Northern California growing into 'mega-region' as people moving from the Bay to Sacramento doubles
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2022
- Working from home means you can change where home is. Massive migration in Northern California has impacted housing prices, politics and more in our area. An ABC10 Originals investigation
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Born and raised and can't afford to live here anymore, the struggle is real.
Same here.
B.S. You just can't start your real estate venures anywhere within 100 miles of the coast- You CAN buy in Fresno, Bakersfield and other inland areas.
I'm sorry....the New Yorkers are killing us locals in the Tampa Bay area as well... had to move an hour North. Rent which was $950 in Dec 2021 is now $1900 in April 2022 for a tiny 650sq ft studio in a dilapidated 1950s house. That was the thanks I got for faithfully paying rent through the pandemic and not damaging anything. Now living in an old RV in an RV park.
@Benny Hill 2 million illegals a year and the government is committed to giving them free housing. Oh look, if they use 1 million rentals a year, and another 1 million the next, etc, there isn't half that available in the entire US right now, much less 6 more million under Biden with a second term. Prices are going way, way, way up.
@@LetsDanceTampa the more people come , the prices will go up.
My wife and I came to the realization that the quality of life in Los Angeles was not worth the cost of living there in 1987. We relocated to the real Northern California, Humboldt County. The locals there were already concerned about how rapidly housing prices were going up because of people like us. The problem for us was the culture shock. We were not prepared for for rain or the people we encountered. We didn't last long there and neither did the marriage. She is living in Joshua Tree now watching the same thing occur there, people relocating there and prices soaring. I am in Fort Worth, Texas watching the prices spike here. When the housing market became a Wall Street commodity for greedy investors, the writing was on the wall. It's a sad thing to observe.
I lived in humboldt county for years and I have to say the people there are chill. I still consider it my hometown. Live in ukiah now and homes are shockingly expensive so we purchased a mobile home in a park near ukiah. Paid cash and we love the weather here. Sorry humboldt county wasn't for you but hopefully you find your own paradise 😉
Californians please dont come to conservative states and vote for democrats.
At least you made it out of CA and to the greatest state in the US! I moved from Clovis CA to Kalispell and couldn’t take the weather…moved to a small town near Austin and I love it! Good luck to you!
@@goodone5590 Native Texan who wouldn't vote Republican with a gun to my head. I hear that's what they plan to do next if gerrymandering doesn't do the trick.
You explained the 🏠 prices correct the rent an buying 🙄 is ridiculous homes an apartment are not even worth the price 😒 they have lost there 🧠completely GREED AT ITS FINEST shameful.
The price of housing right now is honestly ruining my life. I feel like I can’t afford to live on this planet anymore.
Same. And it's EVERYWHERE.
because we can't afford to live on this planet. You're actually right about that. Not under the current economic system anyways
You can thank every legislator, city council member, and al of the last few governors in California for bowing to environmentalists who scream for less fire management and more housing restrictions. During that same time, they’ve made it harder to generate electricity and stopped water storage plans from moving forward, all in the name of “progress.” That’s why I left 18 months ago and I’m so glad I did.
@@moisesaguirre1207 It has nothing to do with the economic system and everything to do with corrupt politicians in bed with unions and environmentalists. And I’m a union member who loves this planet.
@@verda_renee buy a house in japan. it will depreciate lol
Migration is human history. We shouldn't be angry with the people that migrate, whether it's for safety or economic reasons, we should be more upset with the situations and systems that cause or exacerbate displacement. Home is essential for everyone.
I agree but that goes back to wages being a living wage. This country lost track of what that means and why the minimum wage law was created. The rich and large corporations have been undermining our economy for decades and this is why many younger generations are deciding not to have kids.
Can they atleast leave their Bay Area policies where they came from?
Unfortunately, history has also shown that migrants bring their problems with them. California is already a wasteland in most cities. The California migrants will ruin Texas and Florida next. I guess it's good that they're keeping it in-house for now. But the "situations and systems that caused or exacerbate displacement" are the very things they asked for to begin with. And they'll ask for them again in their new city.
_Amen._
All the reason people are fleeing is due to the laws they voted for.
It sucks watching my chances of owning a home in my own hometown plummet due to wealthy outsiders coming here en masse. Sacramento really did used to be a different place not all that long ago.
That’s funny I think that’s how people from all over America feel about all Californians
That's why I moved to Texas I was priced out of the only city I grew up in
Nobody trynna move to California
Yep, I went to High School in Sitter Creek, Amador County. Left in 91, went back in 2014, El Dorado Hills was gone, Latrobe road I could not recognize. So much sprawl. Those rolling fields and hills were all turned into Sub Divisions.
@@jonj6602 Yah in the land of the FREE it's crazy to think that we can move and thrive anywhere we choose to!!
As a Texan, I also feel this pain. It's terrible what's happening to many previously affordable middle class areas of this country.
Since TX is a little lower than KS which is center
You may get people from CA and NY
Jacking up proces
Texas is still dirt cheap lol no one wants to live there
@@tybarker5038 Dirt cheap? Wow. I guess We have different definitions of dirt chip.
@Norman Lee Where are those high tech companies suppose to go?
@@DeepVerma728 stay where they belong.
In the last four years I've lived in Sacramento (my hometown), SF, Seattle, and now Denver. And let me tell you - this stuff is happening everywhere. Massive amounts of construction, clogged highways, astronomical housing prices, rising crime, tons of transplants moving in and locals moving out, etc.
All four places you mention are highly desirable and yes the prices have gone way up. I don't have answers other than to move to another lower priced town. But if you were able to buy ad sell, then you'd have pocketed substantial amount of equity.
I’m here in slc same thing going in here
Yeah, I was kind of hoping COVID woulda worked to 'thin out' the population a bit, but it hasn't made a difference at all:(
@@tempest411 I was hoping for the same. Maybe if WW3 happens?
People move for a variety of reasons. In and out of locations. The places you listed are all desirable places to move to. To help current residents and new residents have places to stay, cities should invest in all types of housing, especially dense housing. And in addition, invest in robust public transit. It’s not easy, but it could help address the challenges you laid out while making the locations better for current and new residents. Hopeful that advocating for these changes make a positive difference!
