Maybe he doesn't understand English. It wouldn't be difficult for Noel to deduce what was happening even if the conversation was totally in Portuguese.
Yes! For a moment I was thinking...is there a different guy on a different "next to him" because he can't be talking to the man right there. But he was! 😂
14:21 As the flight was chartered to EuroAtlantic, the EuroAtlantic crew will conduct all safety and security duties as they are rated on the type and in the aircraft country of registration. The LAM crew will be there to conduct the service ONLY as they are not rated on the aircraft type/ the country it is registered. This happens frequently with many airlines that do not have direct partners when faced with fleet constraints
I flew once from Tbilisi to Yerevan on FlyOneArmenia...or was supposed to. We waited and waited and waited. Btw, I was the only non-local. (The locals in ex-Soviet countries usually think I am Estonian, Russian/other CIS or ex-Comecon)... And suddenly an unmarked aircraft (except a registration with a prefix I had never seen before) turned up at the gate. With an Armenian-Russian-BrokenEnglish-speaking crewmember for announcements and airplane plus rest of crew from Mongolian Cargo (!) Anyway there was no onboard service because TBS-EVN on a jet is a very short hop and I didn't mind who was who onboard since I could communicate with them all rudimentary in Russian... The Mongolian flight attendants were veeery cute and kind, btw, and I now have a Mongolian Airways Cargo A-320 safety card in my collection 🤭
Noel is an egoist. All the other pasengers of the LAM flight will have even more delay if he is away suddenly and the crew is trying to find him to continue the flight.
Oh dear they will take away his option of a taxi ride ro a 5 star hotel, and in the morning, a taxi to the airport to book an overpriced scheduled flight back to the UK, which is what happened when a Greyhound trip was cancelled. There is no risk for this fraud.
I'd done exactly the same thing in Guangzhou in China. I was flying with China Southern, and was supposed to connect through Guangzhou on a flight to Beijing, and then meet up with some friends and then we'd be catching an overland train to a 3rd city. Our flight was delayed due to weather and we missed the connection so they put us on buses and sent us to a hotel. Next morning on route back to the airport, they were trying to shepherd everyone back through an express security section (to reboard the flight and continue to Beijing) and I said I just needed to use the bathroom, ducked away from the group, got down to the train station and hopped on an express bullet train to the next city to meet my friends and ended up getting there 2hrs early! Fate has a funny way of working sometimes
@@punkstatic87 US-based airlines will cancel the entire reservation if you miss any leg generally by default. But how it works in the rest of the world? Anyone's guess!
@@punkstatic87 depends on the fare rules. It's different for every airline, and then also class-type of ticket. Generally it's a no-no and airlines will either contact you for a please explain or simply cancel the rest of the fair outright. During my layover I checked the fare rules and it said there was no charge or penalties for cancelling legs of the flight so I got out unscathed
I used to station in Durban for work. I had a colleague back then whom was previously living in Maputo. He told me LAM stands for Lost Around Mozambique 🤣
It's rather disrespectful for an airline to move a passenger from a window seat to designate it as a crew rest seat. The crew could have perfectly rested in the middle seat, rather than moving a paying passenger from their chosen seat to that middle seat.
It’s probably a privacy/legal thing, on top of that crew rest is probably the pilot(s). Do you want your pilot possibly not getting enough sleep or being disturbed? Just a thought
@@davidwarren202 look I really don’t want to be in a pressure vessel at 35000 feet going 500mph. The last thing I want is the guy in control not feeling 100% ready for that task. Too many crashes are pilot error already
I don't understand why the captain could not use the crew sleeping areas all these wide body planes have. Some have sleeping crew areas above the cabin space and others below the cabin space.
