What are those SPINNING things in the cockpit?!

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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    If you have been watching ANY cockpit video from the Boeing 737 you would have noticed those constantly spinning little wheels on the side of the pilot. What are they and why are they spinning so much? In todays episode I will explain the Stabilizer trim system on the Boeing 737 and, as always, I would love to hear if you have any additional questions or suggestions in the comments below.
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  • @mitchelrivers369
    @mitchelrivers369 3 роки тому +572

    Literally only one person in the world could talk about trim stabilizers for 21min and keep me engaged. Hats off to you, sir!

    • @martinneumann7783
      @martinneumann7783 2 роки тому +12

      I do agree. 100%. 21 min.

    • @freibert
      @freibert 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed, am not even close to being a pilot :) //

    • @jamisbillson4872
      @jamisbillson4872 2 роки тому +2

      As a fan of Luton Town, a football club with an airport close by (London/Luton) I think I should add…we Luton fans are called the Hatters. Cos we made hats in the old days. Who Wants to be a Millinar was first played on television in 1786. Chris Tarrants great great great grandfather hosted it. The prizes also included TB, VD, other letters and malaria. Answer 10 questions and avoid the death penalty and the diseases from those days a d you could have won a hat.

    • @der.Schtefan
      @der.Schtefan 2 роки тому +4

      Indeed. I have binge watched his whole channel back to 3 years within 3 weeks 😀

    • @MultiClittle
      @MultiClittle 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamisbillson4872 lol

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 3 роки тому +187

    While working as a flying engineer (A&P) sitting in the jump seat on a B737 I was amazed at just how much the flight attendant walking up n down the isle made the elevator trim wheel spin back n forth, even on larger aircraft like the B767 the drinks cart going up n down the isle makes a big difference to the trim.

    • @iwatchwithnoads7480
      @iwatchwithnoads7480 3 роки тому +10

      What about someone jumping up and down?

    • @johno9507
      @johno9507 3 роки тому +26

      @@iwatchwithnoads7480
      It depends on how heavy the person is and where abouts in the aircraft they are.
      If they are near the aircraft centre of gravity over the wing, then no.
      But if they are right down the back or right up the front then it probably would effect it very slightly, but you wouldn't be able to feel it.
      The aircraft autopilot is very sensitive and can make tiny adjustments to keep the aircraft level.

    • @ElectricityTaster
      @ElectricityTaster 2 роки тому +37

      you should see the difference when I flush.

    • @xTheUnderscorex
      @xTheUnderscorex 2 роки тому +13

      @@iwatchwithnoads7480 Someone jumping up and down has the same weight on average as someone doing nothing. Unless the autopilot is reacting within the

    • @klam77
      @klam77 2 роки тому

      @@ElectricityTaster nasty!

  • @bretwalton6535
    @bretwalton6535 3 роки тому +155

    When I first saw this video was 21 minutes long. I thought you were going to talk about a bunch of nonsense for 15 minutes. Before giving a simple explanation of what the spinning things were for. Instead everyone and I got an in depth lesson on what they are, what they do and how they work. From the start of the video until the end. Very informative and explained very well. I watch too much Simon W. You and Kelsey (74Gear) are the best.

    • @1Cosmo12
      @1Cosmo12 3 роки тому

      In

    • @joffreyverbeeck1640
      @joffreyverbeeck1640 2 роки тому +6

      If he keeps making videos like this about aircraft systems, I think even as a line training captain he'll someday be out of a job...
      "So, where did you learn your way around a cockpit?"
      "Mentour Pilot..."
      "Ah, yes. Great content on his channel. You're hired. You're starting next monday. Would you like to be first officer or captain?"
      On a serious note though, this knowledge could possibly save lives in a case both pilots get incapacitated. Someone who's got some basic knowledge about the cockpit, where everything is, and how the plane should behave, could in such case possibly get her on the ground with less damage and injuries than if you just let her do her own thing.

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 2 роки тому +5

      @@joffreyverbeeck1640 It’s a nice idea but if both pilots get incapacitated then everyone on board is doomed. Even if there were someone on board who either is a pilot or knows enough to call ATC to get them to get someone to teach them how to program the autopilot to land, the sad truth is that it wouldn’t matter.
      Because thanks to the events of 9/11 it’s incredibly difficult to even get into the cockpit because the doors have been reinforced and are always locked. I’m honestly unaware of the exact security precautions involved in cockpit door but I don’t think any normal person could gain access even in such an emergency like that.

    • @jadenzeilinger8244
      @jadenzeilinger8244 2 роки тому +3

      Agreed! Him and Kelsey are on top

    • @uffa00001
      @uffa00001 2 роки тому +3

      @@mikoto7693 In one of the videos on UA-cam it is mentioned that It's an open secret that there often is one person in the flight personnel who has the number combination to enter the cockpit. This was introduced after the tragedy of the Germanwings flight, if memory serves. A group of terrorists would have some problems in torturing one by one the flight crew members in order to extract from them the combination to gain access to the cockpit.

  • @EUK007
    @EUK007 3 роки тому +117

    I'm not a pilot student nor involve in the aviation industry but im learning a lot everytime i watched your video. Thank you very much Captain! 👍

    • @EUK007
      @EUK007 3 роки тому +2

      @@seanthompson258 oh another dumb Flat Earthers here... 😁😂🤣

    • @brysonfitzgerald5238
      @brysonfitzgerald5238 3 роки тому

      @@seanthompson258 oh no, Sean.

