If Harely Davidson re does the sportster line up they will be able to compete. Small inexpensive bikes are what is needed. No body in today's world wants to drop car money on a bike.
Zach Hard to negotiate bikes that just came out with high demand which was the Fat Bob in question. Of course you can negotiate the Dyna.. They discontinued the line, lol.
Full disclosure. I work for Harley Davidson of Montgomery. Brandon test rode with me in his video. I've watched his videos through his whole process and he's got some great points. The only thing I don't agree with is the Scout Bobber vs. Fat Bob debate is not an apples to apples comparison. A proper comparison would be a Forty Eight vs. the Bobber. They are more alike. Therefore, the price argument isn't valid because the Forty Eight is in the same spec class and price range as his Scout Bobber. I understand that the bikes he rode were bikes he was considering buying, so he picked what he liked. I just wanted to comment on that. I'm a motorcycle enthusiast like everyone else, so I can appreciate your point of view. You like it, I love it! Thanks for considering Harley Davidson and enjoy your Scout Bobber! You're still welcome to stop by the shop and hang brother since you don't have a shop locally! Haha! Good work on your videos. Next time, let me know your filming gheesh!
Well, how about that. Didn't know you were out here spying on me, Marvin! Lol! But yes, you're right! The Scout/Fat Bob aren't apples to apples. Not entirely a fair comparison. That said, I'll be down one of these days and come by haha! Maybe I can get a longer test ride on the Fat Bob ;).
Performance wise the 48 compares to the Scout 60 which is only $9k. The Scout performance wise, most closely competes with the Vrod while being priced like the Sportster 1200. There is no apples to apples comparison between a Scout and anything in the HD lineup. The Scout is just more bike for your money hands down.
Once again, not true. Scout 60 is a 60ci motor and the forty eight has a 73ci motor, so no. Vrod is a 76ci motor, so no again to that comparison. Brandon's bike is a 69ci motor, so the closest comparison to the Forty Eight. No problem if you like the Indian better, but these are what we call "alt-facts!" Lol...
Marvin Nugent either way you look at it the Sportster loses. The sixty is still faster and the Scout is faster than the 60. So for the money, the Sportster loses. At least the Vrod is faster than the Scout, not by much, but is it really worth $5k more? IMHO, no way.
I had been looking at HD for two years now and was 99.9 percent sure I was going to buy a HD, then I rode the Bobber. Guess what is sitting in the garage right now...hint...it's Thunder Black Smoke...
I took a serious look at the Scout bobber when bike shopping recently including a test ride. I really liked the idea of a lighter weight bike and the numbers on a paper were very appealing. It's a VERY good bike for the money. I ended up buying a Fat Bob 114 because 1. The Scout was too small (same with the Sportster Roadster). I'm not unreasonably sized at 6'1" 205lbs, but I much preferred the riding position on Fat Bob (and I've been told I look big on that bike!) 2. The power delivery of the Harley was more fun for the riding I do. The low end torque is just pure joy to use and I do a lot of 2 up riding. 3. Money was not an issue. Not trying to brag but I was only going to buy one bike and while the Scout was nice "for the money" the Harley appealed to me more and I felt was the better bike.
Heck yeah. Glad that there's some Fat Bob love. I'm not against the Fat Bob at all. I have a smaller build and either would have worked for me. The Scout appealed more to me like the Fat Bob to you. Both are fantastic bikes.
I bought a Fat Bob 114. it will kill anything off the line stock in it's class. After a Dyno session, I was getting 120 to 125 lbs of torque. Not only that, the suspension is hard to beat. The Fatbob has Inverted forks, dual front brakes, mono shock with sag adjustment, fully adjustable front forks, a rear floating brake rotor, key FOB system, and mine came with GPS tracking. Also part of the reason Harley's cost more are the materials. There are WAY more steel/metal parts than other bikes. Also, the FatBob has a throttle-by-wire system. The FatBob come stock with Dunlop D429 tires. I have had this bike in the rain, on muddy roads, gravel, etc... More versatile than other cruisers I have tried. The Scout by comparison is not a performance based machine in any way. Harley's have changed. I upgraded from a 2015 Harley Breakout which was also a fine bike. I also own a Concours C14 and a VFR800, so I would not consider myself a Harley fanboy. Indians are cool. But comparing a Scout to a Fat Bob is not really a fair comparison...LOL
I respect the love you have for the Fat Bob 114! Your love for the Fat Bob is like me with my Suzuki M109R! End of the day, if power wasn't a factor, Harley wouldn't be selling 114/117 kits. They gotta make that Fat Bob seem somewhat competitive, right? :)
Power was not the only factor. There are many choices for cruisers. Most of them are the same. I have been in the market for a power cruiser. I have looked at Goldwing Valkyrie, Triumph Rocket 3, Vmax, etc... The Harley is a more versatile bike but will hang in that category. I can cruise on it, short range tour on it, do aggressive twisties on it, hit some dirt road on it, drag it, etc.... This is more than a cruiser bike. This is a sport cruiser bike. Comparing this to an Indian Scout which is just a cruiser is just not a fair comparison. Now, if you were comparing your bike to a Breakout, I could go for that.
phineashenshaw You're downplaying a bike that has a better power to weight ratio than yours and cost less 😂😂. Don't think that torque number will trump alone with an extra 100 pounds. If the Scout Bobber isn't a sport cruiser then the Fat Bob isn't either. They're both Bobbers except one cost more and needs kits to claim it's competing performance wise. And did you just put the Fat Bob in the same category as the Rocket 3 and Vmax?.. In the same category as the XDiavel? Nah, not even close.
I own a Councors C14. It Dynoed at 165 HP and 100lbs of Torque. My Fatbob killed it until it topped out in speed. I use to own VMax It is along the same specs as the Concours. with a few more horse power.
phineashenshaw Interesting.. That 120-125 lbs of torque will do that. What else did you do to your Fat Bob to get that? Harley is claiming 92 hp and 114 lbs
I just got a Scout. Awesome set of wheels. Light and maneuverable, comfortable seating position and all the power I need. I couldn’t ask for a better package for the price. I put a set of Viking Saddlebags and a Dart Flyscreen on it. Now it does what I need.
Great video and information. I watched another video that stated that the bike tends to lean right. Have you experienced that issue, either left or right lean, when riding straight?
I've encountered that but only when my hands are off the bars. Just a thing with the big front tire. I've had it up to highway speeds without stability issues.
Im in the same boat as you were. Im in the market for a bike and both are in the running. I think price for me also is going to play a big factor. The fat bob is really comfortible, how is your scout as far as comfort goes?
Hey Brandon, I am looking to pick up a Scout Bobber in the coming days. However, I just have one concern which is keeping me from going for it. I like going for long rides on weekends. 200-300 miles at times. Is the Scout Bobber's suspension travel too uncomfortable (I don't want plushy, being able to sit on a couch at the end of the ride will do just fine) for that?
And I am coming from a Royal Enfield Himalayan with 200mm and 180mm of front and rear suspension respectively. Moved to the US from India and wanted to pick up something American, which will help me enjoy these awesome roads. Fell in love with this bike at first sight but the only hiccup was the suspension. I think I'll live with it. Thanks!
Hello Brandon, question. I was thinking about getting a Harley but this bike is awesome...the only thing I wonder is size since there are no Indian dealers here and I can't walk in and size it up...I don't want to look like a circus bear on a trike.... how tall are you? just so I can compare...I am only average 5"9 and 190lb. 32 inch inseam on the legs so they are short...maybe this is a good size for me vs a Harley breakout. and cheaper too....what are your thoughts? thanks for the vids!
@@BrandonBicasso thanks for the response! How are they getting on? I have pretty wide hands / big knuckles so most gloves are a pain in the ass to get on due to the openings always seeming small.
Brandon Bicasso, thanks, I’ll get these before my rider’s safety course. I am considering the Arai Defiant helmet, and Bates Beltline boots. I haven’t chosen a jacket and pants yet.
I know youtube is funky with comments.. anyhow noticed a few cool things after looking at the scout manual. 1. It's cool they made the motor with a dipstick, so inspecting oil level is simple. 2. Oil filter location is in a good place. 3. Manual has a good list of items to lube, and when .. good info most skip offer.. ditto in my yamaha manual. 4. Still impressed with the 10k intervals for oil, but I see they use synthetic blend. I'm curious let us know how the oil is when u hit the 10k mark. Overall seems like a low maintenance bike. I did a demo vlog on a (kind of bobber) hard seat Indian Scout.. would have loved that as a 2nd ride... it's in my test rides section if you ever wanna check it out. Stay safe.
UA-cam is hella funky with comments. How the hell did I miss this. Anyway, yes.. Never dealt with a bike with a long service interval. Will be interesting to see how it performs at 5K. The M109R lets you know when it's time. Rides rough as hell.
I have just ordered a Scout Bobber and have been looking for channels. Found Dazzle Rebel Rides and now your channel and looking forward to seeing your adventures.
You can't go wrong with either. I just picked between the Fat Bob 114 and Scout Bobber. Bobbers looks are classic and very good looking bobber/cruiser. Fat Bob is the perfect mix of classic Harley and new school Harley. Crusier and sportbike. Performance on the two are great, scout bobber will shock you for a 1200cc but the 114 feels to pull so hard from down low. To sum it up, I ended up getting the 114, out the door, for only 4k over the scout bobber out the door... as well as a few upgrades I negotiated in the deal. The Indian dealerships were not very willing to give a deal on any Bobber in the area. If the OTD prices were on a level playing field, I'd still be thinking about which to get. Sick bike, man. They are great.
You’re enlightened. The constant trend for more power at the expense of more weight and larger dimensions is counter intuitive to what makes motorcycles so fun in city riding situations (not touring). Handling, flickability and so many daily rider factors make bikes like a Scout a better choice than a large, heavy bike.