Also, can we talk about the aggressive drivers?? My God. I don’t know who gave these people their licenses. Yesterday I was at a crosswalk, almost across the street and a woman pulled out all the way onto the crosswalk. I had to go Behind her car. Way to respect pedestrians, lady. A lot of people here are just depressingly rude drivers and it seems to have gotten worse over the last few years
It's not as if most US drivers had a choice to drive or not to drive. I mean, if there was some decent infrastructure, some of them could take things like. Bikes. Or transit. Oh well. USA :3.
People here don't have brakes in their cars. They would like to hit something than stopping. 😏
They learned to drive in Mexico.
@@jt8251 Even if it was true, it's the USA. You don't know or don't want to drive to work or buy things? Well you got no choice, because usa is freedom, and freedom means cars not choosing which transport mode you'll use :3
Very seriously, conducting in the USA sounds awfull, you have some of the worst road infrastructure in the developped world, and have no other choice but to use it even if you shouldn't '-'. Or don't want. Go drive in a city or highway were some people hate driving '-'
Ha! Visit Colombia or Turkey. American drivers are downright polite in comparison.
First time home buyers in Sacramento area won’t have a chance. SF people are causing price wars on homes that are high than what the house was appraised at.
And everyone originally from the Bay Area is getting pushed out. All the techies came through and ruined everything.
You are not kidding. My house has almost tripled in price . I couldn’t afford to buy it now
There offering more than the asking price to
secure the home.
Only way to get a house is to have years worth of good credit and have a job that pays 25 an hour.... Great for first time buyers ...
Live in ukiah and thats exactly what happened. The rent is astronomical
the only thing you guys forget about is what the valley is. the valley used to be america's breadbasket. farms and ranch's for miles and to work on the farms and ranch's were migrant farm workers. now they have come quite a ways these days and good for them, but soon they won't be able to afford to live here anymore. rents are going up up up and away. the answer isn't forcing business's to pay more, its a political situation that needs to be dealt with here. no more 1 party rule...its killing us. time was you would budget your income as such. 1 weeks wages goes to pay the rent. the next pays for food and maybe a bill. then the next weeks wages went to bills and maybe more food. the fourth week is all important because that is supposed to go to savings...for a house/car/whatever. as it stands now some folks are using almost 3 weeks wages to pay rent....literally leaving them hand to mouth. it isn't right.
*Great Points*
Absolutely the truth..
I am 61yrs old and my Mom explained a Budget (basically) the same way you did.
That was back in the 70s...
You nailed it
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Bay Area locals used to call Sacramento a dump. Now, well, well, well. Sacramento is not so bad now that they’re priced out of the bay and now ruining the housing market for local Sacramentians.
Born in Sacramento, I live in Placer County now, I’ve only ever left California a handful of times for vacations. I’m a college student, and have to leave soon because I simply can’t afford to stay and it breaks my heart because I feel I have such a deep attachment to the land and the history here. California is a beautiful, BEAUTIFUL state. There’s so much character and life to be found, not to mention how unique the topography is. But the politics, our leaders, and the class divide, along with climate change, it’s all destroying the state. Honestly it’s absolutely heartbreaking to see these vast wetlands/fields around here bulldozed with suburbia in the blink of an eye. I went to Folsom Lake this last summer, it was so low we had to watch out for fishhooks in the sand. I love California, I always will, but I think I’ll be glad I got out when I did. If the people who are saying America is going downhill are right, California will most likely be one of if not the first state to fall, unless something changes.
In the ‘60s I heard the adults talking about Lockheed re-assigning a number of executives to Atlanta from California. Their wives were livid, thinking the area was peopled by KKK members in sheets. But they got here and found out Atlanta had a world class symphony and other things that made for quality of life. But - and Cali husbands, don’t read this to your wife- we have four seasons which meant that the wives had an excuse to buy clothes four times a year. When the execs were transferred again the wives didn’t want to leave.
Yep I agree 👍 I live in Rocklin and everything is getting built out here. So many people are coming here and making it miserable. Traffic, crime, homeless and expenses are all continually rising up and up. I'm moving up to Foresthill for now and if that don't work I'm outta here for good.
I have lived in Newcastle my entire life. Can't believe how much my house and property are worth. With how crazy this place has become in the past 10 years or so, I can't wait to head to another state.
@@chimblesfernandez5019 I would sale it and get out of here. It's only gonna get worse unfortunately.
30 years living downtown and these next few months are unfortunately my last here, being priced out and not finding available spots thats dont require perfect credit scores or 30 grand plus in ur bank account. SMH.
Here dealing with my parents estate and can't wait to get out of Sacramento. It has become a cesspool of negativity. SMH
@@tyrahoytt7264 i hope this isnt sarcasm directed at me.
@@chrisupreme8708 WAT
One of the reasons why I left the state. Everything is so expensive over there nowadays. I work in tech too, my whole job can be done remotely, so I don't need to be tied to Cali. Living somewhere cheaper was definitely the right move for my bank account. Unfortunately the place I'm at is gradually becoming more expensive, that seems to be the norm across all states. We're living in tough times...
You don't need a perfect credit score, just not a 450.
Let's just forget about drought, class wealth gap, and unsustainable sprawl.
Fires, etc.
Also, please forget... it hits110 degrees.
But always remember... Sacramento is birthplace of the neck tattoo.
And rent controls!
@@danielfiore8865 110 and no humidity
And Democrats running the state into the ground
There needs to be restrictions on greedy institutional buyers and how many homes anyone is allowed to own.
Pure socialisms at its finest. DID you not watch the video clip!? This is the reason people are leaving CA. NO PERSONAL FREEDOM. MORE Restrictions on business will MAKE IT WORSE. Please study economics. Then you will understand better the circumstance that people are trying to convey through anecdote's.
If you REALLY want to put the hurt on them, build more housing! With more supply, it will naturally decrease the value of their investment. Therefore decreasing their incentive to buy multiple properties!
Best comment here. It will happen just exactly as soon as Congress all holds hands and stares down the Real Estate lobby. (And banking and insurance and hedge funds) So, yeah, never. It still is the best idea though.
Thank you! You are the only person to hit the nail on the head here, besides me. The unregulated real estate industry is killing the American dream and many cannot even afford to even rent! What is their end game? Just more, more, more money, as they could care less about people affording any housing, anywhere? These are the same people who manipulated the unregulated mortgage real estate industry that crashed our economy in '08! The Donnie tRump's of the world.
