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ALLEGIANT BY VERONICA ROTH | booktalk with XTINEMAY
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2013
- Let's discuss ALLEGIANT IN ALL ITS PAIN AND GLORY, the final book in Veronica Roth's Divergent series. I hope you guys enjoy!
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Tbh it wasn't the actual part of Tris dying that killed me,it was tobias's reaction that broke my fangirl heart💔
Tongdan Sun OMG me too :(
Those are the exact words of my best friend
I was at my friends house
Tongdan Sun exactly what i said too :(
Me too the worst part was i finished the book in class so i was crying while my teacher was giving a lecture
I was sad when she died because Tobias was never happy in his life. When he met Tris, he was happy. When she died, he would most likely never be happy again
I know!!!
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Amy Weston 😭😭
Amy Weston also he went to her funeral And there was no Dauntless cake
Amy Weston stupid authors :’(
I think the water represents the readers tears, there's a lot of tears...
YEEEEEAAAAAAAH
wth^
Haha uhh I kind of cried for 2 hours and a half
I KNOW
I literally got depressed after I found out...so many tears
I read this book on a bus. And then the Tris thing happened. And then I started sobbing so loud that a guy came up to me, put his hand on my shoulder and said " I finished this yesterday. I feel you."
it’s true i was the bus
"A fire that burns that bright is not meant to last."
I always thought that's what the cover, with the water, meant.
same that's what I thought
First time genuinely crying at a book... I really felt for triss...
WHY'D SHE HAVE TO DIE!
***** cheers mate!
First time for me as well
I just finished this book five minutes ago and I'm still crying
I FINISHED IT 7 FREAKING MONTHS AGO AND IM STILL CRYING!!!!!
I was still blubbering 5 hours later...thank god I was home alone otherwise my mum would have called 911 for me
i was grateful that i was on a car alone with my dog waiting for my parents because i was so upset i started screaming instead of crying. i'm so emotionally and mentally unstable right now :/
Me too ha
I didn't even want to read my next book, I was so distort.
I think that the really short chapters with Four remembering things about Tris just made me lose it... ;-;
8bitPuppy I knowww!!!
I just hate that SO many great Characters died, like for exampe Uriah.. Why not just let HIM live at least or Fernando in Insurgent.. Why kill all those great characters, where's the satisfaction in that? It almost felt like every character just randomly died to make the book more and more depressing. It was a great read though and I'm happy that I read it!
answer: ALL AUTHORS ARE VERY VERY EVIL
Because it wouldn't be a representation of war if everyone lived. Besides, more characters survived than I thought like Cara and Peter.
totally agree, but also i don't she did because it was a good option for the book rather than the fact that the book was very slow and she wanetd to add dramatic chapters... and that is what she ended up with...
Forgot about nado
Allegiant in 8 words:
TOBIAS: Tris don't do that
TRIS: *does it*
Who that's Insurgent. Allegiant is only only four words. As Christine put it in her literal book titles video those four words are: Exposition And Traumatizing Murder!
Yyyyyyyyyyyy
agreed
Ahahah yes
After Tris got shot and the chapter ended, I was like "shesnotdeadshesnotdead" but once Four finally saw her body I had to accept it. I cared nothing for the rest of the story, but holistically it was a good ending. SHE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE!
Same! I sat there for five minutes convincing myself she wasn't actually dead and trying to stop crying before reading the next chapter. Once I found out she was actually dead I died. After I finished the whole book, for two weeks everything reminded me of FourTris.
That was a pretty unnecessary death for a hero as...inspiring as Tris.
I completely agree with the two point of views. I felt that the author did a poor job of making the characters personalities different. In Divergent and Insurgent Four was portrayed as this strong mysterious character and that is what I loved about him. And when I was reading Allegient I was so annoyed with Four and I was thinking no, this is not who Four is... So, I felt that the author should have just kept it with Tris's p.o.v.
Same
exactly sometimes I forgot whos pov was
I completely agree because sometimes i would be confused on who POV it was in that chapter because they sound EXACTLY the same!! But I still liked the book, even though it was really slow paced and I cried when Tris and Uriah died...😖
I think the water on the cover for Aligiant is the water to end the fire. From the beggening the divergent cover was a divergent fire and in Alligiant we figured out of our main characters who are divergent dies. Meaning there flame is gone. The water is the idea of the water putting the flame out
"I suppose a fire that burns that bright is not meant to last." :'(
THAT!!!! That is a very sadistic thing to do!! I'm nt sad dat tris dies but I was sad for tobias!!
