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I'm a recovering heroin, crack, and benzodiazepine addict, and despite a couple of points that were a little reductive, you were pretty much spot on with this video.
I took too many shrooms in my early 20s, suffered an existential crisis and saw no point in life, didn't feel my normal self again for about a year or two, 10/10 good time.
@@PkPvreshrooms are fine so long as there is no schizophrenia/psychosis in your family tree. That being said, if you're going to do them you should start off slow and steady to see your reaction to them.
Yeah that was the main issue I had. I was tripping so frequently, often taking 400μg+ at a time, that I ended up with a pretty dissolved sense of self and not many beliefs to hold on to. Had to kind of 'rebuild' over the next couple of years, which was part of my journey but I wouldn't necessarily recommend.
@@powerdove everything in moderation homie. The cool things about shrooms at least is that they can often self moderate (make you super introspective and make yourself realise you're mis-using them). Glad it all ended well for you homie!
I’m an undergraduate finishing up a degree in neuroscience and this pretty much checks out, the current thought is that shrooms more or less dull your sense of self and allow you to experience your own thoughts without the bias of experiencing them as yourself
any word on the cannabis ? cause i feel like that sorta applies there too. maybe in a less intense manner for sure, but thats what i feel, a space between me and my feelings.
Ok but hear me out 20s aren't the time to take rec drugs, really, the best time to take drugs is in your 80s in a nursing home. Disposable income, toilets built into your chair and nurses within 10 metres at all times. 10/10
I've done shrooms/acid a handful of times, not on a high dose for any of them. I remember when you guys talked about that trip on the podcast, and you talked about ego death, which is what you need for what Jordan's talking about with the baseball analogy. I find those drugs allow you to access thoughts you have that are so second nature they're buried in your subconscious and you can view yourself from like a third person perspective but still knowing everything you know; which can be very useful like he said when you're at a crossroad in life
@@MinnieMakeup_ probably. My wife has autism and adhd and when we went to a show Jordan's mannerisms and expression on the roman empire were almost identical to my wife's when she talks about her special interests 😂
For me Mushrooms provided some much needed introspection. it put a lot of the trauma I've been through into perspective, the issue with it comes in when you don't have the tools to address whatever lesson it has taught you, I learned this the hard way when one of my most enlightening mushroom trips lead to me having a pretty severe mental breakdown. long story short, I thankfully didn't end myself, but I realised that mental breakdown was something I needed to go through in order for me to learn to wisen the fuck up and start being an actual adult. while mushrooms can be a lot of fun, they can also be a really good tool for addressing unhealthy aspects of your life when used in the right setting.
YUP relatable. I did acid when i was like 19, thinking it would be a fun party drug like MDMA. For my buddies, that ended up being true. For me however, who had a lot of unresolved trauma, it was a severely potent medicine that altered my personality forever--luckily for the better. But it was extremely dangerous, and intense, and taught me a lifetime in one night, which took years more to unpack and integrate. Psychedelics must be treated with sacred respect.
@@wyattarent857 yeah, having nearly 20 years worth of trauma addressed in one night is brutal, but I am thankful for the lesson it taught me, long story short it basically said “Hey, all that trauma you went through? You wouldn’t be who you are today if you never went through it” and while distressing in some aspects, I also found it quite comforting, cause I knew that I was a much better person than I was in high school, who was an unbelievably hateful and unempathetic person. It made me realise that a lot of the shit I went through needed to happen in order for me to realise I needed to take back control of my life, or die completely unhappy.
@@lurklingX that basically is what mushrooms is. The nausea and dizziness is still there though, haven’t puked on mushrooms though, just like “my tummy not happy with me right now”
I'm sober off of weed about 3 months now after being on it for nearly 7 years, nonstop. I lived bordering a legal state, so I just would buy from the shops there. All I wanted was to just not be mentally present at all, it was too painful. Now I'm learning how to _cope_ with emotions again, with life. God.. I really wasted a lot of my life, so much of my 20s, weed helped me at first but it just took over COMPLETELY. I do really want to try shrooms though--damn 😂
Did the same thing for me in my early 20s. I used it (i can see now) as a coping mechanism because I had no purpose in life. I spent a couple years just smoking/video gaming to avoid life. I have done shrooms and I'll tell you it just opens up your brain. I don't know what the first time smoking weed was life for you but I still remember one time I could not stop thinking and everything became interconnected somehow. That's what shrooms is like. I once spent 2 hours just contemplating 'the self' and that was hard.
@@AlphaMelGibson After a few months of daily smoking, it just stops doing anything for me. I need breaks from weed to use weed.. Your dreams should come back within a few days of stopping.
@@AlphaMelGibson being completely honest, my partner of 4 years left me, I was to scattered it was affecting other parts of my life, and it's money that could be used in better places. My dreams have come back but they are still quite vivid
"...Now, speaking of important tools..." I half expected you to follow up with a comment about being an important tool, but you were nice to yourself and I appreciate that more.
I do shrooms probably once a year or less. I agree with everything you said. The only difference between how we use them is I try to use the insights I gain as a road map. I think they can be used alongside meditative practice over time to genuinely develop a more objective view of oneself and the world. I write a trip report after each time and refer back to it to assess my progress in making certain changes. Once I feel either completely stuck in my progress towards that goal, or have stabilized a large portion of that goal, then I trip again.
You hit the nail on the head. I always saw it as a way to essentially 'zoom out' and see the bigger picture. It allowed me to have almost a third-person perspective on my own life. Me and a friend were tripping frequently for around a year until in the middle of a trip, we realised that we had no reason to trip again until we had reached a distant point in our lives and could actually use the perspective that the tripped offered. Imagine you're journeying through a forest and you're not quite sure if you're headed in the right direction. You can't see far as the forest is dense, so you decide to climb up a tree to get a better view of the area. Once climbing down, you use the information you gathered to redirect your course. Climbing trees is time consuming and tiresome so you should aim to do it as little as possible and ensure you make note of what you saw at the top (I think you get the picture by now)
And once you're at the top of the tree you realize the forest is barely the size of a backyard and you've just been to stupid to realize you've been going in a circle for years 😂
45 and took THC gummy edibles for the first time this year. Was depressed, mentally wasn't in a good place, THC changed everything, I don't do it everyday but it does make me insanely happy. Haven't been depressed once after using THC.
I beat my chronic weed addiction a year ago and I’m so glad I stopped. I’m more productive, overall happier, and I get enjoyment out of other things in my life and not just waiting for my next high. I still take psychedelics once or twice a year for similar reasons you mentioned but I agree that it can’t be an all the time thing. Life should be lived primarily sober.
When you say addiction, did you just do it every day after work to chill out or you needed to do it all the time? I am at the moment on medicinal cann use at the end of the day to relax and get me through some depression and shit going in the last few months. It actually helps me get shit done. After work, I'll come home and be like I don't feel like doing anything because depressed, take a hit of the dry herb vape and I am good to go, get my shit done and then relax and be happy. I do want to stop doing it so often but at the moment, my mental health is trash and feel like I'd spiral without it. I really want to have a trip so help and hopefully no do cannabis as much as I am right now. In my mind, it isn't a problem for me, as I could go a few days not doing if I have to.
