8 Million Subs and 1.6 Billion Views... NOBODY CARES | Freddie Wong on the Movie Industry
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Freddiew should have worked with Netflix instead of hulu, because frankly nobody cares about hulu outside of u.s.
Not to mention the running joke that Netflix greenlights literally any godamn script that comes through their doors these days...
Hulu is opening up to internation I here so maybe they will care. But idk depends on Disney.
*should have / should've
what the fuck is "should of"?
Reality check! When it comes to marketing it's all about the US and the Chinese market and the rest of the world is at best a afterthought.
I too have been waiting for this convo. Click with the quickness!
sWooZie penis balls
Oh shit you watch these??!!
@@bananaking730 Aye sWooZie you should come on the Corridor podcast
Ay swoozie
Yeah it’s a damn shame, I used to watch freddiew’s videos all the time back in the early 2010’s but since the medium of what Freddie is doing is so widespread nowadays, his content hardly matters anymore. If maybe Freddie evolved his content a little bit more, maybe he could’ve hung around a little longer.
This is kinda sad to hear... freddiew and the crew back in 2010 was the MAIN AND WHOLE reason i started youtube and editing. The main reason how i got into movie making, editing, youtube, film school and a batchelor in film. Iv been having multiple channels doing VFX and skits since FreddieW golden days.
That you guys dont have the same, or even more influence on youtube, is so sad... now mainstream media and vloggers like Jake paul and old Viners hs taken over the content on youtube. Only a week ago i re-visited the old coridor and freddiew videos, and it felt sooo good. Its my childhood. I want a job at Coridor really, that would be a dream
I feel you man. Freddiew was the main reason I found my passion in filmmaking and pursued it as a career. The way Freddiew edited his videos also inspired me to be like him and maybe be better than him. Because of him, I'm now working in the media industry. Its sad that all these UA-cam feature and short films are being taken over by vloggers who usually put no effort in their videos.
Don't be sad. They're angry that traditional media doesn't allow for them, but fail to acknowledge that traditional media is on its way out. What's happening to television now will happen to movies in 15 years, and EVERYONE will be doing what FreddieW did, it'll be like a switch that's flipped.
What's being yearned for here is establishment and structure, and to be a part of the status-quo instead of a trendsetter, which is sensible and I understand it.
The current shift we're seeing - towards establishment and vlogging over the parts of youtube that were originally great - is the last dying breath of that status quo attempting to adapt to the trend that FW and CD established, and the thing is, it's not working. The views these companies bring in on youtube in no way make up for the views they lost from cord-cutters; what's more, if the trend continues, it's simply fertile ground for the NEXT youtube to come and take the old one's place.
Same, Freddie and what he created inspired me to look into film and eventually CG, which I still am aspiring to master. But I know deep down that he inspired me and regardless of how many views or how popular he is, I will still go on knowing he goes on. Me going on being occasionally making a 3d model and pretending im an artist :D
Same here to Bro back in 2010!.... Good old days.... freddiew is my top one Favorite youtube channel...
Captain disillusion, Corridor and Freddie. They all put in so much effort for so little views. It's sad seeing them work for years just to get a little bit of recognition
... Why is this just now appearing in my recommended feed? I needed this a
LONG
time ago.
TRUE
@@muimrep2281 yea it sucks but I least now I can rest
Freddie is going through what tens of thousands of UA-camrs will be going through in a few years. All these 19-24 year old freshed-faced vloggers seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that where was an entire decade of content creators before them who are currently trying to figure out how to keep this career alive as they get older, get married, have kids, etc. The entertainment world has always been a harsh business, that won't ever change.
Well, that's not entirely true. Because by that time more and more business decisions would be made by people who are closely familial with social media. Industry is changing, slowly but shurely
@@LockMatchtrue but I think the original guy was referring to the people who have 0 talents. The Jim sterlings and critical drinkers they have nothing to provide out side of British voice and political commentary. So many people are just unemployed and making UA-cam videos but they manage to lie to themselves that this is a job. How many of them have spent 10 years “making content” but their not skilled labor hell their barely unskilled labor. A film or writing degree is dime a dozen.
This comment didnt age well.. lol
@@Skinnamarink. depends on who you looking at tho. Others self implode, others can't adapt to their audience or grow beyond, and some can ride out new waves with THEIR style it depends on the person for sure.
@@Skinnamarink. It's not even had time to age. Give it another 4 years and see where most big UA-camrs and Tiktokers from 2018 are in 2028.
Freddiew, Corridordigital....the UA-cam glory days
yup
Corridor has made a huge comeback recently with their new content thankfully. Really good to see.
@@SilentButDudley They were able to adapt, but it's kinda sad. They probably have a lot of fun reacting, but I wonder what they could accomplish without having to play to the metrics.