Ahh, don´t do this to me! ... I´m not crying.. It´s just.. There must be a lot of onion somewhere in my room right now..
Or maybe the water is supposed to be the tears of all the Divergent fandom!!
I just thought the water represented our tears.
What really hit me hard was that Tobias' last words to Tris were "I love you," and "I'll see you soon." Tris was my best friend. I understood everything she did. It was like we were twins or something, the way she explained herself was exactly the way I explain me. I love when you can relate to a character because when you are reading in first person it is hard when you don't agree with that main character. I will always love Tris and yeah, I was a little ticked at Tobias. I mean, while he is talking to Peter and his mother and all that stuff, Tris is dying. I can't say that I would not have gone into that room to save my brother. Even though he's a jerk. I don't think I would hesitate. I love Tris. I love Tobias. When she died. I died. I literally cried my eyeballs out. I had to read her last line over and over again till I finally realized it's real. Tris died. When Uriah died, I cried. The tears were not as bad as when I cried for Tris. When Uriah died, I felt like I lost a friend who was close but not that close. When Tori died, I was still mad at her for what had happened in Insurgent. I didn't cry. But when they found her brother, alive. I cried. So basically I fell in love with Divergent and I am actually Divergent myself. I took the test and got the same results as Tris. Wow, this is a long comment. I am done here.
I feel the exact same way!! I thought nobody else felt like this!! I thought I needed counseling or something and I just died as well when tris and Uriah died and I just can't take it!!!!!!!! P.s I am married to Uriah #justsaying
I felt the same way since someone had spoiled the ending for me so then I started balling there.
What happend "If you die, I die" thing Four?!
Right I am like U HAD ONE JOB FOUR
+pranjal punekar IFKR!!! DUDE ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS STAND BY YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S SIDE! BUT NOOOOO YOU GO LIKE OH TRIS ISN'T RIGHT! WTF!!! I WAS SO ANGRY AT FOUR!!
Right??!!!
YUP.
+Shae-chan YOU HAD ONE JOB FOUR. ONE FREAKING JOB.
this video is basically how i felt about allegiant
i was not happy with the ending. at all. it felt so rushed and just like she wanted it to be done and that's it
I just finished it last night...i wanna know how long does this shock and pain lasts because the book literally destroyed me :(.
It never goes away especially when you start thinking about it. But it to me 4 months to pick up Divergent again so I will pray for you my fellow initiate
Bleh ive moved on, i accepted it now im reading Legend best book everrrrr.
Yess Legend is a good book but the last one is kind of upsetting but still good
Veronica Roth stated that Four falls in love with Christina three years after the epilogue... I hate that
Madie Wood Wasn’t that shown in that weird little epilogue thing she wrote for the people who preordered Carve The Mark? I found it online and it was really pointless and unnecessary.
She actually said this as a joke and when people thought she was serious, she had to come out and deny that they did
It happens in we can be mended
I would have rathered him being alone for the rest of his life than being paired up with anyone randomly.... especially Christina...She had been my favourite character because she was genuine and supportive, but I hated her after....THAT.
@@swastee1415 Let's forget that thing. Find ourselves an alternate ending at Fanfiction.net
In Divergent...
The synopsis looked good,
The cover looked nice,
You opened the book,
And began a new life.
You found a new home,
You met some new friends,
You kept on reading,
Hoping it would never end.
You danced through the pages,
And sang out the words,
And felt all their joy,
And all their pain and hurt.
In Allegiant...
The pages cut your fingers,
The words cut your heart.
Like Veronica had a knife,
And was tearing your soul apart.
You laughed with the characters,
And with them you cried,
You fell in love with them too,
And with them you died.
And when the book reached it's end,
And your broken heart couldn't heal,
You suddenly realized that this is not real...
Sorry I am late to this... And hey not every book can't end with a Disney Princess ending.... But still I agree with you.. The ending was WTF... You should read we can be mended... IT ABOUT TOBIAS AND CHRISTINA AND IM LIKE WTF THEY COME TOGETHER.. I UNDERSTAND WHY TRIS DIED BUT TOBIAS AND CHRISTINA COME TOGETHER WTF... AND FUCK CALEB... He doesnt even grieve for her that much and he still gets the happy ending... I honestly don't like the way Tobias acted though after Tris's death.. He should've died too and got together with Tris in heaven idk... OH AND FUCK DAVID TOO..
