I Found Out How to Make Lumix Autofocus Amazing, S5ii & S5iiX!
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Attention Panasonic Lumix S5ii & S5iix Owners.
This guide makes it easy and achievable to get the best possible video from your camera...
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00:00 - Start
00:30 - Running order
01:01 - lenses
02:06 - Settings
03:21 - AF modes
06:47 - Speed & Sensitivity
07:33 - Operation
08:27 - Interview / Talking Heads
08:52 - Event / Wedding
09:55 - Focus pull
10:37 - General wide
10:55 - Tracking shot
11:15 - Object tracking - Навчання та стиль
I agree with pretty much everything in this video.
In my experience with my S5IIX, there is no best settings for AF Speed and Sensitivity. I set the front Fn button to recall those settings so I can change them depending on the shot I need to get. By setting up a lot of different scenarios in my appartment and outdoors, I quickly realized that depending on the particular scenario, ANY value can be appropriate. Never assume that one value is ''the ultimate sweet spot'' because it's really relative to the light, contrast, distance, particular subject and its surroundings. My advice would be to find the settings that work the best for you all-around (or use the 0-0 default settings) and save them to your C preset as default... but then, NEVER forget to experiment with them to get the best result ''for the shot''.
To me, an AF system is like a racing car.. you really need to learn how to ''pilot'' it to get the best out of it.
Love this 👌 pinned for everyone to read, thanks 🙌
What’s a c preset ?
I have the s5iix, only 40 days. I had to film a concert, with poor lighting and a choir of 30 people behind the singer. Without being sure I chose area+ WITHOUT HUMAN DETECTION!!! 100% success. No one had pointed it out but you in this video.
I have a feeling that enough things are already there, we just have to learn how to use them.
Ahh! Yes, well done. I had the exact same question!! Any focus hunting during the show?
Well played 👌 we defo have the tools we need with the new Lumix AF system. It's just about us creators taking the time to understand them.
@the_black_douglas9041 No problem at all. In another concert with bright lights and "smoke," I used AREA mode with human detection, with focus on the singer, aperture 5.6 and with AF settings: (af speed -1 and af sensitivity-1). Cine D profile and ISO 5000. Amazing results, no noise !!! Oh man, this camera rocks!!!
Why af settings and sensitivity at -1 im curious
Thanks in advance. I picked up an S5 late last year and I’m still learning my way around it. So far it seems to work well, even AF in video, but I’m going to come back to this video multiple times to make sure I’m getting the most out of it.
Excellent demonstrations, thanks
Great video! Been on the fence about the s5iix given the negativity about it but I’m all in now! Thank you
Just got my S5II X.Thank you :)
Really helpful! Cheers!
Very useful, thanks a lot!
Great video!!!
Thanks so much I will try !
Thank you.... and cheers, mate!
Thanks for taking the time to comment 🙏
Sooo useful :) Thank you. I just picked up this camera. :) ❤
Glad it was helpful! Great choice, amazing camera.
Super helpful thanks! Seems like the 1 area modes are only useful if the subject is NOT moving, correct? Thanks!
The drag trick is super cool!
👌
I was like wow , I learned something new haha. Thanx
very useful - am a beginner - but best tutorial ive found so far
Cheers dude. All useful info for when I can pick up an S5IIx hopefully within a month or so.
You'll not regret it! Thanks for the comment 🙌
@@OBP_ Yeah I’m looking forward to it! 🙌
This is the best video on S5 auto focus on youtube. Not sure why this has 60 dislikes. Keep up the great work man.
Sony people…😂
Thank you! What would be the best mode for a podcast with multiple people but you dont want anyone to ever be out of focus? And what would be the best mode for a dance choreography music video?
Nice one mate! I have regular business shooting concerts but I’m wary and unsure of using the S5iiX in autofocus for it when there are loads of people on a stage 40 metres away and I’m on 150-200mm. At those focal lengths you’re already really shallow regardless of f stop. In manual focus I tend to just shut the iris down to f/11, bang the ISO up to 10000, and that way get a solidly focused shot for everyone on the stage. I am keen to get tighter shots reliably with the autofocus. This breakdown will give me a good starting point. Thanks again!
That's sound tricky! maybe there is a middle ground where you don't drop the F-stop as much and try to use 1-area plus to cover the stage, for the tighter shots the S5iiX will defo be up to the task, thanks for taking the time to comment, appreciate it man!
