@Geoff. Can you do a video on what if this region became its own State. State of Roosevelt. Name is Based on its mix of classical progressivism and modern Conservativism. Rich National and state parks.
@@JTL1776 How would the contradiction you're building in work though? I don't think there are many people who are forward thinking in some areas but backward looking in others-sort of like left foot trying to walk on while right foot is stuck to the ground or even moving back :)
If u live in america and are west of alabama and below the 32 parallel it is technically a geographically accurate statement to say mexico is north south east and west of u since tj is at 32 and cancun is about on the same longitute as alabama
I spent 3 months on a job in the northern edge of the forgotten coast. Every weekend I went for long solo hikes, often never seeing another human being. I would follow old trails for hours and suddenly break out onto a stretch of uninhabited beach. It was the happiest I have ever been in loneliness.
For those that have never seen it, Crater Lake will absolutely blow your mind. I've never seen a picture that is anywhere near what seeing it in person is like. It's like an alien world, it's so incredibly stunning.
Crater Lake sure is stunning. And not far from there are giant redwood forests. If you've only ever seen regular sized trees, then walking around in there is like an alien world too.
Now don't say something so honest and simple, the people of UA-cam won't get it. I mean there's one guy saying that it's so great because people don't live there. Oh yeah, that's real super.
I used to live in Humboldt County, California-one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been to. It’s a difficult place to live for a variety of reasons but it’s absolutely worth visiting, and not just the redwoods. The Trinity Alps Wilderness is incredible, it’s just as beautiful as many national parks but you can be ALONE in the wilderness-a very special experience.
Why is it a difficult place to live? I've been looking into Siskiyou, Humboldt & Trinity county seeing as I love the outdoors & some areas are fairly affordable for someone who's self employed / remote like myself. Aside from fires and droughts what's the real concern?
Moved from Vancouver Canada to Humboldt county in 2001... lived in Humboldt for 20 years!!.. LOVED IT.. worked for Kym Kemp (Redheaded Blackbelt) for 3 - 4 years !!!
@@obomasinladen I grew up and still own property near the Humboldt/ Trinity county line. Very few good jobs, cold winters, hot summers, not very good schools, drugs, poverty, etc…. If you have a good county job or something else profitable and don’t get mixed up with the wrong people it’s a great place to live and grow up.
@@obomasinladen I agree with High Spin overall. If you have a remote job that pays well then it's a lot easier. There aren't a lot of good local jobs, though the cost of real estate is much lower than in the rest of CA. Utilities are expensive (propane, gasoline, internet, electric--though electric is cheap if you're on TPUD). It can also be difficult to find places to live, though if you can afford to buy a home it's better (but not great). Fires are a big issue outside of the Humboldt Bay area, and it's getting harder to get homeowner's insurance in some areas. Flooding can also be an issue on riverfront properties. The schools are generally not good, so if you have kids it's not ideal if traditional education is something you value. I would NOT recommend Siskiyou at all though. It might seem cheaper than Humboldt or Trinity but the QOL is lower, the drugs and poverty problems as worse, and the community is not as good. Medical care is also not great if you need anything besides the basics. You asked about problems... I did love it overall though and would definitely consider moving back if I had a well-paying remote job.
I broke down in -Jefferson- that area once. We were in the middle of an interstate move, with all our stuff in a trailer. The situation was awful, yet the small town mechanic was a hero, the historic motel was gracious, and everyone we met was kind to us outsiders. A scary situation became fond memories. edit: fixed a grammatical imprecision. To all those who were too lazy to read the 187 similar snarks for the past year, yes, I know it's a local culture movement and not an official place name. I was just trying to say something positive about nice people. Lighten up.
@@tootsla1252 Ask anyone who lives there. But, yes, I know what you mean. I visit the area frequently. It's still just a popular, relaxed, persistent movement, and not "official" for whatever that's worth.
As someone who spent almost their whole life living in Northern California, I will admit that it's not as exciting and glamorous as the more urban regions. On the flip side, less population means that it's easier to get to know the other people that live in the area, form stronger friendships, and take part in community gatherings and events. Overall, it's a peaceful life. Don't get me wrong, I do like the urban regions as well, but they're mostly fun just to just visit for a few days, long term residence would only be enjoyable for a few months at most.
Eureka, CA resident for 6yrs. The shut down didn't bother this introvert and the nearby state/national parks were almost always empty making for perfect solo adventures.
Thirty six years ago I left a hard life in Southern California to live in Humboldt County. I never looked back. The quality of life that I've enjoyed here would have been unattainable in So. Cal. even if I were a multi-millionaire. I spent my time here building furniture, learning dance, and riding horses. Now my wife and I are talking about retirement. We want to build furniture, dance, and ride horses.
@@donnajoyvigil157 It depends on what you want. Inland summers are warmer, winters are cooler. Eureka has Costco, Target, and all the grocery stores you might want. Arcata has Cal Poly Humboldt, and is a lively university town with a great farmers market. One of the best music festivals in the nation happens the first weekend in October in Eureka. The outlying towns are very rural, in a beautiful setting. Fishing, hunting, and hiking opportunities are world class. One of the best things about life here is the accessibility of everything. In So Cal traffic ruled my life. It was a factor in everything I did. Here, I do what I want, when I want.
@@wintercook2 just keep in mind that ability to get health care as you age and how small of a town you want to live in. Underrated as a thing to think about, and adding insurance for life flight.
I grew up in the middle of that whole section. Fun fact, every single person that lives in that area will claim San Fran is not Northern California. They will adamantly claim it's central.
Redding, Ca resident here! This is so completely true. When folks refer to SF as "Northern California" it largely feels like the actual north of Ca is just totally forgotten about and overlooked. Interesting that people refer to it as the "empty West" because it's not actually "empty".
I always found that odd too. I spend my early 20s living in the Bay Area. I went backpacking up the coast and went to Redding too. I loved that area. When I tell ppl in LA that I've been too Northern California, they say "Oh, I love San Francisco!" I'm always confused then I tell them I love the bay area too that I lived there but I meant NORTHERN California.
I lived in the Rogue Valley for 8 years. It is an undeniably gorgeous geographic region. If access to wild lands and epic scenery is a priority, it’s hard to beat.
Things are probably different now, (and the temps are certainly higher) but when I lived there in the early/mid '80's you could leave after work on a Friday to go camping and STILL find many primo spots, even by the river. I'm glad I got to experience that! Great stuff!
Correction deep water ports: the town of Coos Bay, Oregon is the largest ocean facing town between Fort Bragg and Victoria BC and a deep water port that’s getting revitalized. It’s now being dredged to accommodate larger ships and has a direct rail line to Eugene. The areas of Bandon, and Coos Bay could easily be much much larger if that industry takes off. As someone from this area, southern Oregon Coast, I can say the lost coast is on next level sparsely populated. There’s one town of 500 in 120 miles of coast line. It’s kinda incredible.
The Port of Coos Bay is closer to Asia than any of the other deep water ports on the U.S. West Coast. When I grew up there, it was the World's Largest Lumber Shipping Port. It was like Las Vegas with logs and ran 24/6 with Sundays off.
Its always amazed me living here how that port has been slept on and mismanaged for so long. In addition to what you already stated, there has been a big push to get a shipping container operation started up here as a response to the supply chain shortcoming revealed by Covid Lockdowns. Still all of that work seems to be going at a snails pace, and in the meantime they're wasting potentially valuable dockspace to build that stupid minimall. I'm not holding my breath on the efforts to overhaul the port. If they ever doing wind up bringing any windfall, I'll probably be too old by then to benefit from it.
And yet, there is no work there, the californians and others came, ruined our industries, devastated the region so that anyone wanting to support their family had to move away. These towns were prosperous for generations until the earthquakes sent assholes north to do to Oregon and Washington what they did to southern California and San Franfeaksville. Instead of coming, being a part of what made these places beautiful and special they brought their social poison and destroyed town after town that to this day have never recovered. Douglas Country north of Coos Country was for decades the worlds largest timber exporter, then they came, the last 40 years, one of the riches countys in the country is one of the poorest. Stores, replace with junk stores and 2nd had shops, utter poverty. They called this progress, we called it, invasion.
I grew up in the Rogue Valley. Summers could be rough because smoke would settle in and take forever to clear out, but it's proximity to so many different places/geographies is unparalleled.
I grew up in Brookings, that whole region is some of Americas most wild and beautiful. It’s empty for the simple fact it’s so mountainous. It’s the convergence of multiple mountain ranges including the Sierra Nevadas, Cascade, Siskiyou, Klamath, Oregon Coast range and California Coast Range. Rivers run clean and fast, trees grow to dizzying heights and the coast is steep and rugged. It will likely stay remote indefinitely due to the lack of developable land and the expense of expanding infrastructure in such mountainous terrain.
Grew up in Brookings during the eighties and early nineties. Left out of HS for the military and have been back a few times. Beautiful area but I always hated the early morning fog and rain. Not to mention the mold.
I live in the empty west, on the Oregon coast. I've seen a lot of people move here, and then leave again, because they can't handle the 9+ month rainy season. Also, the lack of infrastructure is real. If highway 101 is closed, I'm stuck at home, and can't get anywhere. There is no alternative route. Phone coverage is also spotty, and our local cell tower doesn't have backup power. So in the winter, it's not uncommon to be stranded at home, with no power or phone.
As someone planning to move there, I absolutely love the thought of a near never ending rainy season. Will take some adjusting to but I am excited to live somewhere with relative water security.
@@ianstuart5660 I love it here. Especially in the winter, when the tourists are gone. It's definitely paradise for the right kind of people. I think we've only had one day above 70 degrees so far this summer.
@@robrod7120 For six months a year, you're right. But we can go months in the summer without any substantial rain. Also, if it's hot inland, it gets colder as you approach the shore. I drove from Salem to where I live a few summers ago, and it was 107 there, 89 at the east side of the coastal range, 70 at the town limits and 57 at my house a few blocks from the beach. Hot air rises and pulls the air off the water. It's rather remarkable.
As a Southern Oregon resident, another huge factor is the road conditions. There’s not a straight road in the area. From highways to the i5 corridor, it winds, is sharp and inclement weather or wildfires irritate the issue. Makes for transportation between cities quite bad. Things like a blown tire in an area with no cell signal possibly deadly in the wrong season.
Actually, i5 is not bad, and you can travel to Eugene, roseburg, etc, pretty good. You can call 911 without cell service, or you can flag someone down to help you worse case scenario. It truly is beautiful here.
It’s beautiful because few people inhabit it. I live in cali and every year I drive through this area on my way to Portland or Seattle. This is one of the last true wildernesses in the lower 48. I hope it stays this way
This is where I live, remotely in the Oregon Coastal Range (I moved 10 years ago from further south in CA in the same mountain range.) I have lived all over the USA, coast to coast, cities, mountains, beaches and deserts. This is the best place I have ever lived by far. I love the lack of people, the surplus of wilderness and wildlife. Dark skies, some of the most amazing coastline in the world. Living here is not convenient. An hour drive one way to the nearest grocery store means we grow a lot of our own food. No public water means we cultivate different kinds of clean water collection systems. No cell service means we are not so tethered to technology. We regularly lose power for at least a week in the winter, so we installed a whole house generator. The roads are so bad, twisty with rock slides and regular falling trees that we get stuck sometimes for weeks. You learn to live more like a pioneer and you learn to love it. My next move will be my final move, into the next lifetime ;)
"striking" is an understatement. In 2021 I needed to drive from Sacramento to Yellowstone for business. I decided to drive through that western portion of Oregon that "has more in common with Nevada." My goodness, I was in awe for hours. It looked like a natural wonderland from a fairytale, the epic proportions of the landscape have no words that can accurately depict what it's like to experience it. There were several moments where I said out loud "Wow" to myself. I had no idea that region existed and my brain really struggled with that fact lol. That's how impressive it is. And as a frequent traveler, I can confirm it stands out as the most unique surprise I couldn't have ever expected. I thought I was just going to traverse Oregon. That means something totally different to me now, and I can't wait to do it again.
Just the drive north along I-5 has some pretty nice sights, and Mt. Shasta is a sight to behold, a giant white peak jutting out of the ground. The entire northern 1/3 of California is dotted with small towns and villages often near beautiful forests and mountains, it's ripe for remote-only workers to live in assuming telecom infrastructure is sufficient.
@@charlesritter6640 I lived in Denver for 37 years ( I was a long-haul trucker based there ) and made many trips to the Pacific Northwest. Over the years - people have often asked me "where was my favorite part of the country? " Although I loved living in Colorado - I always tell them - Oregon or southern Washington would be my next choice ! I always loved going there !
I was born and raised in Northern California. I loved taking road trips up the coast. When i asked the few residents that lived there why it was so sparse, they said that they saw the huge mistake Southern California made. So, when developers came in they fought it tooth and nail and won. Because they saw that developers were interested they enacted laws that made it near impossible to buy land and build a home. Southern California had it’s beauties as well. But the people were more greedy and power hungry. So they eschewed the beauty for HUGE profits.
I'm a California runaway and I chose the North Coast of Oregon because just the idea of moving more than an hour away from the ocean makes me nervous. I work in healthcare so I feel honored to be able to help the smaller communities where it is hard to get workers. I have been here for 4 years now, first in Seaside then now in Astoria. I love the wild winter storms, the grey blue skies are calming to me instead of depressing especially with the emerald green land. I love the periods between storms when the sun cracks through and you can see the invisible bridge between the earth and sky in the form of the evaporation. In Astoria we have resident deer that wander through the neighborhood.
It's rare to find a Californian that actually appreciates the rain. Here in Eugene they always complain about it, forgetting that 8+ months of rain means fewer summer wildfires
@@knote4958 Yeah, after 20+ years of hot, smoggy, interminable summers in the Bay Area I appreciate the rain even more. I also love that we even get a few days of snow in the winter.
@@MilkMan317 I think the bears hang out over in the Cascade range more then the coast. Perhaps they could be in the southern coastal area around the Rogue river valley.
Eugene, OR is really part of the north block that includes Portland & Seattle, and not the empty part. Politics, economy and geography are very similar in Eugene and Portland, and there is a continuously populated river valley between the two with no mountains or other natural dividers. Once you get a little farther south to Roseburg, things are very different.
Yeah, we're basically tucked into the crook of the north end of the "empty west", right on the edge. South, West, and East of Eugene get more rugged pretty quickly, but the trip north to Portland is pretty much a straight shot.
I would say Eugene is where is starts to change between those two regions. Eugene and it's outter areas are pretty checkerboard as far as politics. It's also fairly small.
@@anthonyfisher6051 if you read carefully I include it's outter areas in my comment. It is a college town, but it's surounded by lots of old farm land. As someone from a larger college town (Tucson) and lived in even more conservative areas ( treasure valley ID) and now live outside of Eugene - it's kinda purple. I've met plenty of more conservative to solidly conservative folks in Eugene and it's surrounding areas.
At 13 years old I took a train ride with my Mom from Central Coast California to Portland Oregon. I was awe struck by the nature and scenery. It was like I discovered a new Biome. Honestly did not expect that beauty, highly recommend!!
I lived in San Francisco for 11years and was amazed at how a few miles north of the big city there's just a few one-horse towns and hundreds of miles of unspoiled forests, mountains and empty beaches.
I grew up in Chico and now live in Portland. I get to pass Mt Shasta frequently, and it takes my breath away every time. I've never seen a mountain more beautiful, stark, and ethereal. Nothing prepares you if you've never seen it before.
Have you seen Rainier? The climb over Buckley’s main hill is really such a view It’s a small, boring area but the start of the drive out to the mountain is stunning
@@latenightviews I grew up in Yreka with a view of Mt. Shasta from my front yard. My parents are still in the same home. 45 years later, I still take my family there often to visit the folks. In fact, I was there last week, driving south back to the airport. I'm still blown away by the beauty of Mt. Shasta and believe that sentiment will never change.
I grew up right in the middle of this place on the coast. I’ve been all over the world multiple times and this place is still the most beautiful place I’ve ever been.
