Tundra Owners - Info To Help You Decide What To Do About Recall
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Tundra Owners - Info To Help You Decide What To Do About Recall
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Fixed my 22 Tundra problem. Sold it.
Honestly what I would do if it was me too.
So you knowingly dumped your problem onto some other poor schmuck
How noble of you🤣
Just like Toyota did to 100,000 customers
I’d do the same!!!
@@joeblack1052 No, they did not receive the product they paid for. People pay the "ToyotaTax" because of the reliability.
Now they are junk and customers are rightfully dumping the turds.
I own a 2024 Tundra Limited it was built in 09/23. I’m planning on keeping it I believe Toyota will do right by their customers. I love this truck and I have wanted 1 for the past 10 years
Congratulations on such a beautiful truck. Statistically you are spot on in your assessment. You should not have a problem and by the time if does If ever the fix will be available and proven. And being a 24 you would loose huge dumping it off. If Iwas you with a new 24. I'd drive it, love it, enjoy it and not worry about it. Of something happens, have it fixed then.
Same bought mine 6/23 16000 miles. All is running nice and smooth.
It was built 6/23. Bought it 7/23@Junior-cp9se
Fingers crossed🤔..😂
Tundras are not Camrys....y'all need to stop confusing the two.
Wow! A UA-camr in the automotive space with a brain?! You sir earned my support.
Thank you. Greatly appreciated
He’s an idiot overrating.
They investigated for a year to find the root cause of a very low occurrence failure.
The depreciation on these tundras is going to be horrific. No one will want them just because of Toyota's behavior
Tundra depreciation is dropping. But it's not all due to this recall. The days of toyota having good resale is over. We knew that would happen as soon as they introduced the new tundra. Same will happen with the tacoma, the new 4 runner and the land cruiser. And agree 100% toyotas behavior so far is the number one reason I would dump mine if I owned one. Not because of the truck. But because of toyotas actions. with it
@@SamkoWorkShop “if I owned one”🤣
You fail to realise the improvement in the general reliability of other manufacturers is in no small part due to Toyota
@samkoworkshop Toyotas are now priced like luxury vehicles but have worse quality. It used to be a we paid a premium for the quality control despite lower performance. Now it’s low quality, low performance, and high prices.
So far no change.
Peeps think Tundras are like Camrys....they are not.
The way you have thoroughly looked into this from the top and bottom and going into detail of things that I would not consider or thought of because I wouldn't know about it.
I think you are gonna be doing my homework. I'm gonna check back and read what you say. That's it, and a *"BiG Thank You"* 👌
Thank you. Greatly appreciated
Thank you my good sir for the reassurance. My wife loves her 2024 sr5 crewmax TRD off-road and she would be devastated to see it dumped.
Statistics say she has less than .05% chance hers will have a problem.
At this time I'm going to wait and see what Toyota comes up with for a remedy I love the truck I for one think they will take care of us
I think that is a very smart move
Excellent Perspective! Thanks bro!
Thank you. Hope it helps give so thoughts and ideas to tundra owners
Good job, my guy. Bout time. The FIRST video to point out all manufacturers issues.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video, owner of a 2022 tundra sr5 sport package 4x4 with 54k miles and still going strong. Will keep mine I do my oil changes every 5k miles. My tundra was built 12/21 so it’s definitely effected but idc I trust Toyota, my dealership has always been treating me right
Perfect. Especially when you have a good dealer!
I understand the comparison you're trying to make what other manufacturers but the GM 2.7 L had a total of 11 engines replaced among the three models which is nothing compared to what Toyota is looking at with 100,000 engines
Gm only had to replace 15 motors so far. But the recall was for all trucks with a 2.7 for an entire year. At the time gm issued the recall they didn't know how bad it would be. Just like toyota doesn't. But gm took the high road this time. Right now toyota is recalling 100k for inspection. They only have a less than 1% failure so far into this recall.
Hey man, I really appreciate the measured and reassuring tone of the video. I own a ‘24 platinum hybrid that while technically not part of the recall is probably still affected. I love my truck and I trust Toyota. But it is worrying when so many people are freaking out online about it. Seeing other brand recalls helps put things into perspective
Glad you enjoyed the video and Congrats on a beautiful truck! I would not be too worried. And if something does happen Toyota should get it sorted and right for you.
easier said than done for me living on an island. if I wanna visit another dealer, I'd have to go on a boat. great info and true perspective btw. it's all relative.
I really apreciate you taking the time to make this vid. I hope people watch it and chill out. It sucks for us owners, but in the end it'll just be in the past. Im on the fence selling mine or keeping it. Like you said, less than 1% at this point. Roll of the dice either way.
So sorry you have to go thru this.
Comments are always from heaters and I’m sure they don’t even own any Tundra at all.. this truck is wonderful and all problems will be solved , I know many 3rd gen Tundra owners, not a single issue and all of them are very happy with their trucks
Very true. And statistics showing less than 1% with issues. This will blow over and get sorted soon and then be forgotten about. But I sure can see how tundra owners would be nervous and a little bit of panic. That's why I made the video. Trying to ease some of that worry.
