life for a life NZ!!!!! So sad that the DI actually thought that that was a good sentence.
They give more time to drug dealers in America than the Uk, Canada, Australia,New Zealand etc gives guilty murderers. What a slap in the face to the families . Sad
Gotta wonder...I've been living in the same spot for nigh on 8 years, with partners, guests, small gatherings, pets...and there is literally ZERO blood anywhere. If you pick up blood in any home, at the volume you see here...then shit has gone down that shouldn't have...people clean that up right away from an accident, it's a bio-hazard. If you see it...shit has gone down.
LE, forensics & everyone involved did an awesome job finding & putting everything together with all their combined knowledge to solve her horrific murder. Very well done✔️✔️✔️ Only 13 years???!... He should have received the death penalty for everything he did to her! Plus, using her lil boys baseball bat to kill her & leaving her lil boy without his mommy forever! 💔 Rest Easy Carmen~ I'm so sorry 💔
As others have already pointed out, this is not my idea of justice. A premeditated murder, desecration of a body by the murderer, robbing an innocent child of his mother, and all the rest. The sentence does not reflect an adequate punishment for such a horrendous crime. Not knowing how the NZ laws are structured regarding Capital murder makes me think it is possible to take another person’s life and receive a mild slap on the wrist kind of punishment. Not justice.
The hardest thing in my opinion would be to continue living with myself knowing what a thrash I am. That is much harder than prison time. At least for me.
@@Bringiton513 Your reply tells me you are a better person than that killer will ever be. He is not suffering a moment of remorse for his heinous crime; he is remorseful over being caught.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
If you want to basically get away with murder go to the UK. THEY OFTEN talk about how harsh punishment is in America….when you take a life, you should expect to give up yours. Murdering and dismembering a young women’s body …and the penalty is ONLY 13 years? That’s an insult not only to the victim but to her family and friends as well! In America he would have gotten a life sentence, that’s what he deserved!
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
I love how the UK detectives are so thorough! Even the scientists and forensic experts are explaining everything in details that I’m over here wishing they’d stop so criminals don’t take notes 😅
Although he was in all likelihood completely dishonest as to what sent him into the murderous rage, I hope they followed through with DNA testing of the child. It might be the only good news the son could get out of this horrific story - he IS NOT your father! May the victim RIP and his son not be tormented every day by what happened. Karen
The son is surely his as the child is living with his mother in a rural area in NZ . In the words of Carmen's mother Teresa Scott who lives in S Africa 'her daughter had come to New Zealand from England for Jack's dad, whom she met in the UK and later separated from. She had a marketing degree and had initially worked at a recruitment agency when she moved to Auckland' Mother daughter did not share the best of relationships & the last communication was by email some 9 weeks before the murder. Communication between them was not frequent.
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄 She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive! Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 That sounds like quite a stretch in thinking to me. First, my opinion is in no way based on caring less for men than women - a really big stretch on your part. Second, how can you possibly assume he would be telling the truth about anything? An even bigger stretch is required to think a psychopath/sociopath is capable of offering anything other than lies at the best of times; when facing consequences for their actions as he was at that time, truthfulness is practically unheard of. Third, some of us are capable of deciphering individual cases based on the facts presented and without making gender a consideration. If there was any proof that she had indeed lied to him about paternity, that would have been despicable, but still not justification to do what he did. How anyone could reach the conclusion that she brought this all on by lying about paternity says much more about you than her, and goes beyond simple stretching of the facts. Did you even watch the video? I'm led to believe that you have been wronged, from your perspective, by one or more females in the past. Or are you just aiming to get under the skin of others? Karen
@@mrquick6775 I feel my reply to you was overly harsh and apologize for that. You seem genuine and please know that some of us are able to care equally for either gender, depending on the circumstances. Some of the information you listed is skewed however as she didn't destroy any life - the creep only came up with the idea of accusing her of the paternity lie in an attempt to lessen his culpability once in court and facing the charges. It actually could have been a blessing for the son though if it had been true. You offered me love and blessings earlier, and I would like to reciprocate with same. Take care. Karen
Many people are upset with the amount of time he received and rightfully so It’s the same here in the USA People receive more time for manslaughter than 1st degree It’s sickening and a slap in the face to the families 😢
Great video! That being said as an American is hilarious to hear adults in a serious tone calling something a “wheely bin” over & over 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I get that’s what it’s called over there… statement still stands
Seriously, I think some countries have to reconsider sentencing. What kind of citizen will a man make if he's capable of killing his son's mother. Can't change evil.
