@@gordonjohnston684 I'm no expert, but from what I've learned so far, the more glasses you have in between the light source and the camera sensor, the image quality will start dropping. But if you've spent a generous amount on quality glasses, then one extra glass shouldn't have that much of a quality impact, depending on the resolution you're going for. I hope that answers your question.
I did an experiment with light leakage and I've just realised I forgot to add it to the video DOH! :) Throughout the video, I was experimenting by covering up the eyepiece every other shot. I only noticed a little bit of light leaking onto just one picture. The sun was shining directly onto the back of the camera during a 4 minutes exposure. My advice would be to cover it up. I used a black hat throughout the day and it worked a treat!
Gary I did a 35 minute exposure with a 15 stop, some times if the sun is side on it can give you a light leak . So I clip a cloth around the filter edge , and close the viewfinder of course
I believe it also partly depends on the design of the OVF. My Nikon D3200 is a pentamirror (never any leak issues - or at least I didn't experience any) whereas my D7100 is a pentaprism (much more likely to have leak issues). I'm forever bloody forgetting to cover my D7100's viewfinder
I was just about to comment on covering the eyepiece as I've had many shots ruined due to light leakage. As per your comment the majority have been ok, I have found light reflecting off of objects behind the camera even once including a white tee shirt can be enough to cause an issue.
I usually use the little eyepiece cover that comes with the Canon strap. Is that what you call a "black hat"? Another source of light leakage could be the filter holder. Screw-on ND filters eliminate that possibility. Whatever you're using, you have some beautiful shots here.
Gary as usual great informative video. One thing people forget I didn't hear mention is about stabilisation. When possible I have the stabilisation off.. But on windy days I have the stabilisation on... From what I have been told and please don't take this as truth.. When stabilisation is on when not needed.. If actually blurs the photo.... and I was told this is because of the movement of the so called giro thinking that it needs to move and causes vibration that blurs the image slightly...
That info is right Peter but only certain lenses struggle with vibration. My Canon Pro lenses don't react like that. That's probably why I forgot to mention it. 👍
I already own a 3, 6, 10, & 15 stop in ND filter. I find them invaluable because sometimes I am just too tired to get a summer's evening sunset when I go up at 3:30am to make sure I get out to get the sunrise. 🙂
This is exactly what the filter is meant for. I want to purchase this particular filter in due time, because the images at the end of the video are exactly what I want to pursue. I just have to find those places. Great video!!!
Great Vlog Gary. I am glad I'm not the only one to have bought the Lee super stopper and as you say great for those bright sunny days which would leave most cameras still in the bag.
As always thanks for sharing. Something interesting - I have the Nisi V5 pro and one of their graduated filters. I came across a great buy on a Lee 100mm 10 stop. Tried it and found i could see light through the top and bottom without mounting on lens!!!!! I contacted Nisi since they advertised ANY 100 mm filters work. After multiple emails it was "well" it maybe Lee. Long story short I purchased Nisi foam replacement for the Lee and guess what it didn't work. Contacted them again with the results - said V7 solved the light leaking problem. Don't know if anyone else discovered this issue on the V 5 pro or 6. Note that with the CPL mounted their was no issue
Great video, Gary. Many thanks. I've got the 6 stop and the 15 and very happy with both, particularly for doing cityscape long exposure during the middle of the day!
Nice Gary, I have a 10 Stopper and I think I'll be purchasing a 15 Stopper as most of the time I wait for the light at Sunrise or Sunset. Great Vlog as usual mate! 👍
I use a 16 stop filter for during the day for my architecture images and as you said Gary it offers the option of getting out when the light can sometimes be harsh
I am a fan of the long exposure image, I have the 6 & 10 stop filters and I’ve use the 6+10 stop (=16 stops) to achieve the same result, it does take some tweaking though. I use the Lee calculator for the 6 & 10 but use the LExp from ILYA GENKIN PHOTOGRAPHY for the combined calculation. This calculator has a function that calculates to time if using x2 filters. I has saved me from spending $300 AU (£165.00)Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺👍🏻
Hi Phil. I tried stacking my 6 and 10 stop filters... and my photos appeared soft. Perhaps my calculation on the exposure was wrong? Or was the softness caused by stacking filters, which could cause refraction? What happens if you stacked 2 ND filters, and you still had polarizer and grad ND... would multiple stack degrade the photo? Are there any disadvantages when you stack multiple filters?