I saw a documentary about the Tenerife airport disaster (1977) and it was a similar situation concerning an escape. A KLM 747 headed for nearby Gran Canaria was diverted, along with many other planes to Tenerife. A woman tour-guide who actually lived on Tenerife also did an "escape" from the rest of the passengers and left the airport, instead of getting back on that ill-fated plane which would soon smash into a Pan AM 747 with a 100% fatality rate. She is effectively the only survivor from the KLM plane. Of course both Tenerife and Gran Canaria belong to Spain, so there was no way they could have legally forced her back onto the plane but in any case I think when there are diversions many air restrictions can be waived, though you don´t want to take the risk that the staff will still insist you getting back on.
It's interesting that with international flights sometimes an "escape" is needed. Whereas for a domestic flight a traveler can simply choose not to travel. Realistically, unless immigration regulations/restrictions are involved, at traveler can simply refuse to board and just leave the airport. If immigration restrictions are involved, refusing to board would likely lead to forced boarding or deportation later on.
Since I was curious and looked it up myself: EuroAtlantic are a Portuguese charter airline who apparently specialise in wet-lease operations like this one.
The meal looks like Octopus!! When I was a flight attendant, catering did that to us too! They put the wrong labels, or they gave us the wrong carts. The manifest would tell us what the meal options are. But when we open the cart, surprise!!! Worse, during covid we were no longer allowed to remove the foil to check for mistakes.
Regarding the inflight meal: You know what they say, octopus is the lamb of the sea... if it had eight arms, was a predator, a beak, and you've never seen a sheep.
The crew on Turkish Airlines tried to move us from our seats that we reserved and paid for as they wanted to sit there, I explained that we had paid for the seats, the stews weren't happy but fair play, their chief stew told them to sit elsewhere, it was just after Covid and they weren't doing any kind of service anyway
That airline appears to kick passengers from window seats so they can give them to crew instead. That is disgusting behavour of the airline. The customer should come first
@@QCCatPlanes Airlines are required (by EASA/FAA regulations) to rest crew on medium-/long-haul flights in lie-flat seats. And, to utilize the blackout curtains (also a requirement), a window seat is required because there's no way to partition the middle seat with a curtain.
I have done this before. I was the highest status with an airline and I didn't want to give up my seat because they have the status written by seat number and for me service was more important than a view i've already seen.
@@ParumPirum I mean, the plane (and IFE system) probably are from EuroAtlantic, so if it doesn't work the LAM crew can't do anything about it. As for the catering, it depends on who handled/provided that, FA's probably have no influence but the airline (LAM) is more directly responsible for this one. It seems strange to me that they bother to put their own crew on board, as I'd think it more efficient to let the wet lease crew handle that
Yes, it’s a wet lease. So theoretically you shouldn’t have to add more crew, but obviously they had to. The LAM staff would still have to help with evacuation etc.
@@ParumPirumIn cases like this with ACMI wet leases, it means EuroAtlantic is in charge of the aircraft and the safety procedures, therefore the screen/IFE issue is EuroAtlantic’s fault. Meanwhile service and catering is done from the client’s side, hence LAM, so the awful choices of food (especially for business class) is on LAM’s fault. Hope this helped!
We've all been there before: when the airline and the ground staff don't have their shit together, don't expect them to notice when one of the passengers goes missing!
The EuroAtlantic crew is onboard for safety purposes. Essentially they operate the doors in an emergency. The LAM crew is there for the inflight service. That's often how these arrangements work.
Awesome case of unintentional reverse skiplag. Not going to lie, I watched the video to the end to see if you got tackled by security after saying things work out in the end... ;)
Just wanted to say that I love how your always able to silo your opinions about the different aspects of the airlines you review and not let your disappointment in one area carry over into other areas in a bias way. I feel like a-lot of travel content creators don’t do that. They have a bad check in experience for example and you can just tell they are carrying that negative attitude throughout the rest of the video. 🤦♂️
When I worked at a major airline, the crew weren't assigned to a seat that was assigned to a fare paying passenger. One thing that I enjoy about what you do, you will adventure into interesting places that are not the common places people travel to.
When a 767 flies international, the crew gets a seat in the cabin because 767 does not have crew rest bunks. Remember he stated originally he was supposed to be on a 777 and it was downgraded to a 767. However his seat was not changed at time of check in. Not until he got to the gate. I worked for a major airline at the ticket counter and gates for 9 years and now a flight crew for 10 years.