None of these murders make any sense whatsoever. WHY? Why do people do these horrendous things to another human and discard them as if they were only trash? It baffles me as to how they think they'll get away with it and then the poor child/children are the ones to suffer. How do they explain this to their children when they are grown, what they did to the other parent? It takes a special kind of wickedness, I think.
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Did he say 13 years!!?? That's not at all a long enough sentence for this brutal crime!! This maniac deserves a life sentence with no parole!!!
Yep, this is what you get for killing a mother of your child. CRAZY.
If someone is truly guilty of a crime like this it’s Old Yeller time.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
Everyone did an absolutely amazing job! But 13 years??? That is NOT justice!
Absolutely…incredible step by step meticulous work…13 years though?
And the police officer said he got the max, with increased time for hiding the crime!! New Zealand is really soft on crime. That is outrageous!!!!
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
That’s Socialism
That’s Canada for you 😂😂😂 we can get away with anything. Very short sentences and most time, none
13 years & 7 months for killing & dismembering & hiding a body...? That is an insult to Carmen's entire family! Life in New Zealand must be considered cheap. Sad.
Simply Tragic
A sentence of 13 years, 7 months for this crime is an insult to LIFE!😡
So I did hear right! Wow... u take a life a leave ur child parentless and need that up and u get close to 14 yrs😢
Wow new Zealand sure doesn't prosecute killers!?!13 years for murdering a x wife..Shame on you new Zealand u sure don't value a life!
The dead victims are the losers in New Zealand. The suspects are benefitting lineant law.
Rip Carmen. I had to repeat the sentence part because I couldn’t believe it. Thirteen years & 7 months for taking someone’s life is too little! Justice comes cheap there for sure.
Crazy isn't it.
Me too I was like I heard that right. And they were pleased with the sentience!?
This is Europe they much more lenient.
@@Denvermorgan2000 This was New Zealand! New Zealand, Australia, Europe… Yes, far too lenient!
I wonder do they have more or less murders in those countries than we do here?
What a joke 13 & a half years for murder. What a slap in the face to the victims family
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
she was beautiful! the murdering freak took his kid’s mom away! he should never be released
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄
She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive!
Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 you’re basically saying it’s ok to murder someone for financial reasons
@@mrquick6775 agreed. you should never lie about paternity thus collecting money from them in order to increase your status. People get what they deserve. she was from the gutter and that's where she ended up. oh well, that's what a liar and thief deserves. This show is about detective work, not morals or LACK OF in this situation
@@criticalcrab1125financial? Have you any clue the emotional damage done? Clearly not!
What about the biological dad? With the mum dead and the father in prison, can he raise the child? Maybe he didn’t even know he had a son..🧐
In the US, he would have gotten life or life without parole. I can't believe he only got 13 years and 7 months! He stole the mother of his son, and the daughter of her mother. They will have a life sentence of grief and loss.
The investigation was top notch, butNew Zealand needs to revise their sentencing if they really want to deter killers.
Unless is a rich person
you are kidding right 😂😂
America is corrupted more
Sorry honey not always
I don’t need to give a fcking explanation for watching these things, it’s nobody’s fcking business
@@jessicaculver6198Not always, but often.
I love the detail of their work; I watch these documentaries because I love research, and theirs is SO detailed. This film, also very well put together.
13 years only? That's an insult to her and the family!
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
No different than America
This makes me mad, just like Canada, 14 years???? Unbelievable, the crooks gutted medical, police, vital services, my heart goes out to the family
Wow, this creep would have gotten life without parole in the US. So sad for her family. Wha’s scary is this piece of garbage will be out in a very short amount of time and could harm someone else.