@@KK-mc9qw I realised it was an issue for me when it was all I wanted to do. It crept up on me, but soon I was really just looking towards my next smoke. I was still productive in aspects of life like work and study but outside of that i abandoned all my hobbies for weed. The real moment of ‘this is a problem’ was when I honestly just wasn’t enjoying it anymore but I couldn’t stop. It left me feeling anxious and fried and I was smoking more and more because every now and then I’d have a good time and the addictive nature of it as well as the hope of enjoying myself kept me going. It’s not always useful to compare, I didn’t smoke as much as others, but I recognised it as a problem and it was really difficult to stop. It helped me early on with my mental health and taking a load off after a long shift, but after a year it became a real problem. This was also when I was 19/20 and I was worried about it’s effect on my brain so thats a factor too. I think it’s important to be introspective of what it’s doing to you and how you’re using it. Don’t let it consume and know how to set boundaries. I still smoke on very rare occasion (once or twice a year) with friends but I cannot be in possession of it or it will become a problem again. Best of luck man. A trip can definitely help sort things out but don’t get your hopes too high, I’ve fallen into that trap.
I usually space my psychedelic experiences out by about a year or two, and I usually make sure I’m in good company, and (most importantly) a good headspace. If you’re already going through some shit when you jump into the unknown then you’re taking it in with you.
Take a recreational drug for long enough and it gets to a point where its not longer an addiction, it becomes a necessity just to be able to function day-to-day. It ends up in a vicious cycle that you want to escape from but doing so will somehow make your whole life fall apart (cant function at work = lose job = lose income = cant pay mortgage/rent... and so on and so on..)
@@spicybaguette7706 Not exactly. We also need water, food and sleep to function, doesnt mean we are addicted to them. Take food for example, everyone needs it to function, although some people get addicted to it (like the people on shows like 'the biggest loser') and some people only eat when they're hungry (because their body is telling them). Same same but different.
@@zchettaz Yeah I get what you mean, but I was referring to things that normally you wouldn't need to function properly, but you build a dependency on, so much so that if you stopped using it could be deadly
Yup, I've done lots of psychedelics and that's always been the main jist of it. Thoughts are just thoughts, and your life is little more than a story you tell yourself. It's not that it's "fake", but it's just very malleable, impermanent. It could be anything other than what it is.
The concept the propaganda understands that makes it very effective is that we are narrative driven creatures. If you take someone's ability to participate in a story away, its the same thing as defeating them. You dont need to tell people what to do. You just need to make their narrative point them that way. Thats from the "How can I use this to control people" side of the fence. Which I just thought was funny, because you basically just said that yourself but got there a completely different way. But both ways, you now have the tools to own your own life. Aka, the ability to take out a pen and write your own narrative.
Shroooms saved my life. 30+yrs Chronic Depression and decided I had nothing to lose when I became suicidal. After my first trip I got a month off. It was like being able to breathe again. Dealing with NDIS brought the Depression crashing back, sadly, but I have done the shroooms a couple of times since and they WORK. Don't CURE the Depression, but they give me a good break from it! Allows me to function, and I'm a much nicer person when I'm not Depressed. I also no longer want to leave the planet. Which is a huge plus.
I took shrooms 2 DAYS ago, here's what happened- I tripped so hard that I felt like I was on a Victorian-era warship in the middle of the high seas. That is to say that my sense of balance was obliterated. Mushrooms don't change you, you do!
Hey I'm from the Blue Mountains and I've never touched shrooms. I know a kid who was microdosing and experimenting with other crap and ended up dead by OD at 22. (heroin)
So neurochemicaly mushrooms flood your brain with serotonin, creating neurotransmitter pathways that allow different parts of your brain to directly communicate with eachother, and can create persistent pathways if they are reinforced during the experience. This is why mushrooms are being used to cure neurological disorders like cerebral palsy, or mental health issues rooted in brain structure like major depression. I think intentions are important to set for a trip, something to think about and work through in your head to emerge with some more clarity on. Personally I've used them while anylizing what others in my head to better understand how other people think and mitigate my autism.
Mushrooms actually do *not* do that neurochemically. Psilocybin is not Serotonin a serotonin releasing agent. If anything it's a serotonin mimetic, as it's simply an agonist at certain serotonin receptor subgroups. Very very different- and less physically taxing- mechanism of action than drugs that "flood your brain" with serotonin i.e. MDMA, 6-APB, etc
@@Michael-jq5pf It's psilocin, not psilocybin. When ingested, the phosphor molecule gets stripped from the psilocybin making psilocin, which is what makes it passed the blood brain barrier, and looks similar to serotonin, but only attaches to specific neurons (5HT2A receptors).
@@Michael-jq5pf You're kind of right, the chemical itself does not mimic serotonin, it just binds to receptors that signal your brain to release serotonin. That's what agonist means. It's 100% less damaging than something like MDMA, but that's because MDMA is a stimulant/psychedelic hybrid, meaning it puts strain on your dopamine circuit, as well as stimulants being generally taxing on your organs. All psychoactive drugs are either agonists (binds to receptor and causes it to fire) or reuptake inhibitors (prevents your synapses from absorbing a neurotransmitter, keeping it active for longer).
@@gamesdeen3768in simple terms: stimulants trigger your brain to overproduce a certain chemical where as psychedelics change the way said chemical is processed. And with Serotonin being the basis for how you perceive reality it literally changes the way your brain processes reality
As someone with asd, I smoke a large amount of pot to help me function in public, it is absolutely a medicine but everyone has a different dosage and different requirements some don’t need any medicine at all
if ur "melding with the computer" its not a microdose, micro dosing is ultimately an anti depressant and sometimes mild stimulant, great for adhd driven depression, but you shouldnt notice that youve taken anything
Shrooms turned me from an autistic shy little unmotivated bum into a bipolar but charismatic go getter. My experiences, as few as they are, we're very impactful and helped me in my journey. And now that Ive finally escaped the retail industry to go work in an entirely different field of work, I believe it's time to regroove my brain.
What I got from this video: 1. Don't take drubs 2. Deal out drubbings (a proper thrashing, good sport) 3. Don't take drugs either 4. Something about someone's dad not being a galapagos tortoise 5. Jordan and Ali should live stream Byzantines vs Turks in age of empires II (but they won't because Jordan's a coward) But yeah, the biggest issue with drugs (or any equivalent "release") is when pleasure seeking becomes the primary goal. You find yourself only working for a beer at the end of the day (the beer is a metaphor). Less than 10% of your life is spent actually *experiencing* "pleasure"; the remaining 90% is miserable because you're projecting into the future, biding your time for the next serve of sweet succulent soma. Funnily enough (speaking of soma), as much as Huxley was against drug/pleasure seeking in this regard, he believed there was a spiritual aspect to psychedelics, much like what Jordan describes actually (he had another book called 'island' where he develops these ideas, but island is not a particularly good read). Idk though, I think drugs would genuinely send me crazy... I guess I can take them when I'm ready for my villain arc 😈
It's not really surprising. Any one who's actually done psychedelics know they are far beyond what most people would consider a "drug" it does not provide any specific feeling so you can't really get addicted to that feeling
Best instance of a sober person bringing you into the self perceptive alterations that come about when you do psychedelics. Some drugs really show you how much of your person is created by yourself vs surroundings and sadly it’s never just nature pushing us to where we go our nature plays a role too, always. Nurture the best parts in you and love those around you good day
I've been a drug addict for over 10 years now, of which 3 years opiates. I'm strating maintenance treatment soon. I've done LSD and the lot and I understand why they work for some people for eg. depression. But you have to remember set & setting, or what kind of a mental state you are and the surroundings and people you're tripping with. It's very important. I can no longer trip because of my medications but whoever there is thinking about doing it, please do your research and stay safe.
