How a law professor discovered the oldest Chinese restaurant in America
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2024
- The Chicago Café in Woodland has been a family-run Chinese restaurant since 1903.
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as the child of a parent who owned a Chinese restaurant, that statement is absolutely true. My mom said there’s no way my son is going to be in the restaurant business. She slaved away so I can have a better life. Thanks mom, love you.
This is true for most Asian immigrants!
@@eradicatepoverty5444 I’m going to go 1 further and say all immigrants. Especially looking at today’s demographics Latinos are making a huge surge and the most educated immigrants right now are actually African, surpassing east and south Asians.
Its not the best way of thinking really. It's having a mentality of thinking low of others. Any business is a lot of work if you're the owner. You're "slaving" away one way or the other. When being a successful restaurant owner is great and makes money, how is that a bad thing. And one can always hire people to do the work one doesn't want to. They work it because they want to. It's the same mentality that lead to people thinking low of trade jobs and now immigrants who take over these jobs are doing better in the usa l, making money.
@@flatcube3706 It is undeniable that service and labor jobs are significantly more physically demanding than blue collar jobs. Even if blue collar jobs are mentally draining, it doesn't leave you in pain every night. Owning a business doesn't automatically mean that the restaurant is successful either. In some cases, and I have anecdotal experience, the restaurant makes just enough money to get by, but if they hire even 1 employee to reduce their workload, then the revenue drops significantly due to wages. So instead, they just took it head on even if it meant working early in the morning and late into the night so they could save money. For every successful restaurant, there's many more that are decent or struggling to get by.
Great Mom 😊🥀
Fun Fact: China still had Emperor when it opened in 1911.
Interesting, America still had King when it opened in 1607, didn't know China was so young.
Republic of China and People's Republic of China are younger than the USA too. Even Prussia was younger than US.
Lies again? NASCAR GrabCar USD SGD
Even funner fact china didnt exsist till 1911!
I wish this video was longer and showecased some of the food
It’s sad to see a place like this go, it’s part of Chinese American history, wish there’s a way to preserve this unique establishment
Perhaps, then again for the owners, they did fulfill the goal through opening this restaurant after 3 generations. It had a brilliant run.
@@passbyicecube indeed, well said
It's not just part of Chinese American history, it is part of American history.
Yeah unless someone wants to buy it to continue the tradition (they can teach the recipes to the new chef), it’s just the cycle of mom and pop restaurants. The restaurant business is tough.
“May have experienced discrimination?” Cmon man.
Not to correct, but just noting that it could be that the may they used was as an auxiliary function to show concession, e.g.:
"he may be slow but he is thorough"
They already stated that Chicago Cafe was left out of the business census, but their point was that the restaurant stayed resilient despite sinophobia
I opt to give the benefit of the doubt, especially if a word has multiple meanings. I can see how his tone could be misleading, though.
@@urgo2man The Chicago cafe is not in Chicago. It's in Woodland, CA. ABC 10 is not a channel in IL, ABC 7 serves the Chicago area. Also, a UC Davis prof would not be traveling all the way to Chicago to eat at a cafe. Historically, Chinese immigration to the US has always centered around California, Hawaii, and NYC. Chicago's Chinese community is much smaller and less significant.
Whites experience discrimination now. But...do all of them? It stands to reason not all asians experienced discrimination. Thus, their factual statement.
@@urgo2man Why are you saying you’re not correcting them? You ARE. Since the usage of “may” isn’t an opinion, there IS a correct answer. Apologizing for correcting and characterizing both sides as opinions only creates doubt in your comment. You already thought the restaurant was in Chicago, so you’re not helping yourself trying to convey your point.
@@mynameisname567oh! Did not catch that detail 😅 funny name, I wondered why they didn't explore the origins of being called the "Chicago" cafe
Such a charming and delightful looking restaurant.
Greetings from Canada! Great reporting. Beautiful story!
NYC had Chinese restaurants in the late 1800s. The earliest restaurant to open in the US was in 1849 in San Francisco.
That's why the "continually operating" condition
Will need to visit this place ASAP.
Miss the Shanghai Bar and Resturuant In Auburn CA that was older then this and open but family fights closed it...
I wonder what the fights were about?
