My dad use to fly the Bonanza. It was a wonderful aircraft. I enjoyed flying in the Bonanza than his Cessna 182. He is gone now, miss flying with him, I miss him. I'll always have the memories though. Nice video.
Bonanzas are not hard to fly. They are the sweetest flying aircraft ever built. Just be proactive with the gear and you’ll be fine. Some people like to pretend that only very “competent” pilots can fly them but anyone can learn in a pretty short amount of time. Landings in them are a dream.
I fly a bonanza also (A36), with gear up and nose down, the bonanza gains speed quickly, and when this happens, some panic and pull up too quickly, over stressing the tail. In turbulent air, just lower your gear and you become as stable as a cessna 182 (same airspeed also)the gear doors act as yaw dampers also to stop the famous bonanza boogie in the v tail.. Once when flying over the smoky mountains , I entered the most severe turbulence in my 30 years of flying. There is nothing quite like seeing a rotor cloud in your windshield. The only way I could maintain control of the airplane was to lower the gear. Even with my seatbelt on, I was almost knocked out from my head hitting the ceiling. I am thankful I had the presence of mind to lower my gear. My wife and young daughter were in the back. THe gold fish crackers my daughter had been eating now decorated my interior as a testament to the severity of the turbulence. So to any new bonanza pilot, this is my tip, don't be hesitant to use your gear as speed brakes, even if you have exceeded the gear extension speed. Also, don't fly a bonanza without an instrument rating.
The Bonanzas are a high performance airplane, they always have been. Training is the key. You said it yourself, of course. If you don't fly the airplane the way it's designed to fly, it's going to turn around and bite you, sometimes hard. But, on the other hand, fly it the way it's supposed to, and you'll have a fast, comfortable mode of personal transportation. One of the other things with the Bonanzas, of course, was the V-Tail spar, but today, that should be taken care of on every V-Tail out there. IF I was looking for an airplane, I would be looking for a four seat retractable, and while the V-Tail isn't on my short list, the F33A certainly is. With a TAT turbonormalized engine, it would make a great cross country flyer. A Skylane RG would also be awesome, with the AirPlains 300hp IO-520 (I think, it may be the IO-540) engine. But, Bonanzas have been around for as long as they have been because they ARE very good airplanes, and if you fly them properly, with the proper mental attitude, you shouldn't have any problems. But, then again, you already know this, it's the others that don't know.
I'm not hear to criticize, but having your mic directly on your lips, over modulates and distorts your voice Try positioning it just below your lower lip and speak over the top of it and I think you will sound much clearer. I liked the content of what you were saying but it was a bit garbled.
The horror stories I've heard about Bonanza: 1/ The early Bonanza wrecks stood out because the tail or wings were often found separate from the main wreckage. ADs addressed weaknesses in the structural design, but safety has improved mainly because pilots know not to stress the airframe. 2/ Pilots who lose spatial orientation in a Bonanza tend to go into a stall spin rather quickly due to unstable roll characteristics of the plane. 3/ Trying to climb at Vx after takeoff is very risky -- If the engine suddenly stops at low altitude with a highly pitched nose it may not be possible to recover and glide.
Any advice for a guy that is learning on a Bonanza with a turbocharger? Any strategies that helped you in your learning? Trying for a high-performance rating and that what I have available to train with. Thanks!!!
Hey Renaissance Man - That's a good question! After the S35 (I think 1966) the price goes up in a hurry! If you can find a 60's model (after the M35) you prolly get the best deal and that's where I'd start looking. Maintenance is key and watch out for the Millennium cylinder AD's. I'd guess you could get a nice plane for 40K. You asked about V35's.... If I were flying a lot of solo IFR, I would do it in my RV7. Just me tho. Thanks for the comment!
You're welcome I was looking at older Bonanzas like P35 and Debonaires but values must have skyrocketed lately as they cost as much as V35 and F33 almost. Oh heck time to keep saving! Still better than owning a Ferrari or exotic car.
I am leaning toward F33/A36 because I like the extra cargo space of A36 and F33 does not have CG issue of V35B and newer airframe for same price point.