@@invictaland1983 I grew up mostly in willits, but still work out of Noyo harbor, it's gotten more expensive to live there without multi generational wealth, such as a payed off home or land, but it is still really beautiful. Y
I live in Coos Bay, this coastal town feels like were on an island, even leaving town either direction you have to cross a bridge and then it is just forests for miles until the next small town. The whole Jefferson state area feels like it exists separate from the rest of the world. You can feel the shift in the air as you start leaving the trees and mountains behind.
It’s very odd, the culture there is very similar to the Deep South, lots of southern food, political views and even some accents. Visiting there really feels like going to an alternate universe.
Oh you’re lucky. I love Coos Bay Area, especially South if there! There is something’s special about the coast there. Mmm, Sunset Bay, the seals, and the lighthouse and then happening on Shore acres garden/park and the greenest hiking anywhere. It’s a place not of this world.
You seemed to have forgotten that huge swaths of Shasta and Trinity counties are comprised of federal forests. 2,210,000 acres is Shasta-Trinity forest. Folks don’t reside in these forests.
I was born and raised in Eureka, CA. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Humboldt Bay area as it's the only "city" we have on the coast but around here we refer to the parks as the Redwood Curtain. Feels like we are almost a decade behind the times with how slow things get up here. Loved the video though as most people assume Sacramento when you tell them northern California lol
@@originalname9999by coast standards it’s positively bustling, there’s not much bigger on Nor Cal / Oregon / Washington coastline. Only Coos Bay and Aberdeen are bigger.
I used to live in this region. I lived in a small town called Arcata in California. Absolutely loved it. Weather was amazing, people were nice, and I had access to everything I needed. I miss living there, but the prices are too high for me to live there anymore. Someday, I'll return.
I live in this area. If everyone would enlarge the map they would see the Great Pacific Northwest forests. Besides there isnt any industry in this area besides logging. It’s what has protected the Pacific Northwest from huge populations. Thankfully.
As someone who live in the area it is one of the most beautiful part of the United States and has some of the nicest people and sense of community anywhere around. If your even in California come visit Coloma (where gold was first discovered in California) and see the American river
That part of California is really nice. The Weaverville historical district is nice too, but I think the American and Feather River sites are better developed.
I bicycled through this area as part of a longer trip and having grown up around the crowded beaches of Southern California I was shocked to see hundreds of miles of essentially untouched beaches and coastline. It is truly one of the most beautiful places in the country.
I'm a biker and I've ridden through that region multiple times. The land between Redding, CA and Salem, Oregon is gorgeous. I really enjoyed the ride from Redding to Reno. It reminded me of Colorado and Wyoming
How wonderful....I lived in Cave Junction, Or. for two years, then in Crescent City, .ca. and opened a small business in the 90s😊...then lived in Brookings, Or. And worked with the Myrtlewood stores there. These years were some of the best of my whole life...Rt. 199 through the redwoods was my ride every day💖. I was feeling blessed every day of my years in this gorgeous place. Most people never heard of some of the tiny beautiful towns along the way...like Gasquet, .Ca. I never wanted to move.
I have lived in Arizona, California twice, Oregon twice and Washington state. I have driven through beautiful places across the USA. I have driven Interstate 5 from Mexico to Seattle. I have driven 1-5 from LA to Portland and back many times. I have driven coast highway 1 From Washington to San Diego. There’s just something about the drive from Reading to everywhere North of there that is just different than anywhere I’ve ever driven. It’s beyond beautiful but also mysterious, it’s hard to explain. Before I had my own RV I rented one and had the best vacation of my life. We Drove North on I-5 making some detours camping in the redwoods, crater lake, up North camping in the Columbia river gorge, etc. On the return trip we took the coast highway 1 South from Astoria Oregon to Santa Barbara. This is Probably the most beautiful drive on earth. Our vacation was 2 weeks and felt very rushed. 2 months would have been much better. There’s so much beauty and nature to see and explore. If you’ve never hiked through a Forrest of giant redwoods, you haven’t lived. The first time i experienced it as a child I couldn’t even say WTF, I was speechless. If your adventurous and love nature and this isn’t at the top of your bucket list for trips, you might reconsider. Damn, it’s back on top of mine again. Save travels.
Man you named off a lot of places I know haha. I grew up in northern California, lived in Santa Barbara, then Prescott, AZ, and have since lived in a few places around Phoenix. We are getting the Black Bear Diners around Arizona now, but having grown up going to the originals a lot, it bums me out that they don't provide the same feel here as they do up there where they're sort of 'good 'ol boy' types of diners in small towns. The decor and newspaper menus don't really reach people here like they do up thwre
I live in Klamath Falls, surprised you didn't mention this area. Volcanos, Volcanos, Volcanos have changed this topography and made it hostile to farming. A conservative area of the west, this area truly has its own identity.
As someone who just went to a family members wedding in Guerneville, CA, it is one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever seen, and I’ve lived on multiple continents.
I had acreage above Guerneville with awesome views for 6 yrs and it was quiet but Sonoma Co is not so great a place to live now with Sustainable Dev Agenda 2030 policies in the rampage! But so I know the beauty you speak of but now live in S. Oregon, Rogue River Valley and it’s way less congested with ppl, further from metropolis’s and SF Bay Area. Better and still gorgeous!
I'm from that area (southern Oregon), I haven't watched the video yet, but it's such an inversion to what I know now that I've escaped and live in a larger city on the coast. Lots of drugs, racism, poverty, etc. It's a genuinely cursed place when it comes to people, but it's also one of the most naturally beautiful places in the world, in my opinion.
I live in this region (Del Norte) and the infrastructure struggles are real, the we have three ways out of town, and one is always under construction because it is slowly sliding into the ocean. Also, a single redwood tree falling on the highway does an incredible amount of damage. But you can't neglect that even where infrastructure exists, a lack of economic opportunity means there's little other than natural beauty to attract people to much of this region, particularly the various smaller towns along the coast and highways. This lack of economic opportunity coincides with a lack of healthcare, poor education, little in the way of public or private services, and an environment that is thoroughly inhospitable to the unsheltered.... As beautiful as it is It's not a great place to be starting out life unless you are fairly well off already.
I love the coast along Crescent City and Brookings. There was a great little restaurant in Crescent city owned by a Portuguese gentlemen who made one of the best Cioppino's I've had. Love that town!!!!! Funny, I was the guy that bought the right-of-way to widen a County road in town.
@@paintingmama7761 it's mostly contained now. We got a heavy rain about a week ago that helped a lot, but traffic is still limited going over the border.
@@gasquetmike8320I never said it was impossible to enjoy living in this area, nor that you have to be rich to do so.... Being fairly well off doesn't mean you are rich, it means you are relatively stable and capable of providing for yourself. There's a difference between moving here with a decent job and house lined up versus moving here with a hope and a dream but no job, skills, house, or family. I'm not even middle class, but I still enjoy living here because it's a beautiful area with easy access to camping, fishing, kayaking, and basically anything you could dream of as an outdoors lover.... I live close enough to all these activities that I can spend the day at the river, catch sunset at the beach, have a bonfire and then sleep in my own bed for the cost of a gallon or two of gas. If that's your dream, them you certainly don't need to be rich to generally enjoy living here. That doesn't change that there are many cities with more job opportunities than crescent city has people, healthcare often requires travel (if you can even afford to access it), nor that many of us in del norte struggle to make ends meet with the available opportunities.
I lived in crescent city California and Brookings Oregon . Both places are probably the most beautiful places in America . Crystal clear rivers and beautiful hiking trails . You won’t find anything more beautiful than the ocean views. I do miss it but after being diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis (hereditary) I had to travels 8+ hours to San Francisco every other month to get procedures done because health care in that part of the state is almost non existent. Now the bad meth is rampant and homelessness is everywhere it’s crazy to see because for small towns there are ALOT of them .
Damn! The same is here where I wound up moving to, meaning meth hears all over the place. It's a nationwide problem, not just a rural America problem. Same crap was killing San Diego, CA as well. I was born and raised in southern CA, both in cities and in rural areas. CA and OR were just too expensive to move to. I wanted back into forest in the worst of ways. I wound up in S.E. Kentucky in the Appalachian Mountains. The fact is I miss western evergreen forests BIG time, and I sorely miss clean, clear streams, creeks, rivers and lakes. Everything here is full of suspended silts that make the water ugly. Health care where I am is shaky at best and deadly at it's worst. To get really decent care you have to drive 1 1/2 hours to Lexington!
@@jazzcatt I grew up in a small town in pa on the Appalachian Trail. I miss it there no where near as many tornados health care was better but even there the problem they have there is with heroin . Within 4 months of being in California 6 people that I went to high school with had overdosed and died . I do really miss Oregon and that part of California it’s never really hot and the views and the rivers are crystal clear but everything else kinda sucks anymore . It’s turning into no place is really any better as far as drugs go .
I live a little north of those in Gold Beach, OR though I'm not home much being a trucker. But last time I was home a few weeks ago I noticed way less homeless in Gold Beach. Not sure whatever their doing, but it seems to be helping. Good places to retire, if you have a good retirement fund, otherwise jobs are pretty limited out there. Eventually I've been looking into moving over to Klamath Falls. I only lived in Gold Beach to help out with my grandma, but she passed back in March. Gonna stick around with my mom and stepdad, help get the house fixed up good. Then migrate over to an area I prefer. Especially since the company I drove for is based out of Central Point. From my company yard to Gold Beach it's about a 3 hour drive when I take home time, only about a 70-80 minute drive to Klamath Falls. I prefer the mountains over the coast personally. Klamath Falls gets a lot more sunshine than the coast, plus I enjoy a bit of snow in the winter having grown up in Iowa and Utah. I've heard they also have a pretty good farmers market over there too. Tons of lakes in all directions, a big public park, lot's of hiking/hunting/fishing opportunities. Only other boon would be if the whole greater Idaho thing happens, kinda of a toss up. If it did happen I wouldn't be complaining, the policies out of Portland and Salem only seem to be making homelessness worse. I've noticed the situation in Medford is getting worse, more and more tent communities popping up all over the place, and more panhandlers standing on street corners. It's getting pretty bad in areas along the I-5 Corridor..
@@Demonoid1990 I like Gold beach it’s a cool town . I rode with the vagos a lot and we would go through there pretty often. I like the coast because of the views I could see the mountains in my back yard and ocean in the front . I grew up in Pennsylvania and lived there for 35 years before moving out to that part of Northern California southern Oregon so I liked not having the snow and it isn’t that cold in the winter. Plus I was up high enough of a tsunami hit . I lived in brookings right across from the booming site . If health care was a lot better when I retired I’d go back .
Accurate except for Eugene is NOT part of the State of Jefferson, nor is it separated from Salem or Portland as the Willamette Valley is where everyone does live. It starts in Douglas County 20 miles south and the change is very obvious if you drive through it. Have lived here my entire life.
Moved my family out to that area 6 years ago we tried Medford, Redding and Burny, it has been tougher than we expected. Headed back to our family in Ohio we tried the PNW. It will always hold a special place in my heart. Great video!
I live in the eclectic city of Ashland, Oregon. It is full of theater actors, college students, artisans, transients, buskers, rich people, and Joe Six-Packs. It has culture and a sense of community. If you travel twenty miles in any direction, it changes from hipsters to good ol' boys.
Corporations are buying up land, apartments, and houses. They can't raise the rent to the amount they want legally so they are evicting people left and right. Pretty soon this town will be nothing but rich people.
@@angel1431 I am 100% for weed being legal, but I rarely partake. That said, if and when I want some, it seems like there is a pot shop every 500 feet.
I had a friend move to eastern Oregon to work for the forest service. I got to visit him in the high desert / Oregon outback and to this day cannot get over how untouched, sparse and beautiful that part of Oregon is.
Come to Joseph Oregon. The lake is pristine and never very crowded. I'm sure that's why Jack Black came here last year. Had a blast fishing and chatting with the locals. Very sweet guy I'm sure he'll be back. It's so low key especially for someone that famous. I hope Pearl was on her best behavior. 🙏 She's a local gal born and raised here and works at the little store. Boy she can be sooooo cranky with our visitors and locals alike. Don't take it personally if she gets cranky. 😅🎉
I just spent the weekend on the Lost Coast and was taken back how such a beautiful place could be so sparsely populated. Thank for this video and answering a lingering question I had as to why that was.
The sad part is, it will remain beautiful precisely because it's not ideal for giant population centers. Population brings land development, which tends to disrupt and scar the landscape.
@@johnbrattan9341 : He does have a point to a certain degree. There is legal growers (white). Illegal growers (black). And mixed.(Grey). The legal growers are having a hard time making money. The black market is where the money is at. That's the ones I assume he refers to.
@@wopalongcassidy Hilarious! Why assume. Instead of giving your ASSUMPTIONS to me.... Ask "him," who "does have a point to a certain degree." Who are you people?
Redding, Ca resident here! When folks refer to SF as "Northern California" it does largely feel like the actual North of Ca is just totally forgotten about and overlooked, hence the prominence of State of Jefferson ideals that run rampant up here. The representation really isn't there, I'll admit. I'm not at all a part of the State of Jefferson pipedream, but I do live in the most strongly conservative county in California (Shasta County) and it can be really tough. And that's why SF really is more like Central California. I think Ca as a whole can be more accurately described by North-Central-South rather than simply North and South. Because believe me, the politics from here in true Northern Ca to SF just 3 hours South of us is STARK. Interesting that people refer to it as the "empty West" because it's definitely not actually "empty". There are hundreds of thousands of folks living here from county to county, and NorCal is home to rich Native populations here as well! Hupa, Wintu and Yurok most notably.
Being a Central Coaster, I'd say the mix is a lot more diverse here. It breaks down city to city. SLO, Los Osos and Morro Bay is quite left, but Atascadero and northward is very right leaning.
San Fransisco and Redding CA have nothing in common. SF is far more central CA then northern CA. Redding is the Saudi Arabia of water yet the Governor wants to cut our water use by 27% and the Bay Area by 3%. SF knows nothing about timber management and therefore create Billions of dollars of timber to burn each year along with good peoples homes. It is far past time the Red counties in CA and Blue counties hold a vote. Red or Blue and split accordingly. We are far to divided to coexist.
If it weren’t for that pesky but seemingly unavoidable Cascadia Subduction, what a perfect place to establish a post-apocalyptic settlement. I live in Colorado and thought we had the most beautiful vistas in America but, holy crap, this section of the US is epic!
I flew to Denver to buy a vehicle and drove it all the way back to the west coast. Driving west bound looked fucking amazing to say the least. So much green/foliage/vegetation/mountains. Utah was cool too, stayed at circlesville pit stop. Once I got to NV/CA looked like ass and so were the drivers.
A Cascadia subduction earthquake is due likely to happen within a fifty-year time frame from now, according to some geologists. Due to its nature, it is believed to be in excess of a 9.0+ magnitude, which would leave the region uninhabitable for many weeks, if not months. A lot of bridges transverse the area and would be brought down by landslides and unstable soil base. Fires, gas leaks, and power outages will be a thing. Food and commodities would become scarce in short order because of no roads, unless supplies can be delivered by air, pending operable communications on the ground. The coastal communities can't build inland because of the forested mountainous terrain that borders the towns. As a result, the tsunami that will be generated will submerge what the quake hasn't destroyed, hence, isolating those places.. Deaths would be inevitable because tsunami-strenghth shelters are not adequate in most coastal communities and less than ten minutes is the estimated time frame of a Cascadia subduction-generated tsunami strike. A devastated infrastructure would hinder an already slow rescue response across the region.
One of my favorites part of the country, particularly Redwood National and State Parks and Samuel Boardman State Scenic Corridor. I’d like to explore more parts - Crater Lake, Lassen, etc.
I live in Boonville, Northern California, and growing up here was the best. Things have changed for the worst in the past 20 years because big money vineyards have completely decimated the land and don't give anything back ito the community. Millions of dollars are made off the land and the people, yet we have little to no housing, no community center, a run down school, and its sports program that needs money for uniforms or new scoreboards. What a shame to watch paradise lost.