I was at the H-D shop today, the only thing pushing me towards them is the style which they have nailed and cant deny! I have test rode the Octane and was in love! Bobber took the Octane to the next level by style! I currently ride a Gray 2014 Yamaha BOLT R-Spec and I love it! I just really want to upgrade to something that at least the same in power but more comfort and more style! I should just go to the Indian in the morning!
The Scout Bobber is fantastic but the Fat Bob will definitely be more comfortable. Styling is subjective, but the Fat Bob definitely has that Harley ice.
Harley Davidson bikes are nice but over the years I feel Harley stopped going with the consumer confidence that built them. Indian you stand out of the crowd. My personal view is it doesn't matter what you ride as long as you ride and get the smiles per mile to make it worth while. The thunder stroke 111 is what Harley is in competition with. Indian gives you more bang for your buck. Kodos to you. Your videos are fresh and new. Keep up the good work.
I rode both. I'de take the 117 Fat Bob over the Indian Scout Bobber. The Bobber revs good but the Fat bob is way more torquey and way comfier. It is a lot heavier but that just adds to its stability and subsequent riding comfort.
Brandon Bicasso in Australia I can get the Indian for $19k the fatbob for 28k and the 2016 xdiavel for $24k and the xdiavel s for $27. On these numbers would you still take the Indian? Cheers
Dang, the Indian is expensive there. It is 12k here and 25k for the XDS. If the numbers are that close I'd go with the X if you could afford the difference. Big thing to note is the maintenance and warranty on the XDS. You're looking at another 2k possibly in a service plan. The Indian can be serviced yourself if you know how to inspect things and change oil.
You could also do the work yourself on the X as well. When the one year warranty runs out in the X, you'd probably want to get it extended which could cost another 1k.
Brandon Bicasso I'm on board with you... The justification of the difference in cost. The gap in cost is too big. Looks wise I love both. I'm probably more attracted to the Fat Bob overall with the lighting and it just looks solidly built. It screams tough. Obviously power with the option for a 114 is a plus, and too be honest I live 2 miles away from Harley, where as Indian is about 1.5 hrs away. Still though 12k to 16k is the main thing. I want a bike that I will be keeping for at least 6-8 yrs and one that can handle a little bit of everything.
You may want to recheck on the self adjusting valves. I have a Scout and I believe the valve adjustment is at 40k. As far as power you can have that Scout at about 120 crank up and around 90 lb/ft of torque for a little over a grand. A good set of 2 into 1 high flow pipes, Trask intake and the Dynojet PVCX will get you there.
Brandon Bicasso most of the 2 into ones come with new headers I believe. A set of Crushed Mavericks will do almost the same thing with stock headers. I can't wait till they figure out some hotter cams for this engine though.
Brandon Bicasso And yes, 40k for a valve adjustment isn't bad. Most people never even put that mileage on a bike. I'll be at about 25k on mine by the time it is 2 years old and this motor has run like a champ, so I'm definitely not complaining. You made a great decision and I'm sure you'll be very happy with it.
Absolutely happy with it! I'm definitely looking at the options for exhaust. Really like the Trask slip ons. Not sure if I wanna mess with the headers, though. Air filter, PC and slip-ons... What do you think?
I'd do the PVCX vs a PC. The PVCX keeps the closed loop fuel injection and is easier to install. No wiring no fuss, 15 minutes and done. It uses the same maps as the PC and is comparable in price. Otherwise, yes you should be very happy with that setup.
same here...hope it helps! Very cool review! Went through the same process, looks like we were walking a shared path, HD Fat Boy (Triumph Boneville was in the game, too) vs Scout. Happily bought the regular ABS Scout in 2017, having a beer, I am forgetting the HD. No regrets! Riding 500 miles...the cheaper Crusher exhaust came on. They cause fewer issues with passengers pegs, just to mention, which was important after the initial rage by partner :) . So, no H&V grenades. Happy riding and greetings from Michigan, where riding is at least a month away. Your Videos take away some of that pain. See you on the road! Subscribed now. Post more!
Thanks, Bjoem. I plan on posting more! The passenger pegs is a big reason why I went with the Trask slip ons. Even though I may/may not have a passenger, I'd rather have the capability.
you got the best deal. Indian a great bobber. Lean angle in fat bob is 31% left 32 % right. Honda Goldwing has 40%. Of the 2018 HD, I like the street bob even if it has crap lean angle
I can’t argue with you .. the price difference would have been something I’d have to consider big time also . An extra 4 to 6 k for...... Unless the Fatbob is the look n style you like .. I am curious what oil they use that they say 10k oil changes. On my Vstar 1300 I’m swapping oil every 4k..
The Scout Bobber uses 15W-60. I was thinking regular oil like my Suzuki M109R. That one shocked me. Also, the Fat Bob looks great to me. That alone isn't enough for me, though.
It all does not matter. If you like how fatbob looks like and make u feel it doesnt matter how cheap you are if you go with something else you will not be fullfilled and at some point you will change bike again untill you get what makes you feel right. I got new gs bmw with all spec and still iam not haply looking at fat bob and want it every time. I will end up buyin one I know.
I do enjoy the bike you have (yet to test ride but honestly I would mind hearing a comparison of your bikes) because in Australia they sell for a similar price)
Like your vids bro! I'm 99% going to get the Scout bobber. Just had the motorcycle show here in N.Y and got a chance to get on it and check it out up close. I really appreciate your vid about the slip on exhaust ! I was looking at the whole exhaust system but you have steered me to those slip ons, bike sounds awesome!
I agree with you, I just bought a 2017 m109r (thanks to your videos) love the comfort and definitely the power, can't picture buying another cruiser for all I got in the m109, thanks again!
Harley Davidson has held its trade mark authentication! Quality!!! Indian went out of business for a long streak, because of Harley. Polaris brought back the Indians, but Harley is still Harley. You pay for what you buy. You can buy authentic Jordan's at footlocker or look alike at pay-less. Harley-Davidson stopped selling to civilians during WWII to produce war motorcycles only. Of course its lighter due to the added plastic. You failed to add that part. But every individual selects what suits there needs. Good video for discussion.
Uel De Gudman, Yeah that's the MSRP throughout the US, but Brandon obviously played hardball with them and got them to take much less on a newly released model. Kudos to Brandon!
As a Fatbob owner, no dislikes from me. I'm over 6 foot and the Indian is just a bit on the small side and the ergonomics are great on the Fatbob. But you touch on the issues that really piss me off with Harley that will ultimately be the death of them. They are taking their customers for a ride (excuse the pun) when it comes to the price. What makes the mockery of the customer worse is that when you pay a premium you then are forced to spend additional cash just to get the bike up to spec. If I'm to spend $27K (Australian) on a bike you'd expect it to come with a decent exhaust, decent performance but hell no. You have to shell out another grand for an exhaust, spend another 2K to upgrade the engine so it eeks out some performance from a nearly 1800cc engine. It's a joke. I won't be buying a Harley again. I'll be heading over to the Triumph dealer. Keep up the good work brother :)
I like the Bobber way more based on looks the way it feels and handles; from some of the videos I’ve watched. The only problem I have or concern is that polaris. They dropped Victory in just under 10 years, because their last 4 years were not so profitable. So I’m wondering how long they will give Indian motorcycles before they pull the plug if they don't see the numbers they want.
They pulled the plug on Indian since Indian/Victory were too much alike. Indian made bank while Victory didn't. Just didn't make sense to have both instead of taking DNA from one and putting it into the other. Aside from that, Indian is on track for substantial growth. I don't expect to see Indian going away for awhile. Harley is struggling with numbers and Indian producing/selling more. Harley was used to pushing out bikes with no one to challenge it, but with Indian/Victory here it's not that simple anymore.
Victory debuted in 1998, Indian in 1901. Polaris helped develop victory as a moto company and brand. Polaris bought Indian in 2011 and has stopped developing victory as of 2017. I do agree it is a better choice to go with Indian because of its legacy and several more years as a proven moto. I don't see Polaris dropping Indian any time soon since they spent about 18 years developing a moto. From the article I read it seems there main concern for Polaris is profit and shares in the market. Not saying HD is any different, but it can make me uneasy when making a purchase for something to be dropped. Good thing Indians have mainly the same power train as the victories. Again thanks for the response and ride with the wind.
I tested both. The scout won hands down. Bearing in mind I am only 5'7" and 155lbs. My last power cruiser was a 2003 v_rod bought when new, why buy another??
i got my fat bob right after the 19's came out so they had the 18's discounted pretty low. I was out the door around 15,000 I got the 107 and love it but wish I had ridden the 114 just to see the difference.
You got a heck of a deal on a great bike! I've never ridden the 107, but can say the 114 is punchy. If I went with the Fat Bob or FXDR, I'd go 114. Good buy, though!
😁😁😁 Man, you we're enjoying it so much..warm even! Haha and I had always wanted to try it...just never got around to it, so I went to BevMo and grabbed a case. Good stuff bro! Not your usual swill that's for sure. One of my favorites now. 🖒
I’ve tested the fat bob and I love it, but it’s too much money that my local shop won’t negotiate. I’ll test the bobber this Friday. I will probably get one of them. But the money.....
I’ve done the test and I think it’s like comparing God to a gipsy. The scout has a horrible rear suspension and brake. I drove fast in the rain and the bike slipped a couple of times. The materials are different. I’m going to have to pay the money... thank you anyway for your opinion.
I test ride the Fat Bob because it's so close to me. Haven't gone up to Ride the Scout. That's my fault though, just the drive up sucks. I'm honestly most likely leaning towards the HD. If the Indian dealership was closer it'll be be a much tougher decision. With that said, I'm may stay in the Softail lineup but perhaps the Lowrider. A bit cheaper, way bigger tank, I hate the handlebars but that can be changed.
