MBTI Cognitive Functions Masculinity and Femininity
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- In today's video I propose a theory that attempts to explain the inherent nature of cognitive functions.
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Having working theories in your head that you aren’t committed too is very INTJ.
I do think that Yin and Yang are far better descriptions than Masculine and Feminine. Because, even though assigning one or some function(s) to Masculinity or Femininity does not necessarily mean that it's lacking from the other type, it will still be unfair to assign such functions (to either masculinity or femininity) basing only on a person's understanding or calculations of the matter without any studies or experiments to support it.
please do another video in how masculinity/femininity of cognitive functions manifest in different types
Interested to know more about how first two functions work together to represent either a yin or yang type ,
Why would the third and fourth function not be involved? In theory one would assume they all are invlolved, but the lower you go in the stack the lower their influence would be?
I'm inclined to agree with you. As an intj, I couldn't wrap my mind around "feminine Te", other than that I'm not naturally assertive. Because we all know when Te shows up, it's not there to mess around 😅
Read your article a while ago, great to hear you talk about it in video format.
Btw, Jung pretty much agrees with you in Psychological Types
Makes perfect sense and well put together. Something a bit missing, idk what it is yet
The concept of " Yin & Yang" is not on dualism like white or black instead, it's a energy spectrum on the scale. That's why so many people can not comprehend the whole concept.
No such a thing like science or spirituality, but there is no dualism b/w but we know about what to think but doesn't understand how to think. I love your comment... still question mark on it:)))))))))
THINKING is the beauty as human beings.... lol hooray
This is awesome! Yes please do more videos on this topic. It's very interesting! Thanks, Chris!
This is a very good concept and it does seem to align itself pretty well when you walk through all of the types, well done.
It’s taken me quite a while to understand the idea of masculine feminine components in cog functions. I really like your representation of this, especially in terms of yin and yang! I actually type as an INTJ, and your conclusion towards the end of the video makes a surprising amount of sense to me!
I’ve had this theory for many years. So refreshing to hear someone else talking about it.
Hello, i am actually a ENTJ female and have struggled with expressing my femininity. Making friends that are girls and other things I have struggled with. But I do find it interesting that Fe was considered masculine, because up to 50% of the feminine population has Fe as there top two functions. But I definitely found this video interesting and would love to learn more about this! Thank you!
Yes please another video exploring the other component of your theory would be super interesting!
I think you hit the nail on the head. This also corresponds with hermetic thought
Agree with everything you've said. Very insightful video. Thanks for posting.
As a fellow INTJ I love your videos and how you explain things. Thanks for making so many ;)
Yes, good one Asura! I feel like this is way more representative of the functions! Clear cut masculine and feminine ("Hard and Soft" maybe?) functions seem weird, unless it is Te and Ni like you said.
IF my functions could talk separately:
My Te says this theory holds up and seems practical, and my Fi says it is now my preferred way of viewing the functions. My Ni is going crazy over how this can be implemented into the "plan" and Se is still confused as to why I'm still invested and interested in personality types!
- INTJ
Wonderful. Best Jungian Typology video I've seen in a while. Would love to see a debate between you and Objective Personality on this topic. Or a conversation with John Schultz Barnes. I think you're really onto something here
I love the triple gender slots rather than the double, and the 3 stages of growth within the function is something ive thought about myself but haven't seen anyone talk about. Would love to hear more from you on this
Makes perfect sense, great theory, run with it!
Greetings Asura.
Thank you for such an insightful exploration of the functions. Your theory makes full sense, I belive it projects an understanding of how certain functions create a sense of duality and intricate projection of the personality as a whole. I belive you are tapping into the neurological aspect of the functions, this is more based on the energy core or fundamentals of the functions, giving an indepth insight of how we digest and project energy as conscious beings. The archetypes of the functions projected in most of the time is about energy processing and synchronicity, your insight is about energy harvesting and orionality of the function, in which case I belive it is two different dimensions completely. Please continue, I am interested for more.
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Thank you
I've read your article on this few months ago on your site so I've got spoiled on this.
This is so interesting! I am an ISFP male, and I relate to your ISFP description on blog a lot.