I went to boarding school in Boonville. I haven’t been back there in years. Anderson Valley was gorgeous back then, it was a great place to go to school. I’ve heard it’s not the same, especially not on the school property. And I guess Hendy Woods has dried up. What a shame! We had so many excellent trips to go swimming there. I knew there were vineyards there, we were surrounded by 🍎 APPLES! Wow I’m sorry to hear that. You speak Boont? I hope the Horn Of Zeese and at least Jack’s Ace Hardware is still there! ✨🥰✨. Stay blessed.
@WhiteWolfBlackStar , Yeah I harp a slib of boont. 5th generation to live here. Unfortunately, the Horn of Zeese is a wine bar. Jack's Valley Stlore is there, but it's a different owner.
@lesaamoore , In the beginning I believe some folks did approach them, to no avail. When owners don't live here, it proves to be difficult. Now, the majority of people living here are afraid to approach the owners in fear of loosing their job, perhaps, or maybe they don't care.
@@JeffreyKB So frustrating for those who do care I’m sure. Sounds like your congressman and town council need to get in gear. We have a strong school and parks system in my city. Residents tend to approve taxation bills that target wealthy landowners and corps. Feels like we pass school bills every few years. Being a tourist destination, they also have particular laws for higher min wages for hotel workers. Boonville gov and your councilman should be receiving persistent calls to find solutions.
I was born in Grants Pass in 1959, as were my parents (1929 & 1936). My mom’s father was born there in 1901, and his mother in 1874. My great aunt’s husband owned Spalding & Son lumber company. So my roots are fairly deep. But we left when I was 7. Many enjoyable visits since then, and I still have an aunt and a couple of cousins there. It’s beautiful. My mom is buried in Granite Hill Cemetery. But with the awful heat in the summer, wildfires, the homeless issue, and no money for infrastructure, I’m glad I don’t live there now.
Recently myself and a friend drove north past Mt Shasta on a clear night with a full moon lighting up the entire ice-covered surface of that giant. What a presence it had that night. I have passed by it many dozens of times in the daylight and moonless darkness, but this last time was impressive
"A friend and I drove" Basically, take out the other person and if you'd say, "I", such as "I drove," you use "I". You wouldn't say, "Myself drove," so you shouldn't say, "Myself and a friend drove ." You COULD say, "I drove myself," but "myself" is an understood subject of "I" and isn't required in the sentence. It's like saying, "I drove Ed to the store." I drove Ed to the store. "I" is doing the driving. "Ed" is who was driven. I drove myself to the store, "I" is doing the driving. "Myself" doesn't get to drive because "I" is driving. So, "A friend and I drove to the store" or, "I drove with a friend to the store," are the correct ways to convey that through both speaking and writing. "I drove a friend to the store," is grammatically correct, but this sentence can be confusing because now "in a car" becomes the understood part of the sentence and is left out. You didn't drive your friend, you drove (in a car with) your friend. It's like, "I drove (myself)". The main thing is, "Myself" doesn't get to DO anything. OK. Everyone, feel free to hate away. Someone will read that, learn something, and start speaking and writing English more correctly. I'm happy with helping THAT person.
@@Texas240@Texas240 look up the difference between linguistic prescriptivism and descriptivism. The point of language is communicating ideas clearly. If there's no ambiguity or confusion (and I don't believe in this case there was) then it's as correct as it needs to be. If everyone started saying it the "wrong" way and everyone understood what it meant then it would just become the new "proper" way to say it. Every language has weird quirks in it that at one point were considered incorrect but no longer are. Every language changes. It's quite possible that in the region where the original commenter is from, most people say it the way they did. There's nothing wrong about it, it's just different. Things being technically incorrect doesn't matter in communication; the only practical concern is if one has to talk to someone who will tell them they said it wrong, despite understanding perfectly well what they meant, and make a big deal out of it. It's like how everyone knows what "can I use the bathroom" means, and the only time most people would say "may I use the bathroom" is if they're asking a teacher who is going to make a big deal out of it and make them "correct" their "mistake" lol
I was there recently, from PA. Flew to SF, drove to Oakland Hills area, visited friends, then drove to Multnomah Falls, stopping many times along the way through the Empty West. Loved it. Majestic.
bwilderd, awesome sights. I hope you drove up the Oregon coast and not I-5. The coast is breathtaking. I want to take a motorcycle southbound down the coast. That way I can pull over and take pics all the way down Oregon.This may be the most beautiful coastline in the world? Maybe not but it is beautiful and breathtaking. Watch out for Oregon's "sneak waves" named by locals.
I'm at Lake Erie wine region. My dad's family all lives out on CA coast. Mom was preg w me. My G'ma was a bitch we all hated. Mom, dad moved back here before I was born. I've been from LA to Portland, loved the visits. I robbed enough $$$ to move out there. My dad busted me! I love the coast. I broke into Penn State during Easter break. I stole all the college's rings! All gold rings. They were beautiful. He made me send them back. They had no clues. Bummer. Went out for Xmas, in LA. G'dammit. We get snow bad. Out there was like spring in winter. Met a gorgeous girl. Wanted her so bad.
I've lived in the western US for the majority of my life, but it took me until this summer to do a big old northern CA roadtrip. I've never heard of it referred to as the "Empty West" before (have you been to NV or WY or MT? Probably emptier) - but I definitely was delighting in how few ppl are up there and that real old Main Streets still exist, etc. Cheers to being on the road! 🥂
Born and raised in Baltimore. Lived in Humboldt/ Trinity in the lower section of six river national forest in 2017. One of the most beautiful places I have even been. Will never forget my time living there. He's not kidding about the tallest and oldest trees in the world. I saw douglas fir and cedars the size of the redwoods up in the mountains, some of which had been burned 50 percent of its trunk but the tops were still alive and thriving. The madrone trees were also a sight ot behold. I had never seen the night sky more clear than when I lived out there, you could see the whole milky way. Vastly different than growing up living in the east coast in big cities. So many cool things i saw out there including Mt Shasta from about 200 miles away on a montain top close the where i was living. could also see Mt.Lassen and the Pacific Ocean all from the same spot. I got lost hiking the redwood national forest near Orick, completely alone one day hiked easily 10 miles in around noon time and didn't make it back to my car untill 2 hours after sunset, was still on a trail and was a full moon,but man it was dark,and i was scared shitless. lol Thought "bigfoot" was going to get my ass lol....after living out there, you can see why people would belive creatures like that exist.
I not only like your videos with great info but how you gently plug the ads, there is an art to it. Some content providers will slam the ads like a cold doctor's office with a robot not even trying to blend it in. Good job on all you do.
I arrived at this video after watching a few about the Cascadia Fault Line just off the Pacific Northwest Coast. I am now thinking it is probably a good thing that this area is so unpopulated. Also, as a foreigner who enjoys visiting areas of wilderness that are untouched by the human hand, I find it fascinating that, despite being one of the most technologically advanced continents on Earth, North America still has some of the most beautiful areas of outstanding natural beauty on the planet.
We had an earthquake last December and Humbolt County lost power for seal hours and many homes near the epicenter- Mendocino triple junction were damaged beyond repair. Then there is the ongoing crumbling coastline. They still haven't finished Last Chace Grade from two winters ago.
@mozellewilliams6382 indeed. I live in CC, born and raised, and last chance grade is a Neverending saga I swear. Driven thru it countless times too and from Klamath or humboldt
It's actually pretty sad how many people don't know it snows in CA in the Northern and North East parts of CA. The bay area really isn't all that North. More in the middle.
My family has vacationed to this exact place in the US every year for the last half decade, and plan to continue to do so for the foreseeable future. The lack of people in this area is one of the big draws, but the unique geography smooshes all our favorites together. We absolutely love it there!
i visited the area a couple months ago and honestly its one of the only places i could travel to repeatedly and not get sick of it. pretty and peaceful, nothing like its vibes
I lived in the Medford/Grants Pass area for many years. As you mentioned, the geography is challenging if you hope for population growth. The coastal areas of N. Cal and S. Oregon are very difficult to get to. There is no easy, high speed highway access. It's all curvy mountain roads that can be somewhat treacherous to travel. To get to Southern Oregon, you have to traverse Siskiyou Summit from the South or a series of smaller passes to the North. Again, it can be difficult mountain driving in either direction so it's not easy access by any means and it's a great place to be land locked. In addition to the travel logistics, the weather is a huge factor for why there hasn't been more growth. Southern Oregon tends to be really hot in the summer and cold and dry in the winter so if you're coming from California (as we did), those conditions can be pretty harsh and not near as comfortable as the Willamette Valley or the Puget Sound areas further up the coast. And the challenge all rural areas face is that they are governed by politicians who cater to the city populations and largely ignore the unique needs of rural communities. And a lot of people relocate away from the city to get away from some of the insane policies that are making those places difficult to live in but then find themselves still be subject to policies that are of no benefit to them. I hope the State of Jefferson gets their way. There's also a movement for parts of Eastern Oregon to be annexed into Idaho. All this fantasy camps face an uphill climb and few people want to see that much change happen in their lifetimes so it's an ongoing battle. Perhaps not hopeless but highly unlikely unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view.) Since 2020, with everyone going remote, there's been a massive population surge in the rural areas. For the people who moved there to escape city madness, this has been an unpleasant development. And with millions of people pouring into our Southern Border, the trends are likely to continue. It's sad to see recreational areas getting overcrowded but it is what it is. Fascinating history piece, thanks for sharing.
I consider myself fortunate to have grown up in Ashland Oregon. In the summer I would take a canoe out on Emigrant Lake to go fishing which was basically a 5 minute drive across the highway. In the winter I would drive up to Mt Ashland to go snowboarding which took about 35 minutes. It really is a beautiful and special place.
Fun fact: the entire coast of Oregon is a state park. Also, some of the best fish n chips come from the area. Small towns + local breweries make for a fun but chilled experience.
Two winters ago I drove through there on I-5 and also Hwy 101. There was extreme winter weather in the Siskiyou mountains, especially snow. There were vehicles in the ditch all over the place. So then we went over to the coast highway thinking it would be easier to drive because rain, not snow. But there were landslides blocking the highway for 100-mile segments. There was flooding also sometimes covering the highway. The whole time it was gorgeous, just difficult to travel. The people are great!
You must have your years mixed up, or your geography. There have been no 100 mile landslides/traffic jams on 101 in the 7 years I have been here. Wildfire smoke, yes, but no flooding or landslides (except for one tiny bridge that collapsed and required the long route for nearly a month.)
@@grannypantsification That actually happened further south on 101 near San Luis Obispo, so not actually in that part of the coast. We were driving from Seattle to San Diego and some things got mixed u in my mind. It wasn't a 100mile landslide, but a 100mi section of highway you couldn't get through, forcing very long detours.
@@josephliddle309 I see. That makes much more sense 😊 I’ve always thought it is amazing the human ingenuity that built a highway on the edge of a cliff with the ocean just feet away. On the southern Oregon coast it seems miraculous that the whole thing doesn’t just slide into the water😜 …and yet it is remarkably persistent.👍🏻💕
Its called the Last Chance grade, cliff hugging part of the 101 that keeps washing out. Its actually just a short distance before Crescent city but can cut off transportation for a good while. Cal trans is pretty good at setting up one way access but it still delays traffic and shipping trucks a lot.@@grannypantsification
This is funny to me, because I work for the Forest Service, and thanks to all those National Forests you mentioned, I swear 1 out of every 5 people I know professionally live in that "empty" chunk of the west. 😂 I never considered how empty it is of people otherwise.
@@savannah115 LOL. I live in Queens, NY also! [which is part of New York City.] It's okay to be different from your best friend. Maybe you can each visit each other and share a bit in each other's lives, while still going home to what you like best. My best friend lives on horse property in New Mexico -- way different than here in New York City. You and I have the same situation.😀
FUN FACTS ABOUT THE EMPTY WEST COAST: 1. Connecticut had once laid its claim to the California half north of the 41st parallel. 2. Massachusetts had once laid its claim to the Oregon half south of the 44th parallel.
A common problem in this country is perception. Many perceive ‘wealth’ as money, when I walked under and among the Redwoods as a young woman I believed myself to be an extremely wealthy and loved human being.
@@MiMiiViVi I grew up in Eureka, Humboldt County. In that area there are a lot of State and National Parks. You don’t want to get caught cutting or even picking up firewood or deadwood it’s against the law. The wine country is much farther south. Illegal growers are the biggest problem.
Have you ever traveled? This is not a uniquely American virtue. Wealth is valued on every continent on this planet. Barring some small indigenous tribes scattered thinly throughout the world, money is valued and needed everywhere.
As a resident of Redding CA at the north end of the Sacramento River Valley, I can tell you why people don't live here. It's because from mid-May through September, it's hot as hell. The job market is terrible from Sacramento on up, the high drug usage in the area and the homeless/transient population has tripled in the last decade. Plus, you have multiple state prisons within a couple of hours' drive. Once my kids graduate, I'm gone with the wind.
Gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill in Coloma on January 24th 1848, but the Rush did not start until 1849. They are termed "49ers." As someone who grew up in Sacramento, it is hard to believe that anyone talking about West Coast history could get this one wrong.
@@ArtamStudioTerminated, as did the Pony Express, in Sacramento. Sac used to be a nice town, but it's crappy now. So much anger. Drivers are the worst in the country, even worse than Massachusetts.
I adore Coloma and the whole Sutter's Mill historic area that sits there. I would often camp next door, on the American River, and just tool around experiencing the history of it all. Lovely area.
I used to live in the Seattle area and took a lot of roadtrips out to Arizona, Utah, Nevada, etc. So I went through the "Empty West" many times. I hope it stays relatively unpopulated as it's gorgeous, whether you're on the east or west side of the Cascades. A person could spend years exploring that region and seeing so many amazing things nature.
Well said! I've been there for years.. I get so much flack for being from California when visiting other states.. I'm like, yea, CA suck, don't go there with that attitude, haha. Very special place with unique and resilient people. Definitely not for everyone. I ont think most would get along in that area or would be quickly shewed away.
We’re looking to retire in this area….Redding on north to the Rogue River Valley. Sacramento has become too crowded with transplants from SoCal and the Bay Area.
As somebody who’s lived in Eureka CA their whole life, it’s so bizarre hearing about people talk about about visiting NorCal because when you live with the landscape your whole life it’s not really something you think twice about. The redwoods are just how trees are, just like the beaches are just how beaches are from my point of view.
Yeah, when you're from somewhere else and a "big tree" is something that you and one other person can hold hands and hug... then you stand next to an old growth redwood. Or having only seen the Gulf of Mexico and thinking you know what big waves are, then see a big winter storm swell on the North Coast. 🤷♂️... at least, that's how it is for me, even though I've been here for almost 22 years.
The ocean in eureka is so cold and angry. You should travel more. Baja CA has some calm warm waters during late summer and Palo Verdes trees are like ferns compared to a redwood. Humboldt has so much huge wild nature. Sad you take it for granted. I lived in Fortuna and eureka for about 15 years on and off and the massivenss of the redwoods never failed to impress me. Hope you get out a bit and find a new sense of appreciation for what you live with. It's really impressive
When I was a kid, my dad was an appliance tech for sears that was in the eureka mall. We moved outta CA in 98. I don’t think that sears is there anymore. We lived in Trinidad.
The main reasons I have seen living in the empty coast is, lack of well paying jobs, lack of medical care ( we drive 200+ miles to go to a larger hospital or to any specialty MD) limited shopping, limited places to eat out. Many of the small towns we have lived in had limited law enforcement. Due to low population and tax income, some departments have limited night hour shifts. We love the quiet spaces, clean air and some really nice people, but as I’ve stated some big draw backs, we have had a great doctor who moved away after less than a year because the family could not stand it.
