I think the sisters planned it together and were so arrogant they thought they could fudge the evidence enough to get an aquittal based on reasonable doubt. This was like a badly written detective novel that most people could see right through. So many lives ruined.
There is reasonable doubt. I would not have gone along in a guilty verdict. They were as far as presented here, only able to put her in the neighbourhood and even that has question marks. No direct evidence at all.
Also the victim always lights up a room, would give you the shirt off their back, and nothing will ever bring the victim back. So tired of those tropes.
@@toddbrown9095 Yeah, I also don't believe that either. Like people in general, all have pros and cons. There is no way every person who is murdered is the greatest person alive; they make them feel more inhuman.
LOL. I knooooow right. smh Naive thinking. Her name makes me laugh sounds so innocent or like a disney character.Piper.lol And the wig part where he asked him if he wears them. LOL
My thought was both sisters discussed the plan with the idea of blaming each other to create doubt if one of them was arrested. It did not work. In the Interview at the end, Piper feigns crying but no tear drops emerge. She's a skilled actor.
During Piper's testimony she slips and says that Tina said something about getting the blonde wig. No doubt in my mind that Tina actually concocted this scheme, and convinced Piper that it would work. That's why Tina isn't bothered by being thrown under the bus by her own sister. She's guilty too.
Piper said in the beginning of the story, Tina was the strong one. Could always figure things out and take care of me. You're right. Tina's idea, Piper the pawn. Tina made no bones about her contempt for the guy.
Prob why she failed that bar exam! Something definitely changed in that mind of her over the time period she stopped working and became sahm! Sadly, the kids pay huge price cause apparently she was a great Mom!!!
*Fred should Not have tried to be so Controlling and take her kids away from her,* then had her pay Debt from when they were married in the Form of $890 Child Support a month. *It cost him his life.* JOINT CUSTODY was Not enough for him, he just had to go back after a while and Fight for Full Custody. *He's dead so they'll try to make him seem like this Great person, but he provoked the Situation.* IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. She spent time in Prison but is up for Parole again in a couple years and will be out. Meanwhile Fred is Dead. It was not worth it at all. Her Adult Kids will have a Relationship with her.
Maybe I’m naive but what’s more shocking to me than the crime is how all of these murderers can so easily lie and feign innocence without any hesitation.
you're not naive. she's a psychopath. consider your shock a good sign. other docs told the story better of how she was a highly selfish and manipulative person her whole life. you can tell she sought out men to control.
Don't forget about their family who in the face of so much evidence still stand by their claim of innocence. I love each one of my sisters to death but if they were on trial and I saw that much conclusive evidence, I'd say sorry sis....I don't believe you.
Many psychopaths secretly believe they are superior and are unable to picture themselves being outsmarted by other lesser beings. Most have a God complex - and thank god bc this is how most are caught! A great starter book is The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. Brilliant and an entertaining read.
She might have an abnormal prefrontal cortex, one function of which is predicting the consequences of one’s actions. Maybe she was a lousy prosecutor who could only analyze situations after they occurred.
@@joez.2794sociopath is much too kind of word. Let's call her a psychopath. There is a difference. What's wrong with sharing your kids? They need both parents right? This woman is beyond depraved to come up with a plan to take the life of another.
Another podcast I watched on this talked about how Piper kept getting fired from jobs. She was a drug addict and had trouble with drinking. Her husband worked very hard to try to get her better and even moved down to Texas for her to be close with her family.
Yay! Thank you all for part 2. I remember this case being covered on the early seasons of snapped they didn’t give half as much detail as you all did. I learned a lot. Happy weekend everyone🤗
The mother is in complete denial. The two sisters being extremely close I’m pretty sure the sister knew piper was using her identity and was aware of her vicious plan all along. She doesn’t deserve to see her children. She’s in the right place.
@@redacted2275 yea I think she is just shocked as a mother but she knows her daughter did it. She is not delusional nor in denial, she is just a mother
Nobody seems to talk about the mentally sadistic husband, who caused all this tragedy. Not physically, but his failure to be a real man precipitated what followed.
I hope the children were able to find some sense of peace and happiness in this horrible situation that their own mother caused. The judge that gave dad full custody sure called that right, wow!
I dont understand how this wasnt even a topic anyways as evidence in this case questioning her state of mind. I have been through the system, some exes wanted me to look so bad in front of a judge - but I didnt. Objection, not relevant?
The fact that she would allow her defense to implicate her sister just sealed it for me. If I was innocent and my lawyers told me that the only way to save myself was to throw my sister under the bus and say she did it I would be furious. I would fire them immediately,
She bought the plane ticket in her sister’s name and bought a blonde wig to pass as her sister. So she’s the one that initially tried implicating her sister.
This woman is very dangerous. Cold, calculating murderer. Never does she speak of her ex-husband or show sadness over his death. Instead she slanders him and even tries blaming her sister! Disgusting
I actually watched part 1 twice thinking I had fallen asleep. It wasn't titled properly, just the one part, thought I was losing it as I kept hearing the same script. Couldn't have cared less who was the shooter when I finally hit on it. What a waste of time.
Whats important thing to notice is that 1st of all this lady was a prosecutor and I'm sure she thought she was being really smart ordering wigs and buying the ticket in their sister's name. She thought she could outsmart the law. Notice how she elevates her voice and pretends to be emotional yet. There's not a single tear. I have no doubt a hundred percent that this lady is guilty!