I was still recovering from the death when I noticed that the chapters didn't have a name under it anymore... and I lost it again.
Tris' death was ruined for me so that's the only reason why I really expected it and it made it a little less emotional.
S A ME
SAME
+Breanna Parmenter me too, the worst part is my friend said it SO casually like it was normal
SAME, I WAS SO ANNOYED SHE DIDNT APOLOGIZE LIKE THATS A SIN
+GPM DF Cinema Sins
the different povs were annoying but that last chapter when they go ziplining was perfect
When I got to the end of Allegiant, I cried for Tobias. Tris welcomed death and the chance to be with her friends and family again. Even though I cried, looking back I realized I was also really happy about the ending not being the cliché happily ever after that I hate.
+Riley Derbyshire ya, his reaction and all the memories, it was just so heartbreaking even if Im angry at him
My coping method is pretending that it never happened...
Same!
Same :|
I pretend it is just a simulation...
It doesn't work
Trust me I've tried it doesn't work
same
SPOILER: Wave Meaning Theories (of the cover):
!. "I suppose a fire that burns that bright is not meant to last." Allegiant page 492. Water puts fire out. Tris dies.
2.Divergent (flame on cover) Is the beginning, Allegiant concludes the series as water kills fire.
I always thought it was referencing the spot in the airport (can't remember what it's called in the book) where Tris constantly sees it as a "cleansing fountain". And of water just splashing through everything. That theory sounds like it could be that too!
my emotional side hates the ending, like is bawling like a baby, but my logical side actually likes it, like how veronica roth writes it, the action and the suspense, i mean a happily ever after isnt that good, and in a war people die, i still love the book though
I have a feeling that Roth didn't have it all planned out from book 1. It felt halting and off, like Veronica just couldn't figure out a better way to give us the answers. The book was quite unsatisfying overall. But I'll admit that I liked the last few chapters with Tobias. Anyway, the way you described everything in this video is just about how I feel about Allegiant.
I hate it when authors kill the main character and then just go back to being happy and having tea with satan. It's just like, "GIVE US SOME TIME TO MOURN!"
i wasn't disappointed by tris's death, mostly because I liked four more than tris. I had a suspicion that four was going to be the one to die at the end, and I was surprised when it ended up being tris.
Sammeee, tris annoyed me at times and I always thought it was going to be four so when tris died I was like sad because I wanted them to get married and have children in the great new world but then again I was relieved it wasn't four
The water represents our tears.
Just finished the book today. I think I'm kind of over Tris's death now, but I was so sad when it happened. I really wanted Tobias to get over her and get a new girlfriend at the end, 2.5 years later. It was still obvious that their love was real. A new girlfriend would be a good symbol of the fact that life goes on and it is possible to love more than one person for real in a lifetime.
I'm surprised that you didn't talk about the symbolism and meaning of the book, like the similarity between the GD/GP conflict and racism/other discrimination. Another possible analogy to our world is how smart people don't always make smart decisions (e.g. Tris: "But I think that no matter how smart, people usually see what they're already looking for, that's all" (about the Bureau scientists' inability to realise that all problems are not caused by damaged genes) on page 256). They also discuss how costly this decision has become, since a lot of effort, suffering and money is put into these massive experiments which could be absolutely meaningless. It highlights the importance of knowing the truth before you impact people's lives this much. Again, there are many possible analogies to our time and political desicions made in our societies.
The book also discusses the conflict between truth and happiness - both when Tris reflects about how knowing if the GDs were in fact worse people would make her treat them (better not to know?) and when Tobias wants to take the memory serum to avoid living with the pain for the rest of his life.
Another interesting topic was lying governments - how the people without experience naturally supposed that their government was fair and honest, while the people from Chicago realise that they could be lying, because they have experienced lying governments several times before.
I also noted that we never really get to know if the GDs are damaged in some way and create more problems than the GPs. Is that a stance from the author that it isn't relevant? Does it mean that some information can damage our way of viewing people and create unjust discrimination?
He does.. BUT WITH CHRISTINA WTF...
