These Are The FACTS About The Toyota Tundra Engine Recall
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- One week ago, we saw Toyota announce a new recall for some 22/23 Toyota Tundra trucks. Today, we look at the report explaining what happened. At the end, I added some of my thoughts as well.
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Every original tundra owner who bought new should get a lifetime engine warranty. PERIOD!!!
Crate motor and extended warranty at least.
@@jkonquer3853 Crate motors are coming from the same manufacturing process that caused the problem. Remember 2024 Tundras are having engine failures as well.
@@bradbrown7555 Yeah, I mean once they figure it out. They also did hire 300+ employee for engine assembly plant.
That will never happen
If Toyota simply came out, extended the warranty to 120k, and ensured subsequent failures will result in a new engine free of charge this would be a non issue.
But the short block band aid and cowardly silence says it all.
The problem is everyone who owns one of these has lost thousands in resell value now. There is no way I would ever take a chance on buying one of those used.
Exactly, I don't care if they cut prices $20K. Their reliability rating has suffered tremendously over the past few years and it's just not worth risking the high amount of stress.
They won’t lose their value. The 2007 never did and it had engine failures.
The cost to fix this issue is 30k, a bit different from the 2007 issues…
Your absolutely right. No one in their right mind would buy one of these third GEN Toyota tundras after this happening. I just went to the Toyota dealership to trade my 23 platinum with 9k miles & they will only give me 54k after paying 70k. I only Owned it for eight months. That’s a big loss for 8 months of ownership. I went ahead and took the loss and traded it for an older model with a 5.7. I like the one I have now but still really bummed out about my loss
Will the 2100 and back are going to be worth a lot of money
70k for lemons, they should recall the price too 😂
🤣🤣🤣
You are forbidden to talk about this! WE tundra owners will be seen as losers
@@AntNvrtLol 🤣
Try $100,000 to $120,000 in Canada plus all the duties and extra costs involved.
And there she just sits, up against a backlot fence at some boondock dealership feeling sadder than when we first heard Mel Blanc had passed away ... sniff sniff.
That’s all good that there’s gonna be a better Toyota Tundra later down the road. But that still don’t help the fact that I paid over $70,000 for a truck that’s a piece of shit and that’s supposed to be ok. If Toyota is so good about everything they should give everybody their money back that they spent on these trucks. I’m not a happy camper at all.
Have you had issues with yours?
Being reluctant to rev the engine, take it too far off road, and drive 75 on the freeway with your kids in it are all issues.
@Rhinopuddles44 if I can do that in a hunk of junk wrangler and liberty with 200k and not be stranded, while towing going cross country, why can't a new tundra do exactly what you mentioned?
@@quyle9483 ?? the engines are throwing bearings at random with total loss of power.
@@Rhinopuddles44 correct but I love how people are so astonished I drive the least predictable vehicles with original powertrains and abuse them and here toyota built a legend in the past called a Hilux and now we have 2022-2024 $75,000 dollar pickups leaving people stranded while still making car payments. I only refuse to buy toyota because of a cover up that endangered millions of people in 2009-2012 when toyota claimed it was " a sticking accelerator pedal" but I was an automotive tech who was training in advanced diagnostic and I quickly summed up the root cause of issue yet people kept hush hush( that is until recently someone made a video on YT to shed light) about the issue and still continued on with the whole reliability bullcrap. I've done so much work on toyotas and in fact my dad's best friend ran a pretty successful Toyota parts recycling, auto repair and restoration business so I literally grew up on 80s toyotas but I will never consider a toyota product after that incident 15 years ago.
It’s not metal shavings. The Lexus engines are built in Japan. This manufacturing problem spans multiple countries? Bullshit. The problem is a design flaw. It’s a bad design. Get out of these trucks as fast as you can while dealerships will still take them.
Ya, I’m calling bullshit on this shavings thing too!!
Dealers are beginning to not take them
Looking for a 2021-2018 extra cab
Can’t find them and when do they are 50k pluss
Yamaha does all the designing for all Toyota engines as far as I know.
They stamp them Toyota but they ain't. Therein lies the problem.
Just saying' I could be wrong.
What's going on is Toyota is charging ridiculous prices for substandard quality vehicles.
Thankfully, the prices are starting to head south. All we need now are some decent apr deals and we may be in business
@@TundraDude340% for 36 and 2% for 48 is pretty nice
10-4 good buddy. Id love that
@TundraDude34 that's what theyre doing in Texas right now sir
I think almost every company in America is doing that right now lol
I have a 2022 TRD offroad and my VIN is on the list of affected vehicles. I have an occasional rough idle and the truck has stalled a few times. I have no idea if those issues are related but I sure don't have a good feeling about this. If I don't get a new engine I will be ditching that truck and buying something else and I will probably never buy another Toyota.
that sucks man sorry to hear that
I said the same thing about Dodge, Ford, and Chevy. I'm running out of trucks to buy.
Tell them to appraise your vehicle and see what you can get for it on a trade. I traded my 2022 SR5 Tacoma after the rear axle recall for a 2024 Tundra Limited build on 10/23 and keeping a close eye on the oil dipstick levels. So far it has been doing good with 2500+ miles on the odometer.
One thing for sure. Toyota is giving the heads up by advising the owners of the recall on the tundra. Unlike Chevrolet/GM, they are not telling the public about the transmission problems on their silverado. My respect to toyota.