Honestly VGHS was a guilty pleasure. Only element missing was the MOBA scene like League players. But it was actually fun and corny but in a good way lol. And it was decently shot, and the cast was likable.
FanaticalDrummer if they brought VGHS back I would totally watch it.
@@ivanjasper6772 Same here
I watched it and I'm a MOBA player
The concept was awesome! Loved watching it, though it got really corny
@@RSGReallySimpleGaming for better or for worse it was certainly intentional, though
My friends and I watched the videos every weekend together after work. It was our ritual for years
Heeey it's Roberto! I see you everywhere and love some of your content.
I'm not a "filmmaker", but I live and work in Georgia as a props person and Armorer on a lot of the big shows here. I can say confidentiality that nobody in the industry respects UA-cam or new media on the level they should.
In my books, as long as you're working on a set, be it Production, Art, or Tech Crew, I'd consider you a Filmmaker, wear that tag with pride. Because if you've ever been on set, you'd know how gruesomely long shooting hours are and it takes pure passion to survive
Until they do something like Prelude to Axanar.
I've seen way better fan made movies on YT than I have from Burningwood....
for every Dredd we get like 10 Batman v Superman disasters yet some of what i;ve seen on YT outdoes much of Burningwood lol
I no longer call it Hollywood, it's burningwood cus the industry is burning and crumbling at an alarming rate...plus with all the hack movies and constant SJW nonsense I lost all respect for the industry, when these fools [SJW's] felt it was okay to insult fans they lost their fight then and there....the entertainment industry as a whole is bound and determined to destroy itself and really everything is on a crash course with fate and the end doesn't look good for anyone or anything....
@Actiongirls Scotty JX Burningwood can die as far as I'm concerned.....eh, they finally earned my ire and lost all the remaining respect I had....thanks a lot Disney!!!!! and captain flat ass!!!
They don't have to respect us Netflix, youtube, vimeo, instagram are taking over no matter what those elitist hollywood cunts think
Cant believe freddiew has these kinds of regrets. But as a content creator I understand, and this makes me think
Citizen Mike VGHS shall forever rest in piece
The world is bigger than Hollywood. And in these last years the best films were either indies or productions from outside the U.S. So forget about Hollywood. Go out in the world. Especially Freddy with his skills will have a bigger and better chance to make the movies he wants.
@@chrichtonsworld1 Not really, it's a completely different ball game. As he points out the amount of people and skill you need to make a movie doesn't just exist everywhere. It's like finding out someone is an engineer, they are never just an engineer but an engineer in something. This is the same with film making, just because you can make good youtube content doesn't mean you can make good film, and vice versa. They are two entirely different skill sets and there is a reason why so many indie movies fail or don't get funded.
Hollywood also has better unions in place for film making, that is sorta important for this industry as well and the successful indies you do see, are from insanely talented and very lucky people. One other thing, directing yourself or a few friends in youtube is completely different from an entire set worth of people needed in film making, there is a reason there are so many people in movie ending credits and every last one of them is needed for film making. It's a beast and really to have the infrastructure to feed that beast, not many places can do it and many of the skills needed you never get from youtube.
Again, I may be an aerospace engineer but I know fuck all about structural engineering. The world and jobs and what not are complex entities adn very rarely do specialty skill sets translate. Hence why all actors who want to direct usually cant and all directors who want to act suck. The ones we remember and think of are the one out of a million who succeed.
Not anymore. Hes probably laughing now that hollywoods is on fire.
Bro make a go fund me i owe Freddy like $100 for teaching me my ways
Gone are the days when UA-cam contents were pushing the boundaries and make us viewers think, "Holy shit, they can do this at home too? I thought only Hollywood could do this!"
in fairness, hollywood caught up. corridor had a great line in an early video "we made things cheaper and better than the traditional system because we understood how to use vfx. Hollywood's since learned the lessions with what we are doing" or something to the affect.
Time changes all things,
@@kasperhawser6431 nah stuff from hollywood is still generic garbage...nothing i see meets the coolness of even old corridor stuff
@@HarshNerf you’re gay
@@kasperhawser6431 the future is calling, things like she-hulk and so very many shows put the truth to that speculation.
Hollywood is still very much in the fixed formulaic mindset on this one. The FX people may well have learned but they don't seem to be getting anywhere near enough the support/flexibility/notice they need to produce their best work for a project with a specific vision.
This statement becomes more truthful with every year that passes. UA-cam has been rewarding creators more and more for posting every day for years now, and posting every single day just isn't doable for channels that are trying to break boundaries and impress people with every single video. A couple of months ago creators needed to have 4000 hours of watch time to monetize their channels, now it's 4000 in the last 30 days. That's an insane amount of hours for a smaller channel, if you're not posting pretty much every single day good luck getting that.