When I am stressed I go all the way and am 10 times more efficient and pushy compare to my normal, lay back self.
this is fascinating please more^^
I think this is a pretty solid theory, and I would like to see the subsequent video you have planned to learn more.
I love this concept of interpreting Yin/Yang energy into cognitive functions and the combinations of stacks that can occur. *Masculine and *Feminine has become sensationalized and tad bit exaggerated based on societal trends. Thanks for providing me with yet a new way of interpreting Personality Typing.
Hello, Chris. 'Masculinity and Femininity'
After your te-rrific content, I went down several rabbit holes as I often find I will do after I listen
to one of your videos. Your videos offer me a UA-cam version of a classic university education and there are always homework assignments for me from your class. And please tell Billy to stop kicking the
back of my chair. (teasing now)...
Carl Jung has a quote on William Blake in his 1921 book 'Psychological Types' Chapter X
and I have been thinking about it ever since the first time I read what he wrote. I have always found that Blake has a symbology in his poetry that interests me
and synchronicity sometimes finds a way to offer answers to my questions.
TIL from AsuraPsych.
I couldn't quite connect the dots to something I read but if one considers Logos and Ethos
as Masculine and Feminine (Dave and Shannon, lol)
and or 'Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus' in the planetary energies
then this rabbit hole lead me to remember a passage I keep rereading in Chapter Ten.
and your video connected the dots from Si to Ni.
how Fe Fi fo fun...thanks.
Jung wrote...
"Blake's intuition did not err when he described the two forms as the "prolific" and the "devouring"
[1] As is [p. 415] shown by the general biological example, both forms are current and successful after their kind ; this is equally true of the typical attitudes.
What the one brings about by a multiplicity of relations, the other gains by monopoly."
Here is where you video connected 'the sacred and the profane' to the 'prolific and the devouring'
for me.
and because boomers gonna boom, si-gh...
Prolific and Devouring...I worked with two Green Berets (Hoo ah!)
who could quote poetry from William Blake, (they love ' Tyger, Tyger burning bright')
and the very next minute, they were stealing and prolifically devouring my French Fries.
and may I say I have enjoyed the Yin and Yang of your Hair.
"Perceptual realms". 8:51 Keirsey's book 'Please Understand Me refers to people as either Concrete and Abstract in their language.
Would you consider Concrete to be masculine and Abstract to be feminine if we follow the patterns?
I love the starset poster, you have good taste
You have an excellent premise, and you should commit and follow through with it.
Hmm... interesting theory. I would like to see a part two to this theory like you mentioned at the end of this video. I never really considered the idea of yin and yang functions. I mostly just stayed with the vanilla MBTI stuff since alternate "branch" theories seemed too wonky, such as Objective Personality's theory on Masculinity/Femininity and just their approach to MBTI always felt off-putting to me. But I do enjoy this theory and I look forward to seeing more theories like this in the future. Not just by you, but by everyone in the MBTI community.
Waiting for the next video!
I am convinced of this.
For me, your theory is correct, and correspond well with MBTI (the table is perfect)
Your order of function is the same than is the table : _ Ni, Si dom Line 1 _ Fi Ti Line 2 _ Ne Se dom Line 3 _ Fe Te dom Line 4
And the same I classified them from the less visible/present to the most visible/present : Ni Si Fi Ti Ne Se Fe Te.
It correspond well why the TJ are on the corners of the table, and the types maybe who have less friends, less chance to connect with others.
Especially us INTJ and ENTJ who have Ni and Te top2 functions : FFF and MMM
Having 2 very opposites functions directly next to each other at the top, can surprise people and make us weird I think.
I hope one day, we will find/create a theory/analyse of the Energy and Balance (and maybe make it scientific who know?), by connecting all of theses :
_Yin/Yang, Feminine/Masculine, etc...
_MBTI, cognitives functions
_ I Ching (Erik Thor did a video about relation between MBTI and I Ching - ua-cam.com/video/gpW1oJMMN40/v-deo.html)
He find the 8 functions correspond well with the 8 elements or trigrams, and I find it make sense.
_ others things about energy... black hole/white hole ?