So it's NOT just me thinking this, I'm surprised more people didn't take notice on that. She only ever looked truly upset when she was playing her game on that stand
I like that sentencing was immediate. I hate when there’s a verdict, and then sentencing is scheduled months later. The justice system moves way too slowly most of the time.
our justice system is designed to move somewhat slowly.. same for creating bills and laws.. you dont want to react within emotion and haste when crimes occur.. you want to be level headed and allow each person their defense (assumptive innocence) even tho some crimes are heinous and it's hard.. but you want to enforce the laws we hav already, not make a bunch of new ones frivolously and out of high emotion, bc that's how our Freedoms are lost.. also the reactions of witch hunting, the riled-up townsfolk running rabid with torches and pitchforks yelling "burn her..!" its just not effective justice.. . be very, very careful of those freedoms you giv away, for once they are gone, you will Never get them back..
yeah, that did NOT look like her to me (thick nose and tan skin). but the show suggested it was her so it must be. i think this show can persuade an audience in any direction they want then they read comments to know how well it worked
@Vlasko60 *EXACTLY! He escalated the Situation trying to be controlling.* He had the judge agree to a Psychiatrist evaluating both him and her to see who would be better. Supposedly Fred could use better Judgement based on the evaluation. That still doesn't make her a Bad Mom if someone else has better reasoning skills. Some wives are better at that than their Husbands. Still, both parents are fine. He made accusations that were used against her CLAIMING HE FEARED For the Children's Safety while with her, since she let them Cross a 4-lane highway alone. He just wanted Money and to take the Kids away.
For a former PROSECUTING attorney, it’s almost comical how stupid and sloppy she was with this crime. On top of that, to frame her own sister, that she was close with!? Now her children will also end up hating her for killing their father. What a loser.
as an even smarter individual it is comical regarding her sloppy steps. as an even smarter person, we see this "show" is super manipulative. why do they waste time on the sisters relationship yet skip the facts around the justice system taking all parental rights away from the person that - the show admits- spent all their time with the children. why don't they show the fathers involvement prior to that case? why don't they show either 1) why she was unfit and/or 2) the nasty tricky he played in court.
I wonder if the sisters conspired in advance (or even after the fact) about this. With the moronic goal of creating doubt in a jury. The older sister might’ve been quite comfortable with the fact that there would’ve been no proof tying her to the crime after her sister’s exoneration. So maybe it was “go ahead sis it can’t hurt me.” With their relationship I can’t imagine they didn’t share the plot from conception. I also believe both sisters are psychopaths. They often have a god complex. For them, the idea that they could be outwitted by lesser beings is unthinkable. That’s why they can often leave normal people scratching their heads.
I don't think she framed her sister. I think the sisters planned it both together and the plan was to make it look like it might have been the other one and so create doubt in the jury. I'm glad it didn't work
everybody has the legal right to a speedy trial. Some people waive that right. She knew it was best to not waive it as that could give them time to get more evidence. Some people waive it so they have more time for a better defence.
@@Douglas_Hamilton only because if there's reasonable doubt, they can't find her guilty and there's no evidence against her sister so they figured they could get away with it. They didn't realize what reasonable doubt was apparently.
People perplex me with these ridiculous, lamebrain schemes. Children are important, but you can't be obsessed with them. They're the most important in a good parent's life, BUT, if your love for them makes you do something criminal causing you to be separated from them forever, you need to get that under control and STAY FREE. All kids grow up.
It wasn’t love for her children that drove her, it was her hatred for her husband and her desire to use the kids as a pawn in her hatred for him that drove her. Scumbags have pretty clear motivations, and love isn’t one of them.
Exactly. It's more like control. They have control issues and they know they are losing control of the only people who they can mold into what they want to have someone stick by them forever and always have someone who they have power over. Letting the kids grow up with their father was too much for her egotistical arrogant selfish disgusting person that she actually is.
Tina Roundtree should've gotten a LOT more than being charged with tampering with evidence and 9 months probation. Thee is no way that she wasn't more involved especially if as she said they would sleep in the same bed as adults. Just listening to her speak it's obvious that Piper wasn't going to do anything without the help of Tina.
EXACTLY! It was a vivid expression of how cold hearted & psychotic a murdering parent is. Other lives are taken as they knew it. 😢 She wasn’t murdered (thank God!)…but my mom died a tragic death when I was 10. I was just telling someone that my childhood ended and was decimated at age 10. Sad and tragic for those kids.
I agree. Tina hated Fred, and I'm sure she complained a lot to Piper. Tina seemed very cold and detached to me. I wonder what she died from. It was 2020, so maybe COVID? I can't even find a death notice or an obituary online.
Did you know that? The convicted with life sentences never get parole if they do not admit guilt....I wonder if this is the case. She is guilty 100%. The case is one of the best episodes of the SNAPPED series aired back in 2006. R.I.P Harold Dow.
So not only is she a homicidal sociopath who killed her ex, and then tried to frame her sister for the crime, but she is also unbelievably stupid. She left so many loose ends (purchase of the wigs and plane ticket on the credit card that could easily be traced back to her, an absurdly flimsy alibi, etc.). Did she really think that prosecutors wouldn't be able to track them all down?
I never watch part 1 of any 2 parter till I see part 2 is listed..and that goes for all tv...was watching a 3 parter once and part 3 was never listed so learnt the hard way lol
In part 1 they said he painted her as irresponsible she racked up 50k in debt, was acting unstable, and cheated on him 🥴 even tho friends said she was the main parent and the kids were always with her but remember he was a master in communication he knew how to win in court
Hats off to Detectives for their awesome dedication to solve the case. Perpetrators will do anything and everything to save themselves. It is very clear that the sister was aware about everything, no wonder karma got to her. I also believe Professor was good human being, unlike the way both sisters tried to paint him. Professor being a professor, kept all the financial records of and evidence of his wife's wrong doings. RIP Professor.
@23:58 she said i HAD no right to take away the children's father!! I'm not the Judge or the Jury but to me that sounds like she admitted to killing him. Because she didn't say i HAVE no right to take away the children's father. Plus HAD is past tense! I FEEL for the kids.
Jeez, Piper, were you _trying_ to get caught? Buy everything in cash, give fake names, and use a drop phone. This lady was a prosecutor, for gosh sakes! Should have known better.
48 hours has always been such a great true crime show. Others are great; but 48 hours is the best. Harold Dow was so great. I can't think of another host who had the combination of cool voice and great interviewer. Why isn't there a location where CBS provides the entire catalog of episodes from the very beginning? I've looked at their website and app and it's not even close to complete. What's the deal? Does anybody know?
Early on 48 hours used to cover an event for 48 hours. Political campaign, hospital what have you. It then transitions into a crime show in the 90's and a full crime show in the late 2000's. I would think that's why the set of episodes are incomplete.