Then a pandemic happens. Look at all the traditional celebrities using social media now.
Hey man Hollywood and the people with money to produce things on the scale Freddie deserves are literally too old to ever "get" UA-cam. They legit gotta die b4 any new media thing gets adopted
I love Freddie, this dude has inspired so many people to grow as creators. I look up to the guy, and am genuinely proud that he exist. It really gives hope for the species in general.
Video Game High School got me through middle school.
Same. It was a guilty pleasure but on the nights I couldn't sleep I would rewatch it a lot.
Got me through high school. And yeah, high school was nothing like VGHS.
That's why Freddie should have stayed a UA-camr. Wish him the best of luck.
If it's just about money then most likely yes. He probably could have just kept making similar vids and churned out a decent living. But a director is like an artist. They want to do work that they are passionate about and enjoy doing.
Xu Xiaodong is the goat
Jerry Liu!!!!
Somehow I think RocketJump would have been perfect for these times. Short-form action, VGHS, whatever Freddie and friends used to do would be so welcome now.
@@joepup8348 Yeah, I think you're right. RocketJump was ahead of its time kind of.
Fight Commentary Breakdowns or maybe rocketjump inspired what is big now. They made it big and then they left.
Hollywood sounds like a dude that joins your groups at the club, then says you can't come to the afterparty, while the afterparty is at your house.
Out of topic, but I used to watch your rs vids when I was younger, was very surprised to see your name in the comment section for this video randomly lol. How you doing?
@@luckyseer Hi Lucky, nice to come full circle. I started an video editing business and have a long career ahead of me. But if I'd be rich tomorrow I'd just make rs vids and hang around all day. How's your adventure going?
@@Chiszle Im currently in uni for computer science and engineering, Which I definitely wouldn't have done of not for runescape. Great to see you doing well, I wish you luck with your ventures. And of course, I still play osrs, you never really quit runescape of course :p
@@luckyseer indeed, its ingrained in my psyche. Comp sci and engineering, go get that money. You'll be a true asset.
That whole exchange was so wholesome. I wish the best for both of you!
I have been waiting for an in depth conversation/ interview with Freddie and Brandon and finally its happened! Thanks guys keep up the podcasts!
oh damn, real film industry talk on this one. If you are in LA doing an even remotely "big" job with known SAG actors and an agency DP, full crew, etc... some one will call that in and IATSE will come for you
Didn’t know the IATSE did movie stuff, thought it was concerts and theatres
@@stevez6693 "The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States, its Territories and Canada" The E really stands for alot of shit. Wardrobe Technicians used to get their own comma separated value, but I think now they just get considered a part of Theatrical Stage Employees, Moving Picture Technicians, and/or Allied Crafts (they always were really)
This video is 4 years old now but that guy who made the backrooms video getting a film with A24 definitely seems to be showing a change in the attitude of LA.
really interesting to see how Freddie went down the business route, while the Corridor guys still want to have their own thing going creatively
They rather evolved to become a team of specialists for aftereffects, so they can always go down that route, working for others.
@@thomasthemenace They're a Visual Effects house. They do stuff for other people
@@Kpba32 True, I just wonder how those income streams are weighted out.
The poor Sam is really sad after Freddie's words
Sam this is for you ❤️
4:30
He's just thinking deep so that he can add to the conversation. Well, that's what I was seeing.
ya lol he was just thinking tf
Ben Affleck during bvs interview
@@munkykng416 my thoughts exactly
I still remember waiting each week for the next episode of VGHS to release. Good old days of UA-cam
For anyone that remembers this, Freddie was involved in plenty of commercials for video games, for Blizzard and Call of Duty.
If I were in Freddie's shoes, I could go the route of making and directing short creative action videos for the gaming industry from commercials all the way up to storyline content, using his uncanny ability to bring gaming characters to IRL.
Corridor has material to polish and send to festivals, ROT, TETHER and many more, I think right now is more about making that script and characters better, the visual part you guys already have solved.
Fuck, are they EVERY doing anything with Tether?
2:00 SO TRUE. I tried doing a small film back in college here in ND I was all excited for it and had a few friends who seemed interested in doing it with me. It wasn't gonna be very long like 15-30 minutes tops we had lots of ideas. I scheduled a lot of stuff put a lot of stuff together. Got a place to film it, even got a cameraman or two to help for free (which was very nice of them). Then tried to find just some extras in the background even if they were just sitting there studying or working on homework. Didn't really find anyone, then luckily like a week before found 2 that were gonna be nearby anyways and were okay with being filmed. Then my one friend kinda just backed out without telling me or he did tell me. The day of the shoot the other friend was no where to be found, called him up and he was told "im on my way" waited a bit was down to just me, and one of my friends. Wanted 4 people, needed like 3 at least. Luckily a guy I knew was around and was willing to be in it which was great.
