My AWFUL Saudia Flight: Flying to Saudi Arabia

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  • @importedmusic
    @importedmusic Рік тому +1003

    The steep pitch was probably due to the check-in lady phoning ahead to the pilots just to put the icing on your cake.

    • @abrarahmed816
      @abrarahmed816 Рік тому +27

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @AUmarcus
      @AUmarcus Рік тому +33

      I thought it might be to get out of Libya's missile range? It's Tunisia's neighbour after all. I remember flying from Sydney to Rome on Qantas a few decades ago, the normal flight plan would've taken us over Libya but we avoided it like the plague.

    • @369jtrain
      @369jtrain Рік тому +4

      Probably from random flying rounds aimed towards you

    • @potato1084
      @potato1084 Рік тому +11

      No. No it’s because of strict rules around airspace in the area.

    • @miaquinn5791
      @miaquinn5791 Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MancunianMrG
    @MancunianMrG Рік тому +1802

    That attitude of that check in woman was staggeringly bad, the utter contempt on her face as she looked at you.

    • @A1FAHx
      @A1FAHx Рік тому +93

      Perhaps it was the camera?

    • @LorenzoStoakes
      @LorenzoStoakes Рік тому +185

      she almost qualified for the UK railways but didn't quite reach the levels of contempt they have so had to make do with this job instead

    • @angel_lucifer3540
      @angel_lucifer3540 Рік тому +33

      i have to agreed
      YES
      she was indeed arrogant~
      maybe somebody holding business tickets asking a favor to have FREE Upgrade~
      and she was frustrated
      u know Arabs have "NO" word in their dictionary

    • @MancunianMrG
      @MancunianMrG Рік тому +52

      @@steevobarker581 Yes, because good customer service is about making lifelong friends isn't it?

    • @iankelly8666
      @iankelly8666 Рік тому +40

      They are so miserable 😂😂

  • @barbaratg5230
    @barbaratg5230 6 місяців тому +94

    I remember departing Tunis back to London. The guy at checkout took my passport and boarding pass then whispered he would give me back my passport if I gave him some money. I told him I had left all my loose change in my hotel room. He tossed my passport back to me in disgust. This was many years ago.

    • @madlad4206
      @madlad4206 28 днів тому +5

      Tunisians seem like a lovely bunch lmao

  • @srikothur2845
    @srikothur2845 Рік тому +215

    The woman at 2:00 seemed so upset that you actually had business class.

    • @marcospark2803
      @marcospark2803 2 місяці тому +20

      She was waiting for "not, Economic class" and then "This is only Business Class, get the #$%# out of here".

    • @Robert-ml4oj
      @Robert-ml4oj 2 місяці тому +1

      It’s the hoody

    • @daniyalbbd5281
      @daniyalbbd5281 2 місяці тому

      Typical Tunisian woman , they do the same to everyone who isn't a Muslim unfortunately

    • @solarevalo3588
      @solarevalo3588 Місяць тому +5

      SOOO RUDE! Hey, its not my fault that you HATE your job.....

    • @braindeadbogan9272
      @braindeadbogan9272 24 дні тому

      @@solarevalo3588 Exactly. I felt her attitude through the screen.

  • @LeandroAragon
    @LeandroAragon Рік тому +2154

    All the departures at Tunis required a 6% gradient of climb, this is why is so steep until at least 3000fts, at 250 knots its at least 1500ft/min climb. Lot´s of restricted airspace around the airport. Love your videos !! Cheers from Brasil !!!

    • @conorrclark8274
      @conorrclark8274 Рік тому +127

      Great knowledge, thanks

    • @LeandroAragon
      @LeandroAragon Рік тому +39

      @@conorrclark8274 my pleasure !!!

    • @christianwilliams9010
      @christianwilliams9010 Рік тому +17

      Thank you for the info.

    • @LeandroAragon
      @LeandroAragon Рік тому +14

      @@christianwilliams9010 my pleasure Chris !

    • @dalemullins4562
      @dalemullins4562 Рік тому +64

      there you go! I'm guessing there's probably some surface-to-air defense systems around that area LOL definitely don't want to go to slow at certain altitudes around there

  • @pyramidhead2874
    @pyramidhead2874 10 місяців тому +448

    Don't worry my friend, even I, a Tunisian native, am treated like shit.. I actually dread departing and arriving to carthage :')

    • @RizTraveller
      @RizTraveller 8 місяців тому +3

      He is not your friend...if he can, he will use you like a toilet paper and then flush you away.

    • @lindabarrett5631
      @lindabarrett5631 8 місяців тому +19

      Good to know it wasn't personal 😂

    • @adamjacksonmedia
      @adamjacksonmedia 7 місяців тому +85

      @@RizTravellerAre you a Tunisian customer service agent? Sounds like it.

    • @RizTraveller
      @RizTraveller 7 місяців тому +1

      @@adamjacksonmedia Glad to expose Adams and jackson's of this world and their views about Tunisia.

    • @adamjacksonmedia
      @adamjacksonmedia 7 місяців тому +21

      @RizTraveller Yes... Tunisians are just like anyone else.
      However, apparently their customer service sucks.
      Thank you for exposing my views.

  • @jacquelineb4375
    @jacquelineb4375 7 місяців тому +96

    If the staff cannnot be bothered to be pleasant let someone do the job.
    Manners cost nothing.
    Thank you for your review.

  • @RayStatham
    @RayStatham Рік тому +45

    I made the same mistake of flying with this airline, the whole process was anti passenger from checkin to off-boarding. Not enough staff, super long queues, what felt like secret police bag searches. Horrible.

    • @azeez8399
      @azeez8399 4 місяці тому

      Is this the same as Saudi Arabian airlines?