    • @adamg4962
      @adamg4962 3 роки тому +3

      Same here, a few more weeks ill be ready for the course!

    • @tvenergyproductions1
      @tvenergyproductions1 3 роки тому

      @@seanthompson258 How would you explain the degree adjustments pilots have to make for the curvature of the earth and the time of day, year etc?

    • @MultiClittle
      @MultiClittle 2 роки тому

      @@tvenergyproductions1 the original reply is gone, was he a flat earther or something?

  • @Coachman38
    @Coachman38 2 роки тому +51

    This answers my question about those 2 wheels, I was always curious about there operation.

  • @cpanw
    @cpanw 3 роки тому +188

    finally I know what those wheel things do!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  3 роки тому +58

      Excellent! That was what I was after 😂

    • @cesarnc2008
      @cesarnc2008 3 роки тому +7

      Same here 😂😂😂

    • @TheSackese
      @TheSackese 3 роки тому +10

      @@MentourPilot You mean they aren't the manual starter for the engine? :p

    • @jameskoralewski1006
      @jameskoralewski1006 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheSackese No, they are the kick starter for the engines!

    • @paultarwireyi2405
      @paultarwireyi2405 3 роки тому +1

      Hi Mentour thank you for your videos im watching this one probably 3rd time and it got me thinking from investigations of lion air and ethiopian air 737 max did the pilots try or have enough time to try and use the manual elevator trim to avoid the fatal pitch down?

  • @joelmacdonald6994
    @joelmacdonald6994 3 роки тому +25

    It always blows my mind how many redundancies are built into aircraft. I get why it is, and I am so thankful it is, but you guys work work with so many safeties built in. It’s really cool. No human is perfect and I know at the end of the day, if you keep you alive, you keep us alive. Much respect.

  • @andrewdavidson7656
    @andrewdavidson7656 3 роки тому +175

    Alaskan airline flight 261 would be a perfect example of catastrophic failure in the horizontal stabilizer. For those who aren’t familiar with that incident, it was a MD-83 that went down off the California coast in 2000. It was determined that the airline delayed maintenance on the jackscrew in an attempt to save money, but they delayed too long. The jackscrew ran out of grease resulting in the threads to stripping out. This eventually caused the plane to go into an unrecoverable dive and loss of aircraft with all hands.

    • @chunkyazian
      @chunkyazian 3 роки тому +53

      There were 2 factors that contributed to this. When the screw ran out of grease and it was stuck, the pilots used 2 motors instead of one in an attempt to turn it. That was too much for the damaged thread to handle. But the scariest part of this was the M-D engineering. After the thread stripped and the stabilzer hit its down limit, the pilots managed to level off at around 19,000. That was until the down limit nut failed and the stablizer went past the down limit. Had M-D designed it to be fail safe, had there been a bigger nut at the down limit, the pilots might have made it as LAX was in sight

    • @andrewdavidson7656
      @andrewdavidson7656 3 роки тому +42

      @@chunkyazian There's no denying that there should have been a fail safe and that the pilots using two motors in an attempt to force the jackscrew ultimately caused it to fail completely. The root cause was the airlines negligence in properly maintaining the jackscrew which resulted it premature wear allowing the failure to occur.

    • @CorgiDaddy2
      @CorgiDaddy2 3 роки тому +9

      I worked with one of the victims.

    • @CorgiDaddy2
      @CorgiDaddy2 3 роки тому +12

      @Jim Mork I can't even imagine the terror that everyone on that plane went thru when it inverted.

    • @MrRexquando
      @MrRexquando 3 роки тому +11

      Like @Felix C it was multiple factors. If the screw jack on the 737 fails the Hstab can't travel past the limits like the DC9/MD8x could. Additionally inspection is easy as the jack is in the tailcone not inside the tail. The design is very different as the arm will get trapped between bottom gimbal the safety nut which unlike the DC9 is huge. Finally the pilots sadly did the unthinkable after 2nd or 3rd event. They tried to use the trim again (like normal). If they would have left it and limped back to LA they would have survived.

  • @philscott7949
    @philscott7949 3 роки тому +41

    Ahh, the good ol' fire gloves. There was a giant hangar with a row of lights out because one light was tripping the circuit breaker. The apprentice complained he had no way of knowing which light was faulty without inspecting each one. The head electrician puts on a fire glove and holds down the circuit breaker until one light explodes - "that's the one!". 🤣

    • @SYNtemp
      @SYNtemp 3 роки тому +11

      Oh yes, for doing that, you HAVE to know your wiring very very good, otherwise it is perfectly possible that some other part of the wiring goes off before the faulty light... in which case you have not found the faulty light but the weakest wire...
      There is quite some margin between the cb's tripping and wire failing, but it is not impossible. And that's the reason we should never test it, even don't suggest doing something like that, bcse people who have NOT enough knowledge (about the circuit, and/or generally) get the impression they could or even should try that too (and get fcked while doing so).
      Besides, i know a whole line of circuit breakers where holding the lever up would not stop it from tripping...

    • @philscott7949
      @philscott7949 3 роки тому +5

      @@SYNtemp I'm reasonably sure in this situation the wiring was extra heavy duty, metal cased etc. The location was a steel processing factory.

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell 3 роки тому +9

      I work in an aerospace factory and I would never think of doing something that insane.