Great coverage of this case!!! It's good to hear the jurors reveal how they reached their verdict. Each case is like a jigsaw puzzle and the jury has to put the pieces together to reveal the whole picture.
She did her sister and her friend so wrong... Cool calm and collected on the witness stand. Evil just Evil my heart 💔💔💔 breaks for the 3 innocent children.
Funny you say this about lawyers! When one of my best friend’s 3 year old son was asked in preschool what does your daddy do, he said he’s a liar because he couldn’t say lawyer. We’ve laughed about that for a long time. 😂
If she wanted to take the stand, put her up there & question herself from there ! My Dr. use to say Doctors treating doctors = lawyer representing lawyer. They're arrogant Einstein's in their profession (So they THINK)! He said when he has those type of doctors as patients he just hands them his stethoscope & their chart then proceeds to walk out 🎤 ⬇️!!
As soon as I saw that CCTV footage, I started laughing hysterically. Despite being recorded on a Spudnitron 4000GX, I'd bet my entire right leg that was her. Not to mention, the copious amounts of tangible evidence shown at trial. I swear, I love dumb murderers, without their stupidity, justice might not get served.
Glad I waited for both parts to come out before watching! I would have been pishhhhed if I got invested in this case only to have to wait for the other half lol. The internet has broken my brain.
She killed her ex-husband. She had to lie many times, and she did, every time she needed to. She is a great liar. We see that her lies weren't good enough for the investigators not to disprove them. The combination of her faulty lies and her being a murderer truly goes against her being an honest and decent person. She should have questioned her own intelligence and her ethics, but her ego got the best of her. And ain't that the story with all criminals? She, her mother and her sister really need to "go back to the drawing board" for the sake of truly getting to know themselves and each other, in addition to understanding how and/or why they each or all "took very wrong turns" in life.
I knew Tina was innocent and Piper was the murderer. Tina is brutally honest and expressive so she speaks out while Piper bottles up rage.She is/was the ticking time bomb
Piper in particular is such an evil manipulative woman. Even invoking God and prayers and dangling crosses around her neck. She murdered Fred in cold blood without once considering that her children might want to have their father, too. Like the selfish toxic vindictive B she is, she gunned down the poor man. She, the once hot shot lawyer who once had everyone wrapped around her finger with her whimpering sympathetic eyes and southern girl charm was finally put in her place by a man she couldn't charm into submission. I would love to hear the children's perspective on their mother AND their aunt (Tina), who at the very least I'm sure didn't help and may have encouraged Piper to knock off her ex. Disgusting.
Wait wait wait. I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty darn sure nobody has "a constitutional right" to their children. Dumbest thing I've ever heard a lawyer say.
She had a job (TX attorney). She has no conscience and simply didn’t want to pay him child support and wanted to reclaim her property: the children - that’s how they view their own children.
@Which god of thousands means nothing Change the culture, entirely. This happens over the course of generations. If we have ruined our society in 100 years, we can fix it in 100 years.
Just started watching and just got it(I think). 1 wig for sister to wear to the bar pretending to be Piper for the alibi, and then Piper wearing a wig off the plane/traveling. Edit: just finished, nevermind. What's the point of titling it "two wigs" when the 2nd wig wasn't a big peice of the story? Might as well called it "2 women, a plan, and a muder"
Whew. That was terrible. At first I was sure she didn’t do it. They planned it out and was firm in their beliefs. But she did it. I hope the children are healing and doing well in life.
Definitely not the best idea to get your children back. Bad move🙄 I understand how devastated she must have been when she lost custody for her children, but how did she think getting rid of him would actually solve the problem???
I mean *technically* she did solve the problem. The fact that she would make MUCH WORSE problems for herself and not to mention others (Her ex??? Their kids????) was apparently not the first consequence to come to mind.
Why would her sister Tina not be extremely upset with practically being thrown under the bus by her sister and the defense? That seems really weird to me.
Tina was a manipulator. Let your lawyer cast speculation it was me, when EVERYBODY knew there was absolutely zero evidence, but it would hopefully cast doubt with the jury to gain an acquittal. That wasn't a gamble, that was the plan!
"I was very sad about the whole thing hearing how someone with such a high level of an education could have plotted such an event." ~Victim's Brother As if only people without an education or a lower education level than an attorney plot and commit crimes. She should have been sentenced to another life sentence for psychologically and emotionally destroying her own children's lives and leaving them without either parent. Despicable!
Justice was served but I don't understand why she was up for parole in 2020, thought she got a full life tariff, but karma got her and her cocky sister, I just want to say we miss you harold dow your a LEGEND all over the world and as an IRISH man I'd like to say we miss you everytime we watch replays, LOVE FROM IRELAND TO 48 HOURS AND THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING, BLESS YOU ALL ❤🙏💚☘🇮🇪🙏
The husband had it coming. Nobody deserves to die, but he used his skills to take away everything from her. She had nothing to lose. People with nothing to lose are the most dangerous people.
"I had no right to take my children's father away" (paraphrased) sounds a lot more like a confession than a plea of innocence. I know it's framed as a counterfactual, "I wouldn't have done this because [reasons]" sort of thing, but man that comes off weird in the wording.
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How did she die? Was it Covid-19?
How old was she when she died???
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I think the sisters planned it together and were so arrogant they thought they could fudge the evidence enough to get an aquittal based on reasonable doubt. This was like a badly written detective novel that most people could see right through. So many lives ruined.
Agree
I think you're right. All they wanted was to create reasonable doubt w/the jury that the sister did it. Hell she admitted as much.
That’s the impression I got too.
There is reasonable doubt. I would not have gone along in a guilty verdict.
They were as far as presented here, only able to put her in the neighbourhood and even that has question marks.
No direct evidence at all.
I had the same thought.
“This is not a neighborhood where this would ever happen.” Every crime show ever.
Right? Like, it can happen ANYWHERE because people are evil.
Also the victim always lights up a room, would give you the shirt off their back, and nothing will ever bring the victim back. So tired of those tropes.