I've decided to order a 15 stop Lee filter because i like to get out on a sunny day to take photographs and a 10 stop filter just wouldn't give me enough time for a long exposure shot, incidently the Lee Filters App also has a timer that corresponds with the chosen timing that the App recommends. Great video, thank you for uploading.
As a long exposure junkie a 15 stop NiSi filter is a keeper in my bag. I usually love to do long exposure when its cloudy and gloomy if I’m patient the clouds will open up a little to allow the light to streak down.
I didn't think it got sunny enough in the North to justify using a 15 stop filter!! Love the effect it can give and if you're restricted on lighting conditions or having to shoot in the midday sun then this is the ideal solution.
Great video Gary, I bought the 15stop early this year, but because of shielding I havnt had the chance to use it, so I found your experiment very interesting. I am now very eager to get out and about :)
I got a few long exposers at the same place, Dovercourt and Harwich looking out Felixstowe is one of the best coastal locations in north Essex. Greats shots 👍
I shoot a fair few seascapes and found the 15 stop essential, now own 3, 6, 10 & 15 stop ND's. I only used the 10 & 15 stop on large bodies of water such as lakes and sea. Also find the 15 stop very useful for getting rid of people walking through busy scenes where waiting for no people is not an option.
Wonderful and informative video, Gary! I’ve been thinking about purchasing an ND filter for some time. I was always a little unsure about whether to get hold of a 10 stop or a 15 stop filter however. Your video convinces me though; a 15 stop ND filter is definitely on the bucket list. Thanks!
I do like taking long exposures but not to the extent of buying a 15 stop when I've got a perfectly good combo of a 10 and a 6. The number of times that I can think of when I would need more than one ND Grad as well as the two stoppers in is so few that its just not worth the investment. Still, it's worth bearing in mind for future so thanks for this Gary.
Nice one Gary. On the straight out of camera shot the colour looked pretty good so it looks like they have fixed the colour cast problem like my 10 stopper has. Also did you know that the Canon camera strap comes with a rubber thing that covers the eyepiece, you just unclip the rubber eyepiece cover and slide it on.
Got a set of Gobe filters around the time I got my camera with a 10stop & 3stop I plan to try stacking at some point. Love to give long exposures a go but don’t actually have a tripod yet haha, other than a tiny gorilla pod anyway. Got the LExp app at the ready when I finally do which seems great, loads of tools and stacking calc! Cheers Gary!
Bit on the pricy side for the average amatuer photographer but fantastic results. I use the 10 stop its OK for most of my photos. Thanks for the video. 👍👍
I have a Haida 15 stop filter but I find that it behaves more like a 15 3/4 or even 16 stop when I compare the test shot with the filtered one. I love it, too; no color cast at all. However, I use another ND calculator that I find more flexible than Lee's, because it allows me to stack several filters of different densities. It's the Exposure Calculator by Quicosoft (free on the Google Play store).
My Big Stopper is a little like yours, it behaves in a similar way. I think they guarantee their acuracy to within one stop. It's just about getting to know your equipment I guess. Cheers
@@GaryGough Totally, and I actually don't mind if it's a bit darker because you can expose a little longer; when it's not dark enough you have less (or no) options.
I've just been looking in to getting my first ND filters for my Canon 80D. I've had them for my past cameras and I do love the magic of producing long exposures, but they needed smaller filters and I only bought Hoya ones for them. So I thought I'd look for some decent ones for my Canon that don't make strange colour casts. I found a lot of great reviews for Nisi filters. Having looked at their website, wanting a 10 stop filter mainly, I also saw they do a 15 stop filter, which strangely is the same price as the 10 stop. Though that could be the black Friday deal on them. Trouble is, I want 77mm ones and they are run out of 10 stop ones of those and I wanted to get both together. Looks like I'm going to have to wait till the last day of the black Friday to see if they are back in stock, or I will just be buying the 15 stop. 😬☹
I was going to ask about light leakage through the view finder but I'm guessing that last bit covers it. All I've got at this point is a super cheap 77mm screw in 10 stop and a couple step down rings so I have to stack and blend images when it gets too bright or dark.
I own one Gary but have only used a couple of times as I tend to shoot early mornings mostly and also prefer grey days over bright sunny days so not really required for me, but as I say there have been one or two occasions. Anyway good vid, thanks for sharing👍👍
Cheers Ant. I actually did an experiment with light leakage and I've just realised I forgot to add it to the video :) My camera doesn't suffer from light leakage. I did, however, notice a little bit when the sun was really bright. I'm assuming the leakage came from the eyepiece. How do you get on with light leakage?