Exactly!
Dump it... it's a main bearing issue. And they starred happening in Feb 2023, but it took this long for a recall. It's a design issue
At this stage if I owned one, I'd dump it too. Especially seeing that I could sell it and not loose horrible right now. I'd loose, but not horrible.
@@SamkoWorkShop even a 2024 with only 1500 miles on ?
@LightWorkRev2-9 no not a 2024. I believe toyota fixed the issue before 2024. I think 2024s will be safe. I think I've heard of 1 2024 failure so far. I'm talking about the 22 and 23s before what ever date in Feb 2023 that toyota said in the recall
@@SamkoWorkShop whew. spent the last week sick to my stomach.....ill let u know if i have any issues , im running 91 fuel and will stay early on the oil changes at the dealer, currently only 1500 miles on my new 2024 SR5 Tundra Off Road (Lunar Rock)
@LightWorkRev2-9 beautiful truck and my all time favorite toyota color! If I was a betting man I'd put all my money your truck not having an issue
Traded in my 2024 1794 TRD. 3800 miles plastic junk all around, now this. Done!
So sorry you had to deal with that
Very disappointed , thank you.
Exactly! It's not just the engine. It's the whole truck!
I was at Toyota dealership dealership in 2020 and checked out a 1794 TRD.
To me the interior of that truck had any Cadillac on the road , beat for "Luxurious" looks. 🏆 👌
@icosthop9998 they sure make some of these terms super luxurious. Next time you go by a ram dealer take a look inside a ram 1500 tungsten! If like Mercedes and Bently had a child in there!
Luckily I found your channel and others prior to buying a new Tundra. Good grief that was a close call!!!
I don't think it's a good time to buy one. Maybe in a couple years when they get it all sorted. Toyora has a bad track record with all new designs and all new truck engines. And toyota moves very slow to repair. In a couple years this might be the best truck to own. Bit right now I'd avoid it
Why would you consider an overpriced and over complicated and cheaply finished truck?
That Toyota sells one base version and about 10 different luxury trims is a red flag in itself
They don’t know the market or they just don’t care
Probably the latter
@joeblack1052 toyota has been riding the coat tails of old and simple designs that we all loved. And they were built well. All that has changed with the new gens. Toyota still makes great trucks. But if they are gonna build them like this now prices need to reflect that and they have to stand behind the higher number of warranty claims and issues.
Buy a 2024 4Runner while you still can.
@@SamkoWorkShop they were lazy and greedy
They didn’t even try to constantly improve the old designs
Considering constant improvement is kind of their motto
That left them playing catch up
They couldn’t care less about tundra really so they threw limited resources at a complete redesign based on the global platform
That under resourced ambitious project has resulted in this
Toyota titanic
I appreciate Toyota is offering a recall. GM, to my knowledge, isn't acknowledging the engine issues across the full lineup.
Dump that POS - It’s not just the engine recall, the entire truck is poorly assembled and riddled with design flaws. If the engine doesn’t fall apart, something else will.
Definitely not make to the standards of toyota in the past
They could have built the previous gen forever and no one would care and still buy it.
@@GregoryRamsey agree 100
@@SamkoWorkShop yes
Dealerships are saying no thanks we don't want your used tundra. So we are stuck with them.
If its metal debris, I bet it has to do with the design of the motor creating it.
Bingo!!!
Good point
Apparently 95% of the people in these comments did not hear a damn thing you said in the video.
😂
In what way was "ninety five percent" of people missing what he was saying ❔️
@@icosthop9998 much of the video compared the recall to other past and current recalls from other automakers and that this could likely be a moment in time and hopefully Toyota will fix the problem and satisfy owners in the coming weeks with an outright remedy. All automakers have significant recalls but it is more unusual for Toyota. In my opinion at the time of my response it seemed most commentators were using the platform to specifically bash Toyota. That’s fine I guess but it is a different vain than the my interpretation of the video.
@bhbdvm1821 your interpretation is exactly what I was going for when I made it. I was trying to help ease the worry that tundra owners have with everything going on. And trying to put it into perspective with the other manufacturers and how similar catastrophic failures were fixed and forgotten about quickly.
@@bhbdvm1821I believe Toyota has had more blunders than is widely known. They have done a great job with drive train and the owners don’t complain about the AC, interior, rust and other issues because it still drives. Toyota is famous for silent recalls because they cut corners on items not safety related.
I would not buy an aspirated engine, especially in a truck ,unless racing and performance was the intended use or it was a diesel.. The EPA has set emissions standards so tight to get folks to buy impractical EV's, that manufactures are having trouble meeting the new emission standards. The government has caused this mess and it's also making vehicles more expensive.
Thank you I’m keeping mine , we’re can you go No we’re. Toyota will take care of the problem.
Can totally respect that.