I used to go to a restaurant as a kid in Wichita, Kansas, but my mom said someone threw a cat in the restaurant's attic to frame them and then called the police, and they had to shut down. I don't know if that's true or not.
Trying to carry on a family business for more than several generations is extremely difficult. Always about $$.
@@hblee88 It's not about money, because a family business is typically longstanding. There is revenue there. It's about personal choice and individual dreams over family values and tradition.
"You work at a Chinese restaurant, so your kids don't have to work at a Chinese restaurant..."
yes my parents just rrtired! and they arent used to it being chinese .chinese =hardwork. please enjoy life. i made them promise to not work at least 6 months ! so far so good! we are all grown and all work. im so happy to hear how loved they are by community. 💕🌸💚🌸
It’s sad. Working so hard your whole life that you don’t have time to find hobbies or things you can enjoy for yourself. Hope they find some fun in retirement!
@@atomic_ryu i feel like quite a few people go through that though. A lot of people go back to working after retirement. Also not being used to retiring doesn't mean they don't have enjoyable things to do. Its just a lot of hobbies are usually done in the few hours after you get off work, and they become boring after more than a few hours a day. It's hard to entertain yourself 24/7.
Are these your parents in the video?
Hope you had a blast trolling and pretending to be someone's child. Get a life.
Great reporting
Why Chicago Cafe? Woodland is in Yolo county California. I lived there 40 years ago, but never went to this particular Chinese restaurant.
That's an answer that's probably been lost forever. I found an article on the UC Davis site and it said:
"My grandfather opened it, and everybody asks me the question, ‘Why do they call it ‘Chicago’?’” Paul Fong said during a rare break from work at the café on that Tuesday. “I have no idea. That was 120 years ago. Maybe he came [via] Chicago.” (The UC Davis research shows the name “Chicago” was used in association with Chinese restaurants in various parts of the country.)"
Wikipedia still has the other place as the oldest someone needs to fix it.
I would, but I don't know enough about source rules to change it. I'm pretty sure that UA-cam is never allowed as a reference. Even though they're literally showing the interior of the building claiming it's from 1903 and various newspaper snippets, those still aren't proof. Because it's on a UA-cam video. I'm not sure what websites and reports on them are allowed since I don't know, but if someone could find out that would be great.
It deserves an honorable mention - this place might be technically 8 years older, but the Butte location actually feels like going back in time and is surrounded by blocks of preserved 1880s-1920s buildings and signs. Unfortunately it is a couple hundred miles from just about anything, so very few people will ever actually go (and the food, like I can tell from looking here - is not what i'd describe as good, perhaps more historical). Of course, both are noobs compared to establishments in china - Chings Bucket Chicken house is nearly 1000 years old, and I had amaizing food at a place in Beijing that was 700 years old and several that were 200-300 years.
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa790 you could probably add a section for "other restaurants claiming to be the oldest". That might get around the sourcing issue, because you're not making an outright statement of fact.
Real good, and thanks for the info that restaurants were about the only place Chinese could work. I'll guess laundries were the other. This joint will be missed more when it is gone than enjoyed when it was here. Another tragic loss but this is how life is.
i wonder if they're willing to sell the business to someone else who wants to continue the legacy or like an apprentice
Very cool video & I would love to check it out!!
Love stories like this. 😊 This is what makes America great. Hard word paying off and your kids having a better life than you.
Sure, that's one of the lessons, but it's also we used hide people the country didn't like even if they wanted to work, shrink their options to get them out of the way--which in the case of Chinese food, we Americans also have a history of mocking and insulting--and they succeed inspite of that. That's America too.
@@somethingcleverhere you’re 100% correct and I’m not asking you to ignore reality but your mental health is directly related to the way you perceive information. There were way more interesting facts and uplifting moments in that story than there were negatives. I chose to see the good in things. Maybe give it a try, being a “Debbie downer” gets old real fast.
@@Lostin2024 I reacted to you generalizing the story down to a nub--I'd argue it actually diminishes their accomplishments by reducing it to hard work and just how America is. Yes, let celebrate what works, and also improve on things when we see them, which starts with acknowledging them.
Businesses like these are the backbone of country! Make sure to support your local businesses 😊
It’s very interesting that the Paul, the cafe owner, has a Chinese accent even though he must have been born in America. I assume he lived in a very cloistered Chinese community in Woodland.