@@OBP_ yeah! The 1-area+ sounds like the go!! Thanks 🙏🏻 😸
when in human detect mode, try pushing the joystick inward after you choose a subject in a multi-face scene (also with just one face) - the camera box will change with little hash marks around the flat sides of the box and stay locked on your subject. This works on the S5 mark i as well. Thanks for the tips video.
Amazing did not know this, thanks will defo be trying it out.
I love this function on the S5! Unfortunately it is not available on S5ii :-( This is because of the new AF system can't work with this function.
Awesome!!!
Just ordered my S5ll to go along with my Sony FX6. Will be using primarily with my DJI Mini 3, Thanks for the great tips but why is there so much pulsing going on in the background during your demos with the lenses in the begining of your video?
Thanks for sharing your experiences, very valuable. I am a doc filmer, lots of handheld: In a run 'n gun situation like a wedding, how do you place the box around a person while doing handheld camera work? (ie holding the camera against your face)
Ok cool. Now make S5 autofocus amazing
Lidar haha
I was shooting for YT video a yoga teacher teaching two students. It did a way better job in choosing the which face to track (than my stationary a6400), and I could switch between boxes/faces with the joystick. Sometimes I did have to press the box on the screen to choose (especially when she was moving a lot around, and boxes of faces were overlapping)
That has been one of the hardest scenarios for me to shoot.
Same scenario (but with full class) and the Sony zv-e10 it was a nightmare for face tracking. Focus was pulsing like crazy and I ended up using manual focus (which due to the crappy screen of the camera, eventhough it seemed in focus, on edit I realized that missed the focus 30% of the time)
Enjoyed the video, for like familly home videos of a toddler running around all crazy, what mode and settings would you suggest? I try one area plus with human detect usually but can be a challenge to keep her in the box
I would try zone and make the box a rectangle shape. Removing the top and bottom of the image, also without human detection could work better I feel. Lastly, make sure you have the AF speed set nice and high and sensitivity on the lower side to lock on.
@@OBP_thanks, appreciate it!
Very good! Thanks
Is there an external monitor that you can drag the autofocus like this?
Good to see you back. That's a good question. There is the smartphone option, but that's not a proper solution for a professional setup in my eyes. Port-key, do a monitor that controls the BS1H. It would be interesting to know if that could do it. I'm going to try to get my hands on one to test
Thank you
Welcome!
Thanks, this is very helpful! One question I had was that it was not clear if you generally preferred the maximum speed/sensitivity selections, or something a notch or two lower than that, although I'm sure davidmultimedia is correct that there no one rule.
This camera almost had me drop the Amex on it. But heavy rolling shutter is not an option for me. Amazing features 👍🏽
That dragging the autofocus box was HUGE. thanks man! Any luck with autofocus in the dark? Often when I do photoshoots and use flash it'll be super dark in the room until the flash and I miss focus about 60% of the time
Photos are definitely not my expertise, sorry. If it was a video situation, then it's just a case of using whatever you can (apture, ISO) to get that image exposed, and then the AF would work as normal!
@@OBP_ Fair enough. I'll definitely be using the drag trick now
I have Nikon D2X, when I focus using autofocus for shooting photo buy pressing the click button halfway, there is a green indicator which lights up confirming that the subject is in focus. Is there any indicator in Lumix S5II that tells us that the subject is in focus? Thanks for answering in advance.
I believe you have mixed up the Sigma adapters, the MC11 is for sigma SA or Canon EF to Sony E mount. The MC21 is the adapter for the L mount.
Loving you videos fella. I have an S5 and s5ii and I’m totally over the moon with the cameras. I’ve just bought a Ronin 4D if you ever want want to review or test it give me a shout. I’ve bought the Lmount for it so i’m running my lumix 18mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8, and idly the kit lens. I’m in sunny Manchester.
Thanks for the comment 🙌 that would be amazing! give me on follow on Instagram or Twitter / X so I can have a proper chat with you. Thanks so much, man 🙏
Thank you for the helpful info! It's really useful for me getting used to my new S5ii!
Have you made a similar video with the 2.0 firmware up date? I’m curious to see how massive or minor the update is for you.