Samko. Thanks for the time you put into this video. It is appreciated. Lots of raging emotions out there and I am one of them as an owner of a 22 with 65k km. Your stats on how 90% of people will not even know about this is interesting however where do you get that stat from? For me it’s relevant info because I would like 2 to 4 weeks to get my head wrapped around this thing before I pull the trigger and if that stat is accurate then it will be slow moving and like you said will blow over and new and used sales will move along but likely with a dip in depreciation. However, as someone who did not purchase an extended warranty I feel pressured to make a move soon. I have faith my truck will be fine but if it isn’t then the thought of a failure at higher mileage and a sickening bill makes driving the truck less enjoyable.
I guessed on that 90% stat based on a figure I read that said only about 8% of people that buy a car research it before buying for issues. Can't remember who wrote it. But it stuck with me. And as we can see by all the sales numbers of all other brands that had catastrophic failures, they never skipped a beat sales wise. This is a crap situation you are in. And I'm sorry you have to deal with this
Great video. Maybe a follow up video for people deciding to keep their Tundra on best ways to add an extended warranty? I’ve never added one after the fact and never bought one on a Toyota, but this seems like the case to have one, especially if you have the hybrid Tundra. I wouldn’t run out tomorrow to buy one, I’d see if Toyota extends the warranty on their own first which is what they should do.
I would also go to 6 months/5,000 mile oil changes and I’d get mine at the dealership so all the maintenance paperwork is in one spot in the event of a failure. Don’t give them any excuse to deny you down the road.
You can added an extended warranty by calling multiple toyta dealers to find the best price as long as you are under 36k miles. After 36k you need to go aftermarket warranty and those are not very trust worthy. I believe toyota gives 100k and 10 year on the hybrid system. Bit definitely shop different dealers for best price ad they all try ro make huge profits off them
I am glad that when Toyota designed this truck it was so ugly I was completely turned off. Than I learned it was going to be powered by a turbo six cylinder I went out and bought a 2020 5.7 V8. Saved me a lot of grief!
And your 2020 will run for decades
@@SamkoWorkShop Sad that Toyota did this to their reputation. I think most people could live with small issues, but when engines fail that is a serious game changer. And you are right, I can dive my 5.7 for years to come worry free.
My favorite so far.
Dealers and individuals will take advantage of those who offer a fire sale. I personally love my Rams, and Jeeps. I buy right, I buy extended warranty, I do the maintenance and don’t ignore a symptom. I enjoy my vehicles. I seriously doubt the Tundra is worse than anything else. Panic is the worst mode of operation. Great video for those who will listen. I agree the biggest problem is lack of engine swap vs repairs.
Very well said and appreciate the great comment. You nailed it when you said panic is the worst mode of operation.
Jeeps and Rams have four of the top 10 worst vehicles currently!
@@user-et4yo4fm1n I don't believe that for a second.
@@SamkoWorkShopI just saw the report last week.
Remember that the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the U.S. . If you wanted to correctly compare the two markets, you'd need to adjust used availability/vehicles sold.
Really you'll want to average the market over a couple months and then use those numbers to calculate.
I love my truck and going on 28k. With only 1% with an issue and them already acknowledging the issue I'm just going to keep going and so what occurs.
Nothing wrong with that. And financially is probably the smartest decision
Sounds like the gem is a nissan titan. Still a v8, japan brand,9 speed. Very underrated truck.
Agree 100%
Trash.
What are you thoughts on the Lexus GX550? I ask because it's essentially the same engine. I'm waiting on mine allocated to me to come in. I still have the thought in the back of my mind. I officially have a lot more time to think about it because it's on QC hold for the moonroof.
Tough call. Statistically it should be all good. But if you are gonna be nervous and worries I'd back out and wait a year
I have a 23' and it says it is built in 8/23. The recall dates are manufactured 11/22-3/23 so hopefully fingers crossed. I bought a Tundra because of the Toyota brand and reputation and the rep of the 5.7. I may hang on to it within the power train warranty and see how the new 4Runners are doing by then.
Statistically you should be all good!
I have a 22 1794 Edition Tundra. A little upset hearing that they were aware of a problem back in 22. My truck is paid off and I have the Extended Warranty. Biggest problem for me is the Hartford, CT dealership I bought from. Presently sitting on 4 Recalls, including current one with no fix yet. Brought it in 2 times for the electrical hazard where they have to drop the fuel tank. First drop off was too much gas, had about 3/4 tank and they told me had to be 1/4 tank or less. Scheduled the second time and made sure gas tank was below a 1/4 tank. Dropped it off went home and barely opened the door when they called me back to pick up the truck. Went back and they told me they did not have the repair parts. Since this one I am sitting on 2 other Recalls. As far as this major recall although it is less than 1% of the vehicles sold you have to think is it mine. Is it going to blow up on me when I am 300 miles from home? As others have torn this engine down to fix before the Recall occurred some have a feeling that it is a poorly designed part. Plus Toyota has no fix for this at the moment. Plan for me right now is just to keep it and live with it. States my vary but I would be really careful of selling a vehicle privately and not informing the buyer of what could be catastrophic engine failure.
Sorry you have to go thru all of this
Can’t wait for 2024 Tacoma to have these problems as well
I hope it doesnt and ends up being an amazing motor. Toyota has enough to deal with right now.
