I cant wait for this technology to be improved. We need lab made spicules and the spicules should be made of key skincare ingredients like peptides hyaluronic acid ceramides vitamin c ECT and have them dissolve directly into skin would be an amazing way of delivering ingredients .Let me dream
But the VC Reedle shot's "needles are made of skin care. That's why it's called the VT CICA REEDLE SHOT!. The "needles" are literally made of cica (Centella Asiatica), a calming skincare ingredient that dissolve. So not only are no sea sponge spicules being "jammedd into your skin" , but the "spicules" that are used aren't even spicules. It's pieces of Centella Asiatica that DISSOLVE and will never cause a foreign body reaction. Also, this product is not new, it has been around for a few years, with no one having any kind of foreign body reaction of course. Just because Americans finally discovered it and made it go viral on Tik Tok doesn't make it new. I'm not trying to sound like I'm mad at you or that your comment made me mad or anything like that, but the level of misinformation this guy spewed about this product just because he couldn't be bothered to go on to ANY of the skin care sites and read the friggin DESCRIPTION is so disheartening. He is supposed to be a scientist, a toxicologist, and he couldn't even do the most basic of research. Like, what did he think the CICA in Cica Reedle Shot meant?!
@amypanddirtytoo1926 it’s really weird to come and start attacking me, i am always open for discussion but your attitude and tone seems way offensive, “the fact this toxicologist couldn’t do most basic research to learn what cica in the name of the product” dear you need to calm down, if you look at the ingredients list there is an ingredient called hydrolysed sponge, this the sea sponge body broken down to form this spicules, the active ingredient like cica and HA are loaded on the spicules, even the AD campaigns the brand did with big influencers like james welsh where they provide him with all the information they said (brand) and he said that the delivery system is spicules made of silica, so before commenting on experts video and accusing them of misinformation please do better, learn the topic more and be a decent human that discuss with proper manners with no accusations of my credibility and spreading misinformation, have a good day 🙌
I’m korean one thing people should know is we use this because we don’t really do micro needling in asia so if you use this it is best you don’t do micro needling too also one thing people should know is korean skincare products is generally less harsh than western skincare so make sure after this it is best not to layer on harsh products afterwards but use something smoothing (I had not used to yet but I think maybe I will be interested in the future because this is a newer product and I feel like there is not enough tests done for it now so I think I will wait a bit later if I decide to use it or not
Thank you for sharing your point of view which is super valid because the general approach between korean and western skincare routine is hugely different and applying this product to western skincare routine can increase the risk, thank you for watching ☺️
@@nouramy4038 I have extremely sensitive skin, and have been using this product for months. The results are frankly incredible. But of course, always patch test.
Thank you, this was very helpful. I used the 100 Reedle shot on my forehead only...to see how I would react.and I could see a positive result very quickly. I'd stick to the lowest dose every other day and gently.😊
@@MoskinlabI have been using the 100 for 9 days. I'm worried not to know if the spicules have penetrated my dermis. How do I know if the spicules have gone deep into my skin?
Great video Mo. This product is definitely not for everyone, but it was one of the best things I added to my routine in 2023. I started with the 100 and have gotten to the 700 which I like best as it's a once per week treatment. I used the technology before in the commonlabs spot treatment and was amazing for my acne.
I was waiting for this video! While I wouldn't say that this system is something to be scared of when used sparingly, I'm more surprised there are some 'biomicroneedling' in-office treatments using this delivery system, where the needles are massaged in super forcefully - I would say that those treatments have a higher chance of penetrating to the dermis, and causing that foreign body reaction
Definitely not scary but the risk is way different than other penetration enhancement technologies, for me personally I wouldn’t use it because encapsulation and other formulation technologies can perform well and with much lower number of risks, the image of the in clinic treatment is giving me nightmares and segni the risk is way higher with that 👌🏻
I actually considering this, because it’s from korea, they’ve been using for a decade now and somehow it’s not as well known and also not many studies as well
I appreciate you and other experts sharing an opinion on this product. So many people are raving about the results, but seems like we still have a lot of gaps in safety data.
Thank you for watching and I agree even if the risk is small the consumer has the right to know and of course this is not to spread fear but just a discussion starter 😊
I have reedle shot sitting on my tablet but scare to use because of safety reasons. I am glad I found you video because I am looking for solid research evidence ( not sponsored by company ) .
Thank you for this informative video. I purchased the 100 and 300 and tried them both. While my skin did look better the following day after use, I am not sure that I am willing to keep using a product without confidence in long-term safety, regardless of the aesthetic results.
Thank you for watching and sharing your experience so far, tbh at the end of the day it’s going to be a personal choice and always follow what you feel on topics that there is no definitive answer 🤗🤗🤗
I'm still super hesitant to try this because of the lack of long-term safety studies. It just reminds me of when I accidentally touched fiberglass and got a bunch of uncomfortable fiberglass splinters in my fingers. The spicules don't disolve, so they remind me of how hard it was to pull those splinters out with tape later. Maybe they are different and will be shed later on, but I just don't feel like anyone has used this for long enough to know.
I prefer to wait as well, because it is not an essential product or a medicine that treat a skin condition, at the end of the day it’s a cosmetic product that has alternative on the market that is way safer , thank you for watching and sharing your point of view ☺️
YES, Im worried about the needles traveling into blood stream.....heart, lungs etc. We need longterm research. Im sticking with my Qure home microneedling.
Don’t believe me go watch the people from the brand say they don’t dissolve, if you love this product keep using it, i am highlighting a potential risk that is my job.
This was a tremendously in-depth and one of the most thorough videos ive seen regarding any type of skin consumable product. Loved this type of content!!!
In my case, I received many compliments after 2 months of use. I only use numbers 50 and 100, twice a week. My skin cannot tolerate exfoliants, but VT 50-100 is no problem. The pores are definitely smaller because I used to have acne and have large pores. I will use 50-100 and combine it with HA/PDRN serums instead of trying 300-700. Thank you for your sharing!
I'm Japanese who have been using it almost an year and half. The important thing is that this product has already been sold for two years in Japan and one year in Korea. (Sold out throughout that period) I don't know if there is a difference between Asian skin and Western skin, but no side effects were reported during that period.
Simply saying as another MD 1-2 years isn’t considered long term. If it had been 5 years that would be short. Long term is generally 10 year intervals in terms of data collection & sample size of the group is also important. I note you didn’t give any sources for no side effects reported so it’s hard to qualify that statement. In any case I don’t think 1-2 years is long term data to judge foreign body reaction & long term effects with increasing strength (100, 300, & 700).
Thank you so much. In-depth explanation of the mechanism of its action. I was skeptic to buy this product. But i am going to wait for a while to ensure the safety.
Thank you so much for this informative review. I’m curious and have heard others ask what happens to the spicules? Do they dissolve somehow in your skin? Or remain there for a long time?
