Galaxy Z Fold5 Teardown: Still No Dust Proofing
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- The foldable phone craze is kicking into high gear. Hot on the heels of the Pixel Fold, Samsung’s Galaxy Z Fold5 enters the fray as the most anticipated foldable smartphone of 2023. But the question remains, will it survive our teardown?
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Chapters
00:00 From the Pixel Fold to the Galaxy Z Fold5 and Z Flip5
00:11 Z Fold5 X-Ray Images
00:21 Dust Ingress Test of the Galaxy Z Fold5 and UV Light Inspection
00:58 Applying Heat and Removing the Z Fold5 Back Cover
01:20 Applying Heat and Removing the Z Fold5 Outer AMOLED Screen
01:35 UV Light Test for Dust Ingress in the Z Fold5
01:45 The First Half - From Daughterboard to Battery One
02:17 Removing the First of Two Batteries
02:24 The Second Half - From Wireless Charge Coils to Battery Two
03:23 Dismantling the Main Camera Assembly
03:32 The Z Fold5 Charging Assembly and Soldered On USB-C Port
03:39 Removing Battery Number Two on the Z Fold5
03:45 Side by Side - Comparing the Z Fold5’s Two Lithium Polymer Batteries
04:06 Removing the Inner Panel Trim on the Z Fold5
04:27 Heating and removing the Z Fold5’s Flexible Inner Display
04:52 Examining the Dust Damage on the Z Fold5’s Hinge Mechanism
05:08 Final Thoughts on the Z Fold 5
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The engineering behind these phones is absolutely mind-boggling, great work Samsung.
One note about the florescent dust that you used. I think it's much smaller than your average dust particle. That's why the phone was caked in it. I've been with my Z flip 3 to the beach and it's still fine.
Indeed, it's not for Mars dust, it's for earth dust and dirt.
Interestingly, it actually didn't affect the hinge mobility as you can see. It might over time, but not for a long time
@@Sheenifier If I were a engineer at samsung and my task was designing the hinge, I would put a tiny hole for cleaning out the dust. Water wouldn't get it because of surface tension..
interesting
@@Sheenifier the magnetic hinge is crazy good. But it destroys credit cards in minutes
you guys dismantled this phone very good - with no damage. You are really real pros
I'm still rocking my fold 3 2 years later and wouldn't trade it back for a standard phone even tho at the end of July my back came off and separated by itself and for several months would hear a loud crunching noise everytime i still open the fold, thankfully Samsung did a full free repair where tmobile dropped the ball also i have never dropped or have done any kind of deliberatel submerssion
ifixit - when you think about it , your dust is so thin it was normal to have it inside - but the fact it was still working like nothing happened is incredible
From the dust test, is it a big deal? Since it's IPX8, from the teardown, we see the dust is isolated to just the mechanical parts and it did not find its way into the electrical parts. Could you not just wash away the dust inside by submerging under water and working the foldable a few times?
I had this exact same thought and wish this had been tested in the video. In theory with my limited understanding it should be easy to wash out!
It is always so good to watch those videos.
Can you do this with a coarser dust, something a step below sand but a step above powder?
great product, very disappointing dust experiment though. Great job
Really appreciate your channel. 👍👍👍
good disassembly!
A great video on the risk of particles through the hinge. I am still hesitating to buy a fold type phone. Fantastic works. My sister put her flip phone into the laundry for 1 and half hours but her phone is still alive after drying. Unbelievable. Samsung phone is still strong.
did the inner screen still work after being removed?
Slaughtered the back camera w fingers lol
Can i use a small vacuum once in a while to remove the dust on the hidge of the z fold 5?
That hinge is seriously impressive.
Would you say Fold 5 will have less of an issue with bubbling / pixel bleed on the inner screen vs the previous gen? There are lots of issues with the screen protector bubbling up and caused the inner screen to go bad, and not sure if Fold 5 with some new damping will reduce or fix those issues?
wow this is note widely known. can you explain
Can you show a video of putting it back together?