MBTI and I Ching look very similar, and seem have some corelations, like 2 different points of views / theories, which maybe could be mixed together one day.
That could explain why I likes sword/sky Te and water/ice Ni.
All the INTJ I met by the past liked swords, and some INTJ, ENT profil picture on youtube or discord are the sky.
As I was clicking this video and preparing to watch it, I was singing to myself a song "Manifest" by Starset. This video loads, and there is a Starset poster evident in frame.
Woah. That INTJ prediction ability is a real thing.
I watched the video about the different types already and I finally have an example of the MFM clashing with the FFF for ENFJ.
I'm pretty good at expressing my emotions and essentially everything on the feminine list describes me to a point. Except I can be bad at receiving and I can be intellectually inclined/randomly analytical.
Great video! I love classifications like this. I've used the same sort of idea for a while to classify the functions (masculine/feminine like this) but then wihout the involvement of perception and judging classification (somehow I did not think of that - it does make sense!). Without the perception and judging involvement to me Te and Se seemed the most most masculine and Ni/Fi the most feminine. Somehow the idea that the most masculine things were paired with the most feminine seemed to give it some sense of consistant logical structure to me, because then masculinity and feminine sort of neutralize eachother. With 3 ways rather than 2 or 4 to classify them as masculine or feminine , some functions end up sharing their amount of masculinity while others do not. Based on that, I wonder if there would be a fourth way to classify them, which then would then distinguish them all and create a more beautiful logical structure. Of cause just because in some structural way that would make sense, it does not automatically mean it must work like that. However, I find that in systems like yin/yang, and typology it seems there is are usually somehow a consistancy in structure. For example, the top 2 functions are the opposite of the bottom 2, the main stack 4 functions are in some sense the opposite of the shadow..etc
Has there ever been a 4th way to classify them that you wondered about?
As Jung said, the most influential things come in 4s, the concept of the quaternity.
Sadly, three is the limit I have been able to conceptually get to without making large conceptual/logical stretches which tear at the integrity of the model. I think what you'll find though is that either way, some types and function pairs will be even/unveven, no matter if you use 3 or 4. If there is a 4th, I think it won't differ in terms of how masculine/feminine each function is. So for example, Te will still be the most M while Ni the most F. The issue with the 2 limit is that as you said both Se and Te are the same level of MM, which I think a differentiation needs to be made between the two. With three, we can rank order all 8 functions with minimal ties. Though a fourth layer is possible.
Thanks for watching!
Air/Fire/Earth/Water energy. Each element possesses three different energy as well. We need to start with deep understanding of these energy and then much easier to see different kinds of masculine an feminine energy manifested into our personality. If so, we can see energy in color not in black and white:))))))
A cognitive function pairing by itself isn’t balanced, but when you look at a type’s four valued functions together, it then becomes balanced.
For example, ENTJ, Te = M/M/M; Ni = F/F/F; Se = M/M/F; Fi = F/F/M; therefore 6 M & 6 F. Same goes the other three gamma types who share those same functions.
Delta types have Te & Fi as well, so 4 M and 2 F. Add Si = F/M/F & Ne = M/F/F; you still end up with 6 M & 6 F.
Beta types have Se & Ni, so 4 F and 2 M. Add Fe = M/F/M & Ti = F/M/M; again you still end up with 6 M and 6 F.
Finally the Alpha types have Fe/Ti/Si/Ne, and if you count them you still have 6 M and 6 F.
@@deedoc6241 That's absolutely true. However, if the idea is that the first function is stronger than the second and the second stronger than the third (etc) then I think that there will be less balance if you for example combine different dual types together. For example, if you take a 2 dual types that have a judging function as a first function (ENTJ and ISFP) they will be more yang in total than if they have a perceiving function as a first function (let's say ISTJ and ENFP) if you take into consideration that hte first function counts as more than the second and so on. Te does not really neutralize Fi in terms of yin and yang and and Si does not neutralize Ne. Fi and Te together will still be yang and thus not balanced and Si and Ne will still be yin.
