How Should Toyota Remedy The Toyota Tundra Recall?

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  • There are some fiery opinions out there on how Toyota should remedy this Toyota Tundra recall. Today, we go over a list of possibilities. Which one would you consider the best route for Toyota, the Tundra and the customer?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 606

  • @BruceMacDonald-yr9rx
    @BruceMacDonald-yr9rx 3 місяці тому +61

    Put the v8 back in the Tundra with the 10 speed transmission! 😎☃️👍👍

    • @mertz313
      @mertz313 3 місяці тому +1

      All I ever wanted

    • @seinundzeiten
      @seinundzeiten 3 місяці тому

      even the 4.6L V-*8 would be good

  • @scottherman6000
    @scottherman6000 3 місяці тому +26

    I have a 24 and really do like my truck. It out performs the 2nd gen in about everything but I don’t trust it for the long haul like the 2nd gen. I would say extended warranties would for sure go a long way in helping me feel a little better. At the moment I feel like I have a BMW or something. Sell it before the warranty is up…..I’d love a v8 behind the 10sd transmission!

    • @bobwaldrop4948
      @bobwaldrop4948 3 місяці тому +1

      Same here… build date 9/23 so I’m worried.

    • @marcrainville2731
      @marcrainville2731 3 місяці тому

      Same here, my build date is 11/23 and I’m worried too . I really hope they give us extended warranties !

    • @glow4417
      @glow4417 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, overall quality of the new tundra is not good. Its not just about the engine failture, its the overall quality of the truck throughout.

    • @jerrykite9318
      @jerrykite9318 3 місяці тому +1

      I have a 2022 1794 iForce Max that I got in September of 2022, on the cusp of being a 2023. This was my 4th Tundra, had a 2002, 2008 and a 2015 1794 Supercharged and I do not miss my 2015,, which was a great truck but my 2022 is superior in many ways. I live in Surprise AZ and haul a UTV and trailer many times a year north to Utah and Surprise being at 1296 feet above sea level and Flagstaff being at 7000 feet it is mostly uphill for 145 miles. My 2015 pulled the trailer and UTV well but trying to maintain the speed limit of 75MPH uphill it had to get in the over 4000 RPM many times and was screaming when it did so, my 2022 does this with out having to get in the upper RPM range to do the same, mainly around 2300, much quitter and comfortable not to mention almost twice the MPG than my 2015. When I purchased my 2022 I also included an extended warrantee for around $2000.00 minding that caution on buying a new model year. The technology in my 2022 is also most welcome from my 2015, safer in many ways and features that make driving it a real pleasure.
      Sure they, Toyota are having issues, same as the other big three but I would rather have issues with Toyota than any of them as I feel confident Toyota will resolve this as they have in the past. The issue with metal shavings in the pan is a human issue, someone let their responsibility for inspections down.

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 3 місяці тому

      Japan has always made great cars. Their trucks are nothing special. Seriously, they aren't. I have benzes, Beemers, all manner of domestics and Japanese.....unless you are buying a car, not a truck......there is no benefit going with Toyota or anyone else.

  • @johnseewald1530
    @johnseewald1530 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a 2022 Tundra Hybrid 1794. It has had both waste gates on the turbos fail at different times. Those repairs were beyond frustrating. Three weeks each time, as it is a cab off fix. 😢Now this. I have added a leer camper, winch, lift,lighting etc. costing thousands of dollars making this truck into an overlanding rig. At this point I’m screwed. This truck isn’t part of the recall because as I understand it,it isn’t a safety recall issue because the hybrid part of the system can safely get you off the road. But it is the same 3.5 twin turbo v6 that is in the other Tundras. As a lifelong Toyota buyer I’m angry and bitterly disappointed. Now every time I drive the truck, I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop. When you go way out into the middle of nowhere pulling an offroad camper and your engine fails. Who the hell is going to tow you out? It is now officially the single worst financial mistake I have made on such a large purchase. The only thing I want Toyota to do at this point is offer Full lifetime drivetrain warranty,with towing paid for by Toyota and not my insurance,wherever the truck might be when it fails.

  • @theedmondsept
    @theedmondsept 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a 2018 and wished that Toyota had the option of the V8 for this new Gen 3 Tundra, I absolutely love my V8 sounds and fun factor.

  • @GlenGGonsalves
    @GlenGGonsalves 3 місяці тому +2

    I went with a 2024 4 runner…
    It’s a dinosaur but I’m hoping for the reliability we know and enjoy.

    • @TundraDude34
      @TundraDude34  3 місяці тому

      The 4.0 V6 is a forever engine 🙌🏼

  • @chrisherbert4454
    @chrisherbert4454 3 місяці тому +2

    One word.... Buyback regardless of how they make this repair I have no faith in my tundra. The only thing that would be a distant 2nd longblock, 200k bumper to bumper warranty for 10 year minimum, and a check for 10% of MSRP as clearly we are the beta testers and we should be paid for this mess!

  • @wfthrock
    @wfthrock 3 місяці тому

    I think the Buy-Back option is the BEST option for Toyota to issue. Yes it will hurt the company, but customer satisfaction and “perception” of a company who cares is way more important now. Tundra as a truck will really be hurt.

  • @williamsmiley16
    @williamsmiley16 3 місяці тому +1

    Well i traded in a 2019 tundra for a 23 tundra limited trd off. 100% satisfied with the 23 over the 19. 0 issues with mine until i watch videos like this lol

  • @Robert-2
    @Robert-2 3 місяці тому

    If anyone remembers the Tacoma Frame rot issue. They replaced the frame or gave you a 1.5x KBB retail value. So I’m hopeful that they will make this right.

  • @philipeli1192
    @philipeli1192 3 місяці тому

    I am a 67 year old owner of many makes and models. Opening these up for short block is not the answer in a new vehicle,once any engines cherry is busted its never the same.I have seen human error first hand.