This is New Zealand btw since it doesn't say anywhere. And there's like 1000 Hamilton's around the world.
Accent was the clue-thanks😉
@@saraliburd7752 - The icksint.
@@renejean2523 😂😂😂😂😂
Auckland didn't give it away. So a woman's life is only worth 13 and a half years in prison...absolutely pathetic.
hold up - ONLY 13 years for murder?? i hope someone keeps his son away from this guy
Wow. 13 years. Her life wasn't worth much in New Zealand
If someone is truly guilty of a crime like this it’s Old Yeller time.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
No different than America
the sentence (13 years and 7 months non parole?!) is - way - insufficient
If it was my daughter or sister......i'd service my own justice up cold!
They did a fantastic job. Hard to imagine how a human being can do this to another. How is it that this punishment does not fit the crime. Their laws seriously need to be changed. This is not “justice”.
Hammurabi’s Law is the best law
Let’s talk about injustice in this case!😢
I really appreciate how they go into all the different forensic investigative techniques.
What kind of justice is 13 years and 7 months. That’s horrible..
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
Completely sickening, that this country, sees killing someone, as only a decade in prison. Now he is going to get out and do it again, only this time, he will be a lot smarter on how to get away with it.
No different than America
@@Acts-xu7th it’s very different from American. What are you talking about? Rarely do you get such a light sentence and only if the circumstances call for it- or if you are wealthy and have a well paid lawyer. Which is a disgrace to our justice system! Wealthy people get away with so much in this world and I’m sick of it.
His first parole hearing will be in 2025. Sentences in New Zealand, Australia and the UK are very light compared to in the U.S.
Oh man, why, why, why, are they sooo lenient??? Horrifying.
Would have gotten life without parole in most states automatically.
"Very light" is an understatement!!!!!
Don't forget Canada.
Lenient?? She was a prostitute and a liar, she was not a nice person it wasn’t his child!
She caused this to happen it was a result of bad karma that she was spreading!
Wow….So in 1981-82 I was stabbed from the neck down. The man that did this to me got 35 years, he was out after 15 years. This man here kills this beautiful woman and he’s out in 13 yrs…WHAT! What sense does that make?
I am very sorry that happened to you much love and prayers!! ❤
It makes no sense. No sane person could make sense of such a travesty. I hope you are doing well and encounter nothing but peace and happiness for the rest of your life.
Now that poor child lost both parents due to his fathers actions. So sad.
What could he do to hide all of that evidence?
What a evil bastard!!! He’s definitely a monster
So sorry for the victim and these investigators seriously rocked it!!
All that work by everyone involved, and for that outcome. We can hope he doesn't live long enough to see freedom.
He will be free time enough to kill many times more people…
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
IMO this type of thing is usually done by emotionally immature narcissists. Grown man with child's emotions.
Exactly!
Nope, it was her Karma for lying about paternity. She played a dangerous game then lost!
Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 that is inappropriate your statement. No woman should die because of a man's hands. Ever!
@@mrquick6775 there is no peace and blessings from you. you are sarcastic !
@@katherinekeon7034 I didn’t say she did, did I 🙄? Reading comprehension doesn’t seem to exist anymore..
I said that she received bad karma for her bad actions.. 🤷🏿♂️
Kudos to the Kiwis for their fascinating work. Condolences to the family. RIP Carmen.
And may Callagan rot in hell.
Just another sorry individual pure evil what does it accomplish kid losses both parents so what he did was just pure evil
So she wasn’t evil??
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄
She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive!
Peace and blessings’
Police Works are "Superbly Due Diligent"! Bravo!
This channel and program is awesome. I can’t get enough of it! Since I live in the states I don’t know about these cases and it’s refreshing to see something new since I’ve watched just about everything here in the states. 👏🏼
*Excellent documentary well done*
Why is your font so small
The real tragedy is that he basically wasn't punished.
What a sick man and sick justice system..