I think it would be a more beautiful model if opposing parnters would fully cancel out eachother (neutralize) and create a tin/yang balance, just like concept of the other half. The other half of 55% is not 50%..becaue then there is 5% too much. 55% needs 45% to neutralize. The concept of yin and yang is always about the balance in the middle. (maybe I sort of am repeating what I have already said).
ESTJ, ENTJ, ENFJ, ESTP, ESFJ, ESFP, ENTP, etc
SeNi > NeSi > NiSe >= SiNe (depends on if you have Se third or fourth)
Te > Fe > Ti > Fi
Although nowadays the societal defintion of masculinity is backwards in that Si is considered a very masculine function due to its stoicism.
I like listening to your theories. Oh yeah! give me some food.
I think the terms "assertive" and "passive" better align with growth of a function. We can refer to the expression of the function in a person as either or and go from there
I think that because a healthy individual can assert themselves when negative behaviors and people push them. Whereas an unhealthy individual is passive about it.
And this is where i agree with mbti in using -A or -T in their dichotomies.
Spot on.
I like it.
Love the: But hey thats just a theory, a tyyyyyyyype theory.
I would enjoy seeing the next video.
I think your theory is pretty logical in a Ni way. It's a solid way to explain the Yin/Yang nature of functions. However, I would challenge the notion that extroverted functions are masculine and introverted functions feminine; I think the opposite. I think the subjective nature of introverted functions lead to them leading more stubborn in the midst of challenge. On the other hand, I think the extroverted nature of functions allows (and requires) the functions to get feedback and interact with the outside world and are more easily influenced by them. Extroverted functions may seem overpowering compared to an introverted function, but I believe this is an incorrect assessment based on judgements from the OUTSIDE. Take the fierceness an introverted function out and compare it its extroverted counterpart, and notice that it does not readily budge in the face of outside influences (even though it may APPEAR like it is passively taking it). I believe viewing the I/E nature of functions also align with traditional MBTI as taught by Myers/Briggs.
I was thinking something similar E=F and I=M, but I only believe this to be true as it relates to the judging functions. FI is like the rock while NI is like the water.
Great video maek moar plz
Would definitely enjoy your further thoughts on it :)
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Your system looks pretty independent from OP's feminine vs masculine format if you take into consideration the ancient Chinese origins of the yin&yang philosophy and the culture that surrounded ideas of masculinity & femininity in those circumstances as opposed to today's rhythm and the individual cultures that go with it. As one example, my opinion often tends to view introversion as potentially more masculine because it's more self-assured whereas extroversion is more others-reliant and collaborative - but that's a very different perspective from ancient Chinese culture which attributed pomp and universal esteem to the men, while the women took on a more attentive and subtle role. Your theory does explain the extreme differences that INTJs tend to manifest pretty well though, so that part is working! I'm not sure that the cognitive functions are inherently masculine or feminine, so I agree that yin& yang is probably a better application if a consistent understanding of their general nature is desired
This might come from easily picking up general trends from personality theory because each personality theoretically has own strong traits. I'm not sure whether or not certain cognitive fx is correlated to feminine and masculine energy based on the traditional concepts either. It might be related to narcissistic/socio/psychopathic tendency. I also think that individual nature is more likely related to feminine and masculine energy. Sometimes it's super hard to say when I have to separate MBTI from Astrology. Why we need to chop up everything to the specific area then completely ignore the other side.
MBTI helps me narrow down in order to look for certain quality in person then go into more specifically INTJ I've come across is so different even though they have similar tendency. Why Why? please look into Astrology to see some clue. At astrologic level, we can see energy level and so much more......on the whole pic.