  • @Gestapo943
    @Gestapo943 3 місяці тому +4

    if it turns out to be a result of the ladder design cradle supporting the bearings, it will not be an easy fix

  • @jimbrown4640
    @jimbrown4640 3 місяці тому +5

    Easy fix, extend the engine warrantee out to 150,000 miles. If you have an engine problem before 150,000 miles, it's covered. If not, you are probably free from engine damage. Kia did this for my 2012 Sportage. I have not had an engine problem yet with 97,000 miles and still am covered under warrantee.

    • @keshmo12
      @keshmo12 3 місяці тому +1

      Our optima engine failed at 110k miles and it took like 12 days for free engine replacement from the time we dropped it off. We were very happy but I wouldn't buy a vehicle with major engine problems.

    • @jimbrown4640
      @jimbrown4640 3 місяці тому +1

      @@keshmo12 Twelve days and you get a new engine? And you are not happy about that?

    • @keshmo12
      @keshmo12 3 місяці тому

      @@jimbrown4640 "we were very happy"

    • @fjorge4014
      @fjorge4014 3 місяці тому

      They need to lifetime warranty of the vehicle

  • @BillTrzcinski
    @BillTrzcinski 3 місяці тому +2

    I dumped my 22 SR5, TRD Off Road with 12,900 miles on June 5th. Got a quote from one of the nation wide online buyers and took an $11k hit to be done with it. There is nothing Toyota could do to remedy the situation short of a full buy back and I can't see that happening. I'm out and glad to be out! I just decided I'm not dealing with it

    • @BillTrzcinski
      @BillTrzcinski 3 місяці тому

      Time to cut bait, nobody is going to want a 3rd gen going forward.

  • @Hellvoisin
    @Hellvoisin 3 місяці тому +1

    The real issue, bad motor design. That alloy bearing craddle is at fault. Ain't no bs debris..

  • @mariaapplegarth4231
    @mariaapplegarth4231 3 місяці тому

    I had a 2011 and a 2020 Tundra, both with the 5.7 V8. They were great vehicles, BUT, my 2022 Capstone with the hybrid is such a fabulous ride, I can't imagine going back to the 2nd generation Tundra. Most my driving is with our 7500 pound Airstream trailer in tow. The 583 pounds of torque is light years ahead of the 401 pounds torque of the 5.7. That along with the 10-speed transmission is such a great improvement, that I could never go back to a 2nd generation Tundra or the V8 in a 3rd generation truck unless they upgraded the V8 significantly. I have 25,000 miles without issue on my Capstone. If the engine fails, I hope Toyota will give me a whole new engine and I'll go on my way enjoying my Capstone. I am securing road-side insurance for both my truck and Airstream in case I need it. While in tow mode, the gas engine never turns off. If the engine failed while in tow mode, I wonder if the electric motor would work without the gas engine.

  • @tombox2759
    @tombox2759 3 місяці тому

    Cure needs to be not a full engine replacement but a brand new 2024 Tundra. A new engine put in by a third party will surely lose quality as should have existed directly off a new assembly line.

  • @nkyryry
    @nkyryry 3 місяці тому +100

    They killed this generation. The resale value has tanked. Dealers won’t take them on trade in. And now the previous gen has increased in price. There’s nothing they can do to sell more. But they can take care of the people who bought them. Lifetime powertrain warranty. That’s about it.

    • @RSHart-d5k
      @RSHart-d5k 3 місяці тому +1

      Temporary

    • @G7130
      @G7130 3 місяці тому +3

      Dealers won’t take any vehicle that has an active recall with no fix.

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 3 місяці тому +1

      Remedy? New truck in exchange…fix the the take backs and sell them at half price or less with full disclosure.

    • @michaelmartinez9835
      @michaelmartinez9835 3 місяці тому

      Bro what do you expect if you bought it in the last 2 years depreciation in the first two years is the most in all vehicles across the board

    • @jasonsantelli6588
      @jasonsantelli6588 3 місяці тому

      That they did

  • @JRRR29-k1b
    @JRRR29-k1b 3 місяці тому +34

    I’m imagining an extended warranty or Toyota could likely face a class action lawsuit

    • @dmitripetrov5536
      @dmitripetrov5536 3 місяці тому

      Like 6th gen Camry burning oil at 60k mills class action.

  • @williamholsinger236
    @williamholsinger236 3 місяці тому +40

    V8 ten speed and bring back the trd supercharger and include it just because that’s more reliable at this point

    • @Matt-tf1wz
      @Matt-tf1wz 3 місяці тому +1

      You can still by the magnusson supercharger for the tundra. And Actually Magnusson just came out with there new gen for the tundra. Lol its alot of fun

    • @kurtbeck5809
      @kurtbeck5809 3 місяці тому

      Why didn't they offer a V8 option at least for the short term?

  • @Joe-cu4hi
    @Joe-cu4hi 3 місяці тому +71

    Bring back the 5.7L V8 and drop the price $15,000 to $20,000

    • @EdwardEimiller
      @EdwardEimiller 3 місяці тому

      😂

    • @atg1338
      @atg1338 3 місяці тому +1

      Ignorance

    • @seinundzeiten
      @seinundzeiten 3 місяці тому +1

      good idea

    • @bsg1372
      @bsg1372 3 місяці тому +1

      If we are dreaming why not drop the price by $30,000?

    • @drm197728
      @drm197728 3 місяці тому

      In my country we have toyota hilux diesel. I want my 2022 tundra with diesel engine in it 👍

  • @frankmoreno730
    @frankmoreno730 3 місяці тому +19

    Bump in the road? Seized engines, shotty transmissions, workmanship defects and bad turbos. This is a train wreck.

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому +3

      The transmissions are built by the same company that made the older 6 speed, Aisin. The 10 speed is way smoother than the out going model. What makes you say the transmission is "shotty"? Do you have experience with it?