Dude, you rebuild a trans for $4k. A $40k engine replacement is a whole different deal. A deal that could easily bankrupt someone.
@@bobcook8576 yeah while 40-60k sounds bad for transmission longevity, a new tundra engine will hardly make it to 50k. Cost of ownership is like 12 transmissions in 50k vs 1 toyota v6tt lol
@@bobcook8576 it's like 12 transmissions in 50k or 1 toyota v6tt at 50k lol
This is about Toyota…not a Chevy Silverado.
Toyota issued a recall because they know they would get bodied by NHTSA and further media coverage. Their "repair" on the recall is a spit on our face.
no shade the new gen truck, but i am sooo happy i bought my v8 '21 tundra trd pro..
The 21 pro is one of the best ever, and always will be
Make sure that model has a transmission cooler. I heard some later models on 2nd gen don't have them.
@@ironrain1x thanks, i just spec'd out a kit. i didn't know toyota just deleted the cooler quietly for 19-21's. good info.
@laserhazard1130 no problem man, enjoy the truck. Toyota can be an idiot sometimes
I would still be 'whistling past the graveyard' each and every day. Just in case. Touch wood/ spit and hope-to-die stuff! lol
Toyota should just do a life time warranty on this engine if they really think it was just manufacturing debris thing cough 😷 cough bullshit!!!! Thank you for all your information sir 🙏🏽
Mine has a lifetime warranty
I bought a 2022 Tundra...traded an incredible Dodge 3500 for it. I screwed up. Just tried today, after way too many recalls with the last two recalls being quite major, and all the dealership would offer is KBB of $40k.....total BS. I expected Toyota to pitch in something. I have owned two other first year trucks, the Ford EcoBoost AND the Titan (I think in 2005), and both did have a couple recalls, but nothing like what I have dealt with on this truck. Add to it a ton of the small plastic pieces have broken or fallen off.....
I believe I speak for many: Toyota you are on notice with how you handle this engine safety recall. Toyota has to treat the recallees
as Lexus customers and provide loaners for the duration of the new engine swap (not engine rebuilds). Anything less and Toyota will loose our business period! I am beside myself thinking the powertrain isn’t rock solid as had thought, now thinking it could be a huge boat anchor if Toyota mishandles this serious recall.
Wisdom! Buckle up & good luck.
As a Toyota fan boy, you sound like you are sucking up to Toyota. Just stop. I don’t think you understand what most people are feeling about the new Toyota. It is not about the new gen vehicles. It is how they are doing it. Charging $10-15k over what it should have cost, and using cheapest labor and parts resulting in below standard QC. This is the new Toyota, that old Toyota culture you remember is gone. It is about maximizing profit with lowest cost as possible at the expense of you. The reason why people are buying new Tundra is because they are discounting over $10k off msrp and people that have no clue or People like you are buying them right up. This recall is only good thing they have done so far. Now we shall see where it will end up. This is a huge reality check for Toyota and hopefully they learn from their mistakes.
He’s stating facts that Toyota will take care of these recalls. That’s why they offer a limited warranty and extended warranty. For it to be a recall, there has to be enough evidence that these are happening to several early 3rd generation Tundras and that takes time and unfortunately it has to happened to customers who own these trucks. Mr. Toyoda already apologized for some of the unethical practices they are doing back in Japan to pass inspection on some of their Toyota vehicles and I’m pretty sure they will take care of the problem. Your local dealership will take care of you like they should. Just have a civil approach to the situation.
Free unlimited short blocks for everyone! until your warranty wears out, that is...
There is a recall. Warranty has nothing to do with it. You don't need a warranty if there is a recall for the problem.
You do on the “new” engine😂
@@donaldalderman2424 10 or 20 years from now there won't be any way to prove a spun bearing was caused by factory error. This recall is so the dealership can do whatever is needed for your engine to last until the end of the warranty. After the warranty runs out, the best you can hope for is a class action settlement that makes you file a bunch of paperwork in order to get a mileage-pro-rated discount on another short block that comes with a 30 day warranty on the replacement...
You do not want Toyota techs tearing down this engine. There are guys out there on their third short block.
@@donaldalderman2424 When your engine starts rod knocking 10 years from now at 120k miles, will Toyota fix it free of charge?
So Toyota knew there was problems in early 2022. They kept on making the trucks and selling it at high price. I'm kind of happy I sold my 22 after a month and a half. Good luck to you all.
what do you have now?
@@JokerG16 23 ram worlock sit. 5.7. No problems so far. Less sensors. You can see the engine when you open the hood. Also I like the v8 sound😁
Nothing wrong with having an optimistic attitude, but the facts are that Toyota drop the ball and will lose loyal customers for years to come. Toyota was a reliable vehicle brand, but taking short cuts on quality and raising the price on this poor quality product will hurt them for many years. I hope one day I would feel confident enough to reconsider buying a new Tundra. For now, my new HD 2500 6.6 Gas will work.
Enjoy it! And you still have the Shelby, yes?
@@TundraDude34 Yes sir. I will never sell my 2018 350 Shelby. I wish I would have purchased a 350R. My grandkids want me to give them the Shelby when I’m too old to drive. Lol, never too old to drive a Shelby.
My previous vehicle was a hd2500 gasser. Ran like a top for over 250k. Rust took her down. I wish I would’ve bought another rather than my 2023 Trd OR.