@@GaryGough had a few light leakage issues with the d810 when shooting on the few occasions mentioned above, the light was so bright that I had trouble viewing the image on back of camera so difficult to see any problems until returning home and uploading to computer! The d810 had a switch at the back to close off the eyepiece which helped most of the time. I have no such problem with the mirroless system👍 also the evf is fantastic for viewing composition pre shot and reviewing image post shot during bright conditions so I would say a must if shooting in bright conditions on a regular basis (although Dslr users could always use a Hoodman loupe I guess)
If you like what you get with 10 stops.... your going to love 20 stops. Get a extra battery if you go really long ... 8 minutes of open shutter eats them up. I shot Manhattan NYC across the river ( tons of boats ) with 20 stops and made all the boats disappear... including a massive barge that went up river
Nice to see you again Gary. Really like how you achieve the "skating rink" as you call it. Turns out so nice. I was expecting the the image right out of camera to be darker for some reason....think I confused the 15 stop with the soft grad. Duh me! I need to invest in some filters. I currently have a 10stp circular filter - not really cutting it though.
Thank you for this tutorial, when I bought the 10 stop filter and tried it out, kit produced a very color noise spots, some said because the exposure was too long. I had it at 60 sec, then hoe you can make good photos at mote then 60 sec with so good quality.Thank you
Great vlog Gary. Really interesting results in the middle of the day, really no excuses anymore for not producing quality images at whatever time of day. Enjoy all of your content & thanks for providing inspiration for me & many others to grab the camera, get out & shoot!
Thanks for the wonderful overview. I won(!) a 15-stop from Lee in a contest a few years ago - and like you noted, it is kind of helpful to capture interesting images in brightly lit sunny days. Re: chomping in bright conditions - I picked up a Hoodman Outdoor Loupe for such things. I allows one a great view of your LCD even in bright conditions, its small, light, and has a means to hang around your neck so easy access. Have you ever compared the results from stacking (say) a 6+10 stop pair of NDs to see if there are any negative effects as compared to using a single dark ND (15-stop)?
Absolutely brilliant! It’s on my list. Now I’m stacking 10-stops and 3- and 6-stops but the results are not quite satisfying. I use Nisi, by the way...
2 Questions on Filters: 1. Is it a better idea to just own the 15 stop, and/or maybe a 6 stop, if I typically shoot during the day (ie. not sunrise/sunset) 2. Is the effect of using a 6 stop + a 10 stop together the same as using a 15 stop? Some filter brands allow one to stack or screw one on top of the other. Total filter noob here, just about to get into buying filters. Thank you for reading!
Hi Dennis. I only use a 6 + 10 stop filter. The more glass the more degradation on the picture. The amount of quality loss will depend pn the quality of glass of course. Some people combine they have no issues. Tough call :)
Gary I have always admired your long exposures, but really struggle with them, I have a couple of videos coming up where I try to capture a long exposure I have been after, without giving too much away I am going out tomorrow to try again. I use the Zomei that you suggested in a previous video, but this 15 stop looks amazing, thanks again for sharing.
I like those effects, in fact this morning I was trying to achieve it with a field of long grass waving in the wind. Unfortunately I didn't have enough Nd stops. I'll try again tomorrow and try the 5 stop Nd in my Olympus as an addition to the external filters. Stay safe.
Got a couple of 3/6/10 stop filter sets (square Rollei, Round Haida) - I figure the combo 10 and 3 or 6 will get me close enough most of the time. I think I might have been stacking all 3 of the round ones at a single occasion.
What if you used a 10stop and a 6stop together. Would this work as I don't have a 15 stop. Love your videos. I don't watch anyone else but you now. Cheers
Interesting video even of the clouds didn't serve you well. Had a Lee 10 stop filter for a number of years. Colour cast has always been a problem on colour images. Do you take any steps on colour correction in-camera or post processing? How does the 15 stop compare to the 10 stop filter?
You have to buy a filter kit that fits the diameter of your lens. If all of your lenses are the same diameter then you're quids in :) Most filter providers offer different adapters for different sized lenses though. Hope this helps
I have just purchased a LEE Big Stopper to with my Little Stopper.. Can you recomend 4 ND grad filters ( Budget allowance ) for sea/land scape, I shoot on a APS-C Canon.I already have a .6 hard grad Now I need to find time to experiment..lol
Hi Gary , very informative and well presented vlog as usual ( think I watch your video's more than the telly these days ! ) . I don't have a 15 stop filter but I do have the Lee mount system with a 10 and 6 stopper , could I stack them together to achieve similar effect ?