@@verabolton They don't have to sleep, merely rest, and giving them a window seat means they're less likely to be disturbed by a passenger net to them.
First all, you are always so gracious to airline personnel. Considering the seat change, inop IFE and the unwanted octopus, you continue to smile and carry on with good cheer! As a retired 33 year airline crew member, you are too good to be true! Now as for entering the Republic of South Africa without going through customs/Immigration and disappearing from your Maputo flight, I will be anxious to see if that set off any alarms. I hope all went well! I'll be at the edge of my lie flat seat until the next episode!!
I had my boarding pass already for the next (international) flight so I didn’t need to enter SA, I stayed airside. Also they ended up canceling the flight entirely and putting other passengers on another airline to Maputo so they weren’t looking for me
It made for a more unusual story to share on UA-cam, so it's probably a net win for him in terms of viewership and corresponding revenue. I have no clue why UA-cam recommended this videos to me but here I am.
that "lamb" (octopus) you ate is an popular portuguese dish known as "polvo à lagareiro" -- personally, one of my favorite portuguese dishes. being served something like that on a plane blows my mind... looks much better than the typical microwaved lean cuisine prision meal.
You’re a brave man, Noel Philips! When I was flying globally for work I always wanted all the Is dotted and Ts crossed before setting out. This trip in particular featured some elements that would have been my worst nightmare. Seat change, bad food, diverted etc. Ugh! Love your vlogs! 👍🏻👍🏻
If there was a checked bag, and the bag's owner did not re-board, would the airline be required to remove the checked bag from the airplane, because "unaccompanied" luggage (a bomb?) is prohibited from being carried? Also, if there was a checked-bag that was tagged to Noel's final destination (Jo'burg ?), the airline's responsibility is to carry it there. Granted, it may take a week for the airline to reroute it to Jo'burg, and to notify Noel of its final location. Noel did say that he had another flight (on another airline?) that day. Noel may have needed to eventually physically return to Jo'burg to claim his bag. So, not having any checked bags was the key to this "escape".
I had a very similar situation happen to me a while back. Was scheduled to fly from St Louis to Orlando but a snow storm rolled into St Louis and grounded nearly all outbound flights, including mine. I was stuck in the airport until I saw a flight to Fort Myers was scheduled to leave. I needed to be back in Florida asap, so I switched from Orlando to the Fort Myers flight. We took off out of St Louis and then after a few hours they announced that they would need to make an early landing due to the “Lavatory being frozen.” And guess where we had to land, Orlando. 😂
Woohoo 🙌 Noel, it’s always exciting to see what’s going to happen to you each episode. I think that flights is definite for locals, the food being the biggest give away. I loves that you could escape and not have to go re do the flight. ❤❤❤
I fly every year to Mozambique from Portugal and when I do, it's always with Turkish Airlines. I don't mind the time it takes to get to Mozambique compared with TAP/LAM. The price is cheaper and the service is far better than the other two companies.
But if something goes wrong with Turkish, good luck! (Cancelled flight, delayed flight, missed connection, lost baggage, change of aircraft type, delayed baggage, EU261 claim etc etc with Turkish means BIG PROBLEM) I know, I tried them once and NEVER AGAIN!!! Their cabin crews usually work hard but if something goes wrong, they are a mess!!
Me! It can be a sign of autism. I have Asperger's....a mild form of autism, and one of the signs is a tendency to fixate on small moving details rather than the overall scene. I do this all the time.
@@Roadent1241 Alerting ground crew of the running engine and to stay well clear. It's basically to visualize the spinning turbine in a very noisy environment.
Yeah it's funny. Noel isn't the type of person I'm usually drawn to but it just feels like comfort food to me. Noel is also real and I guess the fact that even when he is flying "fancy class" he doesn't play it up and is the same person he always is. This, Mentour Pilot and the Why Files are my current YT comfort food. The news channels have been far too depressing lately.