Ill add that this is the equivalent of "we've investigated ourselves, and we've found nothing wrong".
Explain. They are recalling their vehicles - sounds like they are saying there was something wrong going on with the manufacture process and are owning it.
Are you kidding me the new tundra is junk. It's has to much plastic ,It looks horrible. The engine isn’t the only problem. A recall for a blown engine. You can’t admit it that from 2022 to 2024 these trucks are junk .
Exactly, junk is the best description
It just looks cheap
I love mine and would buy another. Total confidence in Toyota
Exactly ... they look ok in pictures but are quite ugly in real life.
I like the look of my 2024. As for plastic, unfortunately that is true for all manufacturers.
I like mine and I like the look and it's running great... as for the plastic- good luck getting away from plastic with any truck built in these days.
Toyota has been building engine for almost 80 years, why only happen on V6 twin turbo ?US made Tundra and Japan made LX600 came from 2 different manufacturing facilities, I don’t believe it is debris caused, it is more like design flaws to me.
The cleaning process from both plants mirror each other
2024 are having same engine issues, what not included. Debris is a lame excuse, unless they offer a new crate engine.
Dude...its a design flaw pure and simple. Toyo is trying to cover thier ass. If they admit it was a design flaw they have to replace EVERY engine. This debris nonsense is them trying to get out of that nightmare scenario.
Unfortunately Toyota does not give a sh... about you and your happiness. My 2007 Limited was sent to my local Toyota dealer for the frame recall, they didn't replace it, just sprayed CRC on. I noticed the job started flaking off only weeks after it was done and revealed still completely rusty frame underneath it, which makes me also assume they do not completely clean/treat it before spraying. I've complained to the dealer as well as to the Toyota Corporate and nothing had been done. Before I had a 1995 T100 4x4 for 27 years and it never disappointed my whatsoever. These days Toyota absolutely SUCKS so please don't say loud, it will do everything to make you happy !
Any bearing damage is too much bearing damage... I would want a brand new engine if my truck was involved in this recall, at the very least I would want a transferable extended warranty on the engine for 150,000 miles plus free oil and filter changes every 4,000 miles, that way they can't deny a claim for lack of proper maintenance.
Im with ya
The warranty isn't going to help avoid possible breakdowns, safety issues, and lost resale value. And the stress of riding a time bomb.
@@chuckg6039 The warranty and free oil changes are for trucks with engines that for some reason do not get replaced, this will allow Toyota to monitor the situation and help ensure resale / trade-in values.
Look, Toyota’s not monitoring squat! That’s evident in their very delayed response, 2 years later, to this herculean problem they’ve created! Putting your faith and trust in Toyota at this point is delusional! Even if you’re having no problems, they’ve destroyed your resale value - ref the comment in another post about a guy who took his $70K Tundra back for trade-in & all they’d give him was $54K!
people buying tundras because you can drive them 500,000 miles so warranty for 150,000 is nothing special ... I think Hyundai has 120,000 miles warranty. And the feeling that your truck can blow its engine up at any given time is nerve wracking... Toyota has to address this issue right way! I keep thinking that I drive pos not a legendary reliable Toyota truck...
Where is Mike? Mike Sweers made a lot of videos when the 3rd generation came out and the press lapped it up. Feel like he needs to make a video now detailing all of the issues.
He hasn’t been Tundra chief engineer for a while now.
I got rid of my 23 immediately after the recall (it was on the list) in exchange for a slightly older Tacoma.
I took a loss but the experience so far was just crap:
-I was promised a second key within a month and it took 7.
-The gas tank can catch on fire but we'll fix it some other time
-My trial membership failed after two months and they couldn't figure it out without me constantly pestering them and taking time off to sit with them... Now the engine main bearing?
All this new technology leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I hope it works out better for all of you.
I’m stuck in the spot of “I don’t have any issues and more than likely my tundra will be fine” and “is it worth taking a chance” . More than likely, most people who have a new Gen tundra will be fine but it’s the fact that we all paid a lot of the truck and this recall *seems* like a bigger deal. Buying any new generation vehicle is a risk, but I’ve always trusted Toyota. Kinda annoying but again, I feel like it’ll be fine ? 🤷🏽♂️
The problem is that they’re charging insane prices for these trucks that have tons of problems.
All manufacturers
Tons of problems? Where? Tundradude has had no problems. There's no widespread call for a recall. Toyota is just getting ahead of potential issues.
And the problem is they're letting other countries build their motives
@@sh_twelearnoverlandingThis is about Toyota…
@@thadlm2698When all manufacturers and so many companies are allowed to do it, it’s about much more than Toyota……
so the people with the hybrids got a bad engine but no recall
This recall does not effect the hybrid engines. Just the standard engines.
Oh pls don't go there!
No mentioning any 2024 engine issues either.
Cause dual turbo issues are 'on the way' folks. Just a matter of time.
pop into the garage sometime down the road and take a look at your 'BEAST' with the entire body off of her to change Turbo #2 on it.
That will definitely put a smile on your face. And a big dent in your wallet or credit card. Ooops
Cost?
Who cares, just part of the 'new vehicle experience'
Enjoy it to the fullest.
How can U tow a travel trailer in high summer temps on long camping trips with family and dog(s) and feel comfortable doing so??
This is exactly my concern now...I'm stuck. I can't trade it and I don't want a local kid at my dealer trying to rebuild an engine he has little experience with. This is a bad spot.