  • @andrewnorth4857
    @andrewnorth4857 Рік тому +229

    What a horrible experience a the airport, and quite a grim looking airport. I recoiled at the point where the lounge receptionist slapped your pass back down on the desk without even a cursory attempt at eye contact, let alone a smile. It was like one of those corporate videos where they show their staff how not to treat a customer. Still, at least you were able to enjoy some light dinning.

    • @lorrainebennett7528
      @lorrainebennett7528 8 місяців тому +20

      She was so rude!

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 5 місяців тому +6

      Absolutely ridiculous treatment. Should've engaged the customer by asking, "Is it hot out there?"

    • @jeffhatmaker817
      @jeffhatmaker817 5 місяців тому +5

      Kinda like how many public servants in the USA treats its citizens.

    • @sixpoint3
      @sixpoint3 3 місяці тому +1

      I thought I was the only one who noticed.

    • @Propain4eva
      @Propain4eva 2 місяці тому

      @@oldtwinsna8347 😭

  • @smikejasper4461
    @smikejasper4461 Рік тому +525

    Dear Noel, unfailingly polite in the face of blunt rudeness - I couldn't do it! Hope the rest of your flights are better. 😊

    • @YannickoYT
      @YannickoYT Рік тому +2

      Its the British way. If we’re super polite, we don’t like you

    • @smikejasper4461
      @smikejasper4461 Рік тому +44

      @@YannickoYT Nobody does passive-aggressive sarcasm like us Brits. 😂

    • @davidmoorea1961
      @davidmoorea1961 Рік тому +4

      Hey, they (“..the rest of your flights are better.”) can only GO UP - pun intended!😎🇺🇸

    • @sammyt3514
      @sammyt3514 8 місяців тому +2

      He probably wouldn't have been quite so 'unfailingly polite' if he wasn't recording the whole thing, though.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 5 місяців тому +1

      @@smikejasper4461
      Uh, but Noel wasn’t passive aggressive _AT ALL._ He was simply *passive.* He said “uh, okay,” and scurried off with his tail in between his legs. There’s zero spine in this guy lmfao.

  • @lesleytapp4402
    @lesleytapp4402 Рік тому +88

    Just flown in and out of Hurguarda Egypt as disabled traveller , I've done this with friends many times but this time our experience was dreadful beyond dreadful. There security is so tight which we're used to but so forceful and disrespectful to us when we arrived to none of our mobility equipment and left us at gate with no wheelchair or other assistance. We eventually found our own scooters and wheel chairs behind some unmarked door by baggage. But usually we praise how efficient they are and it was a startling contrast this time. Attitudes too

  • @wylecoyote233
    @wylecoyote233 2 місяці тому +17

    The takeoff angle sounds a lot like the Orange County California Airport noise abatement takeoff that starts off super steep like a rocket ship, then once out over the ocean it almost seems like they turn off the engines as you level off. They used to give a pre-flight warning about the takeoff, but the first time I flew out of the airport they did not make an announcement and I was very unsettled until a flight attendant explained it to me

    • @howdyitsdavid
      @howdyitsdavid 6 днів тому

      Yeah they dont annouce it at Orange County anymore. I fly out of there a fair bit and don't remember the last time i heard it. It might be just a crew decision and all mine have decided not to, it also might be that unless you're notified, in modern aircraft you barely notice it.

  • @sightsandsoundsofaviation
    @sightsandsoundsofaviation Рік тому +894

    The staff at Tunis Airport is a scandal. How dare you addressing and bothering them with your presence... ? Reminds me of the old Soviet Union "shut up and do as you are told" attitude. But Noel never loses his good humor, does he ? That makes this series so special.

    • @electroid8119
      @electroid8119 Рік тому +41

      It's the total disorganisation that really grates. Years of domestic airports in India have taught be tolerance beyond my years

    • @decentamerican7156
      @decentamerican7156 Рік тому

      But the old Soviet Union never hijacked our airliners and murdered thousands of innocent Americans - (They got away with it thanks to G W Bush)

    • @cliveramsbotty6077
      @cliveramsbotty6077 Рік тому +27

      i am a tall white western man. i thoroughly enjoy going to parts of the world where i actually get treated like shit, it makes a nice change to have the tables turned

    • @bumblerbumble9843
      @bumblerbumble9843 Рік тому +28

      I think if I lived in Tunisia, I'd be as miserable as sin too.

    • @Stripemedia
      @Stripemedia Рік тому +16

      Rudest airpot I have ever experienced was Atlanta international arrivals. The shout and coral you like you are on the prison exercise yard. SFO and Dulles also bad. US airports have been the worst for shouty officials!

  • @harrycallahan6623
    @harrycallahan6623 Рік тому +24

    Wow, these kind of rude people should never be dealing with customers.

  • @GarryPhillips
    @GarryPhillips Рік тому +53

    Having a made a few Saudia flights recently, totally agree on your comments. Great food and cabin crew, but the rest of the experience is poor, especially compared with Emirates. They managed to lose my bag, but quickly recovered it, but then failed to let me know. So close but so far.

  • @kbboy101
    @kbboy101 11 місяців тому +84

    The rule with many Middle Easter airlines (some more, others less) is that if you fly a route to a third-world country (South Asia, Africa) vs another route to East Asia, EU, or NA, it is like flying two different airlines or two different classes. Some airlines reduce the difference and others just expose it, but the gap is ALWAYS there. Part of it is down to the passengers too.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 9 місяців тому +32

      Yup, basically one side of the airline is trying to compete with Emirates the other is "Hajj express" for pilgrims from poor countries.

    • @lassikinnunen
      @lassikinnunen 8 місяців тому +5

      Why not just create 2 brands tho

    • @kbboy101
      @kbboy101 8 місяців тому +10

      @@lassikinnunen Many do. We have FlyDubai, Air Arabia, and Flynas.

    • @duncan-xg9sh
      @duncan-xg9sh 8 місяців тому +3

      This is absolutely my experience.