Brandon Rush It's a bit tough out the box. It's leather. Once it's broken in it feels okay. Probably better seats out there but not bad at all for a stock seat.
Forget about crank torque numbers. They are meaningless to a rider. If you need more torque to pull a stump or give a fatty a ride, then downshift. That will get you more torque at the rear wheel where you can use it. Fat Bob weighs about 22% more than the Harley, but makes about double the power at low rpms. All else being equal, the Harley will run away from the Scout from a dead stop...until it hits its redline and has to shift. At that point, the Indian will blow by and never look back. It depends how you like your power delivered. For stop light bandits, the Harley is likely the better tool. For actual riding, the acceleration at speed will be better with the Indian. The Fat Bob has an excellent suspension and corners great, but because of all the low end power, one has to be judicious with the throttle as it has no traction control and it wouldn't be hard to break the tire loose leaned over in a corner. I'd surmise the Scout engine would be better at twisty road riding without the huge bottom end power. Not sure it has the suspension chops or cornering clearance of the Fat Bob though. And the Fat Bob fits me like a glove. Uber comfy. From what I read, the Scout requires 20k miles valve checks. Harley uses hydraulic lifters and doesn't need them or coolant changes. Other maintenance is similar with Harley requiring oil in more holes. I'd concur the Indian is the far better bang for the buck. Harley is rightfully proud of their new creations, but maybe a little too proud in a field where the competition is putting out the best bikes ever at 40-50% less. Good subject!
The Fat Bob has a few more degrees of clearance than the Scout. I went ripping through some backroads a few days ago on the Scout and had no issues. However, in town I scrapped pegs on a lot of intersection turns.
You did the right choice, although Harley Fat bob is also a cool machine, Harley has killed of the-comparable machine, and the best Harley ever, the V-Rod, The Indian Scout Bobber looks better, than the Fat bob,, (and even the V-rod) - which should not be underestimated on a cruiser type bike. Enjoy!
Indian has been around longer than Harley... Not counting when it went out of business.... I've have had plenty of Harleys lots of miles... I would love to have a dark Horse but leaning towards the chieftain.... But where I live lots of gravel I've sat on the scout it was small... but I'm 6 foot 4.... I'm looking forward to the flat track Version maybe a little taller and just bad lol.... It might be the perfect fit....
Either of those are great choices. Just make sure you get the one that fits your build. Sucks to ride something that's uncomfortable no matter what it is.
I also loved the breakout stance and fat Bob beefy look . Harley Right ! I looked at the boober Indian before seeing your videos. I'm 50 now so money for my toy not Mom's is a big factor . Don't need as much approval / acceptance from friends / guys . Always Loved Indians , and think it's the perfect bike for me at this time in life . Wish me luck with Ol Girl . Thanks for your fair and reasonable review . Happy riding ✌️😎
Brandon Bicasso 😁😁😁No you didn't brother, but other people talk trash about Indian as if they're following Harley Davidson when it's really the other way around.. Great videos man! I'm thinking about getting that Indian...but thinking I might be too tall, I'm 6'6" so might have to find one and test it, see how it feels.
great video. I subscribed. I feel the same about prices. I have a 2012 Victory Hammer 8 Ball I got for $6k with new tires in excellent condition and as much as I did like the Fatbob I went with my used Victory. I got a cruiser to suit my needs and didn't have to break the bank. was nice to just write a check and pay the bike off outright than finance such a large amount.
Gill Grylls Exactly! You found something that suited your wants/needs! I love it! We aren't against the Fat Bob, but we won't ignore that mark up either.
Harley dug itself into a hole. They catered so much to a specific group, and now that the group is diminishing, they don't know whether to move forward or stay where they are.
Cool video. I agree 100% on your reasons for getting the Scout. Although I do prefer the Fat Boy instead of the Fat Bob if a choice had to be made. Harley prices are a bit on the high side. All in all, I'll keep my Springfield for its comfort although it is a bit hefty in weight. LOL... Ride safe bro and enjoy...
I have a Suzuki Boulevard M109R, it is a 2015, and it outguns any Harley I agree the Harleys have great styling, they are very cool and sick bikes, but they're just way over priced I would get one in a heartbeat if they were reasonably priced My 2nd bike is a scooter, as I mentioned to you previously, I'm looking for a 3rd bike, a nimble sporty bike with belt drive Enjoy your Indian Scout Have a good one
Nice choice with the Scout Bobber! The Fat Bob is pretty cool as well, but for the price they want for it, there are plenty other bikes that will do much more for way less money. I will tell you that the Victory Octane was pretty darn quick when I took one for a test ride. Great video!
I haven't ridden the Octane, but it has a few more points in the torque area. Great bike. I considered it, but went with the new and fresh look of the Scout Bob.
Sound reasoning. When you start looking at an HD price to power it's never going to stand up to cheaper bikes...that already have decent power to boot. You have to really want an HD and be in love with the style. That said, I think I'd bite on the new Fat boy 114, that's a sexy looking machine. I didn't realize you could get a 117 kit and make that much more power? Wow! Here in Canada that set up would likely push me over 30k though since base price is around 25k!
Yes, the 117 kit is impressive, but with a cost. And while I was looking at it from my pov, I can't knock how well put together the Fat Bob is. Really really nice machine.
You can get that performance for about $14,500 with ABS with just a few bolt-ons and a tune. Still won't have the torque the HD does due to the engine being almost half the size but you'll never want for power on a 120hp Scout.
I like your videos BUT ... stating that the Bobber is better because you didn’t want to spend more is missleading! Also, your assessment is faulty since The 2018 fatbob has been named cruiser of the year in US, Australia and Europe... lastly HP doesn’t equal power! Torque does! Especially on this type of bike! HP with no torque behind it is not ideal for these types of bikes! Now the bobber is a great bike but it’s meant to compete with sportster 48 and iron not with fatbob
Cool. That's your opinion. But also know that you could spec out a Scout Bobber with similar parts and still come out cheaper than the Fat Bob. AND, the power to weight ratio on the Scout Bobber is better than the Fat Bob 107 and 114. People can sugar coat it all they want.. If the Fat Bob 114 can't even compete with my 2007 M109 on the spec sheet while my Bobber can on the street then it still makes the Fat Bob look worse. The Scout Bobber is comparable to the Fat Bob, end of story. It blows the iron and Sportster out the water.
Brandon Bicasso i agree about building up but you were talking about stock to stock! If thats the case then i can build my fatbob up as well! I respect your opinion But i dont have to agree! Especially when the world has name the Bob BEST in 2018! So you may like more yours and in your eyes is better but that doesn’t make it so! Btw i paid 16 for mine! Double disk brakes, abs, keyless, LED, alarm system and more! Lastly! Handling! The bobber has a 29 lean angle to the left and i asume about 27 to the right since the pipes are so low! Fatbob has a 32.2 both ways! Im glad you are happy with the bobber! Good on you! Your reasons didn’t convince me! ;) I can see how the bobber could be called better than sportster 48! That could be an argument I could agree with you!
Brandon Bicasso lol well comparing a sportster class bike to the top of the line mid weight Harley-Davidson offers then bashing the price is like saying you drove a challenger and a corolla and bought the corolla because of the price.
Zach Either way, buy what you like! I'm not against HD. Love HD. Just overpriced and I'm not willing to pay the price for it.. Simple. Doesn't mean one can't afford it.
Test rides the fat bob 114, never goes over 50 mph and rides like a grandma; got an idea of everything the engine has to offer! Lmao, ok.. You bought the Indian because of the price, let’s be honest here. If they were the same price, you’d be riding the fat bob..
Ridden harleys all my life and know the engine problems well. My fairly new twincam is almost equal to my 1980 shovelhead, minus electronics. Harley should have kept the vrod engine. Big mistake. My next bike is an Indian.
I have ridden both, The scout is a far better purchase than the HD Sportster you can't ague that but the Fat Bob is in a different league to the Scout, The Scout pulls to the right the weight balance in the frame is wrong its a serious issue that most people posting on here are totally unaware of because they haven't ridden the bike, The suspension on the Scout is crude and harsh compared to the Fat Bob, I have just taken delivery of a Fat Bob 114 and fitted a full race exhaust system the torque is massive and straight line acceleration will leave the Scout for dead, Not saying the Scout is a bad bike its very good for the price but to say its better than the Fat Bob is crass and idiotic
+matt kane Sounds like the Scout you rode had low tire pressure. I don't experience any pulling on mine unless I'm coasting to a stop. Suspension, sure.. I'm used to it coming from a M109R. As far as performance, my M109R has stock 114 numbers (well, more actually) and my Scout hangs on both the low and top end. So, I think it comes down to seeing both the Fat Bob and Scout together.
matt kane I have posted a scout review and ridden pritty much every he available. Even bikes that don't exist any more. While I did no love the scout. video had already been posted by reputable sources on 0-60 type speed. The scout is way lighter and as a result is faster. The hd may be a better bike. But it is not faster in a straight line.
I test Road both of those new bikes the Indian Scout seems a little small for me I'm only 5 7 but maybe I'm just used to riding bigger bikes it seems like fun but if you going to do any long distance definitely not the bike for that. But then again neither is the Fat Bob.
If it's small for you, then it is tiny for me. I'm 5'10", lol. And yeah, it's not meant for long distance persay, but it is capable with the offered accessories.
Fatbob is a performance based bike not a cruiser, hints the 32 degree lean angle on the FatBob, I do agree the price on the fatbob is a bit too high, would like to see the 114 around the 15-16k mark instead of closer to 20k. But your title is full of shit, the only way the scout bobber is "better" is being cheaper than the FatBob. But regardless, gratz on the new bike.