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@@Ella-qg4bq yes, I think that multiple platforms of study can do at least as well if not better at gaining a well-rounded understanding of the self and others than simply narrowing down hard on one field; it can at least insure that the learner is prompted to do their own thinking. I guess the pickle that a lot of UA-camrs like OP run up on is the expectation that viewers may or may not have about fields of interest - and the whole masculine/feminine platform is positioned to accommodate narcs and the like all while attempting to explain how two people from the same type can be very different; in my opinion it's just perhaps a little too much frosting if the system is getting harder in an attempt to make things easy; my biggest road-block in that particular spot is that there are days when I feel like...all of my functions are masculine... A day in the life I guess, but I enjoyed the video you shared; the guy looks like he's got some really neat content and a good explanation style with some hard-hitting truths
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As I give it more thought, OP’s Masculine/Feminine seems to be looking for differences in an Individual’s behavior (whether or not they seem more aggressive/pushy or passive/moveable) when using a specific function. Meanwhile, by breaking down each trait that a cognitive function can have and ascribing a yang or yin quality to each trait, your goal seems to be to better describe the cognitive functions themselves. The difference in goals is important to recognize. However, despite this difference, I personally like your understanding of Yang/Yin cognitive functions much more than Objective Personality’s Masculine/Feminine. With OP I was always kind of suspicious about their Masculine/Feminine idea, I think it might make it easier to mistype someone because, for example, their Ne could potentially be mistaken for feminine Se. At least that’s what I think, not saying for certain.
I recently started learning about OP after 2 years of studying MBTI. This theory about m/f in the functions makes much more sense to me. I’m an INFP and read the description of m/f of sensing and could identify with the feminine “snapshot” technique of it. Then thought, that means my Ne is masculine. 🤔 It doesn’t seem to have major masculine qualities yet can sometimes so MFF sounds right. My baby Te comes out swinging though! 😄 I haven’t reached this point yet but in OP would it mean my Fi is feminine with such immovable Te? If so, it seemed to not fit as well because my Fi can be tough with some things. So that FFM describes it better.
Sorry if I just rambled off my life story! 😆
no wonder some people think I'm aggressive, im leading with a triple masculine function Te. 🤣
I understand the concept of how ying/yang each function is, what's your opinion on the fact that introversion and percieving are more common in males? Istp's and intp's have the largest male to female gap at 3:1, a type dominanated by males is more feminine?
Function wise IxTPs lead with Ti, the only masculine introverted function, FMM, with INTPs being slightly more feminine having Ne vs Se. This masculinity in the function expression could very well be leading to a large mistyping due to feminine individuals (usually female) more associating with typically feminine responses on tests, which tend to score them as feelers.
I wonder how much of the yin yang classification is purely abstract and how much of it is related to our biology. In general I do think most people will perceive people with sensing and thinking as more masculine and people with intuition and feeling more feminine.
However, when connecting it to "biological" feminity and masculinity, I wonder if things are as clear when it comes to extroversion and introversion. According to a graph about gender (sex) distribution of the types that are most likely to be n female are the 4 types with Fe as a first or second function rather than Fi or Ni. The types who most likely to be male are the Ti dominants rather than the Te dominants. The types with Fi and Te appear more towards the middle (they are distributed more evenly across male/female).
Then there is another graph about sexual preference of types that displays that male esfj's and enfj's are most likely to be gay of all types. Then the istp male is of course again the least likely to be gay. So Fe and Ti more often seem to be the extremes in these things, whereas Fi and Te more seem to be located in between them
These are quite interesting distributions you have found! Maybe ying and yang or feminity/ masculinity aren't that black-white even in the deepest core of their archetypes. We tend to think that a dichtomy of such type (such type of archetypical concept like ying and yang which seems to be the sort of deepest concept we can think of) must be black and white, but maybe it's more of a dark grey vs a light grey (a mmf vs a ffm). Some sort of "golden middle" or maybe even "golden ratio" in every extreme I guess?
I assume its because being ultra masculine with Se and Te isn't very beneficial in our society anymore. Also, Ni is starting to be considered "masculine" because of its future-oriented nature which can correlate with goals and goal achievement, all of which wouldn't have been beneficial or masculine in the hunting days. Last thing is, since ISFJ is arguably the most common feminine MBTI (INFJ isn't common), then some girls simply take the extroverted versions of these types because they're socialized together-- being an extrovert is easier in gaining status in a herd-like society.
Interesting! So would ESTJ/INFJ be the most masculine/feminine respectively? I had thought it was INFP, but Fi/Te is far too yang.
Correct! One of the reasons I critiqued OPs M/F system is they have ENTJ TeSe as their most masculine type and ISFP FiNi as their most feminine.