Martha!
Let's sell the camper. I have a bad feelin'
Yea they could be like GM and act like the AFM problems and many others do not exist and not recall it
Exactly my 2011 Silverado had 75k on it when one of the lifters failed and seized my engine up called gm after finding numerous accounts of the issue they did everything short of telling me to go fuck myself. Ihave a 23 tundra platinum that as of right now is not under this recall but i still think toyota will manage this issue better than the mexican/canadian/chinese errr i mean american big three 😂😂😂
"flog 'em like a dead mule" Let the next guy change that bad #2 turbo. lol
Please make more videos on all million mile 2nd gen Tundras.😊
Appreciate your time on this. Nice to see the facts in one concise presentation. While I drive a Tacoma and not a Tundra I am always interested in what is going on with Toyota in general. I have been with them since 2006. I simply can't get behind any other company since then. I was due for a new truck now and jumped right on the new 2024 Tacoma. While much of the truck is all new, here again, I have faith in this company and how they do things. For the Tundra owners out there I would be concerned but again, have faith they will take care of you. Unfortunately, this is a complex and costly situation. I would want an answer right away too but it is complicated. I wish the Tundra owners good luck and to have a bit more patience. Again Thanks TundraDude34 for the video.
"All of these pickup trucks are having some kind of problem right now." What does that mean? That all Toyota pickups are having problems? That all manufacturers having pickup problems? I don't think so. GM's pickups are not having these problems. Ford's pickups are not having these problems. On another note, is this a situation where these engines either have machining debris in them or they do not? Or is it a matter of degree, because that would be huge problem since those engines wouldn't exhibit catastrophic failure but rather simply use more and more oil until they fail maybe at 20k miles or 50k miles and certainly sooner than they are intended to last. Toyota has a big problem. Nobody will take a Tundra as a trade in because they don't know if the engine is affected or not. Customers are riding around in a ticking time bomb watching for signs of the engine crapping out. You say it'll all be okay "down the road." If this is a problem that has matters of degree, this gray area will be a nightmare for everyone.
So “American made” engines has ruined Toyotas reputation. So who at the Alabama engine plant decided that a cleaning process could be cut out to save time and money? The problem now is what stooges at the dealership will be replacing these motors? I can assure you when it is done by “work rate” techs under warranty they will be cutting corners. It’s a shame Toyota let Americans ruin their product.
It's a safety recall only, so the hybrid models that can maintain enough power to safely pull over and stop are still affected, but not recalled. BIG PROBLEM! Recalled will probably get more benefits long term like extended warranty and engine replacements, etc...
Engine shavings sticking to the main bearings? How about unintented damaging torque introduced to the bearings due to the ladder design? Dont gun the engine either way
Ty for the info, all the doom and gloom click bait is getting annoying. Loving my 24 lunar rock tundra. 🤘
I wont lie, this has been a rough week. I hate to see the Tundra community so divided. I couldn’t make this video until i saw the report though.
@@TundraDude34 I feel yeah, I was over here shopping for 4Runners 😂
It’s soooo annoying. So overly dramatic acting like the world is going to end. Glad you love your tundra. Test drove a 24 platinum the other day and I loved it 😊
Completely agree. All these overly dramatic videos and people freaking out and selling their trucks. Lol.
Hmmm?
Don't make excuses for Toyota,never should have let the V8 go, irreputable damage to the brand
Bullitt proof eh?
"Where's the beef"? lol
I hate to admit it, but I trust Toyota. I certainly trust them more than any other car company. I have a 22 old school Lexus GX and a 24 LX, so I’m potentially impacted. The twin turbo v6 in the lx is outstanding. Very powerful and torquey. At the end of the day, books are written about Toyota manufacturing and attention to quality. Toyota seems to issue a recall in a pro active manner while others try to avoid it. I think it’s because of Toyota’s reputation for quality that is so very important to them and they try to protect that reputation. Time will tell.
Good information thank you Tundra Dude. It was pretty funny to see guys with UA-cam channels who drive stellantis products bashing toyota reliability 😂
Toyota will make mistakes but they will always have their customers backs during big issues like this. Best thing you can do for any vehicle is a break in oil change at 700-1000 miles and a second at 3000 and then regular changes at 5000. It's interesting to hear whiny people complain about this when the alternative is allowing manufacturing debris to destroy your engine.
Toyota fan-man, engine debris is a BS excuse. You have to question the design of the bottom end of the 3.4, and the new Tacoma 2.4. The two-piece, expanding/contracting aluminum block with a crank bearing placed flush with the front of the engine block may have been a bad design.
That's where I think problems are coming from personally. That or the combination of a poor oiling system design plus a pretty lightweight oil for an engine making this kind of power. Either way, the debris narrative is very sus IMO. I don't buy it.
Dude34. Go back and research the 2022-2024 fuel tank gauges. They don’t work. It’s been 2 years and Toyota can’t even fix a fuel tank and you think the engines will be ok? For almost 2 years I had to track my fuel with pen and pencil and my odometer. Toyota had no fix. Put a piece of tape over your fuel gauge and see how unsafe that can be.
Thats crazy! I actually had another viewer with that issue a year or so ago. Toyota did a buy back
Mark, I think you are being too positive about this issue. This gen Tundra has had a lot of quality issues (seat trim, wind noise, entertainment system issues…). Very unusual for a Toyota vehicle. This engine failure is awful. Dying in traffic is what caused them to do a recall. I do not think it was because it was the right thing to do. A short block being assembled by a tech at a dealer is not acceptable for these like new Tundra’s. All should receive complete crate motors.