Some of the other Harley diehards claimed that horsepower numbers didn't matter.. yet Harley has a 114/117 etc. kit. Rubbish. Ride both. I'm not bashing the quality and performance of the Fat Bob, just saying the Scout is faster and is a better deal. Looking forward to the new Harley line up as well.
Kind of a head scratcher of a comparison.. Harley has a bike that is about the same size, about the same cost, it's called the 48. There's your comparison.
Nope. Just because there's a similar cost doesn't mean it's comparable. To me, anyway. And the 48 is overpriced compared to the Scout, imo. Smaller tank, less power, not as reliable (hearsay of course), more maintenance, etc. So, yeah you can compare them but I still think the Scout is comparable to the Fat Bob.
This Statement that the Indian scout Bobber is better than the 2018 HD Fat Bob is total garbage i have ridden both the bikes they are incomparable ,It might be better for your pocket,This sounds like its coming from someone bitter they can't afford the bike they really want,It might be better value than a HD Sportster as they are similar price thats a better comparison
I've never really been a Harley fan, i have a 2008 HD Rocker that i got new but it has like 1200 miles on it, i think it looks better than it rides. I've always been more into the Indian and the Yamaha cruisers I have a 2003 Indian Chief 2010 Indian Chief Bomber 2014 Indian Chief vintage & a pair of 2002 Yamaha v star's 650 and 1100, the 650 if my wife but i still enjoy the 1100 also. I also have a 2005 Honda CBR 600 F4i which is fun to ride now and then. I have always found Harley to be unattractive in appearance, there is no sex in a Harley anymore, my 2008 HD Rocker C, that was a sexy bike but as you can see by the 1200 miles i don't drive it. Indian on the other hand, be it Gilroy, Kings Mountain or Polaris, they all are sexy as hell and ride amazing. HD's new 2018 lineup actually did nothing to bring me closer to HD models, but to each their own, if you like HD, good for you, you obviously don't care about aesthetics or build quality, but to each their own.
Good input! Saying Harley has lost that spark is interesting, though. Haven't heard it described that way before. You plan on selling the HD Rocker at some point since you don't ride it as much?
Brandon Bicasso - If it was up to my wife she would have me sell it now, i don't really drive it at all. Goes like a bat out of hell with full stage 1 V&H pipes and heavy breather along with stage 2 cams. I don't really plan on selling it just yet, I use it as a show bike, it's really the only HD that i like. It really is a gorgeous bike.
Yeah, my 25 year old is into bikes, still young and dumb and still likes the sport bikes, but who knows, maybe 1 day when i am gone he will be into my cruisers
Ummm you need ABS. If you have ever locked your wheels you would know that. Cruise control is a custom option with the FatBob 2018. In fact there are so many custom options with any Harley. In the end, Harley offer a lot, things like style, customisation, character, not to mention kudos and HOG culture, old tech charm, the list goes on really. Yes you pay more, but you also get more in many different ways.
I sure have and no... you don't "need" abs. If it was a need it would be standard on every bike and probably law. And yeah, cruise control is nice. The Triumph Bobber has a good amount of added customizations too.
Dude. Love your vids. Really I DO. BUT I love the new 2018 Softails. They rock. Even tho the $$$ money is a little cray I still love the Harleys. Peace.
I do want to come back to you and say that for the $$$ You made the right choice. HD is great but nobody wants to put car money into a bike unless they are rich. Which of course most of us are not, explains why HD stock continues to drop. HD just doesn't seem to understand the demographic. They DO build great bikes they are just way Overpriced to the gills. I like your Bobber man, you saved a ton of $$$ and you get the same great ride as you would on the 2018 HD Fatbob. Good work on your vids, keep them coming you do good work bro. Peace!
To each their own, no point in passing around the hateraide. I wish my scout's fit and finish were done by harley, Indian skipped a few corners frankly. But for the price Harley has nothing that will touch it on the handling and performance side of things.
If Harely Davidson re does the sportster line up they will be able to compete. Small inexpensive bikes are what is needed. No body in today's world wants to drop car money on a bike.
Yep, while the Fat Bob was aimed at the younger crowd, we don't want to spend upwards of 20K on it, That's absurd.
Brandon Bicasso I did a vlog called harely davidson, motorcyles for rich kids. Addresses this exact issue. Would love to hear your take on it.
Hmm, interesting points. Stay tuned on my response.
Got my 2017 FXDLS for 16k, 18300 sticker, problem is people don't how to negotiate.
Zach Hard to negotiate bikes that just came out with high demand which was the Fat Bob in question. Of course you can negotiate the Dyna.. They discontinued the line, lol.
Full disclosure. I work for Harley Davidson of Montgomery. Brandon test rode with me in his video. I've watched his videos through his whole process and he's got some great points. The only thing I don't agree with is the Scout Bobber vs. Fat Bob debate is not an apples to apples comparison. A proper comparison would be a Forty Eight vs. the Bobber. They are more alike. Therefore, the price argument isn't valid because the Forty Eight is in the same spec class and price range as his Scout Bobber. I understand that the bikes he rode were bikes he was considering buying, so he picked what he liked. I just wanted to comment on that. I'm a motorcycle enthusiast like everyone else, so I can appreciate your point of view. You like it, I love it! Thanks for considering Harley Davidson and enjoy your Scout Bobber! You're still welcome to stop by the shop and hang brother since you don't have a shop locally! Haha! Good work on your videos. Next time, let me know your filming gheesh!
Well, how about that. Didn't know you were out here spying on me, Marvin! Lol! But yes, you're right! The Scout/Fat Bob aren't apples to apples. Not entirely a fair comparison. That said, I'll be down one of these days and come by haha! Maybe I can get a longer test ride on the Fat Bob ;).
Performance wise the 48 compares to the Scout 60 which is only $9k. The Scout performance wise, most closely competes with the Vrod while being priced like the Sportster 1200. There is no apples to apples comparison between a Scout and anything in the HD lineup. The Scout is just more bike for your money hands down.
Once again, not true. Scout 60 is a 60ci motor and the forty eight has a 73ci motor, so no. Vrod is a 76ci motor, so no again to that comparison. Brandon's bike is a 69ci motor, so the closest comparison to the Forty Eight. No problem if you like the Indian better, but these are what we call "alt-facts!" Lol...
Marvin Nugent not specs, performance. The 60 has 72hp to the Sportster's 65. The power to weight of the Scout is most comparable to the VRod.
Marvin Nugent either way you look at it the Sportster loses. The sixty is still faster and the Scout is faster than the 60. So for the money, the Sportster loses. At least the Vrod is faster than the Scout, not by much, but is it really worth $5k more? IMHO, no way.
I had been looking at HD for two years now and was 99.9 percent sure I was going to buy a HD, then I rode the Bobber. Guess what is sitting in the garage right now...hint...it's Thunder Black Smoke...
It's like that sometimes. I'm glad you're enjoying it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took a serious look at the Scout bobber when bike shopping recently including a test ride. I really liked the idea of a lighter weight bike and the numbers on a paper were very appealing. It's a VERY good bike for the money. I ended up buying a Fat Bob 114 because 1. The Scout was too small (same with the Sportster Roadster). I'm not unreasonably sized at 6'1" 205lbs, but I much preferred the riding position on Fat Bob (and I've been told I look big on that bike!) 2. The power delivery of the Harley was more fun for the riding I do. The low end torque is just pure joy to use and I do a lot of 2 up riding. 3. Money was not an issue. Not trying to brag but I was only going to buy one bike and while the Scout was nice "for the money" the Harley appealed to me more and I felt was the better bike.
Heck yeah. Glad that there's some Fat Bob love. I'm not against the Fat Bob at all. I have a smaller build and either would have worked for me. The Scout appealed more to me like the Fat Bob to you. Both are fantastic bikes.
Brandon Bicasso Right on man, enjoy your beautiful bike!
I own the Fat Bob 114 and my wife has a Scout Sixty. I get the best of both worlds!
Good choice. Fat Bob 114, all day.
I bought a Fat Bob 114. it will kill anything off the line stock in it's class. After a Dyno session, I was getting 120 to 125 lbs of torque. Not only that, the suspension is hard to beat. The Fatbob has Inverted forks, dual front brakes, mono shock with sag adjustment, fully adjustable front forks, a rear floating brake rotor, key FOB system, and mine came with GPS tracking. Also part of the reason Harley's cost more are the materials. There are WAY more steel/metal parts than other bikes. Also, the FatBob has a throttle-by-wire system. The FatBob come stock with Dunlop D429 tires. I have had this bike in the rain, on muddy roads, gravel, etc... More versatile than other cruisers I have tried. The Scout by comparison is not a performance based machine in any way.
Harley's have changed. I upgraded from a 2015 Harley Breakout which was also a fine bike. I also own a Concours C14 and a VFR800, so I would not consider myself a Harley fanboy.
Indians are cool. But comparing a Scout to a Fat Bob is not really a fair comparison...LOL
I respect the love you have for the Fat Bob 114! Your love for the Fat Bob is like me with my Suzuki M109R!
End of the day, if power wasn't a factor, Harley wouldn't be selling 114/117 kits. They gotta make that Fat Bob seem somewhat competitive, right? :)
Power was not the only factor. There are many choices for cruisers. Most of them are the same. I have been in the market for a power cruiser. I have looked at Goldwing Valkyrie, Triumph Rocket 3, Vmax, etc... The Harley is a more versatile bike but will hang in that category. I can cruise on it, short range tour on it, do aggressive twisties on it, hit some dirt road on it, drag it, etc....