And also just increase interest rates so they can't leverage up.
A lot of the problem is that they are not building higher density housing in the places with jobs. Higher density housing lowers the cost of housing and makes neighborhoods more walkable. Unfortunately most of SF is zoned for single family housing
You need to be the top commenter here. Ground floor businesses and purchasable homes on top! 🙌
Enough with the suburb life of car-dependency
It's not helping in my area at all. High density is not the holy grail. Every where they've said it would eliminate cars it hasn't and residents own two cars per apartment. Traffic is now the number one issue getting out of town if you don't work within 10 miles of your house. Maybe SF is different but I doubt the economics of supply and demand are very different anywhere in the USA.
@@spencerhansen8374 High density has not been implemented the proper way here in California to see any results. To notice a reduction in cars in an area requires 99% of the daily/weekly trips for a home owner to be done without a car. Since we don't have reliable railway options or short commutes, the only other option is to allow ground-floor homes to be converted into retail, grocer, and dining business (as a start).
Yeah they tried that in Chicago. Gangs took it over.
@@firebolt100 That's already been done. It didn't work.
Too many people moving to sac go away!!
Yes please.
They will make you "go away"
Please.
This is happening all over the US. There's simply too many people here.
@@taxthesocialist2602 ignoramous. Go to China if you think there's too many people here.
Sorry to say....the San Francisco migration is not welcomed. The other day I was walking through my old neighborhood that got gentrified. And the building was nice. But once I looked passed the niceness of the building. I noticed it was hollow.
While I live in a very nice place now....it was sad to see that new build in my old neighborhood made the community feel....Void of charm, connectedness, community. It's a Bay Area vibe that I think would be better to stay in the Bay area.
One of the best things about Sacramento in my opinion is that it's just a little bit city and a little bit country. Not too much either way.
When you bring in a flood of concrete dwellers in it makes our city emotionally cold and depressing....it turns a cozy home into a heartless house. And a friendly community into a valueless trend.
Oh wait 🤔 maybe the other part of it that's a turn off and has that homewrecker vibe.....is that the migration seems to be weak people that couldn't make it in San Francisco. So they move to Sacramento....but they still want to be in San Francisco.
-So instead of appreciating the true beauty of Sacramento (#reading the room)....they try to turn Sacramento into San Francisco. As if Sacramento isn't good enough... When it it's really them that wasn't good enough for San Francisco.
🙏 Please I'm begging you, keep that vibe as far away from Sacramento as possible....we don't need that stench here... We're the city of trees we like fresh air.👉❤️🌳
Tell that to the rich foreigners pouring in they're technically responsible for this
@@quetzalcoatl9993 Why don't the San Franciscans' create better technologies than the foreigners?.... I believe in you.... You got this! You can do it.
That's always been the name of the game. Take what design exists and create something that works better. That's what Facebook did to myspace. They made it more universal for those that were less tech savvy.
-Don't look at how the situation is better than you. Look at the ways you are better than the situation.💪
@Phil M what are locusts?
Who are you begging for these things you want? You talk about "weak" people who moved to Sacramento from the Bay. I have to point out that begging some other entity that you can blame for things and people that you personally do not like is pretty weak as well.
@@closer02001 Nope, not begging an entity.... it's the attitude of the people. Each person's attitude contributes to the community. We already have our job cut out as is.
-- I'm saying if you have to move because you can't afford San Francisco.
Please Don't come to Sacramento just like the original invaders... with a wound up aggressive irritability, an air of smugness, and assumption that... you, your way, and your vision is automatically better because it comes from "San Francisco".... Cause it's not😂. It doesn't mean you don't have your value and strength. It just means that....
-Sacramento has a Sense of humbleness, calmness, uniqueness that is beautiful and sacred.... We already have people that don't appreciate it, and ruin it....we need to reduce those numbers not increase them by "turning Sacramento into San Francisco".
It's like when you add new fish to a tank... there's ways to go about it. You set them in a plastic bag with reservation and let them get acclimated...
---And you pay attention to the type of fish, there are aggressive fish...that just don't work well at all with non-aggressive fish communities.
Those aggressive fish breeds are not bad....they just don't work well in a non-aggressive fish community. Those aggressive fish work best with other aggressive fish communities.
So it would probably be best...to either read the room... instead of trying to be the room....
Or find another city more similar to San Francisco like L.A.? That is more aligned with your flow. Everyone will be much happier. But that's just my opinion. It's not law😁
Moved to Sacramento last year. Regret it. Now I'm stuck renting a room when I have a family because I cannot meet 3x income requirements of a studio in a city that, not even 5 years ago, would have been affordable to me. 3600 gross income requirement to have a small studio in Sacramento along with credit checks and waiting lists. This same thing is happening across the nation and the government (both sides) is in cahoots with the investors who use homes as a commodity to get richer and richer. Anybody who works 40 hours a week deserves to have a home - not renting a room - a home where they can find a partner to move into and then move into a bigger home and start a family. It's almost impossible to start a family nowadays for the average working joe. You have to hope you are born with wealthy parents who can afford to send you to college so you can make good money now. America demands a working class to serve the wealthy but refuses to give them homes. Crime will only go up, mental illness will only go up, homelessness and addiction will only go up until America realizes people need homes.
Well said.
As much as I love Bay Area and had stayed here for almost 20 years, I feel like I am being push out from this area and/or California in general. The cost of living is just ridiculous. The so called "Nice weather tax" to live in California becoming less and less justifiable.
Keep voting blue. It will all magically fix itself.
@@bigguy7353 As if Republicans have the answers. lol
California should never have had so many people in it. It does not have the water resources to sustainably do so.
Exactly especially with all the gangs and criminals running everywhere it’s not what it used to be
Well don’t come here to sac and ruin our ecosystem because you guys ruined your
I was born and raised in Roseville and I’m so grateful I bought my house in 2013 if I hadn’t I could absolutely not afford to buy today! I almost moved to Linda and am so happy I did not. It is getting extremely expensive here I fear the blue collar worker will be driven out and people say learn to code or get a better job but we’re the ones building your houses and infrastructure. Without us you don’t have a place to move.
My thoughts exactly!
The greed of the unregulated real estate industry does not have a ceiling and they will not be satisfied until all non wealthy people are living in tents on the street. Oh, and fighting amongst each other for the scraps the wealthy throw out, just to see us kill each other as a rich man's sport.