I absolutely loved how this book ended. It concludes the series and it leaves an important, yet sad, message. When Tobias at the end says - Since I was young, I've always known this: life damages us, every one. We can't escape that damage. But now, I'm also learning this: We can be mended. We mend each other. - That is an important message, saying that even though grief is 'there' we have friends and family to support us and life goes on. I'm glad that Tobias doesn't commit suicide, like in some other books that I've read. I'm so proud of how Veronica Roth ended it because it was a brave decision. It makes sense and even though I cried my eyes out every night, when I go to bed, I think that this was perfect! There's a key message in the movie 'Cat Away' and that is - Just keep breathing. That's what Tobias does and it makes me so happy and sad. Thanks for reading!
Finished it last night and i couldn't stop crying. Just how her brother betrayed her and then she goes into the weapons lab instead of her brother is just so sad. And how Tobias is thinking about Tris on his way back without knowing that Tris is dead.
Oh my gosh I am such an utter wreck. It's 3am and I'm still sobbing. The last 50 pages KILLED me. My face actually hurts from crying for the past 3 hours.
VERONICA ROTH WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME!!! :'''''(
I hate how at the end only her friends remember what she did, EVERYONE sees her as a rebel....
I'm still in denial about her death, along with Fred from Harry Potter!
***** Deathly Hallows has been out for 7 years...
Same here. But why did you alleviate my grief by mentioning Fred. Now, I am more sad :(
I CANT TAKE THE FRED DEATH NO TALKING ABOUT FREDDIE
Well, you just spoiled a death from Harry Potter to me. Yeah, I haven't read the books or seen the movie soooo....yeah.
Psychotic Fangirls You REALLY live up to your name.
I think the cover is Tobias' sculpture, or the symbol for Divergence. Since water runs every which way, and to be Divergent is to be limitless. Something I pondered after the devastation of Tris dying haha. =P
I don't think it has a deep meaning. It's simply just the tears of a fangirl.
Omg haha!!
Its not that I wanted Tris to die but you have to give it to Veronica. Life doesn't always end in happily ever after. People die and you have to face that. I was in hysterics at the end of this book but if Tris hadn't died loads more people would have died instead of just one. The ending was creative and unique and thats what I liked about this book
You are right but her death was genuinely totally unnecessary at the point. Shot? That's the lamest way for a huge hero to die.
I didn't cry at the end, I just sat there, rocking, saying "Its okay, Brooklyn, you can wake up now. Its just a terrible, terrible nightmare." BUT NO, IT WASN'T, I WAS ANGRILY TWEETING @VERONICAROTH ALL NIGHT LONG!!
I felt depressed for about 2 weeks. I still cry even then it was a while ago when I read the book. WHO KILLS THE MAIN CHARACTER! I'm seriously thinking about writing to Veronica Roth and expressing my feelings about all the books.
I also think the water represents my tears and when Tobias says " I suppose a fire that burns that bright isn't meant to last." as in the water burning out the fire because she died.
I couldnt stop crying for like the last 30 pages of the book.
I cry everytime I watch this...
I read Allegiant over a year ago and I still can't talk about it without crying
Same, I'm here for you! :'(
Allegiant is the Mockingjay of Divergent!!
I know right. I agree...Both Mockingjay and Allegiant were terrible and a real let down with nothing really...but The Hunger Games, Catching Fire and Divergent and Insurgent were amazing!
Allegiant is WAY more heartbreaking.
I agree dolphingirl...mockingjay really pissed me off and I really don't know why lol and allegiant was a huge sob fest
I think I'm the only one who actually loves Mockingjay...
I bawled my eyes out when Uriah died. Forget Tris. MY BABY URIAH DIED!!!
LOL😂😂😂😂
Omg same I cared more about Uriah than tris
+Igotpharmy -L Mhm. But I still would've liked Tris to die honorably. I mean if you're going to kill off the main character who's been through hell, at least make the death a little more worth it. I mean she survived the death serum and yet she died from two gunshots. Like bro!
i started crying because of Caleb sacrificing himself and everyone agreeing just because he doesn't mean much to them. One shouldn't die because their life doesn't play a big role in your life. I was disgusted by the way it didn't take much of a toll on Tris so I was thankful Tris decided to do it instead of him. I'm probably the only one who thinks this though
Ugh, the first book was great, the second was fine, wasn't great though, the last made me bored out of my mind.. Next time don't kill my fav character
SPOILER......I am so mad at the ending. After it happened I was waiting for it to be somehow wrong. I was flipping through to see if a chapter would have her name above it :( I was so mad she died and then felt so bad for Tobias, he went through so much in his life and he finally had Tris and then she gets taken from him. Ugh still upset, I just finished reading it like 10 minutes ago.