So it was a sudden crime of passion but he researched for a year beforehand - got it
Lol seriously
Firstly condolences and prayers to the family and loved ones especially her little boy of Miss Carmen May her soul rest in eternal peace and may true Justice prevail on her behalf
13yrs, 7months...........Man, that's a brutal sentence........................!!
13 years for brutally killing a person, and thus making that poor boy an orphan AND ruining the lives of the other woman & her baby. Disgusting.
13 years and 7 months is so disrespectful to miss Carmen her son and her family
Omg the investigators were on it. A woman was missing and they kept working. They didn’t let it go cold. It’s sad how he got such little time for not only killing but dismembering someone?? May she rest in peace😢
The only thing I learned is: if you want to brutally murder some one - go there. 13 years? Laughable to think that’s justice.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
I am familiar with this case, but I hadn’t seen a documentary on it prior to watching this video. My thoughts and prayers are with Carmen’s family and loved ones. Rest in peace Carmen. 💗
amen.
Thirteen years is not enough time. Such a travesty of justice. RIP Carmen Thomas.
13 YEARS????????????? And the police are "happy" about it? That's the MAX penalty he could have gotten?? Justice? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was very well put together as was the entire gruelling work done to bring justice to victims and families. Thank you for making this available for all the hard work and dedication and heart. I think this would bring some comfort to the grievous families. Maybe after some time as it would take a long time to think about something so horrific and relive the pain and suffering of losing someone, especially in this way. For me it would be comforting knowing that this much work is done. The large team of people working on cases like these are truly honourable individuals. With great admiration and gratefulness, thank you to those who do this mission.
It's only a matter of time before people committing crimes know enough to turn off their cell phones, or leave them somewhere so authorities can't use the data from their cell phones to track their activities, location. Currently, that information often gives investigators invaluable clues.
So will a difference in use.
Mobile & vehicle tracking, CCTV how do criminals think they can get away with it?
@@tymom9313 Not to mention DNA and now...forensic genealogy.
@@tymom9313yup.
@@jeremyseaton4898exactly.
He says that he got the strongest sentence at 13 years 7 months !?
So what would his punishment be for robbing a bank, slapped by a teddy bear?
The cleaning kit brought at the store is telling. Guys never buy cleaning stuff. Beautiful woman obviously she had to do something to support his kid, not enough income. That civil engineer could help her , piece of s$&?!
His kid?? Are you people blind or deaf?? It wasn’t his child that’s what this is all about!
What is wrong with society and people’s ability to NOT understand CAUSE and EFFECT??
He murked her because she told him point blank that the child was not his! 🙄
She was a horrible person! If she wasn’t she’d still be alive..
Peace and blessings’
Another light sentence! The justice system here in the US is far from perfect, but if someone is found guilty of premeditated murder, though there may at times be some exceptions, they’re not getting out. And in some cases they’re put to death.
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄
She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive!
Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 The life she destroyed punished her with the death sentence and that's ok? PLUS we don't even know if that's a true story. She may have been horrible, I'm not saying she was a saint but she was human. I hope you feel being bashed to death with a bat, lthen cut up was a good enough punishment for her mrquick. We'd hate to see a liar walking around free now wouldn't we?
No one deserves this
@@mrquick6775 It would seem he proved to be a far worse human.
@@dwaynemcallister7231 Maybe to you. But it doesn’t SEEM that way to me! ✌️
Peace and blessings’
They should be ashamed of themselves. 13 years 7 mos. I am glad I don’t live there.
If I were the police, detectives, forensic scientists and everyone else involved in this case I’d consider the sentence a huge slap in the face!!! Why even bother when nothing basically happens to the murderer?!
This is the best crime and investigation video I've ever watched
Thank you for sharing this one!
I join many others in saying 13 years 7 months is a pathetic sentence for what he did.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
Scientists and police did amazing work!
Excellent police work. For being an engineer he was pretty sloppy.
A non-parole period of 13 years, 7 months ..?? Isn't that very lenient?SMH
Not for NZ. That's typical.
should never be let out from prison again. 13 years and 7 months is a joke.
To much lineant sentences...here in my countrie Portugal its the same...some monsters,like this,should get life...