This is more than a cruiser bike. This is a sport cruiser bike. Comparing this to an Indian Scout which is just a cruiser is just not a fair comparison. Now, if you were comparing your bike to a Breakout, I could go for that.
phineashenshaw You're downplaying a bike that has a better power to weight ratio than yours and cost less 😂😂. Don't think that torque number will trump alone with an extra 100 pounds. If the Scout Bobber isn't a sport cruiser then the Fat Bob isn't either. They're both Bobbers except one cost more and needs kits to claim it's competing performance wise.
And did you just put the Fat Bob in the same category as the Rocket 3 and Vmax?.. In the same category as the XDiavel? Nah, not even close.
I own a Councors C14. It Dynoed at 165 HP and 100lbs of Torque. My Fatbob killed it until it topped out in speed. I use to own VMax It is along the same specs as the Concours. with a few more horse power.
phineashenshaw Interesting.. That 120-125 lbs of torque will do that. What else did you do to your Fat Bob to get that? Harley is claiming 92 hp and 114 lbs
I just got a Scout. Awesome set of wheels. Light and maneuverable, comfortable seating position and all the power I need. I couldn’t ask for a better package for the price. I put a set of Viking Saddlebags and a Dart Flyscreen on it. Now it does what I need.
Glad you got the bike you wanted! Put some miles on that stallion!
Great video and information. I watched another video that stated that the bike tends to lean right. Have you experienced that issue, either left or right lean, when riding straight?
I've encountered that but only when my hands are off the bars. Just a thing with the big front tire. I've had it up to highway speeds without stability issues.
If you decide just on price you need to factor in the residual value after a couple of years. Reckon the HD wins a lot back at that point.
Maybe so. Time will tell. Maintenance will too.
Im in the same boat as you were. Im in the market for a bike and both are in the running. I think price for me also is going to play a big factor. The fat bob is really comfortible, how is your scout as far as comfort goes?
Mm, it's fairly comfortable. It took some seat time to break in that leather. It works well for my height.
I just bought a 2018 scout bobber used. I wanted a fatbob but could not justify the price. I still want the fatbob but I am loving the bobber.
I feel it. I'm looking forward to the 2021 Harley Custom myself.
Hey Brandon, I am looking to pick up a Scout Bobber in the coming days. However, I just have one concern which is keeping me from going for it. I like going for long rides on weekends. 200-300 miles at times. Is the Scout Bobber's suspension travel too uncomfortable (I don't want plushy, being able to sit on a couch at the end of the ride will do just fine) for that?
handlebarjunkie Mmm, suspension is fine for me, but there's room for improvement. Out the box, it's stiff. Hit too hard of a bump and you'll feel it.
Coming from a M109R, I'm used to it.
And I am coming from a Royal Enfield Himalayan with 200mm and 180mm of front and rear suspension respectively. Moved to the US from India and wanted to pick up something American, which will help me enjoy these awesome roads. Fell in love with this bike at first sight but the only hiccup was the suspension. I think I'll live with it. Thanks!
Just got a Scout Rogue 60. First bike. Absolutely love it.
Hello Brandon, question. I was thinking about getting a Harley but this bike is awesome...the only thing I wonder is size since there are no Indian dealers here and I can't walk in and size it up...I don't want to look like a circus bear on a trike....
how tall are you? just so I can compare...I am only average 5"9 and 190lb. 32 inch inseam on the legs so they are short...maybe this is a good size for me vs a Harley breakout. and cheaper too....what are your thoughts? thanks for the vids!
I'm 5'10" around 175lb so we match up pretty nice! ; )
Brandon Bicasso thanks again !
How tall are you & how much do you weigh? The ergonomics are an important issue for me, I'm 6-1, 195, not sure if it will be too small... Great video!
5'10 170. Check out the extended reach handle bar, foot pegs and seat for peeps 6' and up.
What gloves are you wearing here?
Thanks!
Highway 21 Trigger Gloves
@@BrandonBicasso thanks for the response! How are they getting on? I have pretty wide hands / big knuckles so most gloves are a pain in the ass to get on due to the openings always seeming small.
@@masondillard4327 Don’t have them anymore. Wrecked in them and they held up well. Not much palm protection though.
@Brandon Bicasso, nice gloves! What manufacturer are those from?
Hey! Highway 21 Trigger Gloves
Brandon Bicasso, thanks, I’ll get these before my rider’s safety course. I am considering the Arai Defiant helmet, and Bates Beltline boots. I haven’t chosen a jacket and pants yet.
Have that gear before you get on those wheels. ; )
Congratulations on the Canal. What is the durability of this tire, how many miles?
Mm.. 4-5k miles
I know youtube is funky with comments.. anyhow noticed a few cool things after looking at the scout manual.
1. It's cool they made the motor with a dipstick, so inspecting oil level is simple.
2. Oil filter location is in a good place.
3. Manual has a good list of items to lube, and when .. good info most skip offer.. ditto in my yamaha manual.
4. Still impressed with the 10k intervals for oil, but I see they use synthetic blend. I'm curious let us know how the oil is when u hit the 10k mark.
Overall seems like a low maintenance bike. I did a demo vlog on a (kind of bobber) hard seat Indian Scout.. would have loved that as a 2nd ride... it's in my test rides section if you ever wanna check it out.
Stay safe.
UA-cam is hella funky with comments. How the hell did I miss this. Anyway, yes.. Never dealt with a bike with a long service interval. Will be interesting to see how it performs at 5K. The M109R lets you know when it's time. Rides rough as hell.
Sweet bike. W what's the mpg on that bike?
Low 30s on a bad day. Upper 30s maybe 40s when I'm friendly.
I have just ordered a Scout Bobber and have been looking for channels. Found Dazzle Rebel Rides and now your channel and looking forward to seeing your adventures.
Heck yeah, thanks Steven! Also, congrats on your purchase! You'll love it!
Picking it up Saturday, excited!
Soooo how'd it go :)
how far have you gone with the bobber I'm still looking to get a bike but I'm look to ride to San Diego one day too
Mmm.. About 130 miles in a day. I plan on making a longer ride soon.
You can't go wrong with either. I just picked between the Fat Bob 114 and Scout Bobber. Bobbers looks are classic and very good looking bobber/cruiser. Fat Bob is the perfect mix of classic Harley and new school Harley. Crusier and sportbike. Performance on the two are great, scout bobber will shock you for a 1200cc but the 114 feels to pull so hard from down low. To sum it up, I ended up getting the 114, out the door, for only 4k over the scout bobber out the door... as well as a few upgrades I negotiated in the deal. The Indian dealerships were not very willing to give a deal on any Bobber in the area. If the OTD prices were on a level playing field, I'd still be thinking about which to get. Sick bike, man. They are great.
You’re enlightened. The constant trend for more power at the expense of more weight and larger dimensions is counter intuitive to what makes motorcycles so fun in city riding situations (not touring). Handling, flickability and so many daily rider factors make bikes like a Scout a better choice than a large, heavy bike.
Do u prefer the gloss over the mat black ?
Im hesitating!! Help Bicasso
Lol, yes, I prefer gloss. Matte looks sort of cheap to me.
On this bike it does anyway. On the XDiavel I prefer the gloss black over the matte too.
I was at the H-D shop today, the only thing pushing me towards them is the style which they have nailed and cant deny!
I have test rode the Octane and was in love!
Bobber took the Octane to the next level by style!
I currently ride a Gray 2014 Yamaha BOLT R-Spec and I love it!
I just really want to upgrade to something that at least the same in power but more comfort and more style!
I should just go to the Indian in the morning!
The Scout Bobber is fantastic but the Fat Bob will definitely be more comfortable. Styling is subjective, but the Fat Bob definitely has that Harley ice.
Harley Davidson bikes are nice but over the years I feel Harley stopped going with the consumer confidence that built them. Indian you stand out of the crowd. My personal view is it doesn't matter what you ride as long as you ride and get the smiles per mile to make it worth while. The thunder stroke 111 is what Harley is in competition with. Indian gives you more bang for your buck. Kodos to you. Your videos are fresh and new. Keep up the good work.
I rode both. I'de take the 117 Fat Bob over the Indian Scout Bobber. The Bobber revs good but the Fat bob is way more torquey and way comfier. It is a lot heavier but that just adds to its stability and subsequent riding comfort.
I feel that. Enjoy it! 🔥🔥🔥
Any plans for changing those exhausts on the bobber?
Absolutely. Waiting to get out of this breakin first.
Is the Price on there to quite similar? I mean When you ad ABS, seat, suspension, LED headlamp and more??
Don't remember, but with suspension, seat, abs... head light probably about 15K.
I’m looking for a cruiser now and thinking the same. Any chance of getting similar video on xdiavel vs Indian? Thanks
No comparison, lol. XDiavel is a whole lot more bike than both the FatBob and Scout Bobber..
Brandon Bicasso in Australia I can get the Indian for $19k the fatbob for 28k and the 2016 xdiavel for $24k and the xdiavel s for $27. On these numbers would you still take the Indian? Cheers
Dang, the Indian is expensive there. It is 12k here and 25k for the XDS. If the numbers are that close I'd go with the X if you could afford the difference. Big thing to note is the maintenance and warranty on the XDS. You're looking at another 2k possibly in a service plan. The Indian can be serviced yourself if you know how to inspect things and change oil.
You could also do the work yourself on the X as well. When the one year warranty runs out in the X, you'd probably want to get it extended which could cost another 1k.
Good info. I'm on the fence between these 2 currently.
What do you value most?
Brandon Bicasso I'm on board with you... The justification of the difference in cost. The gap in cost is too big. Looks wise I love both. I'm probably more attracted to the Fat Bob overall with the lighting and it just looks solidly built. It screams tough. Obviously power with the option for a 114 is a plus, and too be honest I live 2 miles away from Harley, where as Indian is about 1.5 hrs away. Still though 12k to 16k is the main thing. I want a bike that I will be keeping for at least 6-8 yrs and one that can handle a little bit of everything.