There's a few different ways to think about this and in some ways they could be right. So for example, ENTJs have the most masculine outer world of all the types with both Te and Se, BUT this assumes that Ni isn't playing its part, its the auxiliary function for a reason. ESTJs have the more consistent supporting masculine auxiliary, Si, MMM FMF, 4M with a leading triple M.
ISFP FiNi is another thats...close, but misses the mark. In my model perceiving is more feminine so it makes sense that the lead function should be the most feminine, Ni. Fe is the most feminine possible auxiliary to Ni, making INFJs a FFF MFM type, 4F with a leading triple F.
INTJs actually have the most feminine inner world if you look at their two introverted functions, FFF and FFM, but this is balanced by Te being their outer world interface, MMM. In particular, this is why Gamma quadrant (SFPs and NTJs) is interesting in my mind. They have the most M outer pair (Te/Se) but the most F inner pair (Ni/Fi) leading to drastic switches in inner and outer presentation. I plan to do a video on this topic as well to further explain why this matters.
Thanks for watching!
The only disagreement is Ni-- i agree its feminine by itself when tied with an Je function it becomes goal oriented which is masculine
So resembles how each of the “八卦” (eight *something*) are constituted
卦 is usually translated as "trigram".
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What is the purpose of viewing cognitive functions this way, Asura? I can see how OP tries to use masculine/feminine to (perhaps dubiously) “explain” differences in presentation of cognitive functions, but since you’re saying it is fixed, it seems more like another lens for describing functions. I definitely relate to the “extreme shift” for Ni/Te... and have used the yin/yang symbolism before to reconcile it, relating to both the ‘’masculine” and “feminine” at the same time. I’m also looking forward to seeing you develop this little theory further and can tell you’ve put a lot of thought into it. I could try and pick it apart if you like. 😉
The general idea in viewing it like this is to primarily show that I dont think it is a changeable factor and that what other systems may be attempting to show with masculinity/femininity in functions may actually be negative or less developed forms of functions. I think that the functions have inherent M/F natures and that for example if an Ni/Si dom is acting uncharacteristicly masculine/aggressive, there may be a developmental or cognitive processing struggle. The goal is to shift the lens towards what is a healthy representation of a function instead of showing variations with potentially unhealthy components as a ideal.
Another working theory and large factor is how these inherent natures could collide with cultural and gender norm expectations, as well as sexuality even. For example, a lot of people who fall into different gender expressions may be of a type that goes against their cultures normal expression for their gender. Say for example INFPs (Fi FFM with Ne MFF - primarily Feminine on both sides) tend to be one of the most common types associated with gender expression and identity struggles, especially in males. May be some tendency towards feminine expression in these types that might manifest through identity struggles if not allowed to naturally express.
I think this theory has a lot of applications, but I will admit it is still in its early stages. Thanks for watching!
@@AsuraPsych Thanks for clarifying. 🙂 You are being very diplomatic about challenging the OP system. 👍
@@AsuraPsych but the INFP associations with identity struggles may just be a perception. The actual gay stereotype tends to be ESFPs or ESFJ.
@@Ella-qg4bq astrology is a pseudoscience and has been debunked countless times. Personality psychology is not about enlightment. We are not talking about religion. We are talking about scientific knowledge. But there is too much of this pseudoscience in psychology for some reason. It's profoundly sad and sickening.
@@Ella-qg4bq I'm not sure what your point is. But a scientific mind is a rich human mind.
Do estjs score high in conscientiousness than istjs
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I like the idea (def feel better approach then Objective Personality) , but I disagree with the dichotomies. Extraverted functions are shaped by the external world, thus making them fluid like water. Introverted functions push against the tide. Ni and Si both bring order out of chaos, while Ne and Se go with the chaos. I don't think judging functions have anything to do with order, just thinking types. Emotions don't have structure, they flow.
So:
Ni, Si, and Ti are M-M.