I’m waiting to see what they’re going to do. My options so far I’m considering is a current 4Runner or wrangler.
Realisticly and statistically yours should not have any issues. And hopefully toyota announces what it's gonna do soon for you so you can decide what you want to do. Shame you guys have to go thru this.
Can’t go wrong with either one. I choose a 2024 Wrangler Rubicon and it amazing…
Get the 2024 4Runner. It’s solid and should hold its value.
In a few years the bugs should be worked out of the Tundra, and the next gen 4Runner, and you can always switch.
@@davidm.8309 solid advise
From a Tundra to a 4Runner or Wrangler? Why did you even buy a truck in the first place?
I dumped mine the day after the recall. 2023 Tundra Platinum with 7k miles. I lost $12k value, and that was the best trade value I could get. I bought a 2024 Colorado Trail Boss.
Sucks you had to go thru all of this
i lost 8k on mine too bud .... its ok never again...
@@touthoj1987 that sucks. Sorry you had to deal with all this
For the people making the blanket statement “it’s a design flaw” then what specifically is the problem with the architecture of the engine AND can this be verified? If the engine is trash, how have we not seen larger failure numbers since the engine’s release in 2018?
It's not a design flaw. They know the batches that were affected. The hybrid is not built on the same line as the standard engine. Mire internet engineers with no degrees spouting wrong info
@@OldmanSnakewhy are we having failures on Hybrids then if it’s on a different line?
saw a video yesterday where they talked about the design of the cradle that supports the main bearings which was all one piece, they were suggesting that is the issue causing bearing #1 failure due to a twisting effect of the cradle.
I have a family member paying $2,400.00 a month for two 2022 Tundras for his landscape business. He would have been far better off buying 4 old Tundras.... but you know some people have to have the latest and "greatest" things... He bought them at $5k to $10k dealer markup too. He is so underwater on those things, it isn't even funny. I am not sure if he has had any of these issues though.
That's a bummer of a situation to be in. I hope his are ones that don't have any problems.
If they’re for his business it’s a tax write off.
@@thadlm2698 that is true. But when you had to get someone to co-sign for you because your credit stinks and have to make those payments for 72 months, it’s a big liability. I rather have 4 reliable Tundras than 2 questionable ones.
@@thadlm2698 still a $2.2k month liability that you have to make payments on for 72 months.
@@thadlm2698 I have replied back to this a couple times. It keeps getting deleted.
I leased a 2024 tundra I would be about 5-9k underwater if I returned it would should I do ?
If you leased it just drive it. It's not yours, it's basically a rental. Drive it and enjoy it. If it fails let them fix it and turn it on at the end of the lease
Does the recall include the iforce max? I heard Toyota wasn't recalling any hybrid because the electric motor still makes it "mobile"
Correct. Toyota is calling it a safety recall and since the hybrid will still drive if engine fails it's not included
@@SamkoWorkShop that's a shame because I just saw a video of I force Max having the same failure.
Cant be too mad about the situation, should have realized you were volunteering to be a Guinea Pig for a new platform, btw, Thanks for continuing to test out the Bugs for the manufacturer.
Many people don't have the time or would even think about researching a toyota truck. Toyotas reputation has been proven for som many years it's common knowledge. For many people that was all they needed to know and expected the same out of the new ones. And the average person only buys 5 to7 new vehicles in their life and bases current purchases on past experiences. So many don't think twice and just go buy another toyota. I don't blame any of them. But I do feel bad for the ones that have these issues happening. I have help 18 family members buy new cars in the last 2 years. Not one of them did any research and just picked brands based on past experiences. This is very common today.
Actually I don't remember hearing about the Jeep engine issues. I knew Ford has had issues with the V6 EcoBoost, but I thought they had it ironed out by now. I had no idea the Bronco had engine issues. This is the first time I've heard of the GM 2.7 Turbo 4 banger having a cracked block.
I new about the Hemi Tick lifter issue. I've also heard about the AFM on GM trucks being an issue.
Is the Bronco engine issue fixed?
Thays the way manufacturers like it. They don't want anyone to know about issues. Like I said in the video. Must of the public will never knew this happen to toyota. In a couple months this will be forgotten by almost everyone except the toyota owners that had to deal with it.
@@jackyouup7441 I have no idea as of right now.
Keep has three in the top ten worst vehicles currently.
I'm trading my 2023 sr5 this week. My first Toyota ever!!! Going back to the old Silverado I guess
So sorry you have to deal with this crap.
Man good old days are gone I bought a 99 Tacoma 2.7 4 banger best truck I've ever had had 298k when I wreck it it still run and shifted like new..a lady pulled out in front of me and I had a boat behind me totalled the truck little damage to the boat I was sick such a good truck 😢
Here in Canada, local tundras from 2022 are about $7k off. So not so bad. The problem is, if you take it to a dealer, they will never give you $7k off on a trade in, they'll take $12k to $15k off. The dealers know.
Yep toyota dealers have become the worst. They are a huge part of thos problem. Rather than help loyal customers out of this jam they hit em again
Whats funny is here in California, Toyota has billboards with the Tundra kicking up dirt and a caption stating "most reliable brand." The irony of using the least reliable product lol
Yep like I said in the video 90% of the population won't even ever know about this issue.