I think both will last years without issue however the overall cost of ownership with Harley may be higher. Have you test ridden either?
You may want to recheck on the self adjusting valves. I have a Scout and I believe the valve adjustment is at 40k. As far as power you can have that Scout at about 120 crank up and around 90 lb/ft of torque for a little over a grand. A good set of 2 into 1 high flow pipes, Trask intake and the Dynojet PVCX will get you there.
Well.. heck.. even at 40K miles that's a plus compared to other manufactures, lol. Also, is that set up with or without headers?
Brandon Bicasso most of the 2 into ones come with new headers I believe. A set of Crushed Mavericks will do almost the same thing with stock headers. I can't wait till they figure out some hotter cams for this engine though.
Brandon Bicasso And yes, 40k for a valve adjustment isn't bad. Most people never even put that mileage on a bike. I'll be at about 25k on mine by the time it is 2 years old and this motor has run like a champ, so I'm definitely not complaining. You made a great decision and I'm sure you'll be very happy with it.
Absolutely happy with it! I'm definitely looking at the options for exhaust. Really like the Trask slip ons. Not sure if I wanna mess with the headers, though. Air filter, PC and slip-ons... What do you think?
I'd do the PVCX vs a PC. The PVCX keeps the closed loop fuel injection and is easier to install. No wiring no fuss, 15 minutes and done. It uses the same maps as the PC and is comparable in price. Otherwise, yes you should be very happy with that setup.
same here...hope it helps! Very cool review! Went through the same process, looks like we were walking a shared path, HD Fat Boy (Triumph Boneville was in the game, too) vs Scout. Happily bought the regular ABS Scout in 2017, having a beer, I am forgetting the HD. No regrets! Riding 500 miles...the cheaper Crusher exhaust came on. They cause fewer issues with passengers pegs, just to mention, which was important after the initial rage by partner :) . So, no H&V grenades. Happy riding and greetings from Michigan, where riding is at least a month away. Your Videos take away some of that pain. See you on the road! Subscribed now. Post more!
Thanks, Bjoem. I plan on posting more! The passenger pegs is a big reason why I went with the Trask slip ons. Even though I may/may not have a passenger, I'd rather have the capability.
you got the best deal. Indian a great bobber. Lean angle in fat bob is 31% left 32 % right. Honda Goldwing has 40%. Of the 2018 HD, I like the street bob even if it has crap lean angle
Yeah, I was thinking of the XDiavel with that 40 degree lean angle. Thanks for the correction. That puts the Scout and Fat Bob even closer.
I can’t argue with you .. the price difference would have been something I’d have to consider big time also . An extra 4 to 6 k for...... Unless the Fatbob is the look n style you like ..
I am curious what oil they use that they say 10k oil changes. On my Vstar 1300 I’m swapping oil every 4k..
The Scout Bobber uses 15W-60. I was thinking regular oil like my Suzuki M109R. That one shocked me.
Also, the Fat Bob looks great to me. That alone isn't enough for me, though.
It all does not matter. If you like how fatbob looks like and make u feel it doesnt matter how cheap you are if you go with something else you will not be fullfilled and at some point you will change bike again untill you get what makes you feel right. I got new gs bmw with all spec and still iam not haply looking at fat bob and want it every time. I will end up buyin one I know.
I do enjoy the bike you have (yet to test ride but honestly I would mind hearing a comparison of your bikes) because in Australia they sell for a similar price)
I will give you all a deep comparison between the Scout Bobber and M109R.
Like your vids bro! I'm 99% going to get the Scout bobber. Just had the motorcycle show here in N.Y and got a chance to get on it and check it out up close. I really appreciate your vid about the slip on exhaust ! I was looking at the whole exhaust system but you have steered me to those slip ons, bike sounds awesome!
They do sound awesome! Glad I could be of assistance. It was a fun install and I'm beyond pleased with the results. Stay tuned!
What brand gloves do you use???
Highway 21 Trigger Gloves
I agree with you, I just bought a 2017 m109r (thanks to your videos) love the comfort and definitely the power, can't picture buying another cruiser for all I got in the m109, thanks again!
Aww, snap! I like that! Congrats on the 109!!!!!!!!
Harley Davidson has held its trade mark authentication! Quality!!! Indian went out of business for a long streak, because of Harley. Polaris brought back the Indians, but Harley is still Harley. You pay for what you buy. You can buy authentic Jordan's at footlocker or look alike at pay-less. Harley-Davidson stopped selling to civilians during WWII to produce war motorcycles only. Of course its lighter due to the added plastic. You failed to add that part. But every individual selects what suits there needs. Good video for discussion.
$12,249 MSRP here in central California for 2018 models. You got a good deal!
Uel De Gudman, Yeah that's the MSRP throughout the US, but Brandon obviously played hardball with them and got them to take much less on a newly released model. Kudos to Brandon!
Just found the dealership that wanted to make the sale more ;)
I want one. The scout bobber looks awesome. I will have one hopefully soon.
It's a great bike for sure.
As a Fatbob owner, no dislikes from me. I'm over 6 foot and the Indian is just a bit on the small side and the ergonomics are great on the Fatbob. But you touch on the issues that really piss me off with Harley that will ultimately be the death of them. They are taking their customers for a ride (excuse the pun) when it comes to the price. What makes the mockery of the customer worse is that when you pay a premium you then are forced to spend additional cash just to get the bike up to spec. If I'm to spend $27K (Australian) on a bike you'd expect it to come with a decent exhaust, decent performance but hell no. You have to shell out another grand for an exhaust, spend another 2K to upgrade the engine so it eeks out some performance from a nearly 1800cc engine. It's a joke. I won't be buying a Harley again. I'll be heading over to the Triumph dealer. Keep up the good work brother :)
You need to turn your volume up...can't hardly hear you...
I like the Bobber way more based on looks the way it feels and handles; from some of the videos I’ve watched. The only problem I have or concern is that polaris. They dropped Victory in just under 10 years, because their last 4 years were not so profitable. So I’m wondering how long they will give Indian motorcycles before they pull the plug if they don't see the numbers they want.
They pulled the plug on Indian since Indian/Victory were too much alike. Indian made bank while Victory didn't. Just didn't make sense to have both instead of taking DNA from one and putting it into the other. Aside from that, Indian is on track for substantial growth. I don't expect to see Indian going away for awhile. Harley is struggling with numbers and Indian producing/selling more. Harley was used to pushing out bikes with no one to challenge it, but with Indian/Victory here it's not that simple anymore.
Victory debuted in 1998, Indian in 1901. Polaris helped develop victory as a moto company and brand. Polaris bought Indian in 2011 and has stopped developing victory as of 2017. I do agree it is a better choice to go with Indian because of its legacy and several more years as a proven moto. I don't see Polaris dropping Indian any time soon since they spent about 18 years developing a moto. From the article I read it seems there main concern for Polaris is profit and shares in the market. Not saying HD is any different, but it can make me uneasy when making a purchase for something to be dropped. Good thing Indians have mainly the same power train as the victories. Again thanks for the response and ride with the wind.
+Brandon Bicasso Sorry, I mean pulled the plug on Victory.
Lol. Didn’t even notice that. No worries in my original response I meant to say 18 years not 10.
You get about all of you numbers wrong dude... but other than that - thanks for you opinion on the bikes - I'm in the market for one of these as well
Is that auburn/opelika?
Or Montgomery?
Gump city 👌😎
Love your video, if money was not an issue what would you get.
XDiavel and maybe a MotoGuzzi MGX-21
My local Harley dealer in wanted 20,500 MSRP with dealer mark up minus taxes for a Fat Bob 114. So out the door they wanted basically $22,000.
Red Solo Cup absolutely... ridiculous.
I tested both. The scout won hands down. Bearing in mind I am only 5'7" and 155lbs. My last power cruiser was a 2003 v_rod bought when new, why buy another??
Well, how about that. 😎👌I am interested in test riding that new Harley Custom, though.
Next time I'm home I'm going to try all 3 but the Indian looks so so good.
You definitely should!
i got my fat bob right after the 19's came out so they had the 18's discounted pretty low. I was out the door around 15,000 I got the 107 and love it but wish I had ridden the 114 just to see the difference.
You got a heck of a deal on a great bike! I've never ridden the 107, but can say the 114 is punchy. If I went with the Fat Bob or FXDR, I'd go 114. Good buy, though!
Just bought a case of Guinness because of you man! Enjoying it now...delicious!! Never has it before, very distinct, smooth taste!
Oh, wow 😂😂😂. You make me want one now!
😁😁😁 Man, you we're enjoying it so much..warm even! Haha and I had always wanted to try it...just never got around to it, so I went to BevMo and grabbed a case. Good stuff bro! Not your usual swill that's for sure. One of my favorites
now. 🖒
I’ve tested the fat bob and I love it, but it’s too much money that my local shop won’t negotiate. I’ll test the bobber this Friday. I will probably get one of them. But the money.....
Oh, I completely understand. At the end of the day, you have to make the choice that fits you! That means what you're looking for including the price.
I’ve done the test and I think it’s like comparing God to a gipsy. The scout has a horrible rear suspension and brake. I drove fast in the rain and the bike slipped a couple of times. The materials are different. I’m going to have to pay the money... thank you anyway for your opinion.
I test ride the Fat Bob because it's so close to me. Haven't gone up to Ride the Scout. That's my fault though, just the drive up sucks. I'm honestly most likely leaning towards the HD. If the Indian dealership was closer it'll be be a much tougher decision. With that said, I'm may stay in the Softail lineup but perhaps the Lowrider. A bit cheaper, way bigger tank, I hate the handlebars but that can be changed.
How did you like the FatBob? Also, did you ride the 107/114? :D
Heading to try and haggle mine for less than $12k tomorrow :) Quick question heard a lot of complaints about the seat, any issues?