Overall I wanted something different outside the fence. Not at all what I was expecting. I enjoyed the relationship aspect of this book but not the plot. Divergent and Insurgent I LOVED! Allegiant fell short for me.
Always thought the water in the book cover was the statue of the falling water that Evelyn kept
Why would they cut allegiant into 2 movies? I feel like it would be better to do insurgent cause a lot more happened (well there were a lot of different settings). I mean seriously.
They just want the fans to be in tears for 2 movies ;-;
The symbol on the front cover is the water suspended in time described in the epilogue by tobias of his form of defiance against his father, which I thought was the best option for this book. Because the theme of bravery and ultimate defiance was a powerful and recurring theme in the book.
That's what I'm saying! Everyone thought it dealt with the foundation but that didn't seem powerful enough to be the meaning.
Even before i began with the series, I saw it on booktube "Allegiant has a sad ending" etc etc I was not exactly spoiled but I had an apprehension that either the main character or her love interest would die. And then when I picked up allegiant, it was expressed through a dual perspective. And hence, I understood that my fears were true. And alas Tris died. I was not happy with this. There are many books such as TFIOS, A Walk To Remember where one of the main characters died. But they had an illness and secondly the book wasn't from their point of view. Even though Allegiant was told from both POVs our journey with Tris was much longer.
I LOVED the entire series!!!
Is it bad that I was kinda hoping for a "Romeo and Juliet" ending where Tobias would kill himself after seeing Tris's body? (I personally that it would've been more romantic and it made sense considering Tobias's destructive personality and him saying "if you die, I die too")
Was kind of hoping for it too... Ooop
i was literally hoping that he would take the memory serum but 🙄
Am i the only one that want to be spoiled or want to know the ending before reading the book??? I really want to know if the ending is happy or not!! Am i the only?? Pls answer me!!
ExokExomExolover
You're not the only one. I like spoilers.
Let me tell you: So there I was thinking. Er is Tobias going to cheat on Tris with Nita? So as stupid as I am I looked it up and an article read VERONICA ROTH TALKS ABOUT TRIS DEATH I couldn't believe my eyes. So I skipped like a couple of pages and got to the part where she passes away...so yeah I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking "oh its just a dream" but no, it wasn't. I was literally depressed
I think the water symbolizes the amount of tears you'll cry at the end
No words can describe the pain I felt after finishing Allegiant....
I had no spoilers whatsoever for this book and after tris died i was so frustrated i just slammed the book and went outside.
I did because someone told my friend and my friend told me, not knowing I was going to read the book, but I still screamed my head off
Same
I got a spoiler on tris's death, but I wasn't prepared for how it happened or anything and it was horrible
RPGaddict my friend said Tris dies but i didnt believe her because she also said that Percy dies
I was screaming at the book "YOU CAN'T KILL URIAH"
I finish this book 10 min ago, totally agree with you
the weird thing is when tris died i didnt cry, it didnt hit me that hard because i was just thinking shes not dead its going to be like other books when they come back from the dead or they dont actually die. but then when cara told four and christina what happened,i kind of died. Because the relisation that tris actually died, that she was gone actually kicked in and it was like a river coming out of me. And the thing that got me the most was when four was like when she jumped into the net and how he thought she was beautiful. The ending was beautiful to this book and i know that this is a series that i wont ever forget about.
I think what got me the most in the ending wasn't just tris' death but how tobias and tris couldn't be together anymore and the loved each other so much like it tore me apart i wish they died together ir tris "thought" she died but she didn't iDK ITS ALL TOO MUCH
Amar and George? Anyone?
I finished this book in history class and it went like this:
Me:Ahhhhh
Desk partner: what is wrong
Me: nothing..... JUST TRYING NOT TO CRY!!!!!
