Is This Europe's UGLIEST Plane? Condor A330neo Business Class
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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I took a flight onboard what could just be Europe's ugliest plane - Condor's striking Airbus A330neo to see if it's as bad inside as it looks outside...
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It is a solid product. I like the livery. Condor is a German holiday airline as you correctly mentioned. The livery is meant to mimic the distinct design of German beach chairs usually found on the Baltic and North Sea coasts.
Keeping with the theme, the flight attendants get up extra early to put beach towels on the plane seats.
Shout have had matching pj's to go with this one 😂
Flying humbug comes to mind... However it's an incredibly distinctive livery. :)
And or a rolled up beach towel.. which is a perfect look for most of their destinations
That's an interesting bit of info. I am German and I've sat in those beach chairs (guess you are talking about Strandkörbe) a lot, but I would have never made that connection on my own.
LOVE the livery and interior! It instantly screams holiday and fun. Kudos to Condor for making a bold design choice. So many other airlines give you depressing proletariat gray, maybe beige. It gives high visibility on the tarmac and gets airport goers talking/wondering. Brilliant marketing move.
I’m afraid but Condors livery is absolutely stunning. I’ll have to admit, the first time I saw it I didn’t particularly like it but as time progressed, I really started to like it. In the end, they got the whole aviation industry talking about their midsized airline that is usually just relevant for German tourists; therefore this marketing move is absolutely genius. The inside of the new A330s looks incredible as well, I really can’t share your criticisms about their stripy theme
Every seat includes a towel...
The livery looks like those long socks... It almost smells of feet just looking at it, I think it is the worst livery ever made, it is so bad that my friends and me booked a slightly more expensive flight just to avoid being in that livery... It is that bad 🤣
I would have chosen diagonal lines with the same concept, but this is def. a conversation starter. It is very purposefully done like this indeed.
@@edmundblack8754 Say goodbye to your wasted money. Also the livery should never be a reason to book another flight
@@vincugames of course you are Right, but when you have other options and they are similar in quality and price, livery then is a good variable to consider to make a decision 😉
Me, my wife and my two young children flew on condor over to mexico last year for a two week family holiday. We connected through frankfurt. My wife was incredibly worried, as our kids are both under 5 years old. However, from the moment we stepped on board, we were made to feel welcome. The cabin crew made a concerted effort to help keep the children entertained, with one even colouring with my eldest for a while in between services. The captain also passed through the cabin and chatted to everyone (something you don't see done very often these days). For a "holiday airline," they are incredible. I also adore there livery its different and stands out !
Ah, Condor's A330 neo. They're affectionately dubbed "Ringelsocken" (Striped Socks) here. And I really love the livery, especially since it's colourful.
nothing over our Ringelsöckchen fr 🤝
It reminds me a bit of the former Transavia "Sugar band" livery designed by Landor. Now only one proud 737-700 is still wearing it.
@@aviatorb77w Ringelsocken on top 🔵🟢🟡🔴
But the greens are the „Kotzeutel“ 🤣🤣🤣
Kotzbeutel, sorry
Condor was once Lufthansa‘s holiday airline. In 2009, Lufthansa sold its remaining shares in Condor to the travel group Thomas Cook. After its bankruptcy, the airline received state aid and was thus able to survive. Condor now flies in competition with Lufthansa on many routes. In responce, Lufthansa has founded Discover Airlines (formerly Eurowings discover) as its new holiday airline and direct competitor to Condor. The fact that Condor is a former subsidiary of Lufthansa is the reason what the airline flies Form Terminal 1 at Frankfurt airport, Business class passengers are allowed to use the Lufthansa lounges there and why Lufthansa has to operativ feeder flights to Condor‘s long-haul flights. Lufthansa wanted to end the latter two years ago, baut was forced by the Federal Cartel Office (Bundeskartellamt) to continue offering these flights.
It was not the best move of Lufthansa to abandon Condor, when they did. Instead, all of this mess with Eurowings or Discover Airlines or whatever they call themselves. Just short term measures to save on personnel and to break the Pilot's Union. Not really a smart move.
@@sightsandsoundsofaviation Meanwhile my country probably didn't have to go to that extent to rein in our flag airline's pilot union; our leader probably just had to deem going on strike to be an act of treason & threaten to replace striking staff (now, when the union has pay disputes with the airline & is negotiating with them about this matter, pilots continue to work)
I think the Condor livery is modern and fun, not ugly at all. They have various colorways too. I can think of a few planes that look a lot more boring!
