I think your overall assessment makes sense. For the money an S5II or IIx is hard to beat. My only question relates to the mention of internal ND for the upcoming S1H II. Has anyone in the stills-format hybrid camera space been able to include internal ND? I would certainly love to have the option, but to date it’s only small cine bodies like the FX6 and C70 (and up) which include that feature, so I’m not expecting Panasonic to shoehorn ND into a future S1 body which is a lot smaller.
I guess my thinking is that the S1H feels not far of the size of, say, a blackmagic pocket or C70. So could it be possible? I remember the S1H being one of the first mirrorless cameras to add an internal fan to prevent overheating, and with the H being the one for video users 🤞thanks for commenting as always 🙌
@@OBP_ I’ve not worked with the C70, but from what I’ve seen it’s a lot more bulked up than a mirrorless stills body. And in the BMPCC 6K Pro they have loads of room between the flange and the sensor because EF was originally designed to accommodate a mirror and prism. I would guess that eventually a company will miniaturize the variable ND system from a camera like the FX6, though you have to keep in mind, and ND like that requires a constant electrical current which would definitely impact battery life.
I own both. My S1H is my A cam. I’d pick it for cinema work 9/10 times. The screen, OLPF, the size are all winners for me. I love the s5iix, and it pretty much is b cam and gimbal. On set, the autofocus isn’t a game changer. I can get an AC and I can pull better than the AF does for my storytelling. If I can just get Panasonic to get me a global shutter box S1H2 I’d be good to go.
As a director who doesn't have the patience to watch yapety yapp videos, I REALLY appreciate you are your valued loaded content and approach! UA-cam is over due in giving you a Gold (that's right I said it, not silver) play button. You're one os the best camera comparison channels. I appreciate you! Lumix s 5 Mark ii it is!
You review is so on point, I own Lumix S1H, S1, S5II, GH5s, GH5(Broken), I'll never Sell any of them to buy another, I bought Sony A7Siii (it still have time when it shines) before S5II came out, I hardly use it now with S5iii out. Panasonic color science is amazing, also the in body stabilization best in the industry, you can get B-Raw with Blackmagic Video assist monitor, and Prores-Raw with Atomos Ninja V/V+. Not even talk about the shutter angle Sony is so stingy about, Lumix have it and Vector Scope and more goodies. Panasonic really Spoiled us. With this new Phase detect Autofocus the camera is even more Amazing. You definitely getting a subscriber out of me 😊.
Amazing video mate. As an S5 user, I will be upgrading to the S5iiX soon. There were 2 topics I wished you discussed though: 1) The Autofocus (S1H Contrast Detect vs S5ii new Phase detect) 2) The lowpass filter on the S1H that the S5ii doesn't have. I am plagued with moire during some scenarios when shooting with my S5.
Thanks for the comment 🙏 I did try to do a moire test but could not get any of the cameras to show any, I guessed it was because I was shooting 6k/4k with the cameras not HD and just did not have the right type of clothes on hand. For AF, it's just not even comparable, really for me. It's as simple as the S5ii has useable AF for video, and the S1H is a manual focus video camera.
I guess this is intentional as it is a more filmic look filmmakers want. To me the wost thing is a oversharpend digital look many photographers prefer. Being too shatp ruins the picture in my opinion
Major difference here is the OLPF - and this could have been tested with a moire test. Other than that though, the S5iix is winner in every other area.
Yeah, I was aware of this. My thinking was that it would show on the lens chart toward the centre as the lines got closer and finer, but in the footage, I did not see a difference, as you can see. But maybe in another situation, it would show 🤔
@@OBP_ oh good point! I just know that several users who are S1H owners complained about how bad the X was with moire. Easy test is with certain types of suit jackets 🙂
@@vaylx2253 Totally agree. Difference is actually real. If you want to hand off your footagw OLPF is a must. It's more than moire lines, it influences the colora as well.
@@creativegreatsvisuals The S1H has an OLPF and the S5II (x) does not. The image quality with the OLPF is preferable - its a little softer (less digital looking) and there's no moire issues like we've experienced with the S5II.