Toyota pretty much makes all of their new vehicles for the California consumer and those guys will buy it all. It's 95% pavement princess buyers anyways. I lived there for over 25 years, not talking out my rear.
Other channel but FYI: Wild Country has a recall on a bad batch of Ropeman 1s. Theres a post on their website and cpsc
Thank you. Checked 2 of mine I had it the house and all good. Have 4 in my garage spare parts bin that I need to check still.
Would the debris in the oil have been removed/cleaned out if the owner got the oil changed at 500 miles and again at 3000? Every new vehicle I have purchased I change the oil twice before I start the recommended service intervals. I change all the fluids before the recommended times. Manufacture says the transmission fluid is good for 100k. I change at 50k. I put 245k miles on my Carolla and then gave it to my niece. She has put another 100k on it.
Love that you change the oil like that. And if it was debris in the engine you most likely cleared it out with those 2 early oil changes
Saving a few hundred dollars on oil is the best way to lose thousands.
Even if the oil was changed earlier, there will still be damage. During engine break in, it is the most critical time for the engine ls longevity.
i dumped mine for $52k, i bought it for $58k.... better now than later
Just bought a 24 and the recall came out 2 day later😂. Fortunately I bought from a dealer that offered lifetime engine warranty. My anxiety has come down a little. But you never know what happens next …..
Congratulations on your new truck and the lifetime warranty is awesome
I have a 2023 Tundra SR5. Supposedly not impacted by Recall. Not sure what to do
If it's not impacted by the recall dates I bet it's good. Toyota would of made those dates with a buffer built in.
I own 2023 1794 gas only tundra manufactured in Jan 2023. How come my vehicle is not showing under recall on Toyota or NHTSA websites? In the recall announcement, trucks manufactured till Feb 2023 are affected so how come mine is not included? Anyone else has this concern.
Yes, I have the exact same truck as you in the Mesquite and mine isn’t on the list either. I have 26,000 miles and I’ve pulled a 38 foot 10,000 pound trailer for more than half of those miles and I haven’t had a single issue with my truck. It’s still running like a champ, however, I wasn’t worried until I saw this video and he is right just always gonna be a line of vehicles that have problems and I think we just missed being in that boat. I believe February was just a rough estimate date. However, I have been changing my oil every 5000 miles and I just hit 25,000 miles and I changed my differential fluid and my transfer case oil just to be safe because of the trailer pulling. I don’t wanna take any chances
@@artemusburton4824 Wow, glad to know your truck is doing just fine especially with hauling trailer. The fact that some 2024 models are also affected makes me wonder if Toyota is intentionally not including all vehicles including hybrids due to reputation concerns. I think sooner or later they will include all the vehicles. I really hope the current recall list that is out now is it and no more … time will tell.
Other channels are getting on to Dogde about the Demon 170 which is blowing motors left and right. Also the new 3.0 hurricane motors in the Wagoneer and now the Ram 1500 is failing too
All new motors fail from every manufacturer. That's why the age old saying is true. Always wait until middle of a cycle and never buy first year. Today it's more like don't buy first 2 or 3 years😂
I am very excited about buying the 2024 tundra and here is why. I didn’t buy it, I actually leased it. All of the depreciation risk is now on Toyota. The best thing to do is negotiate the best lease possible. And take advantage of the multiple security deposits that Toyota allows you to do. You’re allowed to do 10, which will reduce the money factor Significantly. Now you can enjoy the truck and all the risk is now back on Toyota.
Congratulations on the new truck and your right, leasing takes the stress away.
Same I also leased mine 24 also what are you going to do with yours ?
The risk of dying is not worth it
I just bought a 2024 Tundra Platinum less than 2 weeks ago. Should I not have purchased it? I don't know much about engines and all that so I'm worried I got hosed. Never had a Tundra before. They do owe me some hail damage repair from a storm the day before I picked it up. Should I try to get them to take it back? Honestly dont know how to handle it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Congratulations on your new truck! I would not worry too much. I personally believe toyota fixed the issue on the new built ones as they knew about this issue for 2 years and I imaging have been making tweaks without telling us. So I would assume a new built 24 is good be good. And even the recalled ones are less than a 1% failure rate. I don't think they would take it back anyway. But if you wanted to try you could.
@@SamkoWorkShop you think it might go back to August 2023? That is the build date on my TRD PRO. If you had to guess of course:)
@keithcrandall1369 a big part of me says no it should not be an issue. Toyota knew about this since March of 22 and started working on a fix according to nhtsa, even though toyota won't tell us the problem. So I'm assuming the build dates they picked where models before they made the changes. The changes they won't tell us..lol
@@SamkoWorkShop thanks for your quick and awesome reply...I certainly hope so!!
Enjoy it. These people are overreacting!