Desk partner: CRY CRY CRY
Me: (smacking him with the book and going to the bathroom to cry my eyeballs out)
Just finished the book... Laying in my bed ready to cry myself to sleep 😭
I JUST FINISHED IT LAST NIGHT!!!! I had to phone my best friend (who recommended the book to me) for some support cause I couldn't stop crying! :'(
And my mam didn't help by saying '' they're only fictional''!?!?!? I was like WTF?! You haven't read the full trilogy!! X
Why don't I ever cry in books?? Seriously so I just finished allegiant. I didn't cry. What is wrong with me??? Anywho overall I did not like allegiant at all it was so slow paced, Four was annoying, the pov got me confused. And of course they killed my favorite character which was not tris (sorry) but Uriah. I'm so sad he died. I did tear up but I didn't cry!!! Ughh something is wrong with me. Anywho I didn't mind that tris died. I felt like "oh finally something different." Gosh I'm going to get so much hate for this.
OMG same here! Except I was devastated when Tris died but then i also thought "oh something different" as well. And i kept thinking she would wake up in the end but as soon as I saw the epilogue title, "Two and a Half Years Later" I was just done. ):
i didnt cry during this or tfios or mockingjay!! but when they said they screamed uriah's name into the chasm i got super close to crying
Omg I know!!! I didn't cry in any of those books either. I mean I teared up but some of my friends were sobbing!!!
I didn't cry either!
***** IKR!! it took me forever to get through alligeant. overall i just had problems with the story, it didnt end as grand as i wanted it too. Tris and four became unbearable to read so yes when they killed off tris i was like wut? then got over it.
I was spoiled that she was gonna die. I had NO hope through the book which was really sad! I cried through out the book WAITING for the death! It was torture!!! I hated Veronica's decision I hated everything I even REALLY disliked her.
UNTIL I found out why Tris was sacrificing herself for.
I have a brother. He's 20 and I'm almost 22. He's STILL my baby brother. He can betray me like Caleb did and I wouldn't even hesitate giving up my life for him. That's when I knew that Tris was meant to die and that the decision was the right now. I am destroyed and weird as it maybe, the moment my brother came home, I spent the rest of the evening with him... This book only made me evaluate the love I already knew I had for my baby bro... :'(
that is your falt for watching this..... she worned you!!!!
Molly Kauffman What? No, she didn't spoil me lol. I was spoiled else where. No one is blaming anyone here.
I HAD IT SPOILED TOO.
oh my gosh, someone made a really fancy looking list of all the people that died in the trilogy on tumblr... and didn't tag their spoilers.
I finally finished the book, but I was exactly like you; waiting the entiiiiiiire book for her to die. I finished the book about 20 minutes ago, and i'm just sitting here, just mad and emotionally drained.
UGH.
booksandcleverness I've seen that stupid list before I even read Divergent :(
and I am so emotionally drained too! I can't even do life right now. What I've been doing since yesterday is looking at everyone's reaction to Allegiant so I know that I'm not alone with these feels. If you're up for it, Veronica Roth's brother wrote & sang a song for Tris the name is The Mark by Karl Vincent Roth.
booksandcleverness me toooo!!!! but it was actualy because of my curiosity jejej
I was balling my eyes out and my mom was like:
“Come on, its not real.”
And I am like:
“ Are you KIDDING ME? “
I couldn’t even finish the sentence without falling to the ground crying!! I hate it!! You exactly captured what I felt like at the end of the book, and I wish that Tris and Tobias... omg I can’t even... I am seriously so filled with tears right now I can’t...
This trilogy to me was a mix of emotions. I loved Divergent, it was just amazing. The way it was written, and the characters.
Then Insurgent came and I was a bit pissed off at Tris because in Insurgent she like.......she was quite the stubborn girl. She was reckless throughout it but Insurgent was still a good book. Sometimes I got bored through it, I made it through. Then Allegiant, man Allegiant was good it's just that you're left with nothing, like Tris is gone. What can you think or say?? I definitely loved her in this book because she was Tris, she was brave, she definitely grew from Insurgent. Then she died, like really? When she did I actually wanted to know Four's reaction, and he like just was frozen from what I remember. I read this finished this trilogy in March, so I don't remember much. I wasn't actually satisfied, I think I should have been but was not probably because I could not get over Tris's death. A part of me wanted to say she was okay, like someone saved her and was just hiding of something but the other part of me just said to accept it. I wonder how the movies will reenact this whole thing.
i decided o read allegiant on the airplane, and when i got to the end, i was crying hysterically next to 2 strangers. it was so awkward, and i was trying to hide it. now 2 Turkish strangers think im crazy.