You bought it at the lower point ! Great job ! I bought it at 2003 at Elk Grove ! Pay off !
I remember when my aunt's place flooded out in Linda, when levee broke. (And the helicopters removing her drowned horses.) Linda was nearly abandoned after that flood - as unsafe. Californians are increasingly desperate for "affordability."
Some places - are not worth the discount. They are too dangerous.
"Affordable" California is now in either extreme flood or fire hazard zones. I sadly, think it's best to just leave.
The parcel taxes Will be Raised
I left from Sacramento for 3 years, I came back and things were different, LOTS more people, "decade of change in two years" is exactly what I witnessed coming back during COVID.
Being from the mid-west (Chicago-now northern Wisconsin), I was thinking about moving out west years ago. I'm glad I stayed put. With housing prices, taxes and water issues I would have had to move like so many of these people. My major reason for moving was for the warmer weather. Now the winters aren't so bad to me anymore.
Why is it called the Midwest? Is Dayton in the Mideast? Suck it up and say you're from Central America, buttercup.
As a fellow Midwesterner, I feel the exact same way.
I'm thinking about moving to Chicago
@@Artgod626 Cool. You'll need guns. Lotsa guns.
Winter's like a necessary evil LOL. It keep's a lot of people away although that's not to say we don't have our fair share of BS still. I see a mass migration to the great lakes region since the west is drying out because of drought. Here we'll still get tons of rain
I grew up in the Bay Area and moved to Sacramento for school - it's not a bad city, but wasn't for me. I went back to the Bay Area for a couple years before moving to Orange County, CA because I felt it was a little easier to survive here. I love living here but now I'm experiencing the same thing - it's so expensive here, and many people I know are moving into the Inland Empire because they can't afford LA/Orange County.
My rent was $2300 in 2019. Today my unit, if moved into today, is running for $3100. I can't afford to move even if I wanted to - the apartments in the "cheaper areas" are still more expensive than what I've been grandfathered into. I can't even afford to save for a move.
It's getting tighter and tighter and my income hasn't been raised to match it, despite my experience and education.
you know let me tell you something interesting... I remember me and some of my friends use to have an inside joke about California.... Cali is so expensive that even lawyers and doctors are basically considered "Working class" in this state! It is like you have to be a multimillionaire, billionaire or a film star to really live in luxury/privilege in Cali. Honestly, this somewhat turns out to be true.... because one gentleman even said " His son is an engineer and makes a $120k year salary and being a professional" can still not afford to buy a house and or property because most houses sell for at least $1mil and not only that... one thing this guy didn't mention... most of the houses that sell for at least $1mil are only 700 or 800 sqft ( which means very small houses) with $1mil you would at least expect a 5k-6k sqft house.... but not in Cali... so yes, very good points all made and the inside joke turns out to be absolutely true. Cali is just out of control!
That sounds harsh. I wish you the best; like Tropical Beach said, California is out of control.
yes, OC transplant to IE
Orange County has been expensive since the 1980's. I tried moving down there when I was 19. I was working 3 jobs and living in a 1 bedroom apartment with 2 other people, and could not still make ends meet. I moved back to Northern Ca.
California never talks why they have such a big economy thanks to federal contracts with the state, NASA, military bases etc and the state is one of the latgest with the biggest population in the USA! More people than the whole country of Canada. That said, put things in perspective!! Big size and huge population. Little Massuchuets has a stronger economy and better colleges and more educated too. California has a lot of racism too ..
California is garbage i quickly found out. Go to Michigan! Its ten times better with awesome clean, safe beaches California is garbage i quickly found out. Go to Michigan! Its ten times better with awesome clean, safe beaches note
As a resident of Sacramento, I havent seen much growht within Sacramento city limit lately, but the surrounding surburbs are indeed growing like crazy.
They don't want to be near the Democrat politicians in Sacramento doing all the damage
Probably not. No water. Housing is limited. Prices going up as a result. New developers have to find the water, so developments are one and two houses infill in cities, not big tracts any more. No new water infrastructure, no more housing, prices going way, way, way up.
😂 Sacramento county doesn’t mean Sacramento! Roseville is its own city. North highlands is its own city , folsom etc , own cities
I live in the city proper and trust me, it is growing.
I have been visiting family in the Sacramento area for 12 years and I have seen the growth difference. Suburbs like Elk Grove, Roseville, Folsom, Galt, Davis and Woodland are growing like crazy. That area will be bigger than the Bay Area in a decade or two.
I remember when I first moved to the area in 1990 I could drive from Marysville to Roseville on highway 65 and there'd be miles and miles if open fields.
Fast forward to today there's almost no open fields anymore.
It's very sad because farmland can't build upwards like people can.
the casino being built was more important
@@yayaeyore
Yup.
"It's very sad because farmland can't build upwards like people can."
Nor can natural habitats.
I was born in 1969 in sacramento.i spent years exploring those fields on my dirtbike.i moved out of california in 1999 and most likely will never move back.
It can
The video editing is really good. Props to whoever is doing it
This was one of the best Sacramento news station program about the area up to date. Good job, ABC 10.
I was born and raised in California
I.lived in both the Bay Area and Sacramento. I recently sold my house and have left the state with no intention of returning
The.cost of living in both locations is out of control.
This was a really impactful and well produced video. Nice job to those who made it happen!
Anybody who's been to Tokyo understands how their city developed perpendicularly inward from from the Pacific with high density in this area. Tokyo is an excellent model to look at for public design in transportation and living density and height
I mention this because this same thing is happening to SF what happened to Tokyo hundreds of years ago which shows that this type of movement is not unique and is predictable! (Edit sp)
Herendous way to live. People not having enough space for a real garden , can't grow your own food and have to rely on a store and the system for every last in thing about your life.
@@babymoon5282 I know, it is frightening.
JA has strict method for immigration and borders which help their population to be stable unlike USA
@@AngelicoCiudad there is hardly any population growth. Capitalism is ruining
I'm from Stockton, so many folks from bay area are moving here, now housing is a real struggle the demanding is crazy..... housing triple in the last 3 years....
Sacramento has its own issues but I pray it don't become part of the toxic environment of Bay Area.
It already has in downtown
@@NR-gp2il and Roseville road, and many other places. SF trash is spreading like a cancer throughout Sacramento.