Hey Jason, Im in the same predicament with my 23 TRX. The truck has a handful of small and large issues. Rattles, clicks, noises where there shouldn't be, leaking shock, rear sliding glass window won't stay on the track, side mirror unresponsive to adjustment controls. Just unacceptable build quality. I love the truck but what's pushing me over the edge to dump it is the dealer experiences. Im on my third CDJR dealer trying to get my truck in for warranty repairs. It seems none of the dealers want to take on warranty repairs because they don't get paid as much from the manufacturer for a warranty repair vs customer pay. They lie and BS you until you move on to another dealer. The best you get is " drop it off, there is no guaranteed time before someone even looks at it, and we don't have any loaners for you". What is the NEW car warranty worth if you can't even get an APPOINTMENT to get your vehicle in? and if you do..they won't provide a loaner. Icing on the cake; New Safety Recall - 33B : Insufficient welds in steering column that would prevent DRIVER airbag from deploying in the event of an accident. As of today, no fix. Serious enough that FCA put a STOP SALE on unsold affected vehicles but consumers who have already purchased have to keep driving at a safety risk I guess.
Sounds likes you have some crappy dealers in your area for sure. Never heard of dealers acting like that in service department. I'd call a couple other dealers and set everything up over the phone and request a technician drive with you so you can show him all of this stuff at the time of the appointment.
If that doesn't work I'd call ram directly and explain all of this to them and see what they can do.
@@SamkoWorkShop Thanks for the suggestions, I want to try and get the issues fixed instead of moving on if possible because as you know as well there isn't much else out there to replace it that checks off the same boxes.
@nst3270 yep and I try ro make all my vehicle decisions based on money rather than emotion. And the money says keep it.
Why would a dealer take one of these as a trade except for some shady outfit
All your comparisons are not valid
The suitable comparison is the Hyundai/Kia theta engine
They extended the warranty
But I know somebody who purchased one used and wasn’t informed about warranty conditions
The car failed at 100k miles and no warranty
They had to walk away from it
These tundras will be ticking time bombs the older they get the more that will fail
I don't see it as a ticking rime bomb with only less than 1% failing. Hopefully toyota will get it sorted for these owners. And yes my comparisons are very valid. All of them were catastrophic engine failures and all brands never skipped a beat sales wise.
@@SamkoWorkShop any of the trucks that have the metal debris in the engine will fail at some point
Whether it’s 10k miles or 100K miles
Toyota won’t say how many are affected or they still don’t know
That they are not doing complete engine replacement tends to indicate they are expecting a lot more failures
I think with the Kia engine they did a modification to the engine sensors to give early indication that a failure maybe present and it’s possible Toyota will do similar so they can preempt engine failures
@joeblack1052 very well could be true. We won't know what toyotas gonna do until they tell us. But made this video for tundra owners to help make the best decisions for them personally in this mess.
I can not imagine keeping one of these trucks outside of warranty, these shortblocks have a 28k price point I believe, imagine having to do that out of pocket, and if you have problems with the turbo you have to take the whole cab off it is nuts
I would not own any new vehicle today outside of warranty. I will always opt for the extended factor warranty. But I would also always shop that warranty price and never buy it from the dealer I buy the car from
thanks for making this Sam and being a voice of reason.
if i had a 22 or 23 i might consider trading in or selling.
im thinking about keeping my 24 for 3 years...its only got 1500 miles on it .....then trade it in after ......will have 3.5 - 4 years left on my 7 year warranty and by then hopefully Toyota is dialled again.
Yep if I had a 24 I'd do the same. The 24s are not supposed to be effected
Who here remembers the turbo wastegate problem they had when these first came out?
Yep. Every manufacturer has major issues with new models and new engines. All part of the game.
Ford eco boost failures too
Talked about that in the video
In times like these I just think "What would TRD Jon do?"
He sold both of his tundras. 😂.
@@SamkoWorkShop bahahaha
Not panic and act stupid.
@@user-et4yo4fm1n more like ignore the problem and post a happy video of the new rims he bought.
I had a 24 Tundra TRD Pro and bailed on it for one of the last 4Runners. I took a $ bath but my bet was Toyota is not going to make good on this engine issue and resale values will continue to plummet for every 3rd Gen now and far into the future. Maybe nothing will happen to my truck, maybe it will hold its value in the future, maybe Toyota will do the right thing…too many ‘maybes’ for me. You may ask why buy another Toyota, didn’t this whole TTV6 issue piss you off? Well yes I’m pissed beyond words at Toyota but there’s no denying they got everything completely right with the 5th gen 4Runner. Maybe (LOL) I will be proven wrong with my decision and hopefully so for the rest of you that are stuck or decide to stay with the 3rd Gen Tundra. Good luck to all!
The 4 runner is the most reliable vehicle made today. And it's capable, function, comfortable for a family and buit to a quality standard that means you should never have to deal with toytas bs again.
I have a 2022 4Runner 50k miles
Faulty wheel bearing at 12k miles replaced under warranty
Parts took less than 2 weeks to source and vehicle was still drivable although without 4wd and abs
There is a risk that this Toyota contagion is spreading thru all their vehicles
@@joeblack1052 I’ll rake faulty wheel bearings over a blown engine ANY day of the week!