I was also weeping. In school. Everyone was staring.
I just couldn't control myself.
I’ve read The Divergent Series as a whole about 7-10 times (I can’t remember, it’s been years 🤣🤣) and I just finished reading the series again, only to spend the last hour drenched in tears (which is a huge improvement tbh).
Every time I read them, I always come back to Christine’s reviews/thoughts about the book because I’m always in the exact same mindset.
Love you Christine 💕💕
For like the first few seconds I thought tris's mom just came back to life then i realized and the tears came looting and I think we all know what happens next
I felt most upset thinking about Four and how his life would be without Tris. That hurt the most. Tris was pretty annoying throughout the book. Isn't it sort of selfish to leave all the people you love behind and know that you've kind of destroyed them? It seemed that she just wanted to do what her parents did, be like them.
I don't know how I will live through the Allegiant movie.
Jasmine Persaud you won't. None if us will.😭😭
Hopefully all the fangirls will be in one auditorium. That way we'll understand each other.
Evelyn Granados yaass. Like they put all the people who have read the book in one showing and all the people who haven't in another so that way it won't be weird when we start crying before anything earth shattering happens😂👍
I read something that they're not killing Tris in the movies. I really hope that's not true.
+Orange Nightcore they aren't changing the ending. Veronica Roth or a producer confirmed this.
I keep on hoping that Tris somehow will come back to life
i think the water on the cover represents the readers tears
I wish I didn't have the ending spilled for me. Ugh. It would've been so AWESOMLEY PAINFUL if I didn't know.
Yeah me too ,, I got the story spoiled for me from instagram by searching for hunger games,, I'm so angry about it... 😭
She warned you about spoilers at the very start of the review.
Brian Sanders Actually the ending was spilled for me on Facebook. I only watched this video after I read the book (:
I was spoiled while reading Insurgent. However, I still sobbed!! Yes, I sobbed when I read that part. The book was very enjoyable but the the ending is terrible!! Veronica didn't wrap up the series too well
OMG! IKR! I was watching the insurgent trailer and I read the comments and there were so many spoilers! But I still cried for the whole night 😭😭
I've just finished the book, and I'm so pissed with Veronica! I mean, she said in an interview that she always knew how the book was gonna end. I mean, she just wrote a book, made us fall in love with the characther and fucking killed that characther!!!!! Four should've died
It’s been like 5 years since I read Allegiant and here I am, rewatching your review and I’m SOBBING AGAIN
I read this back when it first came out in 2013 and omg i was reading it on a bus home from school and i couldnt control my sobs and everyone was just like staring at me while i was sobbing and idk what was more traumatic: tris's death or the way everyone was staring at me. I really hope they don't screw up the movie this year though XD
I honestly didn't feel anything when Tris died. I felt something when Marlene and Tori died. Allegiant was 50% uneventful, compared to the first two books- it's kind of boring.
Also, this book reminds you how young Tris actually is, she acts very childish at times.
I think the cover represents the little thing Tobias gets from his mom when he was in young
My first though? "Really?! REALLY?! Are you kidding me?! AFTER ALL WE'VE BEEN THROUGH!?!?!!! *THIS* is the finale Roth chose to write?!"
I'm not kidding when I say how pissed I was. This book is like opening a a big bag of chips and disappointed to found out it's content is just almost half of its packaging. There were so many possibilities for how this series could have ended but this book is a massive waste of 526 pages! NOTHING happened! Well, except at the end where I was so bloody grateful that it was over!!
Reading this book was depressing, boring, and dull. Pushing myself to finish it was like willfully eating glass. The alternating POV's was enough to make me hate this book alone. I didn't read the books to know what the hell Four thinks! I couldn't give two flying farts in space about his inner monologue! I read the books to know what Tris thinks!
Note to Author: If it ain't broke don't FIX IT! It was almost as though Roth was more in love with Four than Tris was! Especially with all the extra stuff she'd been releasing from Four's POV in the past year. And since I think it's common knowledge by now, but when Tris, a character I once held in high praise, "bit it" I CHEERED about it! And I'm not a sadist, I just was that annoyed/depressed throughout the entire time I spent reading this book!