1 photo of victim, in-depth investigation
I love that in the intro his face is completely shadowed out.
That guy deserved life in prison without the possibility of parole!!!!! That is disguising. Life for a life NZ!!!!! So sad that the DI actually thought that that was a good sentence.
Only 13 years for a crime that was obviously premeditated. What a shame.
They give more time to drug dealers in America than the Uk, Canada, Australia,New Zealand etc gives guilty murderers. What a slap in the face to the families . Sad
13 years is telling him and every abuser that you too can have a life after you destroy a woman and her family
I am always curious as to what the motive was and if you can give that information when doing these cases.
I suspect he just wanted custody of their child or resented she left him and he couldn't control her anymore.
Gotta wonder...I've been living in the same spot for nigh on 8 years, with partners, guests, small gatherings, pets...and there is literally ZERO blood anywhere. If you pick up blood in any home, at the volume you see here...then shit has gone down that shouldn't have...people clean that up right away from an accident, it's a bio-hazard. If you see it...shit has gone down.
10:14 🎙️🎼 _looovely_ directional spots...
This dude found his calling as a blood-splatter-knower.
True😂😂
That’s awesome. Getting the serial number.
RIP Carmen & Fly High Dear 💔 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Our sentencing is getting as soft as in Australia.
LE, forensics & everyone involved did an awesome job finding & putting everything together with all their combined knowledge to solve her horrific murder.
Very well done✔️✔️✔️
Only 13 years???!...
He should have received the death penalty for everything he did to her!
Plus, using her lil boys baseball bat to kill her & leaving her lil boy without his mommy forever! 💔
Rest Easy Carmen~
I'm so sorry 💔
As others have already pointed out, this is not my idea of justice. A premeditated murder, desecration of a body by the murderer, robbing an innocent child of his mother, and all the rest. The sentence does not reflect an adequate punishment for such a horrendous crime. Not knowing how the NZ laws are structured regarding Capital murder makes me think it is possible to take another person’s life and receive a mild slap on the wrist kind of punishment. Not justice.
seriously - and what year was he sentenced? he could be out by the time his kid is in his early 20s
The hardest thing in my opinion would be to continue living with myself knowing what a thrash I am. That is much harder than prison time. At least for me.
@@Bringiton513 Your reply tells me you are a better person than that killer will ever be. He is not suffering a moment of remorse for his heinous crime; he is remorseful over being caught.
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
13 years and 7 months for murdering, butchering and hiding a corpse. No justice for Carmen's family or her son
he also planned it for monhs
definitely lenient punishment relative to US justice system where you can be behind bars more for non violent crimes.
He was sentenced to LIFE in prison with the possibility of parole in 13 years
If you want to basically get away with murder go to the UK. THEY OFTEN talk about how harsh punishment is in America….when you take a life, you should expect to give up yours. Murdering and dismembering a young women’s body …and the penalty is ONLY 13 years? That’s an insult not only to the victim but to her family and friends as well! In America he would have gotten a life sentence, that’s what he deserved!
They said he got the most severe punishment:
13 years hahahaha
Here’s to hoping trump gets the most severe punishment as well
umm what 13 years for killing a mother and cutting up her body???
investigators put so much effort to pick up culprice and judge destroy their work. 13 years for destroy a beautiful girl? Is that all?!
Officially, it's life for the killing plus six years for the dismemberment, but he is eligible for parole after 13 years and change - which is just around the corner in 2025.
If I would have killed all my ex's ( 3 ) I'd be out by now! If he was convicted in 2010 , he's getting out soon!
I love how the UK detectives are so thorough! Even the scientists and forensic experts are explaining everything in details that I’m over here wishing they’d stop so criminals don’t take notes 😅
I think they are in New Zealand
They're kiwis.
Not UK. New Zealand
Does anybody ever go into one of these shows hoping that just one or two times it isn't the spouse? But hey, there's still 20 minutes to go so....
Great detective work
RIP beautiful Carmine.
No justice for this woman he received a slap on the back 😢
Wrist.
When he gets out (after that slap on the wrist) he'll do it again.