Too late bay gangs moved to sac
@@Nightsjourney2dreams gangs always been in sac no?
Nah. Not toxic environment. /
Several luxury apartments and condos are being built in vacaville and fairfeld area. The traffic within the city of Vacaville has increased as well in the past 4 years. The problem currently and in the next few years will be locals getting priced out of homes by people from bay area.
@Alex M $3000 per month for rent on a small place in Vacaville California.
@Alex M Soory about that. I was asking a question. You can buy a very NICE home 🏡 😊 for that same $3000 per month mortgage in Texas. Many Californians have moved to Texas for that very reason. 😊 God bless. Henrique Saldana from Dallas Texas.
@Alex M One more thing...Texas doesn't have a state personal income tax so you can keep more of your hard earned money and also feel safer here (low crime rate) in Texas. Henrique Saldana from Dallas Texas.
@@henriquesaldana3377 We moved to CA from Texas. While you don't income tax the prop tax is significantly higher. I was paying 1/4 the tax on 1/10 the assessed valuation.
Dallas has one of the highest crime rates in the country. 🙂
That happened along time ago.
Wow great editing! The maps superimposed on the bay bridge was very cool
I'm tired of Bay area people moving into the valley, then complaining about our way of life. If you don't like living in the valley then move back to the bay.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
I noticed the influx of Bay Area people in the roads a couple of years ago. Sorry but these guys are very aggressive in the roads. What is the rush and why so angry?
Maybe they’re not in a rush, but you’re just meandering around town too slowly?
it's Bidens new normal, new world order fodder.
@@legacyjeetkunedo492 Thats what you do in town… you drive slow…
Force of habit!😝
A business I worked out for many years was sold to the nation's largest automotive retailer. They brought in a bunch of their people from the Bay area. Nothing but a bunch of con artists and thieves.
Don’t tell Sac natives you moved here from the bay, it’s the absolute most depressing thing to hear. Bay money gutted our downtown. Gentrification killed the community music venues we had, and the local creative community was forced out. Locals have been deeply hurt by the bay mass exodus to our city.
If you want to fix housing prices and homelessness, then cities need to DENSIFY. The US is now feeling the negative side effects of car-dependent urban sprawl.
It seems like people prefer to live in larger houses, and in less densely populated neighborhoods. For those that don't, there is of course other housing options too. That is what is great about America, you can choose tons of cities since it's such a massive country.
Great report and editing guys !
It's really sad that I likely cannot settle down with my own family in the state I was born and raised in because it's too expensive now.
Me on the other hand moved from Sac back to the Bay Area and im glad im back
We're glad your back too. But I hope you brought money.
@@danielfiore8865 lol 😆 😂 yes it is definitely pricey but home sweet home 🏡.
Me too. Took a job in San jose in 2011. Never moving back to Sacramento.
@@Mike-cv7hv good move !
We have WAAAAAY too many People moving here.
And the infrastructure isn't in any shape to keep up....
Good informative video. Appreciate this
As a North Bay resident, I couldn’t stand the hot summers in the Valley, staying put.
Good. Please encourage your neighbors to do the same.
The North Bay beautiful! Best wishes from Oakland.
Same here. Weather is nice here too. Staying put. Love the Weather
Thank you. 😀
North Bay is awesome
The air quality is already bad. So let's add more drivers and raise up the cost of living. You ruined the bay area and now you will ruin sacramento
it's been ruined for years!
Yep. We need a viable, highly efficient and affordable public transportation system, and it needs to go to Elk Grove, Folsom, Roseville, Lincoln, Auburn and Placerville. Light rail in its current incarnation ain't it. It's not fast, it's not efficent and it costs too much for what you get out of it.
Just moved my family from NH to the beautiful mountains of northern California . We love it . It's like a beautifully kept secret up here 🤫
I hope Sacramento natives like cleaning human feces & heroin needles off the sidewalks while dodging homeless drug zombies, because that’s what’s coming to their neighborhoods
Interesting to know that we still have more residents moving out then in though. With interest rates changing we might see a shift in the market soon. However, prices will continue to rise when the demand is so high.
Half of central and South America lives here now
Don't you know LA is part of Mexico?
I live in Humboldt County, California. Out of curiosity I just looked up houses for sale in my neighborhood because they're building a few on a lot that has been vacant for years. I didn't see those houses listed for sale, but the closest two houses for sale to my house are apparently 500,000, 665,000, and 949,000 US dollars. Wow! If you are going to move here, reply to this comment. The 500,000 house should not be bought by anyone. I know exactly where it is, and would tell anyone don't even dream of daring to buy it. Everyone, if you buy a house here get the electrical inspected and get it inspected for mold, not just by a "home inspector" but someone specially trained to inspect and repair for old or unsafely rewired electrical wiring and mold, and get earthquake insurance, and cabinet locks so your dishes don't go flying out in an earthquake.
Thanks for the heads up about the mold. I lived in Humboldt for 3 years and loved it and was planning on moving back, but the way how those home proces shot up...I am a little worried now :(. Also when I was living there, I wish I did the bit about a lock for my dishes, a well, you live and learn.
As a Sac County local, I can tell you that the most frustrating thing next to the housing costs is the cultural/societal impact. There are more than a few locals who see this influx of Bay Area people as them having ruined their own city and now bringing their problems here. It especially sucks because I have family in San Francisco so it was close to my heart as well, and watching that city become the cesspool it is now only to see the same happen to my own area inspires nothing but a nauseating sense of cynicism. California used to be such a nice place...
The strategy is to coerce the public into better funding government services by exacerbating existing socioeconomic problems, in other words, making them simmer in their own stew! 😕💔🇺🇸
I am afraid we are growing cesspools everywhere; nowhere is nice anymore. Either vandals trash it or developers make it unaffordable.
I moved out of California (The Bay) 4yrs ago and I don’t plan on going back to live.
The cost of living, lack of cleanliness, The homeless issue’s, drugs, etc.. it’s just too much. The soul of the Bay Area is gone.
I just got back from the Bay Area & its soul is better than ever.
It has died..Even KFOG is Gone.
I was born and raised in Sacramento. I moved away 10 years ago. Best life decision I ever made.
Where did you move to
@@clarhck6 Los Angeles, but I am starting to regret that too..🙄
Im 52 born and raised in sac .i moved out of state when i was 30 i miss it but i will never move back.