I think more videos discussing your esoteric thoughts about life/reality would be amazing! Also fantastic video jordon, spot on with your analysis of what happened when you had psilosibin! There are many many different trips you can have so definitely dont expect the next trip to be the same as your first 😂
I have problems woth self control, i drank to excess 4 times this year and smoked about 7 times total, first few times where months between next where weeks, never less than 2 weeks, i have taken hita of vapes about 6 times, im 17, i have panic attacks about it, im not mentally mature enough to say no to my friends when im offered these things, and im currently coming off of an all nighter of drinking and smoking and i still feel drunk 3 days later, im not in control of myself, i am worried i have damaged my brain beyond repair, can anyone lend some advice? Is the amount i have done dangerous? I generally eat quite healthy and aim to go to the gym atleast once a week, should i be worried? What can i do to be in control of my thoughts and emotions
Keep your substance use to the weekend. That's it really. Don't do anything habitually and you can so pretty much whatever drugs you want. Alcohol is probably the worst drug you can do short of meth and heroin so id cut that out if you can just because of the physical consequences
@@lucian5389 told myself i wouldnt drink again asked my friends to respect it and not force it on me like in the past, the culture surrounding alcohol, atleast in my case, is if you arent getting smashed you arent having a good time, ive observed people drinking 2 or 3 drinks and not gorging themselves as a good middle ground, while avoiding it all together would be ideal, its hard to escape it, i havent touched anything since then and dont plan on it any time soon, i have myriad other things to worry about
the revelations shrooms provides is very experiential. My most profound experience had me feel like a higher being hovering above my body, and the everything in the living room just seemed so foreign and alien to me, and during the come down it felt like I was lowering back into my body, but more cognizant of fact that we're just primates. Very humbling.
The line between a functional addict/alcoholic is razor thin. Any substance or habit that substantially interferes with your life can bring you down. Excellent point on the loss of time generally being the number one loss.
actually when I trip I compulsively draw almost the entire time, one of my favourite times i spent the day making a series of 9 or so drawings! I loved them as much sober as I do tripping, but its cos im an artist so I already have some art experience. I take a break to eat something then go back to drawing, I like tripping now and then to enjoy art, and feel more creative doing it, and the process of creating more art! If i notice it hasn't been productive ill take a long break before my next trip. I'm taking a long break off them right now anyways just because I dont see much reason to trip again in the same setting and it would feel like a waste of the experience, and I want it to stay special. If i feel artistically "stuck" I may be tempted to go again though. That probably puts me in the minority of psychedelic users but who knows.
Weed was very helpful for me for a while, but I ended up making it a regular habit which is not great long term. Just like shrooms, I would say it CAN be helpful as a medicine for SOME people, but I would never recommend doing either regularly for pretty much anyone.
I'm surprised how far off course you are on this topic. Those substances are incredibly powerful for resolving trauma and offering guidance for a life purpose. Anyone struggling with either of those two problems can benefit greatly from a spirit journey in the proper set and setting.
I have a prescription for medicinal cannabis, its been pretty good so far - greatly alleviated my severe anxiety and sensory issues stemming from my Autism. Whats your thoughts on the use of MC for treating lifelong mental health conditions?
take it with a grain of salt. His angle is that if you use the medicinal as an excuse to get high its bad, but if it's an actual helpful treatment, you're fine. Just in moderation
@@mehemynxm6974Everything in moderation. That being said, use it as much as you want so long as you are proactive and productive imo. There is no set guidelines to life, we are all different. But yeah using it everyday AND doing nothing whilst expecting life to change/get better is a recipe for disaster.
So the medical evaluation is, is your life on the whole better for it? Longterm? Then take it. If not, consider your options. I used opiods and MC when I had chronic pain for 2 years. Not ideal but I ended up being happier and more productive than off it because I wasn't in constant pain. Now I'm cured of that pain, I don't use them much.
The best description I can give for mushrooms is they diminish biases and make things more objective. Those rigid patterns of thinking diminish and you just see things the way they are, albeit misbehaving a bit. Of course seeing things objectively is fucking exhausting which is why we have these biases in the first place
@@jordanshanks5340 yes! That's why I think you should be Ken. I think that Ken should be happy and a Barbie movie should be a film which affirms the value of family and relationships with a happy, successful couple as the stars. Also, you look more like Ken than the guy they cast in that role. (As a literal male model, I am sure you have heard that before of course.)
I find the mindfulness of yoga and meditation allows you to access this over time. Acid/shrooms are kind of a cheat code that gives you a fast track to it, with some risks (flipping out, getting stuck in a trip, etc.).
Yay jordies says I should do drugs! In fairness I have a decent job, contributed to my community, got married to an alternative model and have my own house on a tropical beach. After having suffered bad depression and unemployment for a lot of my 20s. Be very interested on a video relating to success vs comfort. I want to persue other dreams and goals in life but scared of it coming at a sacrifice to the happy and peaceful life I've put a huge effort into building. I am also paralyzed by choice (I want a better job, more creative success) as to what direction I should move in and how it could affect what I have built.
I use cannabis alcohol and every now and again hallucinogens. But I hate the people who call it medicine because it’s isn’t really and it’s just making more excuses to take it more often. Smoking weed a bit of alcohol at the end of the week is fine just don’t use it before you have the time to. If something needs to be done don’t smoke until you have nothing to do
Yeah guessing alot of twenty years olds are experimenting. One thing that other people told was put some money aside (like 2k) into shares or something like that. The money spent going out is actually your capital and it adds up later. It's also important to know some of the effects cf the substance or have someone watch you. So sometimes you are not ready for the duration of whatever substance and have to walk around high for hours, for example.
The best times of my life were when i was undergoing pharmaceutical testing. Absolutely zero negative effects other than a few bad trips. Nothing long term. After all that I'm still a successful person with no addictions.
My house mate went on a 2 week holiday. We smoke together. 3 days without smoking the devils luttuce and I've got more stuff done each day at home than I would in a week on weed
Work with a tradesman who went into a mushroom induced psychosis and his body shut down and shit and wasn't breathing for like 20 minutes. He has very very bad anxiety now.
You are what you choose to think, and it is a choice. I don't think you need shrooms to understand this, just ask yourself: Why do i think this way about things? Why am i in the position i am in? What can i change about myself to better myself and my circumstances? In what ways do i negatively impact my own life? You're at the helm, no one else, and no one can change how you think, only you. All self change comes from the self, if you do not want to change, you will not change.
If you are unhappy with yourself or your life, selfish or mean, if you are depressed, if you are naturally suspicious of other people do not do shrooms because you will have the worst time of your life. Saddest thing for someone like me is tripping balls watching other people lose their minds crying howling complaining because they can't handle the truth of what they are, this is what shrooms do to most people. Ive never had a bad trip, people often think I feel bad about my life or myself because Im not an achiever or rich and I hate/am thoroughly dissapointed in my immediate family, but I am very comfortable in who I am and what I am inside which is why I have a ball on shrooms. Its used by shaman and elders around the world to force young people to examine themselves for a reason. After watching MANY newbies try them I can tell you almost no one I meet is happy with themselves or comfortable with who they are. The self examination it forces on you is quite a ride.
I think you hit it right on the head, but there is a little more nuance then just "dont take shrooms". I am a naturally neurotic person with a suspicious attitude to others, but for me I was able to see that part and realize "hey I dont want to be like this anymore." Since then I was able to break some of my deeply neurotic habits. I think having a trip setter who is able to guide through the negative emotions, or being prepared for a trip (ie mantras for safe mind safe body/having a creative outlet to let those thoughts through to paper/art) makes it a safe experience for most of neurotic people like me.