    • @musthaf9
      @musthaf9 8 місяців тому +1

      yep, I just flown Etihad from Jakarta to Rome, and the segment from Jakarta isn't even operated by Etihad

  • @Donabate2
    @Donabate2 Рік тому +63

    Noel, you're a very brave man to video the security personnel at the airport. We're they aware you filming them???

  • @atomsmash100
    @atomsmash100 Рік тому +66

    She was just itching to tell you to go check in somewhere else. Atrocious customer service.

    • @jimhache765
      @jimhache765 8 місяців тому +3

      how would you be with a camera shoved in your face when you're trying to do your job......

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 5 місяців тому +15

      @@jimhache765
      Yikes man. She works at an AIRPORT. You know, where tourists with cameras are EVERYWHERE?! That’s the job she took, and if she can’t treat tourists kindly, then she needs to find a different job. _SHE’S_ the one with the problem.

  • @hblee88
    @hblee88 8 місяців тому +90

    As a foreigner, one must always look at each trip as an "adventure" otherwise each "surprise" becomes a disappointment. 😮

    • @Komotau4691
      @Komotau4691 7 місяців тому

      I tell you my story...I was in train for hours with two cringy gays who kiss each other,making sounds to be point of attention and making weird faces to each other and me :D Thats not a adventure. These situations ruin your day.

    • @ErikMitch
      @ErikMitch 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Komotau4691 I'm sorry, would it be better if it was two women instead for you? lol

    • @Komotau4691
      @Komotau4691 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ErikMitch In this case its should be better to be alone lol

    • @d.n.8919
      @d.n.8919 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Komotau4691well, I’ve seen the same thing between a man and a woman 😂 I didn’t want to see that.

  • @cheekykitten25
    @cheekykitten25 8 місяців тому +23

    The number of times we got asked for our passport at Saudi was actually amusing. So much so, that even after 9 years my husband and I still joke about it 😂😂😂

  • @ac9110
    @ac9110 Рік тому +133

    'service with a scowl'...you weren't wrong there!😖 That was another excellent video. These are always gems Noel, cheers for doing them. That hotel at the end was fantastic!

    • @noelphilips
      @noelphilips  Рік тому +9

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 5 місяців тому +1

      @@noelphilips
      7:05 Regarding the typo you asked us about... you didn’t think it was “yoghurt,” did you? Because some spell it like that.
      There’s actually _TWO_ typos I found though: Both of the words “tagine” and “boukhari” aren’t supposed to be spelled that way. How do I know? I had to look up the words because I didn’t know what they were! Haha.
      I’ll leave you to look them up too, so you can learn their proper spelling if you’re interested and you didn’t realize that one or both words were misspelled. ;) My mom drilled into my head when I was young that looking things up myself makes the word/definition easier to remember, versus her simply giving me the answer. She was right!

    • @shashankr5180
      @shashankr5180 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@anti-ethniccleansing465The typo is actually in the sub-heading "Light Dinning" instead of "Light Dining".

    • @Belfaol
      @Belfaol Місяць тому +1

      @@shashankr5180 Also Arrabbiata was misspelled

  • @elliott7268
    @elliott7268 Рік тому +175

    Wow that's pretty awful customer service. Oh you're business class? 🙄 Wait! 😡

    • @glocku373
      @glocku373 Рік тому +15

      I know right! I was fuming while watching that

    • @martinwebb1681
      @martinwebb1681 Рік тому +9

      He should have said, yes, I am doing a revue on staff attitudes 😂

  • @juliovildosola1075
    @juliovildosola1075 11 місяців тому +12

    "Service with a scowl". Priceless humour!.

  • @Jeng4280
    @Jeng4280 Рік тому +41

    That hotel room was incredible for the cost! So nice! I'm sure it was comfy too! Thank you for sharing your experiences with the rest of us. :)

    • @joegreen2750
      @joegreen2750 5 місяців тому +1

      All fur coat, no knickers. 😅

    • @kukui79
      @kukui79 3 місяці тому +2

      Too bad half of us in the human race wouldn't be allowed to stay there by ourselves.

  • @Flo2806
    @Flo2806 Рік тому +113

    I remember flying out of Tunis back to europe like 10 years ago. The take off had a very high climb rate in combination with a pretty tight left turn. Meaning steep pitch up while sitting at a pretty high bank angle very close to the ground. I knew the plane could easily handle this maneuver, still felt uncomfortable af as a passenger.
    After reaching cruising altitude the pilot sort of apologised and said he had to perform this maneuver due to restricted airspace. The presidential residence isn't (or at least wasn't) allowed to be overflown and the runway we were taking off from was aiming at it.
    Edit: Your flight path at 15:30 looks like you were using the same runway. The presidential residence is near Carthage and it looks like you were flying over it. Maybe you are allowed to do so now at a certain altitude and thats why the climb was so steep?

    • @Covid-bv4hp
      @Covid-bv4hp 2 місяці тому

      Restricted airspace requires the steep climb.

  • @markfulwell4256
    @markfulwell4256 Рік тому +44

    Having spent the best part of my working life in that part of the world, I wasn't surprised by your experience. Saudia will get you there eventually, but everything else is just a bonus.

    • @knutmartinnord8297
      @knutmartinnord8297 Рік тому +5

      I fly Saudia regularly and insha'Allah, never had any major issues. A couple of delays, but all related to the ongoings in Yemen. Never even lost my bag, which I've been expecting.

  • @jss1004
    @jss1004 7 місяців тому +27

    I am traveling to Thailand in November. There was a Saudia Air flight that was lower in price. I reviewed the airline and realized it would take me into Saudia Arabia for a 6 hour layover. No thank you, I would't fly there for free.

  • @Parawingdelta2
    @Parawingdelta2 Рік тому +17

    The only Arab airline I've flown with is Emirates. Generally, I've found them OK although the last time, despite being encouraged to check in online to be allowed in a 'priority queue' for dropping off our main luggage we just had to line up with everyone else. When we were at Dubai airport, I reported an item of luggage which had been unattended for over half an hour to staff members. No action taken. After about an hour I reported it to the airport police. No action taken. It was still there at the gate when we left.