@@ELCLAVE300 Los Angeles is a wasteland full of bum's & junkies. America has turned into a shitshow
@@ELCLAVE300 why?
Although i dont live in California (Texan here) it seems that the major contributor to huge surge in housing/living cost is people moving from either another region in the state, or from another region in the US.
For example, If Person A, who is a resident of San Fransico, moves to another area in CA or another state due to the ever growing living cost, that means Person B ,who just moved into SF, contributed to that higher cost of living. Then Person C, who was already a resident of the place Person A just moved into, is now going to have to deal with higher living costs that Person A is going to cause.
This has been happening here in Texas for about the past decade. Our property taxes are horrendous with no signs of slowing down, which is affecting the average home owner greatly. These increases are largely due to more and more people who have relocated here, who are the exact same people who left their state because of rising cost they went through.
Ive seen dozens of new sub divions and housing buildings get built in my city and wonder how exactly this will sustain itself because, unless you completely ban migration and prevent people from moving, the cycle wont end until it just flat out burst.
I'm willing to bet that apart from undesirable politics, illegal immigrants being poured into the state exacerbates the situation even worse as democrats fund and house these foreigners next to natives. Government taxing US citizens from their hard earned income to be distributed amongst foreigners.
We need less people. America is overpopulated. 330+ million is way to big of a population.
Whoever edited this video did an amazing job!!!
Born and raised in Sacramento. Grew up in Eldorado hills when there was just a gas station and a Raleys grocery store
I relocated from St. Louis to Sacramento in May 2019. I've never seen a region grow so much in a short amount of time! There are areas in Roseville, Natomas, Rocklin, and Folsom that are building subdivisions at an alarming rate.....and the amount of urban sprawl is promising and scary at the same time. I love living here in Sacramento, but I also know that people from the bay area are moving here which will bring the cost of living here to go up! I knew that areas like LA, San Diego, and San Fran are growing, but I didn't think that Sacramento would be doing the same too
Guess what I’m the one building them get your money up all that concrete work is my work 👌💪
I was raised in Sacramento. When I was a teen I felt like it wasn't as cool as SF, but as an adult I really like the quality of life here and that housing prices aren't crazy like SF.
@@Zephyr-of-Ilus that’s fair!
@@Zephyr-of-Ilus Crazy how we grow in life and our whole perspective changes.
Well those are their own cities.not Sacramento, but I understand what you mean
yooo the original camera work for this segment is great!
I am from Sac and currently on an RV trip through the Southwest. Went by lake Powell and Lake Mead and couldn't believe how drained of water they are. Powell has drinking water intakes high and dry already. Don't know how all the subdivisions down here are getting approved. I wouldn't advise Californians to move to the SW, based on what I have seen.
I was born and raised in Sacramento. I moved from Sacramento last year. Best decision ever. I won't even fly back for a visit. The "leadership" there has ran what used to be a beautiful state into the ground. People are angry and mean and short tempered. I didn't know how bad it was until I got out. It was like leaving an abusive relationship.
@@craigfreeman9280 I've voted against the BS for years. I got tired of fighting so I left. I took my responsible and informed voting with me.
@@juanitamancillas4216 Hi there, also a native Sacramentan. I like to move, but have family here (my elderly mom). I'd like her to move with me, but it's difficult and most of her family she visits is still in the Central Valley. I'm saving enough to later buy my own place down the road, if I don't marry and have kids. But then if I had a hubby, he would also have to be on board with moving too. So glad you are living better on your own terms.
Ok bye ✌🏻
@@nathanchildress5596 enjoy living in traffic
@@nathanchildress5596 thanks for proving my point. 😅
Internal migration is part of a long American history and it's great you can live in any state or region in the Union. There has been westward migration for a long time and now we are seeing some eastward migration. African Americans left the south en masse in the 20th century to escape the oppression there and work in northern industries. Also migration to the Sun Belt became viable with the spread of air conditioning. These and other migrations are all part of the American pursuit of happiness. I think it's great that we live in a country big enough to offer these opportunities.
Sure. But don't forget what made you leave the old place. Don't bring those things with you to the new place
As Americans we can live in any state of the Union and we don't have to adopt the religion or ideology where we settle. That's the constitution. if you're red or blue in thinking you still have the same right to live anywhere in the Union.
@@joachimsmith For now...
The BIG difference why people are moving now (running away) is caused by our leaders: Crime, Homeless Problems; Huge Increase in Rents due to a housing shortage; Forcing small businesses to close due to high taxes and regulations; Keeping people locked up in their homes; Few professional jobs available for people who make over $75,000/year - most people don't want to work in restaurants and fast food.
@@joachimsmith lol spoken like someone who would destroy their community by voting for over regulation, ridiculous "progressive" policies and insane taxes Only to leave because it's no longer sustainable, but then vote the same way. Braindead boomer.
Bay Area native. Moved to San Diego 25 years ago. It's now just as expensive as the Bay Area. Thought about moving to Sacramento but maybe not at this point.
This happens every few decades nothing new. People shuffle around. Sacramento has miles and miles of open land to build on. There is not shortage of space any time soon.
Yes They keep building but where is the water supply gonna be coming from in this drought there’s no restrictions on the amount of building that can happen which is disgusting because we already are low on our water and gruesome Newsom won’t do anything to open waterways this is going to be real
those open lands are part flood zones and part agriculture. I hope you like flood insurance and having less local food.
You are a special kind of stupid. "Miles and miles of open land..." That is farm land, and as someone else stated, land kept open to absorb when all our rivers overflow their banks. You can't eat houses. California is the largest Ag economy in the world. We feed the nation. A lot of that open land is either grazing land or rice fields. You gave away that you are a city idiot who is not in tune with nature.
I was visiting a friend in Sacramento during the summer one year (I’m in the Bay Area)…it was nearly 110 °F one day. 105 °F was the coolest day of my visit. They can have it!!!
One thing that I noticed BEFORE the migration was that people were generally very friendly there.
Yeah the heat in Central Valley in summer is horrible.I’m staying in bay Area .Guess it Ok for people who stay indoors with AC going full blast
It's not that hot everyday. It cycles from low pressure to high pressure continually. When its high the temp goes up. Most places are hot in summer. That's what summers are. Nights are great 90% of the time. Evening, delta breeze and you can open up the windows and sleep great. I'd rather have a summer and not have to wear a jacket at night. Problem is it is getting too crowded here and too many homeless.