@@GaryGough Thanks Gary , they are both Lee filters . Wish I'd given them a try last week when I made poor effort shooting a long exposure at Hornsea in bright sun using just the 10 stopper. Ohhhhhhhh well , more thought required .
Gary, what your thoughts about circular ND filters like Freewell or Kase ones? (also do you know about magnetic filters that ease shooting and are lightweight?)
Hi Gary, I really like the effect but at this current moment in time a top quality filter is beyond my reach. One day when/if funds allow I will get one, for the time being there's lots of other styles of picture to capture so I will concentrate on those. I guess that's a part of what makes photography so interesting cheerio, Del.
The more glass the more degradation on the picture. The amount of quality loss will depend pn the quality of glass of course. Try combining them, if you're happy with the results then you're good to go :)
Got my 15 stop today. Looking forward to trying it. Love your videos.
6 stops & 10 stops combined have served me well . Undecided weather I need 15 stop
If your current combi works then stick with it :)
@@GaryGough IS THERE ANY TECHNICAL REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T USE A 10 AND 6 STOP LEE FILTERS? DOES IT AFFECT THE QUALITY?
@@gordonjohnston684 I'm no expert, but from what I've learned so far, the more glasses you have in between the light source and the camera sensor, the image quality will start dropping. But if you've spent a generous amount on quality glasses, then one extra glass shouldn't have that much of a quality impact, depending on the resolution you're going for. I hope that answers your question.
Great Gary, very inspirational thanks
Cheers
I have the 6, 10 & 15 stop Nisi ND filters. Love them all, but really love the 10 & 15.
Cheers Geoff
Brief and solid class, Gary. Thanks
Thank you
I did an experiment with light leakage and I've just realised I forgot to add it to the video DOH! :)
Throughout the video, I was experimenting by covering up the eyepiece every other shot. I only noticed a little bit of light leaking onto just one picture. The sun was shining directly onto the back of the camera during a 4 minutes exposure. My advice would be to cover it up. I used a black hat throughout the day and it worked a treat!
Gary I did a 35 minute exposure with a 15 stop, some times if the sun is side on it can give you a light leak . So I clip a cloth around the filter edge , and close the viewfinder of course
I believe it also partly depends on the design of the OVF. My Nikon D3200 is a pentamirror (never any leak issues - or at least I didn't experience any) whereas my D7100 is a pentaprism (much more likely to have leak issues). I'm forever bloody forgetting to cover my D7100's viewfinder
I was just about to comment on covering the eyepiece as I've had many shots ruined due to light leakage. As per your comment the majority have been ok, I have found light reflecting off of objects behind the camera even once including a white tee shirt can be enough to cause an issue.
I usually use the little eyepiece cover that comes with the Canon strap. Is that what you call a "black hat"?
Another source of light leakage could be the filter holder. Screw-on ND filters eliminate that possibility.
Whatever you're using, you have some beautiful shots here.
@@davidpearce2981 35 minutes in one click ? didn't you get shake?
Gary as usual great informative video. One thing people forget I didn't hear mention is about stabilisation. When possible I have the stabilisation off.. But on windy days I have the stabilisation on... From what I have been told and please don't take this as truth.. When stabilisation is on when not needed.. If actually blurs the photo.... and I was told this is because of the movement of the so called giro thinking that it needs to move and causes vibration that blurs the image slightly...
That info is right Peter but only certain lenses struggle with vibration. My Canon Pro lenses don't react like that. That's probably why I forgot to mention it. 👍
Great video Gary. I tend to use mine quite a bit as well especially around water.
Cheers Rob 👍
My 15 stop arrived today.. Thanks for some great advice in your videos.
Love your work Gary. You explain everything so simply.
Thank you kindly
I already own a 3, 6, 10, & 15 stop in ND filter. I find them invaluable because sometimes I am just too tired to get a summer's evening sunset when I go up at 3:30am to make sure I get out to get the sunrise. 🙂
Thanks Gary for the very informative video.
No worries 👍
This is exactly what the filter is meant for. I want to purchase this particular filter in due time, because the images at the end of the video are exactly what I want to pursue. I just have to find those places. Great video!!!
Cheers Alan
Stunning work. I have 15 stops plus. I have stacked to 20 stops with stunning results.