They get dislodged from the skin when the skin sheds the dead cells, they don’t dissolve, from the rat study they checked the skin after treatment and the skin was free from spicules after one week
Sorry for my ignorance, if they dislodged, shed off skin after 1 week and doesn't dissolve onto our skin, what is the concern for foreign body object? @@Moskinlab
@@Kaly27827 the force when the product is applied can affect the dislodging if the spicules are too deep passing the SC then the risk of that reaction is hight, also there is a risk of inhalation if you have your face dislodging those microscopic spicules (a point unfortunately I didn’t cover when i made that video) i hope that answer your question 🙏🙏🤗
Fantastic review... to the point and easy to understand.. I was in two minds before I started to use this product.. & let me say it now the I will absolutely not use this product way too much risk to take on..maybe if there is some more data after a few years then can come back to it. Superb video thank you. 😊
Thank you for this in-depth review. I love it when specialists talk about new products and possible risks and benefits. Your video and Dr Dray’s video gave me a full review on the product. I might wait a bit longer before using it for now for a better knowledge about this new tech. It’s been out for around 2 years now, but both of you said it would take more years to know more information about the potential risks of they exist(up to 7 years😮). Thank you again.
thank you for all the hard work put into this video. it's very informative and clear - easy to understand and definitely helped me make up my mind about buying the vt reedle shot. i'll pass for now, i think the hype is blinding a lot of people but if it works for others i'm glad. i'll just stick to my actives, BHA, tretinoin, niacinamide and vitamin C ❤
I assumed that since the Reedle Shot is still relatively superficial despite being “microneedling” in a bottle, there isn’t a major concern. My thought is that the skin sheds the microparticles as our skin naturally sheds over time.
That’s what i am hoping to happen but the data from one study i mentioned is that the pressure during application can push those needles deep enough for a minor but possible risk regarding foreign body reactions. Ofc this data is from animal study just to be clear
@@Moskinlab ah sorry i commented that before watching the full thing! i’m still wary and have been doing in-clinic - just tried aquagold and very excited
I recently started using VT 100 to see if all the hype was true. Most videos I've watched only highlights what a miracle this is. Considering the nature of this product I'm surprised there isn't much information about the cons/side effects. Thank you so much for your valuable input. It gives the customer a choice to decide if this particular kind of product is for them. Will be looking forward to more of your informative videos. Have a great day!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. It's always a good thing to learn as much as we can before we try a new product. I have seen a lot of positive reviews on the product and I must admit that it's tempting but I was asking myself how long I should be using it to maintain the results and what it's going to be like years down the road. It's a fairly new product and I have yet to find long time users who can talk about it so I'm not hopping on that train just yet.
I've been using VT 700 on my face (after trying out VT 300) out of desperation because even the highest percentage bleaching cream wasn't getting rid of hyperpigmentation on one of my temples and PIH from acne in other places. I previously spent $1750 on Halo Laser in February, which left me red and swollen for 4 days with very noticeable improvement after. So, VT 700 has been a blessing for me because it turns my skin into a sponge that readily absorbs actives that could not previously penetrate deep into the epidermis. For me, this product is a life saver and will continue to use it. But VT 700 is strong and when I used it in other parts of my body to target hyperpigmented spots, it caused a rash that I treated with hydrocortisone. So, use this product judiciously and start with the lower doses and build tolerance.
I used 300 needle shot before going to bed. Next morni g i saw a small part of my fave is punctured with small pitted scar. Think caused by the micro needles...😢
This video was so helpful! I’ve literally placed and cancelled the order of the 100 Reedle shot maybe a dozen times. Thankyou for helping me conclude if it’s right for me or not!!!
Thank you for this video! I’ve been waiting to hear your take on this. I’ve been concerned about the foreign body reaction, particularly in the higher concentrations of spicules. The appearance of nodules-and possibly a LOT of them, years later-on the FACE of all places, is a scary thought. I would think there is potential for disfigurement. That alone is enough to keep me from trying it!
@@MoskinlabI’m thinking the same. Even though the risk is low, but the risk is there and the long term risk is who knows 😫 I used both 100 & 300, I could definitely saw the great results, however, I decided to stop using it ☹️
Thanks for your professional answers. I would like to have more data either mostly about what happen during the time spicules remain on the skin before they go away with dead cells..do they cover too much the skin? Or they may occlude pores?
Thanks for the informative video! I've been using this product for awhile and I can see the result on my skin which my skin texture got much better! It's good to know that the main ingredient does not reach the dermis.
Loved this video. In my opinion the risk of these needles being stuck into the skin is too high. Can anyone remember the last time you got a wood-needle in your finger from a broken piece of wood and was nearly impossible to be removed? Same idea to me, but on a scale invisible to the eye. Plus it's silica. It's inorganic, like a stone, is going nowhere. Will the natural epidermal daily exfoliation be enough for it to be "ejected" before the occlusion defensive process occurs? We do not know it yet. The risk-benefit is very imbalanced toward the risk in my opinion. Not worth it.
I have very sensitive skin and just like the poster who mentioned fiberglass, the splinter analogy is a ridiculous false equivalency. "Foreign body reaction" with this product is not a concern because they don't, can't, penetrate deeply enough and are sloughed off with normal skin growth.
@jacobus57 there are literally no studies on long term safety how can you make this bold statement that they won’t, I provided a study in vivo (animals) where the application method affects how deep those spicules get jammed, the lack of evidence doesn’t mean this product is safe long term, you are based on idea that the dead skin cell will push out those spicules when they fall off and i am basing my idea on the idea that is introducing foreign objects to your skin increase your risk of foreign body reaction, why your is valid and mine not, i provided an animal study that shows increased pressure during application make the spicules go deeper, cite me a study that support your idea and stop just saying baseless claims
I used the 100 a few days ago. It worked quite nicely on me. My skin looked and felt so much smoother and more even toned the next morning. After watching this video, I don't think I'll be using it more than twice a week.
The main risk as Dr Mo says is that nobody knows where the spicules go because they are not biodegradable. There is no data on what happens to the pickles that have been applied in droves to the skin!!! I don’t care how smooth it might make my skin, I wouldn’t risk the product as much as touching my skin. Dr Dray who is also excellent in her knowledge of skin structure and ingredients has an excellent video on this product. Great video Dr Mo - I will definitely subscribe to your channel. Thank you!
Thank you so much for watching and for sharing your opinion, i really like and appreciate comments like this that can start a needed discussion about a topic so thanks again and welcome to our community 🎉❤️
Hi Mohammed, is the technology VT micro spear use the same as what Cell Story use? They refer to it as the newest form of mesotherapy, liquid microneedling.
The longer you use this product the more silica barbs will be stuck in the skin, this must be problematic long-term, unlike the skin peel and the facial scrub that can easily be removed.
This delivery system is new to me, and I'm very surprised, like "why would people use marine sponge spicules to puncture their skin on purpose"-surprised. Could the micro-damage caused by the abrasion increase penetration because of a loosening of the epidermis due to the release of proinflammatory cytokines that should facilitate the movement of our immune cells? Has the pro-inflammatory action been tested, like the release of interleukins and TNFa?
One rat article investigated erythema and as well immune cell infiltration to the skin and found no change between treatment and control groups but this article was the LinkedIn one so let’s take it with grain of salt. Plus people will do anything to make skincare work harder I guess 😆🥹
Some increase of expression of pro inflammatory markers is acceptable but with treatment that cause physical changes this change need to be very minimal 👌🏻
I’m so glad I watched your video. I was initially interested in this product but think I’ll pass on it. Not enough data for me to take a chance on. Very helpful information. Thank you.