Personally, I LOVED the first two books, but this book should have NEVER been written! There were SO many different ways for this story to end and Veronica chose to take a left turn into Stupidville where this book ran for Mayor and won! This is a very rare moment when I pray to God that the movies are better than the books; anyone who knows me knows that it's practically sacrilegious for me to root for a movie adaptation to out shine the book.
i’m here bc i finished the series 2 days ago (ikr, how early am i) and i couldn’t, for the love of peter, stop crying. i’ve been in bed, eating once a day, desperately devouring interview videos of veronica and the cast. it took such a strong toll on me and i’m pathetically seeking comfort in the internet.
the death, painful.
tobias’ reaction, painful.
his memory serum scene? devastating.
the zip line epilogue? who needs a heart anyway. i can’t be mended right now. 🤷🏻♀️
i had a feeling tris might die only because she had that fight with Tobias mom in insurgent and his mom said "you're just his gf you are temporary, I am always going to be his mother". That always stuck with me somehow, but I didn't actually think Roth would actually kill her off...and I knew I was right that exact moment when tris was dying, Tobias got his mother back..SMH! it's been like almost a year since I read this book and watching this video again is opening some wounds lol
they're splitting Allegiant into two films oh god
i don't get how are they going to do that
same tbh not enough happened
and cutting it 2 won't make sense unless they cut them when they hit the city
Which is something they do in the first 90 pages, so...
Yes :/
When Tris died, I cried so hard. I was not expecting that at all for some reason. Tbh it wasn't like some tears dropping. I was full out SOBBING.
I felt sad knowing that Tobias needed Tris and how she just left his life - is heartbreaking. I feel very sorry for Tobias. ☹
I was reading the book in the middle of class and I got to the part where Tris died and I was sobbing and everyone was looking at me weirdly and I was laying on the floor and then my friend had to take me out of the room. All my classmates are used to this now because its happened before and they know when to not approach me while im reading.
omg that is exactly what happened to me!!!!
I was so upset when Tris died. Four should not die she told us Tobias would not die.
tobias didn't die smart one....
catherine hinkebein yeah when Tobias spread her ashes i was like, "OH FUCK!"
areeba siddiqui i kept thinking that she is just terribly injured but not dead i don't understand why did Roth had to spoil such perfect series at the very end i hate the ending i was crying and reading till the end that maybe somehow she will come back from ashes but seriously WTF
catherine hinkebein I know i felt like what's the deal in knowing about others life when Tris is dead :(
I'm telling u she didn't kill Tobias cuz she didn't want to be ripped apart by the fangirls
I was incredibly satisfied. I thought it was beautiful and I don't think I would have wanted to end any other way. No book has ever made me cry before (not even TFIOS, though I did love that book), but this one had me in tears, and I was grateful for that. To me, it didn't feel like overwhelming or unnecessary sadness, it felt right. I loved Allegiant. Great booktalk, Christine!
just finished the book a few minutes ago and just all the tears. everywhere. started getting emotional the second Tris revealed the plan, cuz you're right it's immediately clear that it's not actually going to be caleb, and then page 450 til the end i was continuously crying. I was glad Tris and Four were able to have a few last happy moments, but it also hurt because I knew Roth wouldn't be giving us those moments if Tris's fate wasn't sealed.
Couldn't we just get the happy ending? Or that Tris was shot but lived? Like whyyy????
Divergent was so good until the war began and I knew every thing else was going to be sad. Tris was so good I love her but I didn't really like Christian at first .she and the other they gave tris a hard time when she was doing. Better than them in the second stage. Her death was a shock to me because I'm used to the leads staying alive so when I found out I stop reading the series altogether
My opinions on the different POVs are the same. I was tearing up and then smiled when Four asked Zeke how Tris climbed into the zip line sling.
It was really sweet.
I finished this book/series today.... I'm pretty sure I'm just going to sit here and cry for another hour or two. Thank you for this video, it helped me laugh through this terribly sad/stupid ending. That being said lets hope Veronica Roth writes another series with more amazing characters!
I think the wave represents my tears XD
I loved the ending no matter how much it made me cry
Same😭
i really think the wave on the cover is our tears after reading allegiant
I just finished Allegiant about 10 minutes ago and I had to always put down the book once I felt tears in my eyes because I knew they were just going to flood down my face so fast. So I then had to walk around my room and compose myself until I could actually start reading again. I'm still shaking. It's 2am in Australia right now, I can't even deal.