    • @bernadettejaneczek4609
      @bernadettejaneczek4609 8 місяців тому +1

      Qatar Airways is also very good. Worked in ME for a number of years and Emirates, Ethiad and Qatar are the best.

  • @kawangkwok5262
    @kawangkwok5262 Рік тому +190

    Holy crap, the immigration service, the seat, IFE, and the loo, cannot even imagine that is today's business class. I think the food set off a little that is not the worst experience afterall.

    • @MarkLukeFarrell
      @MarkLukeFarrell Рік тому +10

      Yeah business class is not what it once was in case you haven't heard. Way too affordable/accessible nowadays so a lot of airliners tend to cut corners.

    • @Dangerman-vj3qn
      @Dangerman-vj3qn Рік тому +6

      The business class differs from one plane to another. I ride the company's planes. The business class in the planes available inside the Kingdom is better than this one.

    • @potato1084
      @potato1084 Рік тому +7

      @@MarkLukeFarrell It’s really not though. It’s because the quality of business class is highly dependent on not only the airline but the locations both to and from the destination. Obviously they’re going to put more effort into a flight from London over a flight from Tunis.

    • @chrini1
      @chrini1 Рік тому +1

      Well this is only the segment from TUN. Which is the cheapest departure place for any SV route, even cheaper than CAI. Check out their business class going to BKK, MUC, MIL, etc.

    • @nhc__
      @nhc__ 11 місяців тому +2

      انا سعودي واريد ان اوصل لك معلومة ان طيران السعودية افضل من كذا ولاكن طيران السعودية لاترسل الطائرات الفارهه للدول الفقيره قم بتجربه اخرى من دولة جيدة وسوف ترا

  • @PigeonPair
    @PigeonPair Рік тому +13

    The woman slapping your boarding pass back down on the counter and not even acknowledging you as you entered the lounge... wow

  • @sdfft820
    @sdfft820 Рік тому +14

    Noel, I used to fly British Airways in the 1980s. On one international flight, as a child I did a personal loo review.
    I found a plastic tube in the loo with cotton stuffed in it. To a little boy like me, it was strange, so I pulled the cotton out and started blowing into the tube as if it were a flute.
    As I walked through the isles with my new flute, a stewardess noticed it and snatched it from me. I was shocked at her rudeness!
    Thank you.

    • @Courtneyburns90
      @Courtneyburns90 Рік тому +2

      Lol thank you this comment made my day 😂

    • @burnout10567
      @burnout10567 Рік тому

      Bruh what

    • @Courtneyburns90
      @Courtneyburns90 Рік тому +2

      @@burnout10567 tampon.

    • @Marklin15
      @Marklin15 Рік тому

      Hopefully it wasn’t used

    • @d.jensen5153
      @d.jensen5153 5 місяців тому +1

      I did the same thing at home. My mom quickly took away my new telescope.

  • @chrisbrown8748
    @chrisbrown8748 3 місяці тому +4

    2:30 You took the words right out of my mouth and if I can tell it was a nightmare by watching a edited video from the comfort of my office I can only imagine how you actually felt going through it.

  • @michaelhall6178
    @michaelhall6178 Рік тому +70

    Two people on passport desks to serve several widebody flights? Sounds like Heathrow! 🙂

    • @pegcity4eva
      @pegcity4eva 5 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like the airport in Florence Italy

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 3 місяці тому

      @@pegcity4evaor Berlin

    • @zainnensey2552
      @zainnensey2552 6 днів тому

      I used to be Muslim and they would tell us how you needed to have patience. One of the examples cited was Jeddah customs and immigration during the Hajj. Apparently, patience is required because they're understaffed (deliberately or otherwise).
      Well done, Saudi immigration control, you turned what should be a high quality customer service experience into a religious exercise which no one should have to go through.

  • @ss9702
    @ss9702 Рік тому +2

    Hi, the prayer made on descend was for umrah goers (pilgrimage). There is a section in flight after entering red sea. Where announcement is made, people change in to the white clothes and pray in the prayers room at back to do the preparation for Umrah pilgrimage. Thats what that was all about.

  • @Jay_Wolfe
    @Jay_Wolfe 4 місяці тому +12

    I've watched a number of your videos now, and I have to admit that the one thing I really appreciate seeing, or hearing, is that you've gone to the effort to learn hello's, goodbyes, thank you's, etc in quite a number of different languages. It's something quite small, but so nice to know others make some kind of effort to do this.

  • @mazincraft1
    @mazincraft1 Рік тому +5

    The prayer call near jeddah is only on jeddah planes because it's the main airport for pilgrims coming into makkah and it's a reminder for them to change their clothes and prepare

    • @beaudragon
      @beaudragon Рік тому

      Wish this year i could fly to jeddah soon for umrah. Last year in january i took a saudia dreamliner from kuala lumpur to medina with a quick stop in riyadh. Pleasant experience 🤍

  • @we-hb4ni
    @we-hb4ni Рік тому +25

    I can imagine Saudia’s management will be cringing on seeing this one 🤨🛬

    • @007knick
      @007knick Рік тому +9

      If UA-cam is even allowed there….

    • @malconsak
      @malconsak Рік тому +6

      @007knick it is. I'm from "there" lol. Saudia airlines are sh!t tho and everyone here knows that lmao there's new two national airlines that would be coming in the next few years

  • @Mizu-AM
    @Mizu-AM 5 місяців тому +3

    not the two people clapping when the plane landed

  • @delmar9715
    @delmar9715 Рік тому +9

    Hi Noel, love your work! Always providing insightful and honest reviews. I love the reaction of the check-in lady. Seems like having customers isn't a priority according to her? Keep up the good fight. Much appreciated.