Honest question, do you have capability to rebuild that again? It would be great if you make some videos of that
Good job
YOO that x-ray looked so dope! Is it possible to get? would be so cool as a background on my Fold 5. I checked their website without result :(
the illustrated marsian dust was a nice thing haha, i guess some air duster would fix a crackling hinge noise in the future.
Hello. Nice clip. Pls give me a hint how to clean de fold 5 hinge without opening. Have a small unpleasant sound while opening
I had the Z Fold 3 and after a year i lost wifi.. Samsung told me it might be the ribbons that was broken. Can you tell me if the designs were updated on the Z Fold 5 to prevent these ribbons breaking from happening?
Mate you got nothing to worry about, your fold 3 wifi failing is a one of pure bad luck. I've had my Fold 3 since launch and no problems at all. And if you google wifi failing it's unheard off problem for the Fold 3. You just got unlucky.
lots of love from India❤
Nobody cares about india
How does the Z Fold 4 stack up?
I wish you guys showed the hinge more.
Where is the reassembling?
Once again ifixit disappoints with the one thing they set out to do. Show in detail the teardown of a device. Oh heres the hinge and 2 seconds later its done. Stop rushing, i have to wait for Jerry rig everything.
1:08 Now you will need to give us a guitar teardown to prove it! 🎸 Would actually make for an interesting video, too. 🤓
Tebrikler 🎉
Why do you have prono background musics.
crazy thing is this is still more repair friendly than iphones
I never really got, what's the point of these phones?
Just replaced my battery and there is a tiny blue sticker that says “Hi Fixit” on the frame under it. I wish I could post a picture of it. Super weird.
Odd! It wasn't us :)
Great video. Seems like there is an awful lot of connectors
So my brand new Galaxy Z Fold 5 that I just purchased if anything, maybe 1 to 2 weeks ago, is heating up VERY HOTT (burning, not a normal warm) on the space on the right, right next to the triple (3) camera in the back of the phone when I run the Roblox App and start a game - literally starts heating up within a minute of game launch.
I see that from the teardown, there's a circuit board at the location. I thought the HOT would be coming from the battery running hot from game play, i was surprised there wasn't a battery there but instead a circuit board.
What could be the reason for this very hot, heating of the phone at said location? I was looking on Google to see if anyone had similar problems with their fold 5 and no one said anything much. I don't know if it's normal or if I've gotten a faulty device and should contact Samsung.
I do see that there is a half sized pull tab battery on the bottom of the said location, but it's not heating there, but ontop of it right next to the side of the triple camera.
** edit** I would say the hottest point where it's BURNING to the touch is more towards the middle of the phone, where if you look at the teardown back of the phone, the area would be the bottom portion of the circuit board. Food for thought, could it possibly be faulty connection? If anybody has a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5, please replicate the situation (download Roblox and play a game/shooting game like Frontline, the exact game I tested) and let me know if your device heats up as well to the point of burning to the touch as mine did. I want to know if I've got a defect. I thought maybe it's normal since I'm running an intensive application, but on second thought, warm would be waved as normal, BURNING HOT, i don't think that's normal.
No phone case. It's literally brand new, haven't bought one yet.
+ latest Software Update.
I have a z fold 5 and have no problems with it
The durability issue is a lot less issue when you insure the phone. I know that makes it cost more but realistically most people are financing anyways and if you can't afford or would rather buy out your phones then yea you might want to skip this for now.
I'd have F'd that up for sure.
Come on, show us the revised vapor chamber and cooling they mentioned
3:44 The silver, and looks like riveted side that you see now is the new vaper chamber. Many people don't recognize it, and that's changed from when the S22 series launched.
Looks like there is more than enough room for a s-pen!!!
Seems dust resistant to me, the internal parts did not get dust inside, only the hinge.
Hinge is the most susceptible part to breaking due to dust ingress. which is why Samsung does not give a dust resistance rating for foldable.
Anything with moving parts is hard to make dust resistant.
It's barely dust resistant since it can handle dirt and sand to an extent. In the video, this guy used fluorescent dust which is not going to be in your daily occurrence since dust particles come in all shapes n' sizes, not just 1 particular size nor material like shown in the video. Gotta wait to see Jerry Rig Videos for that. It's most likely gonna be the same outcome like the Fold 4 where it would work in spite of the dust on the device.