Brandon Rush It's a bit tough out the box. It's leather. Once it's broken in it feels okay. Probably better seats out there but not bad at all for a stock seat.
Also, good luck!
it looks so dang nice, I want to give it a chance. Getting rid of my Boulevard C50 hopefully tomorrow for it!
I started out on a 2006 M50. Loved that bike. Go in with a plan!
Brandon Rush
That probably comes from all of the fat bikers out there. Lol
Best value is the Indian...BUT if money is not an issue; go Harley. However, $8,000.00 is a HUGE difference.
Yep, lots of potential after market upgrades in there or heck.. spending it on something else.
Im in Australia and I otredered my Scout Bobber over a month ago and im still waiting for it. What the Hell?
Woah... Well. Crap. Have you talked to the dealership?
time to change the exhaust system bro..
Absolutely. Industrial Vacuum noises, haha.
Forget about crank torque numbers. They are meaningless to a rider. If you need more torque to pull a stump or give a fatty a ride, then downshift. That will get you more torque at the rear wheel where you can use it.
Fat Bob weighs about 22% more than the Harley, but makes about double the power at low rpms. All else being equal, the Harley will run away from the Scout from a dead stop...until it hits its redline and has to shift. At that point, the Indian will blow by and never look back.
It depends how you like your power delivered. For stop light bandits, the Harley is likely the better tool. For actual riding, the acceleration at speed will be better with the Indian.
The Fat Bob has an excellent suspension and corners great, but because of all the low end power, one has to be judicious with the throttle as it has no traction control and it wouldn't be hard to break the tire loose leaned over in a corner.
I'd surmise the Scout engine would be better at twisty road riding without the huge bottom end power. Not sure it has the suspension chops or cornering clearance of the Fat Bob though. And the Fat Bob fits me like a glove. Uber comfy.
From what I read, the Scout requires 20k miles valve checks. Harley uses hydraulic lifters and doesn't need them or coolant changes. Other maintenance is similar with Harley requiring oil in more holes.
I'd concur the Indian is the far better bang for the buck. Harley is rightfully proud of their new creations, but maybe a little too proud in a field where the competition is putting out the best bikes ever at 40-50% less.
Good subject!
The Fat Bob has a few more degrees of clearance than the Scout. I went ripping through some backroads a few days ago on the Scout and had no issues. However, in town I scrapped pegs on a lot of intersection turns.
Ride what you like! Beautiful bike brother... Ride hard or stay home😎
Exactly! No point in looking at them! Gotta get out and ride them! Also, thanks!
You did the right choice, although Harley Fat bob is also a cool machine, Harley has killed of the-comparable machine, and the best Harley ever, the V-Rod, The Indian Scout Bobber looks better, than the Fat bob,, (and even the V-rod) - which should not be underestimated on a cruiser type bike. Enjoy!
I'm enjoying every bit of it! I wouldn't mind riding a V-Rod one day. Fat Bob is still a fantastic machine, though!
Indian has been around longer than Harley... Not counting when it went out of business.... I've have had plenty of Harleys lots of miles... I would love to have a dark Horse but leaning towards the chieftain.... But where I live lots of gravel I've sat on the scout it was small... but I'm 6 foot 4.... I'm looking forward to the flat track Version maybe a little taller and just bad lol.... It might be the perfect fit....
Either of those are great choices. Just make sure you get the one that fits your build. Sucks to ride something that's uncomfortable no matter what it is.
i think you made the right decision especially for the money lol for $18,600 you can get a much better bike than a harley
Lol, exactly. Both are fantastic offerings, though.
Who pays sticker??? :-/ got a 2017 fxdls new for 16000, 18300 sticker...
Zach you would be surprised how many people actually pay sticker price... it's a lot more common than you think
Look At Me Luis lol i know I sold cars and bikes. When you get one dumb enough to sign on first pencil it's a good day ;-)
I also loved the breakout stance and fat Bob beefy look . Harley Right ! I looked at the boober Indian before seeing your videos. I'm 50 now so money for my toy not Mom's is a big factor . Don't need as much approval / acceptance from friends / guys . Always Loved Indians , and think it's the perfect bike for me at this time in life . Wish me luck with Ol Girl . Thanks for your fair and reasonable review . Happy riding ✌️😎
I wish you as much luck and some for you to get what you want! Happy riding!
Actually, Indian was the first American motorcycle company of I'm not mistaken.
Yep! 1901! Did I say otherwise? If so, my mistake.
Brandon Bicasso 😁😁😁No you didn't brother, but other people talk trash about Indian as if they're following Harley Davidson when it's really the other way around..
Great videos man! I'm thinking about getting that Indian...but thinking I might be too tall, I'm 6'6"
so might have to find one and test it, see how it feels.
There are extended reach kits and seats for it so I'd say go sit on one and check it out!
great video. I subscribed. I feel the same about prices. I have a 2012 Victory Hammer 8 Ball I got for $6k with new tires in excellent condition and as much as I did like the Fatbob I went with my used Victory. I got a cruiser to suit my needs and didn't have to break the bank. was nice to just write a check and pay the bike off outright than finance such a large amount.
Gill Grylls Exactly! You found something that suited your wants/needs! I love it! We aren't against the Fat Bob, but we won't ignore that mark up either.
im digging your bike. wouldn't mind getting one of those.
Great bike :D
The new sport glide is the best looking one of 2018 Harleys
Yes, the sport glide looks great. I've seen some hate on it, though since Harley is shaking up things in the design department.
Harley dug itself into a hole. They catered so much to a specific group, and now that the group is diminishing, they don't know whether to move forward or stay where they are.
ever borjas So many people were salty when they integrated Dyna DNA into the Fat Bob. Absolutely hilarious.
Cool video. I agree 100% on your reasons for getting the Scout. Although I do prefer the Fat Boy instead of the Fat Bob if a choice had to be made. Harley prices are a bit on the high side. All in all, I'll keep my Springfield for its comfort although it is a bit hefty in weight. LOL... Ride safe bro and enjoy...
Lol, very nice! I sat on the Fat Boy and didn't like it as much. The sit felt weird and not for me. Loved the headlight on it, though.
People don't realize the amount of markup and wiggle room in Harley-Davidson motorcycle prices...
Used is the best way to go often it seems
I'm cheap and don't fancy depreciation much.
I have a Suzuki Boulevard M109R, it is a 2015, and it outguns any Harley I agree the Harleys have great styling, they are very cool and sick bikes, but they're just way over priced I would get one in a heartbeat if they were reasonably priced My 2nd bike is a scooter, as I mentioned to you previously, I'm looking for a 3rd bike, a nimble sporty bike with belt drive Enjoy your Indian Scout Have a good one
Yeah, absolutely. The Fat Bob/Breakout etc is super nice!!!!! Just.. that price.
David S Lowrider s calls bullshit lol
Nice choice with the Scout Bobber! The Fat Bob is pretty cool as well, but for the price they want for it, there are plenty other bikes that will do much more for way less money. I will tell you that the Victory Octane was pretty darn quick when I took one for a test ride. Great video!
I haven't ridden the Octane, but it has a few more points in the torque area. Great bike. I considered it, but went with the new and fresh look of the Scout Bob.
Brandon Bicasso oh yeah, the Scout Bob looks mean!
Small bike with biggest engine would be good way for Harley. That could lower the price. 👌
Sound reasoning. When you start looking at an HD price to power it's never going to stand up to cheaper bikes...that already have decent power to boot. You have to really want an HD and be in love with the style. That said, I think I'd bite on the new Fat boy 114, that's a sexy looking machine. I didn't realize you could get a 117 kit and make that much more power? Wow! Here in Canada that set up would likely push me over 30k though since base price is around 25k!
Yes, the 117 kit is impressive, but with a cost. And while I was looking at it from my pov, I can't knock how well put together the Fat Bob is. Really really nice machine.
You can get that performance for about $14,500 with ABS with just a few bolt-ons and a tune. Still won't have the torque the HD does due to the engine being almost half the size but you'll never want for power on a 120hp Scout.
I love the look of the 2018 Fat Bob but it's too expensive for me
Pssh, the difference in weight would make up for it. Both bikes look fantastic. Just depends on which one you wanna go for.
cant hear with music playing in background
Hmm, I've tweaked it a bit in my latest videos. Sorry about that.
I like your videos BUT ... stating that the Bobber is better because you didn’t want to spend more is missleading! Also, your assessment is faulty since The 2018 fatbob has been named cruiser of the year in US, Australia and Europe... lastly HP doesn’t equal power! Torque does! Especially on this type of bike! HP with no torque behind it is not ideal for these types of bikes! Now the bobber is a great bike but it’s meant to compete with sportster 48 and iron not with fatbob
Cool. That's your opinion. But also know that you could spec out a Scout Bobber with similar parts and still come out cheaper than the Fat Bob. AND, the power to weight ratio on the Scout Bobber is better than the Fat Bob 107 and 114. People can sugar coat it all they want.. If the Fat Bob 114 can't even compete with my 2007 M109 on the spec sheet while my Bobber can on the street then it still makes the Fat Bob look worse. The Scout Bobber is comparable to the Fat Bob, end of story. It blows the iron and Sportster out the water.
Brandon Bicasso i agree about building up but you were talking about stock to stock! If thats the case then i can build my fatbob up as well! I respect your opinion But i dont have to agree! Especially when the world has name the Bob BEST in 2018! So you may like more yours and in your eyes is better but that doesn’t make it so! Btw i paid 16 for mine! Double disk brakes, abs, keyless, LED, alarm system and more! Lastly! Handling! The bobber has a 29 lean angle to the left and i asume about 27 to the right since the pipes are so low! Fatbob has a 32.2 both ways! Im glad you are happy with the bobber! Good on you! Your reasons didn’t convince me! ;)
I can see how the bobber could be called better than sportster 48! That could be an argument I could agree with you!