    • @232K7
      @232K7 2 роки тому +5

      @@JoshuaTootell my first thought is how would you explain that to your boss if something went wrong lol

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus 2 роки тому +2

      @@SYNtemp Very good point. It takes a very knowledgable expert to do dumb shit safely.

  • @simev500
    @simev500 3 роки тому +12

    The term "trims" in all airflow-able crafts are so similar in functionality. The trimming of the sails comes to mind. Nice presentation.

  • @gauravkapoor3600
    @gauravkapoor3600 3 роки тому +24

    Excellent articulation. Probably, the best in aviation. Love the quality of your videos.

  • @michaelrmurphy2734
    @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +18

    FINALLY!!!!! I see those spinning wheel things and have always wondered what they were. Now I know!

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 роки тому +2

      Hey Mr Mentour. I live in Nova Scotia where Swissair 111 crashed into Saint Margarets bay. My mom's family have a cottage there. In fact I went to the event for the victims at the Halifax Citadel. Have you done a video about that?

  • @scottmarinello3797
    @scottmarinello3797 3 роки тому +7

    I've heard you mention "trim" in lots of other videos, but I never really understood what it was. Thanks for explaining it so well.

  • @Maik_Budweg
    @Maik_Budweg 3 роки тому +11

    3 years ago and it was my 2nd lesson in a B 737 full flight simulator from Lufthansa Flight Training in Berlin. At some point my flight instructor asked why I was trimming so often. I told him because I like the sound of it so much. Have a nice Christmas Time too. 😃🎄🎁

  • @emmcee476
    @emmcee476 Рік тому +5

    Since starting to watch this channel, I have realized just how heavy and extensive a pilot's workload is. You guys are responsible for even more things I had no idea about. Crazy 👍

  • @dominicMcAfee
    @dominicMcAfee 3 роки тому +25

    This one is in my top 3. I learned a lot here Petter. Thanks for the content!

  • @roblachman8919
    @roblachman8919 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks. Always love your reports. My 22yr old granddaughter has just passed her PPL at flight school at Bankstown Airport in Sydney. She is now doing CPL so I have added interest in all things aviation. Many thanks 🇦🇺👍

  • @micahratliff3267
    @micahratliff3267 2 роки тому +3

    I can't adequately express how mch I enjoy your content @Mentour Pilot! I stumbled onto one of your videos while scrolling on Facebook and I was instantly hooked by your in-depth analysis of the flight investigations. This had a huge imact on me, not only because it completely changed the light that I see airline pilots in, but it also made me realize just how much I am interested in aviation. Your videos have helped me realize something I'm passionate about and I eventually hope to recieve my type rating!!!! Much love and even safer travels!!!

  • @wrk101
    @wrk101 3 роки тому +60

    You should’ve worn your “This is how I Trim” t-shirt. Great video!

  • @dennisalexanderreilly8624
    @dennisalexanderreilly8624 3 роки тому +5

    You put it all together for me, thank you. I know what ship stabilizers do, but did not know that wing stabilizers actually work in a similar way. So happy to finally understand this!

  • @rogerhargreaves2272
    @rogerhargreaves2272 3 роки тому +5

    A brilliant explanation. I always knew about the trim, but only the essentials, not the details. Thank again for taking your time to explain the physics of the trim and issues that can arise. I know it’s important to keep the trim Jack greased as well.

  • @elyana_
    @elyana_ 2 роки тому +2

    I had exactly this question after watching another Mentour video!
    Thank you for helping me to learn so much about what pilots do.

  • @srinitaaigaura
    @srinitaaigaura Рік тому +5

    This video is just brilliant. It also explained why the pilots might have not known how to deal with the 737 Max MCAS issues.

  • @WayneM1961
    @WayneM1961 3 роки тому +3

    Hi Captain Petter, this fits in nicely with the video you did about the trim problems encountered by the two crashed 737 max's

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 2 роки тому

      Oh, that explains why “runaway trim” sounded so familiar. I must have heard it from a 737 max documentary.

  • @Ssumwun
    @Ssumwun 3 роки тому +3

    Hey Mentour, i just wanted to let you know I really love your videos and I think you are an amazing person!!
    All the best!!!

  • @JHamilton791
    @JHamilton791 3 роки тому +4

    I knew the answer before you stated it, having never flown a plane or used a simulator, because you're a great teacher.

  • @Corsairforu
    @Corsairforu 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this and the part about center of gravity and lift. I never knew the pitch needed trimmed so frequently, also I remember seeing the small adjustment knob types in WWII fighters

  • @TerminusAvid
    @TerminusAvid 3 роки тому +1

    I am way behind on Mentour Pilot, just found this channel a few weeks ago and love it! I am not a pilot but as a mechanical engineer I've always been very curious about airplanes. Despite having a good understanding of aerodynamics I've learned a ton and the best part is my fear of flying has improved! Thank you so much!

  • @SwedishVFR
    @SwedishVFR 3 роки тому +11

    Love these videos! Good to be reminded of the stuff we already know. It’s also amazing that the small plane we fly has so many similarities with the big machines you fly, even if our machine is more primitive.

    • @joebrown1382
      @joebrown1382 3 роки тому +1

      I must be the only one that didn't know. How stupid of me.

    • @SwedishVFR
      @SwedishVFR 3 роки тому +1

      @@joebrown1382 now you know too! That’s what’s so great about these videos!

  • @buddyloyal8420
    @buddyloyal8420 Місяць тому +1

    Kudos My Friend,
    A presentation of excellence as always.
    Your efforts are very much appreciated in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, USA.