Hi I own F-35 bonanza for over 30 years and at one time it was considered a doctor killer The reason why at the time the avionics was wasn't very good and what happens is some pilots would get to their destination airport put the plane into a dive and then pull up and overstress the wings and the tail will come off and that's where he got the nickname the doctor killer is most doctors can Afford this airplane back in the day In the mid-80s the Bonanza Society told Beechcraft to test their aircraft or the will sue on behalf of the owners. Beechcraft to test their all models of aircraft and And found there there was several problems with different models of planes. My bonanza of the F 35 have the was the worst one of all in the Beechcraft company actually one in and fixed all the bonanzas back in the mid-80s and they did it for no charge the added a cough as stiffener and heavier cables to make sure that the tail when I come off on the earlier bonanzas
the issue was after the C model the chord of the stabilizers was increased about 16 inches ahead of the original spar and attach points ..the stab would fail with the leading edge either up or down then followed by the main wings...Beechs fix was the leading edge "cuff" to give a larger margin of safety before failure
When considering issues for my first buy 28 years ago,safety factors were top on my list, then speed and fuel economy. also a purchase price under 60k. I inherited my dad's 1966 s35. sold it and bought a Mooney M20C. Changed to a 3 blade prop for quieter ride, take off performance and decreased chance of shock cooling. The advertisement for this model showed people shoulder to shoulder standing on the wing from hull to wing tip. it also claimed to be used to take hurricane data. Lower stall speed and engine out glide performance was great. now I have an Acro Duster one and an Aztec C with timed out engines. With the same 60k to spend, what do you guys think in comparison of the Mooney, Bonanza or Aztec. Most hours are Chicago to New Orleans. Safety first then speed and economy. Chicago to New Orleans in the morning and back to Chicago after midnight.
My dad use to fly the Bonanza. It was a wonderful aircraft. I enjoyed flying in the Bonanza than his Cessna 182. He is gone now, miss flying with him, I miss him. I'll always have the memories though. Nice video.
Bonanzas are not hard to fly. They are the sweetest flying aircraft ever built. Just be proactive with the gear and you’ll be fine. Some people like to pretend that only very “competent” pilots can fly them but anyone can learn in a pretty short amount of time. Landings in them are a dream.
I fly a bonanza also (A36), with gear up and nose down, the bonanza gains speed quickly, and when this happens, some panic and pull up too quickly, over stressing the tail. In turbulent air, just lower your gear and you become as stable as a cessna 182 (same airspeed also)the gear doors act as yaw dampers also to stop the famous bonanza boogie in the v tail.. Once when flying over the smoky mountains , I entered the most severe turbulence in my 30 years of flying. There is nothing quite like seeing a rotor cloud in your windshield. The only way I could maintain control of the airplane was to lower the gear. Even with my seatbelt on, I was almost knocked out from my head hitting the ceiling. I am thankful I had the presence of mind to lower my gear. My wife and young daughter were in the back. THe gold fish crackers my daughter had been eating now decorated my interior as a testament to the severity of the turbulence. So to any new bonanza pilot, this is my tip, don't be hesitant to use your gear as speed brakes, even if you have exceeded the gear extension speed. Also, don't fly a bonanza without an instrument rating.
Russell - Great comments and I agree 100%. Thanks for the comment.
agree if you buy a bonanza first thing to do is get BPPP checkout and instrument rating!
Thanks for the tip! I'll keep it in mind when I start my training in the Bonanza.
+1 Russell! Great advice!
Now if I could only afford to buy and own a Bonanza, than all would be well in my world!
The Bonanzas are a high performance airplane, they always have been. Training is the key. You said it yourself, of course. If you don't fly the airplane the way it's designed to fly, it's going to turn around and bite you, sometimes hard. But, on the other hand, fly it the way it's supposed to, and you'll have a fast, comfortable mode of personal transportation.
One of the other things with the Bonanzas, of course, was the V-Tail spar, but today, that should be taken care of on every V-Tail out there. IF I was looking for an airplane, I would be looking for a four seat retractable, and while the V-Tail isn't on my short list, the F33A certainly is. With a TAT turbonormalized engine, it would make a great cross country flyer. A Skylane RG would also be awesome, with the AirPlains 300hp IO-520 (I think, it may be the IO-540) engine.
But, Bonanzas have been around for as long as they have been because they ARE very good airplanes, and if you fly them properly, with the proper mental attitude, you shouldn't have any problems.
But, then again, you already know this, it's the others that don't know.
Well said Gary!
Great video, Evan!
I'm not hear to criticize, but having your mic directly on your lips, over modulates and distorts your voice Try positioning it just below your lower lip and speak over the top of it and I think you will sound much clearer. I liked the content of what you were saying but it was a bit garbled.
Hey PC - When I recorded this video I didn't have the plug all the way in and it kept cutting out. I almost didn't post it. Thanks for the comment!