That livery is great marketing. Look how much coverage it's got them. Brilliant video as always.
While i'm personally not the biggest fan of the livery, i will have to admit that it is great marketing since t does get the ppl talking about their brand.
A lot of people don’t know this but different airline employees have different metrics that they have to meet from a performance standpoint. Situations where the agent starts boarding the aircraft before the fly crew is ready most likely means that agent didn’t want to take the hit for the delay but instead put it on the flight crew to take the hit.
You must be kidding..? 😂😂 This is the best livery i've ever seen. Their default livery was not very good and i didn't like it at all. This livery is way too smooth. Different colours tho
It is THE WORST livery to be introduced within the past 10 years.
@@justplanecrazy5575as an aviator I disagreeee
I think the livery is a bit like marmite, you either love it or hate it. I personally can't stand it and it almost hurts my eyes looking at it but each to their own.
@@SpottinPlanesForLife it was literally voted worst livery of 2022… and 2023…
@@justplanecrazy5575 nooooo
That plane certainly gets your attention which is a PR dream. The stripes do become a little much but you made up for it by getting good service and great food. Safe travels, stay warm and see you next time.
This livery grew on me, I like it.
I took the family down to Jamaica for a week (10 of us), the place I rented looked right on to the approach at Montego Bay, the first day my nieces saw the Condor plane come in and were amazed at the paint scheme. It really is a stroke of genius on Condors part, next year we are heading to Europe and the family asked if we are flying Condor.
Well actually we are, the wife, my in laws and I will be upfront, the rest are in coach. From other reviews Condor looks to have a solid product, certainly better than LH or BA.
Condor is achieving the exact thing with their livery what they hoped for. Because whenever you see stripes now you think of them. Very well clever thought out. Great review!
Pacer mints. Pacer trains. I now think shoddily cobbled together and an uncomfortable ride. Luckily I'm not in their target audience.
I love the livery! It's much better than the standard white with a splash of colour here or there. More like this please!
Noel is awesome. Noel puts pressure on the airlines to provide the best possible service, which leads to a better aviation industry and satisfied travellers. Wishing safe and happy travels.
Condor is coming to San Antonio in may! Excited for the first route outside of Mexico for our international airport.
There's a book I had to think of called "The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas" by the Irish author John Boyne when you mentioned that it was bad that there were no striped PJs.
That flying zebra is cute! 🤣
Condor has 5 different colour schemes; red, representing Passion, and yellow, representing Sunshine, are not on the long haul routes. Those routes will be in Island (green), Beach (beige) and Sea (blue). Whilst I’m not a fan of the livery, on an apron with 200 planes on it you will never, ever, miss or mistake the Condor plane for anything else. The fact that their C-CL blows LHs out of the wat… um, sky, is just icing on the cake.
I laughed when I first saw that livery, but it has grown on me. Yes, the stripes are counter to the concept of forward movement. But it’s quite a unique branding and painting a/c in different colors (with the same pattern) is an original way to distinguish the airline from others. The rest of the product looks pretty solid, so the stripes wouldn’t bother me in the least. Great video as always…travel safe!
It looks like Dr Seuss's vision of a zebra. I think all holiday airlines should look unique like this
Greebra, maybe?
I see you called the bed "thin" but that makes me think of the padding on the bottom (which I am sometimes aggravated by on airplanes). I would call the lack of shoulder room "narrow" instead.
I bet you were (in the words of Jeremy Clarkson) 'nursing a semi' when you found the landing videos! Great idea, I would watch that all flight long.
😂😂😂
Jeremy Clarkson has some of the greatest quotes of all time.
“Con Air” 🤣 certainly looked like it when you were away to bed 🤣
I love Condor plane livery. They are so different. Noel , you are becoming real American speaking all the time about U S style prisoners strip uniform. To my knowledge , UK never use striped prisoners uniforms.
Being from Glasgow, this plane hurts my eyes - ugly as fook
They wear orange uniforms in US prisons
12:38 “it’s everywhere; you can’t escape” haha awesome. 😂😂😂😂
Condor is a good airline, it’s the new livery (the livery you flew with) that looks like a prison uniform, it’s not the plane but the livery
The livery is meant to mimic the distinct design of German beach chairs and has absolutly nothing to do with prison uniforms.