So that means z fold 5 is IP58 ???
Has anyone dropped their fold device and cracked the screen. I feel like its unheard of and therefore is the most durable phone.
I find your accent and diction very interesting. Can you tell me about what I'm hearing?
candy bar phone my good investment
I don't get how dust can pass in and water not 🧐
Вода тоже проникает, но это безопасно для устройства, так как петля и шлейф могут иметь безопасный контакт с водой
Great video. Ive had my fold 5 for five days .its developed screen failure already the middle and left screen go green and black when i open it. Still a beautiful phone gonna get it replaced. Hope it's a one off.
I had my fold 5 for a month now. Not a single issue. Still looks brand new.
Can't say I can still recommended as someone who have been getting all the Fold except 5 as my Fold4 inner screen breaks a couple days after that 1 year warranty ends, and finding out even if was in warranty you still have to pay some fees even though the defect is due to Samsung, never heard of RMA needing to pay some co-pay before.
Any products people had to pay while the product was considered still in warranty?
Back to the subject was quoted that the cost of repair out of warranty was $550 for inside screen repair for Fold2 and for Fold4 is $500. And even with out of warranty insurance Samsung Care+ or maybe some other seems just about the same for the Fold at least since for this type is premium tier where the insurance fee is already highest for coverage the deductible is also the hundreds so seems ends up in the same in the end if really total things up.
Remembering still how normal and matter of fact it was growing up 90s, repairing your own parts was expected as paid full price for the product, so to bring repairs normalizing like that with movements and laws passing on Right to Repair glad to see it passing through states. Truly wide to see 1K-2K phones to be something to be a one year one time use what a waste in so many ways.
Did you use chatGPT for your comment?
A lot of parts to this phone
Does “dust” mean sand at the beach or like daily dusty living rooms that haven’t been dusted in a month?
both
More like sand
I would have though that normal dust you get on a room would not cause concern as it is soft let’s face it you get dust like that in lots of moving part and they are fine. But hard tiny particles like sand could cause an issue.
ive had the fold 3 and 4 the there have been no problems with the hinge or dust causing problems. On my fold 3 the screen protector started bubbling at the 6 month mark, i didn't get it replaced, bc i didn't think it would cause the screen to die, but that's what eventually happened. The fold 4 has had no issues for me, and i just bought the fold 5.
@@robotbro7187 yeah same experience for me. The fold 3 screen protector bubbled relatively fast for me, but the fold 4's screen protector seems to stick to the screen much better.
I don't understand how resistant it is to submerge and it's not dust.
The water can’t get to the electronics and cause problems. Dust CAN get into the hinges and cause problems. Water can definitely get to the hinges as well but that doesn’t matter since water won’t cause the same problems dust and debris will.
The next time you do a dust test, you should have different colored dust representing different sized particles, to see at what point it could actually keep debris out.
in don't think dust proof will ever be possible
phone manufacturers, this may come as a shock, but it's very easy to put a phone in conditions where the glue just fucks off, use screws, metal panels and rubber gaskets, not glass, plastic and glue. also nintendo already had this down to an art for nearly 20 years, minus repairability, fuck those hinges, nightmare fuel.
also that seems like quite a serious discrepancy in the capacities of the batteries
But unibody phones are so retro, and there's no wireless charging, and the corporations cannot charge you overpriced out-of-warranty repair services for the back glass; how will they survive?!?!?
Motorola, with their first Razr had the hinge figured out: just two pins per side, no overengineered gears, cams, springs and whatnot; but the phone was the typical clamshell, not the tablet.
(The batteries are different physical sizes to maximize the internal space, that's why they aren't the same capacity)
@@lucaverdi618 the difference in the capacity of the two batteries seems too great for the physical size difference
Then Nintendo decided to go with the dodgy joycons 😂
@@darthraider450 you really can't win with any manufacturer
These phones give me a mini heart attack Everytime I open one
Folding phones are an interesting feat of engineering I guess, but who wanted this? Who was clamoring for these to be developed? Who looked at their smart phone and thought, "gosh, I really wish I could fold this in half!"?