Great Vlog Gary. I am glad I'm not the only one to have bought the Lee super stopper and as you say great for those bright sunny days which would leave most cameras still in the bag.
Well worth watching. Images look great.👍
Thanks 👍
Garry, well done. I have 10 stop and use it quite often.
Cheers
I love your work and I also love this type of photography JUST LOVE IT
Thank you very much!
As always thanks for sharing.
Something interesting - I have the Nisi V5 pro and one of their graduated filters. I came across a great buy on a Lee 100mm 10 stop. Tried it and found i could see light through the top and bottom without mounting on lens!!!!! I contacted Nisi since they advertised ANY 100 mm filters work. After multiple emails it was "well" it maybe Lee.
Long story short I purchased Nisi foam replacement for the Lee and guess what it didn't work.
Contacted them again with the results - said V7 solved the light leaking problem.
Don't know if anyone else discovered this issue on the V 5 pro or 6.
Note that with the CPL mounted their was no issue
Certainly would consider buying one now after seeing this video, it would seem to be a good filter to add to my kit.
Cheers Kevin 👍👍
Great video, Gary. Many thanks. I've got the 6 stop and the 15 and very happy with both, particularly for doing cityscape long exposure during the middle of the day!
Cheers Matt
Brilliant Gary and I’m like you and love the effects you get from long exposures 👍🏽 Look forward to seeing more from you.
Cheers Steve
Nice one Gary... really enjoyed this one.
Many thanks
I might try combining my 6 and 10 stop filters and I like the results I will probably put it on my "to get" list. I liked your photos using a 15 stop.
Cheers
Nice Gary, I have a 10 Stopper and I think I'll be purchasing a 15 Stopper as most of the time I wait for the light at Sunrise or Sunset. Great Vlog as usual mate! 👍
Cheers John
I definitely will buy this filter, love long exposures. Thanks for the great videos 😊👍
My pleasure!
Liked your vlog Gary I to like like smooth water and streaky skies, nice to see you down my neck of the woods too. look forward to your next vlog.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent video tutorial! Love this atmosphere! Thank you very much!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video and tip on the Lee Filter app.
I use a 16 stop filter for during the day for my architecture images and as you said Gary it offers the option of getting out when the light can sometimes be harsh
Another good video Gary. Thanks.
Very welcome
Great video Gary, and great images. I do like doing this type of photography.
Thanks 👍
I am a fan of the long exposure image, I have the 6 & 10 stop filters and I’ve use the 6+10 stop (=16 stops) to achieve the same result, it does take some tweaking though. I use the Lee calculator for the 6 & 10 but use the LExp from ILYA GENKIN PHOTOGRAPHY for the combined calculation. This calculator has a function that calculates to time if using x2 filters. I has saved me from spending $300 AU (£165.00)Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺👍🏻
Cheers Phil 👍👍
Hi Phil. I tried stacking my 6 and 10 stop filters... and my photos appeared soft. Perhaps my calculation on the exposure was wrong? Or was the softness caused by stacking filters, which could cause refraction? What happens if you stacked 2 ND filters, and you still had polarizer and grad ND... would multiple stack degrade the photo? Are there any disadvantages when you stack multiple filters?
Great vlog Gary. I own a 15 stop filter made by Haida and I love it.
Nice 👍
Simply beautiful
I've decided to order a 15 stop Lee filter because i like to get out on a sunny day to take photographs and a 10 stop filter just wouldn't give me enough time for a long exposure shot, incidently the Lee Filters App also has a timer that corresponds with the chosen timing that the App recommends. Great video, thank you for uploading.
Cheers Simon 👍
Very good video, well done, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Great video Gary. I use the 10 stop filter and would definitely look into getting the bigger 15 after watching this. Thanks.
I have a 15 stop Kate filter but have had mixed results need to perceiver I think cheers Gary
As a long exposure junkie a 15 stop NiSi filter is a keeper in my bag. I usually love to do long exposure when its cloudy and gloomy if I’m patient the clouds will open up a little to allow the light to streak down.
Great tutorial Gary!
Thank you kindly
I didn't think it got sunny enough in the North to justify using a 15 stop filter!! Love the effect it can give and if you're restricted on lighting conditions or having to shoot in the midday sun then this is the ideal solution.
lol I was surprised too 😁😁 Cheers Nick
Great video Gary, I bought the 15stop early this year, but because of shielding I havnt had the chance to use it, so I found your experiment very interesting. I am now very eager to get out and about :)
Glad I could help
I really like your black and white photos. Do you have a video of how you edit your photos to black and white? Great video.