    • @christopherclark4774
      @christopherclark4774 3 місяці тому

      More like Mt. Fuji in the middle of a single lane road. Lol!

  • @danoconnell5592
    @danoconnell5592 3 місяці тому +25

    I purchased a 23 in September before the recall. My truck was manufactured in August of 23 so i didn't receive a recall notice but the dealer gave me a free no cost Lifetime unlimited mileage full powertrain warranty. Toyota needs to make this right and give every tundra owner a Lifetime unlimited mileage warranty

    • @fjorge4014
      @fjorge4014 3 місяці тому +3

      Wow!!!!! Thats exactly what’s needs to happen!!

    • @Lance-b2l
      @Lance-b2l 3 місяці тому +2

      So is this the carrot? No they do not lose you as a customer.

    • @danoconnell5592
      @danoconnell5592 3 місяці тому

      @@Lance-b2l maybe but this was 9 months before the recall. I was doing a lot of haggling and wanted 10 thousand off they agreed to 8 thousand and a Lifetime Powertrain Warranty

  • @dein45d
    @dein45d 3 місяці тому +18

    You might see a reliable tundra again but how many people will leave the brand after three years of junk and never come back.

  • @drivenoutdoors_208
    @drivenoutdoors_208 3 місяці тому +31

    My local Toyota dealership has done 6 short block replacement and 5 have already come back for the same issue. This was in the past 6 months.
    Bottom line is, I love Toyota but they really screwed up this time. This is what happens when we let the EPA have so much control. We all know Toyota would’ve refined the 5.7 if they were able to do so and meet all the new emission regulations.

    • @ij2750
      @ij2750 3 місяці тому +7

      I keep saying the auto manufactures need to stick together and stand up to the EPA.

    • @drivenoutdoors_208
      @drivenoutdoors_208 3 місяці тому +2

      @@rockcreekrockcreek6644 they also manufacturer a lot more trucks than Toyota… it’s all numbers Ford and Chevy can afford to take these hits. Ram obviously couldn’t anymore hence why they got rid of the hemi. No excuses just facts.

    • @Karmazov
      @Karmazov 3 місяці тому

      ​@@rockcreekrockcreek6644 They are producing those for now but I can guarantee you that in the near future they will be forced to get rid of those by the EPA.

    • @josevega23
      @josevega23 3 місяці тому

      @@rockcreekrockcreek6644How about dodge they really killed v8 😂😂😂By 2035 cars manufacturers can’t sell new gas vehicles in California ,The government is going to force all cars manufacturers to go electric or plug in hybrid by 2035,I don’t like the idea but that’s the way the future is going to be,Just buy v8 while you can.

  • @marcuso3301
    @marcuso3301 3 місяці тому +15

    It's a tough call. I would say, Full engine replacement or buy back simply because of the loss in value.

  • @mr.monkei
    @mr.monkei 3 місяці тому +13

    Lots of people in the comments dont seem to understand what a "SAFETY" recall is. There will be no extended warranty. Toyota will have to either replace the engines. The recall literally states that affected Tundras is a possible crash risk. Gm, ford, kia, BMW, VW all had to replace engines in the past. Toyota can do the same

  • @josephlondon5018
    @josephlondon5018 3 місяці тому +11

    Toyota MUST offer FULL ENGINE REPLACEMENT as the remedy for the recall.
    Short block replacement does not address any debris that may have worked their way into the upper parts of the engine,
    Also what about all the other bearings in the engine that may have been exposed to the
    " manufacturing debris ".

  • @benhu509
    @benhu509 3 місяці тому +55

    It's funny how Toyota did the one thing that pissed off the majority of their core customers, that is now blowing in their faces.

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому +2

      True. But like it or not this new Gen is getting more people into a Toyota truck then before

    • @BillTrzcinski
      @BillTrzcinski 3 місяці тому

      ​@@stevieray1828was getting them in. After this debacle sales will plummet!

    • @cheriebrewster7040
      @cheriebrewster7040 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@stevieray1828I have a hard time believing that. Jmo.

    • @glow4417
      @glow4417 3 місяці тому +3

      @@stevieray1828 not really, the new Tundra has a bad rep. And even though sales may be solid, there are a lot of concerned customers out there who purchased one and are hearing about the recall and bad experiences of owners. It's going to take a lot of reliable years for the Tundra to recoup its rep after this all over. Truck owners are more fickle, serious, than regular car owners.

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому +2

      @@glow4417 the Internet has a lot to do with it. The reality is the failure rate is still less than 1% and Toyota had initiated a recall that will most likely cost billions of dollars, and if they fix the problem it will show everybody that they care about quality and reliability. Everybody is freaking out, they need to get educated and CHILL

  • @duncanpage1556
    @duncanpage1556 3 місяці тому +13

    There is only one way to fix the recall and 2024 will need it also! And that is to replace the whole motor. But that sucks because you have to lift the body off the frame which means it won't be like factory ! shit will get missed guaranteed!!!

  • @rmb5858
    @rmb5858 3 місяці тому +9

    Anything short of a crate engine is not a remedy.

  • @WyLEE08
    @WyLEE08 3 місяці тому +72

    Buy back my 22’ with 11,750 miles, first motor oil & filter change at 950 miles and then changed another 3X’s, never driven in the winter no exposure to salt, fresh rear differential oil. FULL DISCLOSURE: it has door wind noise, there’s a risk of a gas tank fire no remedy yet, it may still move when in neutral, it’s plagued with recalls, is has NO tow hooks AND bonus the engine has milling debris trapped in the engine bearings! $62K and it all yours Toyota.

    • @waynehenson1094
      @waynehenson1094 3 місяці тому +11

      Still driving my 07 5.7 Tundra since new. I'll wait.