I used weed to cure myself of a broken mind, but now that I am better, I'm stuck where it has left me. I'm glad I started smoking, im not glad I cant stop.
Try mushrooms, I had the same problem. I took more from cannabis than it took for me but noticed it was becoming a problem and mushrooms nipped that right in the but. Its not something you can really do every day like weed but you should also try not to abuse it or every trip is going to be harder and harder to get something of value out of
I used to do drugs and then overcompensate by doing really normal, productive things. The amount of times I took acid and then, like, vacuumed the house...
I never smoke weed. I eat it. Yum yum. Edibles aren't bad for your lungs, more bang for your buck, and freezable. I don't do nothing with my day either. I cook them, freeze them and only use them on special occasions. Nights out (once a month or so) or in a fun evening when I have nothing to do the next morning either ( I don't like to ride my motorcycle the next day after, even though I feel better, I know i'm a touch slower) Shrooms are a once or twice a year thing. Drugs are like any vice. Respect them, use them sparingly for best effect.
Drugs are good I love drugs so much that I only take them a few times a year just so I don’t burn out and can take them for the rest of my life. I like to think of the experience as like a hyper dimensional mirror where you will see aspects of yourself that you wouldn’t otherwise notice, giving you what you need not what want. The entities that you encounter but that’s probably the most interesting part of it. What are they last time I had psilocybin I had a grey alien appear in my backyard then I telepathic voice starts telling me that “you think this is a alien. I’m what a alien is!” Then it appears and it’s as a complex mirrored being that that falls into it self in a fractal pattern.
er.... microdosing shouldn't make you high tho. aside from people saying it can really help with concentration and other stuff.... there's more recent psychological studies on drugs, different doses or alterations, and the effect on deep-seated or lifelong depression. which might be helpful for that or for bipolar. might as well check those, i figure, since a lot of the pharmaceuticals are pretty nasty. BUT GENERALLY i agree with you. drugs, in addition to MANY things is a distraction from actually living. so, moderation is important and abstinence isn't really required. i'd argue to abstain from drugs though because 1.) expensive 2.) potential health complications 3.) too easy to get lost in it, preoccupied by it, or have life pass you by.
i lightly vape dmt instead of drinking alchohol cus it's discrete and i won't build a tolerance for it. it also only lasts like 30 minutes to an hour (only if you vape it) so i don't need a designated driver. you can make it last longer by eating tumeric and pepper, so it encourages you to cook for yourself which is pretty good.
Shrooms have helpd me with PTSD, and the more I've done, the less I do it. However I did meth every day for like 10 years, quit cold turkey and a year later the Dr says oh you got ADHD, here's some meth. I take it as prescribed and I feel better, but the irony...
I think certain drugs should be legal. Everytime i go down my area at night, and it's just drunks and ice addicts constantly fighting. I'd rather aussies have a drug that's if not productive, a drug that at least makes them think.
@JOPLUG5-ON-lNSTAGRAM-SHIPS-. What ? Are you advertising yourself? Either what your saying is nonsensical or I just don’t get it, I do suspect the former though because your comment is highlighted I’m wondering what it is I don’t get? Handle is what?
I often wonder how my life would of turned out if i hadnt eaten atleast 10,000 liberty caps over the course of 2 months, when i was 14. Every single trip in the 2nd month was a trip into unescapable hell and torment. I kept doing them every day, only to descended into terror, regardless of the hell i just escaped the day before. The first few years after where a living nightmare of psychosis, depression, dehabilating anxiety, the worst kind of nightmares while asleep, and probably ptsd. I went through such unatural terror involving death, murder, and insanity. It took 10 years to even start to feel normal again, not that i really have ever had a baseline of adult normality to compare too. Just over 20 years later now and im a very stable and sound of mind man, with most of the bad stuff gone from my mind. The nightmares have become rare, but have never really left me. I dont think i will ever truely trust people, and i dont think ill ever stop being on constant guard duty. Maybe one day. Dont do shrooms.
Did anything good come of that? What on earth compelled you to keep going? (Genuine question. I really want to know why you kept going, if you were having recurrent bad experiences)
i kinda feel like abusing them as a child with a developing brain was probably more of the problem than the substance tbh. but yeah sure, blame the thing you chose to eat, not the choices you made lol
I feel ya I was on the same buzz only 5 years on wards I feel the effects but my life is always taking turns for the better and I think substance abuse helps distinguish that frame of mind from another . My life was similar at the time with day/night terror visions
I am really hopeful that the research/testing surrently being done on shrooms, micro-dosing to treat depression, works out to be a good treatment. The old depression can suck your life away, it's shit. As far as drugs in general, I think the focus on criminality, the war on drugs, prohibition etc needs to die a deserved death. Time to decriminalise and focus on treatment and recovery. I'm 53 btw.
i didnt take shrooms to escape or anything like that , but more to get off my beak...Shrooms are what Acid is aspiring to be... As long as in a safe place, i suggest to try them. Will change how you look at life
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I'm a recovering heroin, crack, and benzodiazepine addict, and despite a couple of points that were a little reductive, you were pretty much spot on with this video.
I took too many shrooms in my early 20s, suffered an existential crisis and saw no point in life, didn't feel my normal self again for about a year or two, 10/10 good time.
Ya my first trip was like that 😢
I didn't need shrooms for that :/
@@PkPvreshrooms are fine so long as there is no schizophrenia/psychosis in your family tree. That being said, if you're going to do them you should start off slow and steady to see your reaction to them.
Yeah that was the main issue I had. I was tripping so frequently, often taking 400μg+ at a time, that I ended up with a pretty dissolved sense of self and not many beliefs to hold on to. Had to kind of 'rebuild' over the next couple of years, which was part of my journey but I wouldn't necessarily recommend.
@@powerdove everything in moderation homie. The cool things about shrooms at least is that they can often self moderate (make you super introspective and make yourself realise you're mis-using them).
Glad it all ended well for you homie!
I’m an undergraduate finishing up a degree in neuroscience and this pretty much checks out, the current thought is that shrooms more or less dull your sense of self and allow you to experience your own thoughts without the bias of experiencing them as yourself
any word on the cannabis ? cause i feel like that sorta applies there too. maybe in a less intense manner for sure, but thats what i feel, a space between me and my feelings.
on acid the biases were still there, i was somehow able to be there
yes and no @@TetraTerezi
Ok but hear me out 20s aren't the time to take rec drugs, really, the best time to take drugs is in your 80s in a nursing home. Disposable income, toilets built into your chair and nurses within 10 metres at all times. 10/10
Also your so out of it you won't notice the abuse against you from your new 'carers'.
Ah yes bcs I totally wanna drastically shift my perspective on life once I'm too old to do anything about it 😂
Yeah and blow your heart out after 1 hit
I've done shrooms/acid a handful of times, not on a high dose for any of them. I remember when you guys talked about that trip on the podcast, and you talked about ego death, which is what you need for what Jordan's talking about with the baseball analogy. I find those drugs allow you to access thoughts you have that are so second nature they're buried in your subconscious and you can view yourself from like a third person perspective but still knowing everything you know; which can be very useful like he said when you're at a crossroad in life
My man’s ADHD is in full force
1000% and im loving it
Should we get him assessed ?
@@MinnieMakeup_ probably. My wife has autism and adhd and when we went to a show Jordan's mannerisms and expression on the roman empire were almost identical to my wife's when she talks about her special interests 😂
I've been sure of this for ages too lol
Nice, weed is great for ADHD, hey Jordan have you considered roasting cannabis all day? You'd be a very entertaining functional dry herb vaper.