Cheers Roger. Watch todays video about using your flash creatively. I explain how I create my B&W's in Photoshop. Hope that helps
I got a few long exposers at the same place, Dovercourt and Harwich looking out Felixstowe is one of the best coastal locations in north Essex. Greats shots 👍
I shoot a fair few seascapes and found the 15 stop essential, now own 3, 6, 10 & 15 stop ND's. I only used the 10 & 15 stop on large bodies of water such as lakes and sea. Also find the 15 stop very useful for getting rid of people walking through busy scenes where waiting for no people is not an option.
Your pictures it’s phenomenal
Wonderful and informative video, Gary! I’ve been thinking about purchasing an ND filter for some time. I was always a little unsure about whether to get hold of a 10 stop or a 15 stop filter however. Your video convinces me though; a 15 stop ND filter is definitely on the bucket list. Thanks!
They both have their pro's and con's. I seem to be using my 15 stopper more and more these days though
I do like taking long exposures but not to the extent of buying a 15 stop when I've got a perfectly good combo of a 10 and a 6. The number of times that I can think of when I would need more than one ND Grad as well as the two stoppers in is so few that its just not worth the investment. Still, it's worth bearing in mind for future so thanks for this Gary.
Agree totally Alasdair. I'm using mine more and more these days though. Horses for courses and all that :) Cheers
Nice one Gary. On the straight out of camera shot the colour looked pretty good so it looks like they have fixed the colour cast problem like my 10 stopper has. Also did you know that the Canon camera strap comes with a rubber thing that covers the eyepiece, you just unclip the rubber eyepiece cover and slide it on.
Mine still offers a very slight blue colour cast but I quite like it. I lost my eyepiece cover a long time ago :)
Great test Gary , I love the smooth water and some but not all cloud movement. I have a 10 stop but would definitely think about the 15 .
Thanks .
Got a set of Gobe filters around the time I got my camera with a 10stop & 3stop I plan to try stacking at some point. Love to give long exposures a go but don’t actually have a tripod yet haha, other than a tiny gorilla pod anyway. Got the LExp app at the ready when I finally do which seems great, loads of tools and stacking calc! Cheers Gary!
Cheers Dan 👍
I have a cheap 10 stop filter. I’m going to get to the ocean this weekend and have a crack. Great video.
Nice 👍
Bit on the pricy side for the average amatuer photographer but fantastic results.
I use the 10 stop its OK for most of my photos. Thanks for the video. 👍👍
I have a Haida 15 stop filter but I find that it behaves more like a 15 3/4 or even 16 stop when I compare the test shot with the filtered one. I love it, too; no color cast at all. However, I use another ND calculator that I find more flexible than Lee's, because it allows me to stack several filters of different densities. It's the Exposure Calculator by Quicosoft (free on the Google Play store).
My Big Stopper is a little like yours, it behaves in a similar way. I think they guarantee their acuracy to within one stop. It's just about getting to know your equipment I guess. Cheers
@@GaryGough Totally, and I actually don't mind if it's a bit darker because you can expose a little longer; when it's not dark enough you have less (or no) options.
I've just been looking in to getting my first ND filters for my Canon 80D. I've had them for my past cameras and I do love the magic of producing long exposures, but they needed smaller filters and I only bought Hoya ones for them. So I thought I'd look for some decent ones for my Canon that don't make strange colour casts. I found a lot of great reviews for Nisi filters. Having looked at their website, wanting a 10 stop filter mainly, I also saw they do a 15 stop filter, which strangely is the same price as the 10 stop. Though that could be the black Friday deal on them. Trouble is, I want 77mm ones and they are run out of 10 stop ones of those and I wanted to get both together. Looks like I'm going to have to wait till the last day of the black Friday to see if they are back in stock, or I will just be buying the 15 stop. 😬☹
I suppose you could you put the 10 + 6 stop in the holder together & achieve similar results, but all good fun. Thanks Gary.
I was just thinking the same, however, if you have only 2 filter slots you can`t use the grad (if needed)..
Yea you could, but using less glass in front of your elements the better at the end of the day.
Brilliant as always!
I use the combination of the 6&10 stop filter to achieve the same result, saves some serious cash 💰👍🏻🇦🇺
I was going to ask about light leakage through the view finder but I'm guessing that last bit covers it. All I've got at this point is a super cheap 77mm screw in 10 stop and a couple step down rings so I have to stack and blend images when it gets too bright or dark.