In the end the one cameraman (who was kinda new to it) forgot to take the protective clear plastic off the lens of the one camera and so half the footage was slightly blurry :( I had to do almost everything and if I could have I would have done everything but sometimes you need others to do stuff cause you can't do everything all at once and when relying on people it can make problems. At the end of the shoot the one friend finally showed up and it was like "well you missed it cause you were late" but he didn't seem to care. -_-
Maybe if I had money to give to people to work for me it would have been slightly better but making movies in places other then California just doesn't work to well unless your okay with doing it all alone without extras or other actors etc. That's one of the major factors that has been deterring me from doing videos like I want cause im just me and I can only rely on myself but it's hard to film something that requires some actors and your just you and operating the camera and lighting etc. At least with the editing of that film I made I had all the control of where I wanted the music, where I wanted cuts etc.
Just keep putting yourself out there, you can go to places with other people who have the same interests. Don’t stop honing or learning about your craft and make it yours
If I could be an extra and do my homework I'd be there next to you guys 😅
Sucks how someone has illusions and your "team" doesn't put in 120%
Happened with a band but I sometimes think some stuff is harder with friends and other times better with randoms that have the same ambition.
I like to write and I have my notes and stuff. Imagination is my thing but my friends lack in that so bad that even when they name stuff it's terrible.
Some just don't have the vision.
That's why it has to be a 2 man team, a writer and the guy doing screenplay.
This is killing me. So sad to hear the disappointment and I totally get it. But I rot on UA-cam and watch anything and everything multiple times, all you have done. You are all superstars! These very personal videos make me love you guys even more. I’ll keep buying the merch and watch and share videos. And when I’m old and grey you are what I’ll be watching on my old man vr headset.
Love All y'all.
Love your work!
Hope you'll keep doing what you're doing and find happiness along the way
I was going to say that while I love Corridor and FreddieW's videos, I always felt that there was a lower expectation of quality on youtube because it's free and easily accessible content, and a lot of successful youtubers find an audience because the content is right there at your fingertips and free to watch.
Then again, most of what Hollywood puts out these days isn't worth paying theatre ticket prices for in my opinion, so many he has a point.
Every time I watch Freddie Wong or Corridor's videos I always wonder why they haven't been approached to make a movie, just someone give them a large budget to work with, and I kinda understand now, it still makes me sad.
Honestly I didn’t like their latest projects. They were made to be an exaggeration by default, but still, it looked too fake. And even the things that were supposed to be real (like some fights) looked fake. I understand it’s very hard to make a good action scene, but I think they should’ve done it better (especially cause they had the equipment and stunt team). That’s why I didn’t really watch their videos too much.
I love these clips. Thanks a lot!
6:44 "The more expensive it gets, the harder it is to do your own thing."
very true words
I remember starting youtube watching random stuff like "funny videos" "people falling" etc, but freddiew was one of the first channels i got into, i remember the smosh video they did as a colab, and that got me into smosh too!.
I got somewhat passionate about animation/film, but my wings where cut with studies, but i still love watching stuff the people in corridor do.
I feel like VGHS was one of the best things I've seen in UA-cam. It wasn't the best shit ever in the world, but it was something we all waned and got thanks to you freddie.
It’s weird having seen this dude in that VRV ad so many times...
And then hearing him be so self-aware of his placement/influence in the entertainment space
So sad that Freddie’s crew and all’s work hasn’t paid off I’ve enjoyed his content since day one
Damn. I really hope he makes it big. He's just so creative and his content is so good.
Freddiew introduced me to the vast youtube community of action videos. They were my favorite videos 7-8 years ago. It sucks time is constant and we're always moving forward and getting older. I just wish I could enjoy a little bit more of that youtube era. Anyway, thank you Freddie, Brandon, Sam, Niko and so on...
It makes me so sad to see Freddie jaded. Hang in there, dude! You're a pioneer! You took the longer, harder road. It'll pay off. Old Hollywood is crumbling. I worked in VFX in LA for five years. Real-time rendering is about to change everything. The biggest VFX studios will implode in the shift, and the vacuum will send production companies flailing for good content. I know people in the industry who respect you guys more than most of the people who "made it." The real pros will turn to guys like you when it's time to rebuild the industry from scratch. Stay strong!
I think the real solution is to put effort into 'serious' short films that have a shot at festivals.
e.g., Dan Trachtenberg
Amen!