Te and Fi are M-F
Ne, Se, and Fe are F-F
Giving points per location in stack, positive for masculine and negative for feminine, we have a very different order for a yin/yang approach then for traditional male/female stereotypes. ISFJs, for instance, are known for creating order despite being 20% of the female population. So they score relatively high. ENTJs, despite being seen by culture as more masculine, are often quite good at adapting to chaos (Se child) to create order (Ni parent). Thus they fit quite well near the middle, accessing both sides. Likewise, INFPs, while stereotypically female, need physical stability (Si child) before they can engage with abstract chaos (Ne parent). Here's my list:
INTJ: 3
ISTJ: 3
ISTP: 2
INTP: 2
ISFJ: 2
INFJ: 2
ESTJ:1
ENTJ:1
ESTP: 0
ENTP: 0
INFP: -1
ISFP: -1
ESFJ: -2
ENFJ: -2
ENFP: -3
ESFP: -3
Finally a haircut.
Youre saying then
ENTJ, ESTJ, ENFJ,
ESTP, ESFP
ESFJ, ENFP, ENTP
ISTJ, ISTP, INTJ,
INTP, ISFP, ISFJ, INFP, INFJ
Is the order? -- taking into consideration the tertiaries
1:49 it's just a theory...
made me laugh
I tend to disagree with you that extraversion is linked to Yang and introversion is linked to Ying, there are very stubborn, immovable form of introversion that you can observe in certain people viserversa there are very fluid extraversion that you can observe from some friendly people. what do you guys think?
And I can say the same about j & p, t & g and s & n
The rest of the model has already accounted for this.
Do you need help promoting your lexicon?
In a female but I am under all the Male Energy lists.
Just what I thought.
Agreed.
Dave is entirely wrong.
Never knew what he is doing.
That is a passive learning attitude? We have to take own responsibility to filter out information so we should have craving of knowledge with critical thinking skills and common sense and our curiosity and creativity brings more more to our mind and we can learn from each other. Every individual has different levels of consciousness and intelligence and only we can do is to bring it to the table and we can discuss or debate or argue whatever to help each other expand the mind. I don't think no one is able to tell about something based on %100 truth. Pls keeping it in mind that they are also in learning process. It's all up to us. I also take some from this video but I don't agree to everything in this video though. Everything is up to us.
@@Ella-qg4bq not everything tho. Most of it makes sense and aligns with what I’ve seen. I’ll listen to what Dave has to say when he starts typing everyone correctly. Most importantly, when he types himself correctly
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We all came from the stardust no matter what. I want to go back to my star ASAP to leave this crazy world..lol If I come back to this earthly life, it would be the most nightmare....I just pray my angels for it every day lol
@@Ella-qg4bq Yeah no more 3-dimensional experience please!
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Although I think Se is more masculine than Fe.
Te is for sure the most masculine of all
Like ESTP and ENFJ. Se and Fe. ESTP is more masculine than ENFJ
I think in those cases it comes down to the function that supports it. Is Se more masculine inherently than Fe? Or are they roughly the same and the supporting function influences the personality more?
ESTP vs ENFJ is a good example but its Se (MMF) Ti (FMM) vs Fe (MFM) Ni (FFF) - ESTP is more M in the top two. ENFJ is one of the 4F types, mostly feminine and ESTP is one of the 4M, mostly masculine.
Compare an ENFJ though to an ESFP, Se (MMF) Fi (FFM) - The ESFP is closer but still more masculine due to the nature of the auxiliary. An ESFJ though, Fe (MFM) Si (FMF) is tied with ESFP.
Some function pairs, like FeNi, will be mostly F while some like SeTi will be mostly M.
For these reasons I don't think Se is more masculine than Fe, I just think the functions it pairs with have a higher threshold for masculinity while Fes pairs have a higher threshold for femininity.
I do see what you mean though and it let me think of things in a new way. Thanks for watching!
@@AsuraPsych that actually does make sense. Thanks for sharing
@@AsuraPsych Since functions exist in pairs. Can we further theorize that Se-Ni Te-Fi are more masculine than Si-Ne and Ti-Fe.
Of course. Te_Fi would be more masculine than Fi-Te.
The most masculine type would come down to the ENTJ then.
Just theorizing here.
@@universologist1941 Kind of. All of the perceiving pairs are 4F 2M while all of the judging pairs are 4M 2F. The difference is that Some of the pairs are more balanced. Si/Ne are more balanced than Se/Ni. Just as Ti/Fe are more balanced than Te/Fi.