    • @mysticjedi6730
      @mysticjedi6730 3 місяці тому +4

      When you take off oil filter cut it open and examine for shavings..
      Consider oil filter magnets.. I would also go with a very high end oil filter such as amsoil..
      Dude opening my rear diff I found a lot of break in metal on the magnet.. its kind of normal for bearing to deal with this..
      Document all of this with pictures and receipts...
      Also change oil 5000 km for now... or maybe several thousand km max..
      I would go with amsoil signature series for now and keep your receipts...
      I would also up oil viscosity from 0w20 to 5w30..

    • @MrNismopro
      @MrNismopro 3 місяці тому

      From Toyota: “Heck no! We know how much we built it for!”

    • @ksorsomeplace
      @ksorsomeplace 3 місяці тому +4

      Why'd you buy it? Sounds like it was missing items important to you.

    • @chrisjustice3999
      @chrisjustice3999 3 місяці тому +7

      Also I just don’t think it’s “debris” in the block milling. I think it’s a tolerance issue. The debris thing is a good cop out in my opinion.

  • @Living-The-Dream
    @Living-The-Dream 3 місяці тому +17

    Why I kept my 2021 Pro……don’t fix what ain’t broke! and then charge thousands more for it. Amazing

    • @scottmendoza8989
      @scottmendoza8989 3 місяці тому +3

      Smart man

    • @Living-The-Dream
      @Living-The-Dream 3 місяці тому +1

      @@scottmendoza8989 Thanks Scott…….don’t know how smart, but for sure, very happy 👍

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому +1

      Why wouldn't you keep a new truck?

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 3 місяці тому

      @@stevieray1828well for starters if the manufacturer doesn’t have a fix it plan for the recall issue then why would you keep it? That’s the question😒

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому

      @@mikehughes8023 he said this is why he kept his 21 Pro....I am saying why wouldn't anybody keep a new truck? Just sounds silly to always trade in for the newest model every couple years

  • @lvsqcsl
    @lvsqcsl 3 місяці тому +23

    They should replace the complete engine in EVERY '22, '23, and '24 Tundra. Period. GREAT VIDEO!

  • @kensnyder2340
    @kensnyder2340 3 місяці тому +19

    They still have the V8 in the LC500 & RCF. The 5 liter V8 puts out good HP. A 10 speed trans, 3.50 gears in the Tundra would be a great combination, IMO. It would pair well with the new designed truck , too. 😄

    • @cloudypac
      @cloudypac 3 місяці тому

      Incorrect, the LC500 have the TT V6 since 2021

    • @kensnyder2340
      @kensnyder2340 3 місяці тому

      @@cloudypac , I did not realize that.

    • @kurtbeck5809
      @kurtbeck5809 3 місяці тому

      ​@@cloudypacV8 in LC500, RCF, and IS500

    • @cloudypac
      @cloudypac 3 місяці тому

      @@kurtbeck5809 Your are correct, Im sorry @kensnyder2340 I have mixed the LC500 with LC300

  • @rhr1616
    @rhr1616 3 місяці тому +6

    It's a safety issue - if I'm doing 70+ mph on the highway and the engine decides to throw a piston - now what? Hopefully I'm not in the passing lane and there is room and time to pull off. Purchase back or trade in my '22 reimbursed at my original cost.

  • @michaelstewart9366
    @michaelstewart9366 3 місяці тому +7

    You do not I repeat do not want the techs at dealerships replacing these engines.

  • @Weatherby406
    @Weatherby406 3 місяці тому +52

    200k mile powertrain warranty

    • @unclebilly1353
      @unclebilly1353 3 місяці тому +4

      Thats crap! I exect to get a least 500 thousand on all my toyotas. It's not a Dodge Chrysler product for gods sake. People buy toyotas because of their reliability.

    • @Weatherby406
      @Weatherby406 3 місяці тому +1

      @@unclebilly1353most new semi engines don’t make 500k without a rebuild. Especially todays trucks. Only a small percent of trucks even make 200k. Less than 3% of Toyotas on the road have over 200k..

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Weatherby406🤯 I guess perception is reality

    • @unclebilly1353
      @unclebilly1353 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Weatherby406 i must be one of those 3% of the toyota owners . Lucky me

    • @gunsmokezz
      @gunsmokezz 3 місяці тому +1

      Ya techs will say , can not replicate problem or issue is normal

  • @NATOHA-64
    @NATOHA-64 3 місяці тому +2

    Verry simple fix put back the V8 in it. Why mess with what was working a lot better and a lot cheaper and put back the Tacoma's V6 too sad days for us Tacoma and Tundra lovers

  • @VroodenTheGreat
    @VroodenTheGreat 3 місяці тому +6

    The FIRST thing they have to do is admit what the problem ACTUALLY is. Stop making them. This isn't rocket science.
    EDIT: Also, stop making them in Mexico for $7 an hour and selling them for 70 grand.

    • @craigmoody3812
      @craigmoody3812 3 місяці тому +3

      Where is this reference to Mexico coming from? Tundras are made in the US

    • @VroodenTheGreat
      @VroodenTheGreat 3 місяці тому

      @@craigmoody3812 As soon as I pressed send, I knew I messed that up. I was waiting for someone to call me on it. I was thinking of the Tacos and they aren't 70k yet, but give it a year...

  • @theofficialpeterkim
    @theofficialpeterkim 3 місяці тому +5

    Lifetime warranty on those engines. Just stand by them. My ideal, which will never happen, drop off a Lexus 5.0 V8 engine for the TTV6.

  • @willytrouble88
    @willytrouble88 3 місяці тому +7

    I think they’re going to suspend production, buy back what has been sold, and redesign the power train. Story for context….back in the 1980’s, my family owned a Yamaha dealership. Yamaha discovered a defect in the engine design of the SRX440 snowmobile. They issued a buy back, and sent some techs to our dealership to load up the ones we had on the showroom floor. Before loading them, they literally took a sledge hammer to the engines and destroyed them. Unfortunately, the SRX440 never came back into production. It morphed into the Vmax 535 about 2 years later. So, I vote they will buy back these trucks and put them through the chipper.