If its anything less then crate, consider this the pr disaster of the century.
I am glad they issued this recall since my warranty is up. At least i am covered under the recall.
I believe Toyota will make me hole in the long run. I love my new truck it’s been very reliable.
Damn .... there's some very low milage used 3rd gen Tundra's in Las Vegas for very low $40k. on car gurus.
I got a nice one for $42k, I love it, hopefully Toyota gives me a new motor from this recall
It’s a new model… manufacturing problems are going to happen. There’s probably 30k parts or more in a modern pickup it takes time. The 5.7 was very far from perfect when it came out.. Very Expensive Air injection pump failures widespread.
Not widespread at all. Same for the cam tower leaks and valves dropping as these were just common exceptions. The difference now is that these TTV6 motors are not naturally aspirated. For people who do truck things with their truck no one is taking a chance with these new Tundras.
Should have not messed with a new engine plain and simple.
@@mikehughes8023nah.
@@mikehughes8023lol turbochargers have nothing to do with it
Ford and Gm offer multiple engine choices. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
I bought a 2022 Tundra used, knowing it was getting a new engine
This is my 8th toyota
I'm going to drive it until the wheels fall off
Im so glad I was able to get a '21 Platinum 5.7 right at then end of the 2021 year when all the new TTV6 trucks were hitting the lot. Im sure Toyota will do the right thing and take care of their customer base. They know how loyal we can be when we have a vehicle that we dont have to worry about breaking down randomly.
Nice choice on the 21 platinum!
@@TundraDude34 recently had a 3.5” lift/level kit installed on it along with 17” wheels and 33/12.50 KO2s.
@Ranger4321 dude send a pic! Tundradude34 at gmail dot com
@@TundraDude34 pics sent!
I wonder now, if more people will start changing their oil after the first 1,000 miles after purchasing a new vehicle. I've always had my oil changed after the first 1,000 miles and, I've been driving for 65 years. I've bought two new Toyota's in the last 3 years, a tacoma, TRD off road, and this last January, a off road premium, 4runner. With each of these vehicles, I had to literally, argue, with the Toyota service manager, to have my oil changed. The two, different managers told me, "no need to do that anymore, that's old school". I insisted anyway.
Personally, i will be changing oil every 5k
I always changed my oil at 1000 miles on a brand new vehicle and at 2500 miles for the 2nd oil change.
Every 5000 miles there after.
Cheap ins. I NEVER had an engine problem and all of these vehicles I drove 150,000 - 200,000 + miles before upgrading to a new truck.
There is a reason why Toyota tells new vehicle owners to drive easy and not to tow for the first 500 miles.
They want the engine and transmission to "bed in" before heavy use begins.
During the break in period, there must be some tiny metal fragments in the oil.
Better to change the oil early the first couple of changes to get rid of any contamination.
I have a 22 tundra platinum I just the oil at the 1200mile mark right after the break and then again at 3k and let the dealership start changing the oil at 5k intervals. I’m at 24k now truck runs good smooth and quiet hope it stays that way.
Same//dealer didn't want to change at 5k ...paid outta pocket and insisted !
This is a “my feelings video.” lol. No hard facts
What about the 6 page Toyota report that was the bulk of the video?
I’m driving a 2000 Tahoe w/ 63k original miles. Paid cash when purchased. Looks brand new still. Runs and drives perfect, leather still fresh, cold a/c, 65% left on brakes. All stock. Only repair: fuel pump, EGR valve and Michelins.
I call bs on the machining debris, more like a design flaw.
especially when it doesn't apply to the hybrid model when hybrid motors are having the same issue.
I've seen the dealership near me and it's looks full of Tundra's
Could absolutely be the case. Even a few around me have trouble moving them. Really depends on location. But as i stated to another viewer, these lots are back to pre covid inventory. You will see a lot of Tundras all the time
@TundraDude34 I drive by a Ford dealership on my way to work. It's packed with new trucks. I guess Ford must have a big recall on the F-150, too huh. 😂
I was just about to buy a 24 Limited, but watched a video saying people are starting to see same issues with 24s but Toyota are waiting to re-call 24s as they have to sell the ones on the lots!
I'm signing up for 24 XLT...and will wait until next year for a Tundra..shame..Love the Tundra...!@#$ thanks for all ya do Dude!
Make Toyota affordable again.
MTAA
Toyota has No Fix for this recall .. And with 100K+ in the recall anything they say should be considered suspect, they’re chasing the money with these overpriced 3rd Gens..
I have 23 TRD pro. It just seems like folks are salivating and giddy about Toyota having these issues.
It’s a complete redesign on a new truck. Anyone who knows anything about cars knows that when a new gen comes out, you’re making a purchase with a risk of facing diminished reliability due to a new redesign.
There is a warranty, and a reimbursement plan. My 23TRD is not on this recall, and I’m not sweating a bit. When my warranty is up. I’ll extend it.
Come the 2030s and 40s , we’ll all marvel on how legendary these Tundras are when they are hitting a millions miles again. 😏
Chill.