I’ve shot the S1H and S5iiX side by side on multiple events. The OLPF in the S1H accounts for the noticeable difference in sharpness, which also means I’ve never seen moiré on the S1H (haven’t seen it yet on the S5iiX yet either but others have). The thing I LOVE about the S5iiX is open gate in 25fps. The S1H doesn’t offer PAL frame rates in OG 🧐
Thanks for this, interesting video. I bought an S1 and the V-log upgrade used, which is actually a good deal if you just need a b-cam (as I did) or have manual lenses, less than half the price of an S5ii. With the upgrade it does basically everything the S1h does but without an OLPF. I will be very interested to see what the S1h mkii could bring if it ever comes out.
@@heroaomedia thanks for that. I have the S1H, thought about getting rid of the Ninja V for a video assist due to the B-Raw but will shoot prores raw, convert to CinemaDNG and work with that in resolve.
@@kevinbillington9773 smart thinking - hoping they update it. I don't notice it since I use vintage glass but on the S1H there is definite sharpening in b-raw. I don't shoot internal just because of how it processes motion - can't stand it.
Your skin tone looks better on the S5ii. S1H has more magenta. Can't wait for what S1H mk2 would offer. I'm thinking of getting an S1H though when the price go down further.
Anyone know how to 'punch-in' during internal recording on the S1H for focusing purposes? I updated to the latest firmware (2.6) but can't seem to figure it out
Bro thank for making this video this is the first one to be made and best. I own 2 S1H and need a 3rd camera but dont want to buy another. I have my eyes on the S5ii not sure if it will hold up to the S1H
For me big change what no one is talking about is ability to zoom image on screen when recording with manual focus ( like on sony cameras). Its so useful when you do wedding ceremony and sometimes i wasn't 100% if i properly focus on people.
@@OBP_hey bro, I heard that if you get high res lenses it eliminates the issues of autofocus greatly on the older Panasonic mirrorless cameras.. I want to get into photography and video and want to buy an S1H and I'm wondering if you think I should go for it. It'll be my first camera but I want to get something that will be attracted for my customers after my production with them. If you can please help me out bro. What are some pieces of advice you can give?. I am based in Los Angeles. Thank you brother
I disagree with the battery runtime… i own both cameras and the battery live on the s1 and S1H is noticeable longer. Often I need just one battery change while a ten to twelve hour shooting. With the mark II on the other hand I need to swap the battery multiple times. Not a big deal but still something to consider in my opinion
I only was able to watch you video until 6mins cuz there is a highfrequent sound all over your voice and i just cant take it anymore. If you call yourself a content creator this shouldnt be happening with your videos. No like and no follow
I think your overall assessment makes sense. For the money an S5II or IIx is hard to beat. My only question relates to the mention of internal ND for the upcoming S1H II. Has anyone in the stills-format hybrid camera space been able to include internal ND? I would certainly love to have the option, but to date it’s only small cine bodies like the FX6 and C70 (and up) which include that feature, so I’m not expecting Panasonic to shoehorn ND into a future S1 body which is a lot smaller.
I guess my thinking is that the S1H feels not far of the size of, say, a blackmagic pocket or C70. So could it be possible? I remember the S1H being one of the first mirrorless cameras to add an internal fan to prevent overheating, and with the H being the one for video users 🤞thanks for commenting as always 🙌
main challenge is internal ND plus mirrorless plus IBIS. No one has figured that out yet...
@@OBP_ I’ve not worked with the C70, but from what I’ve seen it’s a lot more bulked up than a mirrorless stills body. And in the BMPCC 6K Pro they have loads of room between the flange and the sensor because EF was originally designed to accommodate a mirror and prism. I would guess that eventually a company will miniaturize the variable ND system from a camera like the FX6, though you have to keep in mind, and ND like that requires a constant electrical current which would definitely impact battery life.
Yes, Panasonic, please make it happen!
I own both. My S1H is my A cam. I’d pick it for cinema work 9/10 times. The screen, OLPF, the size are all winners for me. I love the s5iix, and it pretty much is b cam and gimbal.