That pathway was meant for people who have zero experience and then you get hired as a camera operator or assistant director. And for Freddie who has a ton of experience that's like a heart surgeon getting a job as a nurse
Ethan Rice that’s not how the Industry works. It’s honestly about making friends/connections and showing people how valuable you really are. Doing something with your buddies on UA-cam even at high-quality doesn’t prove that you can work well in a big production team.
@@Faceplay2 that IS how the industry works. But not necessarily how it SHOULD work.
The film and theatre industries are some of the most exclusive and elitist out there. Acting guilds and filmmakers guilds are basically required to land a good job, but you have to either know someone on the inside or already be famous through dumb luck to get in.
Actors and filmmakers who produce better material are passed over in favor of the guy who was lucky enough to pour the producer a great cup of coffee.
There's a reason we still talk about the underrepresentation of certain groups in the film world. Because despite film and theatre being some of the most liberal occupational communities, they are still super slow to change, and the producers look at money and conventionalism over quality.
Freddie w DOES know how to work in teams. He hired actors and camera men and set designers and editors. BUT the old rich guy paying for Hollywood doesn't know any of those actors.
It's not actual experience. That matters here. It's names
Nice to hear from you guys again. I used to be obsessed with your videos before you disappeared
This is the best clip you have posted ever! LOVE it
"If we decided to split off back in 2012, let's say. An alternative version of us."
...This is definitely the darker timeline.
The title is right.
I'm a nobody. But I care.
But caring has no value. I'm only a single number in your sub count but i've loved your stuff since I was in high school over a decade ago. I really hope everything pans out for you man. Your videos have always made me smile and I've loved your cinematography since i've seen it. Keep your head up man. You do great work.
You had a major series go from UA-cam to Netflix, but Hollywood doesnt want to work with you? Then dont work with Hollywood, work with Netflix. Work with Hulu. Work with HBO. People need to get away from this "it has to be on the big screen to matter" ideal.
That's not how VFX works. High quality VFX takes astronomical amounts of time to put together. A cheap 10 second clip might take an hour to put together. A high end 10 second clip might take a week. Movies don't just give you more money because it is a better quality. They pay you to sit there and work on that same 10 seconds for far longer.
He likely wants to go Hollywood because it allows him to do more. He gets bigger budgets, he gets better actors, he gets better crew, everything is bigger and better. UA-cam, Hulu, and web in general is bottom dollar. You have to make something great out of nothing. Sometimes that works out big time, but in most cases it just turns into some forgettable drivel. It is easier to make a masterpiece if you have the right tools.
Okay, I get what you mean now. You are talking about the amount of work being more concentrated with big movies instead of smaller projects. You get a lot of work, all at once instead of being spread out over years.
That is true. Makes total sense and you explained it well. I just misinterpreted your original post. Sorry.
Netflix, HBO and Hulu are all Hollywood. Most everything they show is written, produced, and edited in Los Angeles.
@@finewinedaily4997 LA is a city, Netflix HBO and Hulu are not in thea3
@@EmceeTimmyT I live and work in the movie/TV/commercial industry in Hollywood. All of the major creative operations of Netflix, HBO and Hulu are in Los Angeles, specifically Hollywood and Burbank.
And the vast majority of shows on Netflix are made by separate production companies and sold to Netflix. Nearly all of those companies are in LA, with a few in New York. Even most of the British and Canadian shows have significant operations in Los Angeles. If you want to produce a movie or TV show and get a good crew and good actors you need to work in either LA or New York, with Chicago being a distant third.
Freddie's bigger problem is that he doesn't really have anything worth buying. He can make fun VFX skits, but his work on longer form, story-based entertainment is not good. The acting, writing and general plot of stuff like VGHS is terrible. No producer would look at that and think he would make a good director. His low budget VFX skills aren't really worth anything if he wants to be a director, as the VFX are going to be done by an actual VFX/compositing house.
Hey Freddie, you will always be #1 for me and I will proudly keep my signed VGHS posters on the walls !
Freddie's videos inspired me as a young filmmaker, and it is sad to hear that the work he done "doesn't matter". I think life moves on but for sure he is sounding very negative and hopeless about his past work which he should be very proud of.
Spend a few years trying to make it in hollywood and everyone hating you because you used to do internet stuff and you'd be bitter too.
This kind of made me sad. I always loved Freddie's content, and I know it's a extremely hard job, but I wouldnt put down all the work they did. Even if to the rest of the world those records dont matter, who cares. It matters to all the fans you made. Dont forget all the people your videos touched, or made smile. All those videos and corridor have shown me my passion for filmmaking, and that's what you should strive for. Money is not everything.
Watching this during quarantine, hollywood is taking a huge hit. I hope channels like this can come out on top in the end
These podcasts are just the bomb! So informative. I can totally see this niche of podcasting UA-camrs becoming huge.