    • @doctordetroit4339
      @doctordetroit4339 3 місяці тому

      Nope.....these trucks are not snowmobiles. Multiple that price by about 10x.

    • @willytrouble88
      @willytrouble88 3 місяці тому

      @@doctordetroit4339that’s true. However, not inconceivable that Toyota would offer a substantial credit on what’s been sold, recall all unsold vehicles, and replace all of the engines and power trains. Likely will need to suspend production for a year or more in order to pull that off. A full engine replacement for current customers isn’t feasible. Who would do this work? The dealers can’t handle this.

  • @bobwaldrop4948
    @bobwaldrop4948 3 місяці тому +5

    Full Engine. Replacing the block I’m not sure if Toyota is realizing the downstream affect. OTHER breaks will occur caused by this block replacement and it could end up cost not only their reputation but even more $$$ than just simply replacing the engine.

  • @maccooley3451
    @maccooley3451 3 місяці тому +7

    buy them back. pay now or pay by killing the reputation of the truck…possibly the brand. short block is not a fix for debris that might be throughout the entire engine. it’s not just the engine that has problems.

    • @andrewweaver4801
      @andrewweaver4801 3 місяці тому

      What about all the extras people have added to their trucks? They will never account for that.

  • @teamkrugg446
    @teamkrugg446 3 місяці тому +5

    Full engine replacement with 120k warranty.
    Bring back the V8 but fix the fuel economy issue.

  • @christinoumel2291
    @christinoumel2291 3 місяці тому +6

    Nothing short of full engine replacement. Then bring back a normally aspirated V-8;as an option in future models

  • @jasonsantelli6588
    @jasonsantelli6588 3 місяці тому +2

    This will doom the Tundra as a whole, you think it was rarely updated before, now, just wait…

  • @Jeff-ps4ks
    @Jeff-ps4ks 3 місяці тому +2

    I have a 2019 TRD Pro…….Would buy a new one with the V8… never gonna buy the V6. Sounds like a fart and is a POS

  • @michaelstewart9366
    @michaelstewart9366 3 місяці тому +4

    I want the v8. I’m about to purchase a Chevy or GMC bc they have a v8. Wish the tundra was a v8.

  • @pjrodriguez9755
    @pjrodriguez9755 3 місяці тому +29

    They should just give us all 21 pros

    • @TundraDude34
      @TundraDude34  3 місяці тому +4

      Haha when you get another 2021, and tell me you want to trade it in a few years, im not letting you 🤣

    • @Cbman375
      @Cbman375 3 місяці тому

      I second that plus the diff on list price.

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 3 місяці тому

      I still don’t want it.

  • @abw121
    @abw121 3 місяці тому +17

    Toyota is just not listening to consumers about the V8? It’s a truck give me what I want!

    • @andrewboettcher9853
      @andrewboettcher9853 3 місяці тому

      It’s all part of the climate change hoax. No more V8’s in a 1/2 ton trucks.

  • @chancecaskey4255
    @chancecaskey4255 3 місяці тому +4

    They need to bring them all in for oil analysis. Drop the pans. Inspect the pickup screen. Scope the motors where they're prone to failure. If an issue is found, full motor replacement. Extend warranties to full coverage as long as you own your vehicle and refund your warranty if you bought one. And give free services for as long as you own it. That's gear oil, engine oil, and trans services. As well as coolant replacement. Compensate people who have paid out of pocket based on their tundra failing. As far as bringing back the V8. I say its never gonna happen until they can get a v8 within current emission standards. Let all just agree that we'd all rather have the Hilux lol.

    • @RichardZ06
      @RichardZ06 3 місяці тому

      yes i got thetoyota extened warrenty they can pay me back I agree Idid change oil at 900 miles and 2500 just to be on safe side

  • @johnshaft5613
    @johnshaft5613 3 місяці тому +3

    I think everyone knows what Toyota "should" do. At a bare minimum, completely new engines (long blocks) in every affected vehicle. I'm just afraid there are so many vehicles involved that it would be too much of a financial blow to them to do so. They might eventually come to the conclusion that they have to take the hit and do the right thing to remain viable as a company. But Toyota will only be dragged to that point, kicking and screaming.

  • @twisterbret
    @twisterbret 3 місяці тому +18

    I don't believe the debris issue. Full engines redesigned replacement and extended warranty. I'm a Honda guy and this is my first Toyota. They should make it right.

    • @Annihilator105
      @Annihilator105 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed it’s a design issue. The main bearings have too much play, and are not being properly lubricated with oil. Check out the short blocks they pulled from the affected trucks, the bearings are not only scored but they are smoked. Main bearing is black, that indicates lack of oiling.

    • @trevorharley4475
      @trevorharley4475 3 місяці тому +2

      Redesign is what will correct the issue because this is a design flaw. Unfortunately a full redesign takes way too much time and money. They'll never do it. Engine replacement is pointless. It's like swapping out a bad part for the same bad part. I've worked in the auto industry for 18 years and I can tell you they will do just enough to get out of legal/government trouble. Remember, it's not illegal too make a bad product, just a bad idea.

  • @Truth2240
    @Truth2240 3 місяці тому +2

    Dont engine replacements involve taking the bodies off? I would push for full buyback.