Not if he stays away from prostitutes that lie about child paternity! 🙄
Peace and blessings’
Such a coward man. Killing an innocent lady
Innocent?🙄 she was a horrible person.. making him pay for a child that wasn’t his ..
@@mrquick6775exactly
Rest in Peace, Beautiful Carmen ❤🌹❤️
Although he was in all likelihood completely dishonest as to what sent him into the murderous rage, I hope they followed through with DNA testing of the child. It might be the only good news the son could get out of this horrific story - he IS NOT your father! May the victim RIP and his son not be tormented every day by what happened.
Karen
The son is surely his as the child is living with his mother in a rural area in NZ . In the words of Carmen's mother Teresa Scott who lives in S Africa 'her daughter had come to New Zealand from England for Jack's dad, whom she met in the UK and later separated from. She had a marketing degree and had initially worked at a recruitment agency when she moved to Auckland'
Mother daughter did not share the best of relationships & the last communication was by email some 9 weeks before the murder. Communication between them was not frequent.
What about the life that she destroyed. I have no SIMPathy for someone who lies about paternity, then makes a man pay child support for a child that’s not even his. 🙄
She was a horrible human being. Smdh nobody cares about what men go through and maybe if they did, then she would still be alive!
Peace and blessings’
@@mrquick6775 That sounds like quite a stretch in thinking to me. First, my opinion is in no way based on caring less for men than women - a really big stretch on your part. Second, how can you possibly assume he would be telling the truth about anything? An even bigger stretch is required to think a psychopath/sociopath is capable of offering anything other than lies at the best of times; when facing consequences for their actions as he was at that time, truthfulness is practically unheard of. Third, some of us are capable of deciphering individual cases based on the facts presented and without making gender a consideration. If there was any proof that she had indeed lied to him about paternity, that would have been despicable, but still not justification to do what he did. How anyone could reach the conclusion that she brought this all on by lying about paternity says much more about you than her, and goes beyond simple stretching of the facts. Did you even watch the video? I'm led to believe that you have been wronged, from your perspective, by one or more females in the past. Or are you just aiming to get under the skin of others?
Karen
@@karenbutnotthatkaren5528 ok 👍 👌
@@mrquick6775 I feel my reply to you was overly harsh and apologize for that. You seem genuine and please know that some of us are able to care equally for either gender, depending on the circumstances. Some of the information you listed is skewed however as she didn't destroy any life - the creep only came up with the idea of accusing her of the paternity lie in an attempt to lessen his culpability once in court and facing the charges. It actually could have been a blessing for the son though if it had been true. You offered me love and blessings earlier, and I would like to reciprocate with same. Take care.
Karen
Many people are upset with the amount of time he received and rightfully so
It’s the same here in the USA
People receive more time for manslaughter than 1st degree
It’s sickening and a slap in the face to the families 😢
The wheelie bin forensic guy is a dead ringer for the clumsy worker in the indestructible shoe commercial.
What a joke 13years and 7 month.
Great video! That being said as an American is hilarious to hear adults in a serious tone calling something a “wheely bin” over & over 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I get that’s what it’s called over there… statement still stands
Why never life sentences ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓
Women’s lives aren’t valued.
Seriously, I think some countries have to reconsider sentencing. What kind of citizen will a man make if he's capable of killing his son's mother. Can't change evil.
@@jeanbeans7926t was not HIS child! She was spreading lies and bad karma!
Peace and blessings’
The sentencing there is crazy 13 years and 7 months? I’m amazed at the small amount of time people get for killing people in other countries
None of these murders make any sense whatsoever. WHY? Why do people do these horrendous things to another human and discard them as if they were only trash? It baffles me as to how they think they'll get away with it and then the poor child/children are the ones to suffer. How do they explain this to their children when they are grown, what they did to the other parent? It takes a special kind of wickedness, I think.
03:55 "her trade name was Misty" that dude is funny
Rule #1: Don't search on google from your own computer on how to commit the perfect murder.
Yeah sentencing in the UK is as laughable as overhere.... Must be totally agonizing for her family. There has been no justice in this case at all.