  • @George-jg9sy
    @George-jg9sy 3 роки тому +288

    They are levers for chemtrail dispersion obviously. Everybody knows that.
    :) :) :) 😂😂😂

  • @tmshoe
    @tmshoe 3 роки тому +1

    That was a much more thorough explanation on trimming the horizontal stabilizer, than the earlier video. Well done.

  • @Docstantinople
    @Docstantinople 3 роки тому +24

    It’s like putting an empty container on a scale and zeroing the scale so it only weighs what you put in the container.

  • @mentalizatelo
    @mentalizatelo 3 роки тому +2

    I always asked myself about those moving "disks"; thank you, very helpful information!

  • @Exposingscammers
    @Exposingscammers 3 роки тому +11

    I remember asking a pilot what those wheels were as I didn't know. He explained it to me (about a year ago).

  • @sloanemactire8780
    @sloanemactire8780 3 роки тому +2

    Went into the video knowing that they're the trim wheels for adjusting the pitch trim, wondering how that was going to be a 20 minute video. Got WAY more information than I expected, including the mechanisms involved. Wow... awesome job!

  • @davidkillens8143
    @davidkillens8143 3 роки тому +6

    I was in a DeHavilland Buffalo that was on a return flight From Anchorage, destination Comox. It had a manual unassisted elevator trim wheel in this aircraft with no autopilot. There were a dozen crew in the back and after a few hours of boredom, everyone quietly moved as far aft as possible, and we watched the pilot compensating automatically as his hand hung down casually, just moving the wheel. We all moved forward, and we giggled as we watched him moving the wheel. After three or four times, his head came up as he realized what was going on. He looked back at us, and pushed the stick hard forward, we all got thrown to the floor, and as he pulled hard back, we all flew up into the ceiling, then all falling down. Everyone had a giggle, but we all learned not to mess with the pilot.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 2 роки тому +2

      I had a flight instructor on a Cessna 150 who didn't show for some reason. He was replaced with another who happened to also be a fighter pilot. He decided to demonstrate rolls and dives. A good thing I don't eat prior to flying. I stopped him reminding him we were a bit low on oil. I could imsgine doing a roll and starving the engine of fuel and it cutting off midair. It happened once before, no acrobatics.I guess he was showing off but the next time i rode with a hotdog was in a car going to another airport in St. Louis.teaming rain, night. Doing 85mph. I prayed & got there in one piece.

    • @davidkillens8143
      @davidkillens8143 2 роки тому

      @@sharoncassell9358 We used to call fighter pilots "Kerosene Cowboys". But to be a successful fighter pilot you have to have that wild aggressive streak in you. If not, go fly transports.

  • @malcolmprice3654
    @malcolmprice3654 3 роки тому +1

    My lovely daughter in law flies 737s. I had no idea she needed to be so strong! Love the videos. Thank you.

  • @Slyze33
    @Slyze33 3 роки тому +13

    (19:36) "... if the trim keeps spining, that means you're flying a B737 max" ^^

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 3 роки тому

      "What are those SPINNING things in the cockpit?!" - they are the wheels of doom.

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland 3 роки тому +191

    I thought they were emergency power generators with hamsters inside.

    • @tuskiii
      @tuskiii 3 роки тому +7

      😂😂

    • @henkbarnard1553
      @henkbarnard1553 3 роки тому +2

      No! they are not, they are emergency power generators with kittens inside.

    • @andreaskavak2364
      @andreaskavak2364 3 роки тому +2

      @@henkbarnard1553 mini horses

    • @henkbarnard1553
      @henkbarnard1553 3 роки тому +6

      @@andreaskavak2364 Neigh can't be that.

    • @XB10001
      @XB10001 3 роки тому +4

      The Max 8 did, the trim had a mind of its own.

  • @carolynejayne121
    @carolynejayne121 2 роки тому +1

    I absolutely love all your videos! i’m not a pilot or training to be one but i find you an your videos fascinating! i’m also learning a lot about your subject.. i hope you don’t find it rather strange but i find your talking and chatter so relaxing your videos have now become my bedtime stories. Thanks lots Captain Petter 😍✈️

  • @ssgsol
    @ssgsol 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome vid! I have long wondered, but been to shy to ask! I feel I understand so much more now. I have long wondered about the MCAS failure on MAX, and now get much more how integral the jack screw stabilizer movement is to flying the plane. I need to AMP up my home sim and try to learn more. (Trim input on my hangglider is all manual :-) )

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 2 роки тому

      I did wonder what they were there for during the “could a passenger be talked through landing a 747” video. In honesty in that scenario even in a flight simulator I’d be so tense and anxious that when they first span around in my presence I wouldn’t have been expecting it and almost jumped out of my skin.
      That being said, I’m surprised that my guess on their function wasn’t actually that far off as I figured they probably were some kind of manual control just in case the computer took inspiration from my PC at home and just stopped working for no apparent reason. Which, given my closest experience to piloting is when I stole a fighter jet in one of the Grand Theft Auto games, wasn’t a bad guess.

  • @noahkleugh9323
    @noahkleugh9323 Місяць тому

    Thanks for bringing back my fond memories of working in a USAF undergraduate Pilot Training school.

  • @Zeck88522
    @Zeck88522 3 роки тому +8

    I remember in Spartan College (aviation school) Instructor told us a story in class, of a prank they did to the pilot. They had a crew in back of the plane move back and forth from back of the plane to the front. Pilot was like wft is going on!!! I have to change pitch/trim all the time.