@@StripedTurkey yeah
They gave the new tundra the undercarriage build quality of the 4runner and dropped the ball on the rest
Tried to do too much
They could of just put the old tundra
on the new undercarriage and with the new transmission and took it from there
Even hybridised the 5.7 V8 or used the 4.7 V8 with hybrid
I think you made the right decision.
Anything short of a new engine is not a real fix. Shortblock is a band aid as metal could be in nooks and cranny's of the engine. Sure, you may be fine for even 5-10 years but for those wanting to hold it for 100-150k miles its a huge gamble.
Thats a massive bill you might be left with.
Great point
Im keeping my tundra 2024 1794 limited edition if something go wrong they have to fix it I have warranty for life.
Very nice. And I don't believe the 24s are effected like the 22 and 23s are
how do you have warranty for life?
Wouldn't work for me. I drive in the middle of nowhere. Warranty means nothing when I'm stranded in the middle of nowhere at 3am.
@@jonesjones7057 I understand your concern
@@whodat1473 that is what the dealer offer me they told you can have 2 hundred thousand miles something happen we would fixed or put new engine my contract confirmed that
2022-2023 fuel gauges don’t work. Can stall n run out of gas n get hit by another vehicle. Why no safety recall?
Good question
This morning I seen and couldn’t believe a brand new tundra, DEARLER plates were still on….. blowing clouds,clouds of white smoke going down the 91w freeway (socal).
Jeez, Toyota. Just bring back the V8 and I promise I’ll buy one
Made me roll up the window since I was stuck behind him
That would be such a bummer. And the poor owner probably has no idea about the recall, problems or any of this before he bought it.
When I’m in Moab with literally thousands of Jeeps wheeling hard off-road (only where Jeeps can go) I’m amazed how reliable and tough these Wrangler and Gladiators are! 💪
Love mine too! Quality, capable and built like a tank
Are the gladiators with the diesel engines worth getting?
If you want to go four wheeling buy a jeep. If you want to go four wheeling and come back home buy a 4 Runner!
@@bikerz3857 Your 4-runner ain’t making it past the first obstacle. I’ll also blow away your 4-runner on the street too. My Jeep is faster, handles better and gets better fuel economy.
@@bikerz3857 more like walk home pissed off the toyota doesn't have good suspension articulation and have a whimpy drivetrain
the Tundra bottom block compared to the ford 2.7 block is not stout enough
They are claiming debris..I doubt it..but you can not take a risk trade it now take the hit
When they come out that it is more serious then you won’t be able to unload
Could be right. Sure wish toyota would stop hiding the truth here
Lemon law them. Did my 2022. 100% buyback because of fuel gauge.
Always an option depending on state lemon laws
The Toyota punch bowl WAS awesome, until they dropped the "Turbo-TRD's" engines, In the Bowl! If you getting one, get a 24 4Runner, 😇
Agree 100% 4 runner is an amazing truck
I have a 2020 5.7L Sequoia, and this whole thing has STILL left a bad taste in my mouth.
Toyota needs to really step up their customer service stuff. This is crazy
I'm guessing Toyota gives you perks !
That's funny. You should watch my other videos before saying something like that
@@SamkoWorkShop didn't answer my question ❓
@nxtgen2b416 nope they don't. Toyota probably hates me
So mad I’m thinking to get a Nissan titan pro 4 v8
Killer deals on them right now! Just got done spending a couple hours finding best deals on frontiers for a video I'm publishing tomorrow and saw some smoking titan deals.
Last year of the Titan because they are trash.
@@user-et4yo4fm1n not true redesign 2026 coming back
So glad I jumped ship
Love your f250
@@SamkoWorkShop it’s been a great truck. I have always hated Ford and still do for the most part but the F250 is solid.
I see a HUGE Class action in the works, and Toyota don't do a 2024 Tundra recall because a RECALL would put Dealers in a STOP SELL condition ,imagine all those UNSELLABLE $60,000 to $90,000 trucks sitting in DEALER lots until fixed!
I believe with a safety recall until fixed they are on a stop sale.
You're going to be shocked at the depreciation. I have a 2023 Tundra TRD Offroad Army Green XP Package, most dealers would give me most $45,000 which makes it a 30% depreciation, I had less than 5000 miles at the time. Then I tried on Market place, with dealers offering $8000 to $10,000 off with 1.9 financing, good luck trying to sell, I literally went a month without even one response. You're right though, I contacted a dealer 234 miles away from me, they had the 2024 4Runner I wanted on allocation, and although it was minimal, they did work with me and took away from some of my losses. Keep in mind of all the taxes you paid, you'll lose that selling on your own where you gain it back trading. Talking to Toyota corporate is a joke, they will not help you at all
So sad that toyota dealers are taking advantage of customers on trades. But glad you found a dealer that would work with you and take care of you. It's always worth calling many dealers. Especially with toyota. It's like 1 in 10 is good today. Maybe 2 out of 10.
@@SamkoWorkShop accurate
Until recall is taken care of dealers can only offer wholesale prices. Doesn’t mean they are depreciating.