Awesome video
🙏
Hey, I know you have a video comparing them. But I'm thinking of buying a S5ii (not X as wont need the extras) to make the best looking short films I can. Would you use the S5ii for this or the S1H? I haven't bought them yet and heard about the Low Pass filter not being on the S5ii and can't afford on top mist filters without spending a fortune on decent ones to keep colours etc. Curious if the S1h is more for my needs or does the S5ii provide the same image quality for a cinematic look? Would you use your s5ii on high paying jobs for commercials and short films etc or would you use more expensive cinema cameras for those jobs. I want something that'll be worth buying for clients in the future
For me, I like the S5ii, but if you don't need the AF and find a deal for an S1H I also think that a great option, now is not the best time to be buying a brand new S1H though, as I I can a new one dropping in the next few months. but if I had to pick one for every shoot, id pick the S5ii. Also the new L-mount full frame Blackmagic is in and round that price point, for a short film that could be an amazing camera.
Great uh oh focus tips
Ta' Duck 🙌
I just purchased my S5IIx. Waiting to arrive in a couple weks to my country. No one has this camera in my city...maybe there´s a few in the whole country, he he (Venezuela).
I never had a camera with auto focus in my life. So I will always rely on manual focus to be safe, when there is no possibility of reshoot. Could you give me some tips for people like me, who normally want to rely more on manual focus, especially on important and unrepeatable shots? A button that allows me to focus on an area quickly and (as I'm used to) keep my distance afterwards?
Thanks
Hey all, I generally will use a dji gimbal when in video for powerlifting events - should I just leave the AF in full mode? The problem I have is the athletes looking down and then the camera switching focus to the person next to them LOL
You're right but very often subjects are moving and not having human detect is a problem, so in general you have to consider the context you're in. btw I'm Italian, I hope my English doesn't suck ahahah
what to do when shooting with view finder ??
素晴らしい！
Is the box size changeable on the 1 area +? I just bought an s5iix and the box size has only two sizes on the 1 area + as compared to many sizes on the 1 area. Is this how it is?
I've the same issue like you. It's very strange this behaviour by my point of view.
@@kwnbwindsurf5626 Yes, But I did more research into it and this is how it is.
For 1 Area +, the box sizes are only available in 2 options. The 1 Area mode however has more than 2 box sizes.
@@theperpetualbum thank you man!!! Another thing if it's possible: I have noted that the horizontal and vertical AF zone in not sizeable, is it that?
If I connect the Lumix to an atomos ninja, the Lumix screen will go blank. Can I adjust the focus like you did swiping on the atomos Ninja?
If you are using the Lumix S5ii, the screen should not be going black. But you can not use the atomos for focus control.
I love my Lumix cameras. They're my favorite save for one item: MF. The peaking is uniformly terrible on some models (like the S1), and not very good on the rest. You would think focus peaking would be the same from model to model but this is not the truth.
I think focus peaking works best on the GH5.
Sony has been horrible in the past with MF, but recently it's much better.
But Fujifilm is, by far, the best for focus peaking. Very refined and very accurate and easy to read.
I really wish Panasonic would improve the focus peaking on their cameras. I love to use dead, non-electronic, lenses, like Canon FD lenses, and for that you really really really need excellent focus peaking.
1:21 - O-O focus 😃
So if I need the whole frame in focus what should I do? My camera goes blurry for some reason when I pan over to another subject
By subject do you mean a person? If so don't use human detection as strange as that sounds. Just use 1 area plus and make sure the subject is in the box. If it's just a wide/opener and you need the environment in focus then just have human detection off and use the full-frame tracking and you'll be fine 🙌
thank you so much! also would you happen to know what i should do if i want two people to be focused in the frame at the same time? should i do the same thing?@@OBP_
nice
If you find out how the Lumix S5"s autofocus can be made amazing then you should do a video. S5II and S5IIx is are amazing in AF.
For the S5 use MF Manual Focus with Peaking and adjust the Peaking to a level you like. Get a Focus Follower to dial in MF easier. A good Focus Follower is not expensive. Can also have the Screen display in Monochrome to highlight the Peaking Tool if needed. Of course the image profile in stills and video is what you choose regardless of Screen being Monochrome.
@@don_at_large Well there should be a setting where the camera does not loose focus when I have human detect and I lit the scene right, do not make any crazy moves only walk towards the model or away from the model and want him/her be in focus right? This is not too much to ask. Not in bitch black with running.
why so jittery when focused?