  • @fredskronk
    @fredskronk Рік тому +80

    Good on Noel for not drinking any longer. We all remember the time he emptied a ships entire minibar in about twenty minutes.

    • @97I30T
      @97I30T Рік тому +17

      That video was hilarious. It's one of my favorite videos Noel has ever done.

    • @jamesmilligan4030
      @jamesmilligan4030 Рік тому +10

      That was one of Noel's best vids and one I have watched a few times and had a great old chuckle too... How he kept his sea legs I really don't know lol

    • @cocodelocofashion6424
      @cocodelocofashion6424 Рік тому +6

      @@jamesmilligan4030 hey I’ve been subbed to Noel for quite sometime now and haven’t seen the vid your talking about. Sounds great and I’d love to watch it..could someone please point me in the right direction to find it? I mean how long ago or what was the name of the video? I’d greatly appreciate your help in finding this video..thank you in advance and for your time…

    • @007knick
      @007knick Рік тому

      Do you have a link?

    • @leonredbon
      @leonredbon Рік тому

      Pass the link along. I’d love to see it as well😂

  • @howardjones6582
    @howardjones6582 Рік тому +38

    When you took off you probably entered a no fly zone . the same used to happen when taking off from Bengazi in Libya . passenger comfort never came into it as soon as you had wing clearance it was hard to port or starboard depending on wind direction

  • @StevoE7
    @StevoE7 Рік тому +11

    Check in lady: "business classss?!" She was horrified lol.
    Other than the on-ground experience, I'd say it looks like they have incredible catering and a decent onboard service. I get the outdated aircraft for a generally short daytime flight. I think the large comfortable seats are adequate, particularly as they have power and USB. Entertainment is definitely outdated, but that didn't surprise me. I wouldn't call this "awful", just average.

  • @Jay_Force_One
    @Jay_Force_One Рік тому +7

    Pretty sure there is a steep take off requirement out of Tunis due to airspace requirements.
    Trust me though, Airliners can climb way steeper than most people think they could. There is a ton of power in those engines and when the air is real dense close to the ground…..sheesh. They can really get it.

  • @krystofpalenicek5974
    @krystofpalenicek5974 Рік тому +11

    Btw, somewhere amongst the stored Tunisair planes is TS-IML, the first aircaft I ever flew. This flight turned me into an avgeek and 2023 marks 15 years of my professional aviation carreer.
    Anyway, thank you for your excellent videos, Lord Philips! :-)

  • @neonunderground5972
    @neonunderground5972 Рік тому +8

    Wow. That lady at checkin really didn’t hide her disgust.

  • @kaffir76
    @kaffir76 7 місяців тому +5

    1:50 BUSINESS CLASS?! 😂😂

  • @Djm8520
    @Djm8520 8 місяців тому +3

    Having lived/worked in Riyadh, I flew Saudi often. I found the airport in Riyadh to be fairly efficient and the service on the planes to be friendly. The food is only serviceable and, of course, you cannot get alcohol. Their flights to Geneve and Heathrow were very good and their Business Class prices are amongst the cheapest.

  • @bill_lumbergh
    @bill_lumbergh Рік тому +9

    Countries that hate tourists so much deserve none

  • @elliott7268
    @elliott7268 Рік тому +82

    Pilot here, I fly the A320 family of aircraft which is pretty similar to the A330 family in some ways. Not entirely sure why you would have had such a high climb rate or expedited climb. Could be some kind of saudi airlines SOP, or standard operating procedure, on their A330 but I doubt it. I'm guessing it was a tunis airport/ATC procedure. Could have been something from the particular SID, or standard instrument departure, that they received clearance for. Or maybe ATC requested they expedite their initial climb. I'm really not sure as it was probably airport/airline specific.

    • @vetmedin
      @vetmedin Рік тому +5

      or 1+F with high trend vector😅

    • @elliott7268
      @elliott7268 Рік тому +11

      @@vetmedin well yeah that too. Wouldn't be too steep though. Noel flies on aircraft for a living so I assume when he says it was pretty steep, it must have been pretty dang steep.

    • @Elnino2910
      @Elnino2910 Рік тому +2

      @@elliott7268 realistically it’s near impossible for a passenger to be able to tell if it’s a steep climb or not as they base it on +ve g-loads and not the aircrafts actual ROC.

    • @elliott7268
      @elliott7268 Рік тому +11

      @@Elnino2910 well yes you are kind of right, but you can still tell after decades of flying wether or not a climb out is steeper than usual.

    • @paulsengupta971
      @paulsengupta971 Рік тому +8

      @@Elnino2910 There's also the angle between the window and the horizon.

  • @peacefulpleb
    @peacefulpleb 4 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for this, Tunisia is now off my list of places to visit what an unfriendly lot they seem.

  • @CricketGirrl
    @CricketGirrl 8 місяців тому +11

    I was amazed at how fast you flew through customs. I lived in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, from 1980-1997, and things sure have improved. Not the attitudes, though. Lol But Saudi Arabia is a different beast.

    • @ab-ts7md
      @ab-ts7md 8 місяців тому +2

      I lived up north in Jubail 78 - 86. I actually miss it!

    • @CricketGirrl
      @CricketGirrl 8 місяців тому

      @@ab-ts7md I do too!

  • @user-dw8ud2hw5d
    @user-dw8ud2hw5d Рік тому +42

    You are a very patient man. I would not have put up with the rudeness at Tunis airport (what a rude check in agent and lounge agent). Waving people through security without checking boarding cards was extremely worrying. As for the stewardess closing your blind, I would have put it straight back up. Didn't your friend have a lousy Saudia flight followed by a pretty decent flight a few years later.

    • @MykkiOnTheCusp
      @MykkiOnTheCusp Рік тому +12

      What was wrong with the lounge agent? She just looked distracted, not necessarily angry or rude. (It's like if a woman doesn't have a smile pasted on her face 100% of the time, she's perceived as rude or something...)