On set, the autofocus isn’t a game changer. I can get an AC and I can pull better than the AF does for my storytelling.
If I can just get Panasonic to get me a global shutter box S1H2 I’d be good to go.
As a director who doesn't have the patience to watch yapety yapp videos, I REALLY appreciate you are your valued loaded content and approach! UA-cam is over due in giving you a Gold (that's right I said it, not silver) play button. You're one os the best camera comparison channels. I appreciate you! Lumix s 5 Mark ii it is!
You review is so on point, I own Lumix S1H, S1, S5II, GH5s, GH5(Broken), I'll never Sell any of them to buy another, I bought Sony A7Siii (it still have time when it shines) before S5II came out, I hardly use it now with S5iii out.
Panasonic color science is amazing, also the in body stabilization best in the industry, you can get B-Raw with Blackmagic Video assist monitor, and Prores-Raw with Atomos Ninja V/V+.
Not even talk about the shutter angle Sony is so stingy about, Lumix have it and Vector Scope and more goodies.
Panasonic really Spoiled us.
With this new Phase detect Autofocus the camera is even more Amazing.
You definitely getting a subscriber out of me 😊.
Totally agree about the shutter, waveform, vector, etc. Thanks for taking the time to comment. It means a lot 🙏
Amazing video mate. As an S5 user, I will be upgrading to the S5iiX soon. There were 2 topics I wished you discussed though:
1) The Autofocus (S1H Contrast Detect vs S5ii new Phase detect)
2) The lowpass filter on the S1H that the S5ii doesn't have. I am plagued with moire during some scenarios when shooting with my S5.
Thanks for the comment 🙏 I did try to do a moire test but could not get any of the cameras to show any, I guessed it was because I was shooting 6k/4k with the cameras not HD and just did not have the right type of clothes on hand. For AF, it's just not even comparable, really for me. It's as simple as the S5ii has useable AF for video, and the S1H is a manual focus video camera.
At 5:25 there’s so much noise over the S5ii color checker. The S1H is definitely a cleaner camera.
Low pass filter and EVF are far better on the S1H compared to the S5ii.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a message 🙏
The S1H looks like it has a Black Pro Mist filter, no big deal.
I was using the same lens on both cameras. Guess maybe it blooms the highlights a little more than the S5ii
I guess this is intentional as it is a more filmic look filmmakers want. To me the wost thing is a oversharpend digital look many photographers prefer. Being too shatp ruins the picture in my opinion
its s1h brother
You're not wrong 🤝
*promosm*
Major difference here is the OLPF - and this could have been tested with a moire test. Other than that though, the S5iix is winner in every other area.
Yeah, I was aware of this. My thinking was that it would show on the lens chart toward the centre as the lines got closer and finer, but in the footage, I did not see a difference, as you can see. But maybe in another situation, it would show 🤔
@@OBP_ oh good point! I just know that several users who are S1H owners complained about how bad the X was with moire. Easy test is with certain types of suit jackets 🙂
S1H for this exact reason.
Yup. No OLPF makes the newer bodies dead on arrival for me. All puns intended.
@@vaylx2253 Totally agree. Difference is actually real. If you want to hand off your footagw OLPF is a must. It's more than moire lines, it influences the colora as well.
we have both - still much prefer the image quality out of the S1H. really looking forward to the S1HM2.
Man I cant wait for the S1h 2 ^^ I am super happy with my S1h. Love this cam
what different about image quality ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals The S1H has an OLPF and the S5II (x) does not. The image quality with the OLPF is preferable - its a little softer (less digital looking) and there's no moire issues like we've experienced with the S5II.
I’ve shot the S1H and S5iiX side by side on multiple events. The OLPF in the S1H accounts for the noticeable difference in sharpness, which also means I’ve never seen moiré on the S1H (haven’t seen it yet on the S5iiX yet either but others have). The thing I LOVE about the S5iiX is open gate in 25fps. The S1H doesn’t offer PAL frame rates in OG 🧐
s1h is not open gate ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals yes it is, just no 50Hz/PAL in Open Gate on the S1H
@@the_black_douglas9041 what’s 50hz pal?