Thanks for this advice! I heard Freddie talk a bit about it at Vidcon last year so it was cool to hear some more in depth about it. I definitely was hoping to pivot my UA-cam videos into feature or TV directing but I too have been wondering if that route is really working, though I have gotten more corporate and commercial directing gigs. This year I have a short that's doing the festival circuit, so I guess we'll see where that takes me! Thanks again. Both Rocket Jump and Corridor Digital have been big inspirations to me!
I remember watching this guy when I was a kid like in 2008 and 9 good times, the age of flash games and halo 3 and reach.
Freddie has grown a lot as a person, I'm happy for u frediie boi ;-)
Feels like Freddie had a mindset that was in direct conflict with the very real opportunities they had in hand with rocketjump.
They were pioneers in the sense of smaller scale productions with well above average effects but couldn't help but look at what the other side of the industry had (an easily available talent pool of cast, crew and gear/sets).
Depressing... Freddie is an amazing creator and deverse so much more, along with all the people he works with.
Maybe because Hollywood see people like Freddiew as just VFX artists/Editors not so much as Directors.
Then explain David Fincher's success
My family loved Rocketjump so much every video is saved on our cloud drive to watch on our TV. We still watch and laugh at them today.
Huge fan of Lifeline! You guys did a really good job. It was the reason I subscribed to UA-cam Premium. It's sad to hear it was such an unpleasant experience.
It's sad. I've watched so many incredibly talented comedians, actors, and writers find success online over the last 20 years, and it's so rare to see that translate to a mainstream career.
Many of my friends are TV actors and seems like the only thing they care about in that industry and hold value in is money + a completed full great story/script* with meaning. Great camera work and cool shots alone they don't care about too much because it means everyone still waiting on that story to film.
I grew up watching you, freddie, so it's great to hear from you dude. Thanks!
I've been on UA-cam since the beginning I think and I grew up with UA-cam and computers around me.
Such a great interview. Real honest thoughts.
As a long time fan, what I would say is I've always wanted you guys to make a 'low budget' movie, maybe a horror or something similar, of lets say 88-94 minutes.
I think you could do this on a low budget and do something special.
The big change I always feel is that movies tend to have a certain visual 'look' that sometimes seems distinct from youtube stuff. I don't know if they're filming on a different camera or what, but sometimes the visual quality of even a low budget horror is quite good compared to yt.
That and you need a great story!!!
Best of luck guys
"The more expensive it gets, the harder it is to do your own thing. The cheaper it is, the more likely you are to do your own thing."
Dude I grew up on your videos! You're in part my inspiration the start my own business! I've opened one store and in 6 months I'm about to open my second store! Dude don't give up! Keep trying! I think some people are afraid of UA-camrs and what they will do to the film industry!
The Jerk store?
@@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician damn bro. You good?
FreddieW totally should try his hand in Hollywood. This man deserves a bigger and relevant audience.
Hearing lifeline at 4:44 unlocked a memory stashed deep away in the attic of my brain, something I never fully got round to
Strangely I can relate. Lost my college grant. So spent the past 8 yrs studying everything I would have learned. But ah so what cause I don't have a piece of paper that says I spent time studying. So learned a lot but still can't use it to get a job.
5:47 Did he just eat a toothpick?
holy balls...
Maybe it was pocky or some kinda brown candy?
Nah keep watching he's just tasting it. It's like that one family guy episode. Sam is a toothpick guy.
Could be a cinnapick, literally just a cinnamon flavoured tooth pick
TheLucidChiba what are the chances of that being correct?
These three men have inspired me to do new things especially in the film world. I am currently a college student hating the usual way of school. I don’t know what I want to do but thanks to Sam, Niko, and Freddieand I am making my first short film. I’m watching tons of youtube video on basic aspects of How To’s and similar content. But I always end up watching these guys (probably cause I’ve watched them for 9year of my life. These guys made the film industry look fun and exciting to the point I’m apply for film school after 3 years of “normal college” (sorry if that offends anyone but I don’t know how else to explain it.) I want to thank Corridor Crew and Rocket Jump as well for the inspiration. I haven’t started my channel yet but I will probably post a comment on Corridors next video about it. Today is film day👌🤙
Rocket Jump was my favorite channel for a long time, I'm always looking for Freddie's next projects!
The film industry has been around much longer then UA-cam and the internet. They look at us as if we are just babies making videos for quick entertainment. It's a totally different playing field, but in the end, we are all creators trying to share a vision. That is what matters
Oof, this hits the nostalgia nutsack of mine just like PurePwnage. Old internet was so different.
So many channels. And I love them all.
FreddieW, you're a legend.
All the best!
Woah this guy sounds just like Glenn Close
Shows Asertes in job interview...