    • @letter1014
      @letter1014 Рік тому

      @@MykkiOnTheCusp Same

    • @RoyalFlushFan
      @RoyalFlushFan Рік тому +12

      @@MykkiOnTheCusp When you're supposed to provide customer service, let alone a premium one (as a lounge in an airport), it's not asked too much to suspend your distraction for a few seconds and look at the customer checking in with you.

    • @tsunamis82
      @tsunamis82 8 місяців тому +2

      She probably closed the blind so you didn’t have glare on your screen.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 8 місяців тому

      If he really wanted it open, he could have simply said ‘no thanks’. Geesh.

  • @imu75
    @imu75 Рік тому +6

    20:00 The prayer before landing is actually announcement of crossing border called “Meeqaat” that is the point for UMRA passengers to start their state of special dress code called “Ihraam” and this sort of announcement is made on all airlines including British Airways approaching jeddah as it the gateway to Islam holiest place “Makkah”
    You may google more..
    Welcome to Jeddah

    • @beaudragon
      @beaudragon Рік тому

      MashaaAllah i would love to experience that. Last year i did my umrah but flew from kuala lumpur to medina instead of jeddah. And it was pleasant flying with saudia dreamliner. Planning for umrah again this year and i hope to fly the kul-jed route.

  • @williammccoy7127
    @williammccoy7127 8 місяців тому +3

    I am sailor and spending my last years at sea in the northern hemisphere. After 40 years i had enough of this struggle traveling all over the world to join the vessel. Sick it was sometime, chaotic at best, disaster at worst.

  • @Rose_J
    @Rose_J 7 місяців тому +11

    I seriously don’t know how you can do this all the time. I hate everything about flying, except maybe for the destination. Without a doubt if I get near any airport, I get horribly sick. The last time I flew, I got a burst eardrum during the flight. I know I sound like a whiny, sickly person, but I’m really not. I think I’m just allergic to flying.

  • @LCFC_Chris
    @LCFC_Chris Рік тому +14

    noel i can't express how much i love your sense of humour and flight reviews. absolutely love you, legend

  • @rafflesnh
    @rafflesnh Рік тому +5

    @21:15 " ...and the crew were friendly". I don't consider closing your window blind without asking you first very friendly.

  • @USAFA00
    @USAFA00 Рік тому +3

    If the flight wasn’t very full, that could account for a steep climb out after takeoff. Light fuel load for the relatively short flight and a light payload can mean a 5 degree or more steeper deck angle after takeoff.

  • @craigcowan2971
    @craigcowan2971 Рік тому +1

    Noel digging into his lunch. LOL! He was loving it.

  • @al6773
    @al6773 Рік тому +109

    Great video as always Noel. If that was first/business class I would dread to think what economy was like. The toilets were were disgusting and after only one hour of flight. It appears to have been a very poor flight and one to avoid I think. Thanks for uploading these weekly video’s. 👍

    • @noelphilips
      @noelphilips  Рік тому +15

      Thank you for watching!

    • @byteme11
      @byteme11 Рік тому +5

      @@noelphilips I've seen cleaner portable toilets after a day of sporting events.

    • @nhc__
      @nhc__ 11 місяців тому +2

      انا سعودي واريد ان اوصل لك معلومة ان طيران السعودية افضل من كذا ولاكن طيران السعودية لاترسل الطائرات الفارهه للدول الفقيره قم بتجربه اخرى من دولة جيدة وسوف ترا

    • @ArsenicApplejuice
      @ArsenicApplejuice 8 місяців тому

      @@nhc__shit service for the shit people…. That’s not a winning business strategy for the rest of the world.

    • @gilrandall5802
      @gilrandall5802 5 місяців тому +2

      It doesn't appear that the toilets were cleaned at all. Disgusting for an airline, third world cleanliness and ground service. The hotel was amazing. I would never travel there as customs and security would intimidate me.

  • @sainnt
    @sainnt Рік тому +46

    I had the worst experience at Dammam airport in Saudi Arabia.
    You have to go through passport control before going through security. I had power extension cords in my carry on, and was given the option of leaving them because they're not allowed, or going to check my carry-on in at check in. I wasn't allowed to go back to check-in because I already went through passport control, so I had to leave my cords. I'd traveled to probably 20+ countries with those cords. It was a nightmare.

    • @stevenbrown62
      @stevenbrown62 Рік тому +7

      I've flown through Dammam many, many times and never had such an issue. Is this a new rule?

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt Рік тому +2

      @@stevenbrown62 They told me that power extension cords were not allowed. I know because I had to leave two of mine and had to purchase new ones.

    • @kbboy101
      @kbboy101 11 місяців тому +9

      @@stevenbrown62 Rules are defined by the person in charge at that time and his mood.

  • @tomlee7956
    @tomlee7956 3 місяці тому +2

    I can see why you were nervous on the initial climb but that is normal for the departure out of Tunis, it is actually a requirement. You MUST fly out of John Wayne/Orange County Airport in LA and experience that initial climb thanks to noise abatement procedures there, LOL. As far as the overall Saudia experience, I have flown on their flights 3 dozen times in the last 30 years and I see that they have not changed any all this time, LOL. The Jeddah airport has the same bad service but if you go to Damman, Riyadh, Al Taif and some other places in the interior, you learn to appreciate Jeddah even more, LOL. Thanks for another great video!

  • @marinaharris-du2lr
    @marinaharris-du2lr Рік тому +10

    Love watching your reviews. So honest. As someone who works for check in for a ground handling company it allows me to advise my passengers on their destination and help them in any way possible to make sure that their journey is hopefully as stress free as possible. Thankyou 😊

    • @noelphilips
      @noelphilips  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for that!

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 11 місяців тому

      As a ground handler at a UK airport I have to wonder if the woman was in the wrong job. I hate customer facing roles so I freely chose to work on the apron. I avoid the pax areas like the plague. Maybe she should join us in aircraft services or as a ramper?