Thanks for this, interesting video. I bought an S1 and the V-log upgrade used, which is actually a good deal if you just need a b-cam (as I did) or have manual lenses, less than half the price of an S5ii. With the upgrade it does basically everything the S1h does but without an OLPF. I will be very interested to see what the S1h mkii could bring if it ever comes out.
S1 is my main camera, I love the features.
@@ShellyBHollisI have the S1 as well, it has the back lit buttons, 6k recording, Vlog, anamorphic mode, anamorphic IBIS and any other things.
@@jayclas4023 To me it was always the sleeping giant out of the s series release. soon as I seen the specs I was all in.
Why is S1H the only one Netflix approved if others in the lineup do things better?
The Panasonic BGH1(MFT) is Netflix approved too. Keep in mind they both have OLPF.
Timecode I think
OLPF and 24fps are meaningful advantages for the S1h.
S1H is Netflix Approved, S5ii isn't
loved the video, i have a gh6 , was thinking to get the s5II to go full frame but im holding on if the s1h comes out
I think lumix is in an amazing place for the S1Hii to be one of the best cameras on sale! Let's hope they give us what we all want 🙏
Have you shot BRAW external on either of this? Wondering how it compares when it gets to grading compared to the Black Magic Cameras.
the b-raw on the X is annoyingly much better than on the S1H. B-raw on the X is pretty much equal to b-raw coming straight out of Blackmagic cameras.
@@heroaomedia thanks for that. I have the S1H, thought about getting rid of the Ninja V for a video assist due to the B-Raw but will shoot prores raw, convert to CinemaDNG and work with that in resolve.
@@kevinbillington9773 smart thinking - hoping they update it. I don't notice it since I use vintage glass but on the S1H there is definite sharpening in b-raw. I don't shoot internal just because of how it processes motion - can't stand it.
Your skin tone looks better on the S5ii. S1H has more magenta. Can't wait for what S1H mk2 would offer. I'm thinking of getting an S1H though when the price go down further.
. Is the S1H II coming out?
S1H is MASSIVE compare to the S5ii
And this is a good thing
Moiré resistance is probably the biggest difference between the two.
I have seen a s1h for 2400 euros on amazon, brandnew!!
Anyone know how to 'punch-in' during internal recording on the S1H for focusing purposes? I updated to the latest firmware (2.6) but can't seem to figure it out
Only S5ii and X has that feature
@@ryszardzokowski812thanks for replying
Bro thank for making this video this is the first one to be made and best. I own 2 S1H and need a 3rd camera but dont want to buy another. I have my eyes on the S5ii not sure if it will hold up to the S1H
Thanks for taking the time to comment 🙌 hope the video helps.
For me big change what no one is talking about is ability to zoom image on screen when recording with manual focus ( like on sony cameras). Its so useful when you do wedding ceremony and sometimes i wasn't 100% if i properly focus on people.
Agreed, this is massive!
Is it only pip screen or full screen zoom when using that feature?
@@aleksivahapassiweddings both
Super😊👌
I actually really needed to see this! Thanks bro
Thanks for commenting 🙌
@@OBP_hey bro, I heard that if you get high res lenses it eliminates the issues of autofocus greatly on the older Panasonic mirrorless cameras.. I want to get into photography and video and want to buy an S1H and I'm wondering if you think I should go for it. It'll be my first camera but I want to get something that will be attracted for my customers after my production with them. If you can please help me out bro. What are some pieces of advice you can give?. I am based in Los Angeles. Thank you brother
For me is the S1h the clear winner.
I disagree with the battery runtime… i own both cameras and the battery live on the s1 and S1H is noticeable longer. Often I need just one battery change while a ten to twelve hour shooting. With the mark II on the other hand I need to swap the battery multiple times. Not a big deal but still something to consider in my opinion
Video starts at 4:15
I only was able to watch you video until 6mins cuz there is a highfrequent sound all over your voice and i just cant take it anymore. If you call yourself a content creator this shouldnt be happening with your videos. No like and no follow