  • @JayMak1963
    @JayMak1963 3 місяці тому +4

    no mater what the dealer tech will get screwed ! the frame recalls were great. the short block pays about 26 to 30 hours. has anyone seen the amount of disassembly that is done just to get engine out? then tear down? short block should pay no less than 40 hours

  • @dang5553
    @dang5553 3 місяці тому +2

    I see you brought the dodge thing that’s the next pos. Btw dodge is a sinking with Tim Kuniskis if not dead

  • @DFWrancher
    @DFWrancher 3 місяці тому +1

    In my local dfw market there are tons of used 22 and up ones now. Everybody has dumped them. The local prosper Toyota has gen 2 models already listed at higher prices than the used gen 3 models. Can you fathom being one of the idiots that paid the markup price on a gen 3???😂😂😂 you’ve lost 40% value or more. Hell carmax near me has limited 23 models in 49k range.

  • @DaneGellar
    @DaneGellar 3 місяці тому +3

    Totally agree with you
    Toyota should’ve had the v8 option and I would’ve traded my 2018
    I agree with the other comments v8
    Oh and by the way it’s not the govt regulations
    Toyota chose to stop the v8 because if I recall it’s 40mpg across your fleet to keep selling
    Doesn’t mean kill the v8 means add back something like the Prius etc
    I hope Toyota is listening bring back the v8 and double cab legroom and turning radius !!
    All we ever wanted was new tech makes me so sad 😢

  • @rlillard72
    @rlillard72 3 місяці тому +7

    V8 with turbo...gen2 v8 was bulletproof.

    • @AlexKosanovich
      @AlexKosanovich 3 місяці тому +4

      Screw The Turbo !

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 3 місяці тому +2

      You don’t turbo a naturally aspirated motor on a truck.

  • @ksorsomeplace
    @ksorsomeplace 3 місяці тому +3

    Question: Can you test the oil/oil filter to see if there is evidence of an engine that likely has the issue? Would that not also add piece of mind?

  • @Kdavis8377
    @Kdavis8377 3 місяці тому +2

    Toyotas 4.6 bullet proof engine of today had 200,000 motor recalls in 2010. They’ll get it right. I’m more concerned about the cheap fit and finishes than I am motor issues in the future. They need to give 100,000 mile warranties on the motors and anything associated with the oil to save face.

  • @nickiannotti5632
    @nickiannotti5632 3 місяці тому +1

    Or bring back the v8 with the same hybrid system so then it can meet epa regulations better. And have more power!

  • @joelcade1569
    @joelcade1569 3 місяці тому +4

    they can remedy it by giving all 22-24 tundra owners a free V8 engine up-fit under warranty. Nothing less will do.

    • @seinundzeiten
      @seinundzeiten 3 місяці тому

      will the old V8 engines fit in the new body design of the 2024 Tundra? If it fits, it might be a good idea

    • @joelcade1569
      @joelcade1569 3 місяці тому

      @@seinundzeiten IDK of any serious engineering solution like that (yet). I do remember hearing the Gen 3 truck frame rails are slightly narrower than Gen 2 truck. But BMW make a small V8 that fit in the M3, and there is the Supra BMW collaboration. ... also I can't se that lexus V8 being too much larger.....Even though I suggest it and wish it could happen, Toyota will burn itself to the ground before they ever put a v8 back in the tundra. Hopefully they reign it in but it looks bad for now. I can't imagine what this will cost them, plus toyota japan just got caught forging emission data....quite the downward spiral......

  • @redroosterranches
    @redroosterranches 3 місяці тому +5

    I kinda like the idea of just a straight swap on the engine. It does seem to be the easiest. I know everybody would love to have the V8 back, but I really don’t honestly see that happening. The engine itself at this V6 comes from the Lexus LS 500 originally is a very reliable engine. It’s just unfortunate that this problem has come up.

    • @scottmendoza8989
      @scottmendoza8989 3 місяці тому

      No you're wrong about the LS they still have problems to this day with that motor

    • @redroosterranches
      @redroosterranches 3 місяці тому

      @@scottmendoza8989 google search shows only recall on that model year is air bags issue and a Reddit consumer reliability shows satisfied owners and if anyone is going to shit post its Reddit.

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@scottmendoza8989let's see how Toyota handles the manufacturing issue before making judgements on the motor. The engine performance is great, and hopefully they get it right.... If they don't and we get FACTUAL information on the DESIGN failing, then that sucks. Until then, we need to look at the facts and stop listening to people pretending to know what they are talking about and people spreading misinformation based on wives tails and rumors.

    • @redroosterranches
      @redroosterranches 3 місяці тому

      @@scottmendoza8989 not sure where my previous comment went to, but as I was saying, the only recall notice on the model year of LS 500 that this engine is based on is about air bags not deploying on the passenger side. A quick Reddit search shows no engine complaints over longevity for that year either and if anyone is going to crap all over a product online it’s going to be on Reddit, plenty of trolls.

    • @doom4067
      @doom4067 3 місяці тому

      I strongly doubt they'll go back to the V8, but I wonder if this will create a significant aftermarket for a V8 swap.

  • @Nevets007
    @Nevets007 3 місяці тому +3

    They need to just make this model with a V8….

  • @Nevets007
    @Nevets007 3 місяці тому +10

    Holding on to my 2019 1794 edition till I die

  • @HANS-tb4me
    @HANS-tb4me 3 місяці тому +1

    Long block/ full engine should be do if needed. Opt of V8 sounds awesome

  • @mooseoxtank
    @mooseoxtank 3 місяці тому +2

    V6 Tundra? Are you stranded? Need a tow? Let me know, I got a V8 SR5 TSS Offroad. Maybe I can deliver your first replacement engine?

    • @cwqrpportable
      @cwqrpportable 3 місяці тому

      If you can't get hold of Moose, give me a shout. I have a few 5.0 litre Coyote V8 F150s, with tow hooks. I can send a couple guys along your way from the job site, I'm sure they'd appreciate going for a drive. No charge for the first tow, slight reimbursement for the second tow later when Toyota's fix fails.

  • @frankthetank5163
    @frankthetank5163 3 місяці тому +1

    Full engine replacement with extended warranty. Short block no thanks because they have to rip apart your truck to do that.