What's really crazy is that the entire east coast from Portland Maine to Miami Florida is just one giant continuous urban sprawl. Over 100 million people live along I-95.
Really a little sad. But I know what you mean. Although living in Seattle as a youngster, we often visited our relatives north in Skagit Valley & on Lopez Island. My dad’s high school summer job was logging! Huge spans between the Pacific cities.
Well, not exactly. The Eastern shore of Virginia is not like that. If you drive through it, it's like driving through a country area where houses are sometimes a mile or more apart. The 70 mile stretch has less than 46k people living there. It may be because there aren't many beaches (more marshlike) and there and not many companies around. Also, a lot of it is low lying and can flood easily. Highest point is around 50ft above sea level.
Southern Oregon resident here. Despite the drug issues in some smaller communities, i absolutely love it here. The rivers and valleys never cease to amaze. Just good, quiet people eager to mind their own business.
As a resident of the "Empty West", my husband and I moved here after living 30+ years in Los Angeles. It's quiet, the forests are outstanding, the air is clean, the water is pure, the stars are beautiful and the sunsets are stunning. Can't see living anywhere else in California. Is it empty? Yes..thank goodness.
I live there, on the southern mid coast of Oregon. Many don't live here because it rains like crazy for at least 6 continuous months over winter time, often with strong winds. When it is not raining it is cloudy, damp and very chilly. Homeless people try to camp out and leave because all of their belongings get soaked.
I had a T-shirt once that said”Oregon, the Two Season State. Summer, warm rain, Winter, cold rain”. I lived in this area for many years and worked in several places within the boundaries stated, I called Redding home for several decades. Lived in Eugene, Klamath Falls and Keizer, a suburb of Salem. The 45th parallel actually ran through our house putting it half way between the equator and the North Pole. It is a beautiful.region but the big difference is the California portion has better weather whereas the Oregon part rarely saw the Sun between November and May. As for the viability of a State of Jefferson the area lacks the tax base and an economy that could be self sustaining. Just a d ream that can happen. It is the best area to get away from the crowded urban spaces and simply enjoy nature.
I grew up in the Willamette Valley as a kid. In elementary school, they were teaching us about the Oregon trail, and they did a simulated Oregon trail game in small groups over a span of a couple weeks. I specifically remember as like a 4th or 5th grader being devastated because my character drowned in a river LOL
I remember this! It wasn’t the video game that so many people remember. It was a live action role playing game that requires everyone to get into groups of 3 or 4 and that was your “wagon”. You then had to make decisions and vote on what to do at each turn. Most of the wagons in class didn’t make it.
That made me laugh..so sorry about your character! My husband and I used to visit pioneer cemeteries. Sometimes the reason someone died was chiseled into the stone like: "Drowned to save the child" or "Snakebit"... "Fell into a well" etc. I'd always leave cemeteries grateful that I live now, so I'd have a chance to get old.
I find it surprising that, while you mentioned the Cascades, you don't really discuss the Coast Range, which is an entirely different set of mountains which boxes in the Oregon coast, which is part of why there aren't many ways to get from the coast to the valleys. It also really limits the space coastal cities can expand into, which keeps them pretty small
I was born and raised in Southern Oregon, and am of pioneer stock, my 3rd great uncle (Jeremiah Cook) guiding gold miners from Sacramento through Cook & Green Pass into the Applegate Valley. In contrast to your title, this region is becoming too populated for my tastes. It's too bad there aren't more desolate places left any more.
@ramessesiisetepenre6017 That would be the Asian invaders, who paved the way for us mixed breed inhabitants, who paved the way for short sighted hypocrits. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana
the feeling of sitting in your bed in a fairly well populated town and then seeing your entire county get highlighted is an odd feeling. living in norcal has got me feeling like this place is very populated but honestly if you leave the city borders it’s just endless golden fields. (edit for spelling): i rly gotta stop making comments right after waking up. cant spell for shit without my glasses
That's where I was born (almost 80 years ago) and grew up. It had long been an area of underemployment, unemployment, and alcohol abuse. The two mainstays of the economy were fishing and lumbering; the former was destroyed by huge trawlers, and the latter by imports of low-priced Canadian softwood lumber imports. The influx of people who sold their houses in the greater San Francisco area and bid up the price of houses beyond what the locals could afford was also a serious blow.
Geoff, fellow Jeff here! I love your videos! They are solid! It’s great motivation as I am starting my own channel! Thanks for sharing such engaging content!
I am shocked that you didn't mention Coos Bay at least. It is the only sizable town on the Oregon Coast and is also a major fishing and lumber products port. You didn't mention the fishing or logging industries that have dominated the economy in the southern Oregon and Northern California for most of their history. Also, the geologic instability of the region - earthquakes and especially volcanoes dominate the entire Cascade and Coast ranges. That volcanic activity is, in part, why the area of the Shasta region (and the Willamette and Palouse further north) are such productive agricultural areas. Quite enjoyable for a quick 12 minute vid.
@@harley2die4 Being that I'm not a city guy at all, those things are moot. More worried about CA homeless using the 101 as a path to places like Brookings, Port Orford, Bandon, Coos Bay and so on up the coast. Portland might as well be on another planet as far as I'm concerned.
@@harley2die4 Lived in Coos Bay years ago....when you mentioned the cesspool of crime,etc...please tell me that you are referring to the larger cities in general. Would be saddened if that were the case for Coos Bay and the surrounding area. Thanks!
@@BossaNovaLife So sorry to hear that Coos Bay has not escaped the scourge that many small towns have become victim to. Thank you for your response and by the way you and Lola did a great job on your Vintage Trailer Rally excursion! New subscriber...glad to have found you.
Lifelong Oregonian here. I’ve been so lucky to have been to most corners of my state, and I love that it’s so quiet and rural in most spots. We’ve got a good thing going on. 😎❤️
I was raised in Yreka, a small town in Siskiyou county in Northern CA. The area is absolutely beautiful, but I moved to LA to persue a career and education, as there's little opportunity there. Drugs and homeless have really affected the area, being located on I-5. Very few people in the city comprehend such areas as these, sadly.
Keep up the Good Work Geoff! The world would be so much better off if people consumed content like this rather than endlessly scrolling tiktok or Twitter and never learning about the world they live in. Thank you for educating us with your love of Geography!
I live in Southern Oregon. Grew up on the coast. People move here, then leave because of the weather-too hot inland, no sunshine-fog, rain, windy winters on the coast, too far from bigger cities, limited medical services-experts, smoke from the fires every year, etc.
I've lived in this region my entire life. I've lived from one side of it to the other, to the coast. It's a beautiful area, vast, and truly wild. A great place for rural life living in America
I live in the redwoods state and national park near crescent city, ca and it is incredibly beautiful but unfortunately almost all towns nearby are crime infested with drug addicts and lacks job opportunities. Crescent city, Klamath, orick, arcata, even brookings could be so amazing.
You are lying about the drugs and crime. I doubt you even live there if you think it is that way as anyone that has been there knows you will almost definitely not find cleaner towns anywhere else. Maybe some annoying potheads doing drugs in the backwoods where they grow their weed, but definitely not going to find drug addicts in cities or any of them doing any crime.
@@KB-ke3fi You don't know wtf you're talking about. Our states have improved tremendously under the democratic administrations. The issues on the coast aren't of their doing, it mainly has to do with the collapse of the fishery and timber industries, along with tourism. Also republicans control much of the coast. They have had decades to improve our region. They could build more housing, they could invest more money into our economy, and they could actually take a hardline against profiteering. But they're against all of that. They're cowards who always bend the knee to the rich f**ks who keep our region down.
They are amazing, everywhere has problems it's just a matter of which problems. Crime and drugs are pretty much everywhere. The alternative is gentrification, hipsters, unaffordable housing, pretentious restaurants, traffic, McMansions blighting the countryside etc etc. Be careful what you wish for.
The Central-Southern Oregon Coast is easily my favorite vacation spot in the continental US. If you are all outdoorsy, it is a fantastic place to be with nearly endless beaches and lush forests to hike--you can literally pull right off of the 101 and feel like you're in another world. Bonus points that it is very rarely above 65-70 degrees. :)
This is where I live. If you can stand the 8 gray months of rain, fog, wind and such, it's a great place to live. But that's a huge IF, unless you've lived here most of your life. :) It's more of a vacation spot for most people during the 4 good months. hehe, we like it that way. Get out of the southern heat here in summer.
I live in Mendocino County in the area talked about. We love it because people don’t live here and it’s so beautiful and peaceful. Come visit any time or redwoods are amazing and magical.
It’s an amazing, beautiful area. The Oregon dunes are a LOT of fun. Sand boarding is great for families. The hiking and plentiful, sometimes empty beaches are incredible. Just drive up 101 and you’ll have many opportunities to pull off and go to many state parks and public easy-access beaches.
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@Geoff.
Can you do a video on what if this region became its own State.
State of Roosevelt.
Name is Based on its mix of classical progressivism and modern Conservativism. Rich National and state parks.
This state would become a Powerhouse for Quality Politics.
Realistically Progressive in climate and economics but conservative in socially and legally
@@JTL1776 How would the contradiction you're building in work though? I don't think there are many people who are forward thinking in some areas but backward looking in others-sort of like left foot trying to walk on while right foot is stuck to the ground or even moving back :)
7:54 god why did you just waste 8 minutes of my time.
If u live in america and are west of alabama and below the 32 parallel it is technically a geographically accurate statement to say mexico is north south east and west of u since tj is at 32 and cancun is about on the same longitute as alabama
I spent 3 months on a job in the northern edge of the forgotten coast. Every weekend I went for long solo hikes, often never seeing another human being. I would follow old trails for hours and suddenly break out onto a stretch of uninhabited beach. It was the happiest I have ever been in loneliness.
It's also one of the best places to ride a motorcycle in the entire world.
I want to go to there!
shhhhhh, don't tell them
It's a dirty place.
I am jealous!!
It's a beautiful place because people don't live there
Absolutely right
It's also difficult terrain to build on. Not for most people. Less people the better in my opinion 😌
@@slapdoctor707and more peaceful
You say that until you need dental surgery 😂
@@emanymor have a medical emergency
For those that have never seen it, Crater Lake will absolutely blow your mind. I've never seen a picture that is anywhere near what seeing it in person is like. It's like an alien world, it's so incredibly stunning.
I gasped when I saw it.
Crater Lake sure is stunning. And not far from there are giant redwood forests. If you've only ever seen regular sized trees, then walking around in there is like an alien world too.
It does just feel like it shouldn’t exist huh
I visited the lake in 1989 and I took the boat tour and it was unbelievable how far down you could see in the water.
The water was the bluest blue I've ever seen in my life.
Mountains. The reason is mountains. I saved you 11 minutes.
Now don't say something so honest and simple, the people of UA-cam won't get it. I mean there's one guy saying that it's so great because people don't live there. Oh yeah, that's real super.
OK, now google some video about Chongqing in China
yet somehow the phrase "Coastal Ranges" was never used
And active volcano lmao
Ya, this video is a lot like the state of reddit Geography sub. What's going on here, pointing to a mountain range. Duh.
I used to live in Humboldt County, California-one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been to. It’s a difficult place to live for a variety of reasons but it’s absolutely worth visiting, and not just the redwoods. The Trinity Alps Wilderness is incredible, it’s just as beautiful as many national parks but you can be ALONE in the wilderness-a very special experience.
Why is it a difficult place to live? I've been looking into Siskiyou, Humboldt & Trinity county seeing as I love the outdoors & some areas are fairly affordable for someone who's self employed / remote like myself. Aside from fires and droughts what's the real concern?
I live in Humboldt County now and you're right.
Moved from Vancouver Canada to Humboldt county in 2001... lived in Humboldt for 20 years!!.. LOVED IT.. worked for Kym Kemp (Redheaded Blackbelt) for 3 - 4 years !!!
@@obomasinladen I grew up and still own property near the Humboldt/ Trinity county line. Very few good jobs, cold winters, hot summers, not very good schools, drugs, poverty, etc…. If you have a good county job or something else profitable and don’t get mixed up with the wrong people it’s a great place to live and grow up.
@@obomasinladen I agree with High Spin overall. If you have a remote job that pays well then it's a lot easier. There aren't a lot of good local jobs, though the cost of real estate is much lower than in the rest of CA. Utilities are expensive (propane, gasoline, internet, electric--though electric is cheap if you're on TPUD). It can also be difficult to find places to live, though if you can afford to buy a home it's better (but not great). Fires are a big issue outside of the Humboldt Bay area, and it's getting harder to get homeowner's insurance in some areas. Flooding can also be an issue on riverfront properties. The schools are generally not good, so if you have kids it's not ideal if traditional education is something you value. I would NOT recommend Siskiyou at all though. It might seem cheaper than Humboldt or Trinity but the QOL is lower, the drugs and poverty problems as worse, and the community is not as good. Medical care is also not great if you need anything besides the basics.
You asked about problems... I did love it overall though and would definitely consider moving back if I had a well-paying remote job.
I broke down in -Jefferson- that area once. We were in the middle of an interstate move, with all our stuff in a trailer. The situation was awful, yet the small town mechanic was a hero, the historic motel was gracious, and everyone we met was kind to us outsiders. A scary situation became fond memories.
edit: fixed a grammatical imprecision. To all those who were too lazy to read the 187 similar snarks for the past year, yes, I know it's a local culture movement and not an official place name. I was just trying to say something positive about nice people. Lighten up.
There’s no such thing as “Jefferson,” it’s Southern Oregon.
@@tootsla1252 Ask anyone who lives there. But, yes, I know what you mean. I visit the area frequently. It's still just a popular, relaxed, persistent movement, and not "official" for whatever that's worth.
Idiot QAnons call it Jefferson.
@@tootsla1252 Right now most of us will take Jefferson or Idaho over anything associated with Portland.
@@DistracticusPrime Not anymore, we moved on to joining Idaho, we will not stop until we rid ourselves of Portland.
As someone who spent almost their whole life living in Northern California, I will admit that it's not as exciting and glamorous as the more urban regions. On the flip side, less population means that it's easier to get to know the other people that live in the area, form stronger friendships, and take part in community gatherings and events. Overall, it's a peaceful life. Don't get me wrong, I do like the urban regions as well, but they're mostly fun just to just visit for a few days, long term residence would only be enjoyable for a few months at most.
That’s one thing I hate about big cites that’s why I’ll never move to New York or la
Willits, CA representing!
@@Caspian_107 Oroville CA here
That and northern Californians aren't trying to take over real estate in other states like the southern Californians are. That's always appreciated.
Eureka, CA resident for 6yrs. The shut down didn't bother this introvert and the nearby state/national parks were almost always empty making for perfect solo adventures.
Thirty six years ago I left a hard life in Southern California to live in Humboldt County. I never looked back. The quality of life that I've enjoyed here would have been unattainable in So. Cal. even if I were a multi-millionaire. I spent my time here building furniture, learning dance, and riding horses. Now my wife and I are talking about retirement. We want to build furniture, dance, and ride horses.
Where in Humboldt County would you suggest for someone moving there today?
@@donnajoyvigil157 It depends on what you want. Inland summers are warmer, winters are cooler. Eureka has Costco, Target, and all the grocery stores you might want. Arcata has Cal Poly Humboldt, and is a lively university town with a great farmers market. One of the best music festivals in the nation happens the first weekend in October in Eureka. The outlying towns are very rural, in a beautiful setting. Fishing, hunting, and hiking opportunities are world class.
One of the best things about life here is the accessibility of everything. In So Cal traffic ruled my life. It was a factor in everything I did. Here, I do what I want, when I want.
@@wintercook2 just keep in mind that ability to get health care as you age and how small of a town you want to live in. Underrated as a thing to think about, and adding insurance for life flight.
@@questioneverything1776 Yes, doctors are in short supply here. Santa Rosa is four hours away.
I grew up in the middle of that whole section. Fun fact, every single person that lives in that area will claim San Fran is not Northern California. They will adamantly claim it's central.
Because hoo-boy is it.