From what little I know about skin biology, it definitely doesn’t seem very safe 😂 especially when things like micro-needling are so carefully controlled and allow for a much longer downtime/healing process. so thank you for making this video, I was curious about it.
I just got this product and I am skeptical to try it. It is weird to me that so many companies would put these kind of products out there when there’s not enough research done. VT cosmetics is not the only company selling these spicules, medicube, isntree, etc also sell products with this ingredient. I don’t know if I should give it a try or return it at this point. I am worried it will cause issues long term…
Hi Mo, excellent video. I have a 300 and I’m still staring at the bottle to return or keep. You mentioned on the fact the penetration should just be on the epidermis and unless excessive pressure is applied then it may impact the dermis too. Is there a chance granulomas can be avoided if the product is applied with gentle pressure and also less frequently example: twice a week
I used it once and am now paranoid. I threw it out. Would the risk be fairly low for one time use? I also applied after using an essence so hope that buffered
That’s my concern. I’ve used the 50 one and made my skin look so good; but I have a family history with lung problems/ diseases so I decided to stay away from it until I read more data about it
Thank you for this!! Do you know how this is different from more intense spicule “peels”? I’m thinking of the “no chemical” green peel that is supposedly a spicule peel. People experience intense peeling from it but it doesn’t have any acid
One of my derm friends told me about this in the comments and I believe the in clinic one will be more intense and definitely has more risk with because I was told that they use a lot of force when applying this treatment 😅
@@Moskinlab I first saw and heard of the green peel over a year ago from a friend in esthetics school. She had it done and mentioned that it felt like the equilibrium of rubbing glass into your face. Sounded like a bad idea to me 😧😵💫
I've received this treatment, it do in face while feel sand paper rubbing against your skin, I guess microneedling is less painful because of numbing cream, so far the result work well for acne prone skin, less breakout, im not sure about Deep scaring yet, but some of the customer do see alot of different with their scaring.
I am so sorry about your experience 🥹 unfortunately testing new delivery technology can be a problem for some, i always suggest a patch test when you introduce a new product to your routine
Thank you for this video! My question is : do they dissolve over time? Cause if they don't it's a problem, do they pile up under the skin??? if yes what happen after months of use... where do they go?
From animal studies we have, on similar delivery systems made with sponge spicules, after 1 week the skin was free from those micro needles, so it takes around 1 week technically for those needles to shed with the skin and no they don’t dissolve unfortunately, thanks for watching 💕
The company actually said in their website the it stays for 72hrs before it shed in your skin while doing your usual washing routine. This product is korean brand so I hope they will translate this for international buyers. Also this procedures are already popular 10years ago in South Korea.
The will come off as the skin sheds. It doesn't penetrate deep into the skin only the upper layer. There is an interview with a brand rep who explained it on UA-cam.
The company say it last 3 days on the skin after usage and some studies (animal studies) show it last a week after usage, it doesn’t dissolve it just shed off with dead skin cells
I am so sorry about your experience and thank you for sharing it, that’s why I exactly always recommend patch testing before incorporating a new product 😊
Hi there. I have hypertension and I honestly don't know why but when I was putting this reedle shot 100 today my BP shot up and I had to take my meds and wash the product off my face
I am sorry to hear this, was there any pain after application in the skin? Because sometimes pain can increase blood pressure, please talk to your physician about this and speedy recovery 💕
I LOVE the VT Reedle shot (I use the 300). Baby smooth skin, reduces redness, and zero irritation (and I have sensitive rosacea prone skin). I much prefer it to chemical exfoliators, which I’ve always found to be somewhat irritating. The Reedles are Microscopic, and the cream does not have any particles in it that you can feel. It also sinks into the skin fairly quickly, so I doubt it’s possible to do damage by “scrubbing too hard”. Obviously, it’s not for everyone. And I can totally understand some folks being hesitant to try it. But there’s a reason it’s a viral product, and that’s because it works really well. I’ve tried a ton of skincare, and this has impressed me most in terms of living up to its claims. I think the main risk is that, because the Reedle Shot IS so effective, some people might be tempted to use the product improperly or too frequently. And, obviously, that would be an issue. But those are the same “more is better” people who think aggressive exfoliation or excessive AHA/BHA use is a good idea…
I am so glad it worked well for you and yes it is not for everyone and because it’s kinda a new technology we would to see more data regarding safety, efficiency wise it seems very promising, keep us posted on your experience with it on the long run ☺️ thank you for watching
Thank you for this video, Mo! If, as you said, the spicules don't reach the dermis, won't they just get sloughed off during desquamation? So there shouldn't be a foreign object reaction because - no foreign object? 😂
Yes that is possible but depends on application pressure which can vary from person to person and also the supplier of those micro needles because dimensions can vary as well 😩
Checking FAQ on VT website, says that the spicules will just fall off with dead skin, which was what Dr. Dray said would "probably" happen in theory too. But they didn't include any studies or source for this claim, and they didn't mention any risk of silica granuloma. Also reading some blogs some people say they could feel an uncomfortable tingling and needles even after washing off the product and after a few weeks of stopping the usage
@AdrianMartinez-cb5zi “Feeling” needles a few weeks after use is just them psyching themselves out because they heard “horror” stories about it. These are people that are easily susceptible to suggestion. I bet a billion bucks that if such people never heard anything negative about the product they would keep using it and not “feel” any needles for weeks afterwards 🙄
@@ChelseaChfy-ex1po Yes! You’re right! there are people susceptible to suggestion. But you don’t need to hear or feel anything negative now by using the product because is proven that the condition of foreign-body (silica) granuloma can take years to appear, you can use the product in your 20’s without side effects and foreign-body (silica) granuloma may appear in your 50’s, 60’s… In the FAQ’s the VT brand itself says that spicules fall off with dead skin, and the concerns of Dr. Dray are that they don’t provide the studies and sources to make that claim; the risk of developing foreign-body (silica) granuloma in the future. The studies and results provided are more focused on the positive results and don’t include any info about what happen with the spicules at the end. So, if we applied the product daily, how we can be sure and trust that 100% of spicules applied fell off and some percentage didn’t penetrate the skin during the process?
@@ChelseaChfy-ex1po Yes! You’re right! there are people susceptible to suggestion. But you don’t need to hear or feel anything negative now by using the product because is proven that the condition of foreign-body (silica) granuloma can take years to appear, you can use the product in your 20’s without side effects and foreign-body (silica) granuloma may appear in your 50’s, 60’s… In the FAQ’s the VT brand itself says that spicules fall off with dead skin, and the concerns of Dr. Dray are that they don’t provide the studies and sources to make that claim; the risk of developing foreign-body (silica) granuloma in the future. The studies and results provided are more focused on the positive results and don’t include any info about what happen with the spicules at the end. So, if we apply the product daily, how we can be sure and trust that 100% of spicules applied fell off and some percentage didn’t penetrate the skin during the process? Think about chemical filters in sunscreens. Some chemical filters that are supposed to stay on top of your skin according to studies can be found in bloodstream and urine. How we can be sure that spicules didn’t penetrate the skin and develop foreign-body (silica) granuloma in the future?
beyond safety which seems questionable, is it effective? how could one be certain about the position of those needles? I so wanna hit unfollow on every account I see promoting this serum ignorantly...