Hollywood interviewer: 'But how many awards have you won, who have you worked for?'
I remember when I was 16 and the main guys from VGHS came into my little Cesars to get pizza... man that was a trip
Hearing this and I totally understand where they are coming from, ultimately I think the biggest challenge I am facing right now is taking my films off the for free platforms and starting to try and get a decent return on what I am doing. Never got into a film festival but I am glad my portfolio includes short films that have gotten broadcast distribution and SVOD sales. In the past online views have been good however I got my first break in Television in the UK because one of my films turned a small profit in it's theatrical release. It wasn't even a cinema but the set of the horror short with a cheap projector showing on a bedsheet, ultimately films like that are the reason anyone gave me anything to make a film in the first place. Web views be darned.
Such a defeatist attitude. Nothing worth doing is ever easy
Why can't a dude just have been awesome at capturing a moment in time 7 years ago? Why can't that be the reason? He came along did some great stuff and then faded. That's how careers in show business work, not everyone gets to have a twenty year career, 99.99% of people who try never have a career half of Freddie's. I get that he needs to keep moving and trying, of course he's a human trying to make his way. I even get fans willing him on. But it's not a crime he never broke through, it's not evidence that the world is aligned against talent. It's a reminder that making stuff people like is super difficult
and involves and element of luck, and that we should be happy that this man captured that for any instance in our lives.
well said.
you guys made youtube more interesting and i've had many students wanted to learn AE and 3D because of you guys - its sad that not much attention was given to your kind of content than anyother else in todays media
VGHS was amazing growing up, especially since I was familiar with Rocket Jump.
Hey guys, I have a suggestion: putting "watch the whole episode" links in these podcast snippets would be quite helpful=)
There isn't much visual stuff going on, so little pop ups or something along those lines wouldn't be disruptive!
Tweaked the description, thanks for the suggestion!
Kaedenator suck it
@@kdenator He was referring to the video Big guy
It's not just movies, it's nearly every established industry. They either don't get new media/youtube/etc, or are too salty that it's so popular. Take ad executives for example. They keep pumping obsene amounts in TV Ads, then they don't work, and when web ads, youtube ads, inlfuencers on other other platforms are so much more efficient, and you can track their effectiveness so much better. But don't get internet, they are set in their ways. They are the past, but for now, they control the money strings. And that's like that in every industry. Until millennials get promoted into positions of power, that's not gonna change.
i'd say salty, very salty.
yep exactly, that's safe and comfortable for them, even though the market share has to be dropping like crazy. I haven't watched a TV in years. But even the creators, just like these guys, they have this dream of getting there. my friend is a writer, and she wants to be "published." Bands still want want recording deals. THAT'S ALL OLD MEDIA. that's the old system and it's designed to screw the artists
They'll be forced to change when there is literally no TV anymore and it's all web. I work in the web commercial/content space and more money is going that way but agencies and clients don't see it as "TV" budget.
@@vontd9 Can you talk more about it? Why is it TV budget, and not eyeball budget? Don't they care about effectiveness? Accountability?
@@fobusas It differs from project to project, and it's slowly changing with some web content getting huge budgets. However, generally there's still a misconception that if lots of money is being spent it should be on TV. I've seen terrible web commercials from very well known companies simply because they want to ride the content river (quantity) on instagram for cheap.
miss u freddie
Just wanted to say I fucking love how you guys did VGHS, still one of my favorite shows
My experience as a filmmaker, even if from a different country (Italy): I started with a self-produced short, which went around festivals winning many prizes and that took me to make a movie released by 20th Century Fox (Tempo di Reazione). Only later I opened a UA-cam channel to be able to work on personal projects with freedom. Our "Innumerevoli Ombre" web-series has won prizes around the world (New York, Los Angeles, Rome) and that has allowed us to do something else. Freddie (and Sam and Niko) need to do the opposite journey: now that they have this experience and strength deriving from their series on the web, they need to do a short self-produced to take around at festivals and with which to look for a contract for a film.
5:18 grabbin the mic like a true RockStar.
Very insightful!
I am Latest Subscriber everything you do it on You tube are the Best Like shooting ,LEGO, Horror like anything you do its awesome and you show us how you did it the VFX camera,and everytthing i am proud that i have subscribed this Channel.....!
Ironic. Allot of new VFX and editors in Hollywood most likely got a few tricks from Freddie's old tutorials. Especially the gun muzzle flash one.
I find it funny most big budget films and shows today have worse muzzle flash effects that UA-cam videos from 2009. Most VFX artists still don’t know how to properly do it. It’s still better to go with blanks and squibs on a project like that in my opinion.
Dan Esp Hollywood doesn’t need VFX for muzzle flashes because they use blanks and look real.