I mentioned this in the response to another comment and I am planning to do a video on this soon, the next part of the theory. ENTJs have the most M outer world with both Te and Se, but Ni plays a significant role in Te mediation and therefor the average ENTJ will have a Te that is "on the Ni leash" so to say wheras ESTJs have Si supporting Te, which is slightly more masculine. This leads to that "leash" having more pulling room before on locks.
Another important aspect is that since ENTJs have the most M outer world, they have the most F inner world with both Ni and Fi. This leads to another balancing in the psyche.
@@AsuraPsych I do agree that Judging functions are Yang. Perceiving functions are Yin.
Extroversion is Yang. Introversion is Yin.
But about sensing and intuitive functions. I am not entirely sure.
I guess if we define Yang as more concrete, Yin as more abstract, we could make a case for that. But as an INTJ, I feel Ni and Ne are also about possibilities and future focused. When it is alone, yes. I do agree it is less Yang than Si or Se. But functions are on an axis, so when we have Ni-Se. For example, Ni stops being static. Se will extrovert Ni’s abstraction. In my case, as an Ni dom. It’s ambition or extreme willpower.
Take the ISTJ and INTJ for example. Si Te Fi Ne vs Ni Te Fi Se.
If just based on an objective and general impression, I could very much be wrong about this tho. I never really experimented on this theory. It’s just patterns I observed with Ni.
I believe the INTJ is overall more Yang than the ISTJ. Because Ni-Se axis brings out Ni’s ambition and ideas. Then Te executes it.
ISTJ’s Si-Ne axis will be primarily past focused. Less likely to extrovert that much with Ne. Then Te executes through Si_Ne filter. Si is more about endurance. Si-Ne in the ISTJ is not driven like the Ni-Se in the INTJ.
Take the INFJ and ISFJ for example, again, my impression can very likely be wrong. But I think the INFJ is more Yang than the ISFJ for the same reason. Ni-Se axis is filled with willpower and desire and future focused. The Ni user will want to make Ni ideas come true. So Ni alone seems very Yin. But Ni-Se seems more Yang than Si-Ne.
We have had some very Yang INFJs in history. Like Jesus. Or Hitler. (A bad example I know)
Haven’t seen many ISFJs being influential tho
I have no scientific evidence tho. This is just a theory.
I've considered for a while that Structure-focused is male and Motive-focused is female.
Ctrooper2011 I want to say based on nature our creator created in this physical world
Core of male nature is pride
Core of female nature is jealousy
The greatest form of male possesses wisdom from the head
The greatest form of female possesses the mothership from the heart
This is a critical hidden key to pass on life next to next
But too messed up so constant drama created by messed up human condition no consideration of passing on life.👻 but delusional belief on technology saving humans and life on earth 😐
At this point
the luckiest one on this life
just disappear like light or dust one day this world it's like I never exist here. That's only I feel ~~~~
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None of that has any correlation to Christianity. All of those are a combination of modernism and gnosticism.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free person, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." -Galatians 3:28 USCCB Bible.
In addition, if you want a basic run down of the sexes, let me demonstrate, in a way which favors neither through sexism:
The basic masculine need is separation (and eventual reunion) since males, even effeminate males, always feel a need to distinguish themselves from their mothers as well as everyone else.
The core feminine desire, by contrast, is communion (or course, not to be confused with the Sacrament of Communion which Jesus instituted in the Last Supper) because they know they're the same as their moms.
Males and females are equally capable of pride and jealousy. You're partially right when you mention the fathers and mothers as well as the head and heart, but the latters' connection with the sexes need a direct connection: in the holy structure of the family, fathers represent the brains and mothers represent the heart.
The rest is incomprehensible sophistry, plain-&-simple.
@@Ctrooper2011 my angels say my magic stick doesn’t work to unspell humans any more so just run run run👽
Ageless wisdom
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Humans would be better for life on earth 🌏
Instead of Nonsense cyclic mental cyclic loop like squirrel on the wheel
0:44 just from that i know you are just as narcissistic as me
I don’t think ‘femininity’ is the same as ‘feminine energy’ which is what yin truly is, vice versa for yang.