The studies on this delivery system all showed promising results but the issue with this delivery system is something similar to plant extracts each supplier might produce different size of micro needles which means differ efficacy and safety profile, also a couple of studies used those needles with the conventional delivery systems like liposoms and encapsulation so the added benefit of those needles could be be a tiny boost 🤷
@@Moskinlab thank you for replying but drinking water thing really worries me. that is a human risk. we already have issues in our water system. all those polyester or nylon garments we wash, those tiny micro fibers are not getting filtered and we are basically drinking those fibers. we are suppose to wash them in a special wash bag but i highly doubt people know about this.. anyway thank you.
I don’t have information about this but i can imagine imagine outcome could be terrible since people reported burning and tingling when applied on skin so I beloved eyes would be worse
I just watched this after watching Beauty Within review that product and Dr. Dray sorta review. Your video was much much more informsive than Dr. Dray and she didnt mention that rat study at all that i can recall. Only a pig one.
Im surprised that its a Korean product. Korean skincare was perceived (by me) to be focused on long term goals using gentle ingredients. This stuff sounds like the exact opposite of this
This!! These types of semi-intensive 'treatment' products were always lacking in Korea's skincare offerings. They don't even allow high percentage BHAs! Not at all a bad thing, but apparently Korean consumers never knew they needed it until this reedle shot stuff blew up... Doesn't help that K-beauty is very heavy on overconsumerism. They'll make products of all imaginable textures and ingredients and formats, and there will be money spent on PR, and influencers ready to promote anything, and consumers primed with fomo constantly chasing new things...
We should always take brands claims with a pinch of salt, I provide the literature available data for a similar delivery system, the risk is there but jot significant and i made it clear in the video 🙌❤️
@@Moskinlab yeah I know , but a lot of people especially dr dray she started yapping about how they don’t leave the body and all of that and I find it very misleading cause the brand made it clear If they had done the research on a human using this specific product then yes they have a point otherwise they have nothing to prove This is not towards you I’m talking about most influencers and doctors on social media click baiting for views
I totally understand you, that’s why i wanted to discuss it from risk point of view, i wanted to let the public know about the possible risk and let them have the information to form an informed decision, it’s always about risk benefit and i agree some people (derms and influencers) used click bait titles and a little bit of fear, i hope my video didn’t convey this because i tried my best to select my words carefully. But at the end i really hope they did a proper risk assessment for this product and have the data (even if not shared) to show the risk is low or insignificant ❤️
This might be weird to say, but I don't think your thumbnails are doing you any favors. This is the first video I watch from you and you seem very kind, informative and honest, which is great! Your face in your thumbnails looks kind of aggressive, like your looking for a fight, and I don't think it will attract the kind of viewers that would appreciate your content In any case, thanks for doing all this work, and good luck!
Thank you for your comments and i appreciate your feedback, yes i am not the best with these kind of things so every once in awhile i try to change my thumbnail but note taken 🙏
I feel like this is the most transparent skin related video I've seen in yearsssss, holy moly.
Thanks!!
I cant wait for this technology to be improved. We need lab made spicules and the spicules should be made of key skincare ingredients like peptides hyaluronic acid ceramides vitamin c ECT and have them dissolve directly into skin would be an amazing way of delivering ingredients .Let me dream
Me too, there are some dissolving needle like delivery systems like the ones you can find on a brand of pimple patches
But the VC Reedle shot's "needles are made of skin care. That's why it's called the VT CICA REEDLE SHOT!. The "needles" are literally made of cica (Centella Asiatica), a calming skincare ingredient that dissolve. So not only are no sea sponge spicules being "jammedd into your skin" , but the "spicules" that are used aren't even spicules. It's pieces of Centella Asiatica that DISSOLVE and will never cause a foreign body reaction. Also, this product is not new, it has been around for a few years, with no one having any kind of foreign body reaction of course. Just because Americans finally discovered it and made it go viral on Tik Tok doesn't make it new. I'm not trying to sound like I'm mad at you or that your comment made me mad or anything like that, but the level of misinformation this guy spewed about this product just because he couldn't be bothered to go on to ANY of the skin care sites and read the friggin DESCRIPTION is so disheartening. He is supposed to be a scientist, a toxicologist, and he couldn't even do the most basic of research. Like, what did he think the CICA in Cica Reedle Shot meant?!
@@Moskinlab This product's "spicules" are made of cica (Centella Asiatica) that DISSOLVE
@amypanddirtytoo1926 it’s really weird to come and start attacking me, i am always open for discussion but your attitude and tone seems way offensive, “the fact this toxicologist couldn’t do most basic research to learn what cica in the name of the product” dear you need to calm down, if you look at the ingredients list there is an ingredient called hydrolysed sponge, this the sea sponge body broken down to form this spicules, the active ingredient like cica and HA are loaded on the spicules, even the AD campaigns the brand did with big influencers like james welsh where they provide him with all the information they said (brand) and he said that the delivery system is spicules made of silica, so before commenting on experts video and accusing them of misinformation please do better, learn the topic more and be a decent human that discuss with proper manners with no accusations of my credibility and spreading misinformation, have a good day 🙌
I’m korean one thing people should know is we use this because we don’t really do micro needling in asia so if you use this it is best you don’t do micro needling too also one thing people should know is korean skincare products is generally less harsh than western skincare so make sure after this it is best not to layer on harsh products afterwards but use something smoothing (I had not used to yet but I think maybe I will be interested in the future because this is a newer product and I feel like there is not enough tests done for it now so I think I will wait a bit later if I decide to use it or not
Thank you for sharing your point of view which is super valid because the general approach between korean and western skincare routine is hugely different and applying this product to western skincare routine can increase the risk, thank you for watching ☺️
I agree with y , me too I am waiting a lill bit to see ppls experience before I jump into it
Did you try it now?
@@nouramy4038 I have extremely sensitive skin, and have been using this product for months. The results are frankly incredible. But of course, always patch test.
Thank you, this was very helpful. I used the 100 Reedle shot on my forehead only...to see how I would react.and I could see a positive result very quickly. I'd stick to the lowest dose every other day and gently.😊
I am so glad it is working for you, keep us posted of long term results ❤️
Literally the same, except I used it on my cheeks. A day and a half later I saw definitive results!
@@MoskinlabI have been using the 100 for 9 days. I'm worried not to know if the spicules have penetrated my dermis. How do I know if the spicules have gone deep into my skin?
I just used it for the first time last night. I got the 100. I plan on every other day too! I’m hoping for great results 🥹☺️
@@koyhi2215You can have a scan on the face,it shows everything
Great video Mo. This product is definitely not for everyone, but it was one of the best things I added to my routine in 2023. I started with the 100 and have gotten to the 700 which I like best as it's a once per week treatment. I used the technology before in the commonlabs spot treatment and was amazing for my acne.