Possibly gmc denali. I've had 11 tacomas and 1 tundra. I've been a toyota guy since 1997. I just think the prices and quality have horrifically decreased. I don't trust any v6 turbo motor or v4 turbo. Too many things can go wrong with it. You did a good job explaining the recall. I know new motors and new changes will have issues, but I've seen quality decreased with toyota.
I guessed GM for you because of your Gordon profile pic 🤣. Who’s your driver nowadays?
Curious what the difference is between 19000-F4020 and 19000-F4030. The "30" version is listed as superseding the "20" version. A process change to address metal shavings wouldn't warrant a new PN. I suspect there is more to the story. I sold my '17 to get a '22 and boy do I regret it! I appreciate Toyota trying to "do the right thing," but the bottom line is that empathy from a conglomerate won't take away my anxiety on long road trips. They really should offer buyback options or extended warranties on COMPLETE engines. I don't want a new short block every 3 years! If they mess this up they are going to absolutely destroy their reputation. The ONLY reason I bought this truck is perception of reliability.
Thank you for this. It was very helpful. Still try to decide if I want to leave the brand I have supported for 45 years. My confidence is shattered. My Tundra is 2023 TRD Off-Road with almost all options, the TRD lift kit and a TRD Pro grill. I specced it to be my alternative to a TRD Pro when Dealers were charging over MSRP for the Pro. I have around 70k in it and it only has 8k miles on it. Currently, it is lighting up like a Christmas tree with warning lights. The dealer tells me is a sensor that is on backorder for three weeks. They said it is safe to drive, but now I wonder. It was manufactured in mid December so MAYBE it is ok but who knows. Even if they tell me it is ok, I will always be wondering "Is it?". When I get this sensor replaced, I am considering dumping it for another brand . I briefly considered a Tacoma but nixed it. I have just lost confidence in the brand and because of this fiasco our resell value is destroyed. Like @grandpasguitar6119 said below, I do not care about taking one for the team so there will be a better Tundra down the road. Toyota needs to make this right with each of us.
Hey Mark, here George from Miami.......I do believe your word about Toyota want us to be happy, I owned bunch of them, the thing that really bugs me is how TOyota handle the situation from the beginning and every morning when I see my Wife 2023 Sequoia or my 24 Tundra in my drive way make me feel like I want to go back to the toilet and shit again, does not make me sleep better the matter that the Hybrids or 24 models aren't included (obvious reason because will have to stop sales immediately), is a broken relationship that still salvageable only if Toyota do the right thing FOR EVERYBODY, from now on every little problem will be exposed in all social media , still hope Toyota set an example of doing the right thing, not a block.....a crate engine and extended warranty maybe suffice but it will be far from being a NEW vehicle....Thanks Mark TD34 you raise my love for Toyota a little bit.
I certainly only would want a crate engine that is not that model.
My 2022 ford raptor had engine failure at only 9k miles,And it took ford almost 5 months to get it fix,I traded that piece of 💩 for a 2022 TRX,So far I’m happy with my gas guzzler I only drive it on the weekends,I have a 2017 Toyota Camry for my daily.
should have left production in Japan. I love America and my country but before China people are dillusional about Made In USA quality. It was ok but not the thier of Japanese, Korean even Mexico made. Delphi is crap parts in US /Detroit and Honda screwed around and starting using their crap and you cant purchase any Honda now to have an Alternator or Starter last over 150k miles like you could on an 80's/90s Honda.
Wondering how many of these failures were due to the owners NOT changing the original Factory Oil after the first 1000 of break-in miles? I guess that will never be known and if that would have made any difference? What is concerning is that is a SAFETY Recall. I'm in the 'wait and see' mode.
Shit happens with new models, but it sure seems like this particular issue shouldn’t happen for a company that has been building engines for 100 years. Also, I believe Toyota cares about customer satisfaction because it builds loyalty. Unfortunately, the service department where I bought my truck doesn’t really seem to gaf about that. Fair or not, that is where my opinion of Toyota’s level of concern is rooted. They’re all over recalls, but anything warranty related they pretty much just ignore when I go in for service. Same story every time. We don’t have the part but we’ll order it and then I never get a call.
Yeah, but you know, there should be some push back by the automakers....they should just go into the box like cattle. What emissions are the issue? Because, I see CO2 emissions for Ford V8 and Turbo V6 are about the same.... So, is it the amazing NOx emissions? The CO emissions? Or, the dreaded, unburnt HC emissions that are the impetus behind switches. Or is it that the Gov't is simply in disfavor of larger, less-stressed engines and is offering incentives on the smaller engines?
In the last two years there has undergone a vast culture change in Toyota headquarters, Toyota engineering, and Toyota manufacturing. The company today is not the company that produced the Tundra of 2021. They are not the company that produced the 4 Runner of 2024. They are not the company that produced the Tacoma of 2023. The same goes for all the SUVs and sedans that Toyota used to make. Toyota is no longer a conservative design company; they are a progressive design company. This fundamental change in company philosophy is destroying their brand.
If Toyota actually cared about Tundra owners, they would have been sending complete factory fresh crate engines, not telling dealers to tear engines down in service bays and leave engine parts laying everywhere while Toyota does the cheapest possible thing by sending a short block. They wouldn't have waited years to acknowledge the failures. They wouldn't be doing this half-a**ed "safety recall" that excludes so many Tundras. Toyota doesn't give a sht about you or any of us and it's pathtic to see people simp for Toyota like they're a loving parent or somehting. They're making record profits and the best they can do is give you a engine rebuilt by some dealer tech in the service department after you paid $70k for a brand new truck.