I remember 6 people died during the heat wave of 2017.
Im from the bay area too and i went there a couple times i noticed the same thing people are super polite n friendly over there kinda caught me off guard at first
"But it's a dry heat..."
Crime will get worse as more people from the BayArea move to Sacramento.
Sac violent and prop crime was already higher than nat avg
Everything is worse because of Bay Area people moving here. Everything.
Not "will get" it's already there.
Indeed
Be more inclusive towards the criminals.
Tampa FL is experiencing the same thing. I've been here 22 years and it changed night and day just last few years. It is becoming so crowded, a 10 minute commute now takes and hour and a half. Everything is super expensive. Same apartment I rented in 1999 for $675 a month is now $2,300 a month.
Oh, dear. Americans are suffering, and the Biden administration wants to keep allowing immigration over the border to add to our overly stressed out nation. So wrong, so insane, and they are betraying us. NOT PROTECTING or helping the American people. Close the borders. Enough is enough. Vote REPUBLICAN, seriously, people.
I was born in San Jose in 1977. I was the 4th generation of my family born in the Bay Area. All my family and almost everyone I know has left permanently in the last 10-15 years. My grandma warned us this would happen starting in the 80s.
You grandma is/was wise.
@@josephinetracy1485 Members of our families probably knew each other at some point. I am a techie but I understand how you feel. In the 70s companies like Atari were good examples of tech companies. But Apple came along and all that ended. Now I am embarrassed by what the social media companies have done. I had my own company in the early 2000s and warned everyone I knew about Facebook and Apple and not a single person listened.
@@josephinetracy1485 You are right. The 80s I remember was wonderful in Northern California. It was like any nice area in America. Now that's all gone. I blame liberal politicians and all the progressive nonsense that was meant to make the world a better place and just ended in mass corporatism. San Francisco is ruined compared to what it was. San Jose too. It is not going to ever get better. I'm glad I left in 2006. I would rather live abroad in Europe than ever go back to California. And what's funny is that the people I meet here in Europe all want to move to California!! I tell them it's a bad idea and they don't believe me. They think they can just get a normal job there and be able to afford a better life then they have here.
Wrong. They are FLEEING San Francisco and LA.
sf and la is dope to visit, but idk about living there 🥴
They should be made to stay in the mess they created!
I told myself 10 years ago, the Bay Area is going to come over to the hills into Tracy Stockton Modesto . Stockton Lodi Tracy Manteca Modesto Lathrop all flow into eachother like one city that never really stops. It looks like Sacramento Stockton Modesto and everything in between is going to meld.
People have lived in Tracy, Stockton, Lodi, Modesto and worked in the Bay Area for decades. The Altamont Corridor Express commuter rail service has been in operation since 1998.
Sounds like southern cal
@@darrylnelson05 Nah. The Bay Area is not coming over to those areas but there is Bay Area people going to those areas. /
Nah. Not meld. /
@@georgehudson5019 Nah. /
I'm sure uncontolled crime in the bay area has nothing to do with people leaving.
I've lived in Seattle for 18 years and I'm getting increasingly desperate to move to a smaller, warmer city with (I hope) less traffic and a lower cost of living. I had my eye on Sacramento for a while, but maybe that isn't the answer I was looking for.
Try Fresno or Bakersfield
Fresno is a good call if you like it hot.
Same. I hate Seattle, but I'm stuck here (can't afford to leave and can't afford to stay).
Try New Orleans! It's super affordable and it's my favorite city in the US by far!
Arizona or Texas
I live at Lake Tahoe.. In the last two years the price of renting a studio or one bedroom home have gone up almost 400% ..What used to be $600 a month is now over $2,000 a month.
We got a random offer on our house ( that was not listed for sale ) for more than $125,000 over our last estimate.
People drove up and put a note on our door saying ..
"We want to buy your house! Call us please! We have CASH! "
Most of my co-workers who don't own their own home and have to pay rent have had to move away :-(
Dont sell it!
Ditto: don't sell it...but ask for double the offer to test the temperature.
The Bay area Locusts are on the move.
Exactly thats what I call these lib socialist they destroy their field then move on to another fertile one then do the same, their insane
They'll come here and wipeout what made N cal great!
Bought an old house in Hannibal MO for my daughter last year, for $65k. It’s not Miami, but it’s near the Mississippi, has a walmart, and Lowes and the payment is less than $400.mon. Winter’s kinda of harsh. Fall is beautiful. Property Tax: $350/year!
Tornadoes
My older brother moved from Columbus GA to Sacramento back in 1987 and I finally had a chance to visit him in 2000. This was the first time I visited San Francisco and LA. Being on the ocean and seeing the redwood trees were both great experiences. Fast forward to 7 months ago when I came through with my family, homelessness has taken over portions of Sacramento. It is really bad. You need at least 2 jobs maybe a side hustle to survive. Years ago I considered Cali, but that will never happen. A beautiful state with terrible politics.
From Europe, the problems facing California sound much more typically American than political XD. I mean, you've never built a decent city there, and your american cities did what all american cities do. Suburbs and make illegal all other neighborhoods. No wonder people want to get out. Building suburbs in a cramped place like the bay is utter madness, you don't have any infrastructure *at all* XD.
You think politics is what causes homelessness? How about the unregulated Real Estate industry that points at a house and says: " That tear down dump in a working class neighborhood is worth two million dollars" and the aging owners, or heirs of who bought it in the 70's for 85K say, "sure is!!! " and the greed and displacement begins. Why do you think Donnie is a real estate scammer? Because its a unregulated industry that speculators and scammers made billions off of daily, that's why. Us non wealthy being their marks, as usual. So a poor person who cannot afford a place to live and ends up on the streets. Is that their, or a politician's fault?
@@ww2remembered983Honestly my conversation was mainly about my brother moving to and aspects about Sacremento, but let's talk about it. Politics is the main problem. For example, why are we focusing on roe vs wade. I am sure most of the people supporting that issue are not homeless. Whether we do or don't support, we still need to eat. Politicians who line their pockets through lobbyist groups on behalf of Corp America yet the state wants the property taxes. We have more schools and prestigious colleges per square mile than any of so called democracy yet we are heavily in debt from it, our test are no better because of it, and yet we always have money for war. Politics over people.