Thank you so much 🥹 yes i agree it’s a promising technology and i second your opinion that it is not for everyone for sure 🤗🤗
I was waiting for this video! While I wouldn't say that this system is something to be scared of when used sparingly, I'm more surprised there are some 'biomicroneedling' in-office treatments using this delivery system, where the needles are massaged in super forcefully - I would say that those treatments have a higher chance of penetrating to the dermis, and causing that foreign body reaction
Definitely not scary but the risk is way different than other penetration enhancement technologies, for me personally I wouldn’t use it because encapsulation and other formulation technologies can perform well and with much lower number of risks, the image of the in clinic treatment is giving me nightmares and segni the risk is way higher with that 👌🏻
I actually considering this, because it’s from korea, they’ve been using for a decade now and somehow it’s not as well known and also not many studies as well
I appreciate you and other experts sharing an opinion on this product. So many people are raving about the results, but seems like we still have a lot of gaps in safety data.
Thank you for watching and I agree even if the risk is small the consumer has the right to know and of course this is not to spread fear but just a discussion starter 😊
I'm so glad that I've found your chanel! Such an honest opinion with a good evidence base. Please, keep going!
Thank you! Will do!🥹🙏🙏🙏
I have reedle shot sitting on my tablet but scare to use because of safety reasons. I am glad I found you video because I am looking for solid research evidence ( not sponsored by company ) .
It’s an interesting and promising delivery system but definitely more safety data is required 😊
Thank you for this informative video. I purchased the 100 and 300 and tried them both. While my skin did look better the following day after use, I am not sure that I am willing to keep using a product without confidence in long-term safety, regardless of the aesthetic results.
Thank you for watching and sharing your experience so far, tbh at the end of the day it’s going to be a personal choice and always follow what you feel on topics that there is no definitive answer 🤗🤗🤗
I'm still super hesitant to try this because of the lack of long-term safety studies. It just reminds me of when I accidentally touched fiberglass and got a bunch of uncomfortable fiberglass splinters in my fingers. The spicules don't disolve, so they remind me of how hard it was to pull those splinters out with tape later. Maybe they are different and will be shed later on, but I just don't feel like anyone has used this for long enough to know.
I prefer to wait as well, because it is not an essential product or a medicine that treat a skin condition, at the end of the day it’s a cosmetic product that has alternative on the market that is way safer , thank you for watching and sharing your point of view ☺️
YES, Im worried about the needles traveling into blood stream.....heart, lungs etc. We need longterm research. Im sticking with my Qure home microneedling.
They do dissolve. Comparing to fiberglass, to which most people are very sensitive because it's GLASS, is the very definition of raise equivalency.
Don’t believe me go watch the people from the brand say they don’t dissolve, if you love this product keep using it, i am highlighting a potential risk that is my job.
@@kh2536 They can't make it to the blood stream. They aren't capable of going that deep into the skin to get to capillaries or larger blood vessels.
very clear. upfront and unbiased review. great content. I have subscribed to your channel to get more useful information. Thank you !
This was a tremendously in-depth and one of the most thorough videos ive seen regarding any type of skin consumable product. Loved this type of content!!!
In my case, I received many compliments after 2 months of use. I only use numbers 50 and 100, twice a week. My skin cannot tolerate exfoliants, but VT 50-100 is no problem. The pores are definitely smaller because I used to have acne and have large pores. I will use 50-100 and combine it with HA/PDRN serums instead of trying 300-700. Thank you for your sharing!
I'm Japanese who have been using it almost an year and half. The important thing is that this product has already been sold for two years in Japan and one year in Korea. (Sold out throughout that period) I don't know if there is a difference between Asian skin and Western skin, but no side effects were reported during that period.
Hello. Where can I get it in japan??
Yea I been using it too no problems
😂 few years is nothing
@@Tabassumchaity-w8fin donki they have
Simply saying as another MD 1-2 years isn’t considered long term. If it had been 5 years that would be short. Long term is generally 10 year intervals in terms of data collection & sample size of the group is also important. I note you didn’t give any sources for no side effects reported so it’s hard to qualify that statement. In any case I don’t think 1-2 years is long term data to judge foreign body reaction & long term effects with increasing strength (100, 300, & 700).
Amazing!!!! Very informative. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much. In-depth explanation of the mechanism of its action. I was skeptic to buy this product. But i am going to wait for a while to ensure the safety.
Thank you so much for this informative review. I’m curious and have heard others ask what happens to the spicules? Do they dissolve somehow in your skin? Or remain there for a long time?
They get dislodged from the skin when the skin sheds the dead cells, they don’t dissolve, from the rat study they checked the skin after treatment and the skin was free from spicules after one week
@@Moskinlab Ah, animal cruelty. That's all I needed to know. Thank you, saves me time researching this.
The product wasn’t tested on animal as i am aware but similar delivery system sponge spicules were tested on animal 🤗
Sorry for my ignorance, if they dislodged, shed off skin after 1 week and doesn't dissolve onto our skin, what is the concern for foreign body object? @@Moskinlab
@@Kaly27827 the force when the product is applied can affect the dislodging if the spicules are too deep passing the SC then the risk of that reaction is hight, also there is a risk of inhalation if you have your face dislodging those microscopic spicules (a point unfortunately I didn’t cover when i made that video) i hope that answer your question 🙏🙏🤗
Fantastic review... to the point and easy to understand.. I was in two minds before I started to use this product.. & let me say it now the I will absolutely not use this product way too much risk to take on..maybe if there is some more data after a few years then can come back to it. Superb video thank you. 😊
Thank you for this in-depth review. I love it when specialists talk about new products and possible risks and benefits. Your video and Dr Dray’s video gave me a full review on the product. I might wait a bit longer before using it for now for a better knowledge about this new tech. It’s been out for around 2 years now, but both of you said it would take more years to know more information about the potential risks of they exist(up to 7 years😮). Thank you again.
thank you for all the hard work put into this video. it's very informative and clear - easy to understand and definitely helped me make up my mind about buying the vt reedle shot. i'll pass for now, i think the hype is blinding a lot of people but if it works for others i'm glad. i'll just stick to my actives, BHA, tretinoin, niacinamide and vitamin C ❤
My pleasure always, i am glad my video was able to help 🥹 and i took the same decision i will stick with the known actives 👌🏻
oh we have very similar skincare line, but instead of BHA I use PHA. amazing
I assumed that since the Reedle Shot is still relatively superficial despite being “microneedling” in a bottle, there isn’t a major concern. My thought is that the skin sheds the microparticles as our skin naturally sheds over time.
That’s what i am hoping to happen but the data from one study i mentioned is that the pressure during application can push those needles deep enough for a minor but possible risk regarding foreign body reactions. Ofc this data is from animal study just to be clear
@@Moskinlab ah sorry i commented that before watching the full thing! i’m still wary and have been doing in-clinic - just tried aquagold and very excited
Ah no worries, thanks for sharing your experience please update us on the results 🤗
I recently started using VT 100 to see if all the hype was true. Most videos I've watched only highlights what a miracle this is. Considering the nature of this product I'm surprised there isn't much information about the cons/side effects. Thank you so much for your valuable input. It gives the customer a choice to decide if this particular kind of product is for them. Will be looking forward to more of your informative videos. Have a great day!