This stems from suppliers chain issues not engineering. If you look at the new tundra engine and its design, it is actually a stronger and more robust design than the 5.7L V8. It is also a completely new engine which also came out during COVID, where there was a supply chain shortage- all new engine will have teething problems at first but Toyota stands by their product so they will find a fix and make good by their consumers. Toyota isn't new to having supplier chain issues either- Toyota had a problem with chassis in their first gen Tacoma and Toyota had an open campaign and replaced every chassis with no cost to the client and also did same with Toyota's 2.4L inline 4 cylinder due to low friction piston rings and had an open campaign to replace and rebuild any engine that had them installed from manufacturing.
Once again, Toyota will stand by their product and make it right via their consumer.
I’m not seeing in this report that the cause of the problem is definitely debris in the engine. There’s been speculation on other UA-cam channels that the problem is in the design. One channel compared the design of the 2.7 eco boost showing flaws in the design of the bracing of the main shaft in the Toyota. If this is the issue then simply replacing a flawed engine with another flawed engine is not a solution. I’m not a turbo V6 hater. I would prefer a V8 but I understand why Toyota, Ford long before Toyota and now RAM are building these engines. My question is whether the Toyota engine is an inherently flawed design and not just a flawed manufacturing process? I certainly wouldn’t buy a new Tundra until there are definitive answers on the problems with the engines!
Thank you for this video had to check the date of manufacture of my 2023 1794 - April only a couple months outside the window on this recall. Toyota knows its customers buy their vehicles due to its belief in its reliability. If only a few people can afford these outside of warranty they will loose lifetime customers.
I am already looking to replace my 22 tundra... just for the record my tundra has zero issues but mpg sucks, engine is overcomplicated, lots of cheap plastic... I wanna simple, reliable v8 like old 5.7. It looks like gm 6.6 heavy duty is a good motor.
I really like the look and interior of the 2022+ Tundras. Didn't expect I'd want one until I drove one. Unfortunately Im not confident im making a good purchase amidst thia recall. 😢
My theory is that it has to do with the cast iron bearing caps embedded in the aluminum ladder frame or the new non resin coated metallic bearings themselves. My theory is that the differential thermal expansion of aluminum vs iron is causing the bearing caps to "move" out of tolerance. It starts with just a little play, but that increases over time (just like a small leak always increases over time). Machining debris doesn't explain why the FRONT main bearings are disproportionately effected. Its the ladder frame design. Solution: maybe go back to resin coating? Maybe lose the cast iron caps - stick with 1 material with 1 thermal expansion rate? Thoughts?
Whatever it takes, and quick 😁
Ever seen cast iron cylinder liners in an aluminum engine block?........been around for a while.
@imtheonevanhalen1557 true. but they're cylinders. different shape , different loads. maybe it's not the 2 different metals, but if the problem shows up on a 2024 we'll know the problem isn't machining debris
Toyota is a piece of junk now. Why would you spend all this money on buying a truck and get all these problems? Now, they are cutting the prices of their trucks. What happened to people like me who paid market adjustment prices? I must drive my vehicle a lot to be sure it will break down or not. Transmission jerking, brake noise, and some issues. The resell value has gone down drastically, with a low second-hand value.
So they will fix the issue. That means lifting the cab off the chassis. Taking apart the top end. Installing the bottom end, then putting the top end back together before putting the cab back on. So it's a half rebuilt engine. And you need to hope this goes absolutely perfect. No wires rubbing together and anything els. This is so not right.
I was extremely excited when the new Tundra came out. It's been such a let down. No tow hooks on the front. It's a truck and is a big deal, even for somthing as simple anchoring you ice fishing tent too it is so handy. Not to mention all other stuff you can use them for. A rear bumper you can't even stand on with the tailgate down?
This is not a product Toyota takes seriously. It's to bad.
You said every truck is having issues right now. That’s false. Toyotas are having more issues than any brand it seems. I’ve been in the auto industry for 17 years. I loved my Toyotas but they’re price gouging customers now. I was forced to go and get a Colorado because the Tacoma is overpriced And weak.
Toyota has lost their mojo
Cheap turbo engines
Poor quality
Substantial price increases (Tacoma made in Mexico
Ridiculous dealer markups
On and on
I have owned 8 Toyotas and will not buy another.
Worst part of the recall is the whining people. Holy shit at least toyota is owning up to it and not keeping it a secret. Everyone acts like its the end of the world and i have to trade it back in before it explodes on me! Jesus people just drive the damn thing if you like it. Go ahead and go buy a big 3 truck and get a laundry list of engine recalls instead. Best ones are the complete idiots that are claiming to rush it to the dealership and trade it in for a 16k loss. Unbelievable how some adult babies are taking the news. Now lets here the alpha truck males get butt hurt by me calling you out. Again just drive your truck and stop bitching because it’s probably not even effecting yours.
It wouldn’t matter if the engines were problem free
At some point a twin turbo hybrid V6 is going to cost the owner most likely not the first owner an arm and a leg to keep in the road
But with issues out of the gate
Run and don’t look back
Tundra is done
Stick a fork in it
Toyota has alienated their full size truck base and they won’t get it back
This market was already in danger of extinction
As I have said in the past I believe this tundra was just a placeholder until the truck was dropped all together and that day maybe soon
Sorry bud, Ford issues recalls all the time and their fixes range from adding a "drip tray" to catch fuel to providing a new engine.