I have heard that AF struggle with sigma 24 70 when recording 4K 50fps, have you notice or experienced anything?
Use this all the time and it's works totally fine.
My Guy 😂 Sincerely appreciate you for this one. So tired of Sony shooters I run with saying the new Panasonic AF is trash and me not knowing enough to prove them wrong 😅
thank you for watching my vids bro! This is just the start for Lumix, Sony should be worried! 12th of September Lumix drop the next stage in there AF journey!
I had the sony a7iv and sold it before i got the s5iix.
In terms of AF… sony is still king… lumix still has a bit more to catch up to sonys level.
Agree, Lumix is playing catch-up for sure! But moving impressively fast, compared to other manufacturers I would say.
@@OBP_ agree, their first attempt has been really good
Am i the only one with super good autofocus straight out the box???
hey, Nice video. Just wanted to point out that its Sigma MC 21 adapter not MC 11 (Mc 11 is for l mount to Sony E mount conversion).
Not again! If I do this one more video, dam it 🤦🏼♂️(it's like the 3rd time). Thanks for pointing this out 🙌
@@OBP_ 😅
I work with s5ii and sony A7iv, i cant understand why lumix in s5ii in full hd kepp the contrast detection, its a big mistake, i believe if they have fix it right, many sony users they come in lumix,. And i see in used mirrorless now.. With a 1 wear s5ii, the price is so down.. And the sony because i think listening the customer, even the a7iii is still in big price for a 2018 camera. So I think the s5ii in 1 and.. year, you can find it in 1000e.. Just a beast camera like lumix s5ii, its go down because they dont listen the customers..
Manuel Focus xD
“Manuel” focus. Lol.
Tracking autofocus is dont work well . And this is the true . I do a video for dancer and really the tracking is a trash😭. I love my lumix s 5 markt ii but if panasonic do a big change in the next firmware i think i will sell it .
*Mc-21
Funny that it can`t handle basic FHD 50-60p in Full frame mode
no camera in this price range can handle full 24Mp sensor readout in high framerates
@@sunlit777 sony a7iv? A7c? A7iii?
I feel like your eye isn't really sharp at all @9:33 for example... just me?
Bro, I’m going through your cine guide now. ??? In the drag from one face to another. Say the examples are
1. 2 Speakers at a Wedding 5 feet apart?
2. Gimbal tracking a Bride and Groom slight separated holding hands walking towards you?
Your thoughts on best AF settings to use for those scenarios?
Thanks for the insight Bro.
Because there are 2 people in frame, I would avoid human detection and just go with 1 area + and place the box over the person you want in focus, also makes it much easier to focus rack between 2 people if that was needed mid take.
I drastically improved my autofocus by buying a Sony.
Nice, can’t afford one. Plus it doesn’t shoot 6k despite being 5,000 lol
If you can't make the S5 work, there is no point in buying the ii or the X. The S5 is awesome.
S5ii is better
@@Ciarawilsonin some ways, and worse in other ways
I have Dave s5 and the s5xii. S5iiX is far better. Sorry, man.
Which language are you speaking?
Gosh you look like the twin brother of that ally law guy, I mean maybe you are lol!. You probably hear that all the time. No hate towards that ally guy, but usually looking identical to a well known youtube is probably a good thing. But that guy has a massive criminal record, is banned from most airlines, think he’s banned from entering the USA and is banned from all Merlin attractions here in the U.K. like theme parks. Hopefully it hasn’t caused you negative consequences just yea I couldn’t help noticing it immediately!. Like I said no hate towards that ally guy just he’s actions and punishments are what they are.
I'm not aware of that guy but after a little Google, I see your point 😂😂
@@OBP_ I was worried about leaving that comment. Because I could foresee why you might be like why are you making me aware of this if it’s not essentially a positive thing. I guess the main reason having thought about it is. I’m not sure about you buy it always makes me uneasy if your out snd you suddenly find someone staring at you. Or you go into a shop and security seem to be looking at you and your thinking what wtf. So yea I thought I’d mention it Because incase your ever at say Thorpe park, the airport etc and staff start getting funny and aggressive thinking your that ally guy and without you knowing he exists. If it was me I’d be thinking wtf I haven’t done anything. So yea at least if that god forbid happens (I hope it doesn’t). You can be like hoooooold on yes I do UA-cam but I’m not that guy lol.
Thanks