Right. ESPECIALLY NOW.
@@toddbrown9095 Yeah, I also don't believe that either. Like people in general, all have pros and cons. There is no way every person who is murdered is the greatest person alive; they make them feel more inhuman.
LOL. I knooooow right. smh Naive thinking. Her name makes me laugh sounds so innocent or like a disney character.Piper.lol And the wig part where he asked him if he wears them. LOL
My thought was both sisters discussed the plan with the idea of blaming each other to create doubt if one of them was arrested. It did not work. In the Interview at the end, Piper feigns crying but no tear drops emerge. She's a skilled actor.
Yup
and Bee Gees impressionist
Skilled? She didn't fool me, or you.
more like unskilled.
Possibly even planned to set up the bf?
During Piper's testimony she slips and says that Tina said something about getting the blonde wig. No doubt in my mind that Tina actually concocted this scheme, and convinced Piper that it would work. That's why Tina isn't bothered by being thrown under the bus by her own sister. She's guilty too.
Was there any mention of which evidence Tina tampered with?
That's very interesting!
Exactly ‼️
Piper said in the beginning of the story, Tina was the strong one. Could always figure things out and take care of me. You're right. Tina's idea, Piper the pawn. Tina made no bones about her contempt for the guy.
No doubt
It was 1,000% Piper. How disgusting to try to frame your own sister.
They wanted to create reasonable doubt.
Just two peas in a pod. One playing lawyer, the other doctor ("Nurse practitioner" = "Noctor" - never seen one with their own "practice" tho, lol).
@@Emy53 Exactly 💯they trying but failing miserably playing mind games with the cops and the family of the victim
It's even more disgusting that her sister doesn't even mind it 😳😧🧐
Piper was reprehensible.
She’s a prosecutor! She knew exactly what they look for and did everything to leave evidence anyway. 🤦♀️ wow.
Especially her phone SMH
Prob why she failed that bar exam! Something definitely changed in that mind of her over the time period she stopped working and became sahm! Sadly, the kids pay huge price cause apparently she was a great Mom!!!
Arrogance/Narcissism - thinking she's smarter than everyone.
Big oops, then!
@@cloudnauert She lost custody and her job. What gave you that impression? 😏
I love how he says "I personally don't wear wigs". 😂 I like that he has to add that. Lol
the part where the prosecutor asked him if he wore wigs was edited out, I have read the full trial transcript.
In a very deep voice
Yup subtly hilarious
He had a couple other lines like that that made me chuckle 😄
That was funny in the mid 2000s. Now it would be considered problematic and transphobic.
Both sisters planned this. They thought this situation would create reasonable doubt. Only if they are identical twins. That’s where they misjudged
*Fred should Not have tried to be so Controlling and take her kids away from her,* then had her pay Debt from when they were married in the Form of $890 Child Support a month. *It cost him his life.* JOINT CUSTODY was Not enough for him, he just had to go back after a while and Fight for Full Custody. *He's dead so they'll try to make him seem like this Great person, but he provoked the Situation.* IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. She spent time in Prison but is up for Parole again in a couple years and will be out. Meanwhile Fred is Dead. It was not worth it at all. Her Adult Kids will have a Relationship with her.
Maybe I’m naive but what’s more shocking to me than the crime is how all of these murderers can so easily lie and feign innocence without any hesitation.
you're not naive. she's a psychopath. consider your shock a good sign. other docs told the story better of how she was a highly selfish and manipulative person her whole life. you can tell she sought out men to control.
Yep! That’s exactly what I thought! She lies so well and is so calm!
That’s what shocks me each time too. I watch these crime videos only to educate myself that not all the people are like me.
Same here. They just look dead in a person's eyes and lie like crazy and swear it true. And not even flinch.
Don't forget about their family who in the face of so much evidence still stand by their claim of innocence. I love each one of my sisters to death but if they were on trial and I saw that much conclusive evidence, I'd say sorry sis....I don't believe you.
She was a prosecutor how could she make so many mistakes leaving digital footprints EVERYWHERE 😮
She wasn't a a good prosecutor. She got fired!
She wasn’t very bright. That’s how she fell for a college professor who was 8 years older and wiser
the fact she was one is exactly whats wrong with texas
Many psychopaths secretly believe they are superior and are unable to picture themselves being outsmarted by other lesser beings.
Most have a God complex - and thank god bc this is how most are caught!
A great starter book is The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. Brilliant and an entertaining read.
She might have an abnormal prefrontal cortex, one function of which is predicting the consequences of one’s actions. Maybe she was a lousy prosecutor who could only analyze situations after they occurred.
The evidence is overwhelming. Why won't she just admit she did it?
Narcissists and sociopaths. Can't lose and can't admit they're wrong. Ever.
@@joez.2794sociopath is much too kind of word. Let's call her a psychopath. There is a difference. What's wrong with sharing your kids? They need both parents right? This woman is beyond depraved to come up with a plan to take the life of another.
I think she only saw this one way, to lie, for a life with her kids. She probably didn't see a chance if she admitted it.
never will , many wont with all the evidence in hand
Bc it wouldn’t benefit her and that is all psychopaths are about.
Another podcast I watched on this talked about how Piper kept getting fired from jobs. She was a drug addict and had trouble with drinking. Her husband worked very hard to try to get her better and even moved down to Texas for her to be close with her family.
That's interesting, I thought there maybe more to her when the judge gave the father sole custody of the kids.
Ohhh wow ! What podcast was that ?
@@mariastewart9820 Honestly, I forgot the name and I'm so sorry!
@@noelvoss6744 it's fine !
Hearsay
Yay! Thank you all for part 2. I remember this case being covered on the early seasons of snapped they didn’t give half as much detail as you all did. I learned a lot. Happy weekend everyone🤗
48 Hours has been the gold star of investigative shows for decades.
No evidence
@#JohnnyDeppIsRacist That case is closed. Too late buddy
@#JohnnyDeppIsRacist Her dog stepped on a bee. Megapint.