Arnold Schwarzenegger still has his Austrian accent
@@robocop581 What??? Schwarzenegger was born in Austria. It’s difficult for an adult to lose an accent. Oddly, he says that he can no longer speak German fluently.
Paul from Hong Kong.
Paul was not born in the U.S. He emigrated from Hong Kong and was born in the family village in China. The Chinese Exclusion Act forbade Chinese in the U.S. from bringing their families over. His grandfather was already here in 1903 but he couldn't bring over his wife or children. Paul's father most likely got to the U.S. as a "paper son." Google it. Even though the Act was repealed in 1943, the paper sons already here could not bring over their families because that would have revealed that they came under false papers. Congress finally rectified this sad dilemma in 1967 when an immigration amnesty was declared, which resulted in a large influx of Chinese women and children a that time. Paul arrived in 1973, a beneficiary of that amnesty. It is a very common history for many, many Chinese families in the CA central valley, particularly those from the Toi Shan region of China.
@@bellesogne thanks for that, i had no idea...you spared me a rabbit hole...i was curious about his accent too..
The food must be good. That family didn't get run out of town.
Im surprised this video has not yet gone viral. Usually from 2015 to 2018, something like this, like great big story days, this type of story was in a golden age.
Guess the winning formula is short form videos now
Agreed, this should be viral
What a cool story
4:36 Bragging rights around the mah jong table. Doctor, lawyer, pharmacist, accountant. The big four. My parents hit the quad, one of each.
Today the bragging rights is Tech, Hedge Fund, AI and TikToker 😂
@@robocop581 Tiktoker only if they bring in money, otherwise its the biggest failure
@@robocop581 software engineer, doctor, quant, ceo
@@icodestuff6241 Portfolio Manager, Radiologist, RE Agent, UA-camr
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What a revelation! I had thought the Pekin Noodle Parlor in Butte, Montana was the oldest Chinese restaurant still in operation. But, it's the Chicago Cafe? In Woodland, California? I've never heard of this place. And, I'm sure most people haven't. But, it just oozes history. And, from the food in the video, I can tell it's patently old school. I'd love to visit and eat there if I can one day. Wow...
The evidence for "oldest" seems pretty slim. Not exactly solid history work here, lol. Nevertheless, I don't think which is old-EST matters much. It is old, and remarkable, and wonderful.
Same story for my grandfather, but just substitute in Macedonian. These are great immigrant stories and luckily our culture continues to adapt and change to accept these people into our country.
It's a give and take. Never come to North America thinking you can continue on like it was in your homeland. The point of coming is to change and move on.
Funny how the owner lapsed into Cantonese briefly at 1:58 .. his accent suggests that he grew up speaking more Cantonese than English
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That is a rare find
A very neat and authentic story, lives, livelihoods and friends 🧡
Amazing 👏
Q❤
The oldest "continuing operations" restaurant. There were such restaurants back in the 1800's.
Both restaurants look yummy and historically AMAZING
Well, I know where I'm eating whenever I make a trip to Chicago. I have got to visit this place before the owners retire.
On Lock Sam in Stockton, California opened in 1896 and operated until someone challenged their ADA wheelchair access, creating a legal nightmare that they chose not to accept. They closed then reopened the restaurant 3 years later at the same location.
So they closed due to political correctness. Isn’t it ironic, political correctness disproportionately hurts immigrant and minority owned businesses.
@@marvinsulzer8258 lol aint life grand !.. lolol you'll get over it kiddo.. lolol
So why is it called chicago cafe i wonder
I live in Woodland but a restaurant in Davis named Tasty Gourmet is better.
But the building looks more recent
What a treasure!
Usually, small town chinese restaurants are not really authentic chinese food, they cater to the palate of western local residents in and around town. As you enter a city, you'll see authentic chinese restaurants, when you enter one you'll see chinese folks eating and the taste is different.
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Google Maps stated it is closed temporarily?😢
The kids can totally hire someone to run the restaurant and keep it in the family. Manage it through a holding company.
They can also sell the business instead of just winding it down.
"Specializing in Polynesian Island Dinners and American Dishes"? Was this place always a Chinese restaurant?