Also , I see nothing about the Fat Bob being named the best bike of 2018. Care to link the article?
Also, valid points. To each their own, right? 👌😎
Brandon Bicasso ua-cam.com/video/wgwIPlRnGM4/v-deo.html
And thats one of them! In Australia and UK as well...
We can run my 107 fatbob against your scout anytime. Great videos. Great looking bike too.
I'd love to :)
Lol couldn't afford the Harley-Davidson...
Zach Oooo, I like your style ; )
Brandon Bicasso lol well comparing a sportster class bike to the top of the line mid weight Harley-Davidson offers then bashing the price is like saying you drove a challenger and a corolla and bought the corolla because of the price.
Brandon Bicasso i do like the scout bobber, Indian is reclaiming the flat track since hd dropped the xr750 for xg750.
Zach I think you missed the entire point of the video.
Zach Either way, buy what you like! I'm not against HD. Love HD. Just overpriced and I'm not willing to pay the price for it.. Simple. Doesn't mean one can't afford it.
Nice bike good video, and you get what you pay for .
+David Adiv Yep. Fantastic machine. I'm pleased.
I would like to see you leaning that bike to 40 degrees ..... good luck
Which one?
And we would like to see you endo, please post video.
I agree..awesome decision!!
After 1500 miles I still think it was the best decision
Test rides the fat bob 114, never goes over 50 mph and rides like a grandma; got an idea of everything the engine has to offer! Lmao, ok..
You bought the Indian because of the price, let’s be honest here. If they were the same price, you’d be riding the fat bob..
Nah, I'd buy a M109R, lol. Try again.
Last time I checked the M109R has been putting 117 power down since 2006. 😂😂😂
And I went well over 50 on the 114 Breakout. Impressive bike, but not enough for me to justify the price still.
Ridden harleys all my life and know the engine problems well. My fairly new twincam is almost equal to my 1980 shovelhead, minus electronics. Harley should have kept the
vrod engine. Big mistake. My next bike is an Indian.
Hopefully, they get it figured out later on as the M8s mature.
Your bobber will crush the entire nee,softail line up because it is 100 lighter
No doubt in my mind, Jacks.
I have ridden both, The scout is a far better purchase than the HD Sportster you can't ague that but the Fat Bob is in a different league to the Scout, The Scout pulls to the right the weight balance in the frame is wrong its a serious issue that most people posting on here are totally unaware of because they haven't ridden the bike, The suspension on the Scout is crude and harsh compared to the Fat Bob, I have just taken delivery of a Fat Bob 114 and fitted a full race exhaust system the torque is massive and straight line acceleration will leave the Scout for dead, Not saying the Scout is a bad bike its very good for the price but to say its better than the Fat Bob is crass and idiotic
+matt kane Sounds like the Scout you rode had low tire pressure. I don't experience any pulling on mine unless I'm coasting to a stop. Suspension, sure.. I'm used to it coming from a M109R. As far as performance, my M109R has stock 114 numbers (well, more actually) and my Scout hangs on both the low and top end. So, I think it comes down to seeing both the Fat Bob and Scout together.
matt kane I have posted a scout review and ridden pritty much every he available. Even bikes that don't exist any more. While I did no love the scout. video had already been posted by reputable sources on 0-60 type speed. The scout is way lighter and as a result is faster. The hd may be a better bike. But it is not faster in a straight line.
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I test Road both of those new bikes the Indian Scout seems a little small for me I'm only 5 7 but maybe I'm just used to riding bigger bikes it seems like fun but if you going to do any long distance definitely not the bike for that. But then again neither is the Fat Bob.
If it's small for you, then it is tiny for me. I'm 5'10", lol. And yeah, it's not meant for long distance persay, but it is capable with the offered accessories.
I need one.
Treat yo self
You DO need one. Go get yourself one!
Fatbob is a performance based bike not a cruiser, hints the 32 degree lean angle on the FatBob, I do agree the price on the fatbob is a bit too high, would like to see the 114 around the 15-16k mark instead of closer to 20k. But your title is full of shit, the only way the scout bobber is "better" is being cheaper than the FatBob. But regardless, gratz on the new bike.
Lol, a lot more people disagree with you, but justify it anyway you want Bud.
Some of the other Harley diehards claimed that horsepower numbers didn't matter.. yet Harley has a 114/117 etc. kit. Rubbish. Ride both. I'm not bashing the quality and performance of the Fat Bob, just saying the Scout is faster and is a better deal. Looking forward to the new Harley line up as well.
Kind of a head scratcher of a comparison.. Harley has a bike that is about the same size, about the same cost, it's called the 48. There's your comparison.
Nope. Just because there's a similar cost doesn't mean it's comparable. To me, anyway. And the 48 is overpriced compared to the Scout, imo. Smaller tank, less power, not as reliable (hearsay of course), more maintenance, etc. So, yeah you can compare them but I still think the Scout is comparable to the Fat Bob.
Naked bikes have thousands in price difference yet we compare them so why not the Scout Bobber to the Fat Bob which is also a Bobber?
Yeah, just pitching in. Put these two side by side would be very unfair for the 48, despite the same budget. Fat Bob is the competitor.
Thx .. 🤙🏻
I can't hear you with the volume turned all
Odd
All good points.
This Statement that the Indian scout Bobber is better than the 2018 HD Fat Bob is total garbage i have ridden both the bikes they are incomparable ,It might be better for your pocket,This sounds like its coming from someone bitter they can't afford the bike they really want,It might be better value than a HD Sportster as they are similar price thats a better comparison
He just mentioned the difference was not worth it to him not that he could not afford it. It was clear. He even said the Fat bob was a better bike.
I suggest you read the title of his Video " The 2018 Indian Scout Bobber is better than the 2018 Harley FatBob!"
Nothing to do with not being able to afford it, lol. Geez, man.
And for the price and overall offering, yes.. the Scout Bobber in my opinion is the better bike.
They scout is faster then the fat bob 114
Too quiet, needs slip ons
Taken care of :D
I've never really been a Harley fan, i have a 2008 HD Rocker that i got new but it has like 1200 miles on it, i think it looks better than it rides.
I've always been more into the Indian and the Yamaha cruisers
I have a 2003 Indian Chief
2010 Indian Chief Bomber
2014 Indian Chief vintage
& a pair of 2002 Yamaha v star's 650 and 1100, the 650 if my wife but i still enjoy the 1100 also. I also have a 2005 Honda CBR 600 F4i which is fun to ride now and then. I have always found Harley to be unattractive in appearance, there is no sex in a Harley anymore, my 2008 HD Rocker C, that was a sexy bike but as you can see by the 1200 miles i don't drive it.
Indian on the other hand, be it Gilroy, Kings Mountain or Polaris, they all are sexy as hell and ride amazing.
HD's new 2018 lineup actually did nothing to bring me closer to HD models, but to each their own, if you like HD, good for you, you obviously don't care about aesthetics or build quality, but to each their own.
Good input! Saying Harley has lost that spark is interesting, though. Haven't heard it described that way before. You plan on selling the HD Rocker at some point since you don't ride it as much?
Brandon Bicasso - If it was up to my wife she would have me sell it now, i don't really drive it at all. Goes like a bat out of hell with full stage 1 V&H pipes and heavy breather along with stage 2 cams.
I don't really plan on selling it just yet, I use it as a show bike, it's really the only HD that i like. It really is a gorgeous bike.
In that case, keep it for nostalgia.
Yeah, my 25 year old is into bikes, still young and dumb and still likes the sport bikes, but who knows, maybe 1 day when i am gone he will be into my cruisers
Ummm you need ABS. If you have ever locked your wheels you would know that. Cruise control is a custom option with the FatBob 2018. In fact there are so many custom options with any Harley. In the end, Harley offer a lot, things like style, customisation, character, not to mention kudos and HOG culture, old tech charm, the list goes on really. Yes you pay more, but you also get more in many different ways.
I sure have and no... you don't "need" abs. If it was a need it would be standard on every bike and probably law. And yeah, cruise control is nice. The Triumph Bobber has a good amount of added customizations too.
Doesn't have a HOG premium on it either.
Too small. It's more like a Sportster.
Sure. 👌😎
@@BrandonBicasso Much nicer for sure, I meant in size. Hope they do make something bigger in the future.
Possibly. Both Harley and Indian have been getting incredibly creative lately.
Umm NO. Just effing NO! Geeeeez.
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Dude. Love your vids. Really I DO. BUT I love the new 2018 Softails. They rock. Even tho the $$$ money is a little cray I still love the Harleys. Peace.
Oh, I like them too! The Scout Bobber resembles the softail line. I'm just out to ruffle some feathers. ; )
I do want to come back to you and say that for the $$$ You made the right choice. HD is great but nobody wants to put car money into a bike unless they are rich. Which of course most of us are not, explains why HD stock continues to drop. HD just doesn't seem to understand the demographic. They DO build great bikes they are just way Overpriced to the gills. I like your Bobber man, you saved a ton of $$$ and you get the same great ride as you would on the 2018 HD Fatbob. Good work on your vids, keep them coming you do good work bro. Peace!
Very good points.
Yes, I agree, lol.
i still would not buy an indian over a harley
At least we have options!
I would. In fact, I did!
No one asked u to
So you are in love with a badge and care nothing about quality HP and Price.Please unbrainwash yourself
To each their own, no point in passing around the hateraide. I wish my scout's fit and finish were done by harley, Indian skipped a few corners frankly. But for the price Harley has nothing that will touch it on the handling and performance side of things.
Are you serious? Harley is way worthier, better looking, cooler and authentic
Roadster FB Very serious. Yeah, Fat Bob looks great.