Thank you so much for watching and joining our small community, yes empowering the consumer is my goal with accurate and digestible information💕
I like your new settings and background 😊 Thank you as always for the informative content 😊
Glad you like them!💕
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. It's always a good thing to learn as much as we can before we try a new product.
I have seen a lot of positive reviews on the product and I must admit that it's tempting but I was asking myself how long I should be using it to maintain the results and what it's going to be like years down the road.
It's a fairly new product and I have yet to find long time users who can talk about it so I'm not hopping on that train just yet.
I've been using VT 700 on my face (after trying out VT 300) out of desperation because even the highest percentage bleaching cream wasn't getting rid of hyperpigmentation on one of my temples and PIH from acne in other places. I previously spent $1750 on Halo Laser in February, which left me red and swollen for 4 days with very noticeable improvement after. So, VT 700 has been a blessing for me because it turns my skin into a sponge that readily absorbs actives that could not previously penetrate deep into the epidermis. For me, this product is a life saver and will continue to use it. But VT 700 is strong and when I used it in other parts of my body to target hyperpigmented spots, it caused a rash that I treated with hydrocortisone. So, use this product judiciously and start with the lower doses and build tolerance.
I am so glad the product worked So well for you, thank you for sharing your experience with everyone 🙌❤️
I used 300 needle shot before going to bed. Next morni g i saw a small part of my fave is punctured with small pitted scar. Think caused by the micro needles...😢
Oh i am so sorry about this, if you are having a bad reaction please stop the usage
I also had a terrible reaction to this product and no one is really talking about it online! Everyone keeps hyping it!
I'll pass on this product for now. maybe I'll revisit it in a few years. Thanks for your review.
Yep i am not willing to try it either 🤔
What a great video. Thanks. Appreciated, you use evidence based information. New subbie here. I’ll share your videos and channel with all my friends.
This video was so helpful! I’ve literally placed and cancelled the order of the 100 Reedle shot maybe a dozen times. Thankyou for helping me conclude if it’s right for me or not!!!
Thank you for this video! I’ve been waiting to hear your take on this. I’ve been concerned about the foreign body reaction, particularly in the higher concentrations of spicules. The appearance of nodules-and possibly a LOT of them, years later-on the FACE of all places, is a scary thought. I would think there is potential for disfigurement. That alone is enough to keep me from trying it!
Personally I would not use it, we already have some nice delivery systems in cosmetics and although the risk can be low I don’t intend to test it. 😅
@@MoskinlabI’m thinking the same. Even though the risk is low, but the risk is there and the long term risk is who knows 😫 I used both 100 & 300, I could definitely saw the great results, however, I decided to stop using it ☹️
Thanks for your professional answers. I would like to have more data either mostly about what happen during the time spicules remain on the skin before they go away with dead cells..do they cover too much the skin? Or they may occlude pores?
Thanks for the informative video! I've been using this product for awhile and I can see the result on my skin which my skin texture got much better! It's good to know that the main ingredient does not reach the dermis.
I am so glad the product is working well for you ☺️, thank you for watching and supporting 😊
Loved this video. In my opinion the risk of these needles being stuck into the skin is too high. Can anyone remember the last time you got a wood-needle in your finger from a broken piece of wood and was nearly impossible to be removed? Same idea to me, but on a scale invisible to the eye. Plus it's silica. It's inorganic, like a stone, is going nowhere. Will the natural epidermal daily exfoliation be enough for it to be "ejected" before the occlusion defensive process occurs? We do not know it yet. The risk-benefit is very imbalanced toward the risk in my opinion. Not worth it.
I have very sensitive skin and just like the poster who mentioned fiberglass, the splinter analogy is a ridiculous false equivalency.
"Foreign body reaction" with this product is not a concern because they don't, can't, penetrate deeply enough and are sloughed off with normal skin growth.
@jacobus57 there are literally no studies on long term safety how can you make this bold statement that they won’t, I provided a study in vivo (animals) where the application method affects how deep those spicules get jammed, the lack of evidence doesn’t mean this product is safe long term, you are based on idea that the dead skin cell will push out those spicules when they fall off and i am basing my idea on the idea that is introducing foreign objects to your skin increase your risk of foreign body reaction, why your is valid and mine not, i provided an animal study that shows increased pressure during application make the spicules go deeper, cite me a study that support your idea and stop just saying baseless claims
@@Moskinlabamen
I used the 100 a few days ago. It worked quite nicely on me. My skin looked and felt so much smoother and more even toned the next morning. After watching this video, I don't think I'll be using it more than twice a week.
Explained so well, thank you very much
The main risk as Dr Mo says is that nobody knows where the spicules go because they are not biodegradable. There is no data on what happens to the pickles that have been applied in droves to the skin!!! I don’t care how smooth it might make my skin, I wouldn’t risk the product as much as touching my skin. Dr Dray who is also excellent in her knowledge of skin structure and ingredients has an excellent video on this product. Great video Dr Mo - I will definitely subscribe to your channel. Thank you!
Thank you so much for watching and for sharing your opinion, i really like and appreciate comments like this that can start a needed discussion about a topic so thanks again and welcome to our community 🎉❤️
Emm got one today, should have done more research beforehand. Seeing foreign body reactions takes years to show, I would maybe put off trying this
You explained this very well! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
love your explanation. easy to understand and therefore make the most informed decision. thankyou so much
You're very welcome!😊
I think I'll pass atm. I agree with what you said about penetration enhancing being a double edged sword.
I will be doing the same, thank you for watching 😊
Interesting! Thanks for explaining Mo!
My pleasure ☺️
Thanks for all your informative videos
I have Rosacea and thin skin so this product doesn’t sound good for me🤗
My pleasure and yes avoiding formulations that stress the barrier for people with rosacea is a good approach ☺️😊
Hi Mohammed, is the technology VT micro spear use the same as what Cell Story use? They refer to it as the newest form of mesotherapy, liquid microneedling.
Amazing info. I hope you find great success
Thank you! You too!
The longer you use this product the more silica barbs will be stuck in the skin, this must be problematic long-term, unlike the skin peel and the facial scrub that can easily be removed.
That’s an interesting point, thank you for sharing ☺️
Vt staff staff explained the spicules will be auto removed by shedding dead skin cells which is every 3 days.
This delivery system is new to me, and I'm very surprised, like "why would people use marine sponge spicules to puncture their skin on purpose"-surprised.
Could the micro-damage caused by the abrasion increase penetration because of a loosening of the epidermis due to the release of proinflammatory cytokines that should facilitate the movement of our immune cells? Has the pro-inflammatory action been tested, like the release of interleukins and TNFa?
Having some inflammatory mechanisms of action is not necessarily always bad - retinoids can increase markers of inflammation in the skin, for example.
@@skinunmasked I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just asking if this could be the explanation of the higher penetration
One rat article investigated erythema and as well immune cell infiltration to the skin and found no change between treatment and control groups but this article was the LinkedIn one so let’s take it with grain of salt.
Plus people will do anything to make skincare work harder I guess 😆🥹
Some increase of expression of pro inflammatory markers is acceptable but with treatment that cause physical changes this change need to be very minimal 👌🏻
I’m so glad I watched your video. I was initially interested in this product but think I’ll pass on it. Not enough data for me to take a chance on. Very helpful information. Thank you.