@@user-et4yo4fm1n This was way before the recall
Get rid of it under the lemon law if possible. However, if not got to dump it
Won’t happen.
Just wonder the percentage of used fords and chevys? They sell 10’s of thousands more trucks than Toyota and Ram so ya there should be more used ones. Whata ya say?
You are correct they do.
I went from Toyota to Acura
Trade it in for a Colorado or Frontier!
Both fantastic trucks
Im not moving on from
Now it’s over 100 thousand?
The dealers don't even want them as a trade-in at this point. The hybrids have the same problem.
EDIT: If there is a less than 1% failure rate, why did they recall 100,000 of them? That's WAY more than 1%.
They don't want them on trade as they can not resell them until the recall is done on it and that could be months. They do not want to sit on them.
@@SamkoWorkShop No one even knows whats going to happen.
@VroodenTheGreat thats part of the problem for most owners. They don't know what toyota is gonna do or what the real problem is. Yet toyota has known of this and been dissecting blown tundras since middle of 2022.
If toyota would just come out and tell us the real problem, and say we fixed it this way. And then give a brand new crate motor to anyone with the issue, life would be good and people would be happy. Instead it's all smoke and mirrors and half assery
Does it affect Sequoia?
Not yet it doesn't. At least not according to toyota
@@SamkoWorkShop my Dad just bought a Capstone model. Crossing fingers
@romanmoroni2785 beautiful truck. Statistically he should have zero problems associated with this recall
Wow, would have never believed it. To hear a Stalintis product is the most reliable. Jeep? Still having trouble with this.
Today in 2024 in the pentistar 3.6 has been out 14 years and has 12 million on the road with a less than .05% failure rate making it one of the most reliable motors built today. And being this far into the jl/jt cycle everything else about the is spot on solid.
Save yourself the troubles and sell it
The wait times will be egregious. Only Master techs are approved for this repair and there aren't enough of them to address the volume of repairs coming. Better get out and QUICK. TRADE TRADE TRADE
I don't believe they will replace the all. They will inspect and assess all them repair as needed.
Inspect what?
Toyota Greed
Agreed
How does this count as greed?
Well, thank God for alcohol. Anyway, thanks Samco, for putting this in perspective. Honestly, looking at the big picture (and not to put on a tin foil hat) these CAFE standards have reaked havoc with the reliability of internal combustion engines. I think the eco-nazis are ELATED with these failures with all brands. Here's a data point for you: My 2023 Tundra has 9,600 miles on it and I paid 62,500 (TRD Limited). I looked into trading it in on a Tacoma Sport and they said they would give me 49K. The whole affair makes we want to just grab my 6.5 and bust some hogs.
How crazy is a 13k loss on a toyota only 1 year old. These dealers should be ashamed. Absolutely ashamed.
Put a V-8 in mine and I will be happy
Sure would be amazing
Some people can, but I cant have a new truck at 1-2 yrs old going in for a new engine. It will never, and I say never be put right like assembly at the plant. Sorry. Its a sell as quick as I can
Can understand that.
Toyota is lying about this! That's the bigger issue. It doesn't involve one factory or one model . It is in a design flaw 100%
Agree they sure are not relling us what's really going on
Low quality bearings, oil flow design flaws, too small engine for a big truck, and added turbo for more engine stress, just trade your truck or don’t accelerate fast, don’t load your truck heavy stuff and change oil every 2000 miles.
Lots of apples and oranges comparisons in this video not too helpful really. The data on Broncos for example showing sales post issues is flawed because there was a long wait list to buy. Comparing GM or Ford available used trucks to Tundra is not realistic. They always sell way more so they always have more used available. Not too mention all the trim levels and crazy configurations!!
I leased a 2024 Tundra and now I don’t trust the thing. I have a hunch that Toyota is full of crap. I’m hopping it isn’t a design flaw
If it's a lease you have not much risk and I wouldn't worry. And it's a 24 so very very low change of any issues
Reputational loss is far more expensive than profit loss.......Toyota was always overpriced due to perceived quality (and hence resale).....that ship has sailed.
Tundra's are not Camrys kids.
Very solid point
Don't hop out of the boiler and into a frying pan....
Dealers are getting very aggressive with pricing, here’s an example, dealer will remain anonymous:
Up to $12,000 off 1794 tundras right now! Platinums close to 11k off as well.
I have an extra $1000 off all in stock tundras this month. Can use that and the 1-2k rebate for leasing if you use affinity or ally banks also.
Feel free to say the dealership if you like and trust them! People would live to know. And appreciate the comment.
However word of caution on ally bank leasing. My advise is never use them. We did on my daughters 2021 rav4 and when it wad time to get rid of it there was 5k in equity in it that 4 dealers were willing to give me. Toyota, ford gm and Honda. But ally has a clause that the buy out price is only for me, and if I try to sell it the prices to buy out jumps 6k. That is criminal and unethical. Ally can kiss my butt. I will shout it from the roof tops to avoid that shady company at all costs.
Yours should be fine.
Yeah its fine. 😂
Bums me out when I see comments like this