Yep and places like this getting zoned out for a McDonald’s or red lobster nowadays
Professor Eats Chinese food w a knife and fork 😅
lol, that use to be me. I didn't learn how to use chopsticks until I was in my mid twenties and I'm from the Philippines. I taught myself though :)
Looks tasty!
Honest question if his great grandfather, founded the restaurant and he is the third generation owner. Why does he have an accent?
This guys family been here for 3 generations but still speaks with a Chinese accent?
I mean they can definitely look for a willing apprentice if their children and grandchildren aren't interested in the job.
Those private booths are money maker.
Welp, stop the bickering and make way for this one: "The first Chinese restaurant, Hong Far Low, opened in 1875. During this period, a number of factories moved into the area and created Boston's historic garment district that remained active until the 1990s."
That is Chinese food? That's gwai low food.
food doesn't look that good you go there for the history; by the same token, a lot of 'historic' hotels aren't that comfortable.
Why does the owner speak like a recent immigrant if he's been in this country all his life?
"Are you going to be sad?" "No", a great response to the idiotic reporter's question. By the way, what and where is "Woodland"?
I hope he don't close it. There will be plenty of people interested in buying and taking over the oldest Chinese Restaurant.
Wait, Grandchildren can take it over!!!!
why doesnt the law professor buy it?
Grandkids step up!
is it the best chinese food?
It's crazy how the Qing Dynasty still existed while this establishment opened.
And...google map says it's out of business.
Im a little confused, he's 3rd gen American yet still has an accent. How come?
Chinese-Americans (or "American-born Chinese", as they prefer to call themselves) tend to be slower to assimilate than other groups.
Can we at least get the recipes before they die off? These recipes may have lasted decades, if not hundreds of years. That is worth preserving, even if their children and grandchildren don't think so.
What a wonderful story!
On the issue of no offspring to takeover the family restaurant business, that' everywhere across every ethnicity especially among this generation.
Why does he have an accent if he’s a 3rd generation American?
Probably passed down from grandparents to parents then to him
No someone explained it… he’s not born in America. His grandfather came in 1903 during the Chinese exclusion act. So he wasn’t about to bring Paul’s father too they found some loophole. By the time Paul’s father reunited with his grandfather, Paul was born. But they weren’t allowed to bring a Paul nor his mother until 1967. I suspect by 1967, Paul would have been a young man. Way too late in life to lose one’s accent. So blame systemic racism. Three generations of Chinese Americans from same family yet none born in the US.
@@marvinsulzer8258 .. apparently so racist in the USA that they spent their lives trying to get there to stay..??? ..lololol cheers from sunny Thailand lolol
Prejudice and discrimination , as old as civilization itself .
I wonder if it’s any good wow
"Chinese"
May have experience discrimination!😂
Go to any Asian country if you want to see discrimination
Do they have lynching?😂
@@dynasty781yes and worse
Why chicago cafe ? It’s in California
Misleading for sure. Watched the whole video, thinking no way the oldest one is in Chicago, it has to be somewhere in California or New York.
@@jtttt nope, it is in butte Montans..llololol NY And LA real estate $$ wpied out ALL the old Chinese restaurants in the 90's
Great story! Thanks for highlighting Chinese immigrants history.😊
I'm second generation Chinese and it brings me joy to see other Chinese people around the world doing well
Honestly the food looks bad
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The Chicago Cafe, open since 1903...still hasn't had one Chinese customer. The reason? Their menu still doesn't have one authentic Chinese dish in it.
Every modern asian country have there version of the exclusion act to this day
Very strange looking chinese food. It's like a mixed plate that you get from the buffet. You'll never get Chinese food like this in Australia.
None of these restaurants are "Chinese" anymore - they're as Italian as Marconi and Cheese.
3:49 "CASH ONLY," huh? I wonder why?
I mean, ever since Expressions Hair Design et al. v. Schneiderman, a SCOTUS case from 2017 that controls each and every business in the United States, credit card surcharges are perfectly legal, with some industry experts suggesting that such surcharges for only those who use plastic make it less costly than raising prices for everyone. As the business owner you can still refuse any form of payment you want -- even cash -- so the customary refusal of checks is still no excuse.