  • @allanadsett305
    @allanadsett305 Рік тому +3

    Your experience is so different to what Josh Cahill received on his recent Dreamliner flight from Amsterdam to Jeddah.
    It would appear that not everyone received the updated training.

  • @TroyMorePhotography
    @TroyMorePhotography Рік тому +25

    Between the heightened security and the steep climb out, it almost seems like they were being extra cautious about something.

    • @jacquelinebutters1201
      @jacquelinebutters1201 8 місяців тому

      Payback for what westerners think of their people😢

    • @jimarcher5255
      @jimarcher5255 8 місяців тому +2

      Hand held missiles.

    • @d.n.8919
      @d.n.8919 3 місяці тому

      They have to be extra cautious in that part of the world

  • @JohnsonsAtranny
    @JohnsonsAtranny Місяць тому +1

    The high take off angle and speed are for security purposes. It’s similar when talking off and landing in Tel Aviv

  • @waschosen-
    @waschosen- 10 місяців тому +2

    I have heard a pilot say that there were issues with excessive angle of attack during the takeoff of the 737 (due to the installation of new powerful engines), which is why the Max version incorporated the MCAS system. I believe everyone is familiar with what happened afterward.

  • @ulfstrom
    @ulfstrom Рік тому +10

    Superb video as usual. You are the best aviation youtuber out there. Keep on the good work, Lord Noel!

  • @JohnDoe-lt4kl
    @JohnDoe-lt4kl Рік тому +48

    If asked to pray during final approach, pay close attention to whether it is a pre-recorded message, or a live passenger announcement from the cockpit.

  • @pegersisuk
    @pegersisuk Рік тому +4

    Brilliant hotel room, plane was very tired 😫, great video as always noel 🙏

  • @francisbishop5158
    @francisbishop5158 4 місяці тому +1

    I flew Saudi a week ago Jan 2024, and they are absolutely horrible. They don’t pick up the trash on the floor, the passengers are few disrespectful and the flight attendants don’t do anything about them. I only flew them because I had too (free ticket)

  • @ThibaultTresca
    @ThibaultTresca Рік тому +7

    jeddah's airport left a lasting impression on me lol, I was travelling with drum cymbals and the armed security guards did not understand what they were and kept yelling at me 😅😅 all while gripping the assault rifle in their hands, airport was also quite depressing. ---but free wifi though haha

    • @henriettagibril6381
      @henriettagibril6381 5 місяців тому

      Why didn't you give them an impromptu demonstration of how they work?

  • @_tm11
    @_tm11 Рік тому +130

    Lord Noel, where do you buy so much patience from? That was an absolutely horrendous nightmare! Well done to you, thanks for the video

    • @noelphilips
      @noelphilips  Рік тому +9

      Many thanks!

    • @jimarcher5255
      @jimarcher5255 8 місяців тому +2

      Not so bad. The pilot didn’t fly into a building.

    • @dennisheath3747
      @dennisheath3747 8 місяців тому +3

      Having been in international jobs most of my life and having travelled to 65+ Countries and millions of miles (including living in Saudi Arabia) I can assure you that Noel's attitude is the only way to be. If you react badly to rude service, your day will go from bad to worse, remembering that the rude people serving you have temporary power over your life! They can make life even more difficult if they don't like your attitude. I've witnessed people getting angry with airline or ground staff. It never ends well for them.

  • @joshuav9005
    @joshuav9005 Рік тому +7

    How could they check everyone’s bag at the gate without adding a good hour’s delay? Hopefully they started boarding early.

  • @sammyomrani268
    @sammyomrani268 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for visiting us in tunis, I didnt think i was ever going to stumble upon a travel youtuber going to such an unknown location

  • @raoulmontefiore4803
    @raoulmontefiore4803 Місяць тому +1

    6:33 a generous glass of whisky 😂

  • @mazincraft1
    @mazincraft1 Рік тому +4

    i once flown with them from Khartoum Sudan to Riyadh and swore to never do it again , the search at the plane is just demeaning tbh , i went with Qatar airways a few weeks ago and it's a whole other rather lovely experience

  • @smokersvlogsobaidchawla1213
    @smokersvlogsobaidchawla1213 8 місяців тому +7

    While Saudia is really trying to replicate the "Dubai" model, they still have a long way to go in terms of providing the 'experience' of excellent customer service. I regularly fly between Dubai and Karachi, on both Emirates and FlyDubai, and while FlyDubai is supposed to be a budget airline, the airport staff, the flight crew, the service, everything is just amazing. Its just this difference in service levels that no one can beat Emirates in this game.

    • @aysh444
      @aysh444 6 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely agree. I went to Saudi for 11 days and was appalled at how rude they were, especially coming from the Uk and being used to excellent customer service. They sure have a very long way to go!

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 5 місяців тому

      @@aysh444
      Well imagine living there? How could anyone not be miserable?

  • @joehughes7962
    @joehughes7962 3 місяці тому

    Good luck Tracy . Hope and pray everything will go beautifully . I will be right here waiting for you and the family next video

  • @matthewviti2241
    @matthewviti2241 Рік тому

    Great video! Reminds of my when I flew Alitalia into and out of Tunis in 2004. Airport still looks the same. I'll never forget on departure from TUN in a thunderstorm there was huge bang and flash. Think we got struck by lightning, but don't know for sure. Remember the cabin crew then going through the cabin standing on seats and smelling around for something in the overhead bins. We landed normally in FCO later on after a big diversion due to the storms.

  • @jamespallister2031
    @jamespallister2031 Рік тому +7

    4:26 I’m guessing their checking for alcohol since Saudia actually enforces the dry airline rule

  • @melglobus
    @melglobus Рік тому +3

    Omg Noel this was a hilarious video, really enjoyed it despite your pretty lacklustre experience. Looking forward to the Saudi adventures ahead!!