    • @jfbeam
      @jfbeam 2 роки тому +1

      they do that on subs, too.

  • @marshie1337
    @marshie1337 3 роки тому +2

    love the vid! do you think you could ever do a video on the fmc and how you get the numbers when doing your flight plan calculations, or maybe the basics of how to calculate rate of descent when coming in for a landing, etc. you explain stuff very clearly, your tone keeps people engaged. i think youd be a great teacher of this! thanks mentour!

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 2 роки тому

      Actually mentor pilot Petter is a flight instructor. He trains cadets.

  • @atticstattic
    @atticstattic 3 роки тому +33

    "If you know a little about physics...."
    Yes - I am _that_ dangerous!

    • @Biggles2498
      @Biggles2498 3 роки тому

      atticstattic : you need AT LEAST "A" Level Physics to become an Airline Pilot Sir or Madam !

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 3 роки тому +1

      @@Biggles2498: Why is the "a" in quotes? Is it not _actually_ one level? And why is every word a brand to you?

    • @Biggles2498
      @Biggles2498 3 роки тому +1

      @@HelloKittyFanMan. For the benefit of the uneducated "A" stands for "Advanced" ie Advanced Level Physics like done in the 6th Form at School.

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 3 роки тому +1

      @@Biggles2498: Oh! Yeah, OK, that makes sense! Haha, duhhh (on me)!
      I asked because so many dimwits try to use quotes for stuff they weren't intended for, like emphasis. Speaking of using things for the unintended, why go out of your way to hit "shift" before every word?

    • @Biggles2498
      @Biggles2498 3 роки тому

      @@HelloKittyFanMan. Well I had to hit the Landing Gear Lever every time I intended to land my aircraft ....it would have been expensive and dangerous not to do so.

  • @Lyran_princess
    @Lyran_princess Рік тому

    Excellent explanation. I am a flight dispatcher. I never really understood stab trim other than it being a number we work out on the trim chart, but now it makes sense.

  • @debiandebianowski2033
    @debiandebianowski2033 3 роки тому +3

    The pillows at Your sofa are also very OK. The red one on the left hand the green on the right;)

  • @EricMuller
    @EricMuller 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this video. A long time ago I was curious what they were and after a bit of googling figured out out. The discussion of the various kinds of failures and remedies was fascinating though.

  • @josvanhertrooij5972
    @josvanhertrooij5972 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for your explanation of the question I asked some time ago
    Regards Jos van Hertrooij

  • @erich930
    @erich930 Рік тому

    You are probably the only person on the whole internet who can make a 21 minute video about the 737 trim system and have the entire thing be interesting!

  • @meritwolf219
    @meritwolf219 3 роки тому +9

    A lovely video, as always. Is this in response to the Max entering service again? Or are you at liberty to explain why you are revisiting this subject? (Not that you really need much reason. The trim system is surprisingly fascinating.)

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  3 роки тому +2

      No, it has nothing to do with the MAX

    • @resortsman
      @resortsman 3 роки тому +2

      It is a weird video. There is obviously no mention about Max as if the pilots were not allowed to talk about it anymore. It sounds and looks like some Boeing promo video. The airlines using them are probably counting on that people will not be asking about the aircraft type after lockdowns are finally lifted being happy to be able to fly somewhere at all. But I think that the whole era of cheap flying in cramped economy class represented by obsolete 737 is over. People will be willing to pay more for their safety and comfort and the bet on Max entering the service again as if there was no pandemic is wrong.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 3 роки тому +1

      @@resortsman what is with the amount of dumb conspiracies under this video

  • @danniballecter7936
    @danniballecter7936 2 роки тому +1

    Glad I watched this video. I've been watching a lot of aviation videos (on this channel and others) and kept hearing the term "trim" but didn't understand what it was or what it did. I had a basic understanding of elevators, rutter, etc...but just not the trim. Thank you for such a clear (and detailed) explanation!

  • @jumbodj
    @jumbodj 3 роки тому +5

    You mentioned quite a few times about the spinning things getting jammed and how to manually turn them but how often does that happen? Have you personally ever encountered that situation and wondering whether at that moment of urgency (noticing the failure) is it really possible to focus on manually turning them?

  • @MrAgrimkohli
    @MrAgrimkohli 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the very informative n intresting vdo. Due to Covid my air travel has completely stopped. But still curious about planes I started watching vdo's about planes and got attracted to air crash investigation's, but didn't knew the technical details. This video cleared me about trimming the aircraft. subscribed!

  • @commerce-usa
    @commerce-usa 3 роки тому +6

    So those switches on the wheel aren't volume up and volume down. 😀
    Nice explanation and another great video. Thank you.

  • @RyszardMua
    @RyszardMua 3 місяці тому

    Super film 👍👍🙂🙂
    I finally know what those turning wheels in the airplane cabin are for. I've always been curious what purpose they were placed there for. Thank you very much for a good technical lecture.
    Greetings from Poland

  • @captaincurle4529
    @captaincurle4529 3 роки тому +4

    After watching your channel, I know more about the 737 than the cessna 152 that I actually fly, and I feel like I pretty much have a 737 type rating 😂 Keep up the great work 😃 👍

  • @purplealice
    @purplealice 3 роки тому +1

    Clear skies and happy landings, and happy holidays - whichever one you celebrate.