The livery represents a beach towel. They fly to holiday destinations so...
The Condor livery reminds me of Braniff Airlines and their “flying colors”.
those old Braniff planes were awesome.....I like this one too, different
@PolPotsPieHole as a child I enjoyed flying on Braniff. I liked the orange 727's. Actually I liked all of the colors that their planes were painted.
I have been a fan of Condor for years and they've always had some quirky liveries (Janosch :) ). I flew regularly for 10 years from LAS to FRA at least twice a year and never had a bad experience. Best flights on the A330neo in their business class, not the green stripes, but the yellow ones lol. Can only recommend.
Can you remember Pacer sweets … ?
They were an offshoot from Opal Fruits
First thing I thought of when I saw the livery 👍
Lol same here
Snap, pacers were amazing
Yep, puts me in mind of a Pacer, too. They were originally called Opal Mints and were plain white. But then they added the green stripes and renamed them Pacers. My nephews used to just call them Stripes!
I remember the Opal Mints! My Mum had those and the Opal Fruits in her purse on every single family trip, especially road trips. Good memories. Thanks for that @@andybaker2456
The data geek in me wishes you’d start a table that explains what seats etc in each class and airline are like. Eg wide but not comfy to sit on or long and thin bed. Would be great when booking to help decide between airlines/ planes etc
the landing video on the infotainment system is a really nice touch I wish more airlines do that
This livery grows on you very fast especially seeing the cabin and all the branding. It just works
You have no idea how much I look forward to hearing Noel say "This Week" every sunday :)
Like several others on here, when I first saw that livery I thought it was hideous, but now I love it. I tip my hat to them for getting creative.
I really like Condors livery. Its fun.
I love the Livery, very different & they have fifferent coulourways on the theme. A fresh approach for a new era !!!
I think that Condor’s livery is truly unique and eye catching. Clever marketing by Condor. The airplanes are hard to miss and people will remember the striped airliner.
I saw that Green flying Candy Cane when I was Landing in Frankfurt on the 747 from O’hare. I love the look of it. So when I mentioned I flew over to Deutsche Bank I also went to the game that week there Dolphins vs Chiefs. And the plane spotted when nothing exciting was happening. Mainly the Halftime show and commercial breaks. It'll be a trip I'll never forget.
I love the paint job.
Flipping different.
Hi there, I'm a ramp agent at Hamburg Airport (HAM). Condors crew is always a bit slow preparing the cabin for passengers. Usually the ramp agent starts the pre boarding into the jet bridge even if they crew says they're not ready because if he would only start when they're 100% ready the flight would be massively delayed. Maybe that's the case here again. Of course for the passengers it's not comfortable but its necessary for the schedule.
Great vlog as always my friend! The logo is a beach towel in different colors. Now you know! How cool that DE has a better C-class than LH. Nice to know. Keep up the good work. Be safe!
Those landing videos were an awesome idea, kudos to whoever thought of that 👏
Noel, The reason for why the sun rises earlier in Texas is because of its lower latitude compared to England. In the winter the further up north you head the later the sun will rise and vice versa in the summer. In the summer most of Texas only gets around 14 hours of daylight in the summer while in England that could be well over 16+ hours. Hopes this helps anyone
Very well said! I lived in Seattle and in the summer time it would not get dark until 10:30pm-11:00pm. I loved it. However, in the winter the nights are long and sometimes depressing because they don’t get the sun often.
I'm surprised he doesn't know this.
@@pennywood5653 So was I honestly.
Meanwhile in tropical Singapore I read of a tourist who was surprised that the sun still hadn't rise @ 0630h. That's because the country follows the same time zone as neighbouring peninsular Malaysia, which in-turn wants to follow east Malaysia's timezone (probably to bring the country closer to other east Asia-Pacific countries' timezones to facilitate financial trading). So sunrise is usually around 0645h (but can be as late as 0715 or 0730h if its raining, especially during the Nov-Jan monsoon season), & then the sun usually stays up for ~12h
@@lzh4950 Yeah, that’s mainly because Singapore sits near the equator making for 12 hours of sunlight year round.