@@marcbuisson2463 the problem is America is not into long term planning. Always reactive, but we always have money for war not for people.
@@dohc1067 Roe vs Wade does have an implication on poorer people, since these are the people who don't have the money to raise a kid. Or even give birth to him in a financial stability state. Please correct me but it does cost money if you want to give birth in the US right? What happens if you can't find it/had an unplanned pregnancy and don't have the funds?
It’s crazy hearing Bridgette leaving Sacramento to go to Orangeburg. I’m from Orangeburg and now I live in Sac.
Welcome!
Yeah & she said she had more "freedom" in the SOUTH of all places. I used to live in the South & was VERY oppressive, to say the least. Happy in freedom-loving Sac County.
Welcome! Glad to have you!
Bummer! The wildlife in the Hwy 50 corridor is being decimated. No thought to build up instead of building out.
The following i80 east and end up in Reno. Used to be a cheap city to live in. Now is as expensive as the east Bay
I'm one of the lucky ones. I was born in 1961 in a house that cost 5,000 dollars. In 1971 I moved to a house that was 42,500. I saw the price increases and knew they'd just go up. In 1987, I was able to buy one for 127,500. I couldn't pay the rent on a place today, but I don't have to. It was hard to afford my place. I barely qualified, but 5 years later I was able to refinance, lower my payments and began to make it worth it. Today, with Prop 13, I pay only 2,300 a year to live in a place that my neighbors pay over 5,000 a month. My son gets this place when I pass with the same tax base. I beat the new law by a few years. Do people hate me here? Yes, they're jealous. However, I sacrificed nearly 30 years ago for this
Yep, people complain about taxes here, but don't realize how expensive taxes are else where, especially for what you get. Something like Prop 13 does not exist in other states. We bought a home in Upstate, NY. We bought it for $95,000. The first 2 years it was assessed at $30,000, but the taxes were still almost $1,100 a year. Then, in one year, they doubled the value. Then the next year they raised it significantly again. There were so stops on the whims of the Assessor.
Start building 50-60 story high apartment buildings and there can be enough affordable housing for everyone without turning every small town into another Los Angeles.
And make it look like Beijing? Got it.
Yes, that is what they do in South Korea and it works. Their main reason is there is very little buildable land since it is very mountainous. However, if there is a need, why not try to fix it. People will continue to propagate.
@@sandyrodriguez2803 I don’t know why this isn’t being done in la or San Francisco. They don’t have enough land to accommodate their population
@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 Agreed. If society viewed housing needs with greater importance, they would do this in areas were it would benfit everyone.
Just one of the reasons why a lot of Californians are moving to my state: Baja California. I don't know how people are able to afford it over there.
You meant to Mexico??
@@strongtowerman9661 Mexico has states like we do
Love the narration, best vocal fry in the business.
I live in Central CA and the same thing is happening. People who can't afford to live in other places are moving to our community and it's rapidly become an overcrowded, high crime area.
What part ? I'm in the 559 Tulare County
@@juankroosfrausto7411 Visalia
@@Betterworth7 yeah visalia is getting bigger
Same thing happening to Modesto they’re getting rid of farmland and putting houses and the population and traffic and crime just keeps growing it’s sad really they’re gunna destroy the valley like they did the bay
They are destroying the entire state of California. Any place they can get in and get building permits they are doing it. It is scary to watch.
Made a similar comment. Not enough energy of water. If we build over our rich farmland we lose out on food.
@likexbread birthrates are decreasing actually. And no if anything i blame certain stupid politics and incompetent government. And the stupid people supporting it. We ha d a chance to get rid of Newson. Somehow people "love" him and allowed him to stay.
@@dandychiggins3345 they can build buildings with farm in it
Crime in the central valley has been there for a very long time, the complaint makes no sense.
5:47 It's easy to point at "Forest Mismanagement" refugees in California who are being displaced by fires.
You took an Extremely simple concept and complicated it
Born raised in NJ but moved to Sac in 2011 and Roseville has doubled in size since then
The phenomena is observed in Southern California as well. SFV has the same type of migratory pattern. The reasons are all too similar.
It's been that way for 40 years in S Cali..n cal is going to collapse also
@@rosalindalay4499 But that’s not what you desire, is it? If it be as you say, then there will be nothing to differentiate North and South, other than the people and their opinions.
@@rosalindalay4499 The N. California prices for housing are far less for now than San Francisco or Bay area.
I'm here in San Francisco,every house for sale is gone in two weeks! Every one on my block is from another state!
Pretty soon I'll be moving towards Sacramento, and I'm gonna keep on going til I get out of the state.
I cant believe my new neighbors moved to Philadelphia from San Francisco. He said the cost of living is ridiculous in California
SF voted for what it did to it self stay where you are and deal with what you voted for 👏
Same thing is happening in Sonoma County. Techies are moving here and the home prices and rentals are ludicrous.
And to them who make anywhere between 8 and 12 k (maybe more) the rent is a piece of cake!
I-80 corridor is going to become one crazy mess. Alternate routes to avoid accidents for folks heading south out of Solano county (Jepson Parkway Project) have been planned for 15-20 years and finally set into action 5 years ago but progress is dragging due to both work stoppage during COVID and a sluggish development timeline that was based on growth estimates made pre-pandemic. Meanwhile there are tons of houses being built along that (future) parkway in once-farm land, which will create further congestion. There are no viable routes off I-80 to reroute traffic between Vallejo and Davis for traffic heading either direction on I-80 except for the planned Jepson Parkway. They still have to move a lot of power poles and lines to make that parkway a reality.
Rust belt cities like KC, St. Louis, and Indianapolis are still incredibly cheap. And there's a little more entertainment there than in Sacramento.
This isn’t good news for us Sacramento natives.
The real human tragedy in this country is not migrants, it's homelessness. Why?
I left Sacto in 2000 as it was already becoming overun. This was when it was open fields between Mack Road and Elk Grove and the old Arco arena had yet to be encroached by all of the subdivisions in Natomas.
This country has enough people. It's time to push the brakes on population growth before the whole country is ruined with unrelenting urban sprawl.
*unrelenting SUBurban sprawl
We need a war to do that. A world war
Yea agreed it’s sad to see