  • @P991TS
    @P991TS 3 роки тому +71

    Haven’t you done a video about this already!?🤷🏻‍♂️☺️

    • @P991TS
      @P991TS 3 роки тому +2

      @Tyler Sinden ah, okey! It’s wasn’t any complaints tho, just a thought 😁

    • @TheGbelcher
      @TheGbelcher 3 роки тому +9

      @Tyler Sinden Wasn’t the other video specifically about the MCAS failure on the MAX?

    • @ryanguzek361
      @ryanguzek361 3 роки тому +5

      @@TheGbelcher 3 years ago he has a video titled "what is that spinning thing" not specifically about mcas

    • @TheGbelcher
      @TheGbelcher 3 роки тому +8

      @Jason Bowman The children that run UA-cam probably didn’t like it either.

    • @Lvlaple4Ever
      @Lvlaple4Ever 3 роки тому +2

      He’s milking us like cows 🤡🤡🤡

  • @viktoriaelisabeth467
    @viktoriaelisabeth467 3 роки тому

    great video Capt Petter...wish you and your family a Happy Merry Christmas

  • @beernpizzalover9035
    @beernpizzalover9035 3 роки тому +40

    11:00 Have you ever had the crank handle deploy inadvertently and strike you in the knee (or shin) while spinning? Just curious; I was looking at redesigning that a while back...

    • @fibboobbif
      @fibboobbif 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, i also wonder what happens in the airbus while trimming manually, where the cranks seem to be much closer to the legs if there are some.

    • @FerrariF108
      @FerrariF108 3 роки тому +6

      Sean Thompson maybe read a physics book one day 😉

    • @HexenkoeniginVonAngmar
      @HexenkoeniginVonAngmar 3 роки тому +5

      @@seanthompson258 Hello troll

  • @gilmarriner3011
    @gilmarriner3011 3 роки тому +2

    When I did my initial upgrade training in the 737 we were told that in order to stop a runaway trim just reach over and pull the FO‘s leg into it. Preferably with the handle extended.

  • @fredashay
    @fredashay 3 роки тому +10

    When I was a kid, I built and launched model rockets. I remember one of the primary rules of rocket physics was that the center of pressure must be behind the center of gravity. The farther apart these two points are, the more stable the rocket will fly. The fins move the center of pressure to the rear/bottom of the rocket. Adding mass/weight to the nose moves the center of gravity toward the front/top of the rocket.

    • @rogerhargreaves2272
      @rogerhargreaves2272 3 роки тому +2

      Great comment. 👍

    • @hassanalihusseini1717
      @hassanalihusseini1717 3 роки тому +1

      O, yes, did the same as a kid and even as a student. Long time ago, but good memories!

    • @Lucien86
      @Lucien86 3 роки тому +1

      You certainly learn the same thing the hard way playing Kerbal space program.

    • @fredashay
      @fredashay 3 роки тому

      @@Lucien86 Indeed! KSP is one of my favorite games!

  • @viswanaathv.s.220
    @viswanaathv.s.220 3 роки тому +1

    Wow !!! every time I climb up the stairs of an aircraft, especially on the back entrance, I wonder why there are markings like a measuring scale. Beautiful explanation. Thanks for making effort to make this video. Super !! keep the good work going.

  • @topofthegreen
    @topofthegreen 3 роки тому +153

    I feel like I’m getting a you tube type rating.

  • @shiraga0516
    @shiraga0516 3 роки тому +1

    This is exactly what I have been wondering lately while looking at your videos! Thanks!

  • @mumiemonstret
    @mumiemonstret 3 роки тому +19

    I always thought that they were some kind of angle grinder intended to prevent the pilots from falling asleep and letting their knee touch it...

    • @mumiemonstret
      @mumiemonstret 3 роки тому

      @@seanthompson258 "Plane site" 🤣😂You are hilarious!

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 3 роки тому

      @@seanthompson258 if the earth is a plane who flies it?

    • @TheKilman102
      @TheKilman102 3 роки тому

      @@seanthompson258 plane sight x) if the earth is flat how can a plane fly from usa to japan? Where is this edge? x)

  • @frogstamper
    @frogstamper 3 роки тому +2

    I'd have thought in the case of runaway trim instead of having to hold the wheel with your hand there could be say a small metal bar you could slide into the wheel to physically stop it moving. Of course, I've no idea how common a runaway trim situation is so it may not be financially feasible to build this into the trim-wheel mechanism.
    As always excellent video Petter and beautifully explained, I love these type of explanation videos you do.

  • @danuttall
    @danuttall 3 роки тому +8

    An accident with Alaska Airlines happened because of a vertical trim failure due to maintenance scheduling issues. The airplane had not been serviced properly and the jack-screw was not properly lubricated. It then got stripped and came out of the nut that connected it to the horizontal stabilizer and the pilots lost control of the pitch of the aircraft. Not a good thing.

    • @paul756uk2
      @paul756uk2 3 роки тому

      Exactly what I was thinking when watching this.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 3 роки тому

      and now I can't hear "jackscrew" without cringing

  • @alycatpublishing1164
    @alycatpublishing1164 2 роки тому +1

    Dang! I shoulda watched this one first! I'd think the trim in submarines is similar. Thank you. You explained this perfectly.