Absolutely right
Redding, Ca resident here! This is so completely true. When folks refer to SF as "Northern California" it largely feels like the actual north of Ca is just totally forgotten about and overlooked. Interesting that people refer to it as the "empty West" because it's not actually "empty".
That's right!
I always found that odd too.
I spend my early 20s living in the Bay Area. I went backpacking up the coast and went to Redding too. I loved that area. When I tell ppl in LA that I've been too Northern California, they say "Oh, I love San Francisco!" I'm always confused then I tell them I love the bay area too that I lived there but I meant NORTHERN California.
I lived in the Rogue Valley for 8 years. It is an undeniably gorgeous geographic region. If access to wild lands and epic scenery is a priority, it’s hard to beat.
It's way too hot in the summer, but yes very beautiful.
Things are probably different now, (and the temps are certainly higher) but when I lived there in the early/mid '80's you could leave after work on a Friday to go camping and STILL find many primo spots, even by the river. I'm glad I got to experience that! Great stuff!
@@Doomer_Optimist Well you can go for a swim in the rogue river and you might even find a gold nugget.
Definitely very pretty. I like driving up in the mountains.
@@Doomer_Optimist The humidity is so low, though, that you hardly notice the heat.
Correction deep water ports: the town of Coos Bay, Oregon is the largest ocean facing town between Fort Bragg and Victoria BC and a deep water port that’s getting revitalized. It’s now being dredged to accommodate larger ships and has a direct rail line to Eugene. The areas of Bandon, and Coos Bay could easily be much much larger if that industry takes off.
As someone from this area, southern Oregon Coast, I can say the lost coast is on next level sparsely populated. There’s one town of 500 in 120 miles of coast line. It’s kinda incredible.
The Port of Coos Bay is closer to Asia than any of the other deep water ports on the U.S. West Coast. When I grew up there, it was the World's Largest Lumber Shipping Port. It was like Las Vegas with logs and ran 24/6 with Sundays off.
Its always amazed me living here how that port has been slept on and mismanaged for so long.
In addition to what you already stated, there has been a big push to get a shipping container operation started up here as a response to the supply chain shortcoming revealed by Covid Lockdowns.
Still all of that work seems to be going at a snails pace, and in the meantime they're wasting potentially valuable dockspace to build that stupid minimall. I'm not holding my breath on the efforts to overhaul the port. If they ever doing wind up bringing any windfall, I'll probably be too old by then to benefit from it.
This is actually great to hear!
And yet, there is no work there, the californians and others came, ruined our industries, devastated the region so that anyone wanting to support their family had to move away. These towns were prosperous for generations until the earthquakes sent assholes north to do to Oregon and Washington what they did to southern California and San Franfeaksville. Instead of coming, being a part of what made these places beautiful and special they brought their social poison and destroyed town after town that to this day have never recovered. Douglas Country north of Coos Country was for decades the worlds largest timber exporter, then they came, the last 40 years, one of the riches countys in the country is one of the poorest. Stores, replace with junk stores and 2nd had shops, utter poverty. They called this progress, we called it, invasion.
“The coldest winter I ever spent, was a summer in Bandon,” goes the quote.
I grew up in the Rogue Valley. Summers could be rough because smoke would settle in and take forever to clear out, but it's proximity to so many different places/geographies is unparalleled.
Rouge river and that area is so beautiful
I grew up there too! :-)
I have spent some time fly fishing out there, gorgeous country.
I grew up in Brookings, that whole region is some of Americas most wild and beautiful. It’s empty for the simple fact it’s so mountainous. It’s the convergence of multiple mountain ranges including the Sierra Nevadas, Cascade, Siskiyou, Klamath, Oregon Coast range and California Coast Range. Rivers run clean and fast, trees grow to dizzying heights and the coast is steep and rugged. It will likely stay remote indefinitely due to the lack of developable land and the expense of expanding infrastructure in such mountainous terrain.
I went to the 2 room school in Pistol River in the 80s.
My parents lived near Brookings for 25 years before they died
Brookings is cool for the fact it has redwoods. Oregon used have more :/
I’ve seen the famous Brookings Samurai sword. I think it was in the library.
Grew up in Brookings during the eighties and early nineties. Left out of HS for the military and have been back a few times. Beautiful area but I always hated the early morning fog and rain. Not to mention the mold.
I live in the empty west, on the Oregon coast. I've seen a lot of people move here, and then leave again, because they can't handle the 9+ month rainy season. Also, the lack of infrastructure is real. If highway 101 is closed, I'm stuck at home, and can't get anywhere. There is no alternative route. Phone coverage is also spotty, and our local cell tower doesn't have backup power. So in the winter, it's not uncommon to be stranded at home, with no power or phone.
A few hardy folks would love what you're describing!
As someone planning to move there, I absolutely love the thought of a near never ending rainy season. Will take some adjusting to but I am excited to live somewhere with relative water security.
@@ianstuart5660 I love it here. Especially in the winter, when the tourists are gone. It's definitely paradise for the right kind of people. I think we've only had one day above 70 degrees so far this summer.
@@robrod7120 For six months a year, you're right. But we can go months in the summer without any substantial rain. Also, if it's hot inland, it gets colder as you approach the shore. I drove from Salem to where I live a few summers ago, and it was 107 there, 89 at the east side of the coastal range, 70 at the town limits and 57 at my house a few blocks from the beach. Hot air rises and pulls the air off the water. It's rather remarkable.
@owlbuquerqueturkey Thanks, sounds very idyllic, and certainly looks the part too. Would love to visit someday. Best wishes from Canada!
As a Southern Oregon resident, another huge factor is the road conditions. There’s not a straight road in the area. From highways to the i5 corridor, it winds, is sharp and inclement weather or wildfires irritate the issue. Makes for transportation between cities quite bad. Things like a blown tire in an area with no cell signal possibly deadly in the wrong season.
Yikes
Actually, i5 is not bad, and you can travel to Eugene, roseburg, etc, pretty good. You can call 911 without cell service, or you can flag someone down to help you worse case scenario. It truly is beautiful here.
@@xBFUwolfpack yeah but anywhere beyond I5 had super spotty cell service
Are there radio repeater towers nearby? Sounds worthwhile to keep a VHF radio in the car
@@KPiimauna I think there are some
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It’s beautiful because few people inhabit it. I live in cali and every year I drive through this area on my way to Portland or Seattle. This is one of the last true wildernesses in the lower 48. I hope it stays this way
I’d say Maine is close as well
And the upper peninsula of Michigan for sure.
There is plenty of wilderness in the lower 48
No tf it's not lol there's plenty of wilderness In America what a clown comment.
@@Nxkamxbxms Yep, there's a ton of wilderness left. Much more than many other countries, especially in Europe and Asia.
This is where I live, remotely in the Oregon Coastal Range (I moved 10 years ago from further south in CA in the same mountain range.) I have lived all over the USA, coast to coast, cities, mountains, beaches and deserts. This is the best place I have ever lived by far. I love the lack of people, the surplus of wilderness and wildlife. Dark skies, some of the most amazing coastline in the world. Living here is not convenient. An hour drive one way to the nearest grocery store means we grow a lot of our own food. No public water means we cultivate different kinds of clean water collection systems. No cell service means we are not so tethered to technology. We regularly lose power for at least a week in the winter, so we installed a whole house generator. The roads are so bad, twisty with rock slides and regular falling trees that we get stuck sometimes for weeks. You learn to live more like a pioneer and you learn to love it. My next move will be my final move, into the next lifetime ;)
The lack of tech and power and walmarts are what keeps this area unpopulated thankfully
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Teach me your ways
Been living here for 40 yrs
The 707 area,hasn't split
@@Littletony525 you sound like a cave man lol
"striking" is an understatement. In 2021 I needed to drive from Sacramento to Yellowstone for business. I decided to drive through that western portion of Oregon that "has more in common with Nevada." My goodness, I was in awe for hours. It looked like a natural wonderland from a fairytale, the epic proportions of the landscape have no words that can accurately depict what it's like to experience it. There were several moments where I said out loud "Wow" to myself. I had no idea that region existed and my brain really struggled with that fact lol. That's how impressive it is. And as a frequent traveler, I can confirm it stands out as the most unique surprise I couldn't have ever expected. I thought I was just going to traverse Oregon. That means something totally different to me now, and I can't wait to do it again.
Like driving into another world all of a sudden. I've lived in northern Calif for 67 years and never had a reason to leave. Why would anyone want to.
@@richard3793 Why would anyone want to? Creeping communism?
Just the drive north along I-5 has some pretty nice sights, and Mt. Shasta is a sight to behold, a giant white peak jutting out of the ground. The entire northern 1/3 of California is dotted with small towns and villages often near beautiful forests and mountains, it's ripe for remote-only workers to live in assuming telecom infrastructure is sufficient.
Oregon is the 2nd most beautiful state in my opinion. Hawaii is 1st of course
@@charlesritter6640 I lived in Denver for 37 years ( I was a long-haul trucker based there ) and made many trips to the Pacific Northwest.
Over the years - people have often asked me "where was my favorite part of the country? " Although I loved living in
Colorado - I always tell them - Oregon or southern Washington would be my next choice ! I always loved going there !
I was born and raised in Northern California. I loved taking road trips up the coast. When i asked the few residents that lived there why it was so sparse, they said that they saw the huge mistake Southern California made. So, when developers came in they fought it tooth and nail and won. Because they saw that developers were interested they enacted laws that made it near impossible to buy land and build a home. Southern California had it’s beauties as well. But the people were more greedy and power hungry. So they eschewed the beauty for HUGE profits.
I'm a California runaway and I chose the North Coast of Oregon because just the idea of moving more than an hour away from the ocean makes me nervous. I work in healthcare so I feel honored to be able to help the smaller communities where it is hard to get workers. I have been here for 4 years now, first in Seaside then now in Astoria. I love the wild winter storms, the grey blue skies are calming to me instead of depressing especially with the emerald green land. I love the periods between storms when the sun cracks through and you can see the invisible bridge between the earth and sky in the form of the evaporation. In Astoria we have resident deer that wander through the neighborhood.
Bears?
It's rare to find a Californian that actually appreciates the rain. Here in Eugene they always complain about it, forgetting that 8+ months of rain means fewer summer wildfires
@@knote4958 Yeah, after 20+ years of hot, smoggy, interminable summers in the Bay Area I appreciate the rain even more. I also love that we even get a few days of snow in the winter.
@@MilkMan317 I think the bears hang out over in the Cascade range more then the coast. Perhaps they could be in the southern coastal area around the Rogue river valley.
I visited Astoria a few years ago. I loved it. It’s a gorgeous town. You’re lucky to live there.
Eugene, OR is really part of the north block that includes Portland & Seattle, and not the empty part. Politics, economy and geography are very similar in Eugene and Portland, and there is a continuously populated river valley between the two with no mountains or other natural dividers. Once you get a little farther south to Roseburg, things are very different.
Yeah, we're basically tucked into the crook of the north end of the "empty west", right on the edge. South, West, and East of Eugene get more rugged pretty quickly, but the trip north to Portland is pretty much a straight shot.
I would say Eugene is where is starts to change between those two regions. Eugene and it's outter areas are pretty checkerboard as far as politics. It's also fairly small.
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Actually no, Eugene is almost overwhelmingly left wing and liberal. A college town and known as “Baby Berkeley”. 🙂
@@anthonyfisher6051 Who would’ve thought a talk about geography and geological features would trigger a snowflake melting event.
@@anthonyfisher6051 if you read carefully I include it's outter areas in my comment. It is a college town, but it's surounded by lots of old farm land. As someone from a larger college town (Tucson) and lived in even more conservative areas ( treasure valley ID) and now live outside of Eugene - it's kinda purple. I've met plenty of more conservative to solidly conservative folks in Eugene and it's surrounding areas.
At 13 years old I took a train ride with my Mom from Central Coast California to Portland Oregon. I was awe struck by the nature and scenery. It was like I discovered a new Biome. Honestly did not expect that beauty, highly recommend!!
I lived in San Francisco for 11years and was amazed at how a few miles north of the big city there's just a few one-horse towns and hundreds of miles of unspoiled forests, mountains and empty beaches.
Drove up to Portland from LA about 5 years ago. When I passed Mt Shasta I shed a tear. It was one of the most beautiful things I’ve seen.
I grew up in Chico and now live in Portland. I get to pass Mt Shasta frequently, and it takes my breath away every time. I've never seen a mountain more beautiful, stark, and ethereal. Nothing prepares you if you've never seen it before.
I went there and my dog went crazy so i left. I hear there are bases there.
Have you seen Rainier? The climb over Buckley’s main hill is really such a view
It’s a small, boring area but the start of the drive out to the mountain is stunning
@@latenightviews I grew up in Yreka with a view of Mt. Shasta from my front yard. My parents are still in the same home. 45 years later, I still take my family there often to visit the folks. In fact, I was there last week, driving south back to the airport. I'm still blown away by the beauty of Mt. Shasta and believe that sentiment will never change.
@@anjr6282 so brave of you to come out! Congratulations!
I grew up right in the middle of this place on the coast. I’ve been all over the world multiple times and this place is still the most beautiful place I’ve ever been.
Grew up in Ft. Bragg, CA and you're absolutely right. Nothing compares. We got spoiled big time! 😂
@@invictaland1983 I grew up mostly in willits, but still work out of Noyo harbor, it's gotten more expensive to live there without multi generational wealth, such as a payed off home or land, but it is still really beautiful.
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I live in Coos Bay, this coastal town feels like were on an island, even leaving town either direction you have to cross a bridge and then it is just forests for miles until the next small town. The whole Jefferson state area feels like it exists separate from the rest of the world. You can feel the shift in the air as you start leaving the trees and mountains behind.
It’s very odd, the culture there is very similar to the Deep South, lots of southern food, political views and even some accents. Visiting there really feels like going to an alternate universe.
Oh you’re lucky. I love Coos Bay Area, especially South if there! There is something’s special about the coast there. Mmm, Sunset Bay, the seals, and the lighthouse and then happening on Shore acres garden/park and the greenest hiking anywhere. It’s a place not of this world.
Coos Bay is pretty!!! I visited and still dreaming of going back.
@@TheBaCoNzzzzThe deep south!?
I've lived in Gold Beach for over 20 yrs, and the fried chicken is terrible!
@@bobmanners8624 I wasn't even aware we had any fried chicken outside of the Mckay's and Ray's delis
You seemed to have forgotten that huge swaths of Shasta and Trinity counties are comprised of federal forests. 2,210,000 acres is Shasta-Trinity forest. Folks don’t reside in these forests.
And thank goodness for that.
@@RogerProctor-np3wb not surprised if there are dwellers hiding
He specifically mentioned Trinity, Six River, Tahoe "and many more."
I was born and raised in Eureka, CA. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Humboldt Bay area as it's the only "city" we have on the coast but around here we refer to the parks as the Redwood Curtain. Feels like we are almost a decade behind the times with how slow things get up here. Loved the video though as most people assume Sacramento when you tell them northern California lol
I think you have a skewed view on "city". It's a town.
Eureka is a grey, melancholy town
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A large town
@@originalname9999by coast standards it’s positively bustling, there’s not much bigger on Nor Cal / Oregon / Washington coastline. Only Coos Bay and Aberdeen are bigger.
I'm in Redding
I used to live in this region. I lived in a small town called Arcata in California. Absolutely loved it. Weather was amazing, people were nice, and I had access to everything I needed. I miss living there, but the prices are too high for me to live there anymore. Someday, I'll return.
I met a beautiful girl from arcata, I’m from Hawaii :)
Arcata is charming and beautiful
I lived in Eureka for over 5 years. The lack of sun got to me eventually
Most would think redding when i asked.
Loved living in and going to school in Arcata :)
I live in this area. If everyone would enlarge the map they would see the Great Pacific Northwest forests. Besides there isnt any industry in this area besides logging. It’s what has protected the Pacific Northwest from huge populations. Thankfully.