@@YahirGarciaChannel Blanks can't always be used for safety reasons. And VFX is used to legitimize real shots that need touch up later
You have a whole generation that looks up to UA-cam filmmakers. You are the new Hollywood for some of us
VGHS is one of the most important shows of my life. I loved that shit with my whole heart.
Video Game HighSchool was a great experience that i wish i could watch again for the first time.
Here's the thing though, you can still make the stuff your UA-cam fans like while also doing more traditional shorts that you can send out to festivals to win awards. After a festival run, release it on UA-cam.
You can still put up BTS stuff on your channel to keep people engaged with your channel while working on these projects to garner acclaim in the industry, but you don't. You don't need to focus on a feature think smaller do shorts that are specifically designed for festivals. Corridor Digitals short "ROT" would have been perfect for festivals instead it was just released on UA-cam.
I don't know if it's black and white like that. You gotta keep the content coming on UA-cam with our 3 min attention spans nowadays or people forget about you. It takes corridor 5-6 people employed full time to keep their operation running. And if you're gonna do something more serious/traditional you'll probably want to invest a lot of time. I get your point but I understand their frustrations also.
@@anemoiacApache true but why hire these content creator to just do UA-cam videos? Why invest all this money in camera equipment just for UA-cam videos? Majority of people are watching on their phones so there is no need for these 100k cameras and lenses to just make UA-cam videos.
Content on the main Corridor channel is few and far between, so the majority of content is coming from the crew channel so again keep pumping content there out especially with BTS for shorts going into festivals and after the festival run you release it on UA-cam. Content on their main channel (which is now Crew since it's the only channel with consistency) won't be affected and on the original channel you'll hopefully have awards to show in the thumbnails of the new shorts.
But honestly what has Rocket Jump done lately (besides ACD)? I'm subscribed but nothing even hits my inbox. They could they could easily apply the step I listed above to push quality content and be seen in the industry as more than just UA-camrs.
@@MoonDoggie82 I feel like after 2 years of festival runs, your video won't do well anymore on youtube. And the majority that watches on their phones means you want less quality and depth in colors and difference between light and dark? Make it easier for yourself to do visual effects while having more flexible working experience and more experience on the high-end level, why would they NOT use better equipment? Should they just do Vines then? Or TicTok? No. It's their brand and their lvl of professionality and quality is what got them this far.
@@CharleyBoersen I'm not saying don't use the expensive stuff and not to go for great quality. What I'm saying is that there are options. Even if it's one short a year, you want more recognition in the industry and not just be seen as UA-camrs then do something about that. Your film shouldn't be in the festival circuit for more then a year.
Like right now what is Corridor working on? Besides the podcast (which shouldn't have it's own channel) what projects are they working on? "Man vs Horse" was a month ago and "Did you see our tv commercial" should have been on the Corridor Crew channel. The last real shorts the did that weren't just skits were ROT (10 months ago), Urban Zelda (4 moths ago) and The Moth (3 months ago). The Spider-Man short was done by their intern.
I would trust these guys with making a movie but industry folks would probably see all the skits and be like yeah that's good enough for commercials. Of course keep making the skits but isn't that the easy stuff at this point?
@@anemoiacApache But you and most people here simply don't understand that you don't have to appeal to everyone - that's what Hollywood does and why Hollywood sucks.
The future of filmmaking is crowd funding.
Freddie Wong was a force in the UA-cam industry
Love this content
Honestly new media is and always will be seen as a different arm of the industry. As I finish up my last year of film school I’m reminded how throughout my experience we’ve always been told that new media stuff like youtube is it’s own thing and if you want to go that route then go do so, but know that you won’t be involved in anything traditional unless you go the traditional route
Here’s the thing: there’s more traditional content now than ever before with Netflix, Hulu, Disney +, HBO Max, Peacock, Qubi, etc. If these guys want the freedom to be funded for their own projects, they need to pay their dues in traditional media. Direct a show for the Disney channel, then Freeform, then CBS, then Netflix. Keep striving for bigger budgets. Once you direct one tentpole series ($8m+ episodic budget) you will be able to direct more. Then you can pitch yourself as the director of Stranger Things rather than Videogame High School and you can get financing for your solo film. You aren’t going to be able to jump the line with UA-cam credits but you can get your foot in the door and then pay your dues for a few years. If you want it, you can get it.
For those of you who realize you have nowhere near the talent Freddy has and are thinking, "Well, what chance is there for me?" Take heart. In my experience, the level of talent often does not correspond to the level of success. I have benefited from this sad fact.
Freddie's facts are gold - proof you guys do it for the passion and love of it, that's why fans back you guys
God i remember the times i just binged all Freddiew and Corridor Digital videos cause of their astonishing editing