They will work just as good 👍👍
I own one Gary but have only used a couple of times as I tend to shoot early mornings mostly and also prefer grey days over bright sunny days so not really required for me, but as I say there have been one or two occasions. Anyway good vid, thanks for sharing👍👍
Cheers Ant. I actually did an experiment with light leakage and I've just realised I forgot to add it to the video :)
My camera doesn't suffer from light leakage. I did, however, notice a little bit when the sun was really bright. I'm assuming the leakage came from the eyepiece. How do you get on with light leakage?
@@GaryGough had a few light leakage issues with the d810 when shooting on the few occasions mentioned above, the light was so bright that I had trouble viewing the image on back of camera so difficult to see any problems until returning home and uploading to computer! The d810 had a switch at the back to close off the eyepiece which helped most of the time.
I have no such problem with the mirroless system👍 also the evf is fantastic for viewing composition pre shot and reviewing image post shot during bright conditions so I would say a must if shooting in bright conditions on a regular basis (although Dslr users could always use a Hoodman loupe I guess)
Hi Gary, top vlog again, I have a 10 stop filter, is it worth me getting a 15 stop, love the pics
If you like what you get with 10 stops.... your going to love 20 stops. Get a extra battery if you go really long ... 8 minutes of open shutter eats them up. I shot Manhattan NYC across the river ( tons of boats ) with 20 stops and made all the boats disappear... including a massive barge that went up river
Hi Joe, They're worth it if you want to achieve really long shutter speeds during bright days.
Thanks @@GaryGough
Gary congrats for this another long and perfect long exposures shots. I'm glad you comeback with this billiant type of videos. Regards
I think it will be on my list to get
Cheers Simo
Nice to see you again Gary. Really like how you achieve the "skating rink" as you call it. Turns out so nice. I was expecting the the image right out of camera to be darker for some reason....think I confused the 15 stop with the soft grad. Duh me! I need to invest in some filters. I currently have a 10stp circular filter - not really cutting it though.
Invest you won't regret it. Thanks 👍
nicely done
Thanks!
Thank you for this tutorial, when I bought the 10 stop filter and tried it out, kit produced a very color noise spots, some said because the exposure was too long. I had it at 60 sec, then hoe you can make good photos at mote then 60 sec with so good quality.Thank you
Great vlog Gary. Really interesting results in the middle of the day, really no excuses anymore for not producing quality images at whatever time of day. Enjoy all of your content & thanks for providing inspiration for me & many others to grab the camera, get out & shoot!
3 best landscape photography zoom Lenes you using I try to buy one but no idea which one
My main focal length is 24mm. Any zoom lens that can attain this focal length will be perfect
Thanks for the wonderful overview. I won(!) a 15-stop from Lee in a contest a few years ago - and like you noted, it is kind of helpful to capture interesting images in brightly lit sunny days.
Re: chomping in bright conditions - I picked up a Hoodman Outdoor Loupe for such things. I allows one a great view of your LCD even in bright conditions, its small, light, and has a means to hang around your neck so easy access.
Have you ever compared the results from stacking (say) a 6+10 stop pair of NDs to see if there are any negative effects as compared to using a single dark ND (15-stop)?
Absolutely brilliant! It’s on my list. Now I’m stacking 10-stops and 3- and 6-stops but the results are not quite satisfying. I use Nisi, by the way...
2 Questions on Filters:
1. Is it a better idea to just own the 15 stop, and/or maybe a 6 stop, if I typically shoot during the day (ie. not sunrise/sunset)
2. Is the effect of using a 6 stop + a 10 stop together the same as using a 15 stop? Some filter brands allow one to stack or screw one on top of the other.
Total filter noob here, just about to get into buying filters. Thank you for reading!
Hi Dennis. I only use a 6 + 10 stop filter. The more glass the more degradation on the picture. The amount of quality loss will depend pn the quality of glass of course. Some people combine they have no issues. Tough call :)
Gary I have always admired your long exposures, but really struggle with them, I have a couple of videos coming up where I try to capture a long exposure I have been after, without giving too much away I am going out tomorrow to try again. I use the Zomei that you suggested in a previous video, but this 15 stop looks amazing, thanks again for sharing.
Hope it went well John? Cheers 👍
I like those effects, in fact this morning I was trying to achieve it with a field of long grass waving in the wind. Unfortunately I didn't have enough Nd stops. I'll try again tomorrow and try the 5 stop Nd in my Olympus as an addition to the external filters. Stay safe.