  • @everybodystaycalm5090
    @everybodystaycalm5090 3 місяці тому +10

    Toyota should take all the 3.4 turbo engines and replace them with the 5.7 v8.

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 3 місяці тому +1

      Currently the government regulations don’t allow that since y’all voted blue 4 years ago.

  • @TM15R
    @TM15R 3 місяці тому +2

    Let's look at the original problem....4 and 6 cyl turbo engines. Ford, Chevy, Nissan, GMC, and Ram will sell you all the full size pick ups you want, all with available V-8 engines, all of which comply with all emissions requirements. You can buy a Fronteer with a V-6, N/A engine, just like my Tacoma 4.0. Toyota corporate, the BS is getting too deep.

    • @stevieray1828
      @stevieray1828 3 місяці тому

      Not disagreeing with you, but a lot of those companies promised to switch to all electric in the coming years, purchasing lithium from China. At least Toyota never went that route, and got heavily criticized for not going electric. Just saying

  • @Can08-55
    @Can08-55 3 місяці тому +2

    Fix the no recovery hooks on the front, put a real bumper on the back, do this and the engine. I might consider one for my next truck

  • @chrisjustice3999
    @chrisjustice3999 3 місяці тому +2

    I don’t think an extended warranty only is an option with it being a safety related recall. My opinion is the only reason the Max isn’t in this recall is because they will still move if the engine fails. I believe in the future they will be listed in the recall also.

  • @MajorRaynor
    @MajorRaynor 3 місяці тому +1

    I am waiting for them to add the hybrids to this recall that were built at the same time.

    • @kurtbeck5809
      @kurtbeck5809 3 місяці тому

      According to one youtuber there are a few cases of hybrid engines failing

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker 3 місяці тому

    Personally I’m not deterred about the recall. I’ll be looking for a bargain on the new 2024 or wait for the 2025 Tundra. Why not?

  • @CACressida
    @CACressida 3 місяці тому

    Me and my Toyota Nerds claimed that the old I6 7M in Cressidas and Supras were the worst Toyota engines ever but now the running joke is Toyota out 7M'd the 7M. The 7M would blow head gaskets at around 100,000 miles and rod knock 50,000‐100,000 miles later. Meanwhile the v35 just spins bearings right off the showroom floor.
    The TRD Pro needs a TRD supercharged 3UR and the 10 speed and a NA 3UR as standard and the V35 as an option nobody will buy.

  • @Bunkysworkshop
    @Bunkysworkshop 3 місяці тому +1

    I am soooo glad I decided to keep my 2015 V8 Tundra. However I do wish they would give us a diesel Tundra.

  • @WyLEE08
    @WyLEE08 3 місяці тому +1

    Here at Team Toyota of Glen Mills we value you as our customer & are always looking for specific vehicles for our pre-owned lot. As a loyal service customer, we are especially interested in well maintained vehicles like yours.
    Your 2022 Toyota Tundra 4WD*will never be worth more than it is today. Stop in for an appraisal, and ask about using your equity to purchase a newer vehicle. Let’s discuss options available for getting you into your desired new vehicle.
    *WHOLESALE ONLY

  • @thejamesonellis
    @thejamesonellis 3 місяці тому

    First, I want to say that I really enjoy your channel. I agree 100% with bringing back the V8 with a 10 speed transmission with a twin turbo V6 option. Let the market decide what it wants.
    I personally hate the design of the 3rd Gen Tundra. In my opinion, the 2nd Gen is still the best looking truck on the road. They should've beefed up the 2nd Gen design, modernized the interior, and taken a more innovative approach to fuel economy with a 10 speed transmission 5.7L V8.
    Recently, I've seen AI renderings of what people 'think' the 2025 refresh will look like and some of them look more like a modernized 2nd Gen. Those AI renderings look much better than this current 3rd Gen and in my opinion, are exactly what Toyota should've been going for on this redesign.

  • @ksorsomeplace
    @ksorsomeplace 3 місяці тому +8

    Maybe there is another choice: Bring out the Tundra Classic. Produce the old model right alongside the new one.

  • @Chacha12355
    @Chacha12355 3 місяці тому +2

    Yes full swap and a full extended warranty to 150,000

    • @shanewhittemore
      @shanewhittemore 3 місяці тому

      What will you swap it with? I say refund.

  • @MrMaz111
    @MrMaz111 3 місяці тому +2

    I'll be happy if they bring back the 4.7 V8.

  • @jessedavid4271
    @jessedavid4271 3 місяці тому

    6/12/24 - Buy back those proven failed junk vehicles
    Or
    Total engine replacement ... period ...
    Yea lots money
    But again Toyota America Japan failed
    Reputation on the line
    Like Bud, they'll make a slow come back
    However, toyota name is stained
    "Bat Shite CraZy"
    MTGA
    make Toyota great again

  • @iJava91
    @iJava91 3 місяці тому

    I have a 2015 5.7 V8 Tundra. I will keep this car until the very end UNLESS they offered a refreshed V8 in the new Tundra. 100% not going V6TT even if they "fix" the problem. That ship has sailed. Likely my next truck will be a GM or Ford V8

  • @AuralioCabal-nl8gi
    @AuralioCabal-nl8gi 3 місяці тому

    Just go reserve a Tesla CYBRTRK , problem solved, no Turbos no multispeed tranny,, no timing chan,differential, NO ⛽GAS...🤣

  • @badazzbro3756
    @badazzbro3756 3 місяці тому

    A fix is to replace all the engines period, that are the defected on the recall . There's no work around a defective vehicle engine. Since your a super fan of that Toyota Corp would you purchase a Tundra that were produce between 2022 to 2024 now??? Only a fool would at this time would. 102,000 engine recall times the replacement of the engine cost between and $28,000 and $30,000 that equals between respectively $2,856,000,000 to $3,060,000,000 this is the reality of a engine recall that potentially has debris in it. Toyota has the money they can afford it. Toyota has been the automaker big dog for many years. Toyota will need to hire whole lot more mechanics, or buy back those trucks. When the engine is faulty the whole truck becomes useless piece of crap, or pick a parts etc... Do you remember when GMC was the big automaker big dog?