For me Mushrooms provided some much needed introspection. it put a lot of the trauma I've been through into perspective, the issue with it comes in when you don't have the tools to address whatever lesson it has taught you, I learned this the hard way when one of my most enlightening mushroom trips lead to me having a pretty severe mental breakdown. long story short, I thankfully didn't end myself, but I realised that mental breakdown was something I needed to go through in order for me to learn to wisen the fuck up and start being an actual adult. while mushrooms can be a lot of fun, they can also be a really good tool for addressing unhealthy aspects of your life when used in the right setting.
YUP relatable. I did acid when i was like 19, thinking it would be a fun party drug like MDMA. For my buddies, that ended up being true. For me however, who had a lot of unresolved trauma, it was a severely potent medicine that altered my personality forever--luckily for the better. But it was extremely dangerous, and intense, and taught me a lifetime in one night, which took years more to unpack and integrate. Psychedelics must be treated with sacred respect.
@@wyattarent857 yeah, having nearly 20 years worth of trauma addressed in one night is brutal, but I am thankful for the lesson it taught me, long story short it basically said “Hey, all that trauma you went through? You wouldn’t be who you are today if you never went through it” and while distressing in some aspects, I also found it quite comforting, cause I knew that I was a much better person than I was in high school, who was an unbelievably hateful and unempathetic person.
It made me realise that a lot of the shit I went through needed to happen in order for me to realise I needed to take back control of my life, or die completely unhappy.
@@builttoscalevideos yes absolutely!!
sounds like ayahuasca but without the nausea and puking.
@@lurklingX that basically is what mushrooms is. The nausea and dizziness is still there though, haven’t puked on mushrooms though, just like “my tummy not happy with me right now”
I'm sober off of weed about 3 months now after being on it for nearly 7 years, nonstop. I lived bordering a legal state, so I just would buy from the shops there. All I wanted was to just not be mentally present at all, it was too painful. Now I'm learning how to _cope_ with emotions again, with life. God.. I really wasted a lot of my life, so much of my 20s, weed helped me at first but it just took over COMPLETELY. I do really want to try shrooms though--damn 😂
Did the same thing for me in my early 20s. I used it (i can see now) as a coping mechanism because I had no purpose in life. I spent a couple years just smoking/video gaming to avoid life. I have done shrooms and I'll tell you it just opens up your brain. I don't know what the first time smoking weed was life for you but I still remember one time I could not stop thinking and everything became interconnected somehow. That's what shrooms is like. I once spent 2 hours just contemplating 'the self' and that was hard.
Don't worry brother you're not alone, very similar with me, been off for 2 months after 10 years and I am unquestionably better for it
What made you guys stop? (inspire me pls :D) And when did your dreams come back?
@@AlphaMelGibson After a few months of daily smoking, it just stops doing anything for me. I need breaks from weed to use weed..
Your dreams should come back within a few days of stopping.
@@AlphaMelGibson being completely honest, my partner of 4 years left me, I was to scattered it was affecting other parts of my life, and it's money that could be used in better places. My dreams have come back but they are still quite vivid
"...Now, speaking of important tools..." I half expected you to follow up with a comment about being an important tool, but you were nice to yourself and I appreciate that more.
I do shrooms probably once a year or less. I agree with everything you said. The only difference between how we use them is I try to use the insights I gain as a road map. I think they can be used alongside meditative practice over time to genuinely develop a more objective view of oneself and the world. I write a trip report after each time and refer back to it to assess my progress in making certain changes. Once I feel either completely stuck in my progress towards that goal, or have stabilized a large portion of that goal, then I trip again.
You hit the nail on the head. I always saw it as a way to essentially 'zoom out' and see the bigger picture. It allowed me to have almost a third-person perspective on my own life. Me and a friend were tripping frequently for around a year until in the middle of a trip, we realised that we had no reason to trip again until we had reached a distant point in our lives and could actually use the perspective that the tripped offered.
Imagine you're journeying through a forest and you're not quite sure if you're headed in the right direction. You can't see far as the forest is dense, so you decide to climb up a tree to get a better view of the area. Once climbing down, you use the information you gathered to redirect your course. Climbing trees is time consuming and tiresome so you should aim to do it as little as possible and ensure you make note of what you saw at the top (I think you get the picture by now)
And once you're at the top of the tree you realize the forest is barely the size of a backyard and you've just been to stupid to realize you've been going in a circle for years 😂
45 and took THC gummy edibles for the first time this year. Was depressed, mentally wasn't in a good place, THC changed everything, I don't do it everyday but it does make me insanely happy. Haven't been depressed once after using THC.
I beat my chronic weed addiction a year ago and I’m so glad I stopped. I’m more productive, overall happier, and I get enjoyment out of other things in my life and not just waiting for my next high. I still take psychedelics once or twice a year for similar reasons you mentioned but I agree that it can’t be an all the time thing. Life should be lived primarily sober.
When you say addiction, did you just do it every day after work to chill out or you needed to do it all the time?
I am at the moment on medicinal cann use at the end of the day to relax and get me through some depression and shit going in the last few months. It actually helps me get shit done. After work, I'll come home and be like I don't feel like doing anything because depressed, take a hit of the dry herb vape and I am good to go, get my shit done and then relax and be happy.
I do want to stop doing it so often but at the moment, my mental health is trash and feel like I'd spiral without it. I really want to have a trip so help and hopefully no do cannabis as much as I am right now. In my mind, it isn't a problem for me, as I could go a few days not doing if I have to.
@@KK-mc9qw I realised it was an issue for me when it was all I wanted to do. It crept up on me, but soon I was really just looking towards my next smoke. I was still productive in aspects of life like work and study but outside of that i abandoned all my hobbies for weed. The real moment of ‘this is a problem’ was when I honestly just wasn’t enjoying it anymore but I couldn’t stop. It left me feeling anxious and fried and I was smoking more and more because every now and then I’d have a good time and the addictive nature of it as well as the hope of enjoying myself kept me going.
It’s not always useful to compare, I didn’t smoke as much as others, but I recognised it as a problem and it was really difficult to stop. It helped me early on with my mental health and taking a load off after a long shift, but after a year it became a real problem. This was also when I was 19/20 and I was worried about it’s effect on my brain so thats a factor too.
I think it’s important to be introspective of what it’s doing to you and how you’re using it. Don’t let it consume and know how to set boundaries. I still smoke on very rare occasion (once or twice a year) with friends but I cannot be in possession of it or it will become a problem again.
Best of luck man. A trip can definitely help sort things out but don’t get your hopes too high, I’ve fallen into that trap.
I usually space my psychedelic experiences out by about a year or two, and I usually make sure I’m in good company, and (most importantly) a good headspace. If you’re already going through some shit when you jump into the unknown then you’re taking it in with you.
Recreational drugs should be used as an adventure like going to the theme parks, not as a necessity for everyday functioning!
Take a recreational drug for long enough and it gets to a point where its not longer an addiction, it becomes a necessity just to be able to function day-to-day.
It ends up in a vicious cycle that you want to escape from but doing so will somehow make your whole life fall apart (cant function at work = lose job = lose income = cant pay mortgage/rent... and so on and so on..)
@@zchettaz"it becomes a necessity just to be able to function day-to-day." That literally is addiction bro
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Not exactly. We also need water, food and sleep to function, doesnt mean we are addicted to them.
Take food for example, everyone needs it to function, although some people get addicted to it (like the people on shows like 'the biggest loser') and some people only eat when they're hungry (because their body is telling them).