From what little I know about skin biology, it definitely doesn’t seem very safe 😂 especially when things like micro-needling are so carefully controlled and allow for a much longer downtime/healing process. so thank you for making this video, I was curious about it.
So true! The risk is there and people need to be aware about before deciding if they will use this product or not 🙏🤗
Thanks for this helpful explanation!
I just got this product and I am skeptical to try it. It is weird to me that so many companies would put these kind of products out there when there’s not enough research done. VT cosmetics is not the only company selling these spicules, medicube, isntree, etc also sell products with this ingredient. I don’t know if I should give it a try or return it at this point. I am worried it will cause issues long term…
Hi Mo, excellent video. I have a 300 and I’m still staring at the bottle to return or keep. You mentioned on the fact the penetration should just be on the epidermis and unless excessive pressure is applied then it may impact the dermis too. Is there a chance granulomas can be avoided if the product is applied with gentle pressure and also less frequently example: twice a week
Miss your videos alot Dr. Mo ❤❤
Thank you so much ☺️
What about accumulation of needles in skin itself?
I used it once and am now paranoid. I threw it out. Would the risk be fairly low for one time use? I also applied after using an essence so hope that buffered
Will this help with pitted scars like Normal microneedling devices?
I’ve never heard of this. Does this work mechanically or chemically?
Can you share your thoughts on the medicube exosome 2000 shot?
Also can a 19 year old use it?
Thank you for your research. The risks are too great in my opinion.
My pleasure and thank you for watching, the risks are there tbh and the chances of them happening is small but no studies telling us how small 😩
@@Moskinlab exactly that...
I’m so tempted to try this product but I’ll wait until there are more data about it😅I guess the word “needle” is really scary
Yea i will wait as well 🙂↕️it’s a smart twist of the name needle to reedle 😂 marketing at its best
How about the risk of inhaling the silica particles as they dry off/shed?
That’s my concern. I’ve used the 50 one and made my skin look so good; but I have a family history with lung problems/ diseases so I decided to stay away from it until I read more data about it
Using it for three weeks no issues love it
Thank you for this!!
Do you know how this is different from more intense spicule “peels”? I’m thinking of the “no chemical” green peel that is supposedly a spicule peel. People experience intense peeling from it but it doesn’t have any acid
One of my derm friends told me about this in the comments and I believe the in clinic one will be more intense and definitely has more risk with because I was told that they use a lot of force when applying this treatment 😅
@@Moskinlab I first saw and heard of the green peel over a year ago from a friend in esthetics school. She had it done and mentioned that it felt like the equilibrium of rubbing glass into your face. Sounded like a bad idea to me 😧😵💫
I've received this treatment, it do in face while feel sand paper rubbing against your skin, I guess microneedling is less painful because of numbing cream, so far the result work well for acne prone skin, less breakout, im not sure about Deep scaring yet, but some of the customer do see alot of different with their scaring.
@@Moskinlabis the in clinic treatment the Cell Story brand?
I had a really terrible reaction to this. Half my face is swollen and covered in painful bumps/cystic-like acne and I've never had acne before.
I am so sorry about your experience 🥹 unfortunately testing new delivery technology can be a problem for some, i always suggest a patch test when you introduce a new product to your routine
What about the Isntree version? How does it differ from the VT one?
Thank you for this video! My question is : do they dissolve over time? Cause if they don't it's a problem, do they pile up under the skin??? if yes what happen after months of use... where do they go?
From animal studies we have, on similar delivery systems made with sponge spicules, after 1 week the skin was free from those micro needles, so it takes around 1 week technically for those needles to shed with the skin and no they don’t dissolve unfortunately, thanks for watching 💕
@@Moskinlab Thanks for your reply! I was a minute away to actually buy it! Your video helped me, I'll wait for further studies!
The company actually said in their website the it stays for 72hrs before it shed in your skin while doing your usual washing routine. This product is korean brand so I hope they will translate this for international buyers. Also this procedures are already popular 10years ago in South Korea.
@@Vironica___VVV Thank you for these information! Is it still a popular procedure?
From my experience, they've washed off when I cleanse my face in the morning.
thanks dr Mo ❤❤
My pleasure 😇
Could you review the medicube’s version?
“Safety data that the brand has”
DOES the Brand have the relevant safety data??? Do we know?
Where does the needles go later on ?
The will come off as the skin sheds. It doesn't penetrate deep into the skin only the upper layer. There is an interview with a brand rep who explained it on UA-cam.
my biggest question is actually how it will disappear from my skin or does it stuck there.
The company say it last 3 days on the skin after usage and some studies (animal studies) show it last a week after usage, it doesn’t dissolve it just shed off with dead skin cells
I was thinking about trying this product but now I changed my mind. It's not worth the risk
This is great. Very informative and helíng video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!🙌🙌🤗 thx for watching
I only used it in the back of may hands And it get small bumps and become itchy for days and I'm happy that I don't buy it.
I am so sorry about your experience and thank you for sharing it, that’s why I exactly always recommend patch testing before incorporating a new product 😊
How does this impact people who have filler? 🤔
Should not cause any extra risk than the ones highlighted in the video
Is it okay to use VT reedle, followed by toner, serum, cream and sun bloc?
Supposedly yes, but if i ever decide to use it, it would be at night before going to bed to allow skin to heal
Hi there. I have hypertension and I honestly don't know why but when I was putting this reedle shot 100 today my BP shot up and I had to take my meds and wash the product off my face
I am sorry to hear this, was there any pain after application in the skin? Because sometimes pain can increase blood pressure, please talk to your physician about this and speedy recovery 💕
Fear can increase blood pressure as well! But what Mo says is very, very true!
I LOVE the VT Reedle shot (I use the 300). Baby smooth skin, reduces redness, and zero irritation (and I have sensitive rosacea prone skin).
I much prefer it to chemical exfoliators, which I’ve always found to be somewhat irritating. The Reedles are Microscopic, and the cream does not have any particles in it that you can feel. It also sinks into the skin fairly quickly, so I doubt it’s possible to do damage by “scrubbing too hard”.
Obviously, it’s not for everyone. And I can totally understand some folks being hesitant to try it. But there’s a reason it’s a viral product, and that’s because it works really well. I’ve tried a ton of skincare, and this has impressed me most in terms of living up to its claims.
I think the main risk is that, because the Reedle Shot IS so effective, some people might be tempted to use the product improperly or too frequently. And, obviously, that would be an issue. But those are the same “more is better” people who think aggressive exfoliation or excessive AHA/BHA use is a good idea…
I am so glad it worked well for you and yes it is not for everyone and because it’s kinda a new technology we would to see more data regarding safety, efficiency wise it seems very promising, keep us posted on your experience with it on the long run ☺️ thank you for watching
Thank you for this message, as I am a sensitive rosacea prone skin too this makes me feel relieved.
Thank you for this great analysis, and btw I feel bad for the rats☹️
I’m so confused now do I use or not. I have coming in mail.