Could it be that cash transactions are easy to hide from the Tax Man? I'm not sure, so any guidance from experts who REALLY know this subject would be very much appreciated.
Tell the Department of Health to INSPECT THE KITCHEN. As a retired inspector, Chinese restaurants had the highest DEFICIENCIES for cleanliness and fire hazards.
the bell is disgusting. listen...im not gonna spew hateful speech or things that aren't found.. BUUUT I've worked 15 years fast food and i asked a local health inspector one day why tv tells us chinese restaurants are gross af and he legit told me its common and is somthing cultural. he had no other explanation, when I initially asked I got a huh? and then a "o ya" lol
because if you asked for facts or data you'd realize he was making it up 😂
How is this guy born in the US but have a Chinese accent?
Because his parents, grandparents and great grandparents spoke Chinese.
Other video said he immigrated from Hong Kong in 1973.
Paul was not born in the U.S. He emigrated from Hong Kong and was born in the family village in China. The Chinese Exclusion Act forbade Chinese in the U.S. from bringing their families over. His grandfather was already here in 1903 but he couldn't bring over his wife or children. Paul's father most likely got to the U.S. as a "paper son." Google it. Even though the Act was repealed in 1943, the paper sons already here could not bring over their families because that would have revealed that they came under false papers. Congress finally rectified this sad dilemma in 1967 when an immigration amnesty was declared, which resulted in a large influx of Chinese women and children a that time. Paul arrived in 1973, a beneficiary of that amnesty. It is a very common history for many, many Chinese families in the CA central valley, particularly those from the Toi Shan region of China.
Probably in SF or Seattle, not Chicago or Montana.. lol
Woodland, CA - NW of Sacramento. Google Maps says it is temporarily closed. Maybe just to keep outsiders away.
no proof?? so, nope,, oldest one is in Butte Montana..lol until you prove different
I just hope this law professor doesn’t end up suing the restaurant
those are not authentic Chinese cuisines. but bastardized version of it.
This is Cantonese cuisine. Not "Chinese". I find it very irritating people are lazy enough to stuff everything "Chinese" together. I hope there will be more accurate representation on Cantonese cuisine.
This is very far from Cantonese cuisine after the many generations it's been in the US.
@@tsujimasen As a Cantonese myself I disagree with what you say.
@@dawnnadir yes, I’m pretty sure you can find a Chicago Combination Plate for 1 in Guangdong.
@@tsujimasen I think you can find it at any cha chaan teng in HK Macau Canada UK Australia Japan Germany and etc ...
@@dawnnadir cha chaan teng or hk cafe is another style of cuisine separate from Chinese American food, which Chicago Cafe falls under, the easiest difference being Cha chaan teng has a British origin whereas Chinese American food has an American origin. Not all western food is the same.
Being from China, I have to say that that food looks absolutely awful ! I know that recipes are changed to suit the American palate, but still.
Eating with knives and forks too.
Yeah, bc eating with chopsticks is hard for westerners. Not everyone is good with chopsticks. And I'm Chinese as well, and you need to stop being judgmental, otherwise you are no better than those westerners who are racist towards us.
I'm sure American food is absolutely awful in China, so it's a push. 😅
@@RudieObias 😭 chicken sandwiches are indeed awful in Chinese KFCs
It’s not not awful. In China there are different regional cuisines. Most Sichuan friends I know things the rest of China has awful food. Think of Chinese American food as the 6th regional Chinese cuisine. You got Sichuan, Cantonese, Northern Chinese, and Chinese American. Not one is more or less authentic than the other. As long as the chef is Chinese .
@@marvinsulzer8258 lol, nobody cares about your issues karen, as many others stated, the food looks awful ! lololol you'll get over it kiddo ..lol cheers from sunny Thailand ! lolol
🎵Chinese food makes me sick.🎶
How?
@@aznfriedrice415 They use sesame in everything, allergic.
There are many selections in Chinese food, you just have to find the right one for you. Of course bad experience will hold you off from venturing further in, but if you have a chinese friend, talk to them and they can suggest certain foods that you may not be allergic to. Also, they do not use sesame in everything lol.
@@Saelee2004 That's a lie. Are you even Chinese.
Who cares? 🤣
Looks unappetising.