Snapped sucks at details
The mother is in complete denial. The two sisters being extremely close I’m pretty sure the sister knew piper was using her identity and was aware of her vicious plan all along.
She doesn’t deserve to see her children. She’s in the right place.
Absolutely.
And the sister in a grave
Obviously, it's their mother... but she's more flabbergasted than in denial at the end of it.
@@redacted2275 yea I think she is just shocked as a mother but she knows her daughter did it. She is not delusional nor in denial, she is just a mother
Nobody seems to talk about the mentally sadistic husband, who caused all this tragedy. Not physically, but his failure to be a real man precipitated what followed.
I hope the children were able to find some sense of peace and happiness in this horrible situation that their own mother caused. The judge that gave dad full custody sure called that right, wow!
Amen.
I dont understand how this wasnt even a topic anyways as evidence in this case questioning her state of mind. I have been through the system, some exes wanted me to look so bad in front of a judge - but I didnt.
Objection, not relevant?
The fact that she would allow her defense to implicate her sister just sealed it for me. If I was innocent and my lawyers told me that the only way to save myself was to throw my sister under the bus and say she did it I would be furious. I would fire them immediately,
She bought the plane ticket in her sister’s name and bought a blonde wig to pass as her sister. So she’s the one that initially tried implicating her sister.
It was her idea. Lawyers can't make up stories . She failed the bar exam because she is just plain dumb.
@@cavidawilliams811 exactly. That was her plan all along.
Obviously, nobody here understands how the legal system works! Pity.
Trying to create reasonable doubt
48 hours does the best coverage of these things 👍
This woman is very dangerous. Cold, calculating murderer. Never does she speak of her ex-husband or show sadness over his death. Instead she slanders him and even tries blaming her sister! Disgusting
I am on medication, but I still can cry, she make faces and no tears, she is no sorry, she is a psychopath or narcissist.
you do know that the interviews are highly edited and that the show is in control of questions and guides the conversation?
You mean ALL women....
The way he treated her he didn't deserve tears
@@adambane1719 so Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez were women ??
Yes, thank you 48 hrs. I searched everywhere for pt 2.
Saaaaame!!!! 😂
Yess
They got you hooked too? 😔
Me too, I was even going to pay to watch it, lol.
I actually watched part 1 twice thinking I had fallen asleep. It wasn't titled properly, just the one part, thought I was losing it as I kept hearing the same script. Couldn't have cared less who was the shooter when I finally hit on it. What a waste of time.
Whats important thing to notice is that 1st of all this lady was a prosecutor and I'm sure she thought she was being really smart ordering wigs and buying the ticket in their sister's name. She thought she could outsmart the law. Notice how she elevates her voice and pretends to be emotional yet. There's not a single tear. I have no doubt a hundred percent that this lady is guilty!
Exactly!
So it's NOT just me thinking this, I'm surprised more people didn't take notice on that. She only ever looked truly upset when she was playing her game on that stand
I like that sentencing was immediate. I hate when there’s a verdict, and then sentencing is scheduled months later. The justice system moves way too slowly most of the time.
Like in J. Assange's case where procrastination is part of the plan.
our justice system is designed to move somewhat slowly.. same for creating bills and laws.. you dont want to react within emotion and haste when crimes occur.. you want to be level headed and allow each person their defense (assumptive innocence) even tho some crimes are heinous and it's hard.. but you want to enforce the laws we hav already, not make a bunch of new ones frivolously and out of high emotion, bc that's how our Freedoms are lost..
also the reactions of witch hunting, the riled-up townsfolk running rabid with torches and pitchforks yelling "burn her..!" its just not effective justice..
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be very, very careful of those freedoms you giv away, for once they are gone, you will Never get them back..
well it is people's lives they deal with ,Clarisa
It is ridiculous that she stepped into the witness stand and lied that she did not do it, after she was clearly seen on surveillance cameras.
That was obviously the sister they caught in 4k
Some people suffer from severe denial to the point of believing their own lies. Piper is seriously mentally ill.
@@zacharywhite4448 Did you miss the part about wigs? It's even in the title 😂
It's mind blowing.
yeah, that did NOT look like her to me (thick nose and tan skin). but the show suggested it was her so it must be.
i think this show can persuade an audience in any direction they want then they read comments to know how well it worked
It was shocking to think of the hurt her children faced growing up without a mom or dad.
Its sad but like the saying goes when two Elefants fight the grass gets hurt.
@@mwendapoleee I haven’t heard that one. I like it. Perfectly describes custody battles
@Vlasko60 *EXACTLY! He escalated the Situation trying to be controlling.* He had the judge agree to a Psychiatrist evaluating both him and her to see who would be better. Supposedly Fred could use better Judgement based on the evaluation. That still doesn't make her a Bad Mom if someone else has better reasoning skills. Some wives are better at that than their Husbands. Still, both parents are fine. He made accusations that were used against her CLAIMING HE FEARED For the Children's Safety while with her, since she let them Cross a 4-lane highway alone. He just wanted Money and to take the Kids away.
For a former PROSECUTING attorney, it’s almost comical how stupid and sloppy she was with this crime. On top of that, to frame her own sister, that she was close with!? Now her children will also end up hating her for killing their father. What a loser.
as an even smarter individual it is comical regarding her sloppy steps.
as an even smarter person, we see this "show" is super manipulative. why do they waste time on the sisters relationship yet skip the facts around the justice system taking all parental rights away from the person that - the show admits- spent all their time with the children. why don't they show the fathers involvement prior to that case?
why don't they show either 1) why she was unfit and/or 2) the nasty tricky he played in court.
if they did then it would show that she had revenge in mind.
I wonder if the sisters conspired in advance (or even after the fact) about this.
With the moronic goal of creating doubt in a jury.
The older sister might’ve been quite comfortable with the fact that there would’ve been no proof tying her to the crime after her sister’s exoneration.
So maybe it was “go ahead sis it can’t hurt me.”
With their relationship I can’t imagine they didn’t share the plot from conception.
I also believe both sisters are psychopaths. They often have a god complex.
For them, the idea that they could be outwitted by lesser beings is unthinkable.
That’s why they can often leave normal people scratching their heads.