Thank you for this video, Mo! If, as you said, the spicules don't reach the dermis, won't they just get sloughed off during desquamation? So there shouldn't be a foreign object reaction because - no foreign object? 😂
Yes that is possible but depends on application pressure which can vary from person to person and also the supplier of those micro needles because dimensions can vary as well 😩
Checking FAQ on VT website, says that the spicules will just fall off with dead skin, which was what Dr. Dray said would "probably" happen in theory too. But they didn't include any studies or source for this claim, and they didn't mention any risk of silica granuloma. Also reading some blogs some people say they could feel an uncomfortable tingling and needles even after washing off the product and after a few weeks of stopping the usage
@AdrianMartinez-cb5zi “Feeling” needles a few weeks after use is just them psyching themselves out because they heard “horror” stories about it. These are people that are easily susceptible to suggestion. I bet a billion bucks that if such people never heard anything negative about the product they would keep using it and not “feel” any needles for weeks afterwards 🙄
@@ChelseaChfy-ex1po Yes! You’re right! there are people susceptible to suggestion. But you don’t need to hear or feel anything negative now by using the product because is proven that the condition of foreign-body (silica) granuloma can take years to appear, you can use the product in your 20’s without side effects and foreign-body (silica) granuloma may appear in your 50’s, 60’s… In the FAQ’s the VT brand itself says that spicules fall off with dead skin, and the concerns of Dr. Dray are that they don’t provide the studies and sources to make that claim; the risk of developing foreign-body (silica) granuloma in the future. The studies and results provided are more focused on the positive results and don’t include any info about what happen with the spicules at the end. So, if we applied the product daily, how we can be sure and trust that 100% of spicules applied fell off and some percentage didn’t penetrate the skin during the process?
@@ChelseaChfy-ex1po Yes! You’re right! there are people susceptible to suggestion. But you don’t need to hear or feel anything negative now by using the product because is proven that the condition of foreign-body (silica) granuloma can take years to appear, you can use the product in your 20’s without side effects and foreign-body (silica) granuloma may appear in your 50’s, 60’s… In the FAQ’s the VT brand itself says that spicules fall off with dead skin, and the concerns of Dr. Dray are that they don’t provide the studies and sources to make that claim; the risk of developing foreign-body (silica) granuloma in the future. The studies and results provided are more focused on the positive results and don’t include any info about what happen with the spicules at the end. So, if we apply the product daily, how we can be sure and trust that 100% of spicules applied fell off and some percentage didn’t penetrate the skin during the process? Think about chemical filters in sunscreens. Some chemical filters that are supposed to stay on top of your skin according to studies can be found in bloodstream and urine. How we can be sure that spicules didn’t penetrate the skin and develop foreign-body (silica) granuloma in the future?
beyond safety which seems questionable, is it effective? how could one be certain about the position of those needles? I so wanna hit unfollow on every account I see promoting this serum ignorantly...
The studies on this delivery system all showed promising results but the issue with this delivery system is something similar to plant extracts each supplier might produce different size of micro needles which means differ efficacy and safety profile, also a couple of studies used those needles with the conventional delivery systems like liposoms and encapsulation so the added benefit of those needles could be be a tiny boost 🤷
Thank you darling❤
You're welcome 😊
How these micro sponges will be disolved in the skin? Are they gonna stay there? Kindly answer this
Nope they are supposedly will detach from your skin while your skin shedding naturally according to the brand of course
So what happens when these micro needles gets into our drinking water system? Or your pet licks your cheeks??
Unfortunately i have no information about this since I focused on researching human risk while preparing for this video
@@Moskinlab thank you for replying but drinking water thing really worries me. that is a human risk. we already have issues in our water system. all those polyester or nylon garments we wash, those tiny micro fibers are not getting filtered and we are basically drinking those fibers. we are suppose to wash them in a special wash bag but i highly doubt people know about this.. anyway thank you.
My question is what if you accidentally got this in your eye?😳
I don’t have information about this but i can imagine imagine outcome could be terrible since people reported burning and tingling when applied on skin so I beloved eyes would be worse
Thanks mo ❤❤
My pleasure 😇
I just watched this after watching Beauty Within review that product and Dr. Dray sorta review. Your video was much much more informsive than Dr. Dray and she didnt mention that rat study at all that i can recall. Only a pig one.
Thank you so much for watching and supporting ❤️🥹
Im surprised that its a Korean product. Korean skincare was perceived (by me) to be focused on long term goals using gentle ingredients. This stuff sounds like the exact opposite of this
This!! These types of semi-intensive 'treatment' products were always lacking in Korea's skincare offerings. They don't even allow high percentage BHAs! Not at all a bad thing, but apparently Korean consumers never knew they needed it until this reedle shot stuff blew up...
Doesn't help that K-beauty is very heavy on overconsumerism. They'll make products of all imaginable textures and ingredients and formats, and there will be money spent on PR, and influencers ready to promote anything, and consumers primed with fomo constantly chasing new things...
شكلك عربي، هلا هلا.. أنا كنت ناوية أشتريه وبشرتي دهنية معرضة للحبوب.. تنصحني ؟
افضل المقشرات الكيمائية مثل السالسيلك اسيد
Thank you for at least doing the research!
My pleasure always thank you for ur support
Are these products using for acne only?
For oily skin and skin with texture
@@Moskinlab i have dry and sensitive skin, no acne issues, looking for anti aging and pore repairs. Im wondering if it works.
I meant spicules not pickles!😂
I wish they were pickles 🤣👌🏻😭
very thorough explanation. thank you for this
Glad it was helpful! ❤️🙌
The company said the needles leave the body after 2 days during regular face wash , so I don’t think the foreign body reaction is a valid point
We should always take brands claims with a pinch of salt, I provide the literature available data for a similar delivery system, the risk is there but jot significant and i made it clear in the video 🙌❤️
@@Moskinlab yeah I know , but a lot of people especially dr dray she started yapping about how they don’t leave the body and all of that and I find it very misleading cause the brand made it clear
If they had done the research on a human using this specific product then yes they have a point otherwise they have nothing to prove
This is not towards you I’m talking about most influencers and doctors on social media click baiting for views
I totally understand you, that’s why i wanted to discuss it from risk point of view, i wanted to let the public know about the possible risk and let them have the information to form an informed decision, it’s always about risk benefit and i agree some people (derms and influencers) used click bait titles and a little bit of fear, i hope my video didn’t convey this because i tried my best to select my words carefully. But at the end i really hope they did a proper risk assessment for this product and have the data (even if not shared) to show the risk is low or insignificant ❤️
I Love the 300!
So glad it is working for you 🤗
Thank you, I loved the video! 😊
God bless you, Jesus loves you! ❤
You are so welcome
So interesting. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
This might be weird to say, but I don't think your thumbnails are doing you any favors. This is the first video I watch from you and you seem very kind, informative and honest, which is great! Your face in your thumbnails looks kind of aggressive, like your looking for a fight, and I don't think it will attract the kind of viewers that would appreciate your content
In any case, thanks for doing all this work, and good luck!
Thank you for your comments and i appreciate your feedback, yes i am not the best with these kind of things so every once in awhile i try to change my thumbnail but note taken 🙏
Opinion is spelled incorrectly in your title.
Oops you are correct 😅 thanks
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