People who get tired of having to pack a tablet or laptop to work, for me it's pretty nice getting my work done on my phone, fold it up and put it in my pocket...
Ugh, the sand in the hinge made me cringe more than I though I would
Never heard anyone pronounce the word "battery" as posh as this guy does. 😅
So refreshing to hear the letter z pronounced properly. Definitely worth a like.
The way he pronounced 'battery' and soft, fricative 't' sounds in words ending in one makes me think he is Irish. So that would make sense.
Ah sorry I don't speak wrong
Why would anyone want a foldable phone? What’s the appeal?
When was the last time you were able to fold a screen in half? It's "cool", it's there and people are willing to spend the money.
Dude my Motorola clamshell from so many years ago was cool. Slamming the phone shut to hang up was amazing.
Same reason you want a laptop in a sense. Laptops are worse than desktops but they can be brought with you easily. Some foldable are almost as good a normal phone most of the time and a good enough replacement for a tablet when you need one. They are not as good as tablets but a laptop is not as good as a desktop.
If you look at something like the Pixal fold most people who reviewed it mentioned using it like a normal phone 70+% of the time and opening it only for specific content or using two apps at once while working. It isn't for everyone but if the only downside becomes price many people will opt for a much larger screen in a compact form factor.
I think it’s amazing to be able to open it up and actually multi task something iPhone despite their power cannot do even in a basic way. Come on apple at least give as two apps at once.
I think the foldable phones will rise only when Apple will release one
Apple will sell it for minimum 5K, as for them it will be a ground breaking communist like revolutionary invention 😂
Wow, what garbage still! I can't believe they're in the 5th generation of these devices and still don't have a solution to the dust issue. I'd really love to relive my years of flip phones again, but absolutely none of these seem like they're usable beyond a week or two before the hinges are ruined from dust and debris. The only persons that can own these are those rich enough to buy a new phone every few weeks.
How often do you plan on dumping a bunch of dirt into your phone? I had the Flip 4 for a year and it was indistinguishable from the day I bought it even though I ditched the case as unnecessary for the last 3 months. I did have to have Samsung replace the screen protector after 9 months because it came loose at the crease, but that was a free repair.
@@robertvirnig638 None on purpose, but doesn't mean environmentally it won't acquire some (even pocket lint) as a not *if* but *when*. These become eventually degraded to unusable as prior example videos have shown since the first modern flips have begun again as a result. Until a solution presents itself, I don't plan on wasting some $1200 on a disposable phone with implied obsolescence.
Then again, I only with my last spent over ~$500 (for a used pixel 6 pro), anything more is for apple fanboys to fuel that elite madness.
Cool but i still think fold phone Is uselles you can buy tablet instead
How do you put a tablet in your pocket?
I love my iPad mini and it fits in many of my pockets.
Who cares what YOU think! 😊😊
Unless you use one, you can't say it's useless. I'm on year 2 with foldable phones, it's a game changer.
@@warshortsfactsyour galaxy fold opened up has the same sized screen as the large galaxy, just taller
Who buys these gimmicky prototype phones lol surprised there is even a market/demographic for these unreliable quirky phones.
Had my z fold 2 since release, 0 issues, this guy just threw the phone in a bag full of debris, so don't go off him.
@@warshortsfactsif I had a foldable it would break instantly. Drops, dust, and various other abuse are commonplace in my phone's use. Drops are avoidable, dust isn't. There are some places I've been where even setting the phone down on a table results in a bunch of dust on it. I'll stick with my candybar phone, I don't feel babying my phone.
People who have money and who like the "folding-the-screen-in-half factor". They're in their fifth reiteration, so someone HAS to buy them.
I bought mine because I read a lot on my phone (mostly manga) and use it to draw as well. Plus I travel a lot for work so It's a nice screen to watch stuff when I can't lug around a tv
@@lucaverdi618people with money aren’t buying this phone, what do you mean…. People with money wouldn’t waste a phone thats obsolete after just 1 year
Your video is a good counterpoint to jerryrig's overly positive take that it's dust resistant ua-cam.com/video/5y7a1Eb6QR4/v-deo.htmlm53s