  • @MrSaemichlaus
    @MrSaemichlaus 3 роки тому +13

    "If you're not clacking, you're slacking."
    - 74 gear

  • @stephenblessed92
    @stephenblessed92 3 роки тому +2

    Almost twenty two minute video went by in a flash. Always interesting and informative content. Thank you.

  • @jimmeade2976
    @jimmeade2976 3 роки тому +8

    Petter, would you please explain/comment on Alaska 261 that lost control and crashed in the Pacific in Jan 2000 due to a failed stabilizer.

    • @tubby1
      @tubby1 3 роки тому +3

      How did you post this 58 minutes ago when the video was only posted 2 minutes ago??

    • @SwedishVFR
      @SwedishVFR 3 роки тому +5

      @@tubby1 we patreon’s get to se the video a little bit earlier!

    • @malloyneil40
      @malloyneil40 3 роки тому +6

      The nut broke because it had not been properly lubricated. In part this also happened because the flight crew went outside of SOP and tried to fix the stab trim by activating both trim motors at the same time.

    • @jimmeade2976
      @jimmeade2976 3 роки тому

      @@tubby1 I have a HOT Tub Time Machine ... works best in Winter

  • @srinitaaigaura
    @srinitaaigaura Рік тому

    In basic flying school, the trim is used to maintain airspeed. When the aircraft is properly trimmed, the thrust setting decides the aircraft climb or descent rate and the nose angle changes to maintain the same airspeed. So Pitch, power and trim.

  • @antoniomaglione4101
    @antoniomaglione4101 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for all the information!
    I almost feel like I can fly a 737!
    Regards from the UK...

  • @kevinthomas5364
    @kevinthomas5364 2 місяці тому

    Excellent explanation. Thank you Mentour.

  • @BertMackFilm
    @BertMackFilm 3 роки тому +6

    Love the videos! I chuckle every time you say stab - ilizer 🔪

  • @michaelseibold9977
    @michaelseibold9977 Місяць тому

    Way cool explanation! Anyone who has driven a motorboat understands the principle of trimtabs which trims the boat to keep it level.

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 3 роки тому +5

    I always wondered about the spinning wheels as well. Glad you explained this. I did not know the complete stabilizer moved as well. I thought it was just the elevator. Was a runaway jackscrew the reason for the Max crashes? Just asking.

    • @Dani-pl8cw
      @Dani-pl8cw 3 роки тому +3

      1 There is not the elevator, is the horizontal stabilizer, not the same.
      2 the max crashes happened beacause a software error in the Maneouvering Control Argumentation System.

    • @aarondynamics1311
      @aarondynamics1311 3 роки тому +2

      @@Dani-pl8cw MCAS works by moving the jackscrew so, technically, they were caused by a runaway stabilizer

    • @Dani-pl8cw
      @Dani-pl8cw 3 роки тому +1

      @@aarondynamics1311 yes, but is not a runaway because they work, but not in the right way

    • @Dani-pl8cw
      @Dani-pl8cw 3 роки тому

      @mentour pilot

    • @joebrown1382
      @joebrown1382 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dani-pl8cw I never said they were the same.

  • @pianoboylaker6560
    @pianoboylaker6560 Місяць тому

    Absolutely fascinating. What those pilots do is nothing short of remarkable.

  • @comptegoogle511
    @comptegoogle511 3 роки тому +2

    You also loose alot of finess from the horizontal stab when you need to use a big elevator angle. That's why the first way to fix the trim is to move fuel forward and backward to keep a neutral elevator angle. That's also why it's more efficient to keep the entire profile streamlined by pivoting the entire wing.

    • @speedbird9313
      @speedbird9313 3 роки тому

      You cant move fuel forward and backwards in a 737NG tho😉

    • @elyana_
      @elyana_ 2 роки тому

      lose

  • @johnjacob5839
    @johnjacob5839 3 роки тому +9

    Are those port & starboard running lights on the sofa?

  • @jonnytoast
    @jonnytoast 9 місяців тому

    Great information in this video. Explained clearly. Keep it up

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 3 роки тому +4

    I always thought they were fidget spinners for the pilots to play with when they get bored.
    Seriously though, trim is equally important for RC cars. When you've got a toy car going 60 miles an hour with less than half an inch of ground clearance, the car is capable of veering off-course and smashing into a curb (or someone's ankle -- or face, if the car catches the air and turns into a kite -- yes that can actually happen) before you even have time to realize something is going wrong. So you have to trim the steering accurately enough that you can punch the throttle and accelerate all the way to top speed with minimal steering input, or else the car will be too unstable to actually drive.

    • @oliwek70
      @oliwek70 3 роки тому

      In your RC car example, is it not rather like a deadzone setting, more than a trim ? (you make the deadzone bigger, so that little impulses on the stick are not registered, where a trim acts as a force, and moves the center of an axe in one direction, so that if you release your hand or thumb from the remote, it centers on a value different than the original untrimmed zero value, in your case the RC car would then have a tendency to turn, as a real car with bad wheels geometry). If it is a trim in the case of RC cars, is it because the small car has an issue of wheels geometry, or because of outside factors ? (such as wind, or the track geometry)

  • @Markenature
    @Markenature Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the great explanation....

  • @joeblow5154
    @joeblow5154 3 роки тому +10

    I wonder how much of a degree the stabilizer moves per rotation of the wheel.

  • @JTSAMPSON04
    @JTSAMPSON04 3 роки тому +1

    You did a great job!!! I suggest you do segments on the secondary systems such as the flaps, etc as well as other trim systems ( yaw & roll).