Same same but different.
@@zchettaz Yeah I get what you mean, but I was referring to things that normally you wouldn't need to function properly, but you build a dependency on, so much so that if you stopped using it could be deadly
Microdosing mushrooms was the key to getting over my depression and social anxiety. And now I rarely feel the need to take them
Yup, I've done lots of psychedelics and that's always been the main jist of it. Thoughts are just thoughts, and your life is little more than a story you tell yourself. It's not that it's "fake", but it's just very malleable, impermanent. It could be anything other than what it is.
The concept the propaganda understands that makes it very effective is that we are narrative driven creatures. If you take someone's ability to participate in a story away, its the same thing as defeating them. You dont need to tell people what to do. You just need to make their narrative point them that way.
Thats from the "How can I use this to control people" side of the fence. Which I just thought was funny, because you basically just said that yourself but got there a completely different way. But both ways, you now have the tools to own your own life. Aka, the ability to take out a pen and write your own narrative.
Shroooms saved my life. 30+yrs Chronic Depression and decided I had nothing to lose when I became suicidal. After my first trip I got a month off. It was like being able to breathe again. Dealing with NDIS brought the Depression crashing back, sadly, but I have done the shroooms a couple of times since and they WORK. Don't CURE the Depression, but they give me a good break from it! Allows me to function, and I'm a much nicer person when I'm not Depressed. I also no longer want to leave the planet. Which is a huge plus.
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Well done man 😊
Istg his tism becomes more apparent with each passing day, keep finding myself agreeing with the guy so he is on to something.
Tism as in autism. Or tism as in the Hit Satire australian punk band, T.I.S.M. Aka (This is serious mum). Either one works.
This was awesome. Thanks Mr shanks
I took shrooms 2 DAYS ago, here's what happened- I tripped so hard that I felt like I was on a Victorian-era warship in the middle of the high seas. That is to say that my sense of balance was obliterated. Mushrooms don't change you, you do!
You sure you didn’t turn on the show 1899 and just think you were on the ship…? 🤔😅
Hey I'm from the Blue Mountains and I've never touched shrooms. I know a kid who was microdosing and experimenting with other crap and ended up dead by OD at 22. (heroin)
So neurochemicaly mushrooms flood your brain with serotonin, creating neurotransmitter pathways that allow different parts of your brain to directly communicate with eachother, and can create persistent pathways if they are reinforced during the experience. This is why mushrooms are being used to cure neurological disorders like cerebral palsy, or mental health issues rooted in brain structure like major depression. I think intentions are important to set for a trip, something to think about and work through in your head to emerge with some more clarity on. Personally I've used them while anylizing what others in my head to better understand how other people think and mitigate my autism.
Mushrooms actually do *not* do that neurochemically.
Psilocybin is not Serotonin a serotonin releasing agent. If anything it's a serotonin mimetic, as it's simply an agonist at certain serotonin receptor subgroups.
Very very different- and less physically taxing- mechanism of action than drugs that "flood your brain" with serotonin i.e. MDMA, 6-APB, etc
@@Michael-jq5pf It's psilocin, not psilocybin. When ingested, the phosphor molecule gets stripped from the psilocybin making psilocin, which is what makes it passed the blood brain barrier, and looks similar to serotonin, but only attaches to specific neurons (5HT2A receptors).
@@Michael-jq5pf You're kind of right, the chemical itself does not mimic serotonin, it just binds to receptors that signal your brain to release serotonin. That's what agonist means. It's 100% less damaging than something like MDMA, but that's because MDMA is a stimulant/psychedelic hybrid, meaning it puts strain on your dopamine circuit, as well as stimulants being generally taxing on your organs. All psychoactive drugs are either agonists (binds to receptor and causes it to fire) or reuptake inhibitors (prevents your synapses from absorbing a neurotransmitter, keeping it active for longer).
@@gamesdeen3768in simple terms: stimulants trigger your brain to overproduce a certain chemical where as psychedelics change the way said chemical is processed. And with Serotonin being the basis for how you perceive reality it literally changes the way your brain processes reality
As someone with asd, I smoke a large amount of pot to help me function in public, it is absolutely a medicine but everyone has a different dosage and different requirements some don’t need any medicine at all
if ur "melding with the computer" its not a microdose, micro dosing is ultimately an anti depressant and sometimes mild stimulant, great for adhd driven depression, but you shouldnt notice that youve taken anything
Shrooms turned me from an autistic shy little unmotivated bum into a bipolar but charismatic go getter. My experiences, as few as they are, we're very impactful and helped me in my journey. And now that Ive finally escaped the retail industry to go work in an entirely different field of work, I believe it's time to regroove my brain.
me rollin a spliff while he lecturing me
What I got from this video:
1. Don't take drubs
2. Deal out drubbings (a proper thrashing, good sport)
3. Don't take drugs either
4. Something about someone's dad not being a galapagos tortoise
5. Jordan and Ali should live stream Byzantines vs Turks in age of empires II (but they won't because Jordan's a coward)
But yeah, the biggest issue with drugs (or any equivalent "release") is when pleasure seeking becomes the primary goal. You find yourself only working for a beer at the end of the day (the beer is a metaphor). Less than 10% of your life is spent actually *experiencing* "pleasure"; the remaining 90% is miserable because you're projecting into the future, biding your time for the next serve of sweet succulent soma. Funnily enough (speaking of soma), as much as Huxley was against drug/pleasure seeking in this regard, he believed there was a spiritual aspect to psychedelics, much like what Jordan describes actually (he had another book called 'island' where he develops these ideas, but island is not a particularly good read). Idk though, I think drugs would genuinely send me crazy... I guess I can take them when I'm ready for my villain arc 😈
It's not really surprising. Any one who's actually done psychedelics know they are far beyond what most people would consider a "drug" it does not provide any specific feeling so you can't really get addicted to that feeling
I loved the point made at 10:30. Plato's Allegory of the cave was my exact thought process in my own experiences. 😂
Best instance of a sober person bringing you into the self perceptive alterations that come about when you do psychedelics. Some drugs really show you how much of your person is created by yourself vs surroundings and sadly it’s never just nature pushing us to where we go our nature plays a role too, always. Nurture the best parts in you and love those around you good day
I did 5 trades and 4 different licences on drugs, please tell me again how I do nothing while stoned.....
Vaugely remember Jordan talking about this on the Neel and Jordan podcast, when is that comming back, was my favourite podcast!
I've been a drug addict for over 10 years now, of which 3 years opiates. I'm strating maintenance treatment soon. I've done LSD and the lot and I understand why they work for some people for eg. depression. But you have to remember set & setting, or what kind of a mental state you are and the surroundings and people you're tripping with. It's very important. I can no longer trip because of my medications but whoever there is thinking about doing it, please do your research and stay safe.
I think more videos discussing your esoteric thoughts about life/reality would be amazing!
Also fantastic video jordon, spot on with your analysis of what happened when you had psilosibin! There are many many different trips you can have so definitely dont expect the next trip to be the same as your first 😂
Just chiming in jordan i have inattentive adhd and it helps me focus and complete tasks. :)
I’ve been smoking weed every day for nearly 20 years. Where am I?