If you want the Condor pajama you need to book the first row of Business Class in the A330 Neo which they brand as Prime Seats. You get extra legroom, additional amenities and a NON-STRIPED ;) pajama. I have flown them twice between FRA and NYC and it's a solid product, definitely better than Lufthansa.
What do you know about style Noel...
At first when it was announced, I really didn’t like the new striped livery. But as time had gone on I’ve actually started to really like the livery. Great video again Noel!
I love it. A bit like Pacers sweets in the UK in the 70s & 80s!
I'm not really a fan of the new livery either but it's got one major advantage: you can always imediately recognize Condor planes. It's denfinitely not as boring as all these "euro-white" liveries more and more airlines adapt^^
I love that livery because it’s so unique…it’s effective too because so many people talk about it…everyone knows it’s Condor.
I think the Condor scheme comes from the WW1 "Flying Circus" colours used by the German Air Force on the likes of Fokker Triplanes and Albatros aircraft amoungst others. Like the travel vids. All the best. 😀
I'm reserving judgement on Condor's livery, since the loudest livery in the U.S. has to be Spirit's old yellow planes. They have a fan club among us plane watchers are are called "banana planes." One plane-watching channel even has a special subgroup of subscribers who donate to the channel every time they see a "banana." Could be that eventually there will be a fan club for the stripey planes.
Only one thing to remember when flying Conair, put the bunny back in the box.
The stripy livery on the Condor sounds absolutely hilarious Noel. Sound like a decent airline And another fabulous vid
First 30 seconds noel comes out swinging with the cancun joke. Love it.
I think this livery is cool and fun, it stands out and was a brave move by condor -- before, they looked as generic as any other airline. Gonna fly to the canary islands on one of their A321s soon, hopefully it'll be striped 😅
I love this livery!!! It’s so cool to me and absolutely unique
Awesome livery Noel! Different yes, awesome absolutely! Props to them for having the balls to paint the plane like this!
Excited to watch this video. Just popped up on feed! 🐊🐍 Stripes inside do look like prison pajamas...or Beetlejuice, the main character in that movie ...name the same. Say Beetlejuice three times, etc.
Tbh the plane does look beautiful. The interior looks even better than most. I give it a 9/10 from this video. Looking forward to travelling in one.
I actually think the livery is awesome. Spot on on the Lufthansa comparison and the service on board though...!!
From the outside it reminds me of that fruit stripe gum I had as a kid for some reason. At least it's hard to miss a plane that looks like that. That food looked really good!
Well, Noel, all I can say is at least it doesn't look like a big Tylenol! 😆😜
I love that Condor livery!
I flew on a Condor A330neo from YYZ to FRA in May last year in their premium economy section and loved the experience. Additionally, you can't beat their pricing for the upgrade to either premium economy or business class on transatlantic flights. 10/10 would fly Condor again.
I love the stripy leverage. Reminds me of a creature about to turn into a butterfly!
As a German, i am quite proud of Condor`s remake - It is an eye catcher and distinguishes from all the other boring white fuselage lveries with just a branding plastered on it.
Their previous long haul equipment of 767-300 ER`s were partly in dreadful state at the end and i flew with one of their last flights to the Caribbean again as i did on a regular basis within the last 25 years with them - Lavatory interior was falling apart and the seats looked terrible - The airline took way too much time in updating their long haul fleet - This was by far the best option to go for as only German carrier to fly the 330-900 with this unique image.
Its a phantastic livery! I like it a lot!
Definitely a catchy livery that will get you looking up who it is. That's a hella good price for that flight too. I may have to use them in the future.
Good to see an airline being a bit different and the standard looks good especially for a holiday airline.
I've transited FRA multiple times, from the early '90s to as recently as last year. Never have had any trouble there nor found it to be a "nightmare". It doesn't have a gleaming palace of a terminal you find at Asian airports but it gets the job done. The only minus points I will dock it are for the bathrooms - they do leave a lot to be desired.
For some reason, the new Condor livery reminded of a candy wrapper, but reading the comments below about beach chairs and towels, I get it now.
Hello Noel! Yes the plain was thinking to create impact! Have nice days!
Condor was the charter and holiday department of Lufthansa since 1959. The icon it got then is an "abstract" version of the Lufthansa crane (bird) symbol. It then went through many hands, now it's Thomas Cook.