The horror stories I've heard about Bonanza: 1/ The early Bonanza wrecks stood out because the tail or wings were often found separate from the main wreckage. ADs addressed weaknesses in the structural design, but safety has improved mainly because pilots know not to stress the airframe. 2/ Pilots who lose spatial orientation in a Bonanza tend to go into a stall spin rather quickly due to unstable roll characteristics of the plane. 3/ Trying to climb at Vx after takeoff is very risky -- If the engine suddenly stops at low altitude with a highly pitched nose it may not be possible to recover and glide.
I was thinking about purchasing one, would love to get in contact and maybe get any tips and pointers going into it. Thank you!
Any advice for a guy that is learning on a Bonanza with a turbocharger? Any strategies that helped you in your learning? Trying for a high-performance rating and that what I have available to train with. Thanks!!!
Really enjoy your videos!!!
Nice buddy Holly glasses
did you really say "255 knots @ 23000rpm for 11-12 gals/hour"???
Yes! Wicked tailwind from San Diego to Denver. Pure awesome!
155 knots!
For a single guy who flies solo 99% of the time, what is best deal for model and year on a good IFR Bonanza on the market right now?
Hey Renaissance Man - That's a good question! After the S35 (I think 1966) the price goes up in a hurry! If you can find a 60's model (after the M35) you prolly get the best deal and that's where I'd start looking. Maintenance is key and watch out for the Millennium cylinder AD's. I'd guess you could get a nice plane for 40K.
You asked about V35's.... If I were flying a lot of solo IFR, I would do it in my RV7. Just me tho.
Thanks for the comment!
You're welcome I was looking at older Bonanzas like P35 and Debonaires but values must have skyrocketed lately as they cost as much as V35 and F33 almost. Oh heck time to keep saving! Still better than owning a Ferrari or exotic car.
For what folks want nowadays for later V35B, one can buy a similar equipped F33 or A36 plane which would be far better than a V35 or S35.
True, an F33 or A36 will have a better re-sale. On the performance side, the V35B is a rocket!
I am leaning toward F33/A36 because I like the extra cargo space of A36 and F33 does not have CG issue of V35B and newer airframe for same price point.
Me and my grandpa almost yesterday because of a v-tail flutter that ripped a skin panel of the plane
Yikes! That doesn't should good! Glad you're on the ground and safe! Thanks for watching!
they dont call them doctor killers for nothing
Sound very annoying. Good video
Loop it
Hi I own F-35 bonanza for over 30 years and at one time it was considered a doctor killer
The reason why at the time the avionics was wasn't very good and what happens is some pilots would get to their destination airport put the plane into a dive and then pull up and overstress the wings and the tail will come off and that's where he got the nickname the doctor killer is most doctors can Afford this airplane back in the day
In the mid-80s the Bonanza Society told Beechcraft to test their aircraft or the will sue on behalf of the owners. Beechcraft to test their all models of aircraft and And found there there was several problems with different models of planes.
My bonanza of the F 35 have the was the worst one of all in the Beechcraft company actually one in and fixed all the bonanzas back in the mid-80s and they did it for no charge the added a cough as stiffener and heavier cables to make sure that the tail when I come off on the earlier bonanzas
the issue was after the C model the chord of the stabilizers was increased about 16 inches ahead of the original spar and attach points ..the stab would fail with the leading edge either up or down then followed by the main wings...Beechs fix was the leading edge "cuff" to give a larger margin of safety before failure
When considering issues for my first buy 28 years ago,safety factors were top on my list, then speed and fuel economy. also a purchase price under 60k. I inherited my dad's 1966 s35. sold it and bought a Mooney M20C. Changed to a 3 blade prop for quieter ride, take off performance and decreased chance of shock cooling. The advertisement for this model showed people shoulder to shoulder standing on the wing from hull to wing tip. it also claimed to be used to take hurricane data. Lower stall speed and engine out glide performance was great. now I have an Acro Duster one and an Aztec C with timed out engines. With the same 60k to spend, what do you guys think in comparison of the Mooney, Bonanza or Aztec. Most hours are Chicago to New Orleans. Safety first then speed and economy. Chicago to New Orleans in the morning and back to Chicago after midnight.
Baby Beech pilot here, Musketeer and Sport. Beech makes a solid plane, thanks for your info on the Bonanza good video.
Hey Gerace! love the Musketeer and the Sport. Fun airplanes!!!! Thanks for watching!
Jim
Upgrading from a musketeer to a bonanza as soon as I find the right one. Beechcraft makes a great product.