I don't think she framed her sister. I think the sisters planned it both together and the plan was to make it look like it might have been the other one and so create doubt in the jury. I'm glad it didn't work
Her sister conspired with her no doubt about it!!
The ones I feel so bad for are the children 😢.
Same here. They're the ones who suffer the most.
Not Fred?
Yes same here. The kids grew up seeing their mother in prison and the father at the cemetery. That has to do something to your head.
@@L1KECLOCKWORK he didn't deserve to die but he also wasn't innocent.
@@msaijay1153 I think you just hate men. There's no real evidence he was guilty of anything.
It's amazing to me how the mother can still believe her daughter is innocent when all of the evidence makes it so clear that she is guilty.
Shes crazy as well, in another way
I know right? My mom doesn’t believe I’m innocent of eating the last oreo. 😅
@@Rae_777🤣😂
Well it was one of em
@@Rae_777 No, but you put the empty milk container back in the fridge, didn't you? Ha Ha
She's a lawyer and she couldn't get custody of her children? and she was a prosecutor at one time? Yikes...
Says quite a lot about her character!
up against a sneaky one. did you see the book he wrote.
Shes got issues.
I don’t doubt the man wasn’t a creep to her during her divorce tho -
It’s crazy that desperation and rage could make someone so smart do something so incredibly stupid. It’s embarrassing to watch.
Emotions get the "worst" of folks.
It's because the husband was a failure of a man.
Yes! I was waiting for part two!!
Me too
We all were lol. A full 3 days later I might even need to go back and refresh parts of the 1st half 😅
Surprised this went to trial so quickly. Amazing she continues to maintain innocence with everything pointing to her.
Exactly…. If this was a man it would have been so ver long ago.
everybody has the legal right to a speedy trial. Some people waive that right. She knew it was best to not waive it as that could give them time to get more evidence. Some people waive it so they have more time for a better defence.
Her sister must have been in on it. She didn't mind the defence pointing the finger at her.
@@Douglas_Hamilton only because if there's reasonable doubt, they can't find her guilty and there's no evidence against her sister so they figured they could get away with it. They didn't realize what reasonable doubt was apparently.
She does that so she can appeal the sentence. She might get it converted to a lesser sentence somewhere down the line
2 wigs is why I clicked 😂
The third wig is at 13:53
@@jimwerther 😂😂😂
People perplex me with these ridiculous, lamebrain schemes. Children are important, but you can't be obsessed with them. They're the most important in a good parent's life, BUT, if your love for them makes you do something criminal causing you to be separated from them forever, you need to get that under control and STAY FREE. All kids grow up.
It wasn’t love for her children that drove her, it was her hatred for her husband and her desire to use the kids as a pawn in her hatred for him that drove her. Scumbags have pretty clear motivations, and love isn’t one of them.
@@myaominky That may be true, but we can't be sure what was in HER mind. Everybody's minds function and believe differently.
@@myaominky No. That's what drove Fred to fight to steal kids from their own mother.
Exactly. It's more like control. They have control issues and they know they are losing control of the only people who they can mold into what they want to have someone stick by them forever and always have someone who they have power over. Letting the kids grow up with their father was too much for her egotistical arrogant selfish disgusting person that she actually is.
I miss Harold Dow.
One of the greats. RIP
He was definitely one of the best for 48 hours. 👍
One of the best ever 💙
He was wonderful. Def. one of the greatest to do it!❤
Harold was indeed, one of a kind.
Those bank records are what sealed the deal for me...that, and Papa Johns order...and maybe the other 45 glaringly obvious clues she did it 😂
Lol def the papa johns order lol
Tina Roundtree should've gotten a LOT more than being charged with tampering with evidence and 9 months probation. Thee is no way that she wasn't more involved especially if as she said they would sleep in the same bed as adults. Just listening to her speak it's obvious that Piper wasn't going to do anything without the help of Tina.
I feel like Tina instigated it all
This. Well said.
What if she genuinely didn't know
It says at the end that she died in 2020, but I can't find an obituary or anything about it.
Especially since she was so cavalier about the defense strategy
The neighbor said it all. What in the world was she thinking?! You murdered a man and acted like it was nothing. Those kids will forever be changed.
EXACTLY! It was a vivid expression of how cold hearted & psychotic a murdering parent is. Other lives are taken as they knew it. 😢 She wasn’t murdered (thank God!)…but my mom died a tragic death when I was 10. I was just telling someone that my childhood ended and was decimated at age 10. Sad and tragic for those kids.
@@bygeorgina456 did you still have your dad? wondering if a child is possibly OK after losing their mom. my nieces lost their mom young.
@@bygeorgina456same! My dad died of cancer when I was 13. Blew my world off its axis forever. I'm now 67 😢
They were forever changed when their evil controlling father *fought* for full custody.
Well, he took custody from a sahm and acted like it was nothing.
Tina is culpable too. She kept Pipers hatred of Fred alive.
I agree. Tina hated Fred, and I'm sure she complained a lot to Piper. Tina seemed very cold and detached to me. I wonder what she died from. It was 2020, so maybe COVID? I can't even find a death notice or an obituary online.
No,she wasnt
So sad, it was obvious that she did it. I hope those children heal from this.
Did you know that? The convicted with life sentences never get parole if they do not admit guilt....I wonder if this is the case. She is guilty 100%.
The case is one of the best episodes of the SNAPPED series aired back in 2006.
R.I.P Harold Dow.
Can't be "reformed" if you never accept responsibility.
There’s no parole in Virginia anyway. They stopped that back in the 90’s.
@@ceciland18 knowing that, She should have pleaded guilty and cut a deal with the prosecution in order to give herself a chance at freedom.
@@ceciland18 At the end of the show it said she became eligible for parole in 2020.
@@ceciland18 ...then how come that Piper Rountree became eligible for parole in 2020 and that petition was denied?
So not only is she a homicidal sociopath who killed her ex, and then tried to frame her sister for the crime, but she is also unbelievably stupid. She left so many loose ends (purchase of the wigs and plane ticket on the credit card that could easily be traced back to her, an absurdly flimsy alibi, etc.). Did she really think that prosecutors wouldn't be able to track them all down?