I have problems woth self control, i drank to excess 4 times this year and smoked about 7 times total, first few times where months between next where weeks, never less than 2 weeks, i have taken hita of vapes about 6 times, im 17, i have panic attacks about it, im not mentally mature enough to say no to my friends when im offered these things, and im currently coming off of an all nighter of drinking and smoking and i still feel drunk 3 days later, im not in control of myself, i am worried i have damaged my brain beyond repair, can anyone lend some advice? Is the amount i have done dangerous? I generally eat quite healthy and aim to go to the gym atleast once a week, should i be worried? What can i do to be in control of my thoughts and emotions
Keep your substance use to the weekend. That's it really. Don't do anything habitually and you can so pretty much whatever drugs you want. Alcohol is probably the worst drug you can do short of meth and heroin so id cut that out if you can just because of the physical consequences
@@lucian5389 told myself i wouldnt drink again asked my friends to respect it and not force it on me like in the past, the culture surrounding alcohol, atleast in my case, is if you arent getting smashed you arent having a good time, ive observed people drinking 2 or 3 drinks and not gorging themselves as a good middle ground, while avoiding it all together would be ideal, its hard to escape it, i havent touched anything since then and dont plan on it any time soon, i have myriad other things to worry about
the revelations shrooms provides is very experiential. My most profound experience had me feel like a higher being hovering above my body, and the everything in the living room just seemed so foreign and alien to me, and during the come down it felt like I was lowering back into my body, but more cognizant of fact that we're just primates. Very humbling.
The line between a functional addict/alcoholic is razor thin. Any substance or habit that substantially interferes with your life can bring you down. Excellent point on the loss of time generally being the number one loss.
actually when I trip I compulsively draw almost the entire time, one of my favourite times i spent the day making a series of 9 or so drawings! I loved them as much sober as I do tripping, but its cos im an artist so I already have some art experience.
I take a break to eat something then go back to drawing, I like tripping now and then to enjoy art, and feel more creative doing it, and the process of creating more art! If i notice it hasn't been productive ill take a long break before my next trip. I'm taking a long break off them right now anyways just because I dont see much reason to trip again in the same setting and it would feel like a waste of the experience, and I want it to stay special.
If i feel artistically "stuck" I may be tempted to go again though. That probably puts me in the minority of psychedelic users but who knows.
Jordan not swaying away from the mic when talking - challenge impossible
I am nothing. Nothing is real. I am real? Did i macro my micro?
Go to the devils punch bole in Mount Gambier at winter for good magic mushrooms
you were right Jordie never clicked so fast
Weed was very helpful for me for a while, but I ended up making it a regular habit which is not great long term. Just like shrooms, I would say it CAN be helpful as a medicine for SOME people, but I would never recommend doing either regularly for pretty much anyone.
Govt is a thought. Doesn’t exist in any other realm. Only in the kind of man does the govt entity exist.
I'm surprised how far off course you are on this topic. Those substances are incredibly powerful for resolving trauma and offering guidance for a life purpose. Anyone struggling with either of those two problems can benefit greatly from a spirit journey in the proper set and setting.
I have a prescription for medicinal cannabis, its been pretty good so far - greatly alleviated my severe anxiety and sensory issues stemming from my Autism. Whats your thoughts on the use of MC for treating lifelong mental health conditions?
@@OnlyAchievingHere here in VIC, very few lol
I did have genuine need for it, my friend Max, not so much...
@@OnlyAchievingHere hardest part is getting the cash to pay for the overpriced bud. it's all over the phone
take it with a grain of salt. His angle is that if you use the medicinal as an excuse to get high its bad, but if it's an actual helpful treatment, you're fine. Just in moderation
@@mehemynxm6974Everything in moderation. That being said, use it as much as you want so long as you are proactive and productive imo. There is no set guidelines to life, we are all different.
But yeah using it everyday AND doing nothing whilst expecting life to change/get better is a recipe for disaster.
So the medical evaluation is, is your life on the whole better for it? Longterm? Then take it. If not, consider your options. I used opiods and MC when I had chronic pain for 2 years. Not ideal but I ended up being happier and more productive than off it because I wasn't in constant pain. Now I'm cured of that pain, I don't use them much.
Hahahaah "blue mountains trippers"
Can't wait to finally see you Oct 1st 🫡🫡
The best description I can give for mushrooms is they diminish biases and make things more objective. Those rigid patterns of thinking diminish and you just see things the way they are, albeit misbehaving a bit. Of course seeing things objectively is fucking exhausting which is why we have these biases in the first place
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This guy should play Ken in the next Barbie movie.
This man does not have a sad life - ua-cam.com/video/V4TyOIL2tws/v-deo.html
@@jordanshanks5340 what in the name of schizophrenia is this?
@@jordanshanks5340 yes! That's why I think you should be Ken. I think that Ken should be happy and a Barbie movie should be a film which affirms the value of family and relationships with a happy, successful couple as the stars.
Also, you look more like Ken than the guy they cast in that role. (As a literal male model, I am sure you have heard that before of course.)
I find the mindfulness of yoga and meditation allows you to access this over time. Acid/shrooms are kind of a cheat code that gives you a fast track to it, with some risks (flipping out, getting stuck in a trip, etc.).
Yay jordies says I should do drugs! In fairness I have a decent job, contributed to my community, got married to an alternative model and have my own house on a tropical beach. After having suffered bad depression and unemployment for a lot of my 20s.
Be very interested on a video relating to success vs comfort. I want to persue other dreams and goals in life but scared of it coming at a sacrifice to the happy and peaceful life I've put a huge effort into building. I am also paralyzed by choice (I want a better job, more creative success) as to what direction I should move in and how it could affect what I have built.
I use cannabis alcohol and every now and again hallucinogens. But I hate the people who call it medicine because it’s isn’t really and it’s just making more excuses to take it more often. Smoking weed a bit of alcohol at the end of the week is fine just don’t use it before you have the time to. If something needs to be done don’t smoke until you have nothing to do
These rants are great, and informative. Order that pizza with extra shrooms.
... You need to be reminded... Click
I can't listen I'm in a rut
Jordan, if you haven't, you should definitley read The Ego Tunnel by Thomas Metzinger.
LSD comes from Ergot a fungus that grows on rye.
Yeah guessing alot of twenty years olds are experimenting. One thing that other people told was put some money aside (like 2k) into shares or something like that. The money spent going out is actually your capital and it adds up later. It's also important to know some of the effects cf the substance or have someone watch you. So sometimes you are not ready for the duration of whatever substance and have to walk around high for hours, for example.
The best times of my life were when i was undergoing pharmaceutical testing. Absolutely zero negative effects other than a few bad trips. Nothing long term.
After all that I'm still a successful person with no addictions.
My house mate went on a 2 week holiday. We smoke together.
3 days without smoking the devils luttuce and I've got more stuff done each day at home than I would in a week on weed
great video
Where does one go if one wants to experience psychedelics?
Work with a tradesman who went into a mushroom induced psychosis and his body shut down and shit and wasn't breathing for like 20 minutes. He has very very bad anxiety now.
You are what you choose to think, and it is a choice. I don't think you need shrooms to understand this, just ask yourself: Why do i think this way about things? Why am i in the position i am in? What can i change about myself to better myself and my circumstances? In what ways do i negatively impact my own life?
You're at the helm, no one else, and no one can change how you think, only you. All self change comes from the self, if you do not want to change, you will not change.
the ones across the very big river are some of the best in the world
Took lsd, I’m good with just a few times a while ago. It’s like it makes you mind more plastic for a brief time.