It might have more to do with what goes on in those forests
@@aWomanFreedwhat do you mean?
@@yes_.01 the rituals, of course
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@@yes_.01 shhhh, dont give us away! lol
The Lost Coast is one of my favorite places in California, if not the planet. Highly recommend people visit the area. It has otherworldly vibes.
As someone who live in the area it is one of the most beautiful part of the United States and has some of the nicest people and sense of community anywhere around. If your even in California come visit Coloma (where gold was first discovered in California) and see the American river
That part of California is really nice. The Weaverville historical district is nice too, but I think the American and Feather River sites are better developed.
I like eureka, Ca
The area is nice but the people can be a mixed bag. I’m from placer county and the culture is much different then the rest of California
I bicycled through this area as part of a longer trip and having grown up around the crowded beaches of Southern California I was shocked to see hundreds of miles of essentially untouched beaches and coastline. It is truly one of the most beautiful places in the country.
Well keep it to yourself.
@@mickdodge9778too late. Us Democrats love it!
But don't try to go swimming in it
@@kbanghart Don't believe that, bad things happen to democrats who live here, I mean there
@@kbanghartIt's "We Democrats" and stop invading America!
I'm a biker and I've ridden through that region multiple times. The land between Redding, CA and Salem, Oregon is gorgeous. I really enjoyed the ride from Redding to Reno. It reminded me of Colorado and Wyoming
Exactly what, in Salem, Oregon, is gorgeous ?
@@Juno_Beachthe view of the trees and mountains
@@Juno_Beach I was born and raised in Salem. When you get into the countryside it's beautiful. Downtown not so much
Exactly what is a biker
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Salem Trees 🌴 & Mountain @@frozen2golden
How wonderful....I lived in Cave Junction, Or. for two years, then in Crescent City, .ca. and opened a small business in the 90s😊...then lived in Brookings, Or. And worked with the Myrtlewood stores there. These years were some of the best of my whole life...Rt. 199 through the redwoods was my ride every day💖. I was feeling blessed every day of my years in this gorgeous place. Most people never heard of some of the tiny beautiful towns along the way...like Gasquet, .Ca. I never wanted to move.
I have lived in Arizona, California twice, Oregon twice and Washington state. I have driven through beautiful places across the USA. I have driven Interstate 5 from Mexico to Seattle. I have driven 1-5 from LA to Portland and back many times. I have driven coast highway 1 From Washington to San Diego. There’s just something about the drive from Reading to everywhere North of there that is just different than anywhere I’ve ever driven. It’s beyond beautiful but also mysterious, it’s hard to explain. Before I had my own RV I rented one and had the best vacation of my life. We Drove North on I-5 making some detours camping in the redwoods, crater lake, up North camping in the Columbia river gorge, etc. On the return trip we took the coast highway 1 South from Astoria Oregon to Santa Barbara. This is Probably the most beautiful drive on earth. Our vacation was 2 weeks and felt very rushed. 2 months would have been much better. There’s so much beauty and nature to see and explore. If you’ve never hiked through a Forrest of giant redwoods, you haven’t lived. The first time i experienced it as a child I couldn’t even say WTF, I was speechless. If your adventurous and love nature and this isn’t at the top of your bucket list for trips, you might reconsider. Damn, it’s back on top of mine again. Save travels.
Man you named off a lot of places I know haha. I grew up in northern California, lived in Santa Barbara, then Prescott, AZ, and have since lived in a few places around Phoenix. We are getting the Black Bear Diners around Arizona now, but having grown up going to the originals a lot, it bums me out that they don't provide the same feel here as they do up there where they're sort of 'good 'ol boy' types of diners in small towns. The decor and newspaper menus don't really reach people here like they do up thwre
dear livelikemateo6951: Reading ?? Are you talking about Redding, just south of Shasta Lake / Shasta Mountain.......?
You can't comprehend the costal redwood forest even when you are in it.
I live in Klamath Falls, surprised you didn't mention this area. Volcanos, Volcanos, Volcanos have changed this topography and made it hostile to farming. A conservative area of the west, this area truly has its own identity.
I used to live in K falls
K Falls! Love it here! :)
hour south in mcRthur, ca. it's like living in yellowstone with less people
@@jj3johnsonid I rode through a couple weeks ago.. the line into Burney Falls Park was insane!!
Mt shasta area here..
love your area!! 💯👍🏽
I loved there briefly. The lack of air not smelling like a campfire was horrendous
As someone who just went to a family members wedding in Guerneville, CA, it is one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever seen, and I’ve lived on multiple continents.
Guerneville
I have loved guerenville for many years. We have a secret place we stay (not telling) when passing through. Always wish...
@@ephemerabluetit335Awwww,cm on…just a hint? Is it a camp ground or a Airbnb? Thank you.
I had acreage above Guerneville with awesome views for 6 yrs and it was quiet but Sonoma Co is not so great a place to live now with Sustainable Dev Agenda 2030 policies in the rampage! But so I know the beauty you speak of but now live in S. Oregon, Rogue River Valley and it’s way less congested with ppl, further from metropolis’s and SF Bay Area. Better and still gorgeous!
One of my relatives lived there in the early 1980's.
I'm from that area (southern Oregon), I haven't watched the video yet, but it's such an inversion to what I know now that I've escaped and live in a larger city on the coast. Lots of drugs, racism, poverty, etc. It's a genuinely cursed place when it comes to people, but it's also one of the most naturally beautiful places in the world, in my opinion.
I live in this region (Del Norte) and the infrastructure struggles are real, the we have three ways out of town, and one is always under construction because it is slowly sliding into the ocean. Also, a single redwood tree falling on the highway does an incredible amount of damage.
But you can't neglect that even where infrastructure exists, a lack of economic opportunity means there's little other than natural beauty to attract people to much of this region, particularly the various smaller towns along the coast and highways. This lack of economic opportunity coincides with a lack of healthcare, poor education, little in the way of public or private services, and an environment that is thoroughly inhospitable to the unsheltered.... As beautiful as it is It's not a great place to be starting out life unless you are fairly well off already.
I love the coast along Crescent City and Brookings. There was a great little restaurant in Crescent city owned by a Portuguese gentlemen who made one of the best Cioppino's I've had. Love that town!!!!! Funny, I was the guy that bought the right-of-way to widen a County road in town.
Is the Smith Complex Fire still going?
@@paintingmama7761 it's mostly contained now. We got a heavy rain about a week ago that helped a lot, but traffic is still limited going over the border.
Ive been here my whole life.67 years. Its been a great life. Always had a good job and the ability to fulfill my dreans, and i wasnt born rich.
@@gasquetmike8320I never said it was impossible to enjoy living in this area, nor that you have to be rich to do so.... Being fairly well off doesn't mean you are rich, it means you are relatively stable and capable of providing for yourself. There's a difference between moving here with a decent job and house lined up versus moving here with a hope and a dream but no job, skills, house, or family.
I'm not even middle class, but I still enjoy living here because it's a beautiful area with easy access to camping, fishing, kayaking, and basically anything you could dream of as an outdoors lover.... I live close enough to all these activities that I can spend the day at the river, catch sunset at the beach, have a bonfire and then sleep in my own bed for the cost of a gallon or two of gas. If that's your dream, them you certainly don't need to be rich to generally enjoy living here.
That doesn't change that there are many cities with more job opportunities than crescent city has people, healthcare often requires travel (if you can even afford to access it), nor that many of us in del norte struggle to make ends meet with the available opportunities.
I lived in crescent city California and Brookings Oregon . Both places are probably the most beautiful places in America . Crystal clear rivers and beautiful hiking trails . You won’t find anything more beautiful than the ocean views. I do miss it but after being diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis (hereditary) I had to travels 8+ hours to San Francisco every other month to get procedures done because health care in that part of the state is almost non existent. Now the bad meth is rampant and homelessness is everywhere it’s crazy to see because for small towns there are ALOT of them .
Pretty hard to beat the fireworks. Unless it's foggy
Damn! The same is here where I wound up moving to, meaning meth hears all over the place. It's a nationwide problem, not just a rural America problem. Same crap was killing San Diego, CA as well. I was born and raised in southern CA, both in cities and in rural areas. CA and OR were just too expensive to move to. I wanted back into forest in the worst of ways. I wound up in S.E. Kentucky in the Appalachian Mountains. The fact is I miss western evergreen forests BIG time, and I sorely miss clean, clear streams, creeks, rivers and lakes. Everything here is full of suspended silts that make the water ugly.
Health care where I am is shaky at best and deadly at it's worst. To get really decent care you have to drive 1 1/2 hours to Lexington!
@@jazzcatt I grew up in a small town in pa on the Appalachian Trail. I miss it there no where near as many tornados health care was better but even there the problem they have there is with heroin . Within 4 months of being in California 6 people that I went to high school with had overdosed and died . I do really miss Oregon and that part of California it’s never really hot and the views and the rivers are crystal clear but everything else kinda sucks anymore . It’s turning into no place is really any better as far as drugs go .
I live a little north of those in Gold Beach, OR though I'm not home much being a trucker. But last time I was home a few weeks ago I noticed way less homeless in Gold Beach. Not sure whatever their doing, but it seems to be helping. Good places to retire, if you have a good retirement fund, otherwise jobs are pretty limited out there.
Eventually I've been looking into moving over to Klamath Falls. I only lived in Gold Beach to help out with my grandma, but she passed back in March. Gonna stick around with my mom and stepdad, help get the house fixed up good. Then migrate over to an area I prefer. Especially since the company I drove for is based out of Central Point. From my company yard to Gold Beach it's about a 3 hour drive when I take home time, only about a 70-80 minute drive to Klamath Falls.
I prefer the mountains over the coast personally. Klamath Falls gets a lot more sunshine than the coast, plus I enjoy a bit of snow in the winter having grown up in Iowa and Utah. I've heard they also have a pretty good farmers market over there too. Tons of lakes in all directions, a big public park, lot's of hiking/hunting/fishing opportunities. Only other boon would be if the whole greater Idaho thing happens, kinda of a toss up. If it did happen I wouldn't be complaining, the policies out of Portland and Salem only seem to be making homelessness worse. I've noticed the situation in Medford is getting worse, more and more tent communities popping up all over the place, and more panhandlers standing on street corners. It's getting pretty bad in areas along the I-5 Corridor..
@@Demonoid1990 I like Gold beach it’s a cool town . I rode with the vagos a lot and we would go through there pretty often. I like the coast because of the views I could see the mountains in my back yard and ocean in the front . I grew up in Pennsylvania and lived there for 35 years before moving out to that part of Northern California southern Oregon so I liked not having the snow and it isn’t that cold in the winter. Plus I was up high enough of a tsunami hit . I lived in brookings right across from the booming site . If health care was a lot better when I retired I’d go back .
Accurate except for Eugene is NOT part of the State of Jefferson, nor is it separated from Salem or Portland as the Willamette Valley is where everyone does live. It starts in Douglas County 20 miles south and the change is very obvious if you drive through it. Have lived here my entire life.
Moved my family out to that area 6 years ago we tried Medford, Redding and Burny, it has been tougher than we expected. Headed back to our family in Ohio we tried the PNW. It will always hold a special place in my heart. Great video!
Was it the high cost of living and low pay?
I live in the eclectic city of Ashland, Oregon. It is full of theater actors, college students, artisans, transients, buskers, rich people, and Joe Six-Packs. It has culture and a sense of community. If you travel twenty miles in any direction, it changes from hipsters to good ol' boys.
Corporations are buying up land, apartments, and houses. They can't raise the rent to the amount they want legally so they are evicting people left and right. Pretty soon this town will be nothing but rich people.
It's a great place. Loved the natural springs there.
@@Himesua Other than the hot, smoky summers, I have no complaints.
I love Ashland. That's where I buy my weed.
@@angel1431 I am 100% for weed being legal, but I rarely partake. That said, if and when I want some, it seems like there is a pot shop every 500 feet.
I had a friend move to eastern Oregon to work for the forest service. I got to visit him in the high desert / Oregon outback and to this day cannot get over how untouched, sparse and beautiful that part of Oregon is.
Well put, totally wild. Remote and beautiful. Great place for the witness protection program also lol
To the northeast are high steep canyons,great coastline to west. And Mt hood and so much beauty in between.😊
As an eastern Oregon native I speak for all of us when I say we would appreciate it if you would please stop telling people about it.
Come to Joseph Oregon. The lake is pristine and never very crowded. I'm sure that's why Jack Black came here last year.
Had a blast fishing and chatting with the locals. Very sweet guy I'm sure he'll be back. It's so low key especially for someone that famous. I hope Pearl was on her best behavior. 🙏 She's a local gal born and raised here and works at the little store. Boy she can be sooooo cranky with our visitors and locals alike. Don't take it personally if she gets cranky. 😅🎉
@@clamathkowboyz9608Don't worry kowboyz. Seven months of deep snow and 13 degrees keeps most from moving here, for very long anyway 😂
I just spent the weekend on the Lost Coast and was taken back how such a beautiful place could be so sparsely populated. Thank for this video and answering a lingering question I had as to why that was.
Been out there a few times, just got to keep clear of the growers is all.
The sad part is, it will remain beautiful precisely because it's not ideal for giant population centers. Population brings land development, which tends to disrupt and scar the landscape.
@@richard3793 BS.
@@johnbrattan9341 : He does have a point to a certain degree. There is legal growers (white). Illegal growers (black). And mixed.(Grey). The legal growers are having a hard time making money. The black market is where the money is at. That's the ones I assume he refers to.
@@wopalongcassidy Hilarious! Why assume. Instead of giving your ASSUMPTIONS to me....
Ask "him," who "does have a point to a certain degree."
Who are you people?
Thanks! 🙌
Redding, Ca resident here! When folks refer to SF as "Northern California" it does largely feel like the actual North of Ca is just totally forgotten about and overlooked, hence the prominence of State of Jefferson ideals that run rampant up here. The representation really isn't there, I'll admit. I'm not at all a part of the State of Jefferson pipedream, but I do live in the most strongly conservative county in California (Shasta County) and it can be really tough. And that's why SF really is more like Central California. I think Ca as a whole can be more accurately described by North-Central-South rather than simply North and South. Because believe me, the politics from here in true Northern Ca to SF just 3 hours South of us is STARK.
Interesting that people refer to it as the "empty West" because it's definitely not actually "empty". There are hundreds of thousands of folks living here from county to county, and NorCal is home to rich Native populations here as well! Hupa, Wintu and Yurok most notably.
Ah yes ...redding....meth capital of shitville triangle trash.
Redding gang rise up. If only a good chunk of the population wasn't methheads
Being a Central Coaster, I'd say the mix is a lot more diverse here. It breaks down city to city. SLO, Los Osos and Morro Bay is quite left, but Atascadero and northward is very right leaning.
@@JC-gd3ccRedding now is a nightmare...
San Fransisco and Redding CA have nothing in common. SF is far more central CA then northern CA. Redding is the Saudi Arabia of water yet the Governor wants to cut our water use by 27% and the Bay Area by 3%. SF knows nothing about timber management and therefore create Billions of dollars of timber to burn each year along with good peoples homes. It is far past time the Red counties in CA and Blue counties hold a vote. Red or Blue and split accordingly. We are far to divided to coexist.
If it weren’t for that pesky but seemingly unavoidable Cascadia Subduction, what a perfect place to establish a post-apocalyptic settlement. I live in Colorado and thought we had the most beautiful vistas in America but, holy crap, this section of the US is epic!
I flew to Denver to buy a vehicle and drove it all the way back to the west coast. Driving west bound looked fucking amazing to say the least. So much green/foliage/vegetation/mountains. Utah was cool too, stayed at circlesville pit stop. Once I got to NV/CA looked like ass and so were the drivers.