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I never watch part 1 of any 2 parter till I see part 2 is listed..and that goes for all tv...was watching a 3 parter once and part 3 was never listed so learnt the hard way lol
Anyone who uses God as a crutch I know they're 100% guilty
Our politicians are using the God card all the time, lately. It is a disgrace to use God in defense of a crime.
If she would have turned to God instead of her sister, the marriage, husband and family may have been saved.
@@samvogel2368Amen!
This is just on time, I was waiting on when part 2 was gonna drop
Piper and her sister are so unlikeable and they can’t even see it.
Curious about what the courts saw in her to give her husband sole custody in the first place. Does anyone know what evidence there was even back then?
In part 1 they said he painted her as irresponsible she racked up 50k in debt, was acting unstable, and cheated on him 🥴 even tho friends said she was the main parent and the kids were always with her but remember he was a master in communication he knew how to win in court
@@nununicole9408 Also she's a cold-blooded killer. So there's that.
@@joez.2794 Right. But the question was why he was even giving custody in the first place..you know, BEFORE she killed him
@@nununicole9408 Just because she was the main parent and the kids were always with her, does not make her a GOOD parent.
Why would she get the kids? It’s 2023.
Hats off to Detectives for their awesome dedication to solve the case. Perpetrators will do anything and everything to save themselves. It is very clear that the sister was aware about everything, no wonder karma got to her. I also believe Professor was good human being, unlike the way both sisters tried to paint him. Professor being a professor, kept all the financial records of and evidence of his wife's wrong doings. RIP Professor.
I honestly think the sister came up with the plan. They figured reasonable doubt would win.
" I personally don't wear wigs!" LOL. The boyfriend
Was waiting for this! I'm not sure Im such a fan of cliffhangers!
Exactly. I’m too impatient 😅
Its 48hrs. Theyre guilty!!😂
@23:58 she said i HAD no right to take away the children's father!! I'm not the Judge or the Jury but to me that sounds like she admitted to killing him. Because she didn't say i HAVE no right to take away the children's father. Plus HAD is past tense! I FEEL for the kids.
Aha, bang on! Great observation.
Oh crap how did I miss that
Hey being a SINGLE MOTHER of two girls 19yr & 15yr gave me SPIDER SENSES!!🤣🤣🤣 #I HAVE ME EYES 👀 & EARS ON YOU!!🤣🤣
I heard that. It's called leakage.
Been waiting on this 2nd part! Thanks!😊
Jeez, Piper, were you _trying_ to get caught? Buy everything in cash, give fake names, and use a drop phone. This lady was a prosecutor, for gosh sakes! Should have known better.
She was a "prosecutor" in the same way her sister was a "doctor."
48 hours has always been such a great true crime show. Others are great; but 48 hours is the best. Harold Dow was so great. I can't think of another host who had the combination of cool voice and great interviewer. Why isn't there a location where CBS provides the entire catalog of episodes from the very beginning? I've looked at their website and app and it's not even close to complete. What's the deal? Does anybody know?
Early on 48 hours used to cover an event for 48 hours. Political campaign, hospital what have you. It then transitions into a crime show in the 90's and a full crime show in the late 2000's. I would think that's why the set of episodes are incomplete.
Thank you 48 Hours for an interesting documentary and sad story. Everybody loses.
Such an elaborate plan. That left a ton of clues all over it.
Great job detectives. Thanks for all of your hard work. Great job, Jury. Thank you for your service.
Great coverage of this case!!! It's good to hear the jurors reveal how they reached their verdict. Each case is like a jigsaw puzzle and the jury has to put the pieces together to reveal the whole picture.
She did her sister and her friend so wrong... Cool calm and collected on the witness stand. Evil just Evil my heart 💔💔💔 breaks for the 3 innocent children.
She murdered a great father…. Thats the real tragedy here.
Her sister was no victim. She’s an accomplice
Pretty sure her sister wasn’t blindsided. That was the story they came up with together in order to create reasonable doubt
A lawyer is the worst kind of witness to have on your side. Everyone knows lawyers = liars. 🤦🏻♂️
Lmao
I was literally thinking this
Funny you say this about lawyers! When one of my best friend’s 3 year old son was asked in preschool what does your daddy do, he said he’s a liar because he couldn’t say lawyer. We’ve laughed about that for a long time. 😂
Hence the joke- How do you know when a lawyer is lying? Ans: There mouth is open.
@@bbe3034 😂😂😂😂
If she wanted to take the stand, put her up there & question herself from there ! My Dr. use to say
Doctors treating doctors = lawyer representing lawyer.
They're arrogant Einstein's in their profession (So they THINK)! He said when he has those type of doctors as patients he just hands them his stethoscope & their chart then proceeds to walk out 🎤 ⬇️!!
As soon as I saw that CCTV footage, I started laughing hysterically. Despite being recorded on a Spudnitron 4000GX, I'd bet my entire right leg that was her. Not to mention, the copious amounts of tangible evidence shown at trial. I swear, I love dumb murderers, without their stupidity, justice might not get served.
After watching both episodes, I still really didn't want to believe it. But they certainly got it 💯 % right. It's really unfortunate...
Glad I waited for both parts to come out before watching! I would have been pishhhhed if I got invested in this case only to have to wait for the other half lol. The internet has broken my brain.
Same here!
I watched the first one by accident when it came up in my feed, so I had to wait. 😳
Man, there was nothing like throwing your sister under the bus.
That was the only bus pretty much passing her way so she decided to take it
like casey anthony saying her dad raped her , sickos
Narcicists never care who they hurt.She knew her sister never liked the man and decided to use that to her advantage. Very shameful.
Her sister was in on it
And Tina didn’t care…. Tina was in on it…
She killed her ex-husband. She had to lie many times, and she did, every time she needed to. She is a great liar. We see that her lies weren't good enough for the investigators not to disprove them. The combination of her faulty lies and her being a murderer truly goes against her being an honest and decent person. She should have questioned her own intelligence and her ethics, but her ego got the best of her. And ain't that the story with all criminals? She, her mother and her sister really need to "go back to the drawing board" for the sake of truly getting to know themselves and each other, in addition to understanding how and/or why they each or all "took very wrong turns" in life.