  • @DerbJd
    @DerbJd 3 роки тому +16

    "....... Seems as the 737MAX planes are coming back, I thought I'd discuss this......"
    - MP

    • @steinarnielsen8954
      @steinarnielsen8954 3 роки тому +6

      @Jim Mork If you prefer something more dangerous than the MAX or the amusement park, I can suggest driving a car.

    • @steinarnielsen8954
      @steinarnielsen8954 3 роки тому +1

      @Jim Mork There have been countless examples of cars crashing into mountains or plunging into water. Drowning is never a pleasant way to die. If a plane crashes into water usually people die quick and painless.

    • @xiro6
      @xiro6 3 роки тому

      @Jim Mork no intention to argue about that,but you can google for the toyota trhottlegate case.a bug in the code of some toyota models who make the car suddenly go full power.
      not a faulty sensor or similar,a real program bug that make the car go full throttle.

    • @xiro6
      @xiro6 3 роки тому

      @Jim Mork there was quality control staff who got fired because they found they were using substandard parts,making them fit by drill and hammer,specially the wing forks,those who later needed replacement and much more parts.there is no regulators actually,boeing certifies itself their own airplanes and the regulator just accept the incoming documentation,without test or verify nothing.thats why they are not more the standard for the rest of the world like before.there are documentarys here on YT,and they seem legit.
      The toyota case,it seems the code was a pretty nasty mess,plagued with patches over patches never cleaned.finally they accept to pay to the US goverment on the condition to not look further.
      dont know who is worse.

  • @pdgingras
    @pdgingras 3 роки тому

    As a student pilot (many, many years ago), I was also taught to use trim for take-off without yoke input. So if you're in your take-off roll and you lose yoke input, you can take-off using just trim and rudder input. After take-off, we flew for almost an hour without any input from the yoke.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  3 роки тому

      Cool.
      In the 737 we specifically teach our students to never trim during rotation as it has a delayed effect and can cause tail-strikes.

    • @pdgingras
      @pdgingras 3 роки тому +1

      The way the flight instructor explained it was the technique was only to be used in an emergency. For example, you're about to rotate and you lose control of the yoke. In a Cessna 172 that would consist of a cable breaking. Now you have a choice. Do I abort? Or continue to fly and come around and attempt a landing. Well, it depends on how much runway you have left. I did some flying at Burke Lakefront in Cleveland, Ohio; the end of the runway was Lake Erie. No need to go for a swim.

  • @JeremyEllwood
    @JeremyEllwood 3 роки тому +10

    I'm just hitting every video in my recommended using "Open in New Tab" to wish everyone a happy and safe end to 2020! Love all of you (even if I've argued with you). Be safe, be well, know you're loved, let's work our asses off to make 2021 a little less... grim. No matter your deity (if any), we are humans... let's stop acting like it and actually come together for a better world.

    • @rex69832
      @rex69832 3 роки тому

      The same to you, Jeremy. Let's see if we can make 2021 better. Since 1200 BC we've had more than 250 epidemics and we're still here. This latest virus won't take us out either. It WILL take out the elderly and those with a compromised immune system.

  • @gregvinson1
    @gregvinson1 3 роки тому +1

    What a great explanation. You might be able to teach me to fly, and trust me, that would be a truly epic feat. Keep videos about flight controls coming. They are simply awesome.

    • @ryjelsum
      @ryjelsum 3 роки тому

      He literally has a "how to land an aircraft as a passenger" video :P

    • @gregvinson1
      @gregvinson1 3 роки тому +1

      @@ryjelsum Well, I am halfway there.

  • @StuffBudDuz
    @StuffBudDuz 3 роки тому +21

    I don't know what the spinny things are, but if I hear my pilot refer to them as "spinny things" I get really nervous.

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 2 роки тому

      Lol, imagine the “could a passenger be talked through landing a 747” scenario and when those spinney things first moved, them managing to freak the poor unsuspecting bastard out. I could take a pilot dumbing things down to my level.

  • @proprotornut5389
    @proprotornut5389 3 роки тому

    Great video. Always good to learn something new. Thanks. Have a great festive season. ✈️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @vincentwesolowski459
    @vincentwesolowski459 3 роки тому +3

    Your graphics are getting better and better and better! Where are the pups I haven’t seen them for a while? Whew! Put a 2x4 in your gear bag.

  • @GeoRedtick
    @GeoRedtick Місяць тому

    Great video and explanation. I nothing about flying and still found this interesting and easily digestible.

  • @obstinatejack
    @obstinatejack 3 роки тому +10

    this sounds complicated and arcane, and i now realize how much of a novelty fly-by-wire systems can be

  • @craigbowman1469
    @craigbowman1469 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation of how trim stabilizers work. It would be good to relate the 737Max crashes to the failure of the automatic trim stabilizer controls. Flying a light GA aircraft, like a Cessna 172, is great way to learn about trim.

  • @ORIGINALwhatnow
    @ORIGINALwhatnow 3 роки тому +11

    He said "with me so far"
    Me: still here but not understanding anything 😂🤣

  • @petersplat6164
    @petersplat6164 2 місяці тому

    I worked for an airline that used to build their own B727 cockpit procedures simulators. The simulators had no motion as it was only for familiarizing new pilots with cockpit procedures and switch locations. The guys who made the simulators used cake pans painted black with white stripes for the pitch trim wheels. As a result all the pilots and mechanics called them pie pans.