Surely it is also a good place to establish… a normal house? Why post apocalypse lmao
The area most likely would be hit with bombs because of military installations in the area
A Cascadia subduction earthquake is due likely to happen within a fifty-year time frame from now, according to some geologists. Due to its nature, it is believed to be in excess of a 9.0+ magnitude, which would leave the region uninhabitable for many weeks, if not months. A lot of bridges transverse the area and would be brought down by landslides and unstable soil base. Fires, gas leaks, and power outages will be a thing. Food and commodities would become scarce in short order because of no roads, unless supplies can be delivered by air, pending operable communications on the ground.
The coastal communities can't build inland because of the forested mountainous terrain that borders the towns. As a result, the tsunami that will be generated will submerge what the quake hasn't destroyed, hence, isolating those places.. Deaths would be inevitable because tsunami-strenghth shelters are not adequate in most coastal communities and less than ten minutes is the estimated time frame of a Cascadia subduction-generated tsunami strike.
A devastated infrastructure would hinder an already slow rescue response across the region.
One of my favorites part of the country, particularly Redwood National and State Parks and Samuel Boardman State Scenic Corridor. I’d like to explore more parts - Crater Lake, Lassen, etc.
I live in Boonville, Northern California, and growing up here was the best. Things have changed for the worst in the past 20 years because big money vineyards have completely decimated the land and don't give anything back ito the community. Millions of dollars are made off the land and the people, yet we have little to no housing, no community center, a run down school, and its sports program that needs money for uniforms or new scoreboards. What a shame to watch paradise lost.
That sucks. Has the town tried to lobby the vineyards to help with funding for the community?
I went to boarding school in Boonville. I haven’t been back there in years. Anderson Valley was gorgeous back then, it was a great place to go to school.
I’ve heard it’s not the same, especially not on the school property. And I guess Hendy Woods has dried up. What a shame! We had so many excellent trips to go swimming there.
I knew there were vineyards there, we were surrounded by 🍎 APPLES!
Wow I’m sorry to hear that. You speak Boont? I hope the Horn Of Zeese and at least Jack’s Ace Hardware is still there!
✨🥰✨. Stay blessed.
@WhiteWolfBlackStar , Yeah I harp a slib of boont. 5th generation to live here. Unfortunately, the Horn of Zeese is a wine bar. Jack's Valley Stlore is there, but it's a different owner.
@lesaamoore , In the beginning I believe some folks did approach them, to no avail. When owners don't live here, it proves to be difficult. Now, the majority of people living here are afraid to approach the owners in fear of loosing their job, perhaps, or maybe they don't care.
@@JeffreyKB So frustrating for those who do care I’m sure. Sounds like your congressman and town council need to get in gear. We have a strong school and parks system in my city. Residents tend to approve taxation bills that target wealthy landowners and corps. Feels like we pass school bills every few years. Being a tourist destination, they also have particular laws for higher min wages for hotel workers. Boonville gov and your councilman should be receiving persistent calls to find solutions.
I was born in Grants Pass in 1959, as were my parents (1929 & 1936). My mom’s father was born there in 1901, and his mother in 1874. My great aunt’s husband owned Spalding & Son lumber company. So my roots are fairly deep. But we left when I was 7. Many enjoyable visits since then, and I still have an aunt and a couple of cousins there. It’s beautiful. My mom is buried in Granite Hill Cemetery. But with the awful heat in the summer, wildfires, the homeless issue, and no money for infrastructure, I’m glad I don’t live there now.
The human elements ie crime have changed in the area? Plenty of supernatural too?
Recently myself and a friend drove north past Mt Shasta on a clear night with a full moon lighting up the entire ice-covered surface of that giant. What a presence it had that night. I have passed by it many dozens of times in the daylight and moonless darkness, but this last time was impressive
I have lived in Mount Shasta for 40 years. The best kept secret in the real Northern CA.
FWIW, my favorite stretch of I-5 is the big valley between Weed and Yreka.
"A friend and I drove"
Basically, take out the other person and if you'd say, "I", such as "I drove," you use "I".
You wouldn't say, "Myself drove," so you shouldn't say, "Myself and a friend drove ."
You COULD say, "I drove myself," but "myself" is an understood subject of "I" and isn't required in the sentence.
It's like saying, "I drove Ed to the store."
I drove Ed to the store.
"I" is doing the driving. "Ed" is who was driven.
I drove myself to the store,
"I" is doing the driving.
"Myself" doesn't get to drive because "I" is driving.
So, "A friend and I drove to the store" or,
"I drove with a friend to the store,"
are the correct ways to convey that through both speaking and writing.
"I drove a friend to the store," is grammatically correct, but this sentence can be confusing because now "in a car" becomes the understood part of the sentence and is left out.
You didn't drive your friend, you drove (in a car with) your friend.
It's like, "I drove (myself)".
The main thing is, "Myself" doesn't get to DO anything.
OK. Everyone, feel free to hate away. Someone will read that, learn something, and start speaking and writing English more correctly. I'm happy with helping THAT person.
Oooooo!! Sounds magical! Very nice...
@@Texas240@Texas240 look up the difference between linguistic prescriptivism and descriptivism. The point of language is communicating ideas clearly. If there's no ambiguity or confusion (and I don't believe in this case there was) then it's as correct as it needs to be. If everyone started saying it the "wrong" way and everyone understood what it meant then it would just become the new "proper" way to say it. Every language has weird quirks in it that at one point were considered incorrect but no longer are. Every language changes.
It's quite possible that in the region where the original commenter is from, most people say it the way they did. There's nothing wrong about it, it's just different. Things being technically incorrect doesn't matter in communication; the only practical concern is if one has to talk to someone who will tell them they said it wrong, despite understanding perfectly well what they meant, and make a big deal out of it.
It's like how everyone knows what "can I use the bathroom" means, and the only time most people would say "may I use the bathroom" is if they're asking a teacher who is going to make a big deal out of it and make them "correct" their "mistake" lol
I was there recently, from PA. Flew to SF, drove to Oakland Hills area, visited friends, then drove to Multnomah Falls, stopping many times along the way through the Empty West. Loved it. Majestic.
bwilderd, awesome sights. I hope you drove up the Oregon coast and not I-5. The coast is breathtaking. I want to take a motorcycle southbound down the coast. That way I can pull over and take pics all the way down Oregon.This may be the most beautiful coastline in the world? Maybe not but it is beautiful and breathtaking. Watch out for Oregon's "sneak waves" named by locals.
@@StillAProudAmerican-ll2yc I did drive the coast, no I-5 at all. It is truly awe-inspiring.
I'm at Lake Erie wine region. My dad's family all lives out on CA coast. Mom was preg w me. My G'ma was a bitch we all hated. Mom, dad moved back here before I was born. I've been from LA to Portland, loved the visits. I robbed enough $$$ to move out there. My dad busted me! I love the coast. I broke into Penn State during Easter break. I stole all the college's rings! All gold rings. They were beautiful. He made me send them back. They had no clues. Bummer. Went out for Xmas, in LA. G'dammit. We get snow bad. Out there was like spring in winter. Met a gorgeous girl. Wanted her so bad.
I've lived in the western US for the majority of my life, but it took me until this summer to do a big old northern CA roadtrip. I've never heard of it referred to as the "Empty West" before (have you been to NV or WY or MT? Probably emptier) - but I definitely was delighting in how few ppl are up there and that real old Main Streets still exist, etc. Cheers to being on the road! 🥂
Born and raised in Baltimore. Lived in Humboldt/ Trinity in the lower section of six river national forest in 2017. One of the most beautiful places I have even been. Will never forget my time living there. He's not kidding about the tallest and oldest trees in the world. I saw douglas fir and cedars the size of the redwoods up in the mountains, some of which had been burned 50 percent of its trunk but the tops were still alive and thriving. The madrone trees were also a sight ot behold. I had never seen the night sky more clear than when I lived out there, you could see the whole milky way. Vastly different than growing up living in the east coast in big cities. So many cool things i saw out there including Mt Shasta from about 200 miles away on a montain top close the where i was living. could also see Mt.Lassen and the Pacific Ocean all from the same spot. I got lost hiking the redwood national forest near Orick, completely alone one day hiked easily 10 miles in around noon time and didn't make it back to my car untill 2 hours after sunset, was still on a trail and was a full moon,but man it was dark,and i was scared shitless. lol Thought "bigfoot" was going to get my ass lol....after living out there, you can see why people would belive creatures like that exist.
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I not only like your videos with great info but how you gently plug the ads, there is an art to it.
Some content providers will slam the ads like a cold doctor's office with a robot not even trying to blend it in. Good job on all you do.
I arrived at this video after watching a few about the Cascadia Fault Line just off the Pacific Northwest Coast. I am now thinking it is probably a good thing that this area is so unpopulated. Also, as a foreigner who enjoys visiting areas of wilderness that are untouched by the human hand, I find it fascinating that, despite being one of the most technologically advanced continents on Earth, North America still has some of the most beautiful areas of outstanding natural beauty on the planet.
We had an earthquake last December and Humbolt County lost power for seal hours and many homes near the epicenter- Mendocino triple junction were damaged beyond repair. Then there is the ongoing crumbling coastline. They still haven't finished Last Chace Grade from two winters ago.
@mozellewilliams6382 indeed. I live in CC, born and raised, and last chance grade is a Neverending saga I swear. Driven thru it countless times too and from Klamath or humboldt
4000 foot mountains are great Tsunami barriers. It is Seattle, Portland, San Fransisco and LA that are in real danger.
@@matthewbeasley7765 True, but the intensity of the earthquake will still create a lot of destruction
Yes, it is A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE TO LIVE. Do not move here.
It's actually pretty sad how many people don't know it snows in CA in the Northern and North East parts of CA. The bay area really isn't all that North. More in the middle.
Most people don’t know it snows sometimes in Hawaii and you can even snow ski there!
@@blueeyedlady8973 Seems pretty cool to me.
Snowed in the bay area last year!
Bay Area is Northern CA.
It even snows in parts of SoCal, like in the lower end of the Sierra Nevada mountains.
My family has vacationed to this exact place in the US every year for the last half decade, and plan to continue to do so for the foreseeable future. The lack of people in this area is one of the big draws, but the unique geography smooshes all our favorites together. We absolutely love it there!
Half decade? Ummm, you mean 5 years? Who the fuck says that?
i visited the area a couple months ago and honestly its one of the only places i could travel to repeatedly and not get sick of it. pretty and peaceful, nothing like its vibes
Do you smoosh your mother on the snizz?
Us too! Not so since 2020 but it’s the greatest. Mount Shasta area has to be my favorite spot
It is a very beautiful area of the Pacific Northwest.
I lived in the Medford/Grants Pass area for many years. As you mentioned, the geography is challenging if you hope for population growth. The coastal areas of N. Cal and S. Oregon are very difficult to get to. There is no easy, high speed highway access. It's all curvy mountain roads that can be somewhat treacherous to travel. To get to Southern Oregon, you have to traverse Siskiyou Summit from the South or a series of smaller passes to the North. Again, it can be difficult mountain driving in either direction so it's not easy access by any means and it's a great place to be land locked. In addition to the travel logistics, the weather is a huge factor for why there hasn't been more growth. Southern Oregon tends to be really hot in the summer and cold and dry in the winter so if you're coming from California (as we did), those conditions can be pretty harsh and not near as comfortable as the Willamette Valley or the Puget Sound areas further up the coast. And the challenge all rural areas face is that they are governed by politicians who cater to the city populations and largely ignore the unique needs of rural communities. And a lot of people relocate away from the city to get away from some of the insane policies that are making those places difficult to live in but then find themselves still be subject to policies that are of no benefit to them. I hope the State of Jefferson gets their way. There's also a movement for parts of Eastern Oregon to be annexed into Idaho. All this fantasy camps face an uphill climb and few people want to see that much change happen in their lifetimes so it's an ongoing battle. Perhaps not hopeless but highly unlikely unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view.) Since 2020, with everyone going remote, there's been a massive population surge in the rural areas. For the people who moved there to escape city madness, this has been an unpleasant development. And with millions of people pouring into our Southern Border, the trends are likely to continue. It's sad to see recreational areas getting overcrowded but it is what it is. Fascinating history piece, thanks for sharing.
I consider myself fortunate to have grown up in Ashland Oregon. In the summer I would take a canoe out on Emigrant Lake to go fishing which was basically a 5 minute drive across the highway. In the winter I would drive up to Mt Ashland to go snowboarding which took about 35 minutes. It really is a beautiful and special place.
I grew up in Ashland too :) thought it was boring as a little kid but I’m very grateful for it now
@@zephyr2905 I know you did Zeph lol. How you been?
Very beautiful and very expensive!I would love to move there,but for the prices!
I'm in Ashland right now
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Fun fact: the entire coast of Oregon is a state park. Also, some of the best fish n chips come from the area. Small towns + local breweries make for a fun but chilled experience.
Oregon has the most accessible coastline to the public in the United States because of it, makes me proud of our state!
When I was a kid I had a book "The Most Scenic Roads in America", and the pages on that particular region were the most spectacular ones.
A good portion of this land has been devastated by wildfires in the last 10 years.
maui unique burn
Two winters ago I drove through there on I-5 and also Hwy 101. There was extreme winter weather in the Siskiyou mountains, especially snow. There were vehicles in the ditch all over the place. So then we went over to the coast highway thinking it would be easier to drive because rain, not snow. But there were landslides blocking the highway for 100-mile segments. There was flooding also sometimes covering the highway. The whole time it was gorgeous, just difficult to travel. The people are great!
You must have your years mixed up, or your geography. There have been no 100 mile landslides/traffic jams on 101 in the 7 years I have been here. Wildfire smoke, yes, but no flooding or landslides (except for one tiny bridge that collapsed and required the long route for nearly a month.)
@@grannypantsification That actually happened further south on 101 near San Luis Obispo, so not actually in that part of the coast. We were driving from Seattle to San Diego and some things got mixed u in my mind. It wasn't a 100mile landslide, but a 100mi section of highway you couldn't get through, forcing very long detours.
Roads Access ,jobs !! Need more forward thinking people's toos change graffics !! As roads are the main factors & mountain s !!
@@josephliddle309 I see. That makes much more sense 😊 I’ve always thought it is amazing the human ingenuity that built a highway on the edge of a cliff with the ocean just feet away. On the southern Oregon coast it seems miraculous that the whole thing doesn’t just slide into the water😜 …and yet it is remarkably persistent.👍🏻💕
Its called the Last Chance grade, cliff hugging part of the 101 that keeps washing out. Its actually just a short distance before Crescent city but can cut off transportation for a good while. Cal trans is pretty good at setting up one way access but it still delays traffic and shipping trucks a lot.@@grannypantsification
This is funny to me, because I work for the Forest Service, and thanks to all those National Forests you mentioned, I swear 1 out of every 5 people I know professionally live in that "empty" chunk of the west. 😂 I never considered how empty it is of people otherwise.
LOL ... come here to where I live, in crowded, urban New York City !!! Then you will see how empty it is in your area!!
@cathynewyork7918 funnily enough, my very best friend lives in Queens. We are very different lol
@@savannah115 LOL. I live in Queens, NY also! [which is part of New York City.] It's okay to be different from your best friend. Maybe you can each visit each other and share a bit in each other's lives, while still going home to what you like best. My best friend lives on horse property in New Mexico -- way different than here in New York City. You and I have the same situation.😀
why does it feel like you two ARE the best friends and you just haven't realized it yet?
@@loftyjones675 if they aren't yet they should definitely become friendsss!!!
FUN FACTS ABOUT THE EMPTY WEST COAST:
1. Connecticut had once laid its claim to the California half north of the 41st parallel.
2. Massachusetts had once laid its claim to the Oregon half south of the 44th parallel.
The 1662 Connecticut Charter, anyone?
This how people feel today. Except instead of Connecticut or Massachusetts, it's Sacramento and Portland. Lol
@@danielevans3932 BIngo.
revinhatol. Hilarious. The word 'California' wasn't used then.
Unless the politicians were versed in 16th century Spanish novels.
Get a grip.
@@johnbrattan9341 whoa there tough stuff, pretty sure it's being used as shorthand.