  • @tedandress2741
    @tedandress2741 3 місяці тому +1

    2024's ??????????????????

  • @gregc9220
    @gregc9220 3 місяці тому

    Best thing Toyota can do right know is buy back all 2022-2024 tundras and go back to the drawing board, right it off and bring back the V8 in a 2025 model

  • @peterdanese3823
    @peterdanese3823 3 місяці тому

    It’s funny how a recall can create mass hysteria. As an owner of a ‘22 SR5 TRD Off Road affected by the recall I prefer to look at the data. There were 229,589 sold per online source for 2022 and 2023 combined. The documented failures make up a fraction of a percent overall. Can someone provide factual data of the daily engine failure rate? I would think if this was a major widespread issue these engines would be failing on a daily basis with the trucks ending up in dealers everyday.
    Again quite a few trucks on the road. Where is the media coverage of the trucks piling up with failures?

  • @AuralioCabal-nl8gi
    @AuralioCabal-nl8gi 3 місяці тому

    Toyota should scrap all it's ICE based vehicles and go BEV , oh, and kiss off that FOOLCELLS program, it aint gonna ever become reality ( the Hydrogen Infras)🤣

  • @TheBandit7613
    @TheBandit7613 3 місяці тому +4

    Toyota is hiring 300 to 400 more people for their engine plants. Start cranking out LONG BLOCKS and get busy. Rescue as much reputation as possible.

    • @fjorge4014
      @fjorge4014 3 місяці тому

      What would a long block do instead of a small block in current tundras?

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 3 місяці тому

      @@fjorge4014 A short block only provides the pistons, block and rotating assembly. The rest of the engine still had metal debris circulating around. Basically its a whole new engine. And that's what people want when they just bought a new expensive truck.

  • @marknh3312
    @marknh3312 3 місяці тому

    Ha ha ha “bring back the 5.7 V8” and yet y’all bought this Tundra! I had a 13 year old Tundra rusted out and wouldn’t pass inspection and I wanted nothing to do with this gen! Happy Ford owner. How long I drive it is still obviously TBD. I do hope Toyota does crate engines and buy backs or they’ll probably face a class action lawsuit.

  • @tombox2759
    @tombox2759 3 місяці тому

    So happy to own 2 brand new 2024 TRD Offroad Premium 4Runners in my garage. Clear title on both. Both in Underground. Last of the great real Toyota vehicles made and assembled in Japan. Took a 100 pics of the new Tundra on a dealer lot and this junk did not have two straight lines or panel gaps anywhere. It was so pathetic and sad to see this junk at 75000. I had to laugh and cry in the same moment.

  • @jza80king
    @jza80king 3 місяці тому

    Drop a 2jz in the truck lol... Seriously though, there's several guys on tundra forums that have posted their warranty work invoice and the short block replacement alone is $30k. Imagine what a full engine replacement would be. It would cost Toyota billions, yeah with a B.

  • @haroldchristian5212
    @haroldchristian5212 3 місяці тому

    Bring back the 5.7 V8!!! Engine is Bulletproof!! Even my 05 4.7 V8 326,000 miles on it with no problems!!

  • @notsogood6249
    @notsogood6249 3 місяці тому

    I like watching the UA-camrs back pedal now...they couldn't wait till the new Tundra come out. All they talked about on their channel was the design and the fuel economy. Now! They are wanting to go back to the 5.7. Some of these UA-camrs are now playing damage control for Toyota. Bottom line with all automobile manufactures they make them as cheap as possible but charge the consumer as much as possible. Remember when they were jacking up there prices claiming a shortage of vehicles, they made all this up just to jack up the prices. They called it a chip or parts shortage, so I say Toyota its time for your to bust out your wallet and buy back these Tundra owner's, screw short block, complete engine, and extended warranty. Bottom line your engine failed and is nothing but a big piece of junk.

  • @chaley56
    @chaley56 3 місяці тому

    I know it won’t happen but all Toyota had to do was give a little face lift to the truck (if they wanted) but just literally take the 2021 tundra and put 2022 infotainment system in it that’s it!!
    Give me some cool tech that all android and apple auto maybe some WiFi and go on about your business
    Literally that all i needed. They almost had me too because I remember that Super Bowl commercial and I was waiting for that unveiling didn’t really care for the luck test drove it just didn’t like it.
    I just kept my 2020 it has 19k miles on it love that truck

  • @michaelweaver8077
    @michaelweaver8077 3 місяці тому

    Someone is going to get killed due to the engine blowing up while on a highway. They have to fix the issue. I think everyone that owns a Gen 3 should stop making payments if Toyota doesn't make this right. I have a 2022 TRD Pro that runs great and I'm at 33,000 miles but I'm considering trading it in. I love my truck but this engine issue makes me nervous.

  • @davecavalcanto8552
    @davecavalcanto8552 3 місяці тому

    Well, many were tired of the older gen and wanted the truck updated. Be careful what you ask for, because you might just get it! They should’ve stuck with the V8, regardless of what the EPA wants! The EPA is NOT an elected element.

  • @Ken-lp5zv
    @Ken-lp5zv 3 місяці тому

    Toyota needs to prorate all of the Tundra's and buy them back or offer a voucher option to buy a different Toyota model.
    Everyone who took out a loan in the last 2 years is not WAAAY upside down on their vehicles if they try to trade in. They could be looking at 75% loss on a $70,000 truck.
    Put in a short block and your truck will have rattles and squeaks galore. Send the trucks to Hamas or the Taliban, they seem to love them.