HER SISTER DIED 2020.
48 hours is the best ❤
A great example of murderers who are evil and stupid
I knew Tina was innocent and Piper was the murderer. Tina is brutally honest and expressive so she speaks out while Piper bottles up rage.She is/was the ticking time bomb
They're like the same person, please
Question though: How could Piper get on a plane with a ticket in Tina's name? Wouldn't she have to have Tina's ID?
Piper in particular is such an evil manipulative woman. Even invoking God and prayers and dangling crosses around her neck. She murdered Fred in cold blood without once considering that her children might want to have their father, too. Like the selfish toxic vindictive B she is, she gunned down the poor man. She, the once hot shot lawyer who once had everyone wrapped around her finger with her whimpering sympathetic eyes and southern girl charm was finally put in her place by a man she couldn't charm into submission. I would love to hear the children's perspective on their mother AND their aunt (Tina), who at the very least I'm sure didn't help and may have encouraged Piper to knock off her ex. Disgusting.
Finally!!!!!!! PART 2🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wait wait wait. I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty darn sure nobody has "a constitutional right" to their children. Dumbest thing I've ever heard a lawyer say.
That line was a bit odd to me. Abusive parents and neglectful parents don’t have a constitutional right to their children.
The constitution says nothing about which parent gets custody of kids after a divorce.
@@jenniferhorstmann2279 Exactly
I think losing the custody battle, having to pay child support and losing her job drove her over the edge. She is guilty‼️
Yep, every man has a breaking point.
Make divorce rare again, and this BS stops.
She had a job (TX attorney).
She has no conscience and simply didn’t want to pay him child support and wanted to reclaim her property: the children - that’s how they view their own children.
@@elsie6828 How do you do that?
@Which god of thousands means nothing Change the culture, entirely. This happens over the course of generations. If we have ruined our society in 100 years, we can fix it in 100 years.
So glad to see this part uploaded! Thank you
Speaking of wigs, the _real_ crime can be seen at 13:53.
😂
Just started watching and just got it(I think). 1 wig for sister to wear to the bar pretending to be Piper for the alibi, and then Piper wearing a wig off the plane/traveling.
Edit: just finished, nevermind. What's the point of titling it "two wigs" when the 2nd wig wasn't a big peice of the story?
Might as well called it "2 women, a plan, and a muder"
Kinda crazy they announce the jurors’ names for all to hear
You might have an “ Incredible amount of Faith” but they have an “Incredible amount of Evidence “🤣🤣
Whew. That was terrible. At first I was sure she didn’t do it. They planned it out and was firm in their beliefs.
But she did it.
I hope the children are healing and doing well in life.
I didn't need to see part 2 to know she was guilty. How u were so sure at first she didn't do it beggars belief.
“I personally don’t wear wigs.” 🤣
That poor Texas guy was used like a pawn.
If someone set her up, they did a thorough job.
Nobody set her up 😂
The crossed-eyed brother set her up.
Definitely not the best idea to get your children back. Bad move🙄 I understand how devastated she must have been when she lost custody for her children, but how did she think getting rid of him would actually solve the problem???
She didn’t think well
I mean *technically* she did solve the problem. The fact that she would make MUCH WORSE problems for herself and not to mention others (Her ex??? Their kids????) was apparently not the first consequence to come to mind.
Why would her sister Tina not be extremely upset with practically being thrown under the bus by her sister and the defense? That seems really weird to me.
Because she was in on it.
Tina was a manipulator. Let your lawyer cast speculation it was me, when EVERYBODY knew there was absolutely zero evidence, but it would hopefully cast doubt with the jury to gain an acquittal. That wasn't a gamble, that was the plan!
because she wouldn't be prosecuted for it.
If the card was opened for his “friend’s” benefit, and her money, why was he trying to get money out of the account?
Thank you!
Out of all the 48 Hours specials I saw, this was the quickest the jury deliberated.
I'm guessing that this would not have happened with shared custody
That doesn't happen by accident. She also had a good job and that ended somehow. Betting there's another story there.
@@gpwcowboy what job ended without an explanation?
@@msaijay1153 She was fired from her "assistant prosecutor" job after 1 year.
it also would not have happened if she wasnt a cold calculated murderer
@@Razormiller hmmm good point
I couldn’t resist this one I’m so happy I caught pt2.
Finally part 2!
Insidious woman. She is sickening
Dang she threw her sister under the bus
Thank you, wonderful story!!!!!
"I was very sad about the whole thing hearing how someone with such a high level of an education could have plotted such an event." ~Victim's Brother As if only people without an education or a lower education level than an attorney plot and commit crimes.
She should have been sentenced to another life sentence for psychologically and emotionally destroying her own children's lives and leaving them without either parent. Despicable!
Justice was served but I don't understand why she was up for parole in 2020, thought she got a full life tariff, but karma got her and her cocky sister, I just want to say we miss you harold dow your a LEGEND all over the world and as an IRISH man I'd like to say we miss you everytime we watch replays, LOVE FROM IRELAND TO 48 HOURS AND THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING, BLESS YOU ALL ❤🙏💚☘🇮🇪🙏
Life and life without chance of parole are different sentences unfortunately.
Guilty!!! Everyone recognized her!!!!! We feel for the children ❤
Guys... If you are thinking about murdering your ex, you can just walk away. Its that simple.
How could anyone hire a lawyer this stupid to be a public prosecuting attorney?
The husband had it coming. Nobody deserves to die, but he used his skills to take away everything from her. She had nothing to lose. People with nothing to lose are the most dangerous people.
zero tears at the Jail Interview
"I had no right to take my children's father away" (paraphrased) sounds a lot more like a confession than a plea of innocence. I know it's framed as a counterfactual, "I wouldn't have done this because [reasons]" sort of thing, but man that comes off weird in the wording.
That was some good investigative work