  • @eriksandneshsien4571
    @eriksandneshsien4571 Рік тому +2

    Well done finding the positives while noe exactly receiving a 5 star experience 😊. Love your videos!

  • @geraldinemulry2115
    @geraldinemulry2115 Рік тому +5

    Hi Noel love your videos. Can’t believe the rudeness of the staff in airport. Well you are always in good humor well done 😊

  • @royferguson2297
    @royferguson2297 Рік тому +7

    Probably the flight used by pilgrims going to Mecca. I worked in Saudi and was in various Ports on Ships i found it ok,back in 1977 you were not allowed to were shorts then but by the 90s you could, back in the day the shopping in Jeddah was great 50 king Edward Cigars in UK were £50, £5 in Jeddah, Seiko watches etc cheap and the real thing. There is a change in engine speed when climbing which can shock you.

  • @Dlo_9022
    @Dlo_9022 Рік тому +26

    I flew into Riyadh King Khalid International Airport and customs queue was not that long for me a bit confusing at first since they were processing national passengers first then they started processing visitors. I’m still in Saudi Arabia I been here since last month and I’m enjoying the country so far, you should fly into Riyadh it’s a nice city here and the locals here are very nice people I’ve had a pleasant stay so far.

  • @iandavies9576
    @iandavies9576 8 місяців тому +2

    Congratulations on your patience and all round good humour. The Tunis check in stewardess certainly needs to move to a non customer facing role but at the end of the day there are no bad workers; just bad management; who, in this instance, haven’t trained their customer facing personnel

    • @Volkaer
      @Volkaer Місяць тому

      I dunno man, most people don't need "training" to not act like dicks, and tend to use common sense when dealing with customers for their companies, regardless of what those companies are.

  • @chrisblackler4202
    @chrisblackler4202 11 місяців тому +7

    Well that woman at the start checking you in was damn well rude!! Hope she sued the charm school!! 😆

  • @egpx
    @egpx Рік тому +3

    "This one hasn't got a strap on". Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd hear on one of Noel's videos!

  • @HLl564
    @HLl564 11 місяців тому +21

    Experiences like these keeps tourists away for sure. They treated you like a terrorist until proven unguilty.

    • @Kristina-mm9ih
      @Kristina-mm9ih 8 місяців тому +4

      If we would have done the same to them, they would have called it racism.

    • @dcat33
      @dcat33 8 місяців тому

      Either way, better safe than sorry. Treat me like a terrorist baby and everyone else too

    • @KimiFan2002
      @KimiFan2002 8 місяців тому

      So basically your average security officer…

    • @user-tk2sc3rz9t
      @user-tk2sc3rz9t 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Kristina-mm9ihso true!

  • @jeremyroberts39
    @jeremyroberts39 8 місяців тому +2

    I once flew to Dammam from the UK. It took longer to get through customs than the 6.5 hour flight. I do remember that on Saudia they were selling their aftershave named..... 'Jet Lag'!!!!!

  • @anthonyhopkins984
    @anthonyhopkins984 Рік тому +10

    As someone who works in the humidification industry I’d be more worried about all the germs floating in the air with humidity that low!

  • @alix5704
    @alix5704 Рік тому +4

    Did you ever have the airport workers give you so much hassle that you missed a flight? And I don't know about the severe angle of attack, but I do remember decades ago at O'Hare, the planes all had to make rocket launches because the surrounding suburbs were complaining about the noise (O'Hare is an extension of Chicago on an "island" surrounded by angry suburbs). I was on a crowded L1011 taking off like that. No fun. I think the modern, quieter planes have done away with many of the noise complaints, though. You never hear about it much anymore from the O'Hare suburbs.

  • @n1msu
    @n1msu Рік тому +6

    Noel, I just wondered if you'd be able to pull up the air quality stats from when you left the terminal if that gizmo stores historical data, as the air looked super dusty during the landing! I bet the cars over there have to change their engine filters before their oil!

    • @777rogerf
      @777rogerf Рік тому +2

      In Saudi, an immense dust storms called something like a "haboob" (?). can engulf you without without warning The temperature drops and the dust can turn into horizontal rain and mud. If there are hills the tops can be encircled with thunder and lightning, followed by small flash floods. You should park, because a running engine sucks in dust and stalls. This happened to me and a friend don the way to diving in the Red Sea. We were rescued by a Beduin (100 Riyals), but he dropped us off at the remote seashore where the air was clean but there was no one in sight. We were rescued because we found two Indonesians huddled under a makeshift tent. I speak a bit of their language.They had been fishing and had. a scheduled pickup. They kindly let be taken first to our company town in the interior.

  • @johnsaunders8315
    @johnsaunders8315 5 місяців тому +2

    The take-off sounds like a tactical take-off. Used to get as high up as quickly as you can to avoid small arms fire.

  • @dash2048
    @dash2048 Рік тому +1

    I've flown Saudi Airlines a couple months ago for the first time actually. It was pretty decent I'd say. My route was from Munich to Jeddah and Jeddah to Jakarta and back again. The crew was nice, the food was overall good. the entertainment system was a bit lacking though. it actually didn't work for almost the whole 9 hours flight...

  • @macboy19
    @macboy19 Рік тому +3

    I believe the steep departure angle is due to the security requirements in restricted air space.

  • @TheRareVideosXL
    @TheRareVideosXL Рік тому +3

    Thank you for your honest reviews.
    Great content as always.
    Keep it up.

  • @Bobmcjoepants
    @Bobmcjoepants 6 місяців тому +1

    After watching this and many other videos of terrible airport and flight experiences, I finally understand why some countries require security checks again before entering...

  • @Ingagimusic
    @Ingagimusic Рік тому +2

    The steep angle might be due to a full power take off. They would then use that kind of AOA as an air break in order to comply with the speed limit below FL100.