As it does nearly only holiday flights for "all inclusive" travelers, they sell unused seats for a very bargain. I used them quite often to NYC for half the price in C than on regular airlines.
Things have changed quite a bit since then ...
Condor is a completely independend airline now since the former "owner" Thomas Cook went bancrupt.
... and they actually operate head on with Lufthansa on a few routes - much to the frustration of LH (!).
Because of that LH even tried to stop operating as a feeder for DE´s Frankfurt hub but was ordered to continue by the "Bundeskartellamt" (federal anti cartel office)
Condor's new livery is absolutely stunning because it is so unique
Flying into Buffalo, NY several times during the winter can be very exciting. Visibility is trash and then.... You'll barely see the perimeter fence then touch down. Same thing a time or two at BWI in Baltimore.
The paintwork is a matter of taste. Condor wants to stand out and has managed to do so. People remember it, even those who don't have much to do with flying and rarely travel in this way. I think they are almost unbeatable in Europe with long-haul flights, especially in the holiday airline segment - at the moment.
Cancun airport looks much more organized than I remember from 40 years ago. I’m impressed!
I’m not. I flew in and out three times in the last year. Baggage claim is a Sh!t Show. Three Terminals quite separate and absolutely no place to sit, until you are behind security.
Restaurants are overcrowded and it is an obvious last chance to fleece outgoing tourists.
My only praise there, is arriving. Mexican Immigration is absolutely the best! Never a hassle and on three visits the worse thing they did, is confiscate a Ham Sandwich!😊
I actually quite like the look of that plane… probably says more about my taste though than it does about the plane 😂
Love the livery you can tell its condor a miles away. So much better than the dull euro white that most airlines go for . There's also different coloured stripes on other aeroplanes . Iv seen blue and also yellow I think
LOL! The flying Pacer :-) (1980’s UK peppermint chewy sweet for our US cousins)
I saw one of those on approach SFO recently, really grabs your attention.
Have to agree with you Noel the new Condor livery makes the aircraft look like a giant stick of Blackpool Rock. Nice to see FRA still has those old style arrival/departure boards that shuffle loudly as they change.
Glasgow Celtic team plane 🤣
You Must Star in The First Row. This is the BC Premium Seat. Love it
I’ve flown on one of the planes and was comfortable, quiet, and friendly flight attendants
Interesting that you eventually tried Condor, four years on from when you were meant to fly it to Seattle. Personally, I've seen the Condor planes at Frankfurt and quite like the livery.
German here! We don’t have prison uniforms here as prisoners just wear their own clothes. Instead, we link those bold stripes with deckchairs in our coastline. In general, stripes are a popular choice of pattern here and I’m quite surprised they are interpreted so differently in other areas!
Germany does not have a great past with striped pajamas
The livery is uniquely good and cheeky. Perfekt!
Condor, you need an intervention. We love you and we want you to change your livery.....
I love the livery, it is different and unique!
I thought Spirit airline's flying taxi livery was bad then Condor comes out with their stripes lol, this is awesome!
i love that livery. Its perfect marketing. Everywhrer around the world - Condor is recognized immediately
Loo review immediately after the chocolate mousse was a nice touch.
Noel i have often seen the condor airlines planes with thier stripes on various airport vids but had never heard of them and looking at the stripes on the fleet (all difrent coulours) i just asumed that they were some sort of budget airine such as easyjet, Wow, ect I actualy didnt know they were a holiday airline like TUI BUT unlike TUI ect have a buisness class ! that looked Amazing and the dinner looked realy great too ! I suppose they do look garish and prison stripe like as you kept saying BUT the ONE THING I WILL SAY is it certainly makes them stand out ect!
I like the livery - certainly better than all the standard "Euro white with a bit of colour at the back" all other airlines including each Lufthansa group airline sport nowadays.
Ugly? I love Condor's new livery and branding!
It's simple, but at the same very bold and certainly unique. These aircraft stand out anywhere. Great idea by the design company who came up with it, it embodies everything that designers strive to achieve: simplicity, recognizability, differentiation from the competition and last but not least it's something that's so striking that people actually talk about it. Kudos to Condor as well for being brave enough to go along with it.
Thank uou for showing your flight. The color design is very interesting to say the least.😅😅
Thanks for watching!
@@noelphilips Hahaha ☺ You are welcome.