Yes the recall is fine but the remedy is the most critical aspect. We all know the shortblock is a bandaid for metal debris that can potentially grenade an engine between now and 10 years down the line. The remedy should have been a new engine.
Toyota did not test the engines before they starting to use them. It is possible that debris from machine work, but transmissions and rear ends are going bad. The design of the main cap assembly is not right for the engine. I have been doing this for 50 years. Toyota needs to put the V8 back in and realize they made a mistake. The only way I would buy a Toyota with this engine is if they gave a lifetime power train warranty or the sold the Tundra for 20,000 dollars.
Obama and Biden have made things so difficult for ICE engines that it gives 😊EV cars future advantage when these very complex ICE drivetrains fail prematurely
The electric push makes sense with the end of the petro dollar on June 9th 2024//research it
Built in Texas. Red state. Shitty quality control regulation. There you have it.
@@daytrading5456 lol fk blue crap detroit, you should move to south side shitcago so you can live in peace and gun free zone.
@@daytrading5456 Live in Blue State. South side Chicago. Gun free zone. Move here and you'll have the peace you seek.
@@daytrading5456 I have a 2013 tundra 230,000 miles and runs perfectly. The technology moved too fast and came to market too quickly obviously combined with poor execution of the wonderful new technology. The cab even had to come off the truck causing huge labor bills for any major repairs. Sad for a company that historically has great customer satisfaction, quality, and high resale values
Thank you for making me feel a bit better about this. So much negativity out there it's refreshing to hear an educated take that isn't just hoping 3rd gens fail.
This seems like a tough one for Toyota. Seems if they don't replace the engine, they'll need to put a lifetime warranty on the engine/trans for those who bought new with this potential problem. At lease Toyota is being transparent and is ahead of the curve to make things right.
I love my 23 tundra SR. !! I believe its out of the scope of time Toyota is looking at, but we’ll see if i get the letter. Thx for the video. And great job on the report 👍
I’m so glad I didn’t get rid of my 2019 limited so what happens if this bearing issue slowly happens and the motor starts rapping after the warranty ur screwed i understand why the market is flooded with used ones people are dumping them
Same theme as the past videos....Toyota lover who is blind by the brand that can't see past the core issue. Toyota is not the same remiable company from years ago anymore. Period.
I do not believe toyota one bit. How can it be that just the crankshaft bearings are going & no other bearing inside the motor. If there's metal debris inside the motor it won't be concentrated to one specific area when the oil is flowing. This makes no sense whatsoever. It seems like more of a design flaw than anything else. It can't be that just the crankshaft bearing are failing.
There are issues with these engines into 2024 too some owners are seeing bad engines more than once. The recall should have replaced the whole motor instead of cobbling the, together.😬👎😊
Thanks for being a voice of reason. As a multiple Toyota vehicle owner I believe in the reliability and this is why I purchased the 2024 Tundra. Inconvenience is just that, but as long as issues arise and they'll stand by the product I'll stand by Toyota.
So far my 2024 Tundra has been solid and have a better chance of a tire blowout than the engine blowing. Enjoy the ride on YT 'sends it' all the time and still in good shape. No fear, this truck is great//fearmongers keep your mask on so you don't ever get sick and lick your dr fraudi idol.
I'm curious how many engine failures have been documented outside these manufacturing dates. Late 23 and 24 models...
And some of the 24s were actually built in 23 like mine I picked up in November 23. 9/23
Toyota identified the batches. They track everything. The hybrid isn't built on the same line either.
Everyone that tries to sell theirs now will take a big hit. I for one will not buy a used 22, 23 or 24 tundra even if it were not recalled. I think the only solution for Toyota is to replace all those engines with new engines.
They had the evidence that there was a problem but never looked at it. They didn't recall the hybrid version because you can still move if the engine takes a dump. That's standing behind your product. I see you drank a batch of Kool Aid before making this video.
No kool aid, i don’t drink sugary stuff. You guys can have your feelings and opinions and so can I. Instead of name calling, lets start to heal the community. Any further reports from Toyota will be reported
@@TundraDude34 I like chocolate milk
@@TundraDude34 Not a good job avoiding the facts I posted. Toyota is a corporation driven by profit just like every other auto manufactirer. They don't care about 'the feels'. I thought you were going to cry at one point. I realize you are trying to make money with your channel and you are trying to save it.
You aren’t wrong. All corporations care about profits. Have a good evening
There’s always room for chocolate milk
So what I'm getting from this video is DON'T buy the new generation Tundra until all the issues are worked out.
They clearly say that the debris contaminated the engine assembly and they are only changing the short block, what a joke. So the other top part of the engine is immune to be damaged. Please.
To me all 22,23,24 are affected, but they still need to sell the 24’s so…..
Also the hybrids are NOT excluded. These 3 years will forever affect the resale value of these trucks. Maybe 2025.
I tried to tell you guys. Toyota has gone backwards. I will keep my lo mile V8 Tundra , thank you.
They should recall them for having shitty remote start, user interface, etc. and terrible MPG.
Have 3 Toyota products in the garage - love ‘em all!! Have vacillated on adding a 4th b/w 2nd & 3rd gen Tundra. This pretty much sealed that decision…’21 all the way👍🏻👍🏻
They want us to be happy. Give us new long blocks or a trade for a 2024 model....