I like the music you use!
Pleased you are enjoying it down this way Gary. I’m just glad you didn’t try it on the 30s exposure setting, 11 days 😂
lol I just checked it, 11 days 9hours and 4 minutes. I'm guessing the 4 minutes is crucial 🤣😃😂
Gary Gough 😂👏
As always Gary I didn’t enjoy it I loved it I think I might need more than a 10 stone filter to get my images to your standard thank you
I love long exposure images with the water looking smooth and misty and yours are stunning.
Got a couple of 3/6/10 stop filter sets (square Rollei, Round Haida) - I figure the combo 10 and 3 or 6 will get me close enough most of the time. I think I might have been stacking all 3 of the round ones at a single occasion.
Hi Gary. Whats you Veiw on variable ND filters, lots of them for sale ? good vid enjoyed your explanation, thanks for sharing
You used your day in Dovercourt / Harwich and Felixstowe well.
Cheers Bill
great stuff. I wanted to ask weather we can use 10 and 6 stop filter one on another if we do not have 15 stop filter. will it give us similar results
Yes it will but the result will depend on the quality of the filters.
another awesome video
Thanks again!
Great class... Ty
Glad you enjoyed it!
Will surely be getting a 15 stop.
What if you used a 10stop and a 6stop together. Would this work as I don't have a 15 stop. Love your videos. I don't watch anyone else but you now. Cheers
Love it , can’t wait to get back to it
Cheers as always Dave. See you out there soon xx
Interesting video even of the clouds didn't serve you well. Had a Lee 10 stop filter for a number of years. Colour cast has always been a problem on colour images. Do you take any steps on colour correction in-camera or post processing? How does the 15 stop compare to the 10 stop filter?
My 10 and 15-stopper both cast a blue colour. I correct it in post. I actually like the blue cast though :)
Gary Gough I get a significant blue/magenta cast. Somewhat frustrating because it needs adjustments to be useable - unless you like everything blue.
great stufff Gary. do you have to get different filter holders for different lenses. do they all accept 2 filters ?
You have to buy a filter kit that fits the diameter of your lens. If all of your lenses are the same diameter then you're quids in :) Most filter providers offer different adapters for different sized lenses though. Hope this helps
Got a matching bit missing in my soft grad filter as well :-)
I have just purchased a LEE Big Stopper to with my Little Stopper..
Can you recomend 4 ND grad filters ( Budget allowance ) for sea/land scape, I shoot on a APS-C Canon.I already have a .6 hard grad
Now I need to find time to experiment..lol
Hi Andrew. "Kood Pro" are really top-notch budget filters.
Hi Gary , very informative and well presented vlog as usual ( think I watch your video's more than the telly these days ! ) . I don't have a 15 stop filter but I do have the Lee mount system with a 10 and 6 stopper , could I stack them together to achieve similar effect ?
You can indeed stack them 👍
Just be warned that the quality will drop if the filters aren’t of a good standard 👍👍
@@GaryGough Thanks Gary , they are both Lee filters . Wish I'd given them a try last week when I made poor effort shooting a long exposure at Hornsea in bright sun using just the 10 stopper. Ohhhhhhhh well , more thought required .
Gary, did you also have a polarizer installed before the 2 lee filters?
good to know !
I just bought the Lee Super Stopper, supposed to be here tomorrow.
Gary, what your thoughts about circular ND filters like Freewell or Kase ones? (also do you know about magnetic filters that ease shooting and are lightweight?)
I'm not a fan of circular ND filters but I know the Kase brand is a good one.
Hi Gary, I really like the effect but at this current moment in time a top quality filter is beyond my reach. One day when/if funds allow I will get one, for the time being there's lots of other styles of picture to capture so I will concentrate on those. I guess that's a part of what makes photography so interesting cheerio, Del.
Great video Gary
Looks like I will have to add a 15 stop filter to my wish list , would a 10 & a 6 used together archive a similar result ?
10 plus 6 would produce an identical result. That's what I use for all my long exposure pictures.
Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Unless you get light leakage when you stack them?
@@vjosullivan Thanks , will save my money and try what I already have.
@@DennisMcDermott I use screw on filters for my long exposures. They're a lot more robust in every way than Lee resin filters.
The more glass the more degradation on the picture. The amount of quality loss will depend pn the quality of glass of course. Try combining them, if you're happy with the results then you're good to go :)
thank you for this great video.