If you are unhappy with yourself or your life, selfish or mean, if you are depressed, if you are naturally suspicious of other people do not do shrooms because you will have the worst time of your life. Saddest thing for someone like me is tripping balls watching other people lose their minds crying howling complaining because they can't handle the truth of what they are, this is what shrooms do to most people. Ive never had a bad trip, people often think I feel bad about my life or myself because Im not an achiever or rich and I hate/am thoroughly dissapointed in my immediate family, but I am very comfortable in who I am and what I am inside which is why I have a ball on shrooms. Its used by shaman and elders around the world to force young people to examine themselves for a reason. After watching MANY newbies try them I can tell you almost no one I meet is happy with themselves or comfortable with who they are. The self examination it forces on you is quite a ride.
I think you hit it right on the head, but there is a little more nuance then just "dont take shrooms". I am a naturally neurotic person with a suspicious attitude to others, but for me I was able to see that part and realize "hey I dont want to be like this anymore." Since then I was able to break some of my deeply neurotic habits. I think having a trip setter who is able to guide through the negative emotions, or being prepared for a trip (ie mantras for safe mind safe body/having a creative outlet to let those thoughts through to paper/art) makes it a safe experience for most of neurotic people like me.
This is really fucking with my high
3:40 man that’s why I like dmt/changa cuz it’s only 15/45 mins and you get blitzed 😂😂
I did shrimp like 3 times macrodosing and I’m fine, I just felt better afterwards.
I like your words aussie man
I used weed to cure myself of a broken mind, but now that I am better, I'm stuck where it has left me. I'm glad I started smoking, im not glad I cant stop.
Try mushrooms, I had the same problem. I took more from cannabis than it took for me but noticed it was becoming a problem and mushrooms nipped that right in the but. Its not something you can really do every day like weed but you should also try not to abuse it or every trip is going to be harder and harder to get something of value out of
I used to do drugs and then overcompensate by doing really normal, productive things. The amount of times I took acid and then, like, vacuumed the house...
The purpose of a crutch is to get you back on your feet, not to put you in a wheelchair.
Jordan, do you consider happiness and success to go hand in hand or are they seperate ideas?and is one more or less important then the other?
I'm wondering this too
Fark Shanks, how much did you take? that was some kind of flashback rant
I never smoke weed. I eat it. Yum yum. Edibles aren't bad for your lungs, more bang for your buck, and freezable.
I don't do nothing with my day either. I cook them, freeze them and only use them on special occasions. Nights out (once a month or so) or in a fun evening when I have nothing to do the next morning either ( I don't like to ride my motorcycle the next day after, even though I feel better, I know i'm a touch slower)
Shrooms are a once or twice a year thing. Drugs are like any vice. Respect them, use them sparingly for best effect.
Ooo he knows he knows I know he knows
Erowid is a great source of drug information. The trip reports could be great content, Jordan.
Drugs are good I love drugs so much that I only take them a few times a year just so I don’t burn out and can take them for the rest of my life. I like to think of the experience as like a hyper dimensional mirror where you will see aspects of yourself that you wouldn’t otherwise notice, giving you what you need not what want.
The entities that you encounter but that’s probably the most interesting part of it. What are they last time I had psilocybin I had a grey alien appear in my backyard then I telepathic voice starts telling me that “you think this is a alien. I’m what a alien is!” Then it appears and it’s as a complex mirrored being that that falls into it self in a fractal pattern.
Did them under the red moon eclipse next to a bonfire in Warburton. Did them in Canada once and watched the snow fall. ❄️
How do you honestly comment on something like this, good on you mate ,keep up the good work 😂👍
er.... microdosing shouldn't make you high tho. aside from people saying it can really help with concentration and other stuff.... there's more recent psychological studies on drugs, different doses or alterations, and the effect on deep-seated or lifelong depression. which might be helpful for that or for bipolar. might as well check those, i figure, since a lot of the pharmaceuticals are pretty nasty. BUT GENERALLY i agree with you. drugs, in addition to MANY things is a distraction from actually living. so, moderation is important and abstinence isn't really required. i'd argue to abstain from drugs though because 1.) expensive 2.) potential health complications 3.) too easy to get lost in it, preoccupied by it, or have life pass you by.
jordies what if im just a girl
Thank you. I am now cured.
‘It’s not that I’m smarter. I just stay with problems longer’ - Albert Einstein.
I did a lower than recommended dose for hallucinating and i just felt happy. I'm still suss on acid.
i lightly vape dmt instead of drinking alchohol cus it's discrete and i won't build a tolerance for it.
it also only lasts like 30 minutes to an hour (only if you vape it) so i don't need a designated driver.
you can make it last longer by eating tumeric and pepper, so it encourages you to cook for yourself which is pretty good.
I feel like this need to be seen by everyone 😂
@@OnlyAchievingHere I use fasa instead of acid/base to extract mine so it's g.
Stop kidding yourself.
Shrooms have helpd me with PTSD, and the more I've done, the less I do it. However I did meth every day for like 10 years, quit cold turkey and a year later the Dr says oh you got ADHD, here's some meth. I take it as prescribed and I feel better, but the irony...
His a mycologist best I've worked with
Don't take drugs, deal them 💯💯💯💯
8:50 Yep. Instead of thinking on ego you're thinking on raw nature... for an hour or three at least.
What if you're a chef?
Jordan's dad was randy marsh
I think certain drugs should be legal. Everytime i go down my area at night, and it's just drunks and ice addicts constantly fighting. I'd rather aussies have a drug that's if not productive, a drug that at least makes them think.
@JOPLUG5-ON-lNSTAGRAM-SHIPS-. What ? Are you advertising yourself? Either what your saying is nonsensical or I just don’t get it, I do suspect the former though because your comment is highlighted I’m wondering what it is I don’t get? Handle is what?
I often wonder how my life would of turned out if i hadnt eaten atleast 10,000 liberty caps over the course of 2 months, when i was 14. Every single trip in the 2nd month was a trip into unescapable hell and torment. I kept doing them every day, only to descended into terror, regardless of the hell i just escaped the day before. The first few years after where a living nightmare of psychosis, depression, dehabilating anxiety, the worst kind of nightmares while asleep, and probably ptsd. I went through such unatural terror involving death, murder, and insanity. It took 10 years to even start to feel normal again, not that i really have ever had a baseline of adult normality to compare too. Just over 20 years later now and im a very stable and sound of mind man, with most of the bad stuff gone from my mind. The nightmares have become rare, but have never really left me. I dont think i will ever truely trust people, and i dont think ill ever stop being on constant guard duty. Maybe one day.
Dont do shrooms.
How do you do that many? Was it on purpose?
Did anything good come of that? What on earth compelled you to keep going?
(Genuine question. I really want to know why you kept going, if you were having recurrent bad experiences)
i kinda feel like abusing them as a child with a developing brain was probably more of the problem than the substance tbh. but yeah sure, blame the thing you chose to eat, not the choices you made lol
@@onistgaming5177 It almost sounds like an involuntary situation
That would definitely screw with somebody
I feel ya I was on the same buzz only 5 years on wards I feel the effects but my life is always taking turns for the better and I think substance abuse helps distinguish that frame of mind from another . My life was similar at the time with day/night terror visions
I am really hopeful that the research/testing surrently being done on shrooms, micro-dosing to treat depression, works out to be a good treatment.
The old depression can suck your life away, it's shit.
As far as drugs in general, I think the focus on criminality, the war on drugs, prohibition etc needs to die a deserved death. Time to decriminalise and focus on treatment and recovery.
I'm 53 btw.
mushrooms, its one of the few things i do want to try, but i cant trust the people around me to reassure everything is ok.
i didnt take shrooms to escape or anything like that , but more to get off my beak...Shrooms are what Acid is aspiring to be... As long as in a safe place, i suggest to try them. Will change how you look at life