A common problem in this country is perception. Many perceive ‘wealth’ as money, when I walked under and among the Redwoods as a young woman I believed myself to be an extremely wealthy and loved human being.
@@MiMiiViVi I grew up in Eureka, Humboldt County. In that area there are a lot of State and National Parks. You don’t want to get caught cutting or even picking up firewood or deadwood it’s against the law. The wine country is much farther south. Illegal growers are the biggest problem.
If ur born in america ur already the 1% of the world population.
LOL Are you Mr. Vandresen's wife?
And what did you do when you got hungry? Here on the Humboldt coast wealth is defined as being able to afford a house.
Have you ever traveled? This is not a uniquely American virtue. Wealth is valued on every continent on this planet. Barring some small indigenous tribes scattered thinly throughout the world, money is valued and needed everywhere.
As a resident of Redding CA at the north end of the Sacramento River Valley, I can tell you why people don't live here. It's because from mid-May through September, it's hot as hell. The job market is terrible from Sacramento on up, the high drug usage in the area and the homeless/transient population has tripled in the last decade. Plus, you have multiple state prisons within a couple of hours' drive. Once my kids graduate, I'm gone with the wind.
I've been to Redding and it wasn't a pleasant place
I visited Oregon for the first time last year and found it one of the most beautiful places I’ve been in the US. And it has the nicest people as well.
Don't come back! We don't want your kind.
You must be white. State is full of lame closet bigots who love to tell everyone they have a black friend or family member.
As long as you don't tell him your Progressive if you are
I've lived here for 25 years and I find the entire state to be unlivable.
Oregon sucks.
I always loved my geography classes and one of my classmates got a PHD in geography. wish it was more popular with students now.
Gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill in Coloma on January 24th 1848, but the Rush did not start until 1849. They are termed "49ers." As someone who grew up in Sacramento, it is hard to believe that anyone talking about West Coast history could get this one wrong.
And Sacramento is not on the coast, but in the middle of the Central Valley.
And the Transcontinental Railroad does not terminate in San Francisco.
@@ArtamStudioTerminated, as did the Pony Express, in Sacramento.
Sac used to be a nice town, but it's crappy now. So much anger. Drivers are the worst in the country, even worse than Massachusetts.
I adore Coloma and the whole Sutter's Mill historic area that sits there. I would often camp next door, on the American River, and just tool around experiencing the history of it all. Lovely area.
I used to live in the Seattle area and took a lot of roadtrips out to Arizona, Utah, Nevada, etc. So I went through the "Empty West" many times. I hope it stays relatively unpopulated as it's gorgeous, whether you're on the east or west side of the Cascades. A person could spend years exploring that region and seeing so many amazing things nature.
The USA is headed for One Billion people. Dems love open borders.
Bye-bye open spaces.
Living in this area it really feels like its own state a lot. Not just geographically but also culturally.
What is the culture there like?
Like non-existent.@@TravisMay108
@@TravisMay108 Medford has shirtless hillbillies wandering around downtown in the middle of the day. It's not a place worth visiting.
Well said! I've been there for years.. I get so much flack for being from California when visiting other states.. I'm like, yea, CA suck, don't go there with that attitude, haha. Very special place with unique and resilient people. Definitely not for everyone. I ont think most would get along in that area or would be quickly shewed away.
We’re looking to retire in this area….Redding on north to the Rogue River Valley. Sacramento has become too crowded with transplants from SoCal and the Bay Area.
As somebody who’s lived in Eureka CA their whole life, it’s so bizarre hearing about people talk about about visiting NorCal because when you live with the landscape your whole life it’s not really something you think twice about. The redwoods are just how trees are, just like the beaches are just how beaches are from my point of view.
That’s funny, I’m from St. Louis and everyone is aware of how ugly this place is.
Yeah, when you're from somewhere else and a "big tree" is something that you and one other person can hold hands and hug... then you stand next to an old growth redwood. Or having only seen the Gulf of Mexico and thinking you know what big waves are, then see a big winter storm swell on the North Coast. 🤷♂️... at least, that's how it is for me, even though I've been here for almost 22 years.
The ocean in eureka is so cold and angry. You should travel more. Baja CA has some calm warm waters during late summer and Palo Verdes trees are like ferns compared to a redwood. Humboldt has so much huge wild nature. Sad you take it for granted. I lived in Fortuna and eureka for about 15 years on and off and the massivenss of the redwoods never failed to impress me. Hope you get out a bit and find a new sense of appreciation for what you live with. It's really impressive
When I was a kid, my dad was an appliance tech for sears that was in the eureka mall. We moved outta CA in 98. I don’t think that sears is there anymore. We lived in Trinidad.
Seems that you dont travel to see different landscapes
The main reasons I have seen living in the empty coast is, lack of well paying jobs, lack of medical care ( we drive 200+ miles to go to a larger hospital or to any specialty MD) limited shopping, limited places to eat out. Many of the small towns we have lived in had limited law enforcement. Due to low population and tax income, some departments have limited night hour shifts. We love the quiet spaces, clean air and some really nice people, but as I’ve stated some big draw backs, we have had a great doctor who moved away after less than a year because the family could not stand it.
What's really crazy is that the entire east coast from Portland Maine to Miami Florida is just one giant continuous urban sprawl. Over 100 million people live along I-95.
Really a little sad. But I know what you mean.
Although living in Seattle as a youngster, we often visited our relatives north in Skagit Valley & on Lopez Island.
My dad’s high school summer job was logging!
Huge spans between the Pacific cities.
Well, not exactly. The Eastern shore of Virginia is not like that. If you drive through it, it's like driving through a country area where houses are sometimes a mile or more apart. The 70 mile stretch has less than 46k people living there. It may be because there aren't many beaches (more marshlike) and there and not many companies around. Also, a lot of it is low lying and can flood easily. Highest point is around 50ft above sea level.
Southern Oregon resident here. Despite the drug issues in some smaller communities, i absolutely love it here. The rivers and valleys never cease to amaze. Just good, quiet people eager to mind their own business.
As a resident of the "Empty West", my husband and I moved here after living 30+ years in Los Angeles. It's quiet, the forests are outstanding, the air is clean, the water is pure, the stars are beautiful and the sunsets are stunning. Can't see living anywhere else in California. Is it empty? Yes..thank goodness.
See you soon!
& No sales tax!
@@gregoryhagen8801 In Oregon, yes. But you better believe there are sales taxes in California, and that's where Bloopie said she is.
I live there, on the southern mid coast of Oregon. Many don't live here because it rains like crazy for at least 6 continuous months over winter time, often with strong winds. When it is not raining it is cloudy, damp and very chilly. Homeless people try to camp out and leave because all of their belongings get soaked.
I had a T-shirt once that said”Oregon, the Two Season State. Summer, warm rain, Winter, cold rain”. I lived in this area for many years and worked in several places within the boundaries stated, I called Redding home for several decades. Lived in Eugene, Klamath Falls and Keizer, a suburb of Salem. The 45th parallel actually ran through our house putting it half way between the equator and the North Pole. It is a beautiful.region but the big difference is the California portion has better weather whereas the Oregon part rarely saw the Sun between November and May. As for the viability of a State of Jefferson the area lacks the tax base and an economy that could be self sustaining. Just a d ream that can happen. It is the best area to get away from the crowded urban spaces and simply enjoy nature.
The rain saves you from dealing with that problem. I live in Minnesota and I. hate the cold. But it keeps the rif raff away, and Californians 😂😂😂
@@theboyisnotright6312 It's ok, we don't want your kind here in the best state in the country anyway. Enjoy frostbite!!
The rain is positive. I'll take it over the extra 5 million people if we would get if had good weather
I grew up in the Willamette Valley as a kid. In elementary school, they were teaching us about the Oregon trail, and they did a simulated Oregon trail game in small groups over a span of a couple weeks. I specifically remember as like a 4th or 5th grader being devastated because my character drowned in a river LOL
I always hated when one of my character’s family members died of dysentery 😅
I remember this! It wasn’t the video game that so many people remember. It was a live action role playing game that requires everyone to get into groups of 3 or 4 and that was your “wagon”. You then had to make decisions and vote on what to do at each turn. Most of the wagons in class didn’t make it.
@@sammierose1150that’s a fun game but not what OP is referring to.
My kids played that game over 20 years ago . great game
That made me laugh..so sorry about your character! My husband and I used to visit pioneer cemeteries. Sometimes the reason someone died was chiseled into the stone like: "Drowned to save the child" or "Snakebit"... "Fell into a well" etc. I'd always leave cemeteries grateful that I live now, so I'd have a chance to get old.
I find it surprising that, while you mentioned the Cascades, you don't really discuss the Coast Range, which is an entirely different set of mountains which boxes in the Oregon coast, which is part of why there aren't many ways to get from the coast to the valleys. It also really limits the space coastal cities can expand into, which keeps them pretty small
I was born and raised in Southern Oregon, and am of pioneer stock, my 3rd great uncle (Jeremiah Cook) guiding gold miners from Sacramento through Cook & Green Pass into the Applegate Valley. In contrast to your title, this region is becoming too populated for my tastes. It's too bad there aren't more desolate places left any more.
My family is from the Applegate via the agriculture rush post-Jacksonville boom.
@ramessesiisetepenre6017 That would be the Asian invaders, who paved the way for us mixed breed inhabitants, who paved the way for short sighted hypocrits.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
- George Santayana
I am with you on that onr Moody
Now you know how the Tribes felt...don't you?
Nobody knows who Jeremiah Cook is bra...that's super weak biz man... you can do better
the feeling of sitting in your bed in a fairly well populated town and then seeing your entire county get highlighted is an odd feeling. living in norcal has got me feeling like this place is very populated but honestly if you leave the city borders it’s just endless golden fields.
(edit for spelling): i rly gotta stop making comments right after waking up. cant spell for shit without my glasses
That's where I was born (almost 80 years ago) and grew up. It had long been an area of underemployment, unemployment, and alcohol abuse. The two mainstays of the economy were fishing and lumbering; the former was destroyed by huge trawlers, and the latter by imports of low-priced Canadian softwood lumber imports. The influx of people who sold their houses in the greater San Francisco area and bid up the price of houses beyond what the locals could afford was also a serious blow.
Geoff, fellow Jeff here! I love your videos! They are solid! It’s great motivation as I am starting my own channel! Thanks for sharing such engaging content!
I moved from LA to Florence Oregon. Literally another universe. Absolutely love it here.
Growing up on the southern Oregon coast was a unique experience. I am very glad it has remained for most intents and purposes untouched.
Intensive porpoises
How do you know growing up in Port Orford was unique?
dear binobones: do not move to anywhere in Oregon, thank you. @@binobones
I am shocked that you didn't mention Coos Bay at least. It is the only sizable town on the Oregon Coast and is also a major fishing and lumber products port. You didn't mention the fishing or logging industries that have dominated the economy in the southern Oregon and Northern California for most of their history. Also, the geologic instability of the region - earthquakes and especially volcanoes dominate the entire Cascade and Coast ranges. That volcanic activity is, in part, why the area of the Shasta region (and the Willamette and Palouse further north) are such productive agricultural areas. Quite enjoyable for a quick 12 minute vid.
Not to mention the wildfires. Driving back and forth along I-5 shows how many swaths of land are charred and recover and get charred again.
@@harley2die4 Being that I'm not a city guy at all, those things are moot. More worried about CA homeless using the 101 as a path to places like Brookings, Port Orford, Bandon, Coos Bay and so on up the coast. Portland might as well be on another planet as far as I'm concerned.
@@harley2die4 Lived in Coos Bay years ago....when you mentioned the cesspool of crime,etc...please tell me that you are referring to the larger cities in general. Would be saddened if that were the case for Coos Bay and the surrounding area. Thanks!
@@nwicconsultants6640 Coos Bay aka the Dirty Bay has a serious Meth issue like all American small towns, but is a wonderful place to visit.
@@BossaNovaLife So sorry to hear that Coos Bay has not escaped the scourge that many small towns have become victim to. Thank you for your response and by the way you and Lola did a great job on your Vintage Trailer Rally excursion! New subscriber...glad to have found you.
Lifelong Oregonian here. I’ve been so lucky to have been to most corners of my state, and I love that it’s so quiet and rural in most spots. We’ve got a good thing going on. 😎❤️
I was raised in Yreka, a small town in Siskiyou county in Northern CA. The area is absolutely beautiful, but I moved to LA to persue a career and education, as there's little opportunity there. Drugs and homeless have really affected the area, being located on I-5. Very few people in the city comprehend such areas as these, sadly.
Graduated from YHS
@@haydenhatcher9314 yessir!
@aneagleinyourmind2415 Really?!
I love that valley to the east south east of Yreka.
@@tedgermann3904 You mean Fort Jones/Etna West of Yreka? Nice area! Lots of hidden gems
Keep up the Good Work Geoff!
The world would be so much better off if people consumed content like this rather than endlessly scrolling tiktok or Twitter and never learning about the world they live in.
Thank you for educating us with your love of Geography!
People do and will consume this.
Ssssh about that other stuff. We don't care.
Amen to your statement. So very true. I pride myself on maps and atlases being my version of pornography!
I live in Southern Oregon. Grew up on the coast. People move here, then leave because of the weather-too hot inland, no sunshine-fog, rain, windy winters on the coast, too far from bigger cities, limited medical services-experts, smoke from the fires every year, etc.
I've lived in this region my entire life. I've lived from one side of it to the other, to the coast. It's a beautiful area, vast, and truly wild. A great place for rural life living in America
I live in the redwoods state and national park near crescent city, ca and it is incredibly beautiful but unfortunately almost all towns nearby are crime infested with drug addicts and lacks job opportunities. Crescent city, Klamath, orick, arcata, even brookings could be so amazing.
You are lying about the drugs and crime. I doubt you even live there if you think it is that way as anyone that has been there knows you will almost definitely not find cleaner towns anywhere else. Maybe some annoying potheads doing drugs in the backwoods where they grow their weed, but definitely not going to find drug addicts in cities or any of them doing any crime.
It's just so awful what the Democrats have done to your state.
@@KB-ke3fi You don't know wtf you're talking about. Our states have improved tremendously under the democratic administrations. The issues on the coast aren't of their doing, it mainly has to do with the collapse of the fishery and timber industries, along with tourism.
Also republicans control much of the coast. They have had decades to improve our region. They could build more housing, they could invest more money into our economy, and they could actually take a hardline against profiteering. But they're against all of that. They're cowards who always bend the knee to the rich f**ks who keep our region down.
@@KB-ke3fi Dumbest comment in history. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Who are you people?
They are amazing, everywhere has problems it's just a matter of which problems. Crime and drugs are pretty much everywhere. The alternative is gentrification, hipsters, unaffordable housing, pretentious restaurants, traffic, McMansions blighting the countryside etc etc. Be careful what you wish for.
The Central-Southern Oregon Coast is easily my favorite vacation spot in the continental US. If you are all outdoorsy, it is a fantastic place to be with nearly endless beaches and lush forests to hike--you can literally pull right off of the 101 and feel like you're in another world. Bonus points that it is very rarely above 65-70 degrees. :)
This is where I live. If you can stand the 8 gray months of rain, fog, wind and such, it's a great place to live. But that's a huge IF, unless you've lived here most of your life. :) It's more of a vacation spot for most people during the 4 good months. hehe, we like it that way. Get out of the southern heat here in summer.
I live in Mendocino County in the area talked about. We love it because people don’t live here and it’s so beautiful and peaceful.
Come visit any time or redwoods are amazing and magical.
Live in the Sierra Foothills and drive out to the Mendocino Coast frequently. Beautiful area.
I heard that crazy stuff happens in the Mendocino county is that true or no
@@adynathaly3145 crazy stuff???
If immigration continues, the area will be ruined in 50 years.
It’s an amazing, beautiful area. The Oregon dunes are a LOT of fun. Sand boarding is great for families.
The hiking and plentiful, sometimes empty beaches are incredible. Just drive up 101 and you’ll have many opportunities to pull off and go to many state parks and public easy-access beaches.