I can’t wait to hear how the rest of your trip goes. You seem to have “escaped”, so far… My best wishes to you & your family! Happy travels!!! Thank you for all you do-
My flight to the United States Virgin Islands was diverted to Puerto Rico because of very bad weather. After spending two nights in PR, I was sent a notice that I had been rebooked to the British Virgin Islands. It took two hours of them saying “we are allowed to rebook you anywhere within 40 miles of your original destination” and me saying “not if it’s another whole country, and an island - am I supposed to swim home if I ever get out of immigration jail?” before they re-rebooked me to the USVI, the next day.
no idea how it took me until Noel pointed it out in the Loo for me to realise that he had been wearing a shirt around the airport and plane with a Loo on it the whole time 🤣 what a legend
Pineapples are stereotypically a symbol of hospitality. They’re also a symbol of Jensen Beach, Florida, which used to grow most pineapples for the Eastern Seaboard of the United States. Then a series of freezes and other disasters stopped that.
Lots of airports don’t have border force before getting to the departure hall (they would only have it before going to baggage claim). Also, a lot of airports disembark directly into the departure hall (Edinburgh, UK and Changi, Singapore spring to mind). So he may not have needed to clear security or immigration
Yes, this seems to be a relatively modern thing, especially with big, hub-type airports such as Singapore and KL. But UK? Really? I fly fairly frequently and I am sure that LHR does not have mingling of arrival and departure. One of the extremely annoying consequences of having a mingling of arriving passengers and departing passengers is the need for a double security check. So you have to go though security at the entrance to airside and you have to do it all over again at the general departure gate area. Really, really annoying. Or maybe that is just me. 😐
But the main issue is whether he was flying internationally or not. If it was a domestic SA flight, then he would have needed to go through immigration first. If it is international then yes possibly he can claim he was transiting but at the very least there would have to be a security check.
@@thisismonitor4099There might be security at the gate if you are on a connecting flight? Or it might be considered safe since you have been airside the entire time. He did mention in the video he was going to another country so I assume that means it was international.
@@maijo2597 Can't speak for Heathrow, in 2016 I flew STL-BHX via IAD and CPH, at CPH I went straight to the BHX flight with no check, at BHX we went thru the EU arrivals for customs even though I originated in the US which seemed a bit odd to me
@@007knick yip, so he would only go through x ray and metal detector . and all they check is boarding pass and passport correspond...not immigration...he never entered SA... same as flying via Dubai, which is like a Fedex for people, they just offload the planes, chuck the people into the mall, resort them and reload them... security checks, but no immigraotion/customs. you thus never enter Dubai.. just check names and boarding passes. Johannesburg is the hub for Southern Africa, so plenty people transit to Botswana, Namibia, Zim and Moz through it without actually entering SA... you stay airside..Same for most Hub airports...Only Heathrow caused an issue with terminal 5 , which is seperate, and requires immigration and transit visas. Mate of mine was detained at heathrow for 24 hrs cos his travel agent had booked a ticket via Heathrow without informing him ( or did not know the terminal 5 situation) of need for transit visa (South Africans require visas for UK) It is only when you change to a local flight that you exit customs/immigration and they just want to know that your passport and visa are in order...the assumption being that if you are airside that you came on a plane from somewhere..so immigration does in any country does not check your boarding pass...not their job. only possible to do what he did without a checked bag. Leaving a plane with a checked bag onboard SHOULD cause alarm bells. I once spent 3 hrs on the tarmac at Charles de Gaulle due to a miscount of the heads that ended in all bags being offloaded onto the tarmac and each of us having to put our bag onto the conveyor back into the plane. When no bags were left over , they recounted and found the error... no apology! Skiplagging is a thing , especially in USA, but on their internal flights.. I live in CapeTown and it is usually cheaper to fly to Venice in Italy via Dubai than it is to buy a ticket to Dubai...on the same plane...Vagaries of airline pricing.. I however would not try this stunt with the Dubai authorities 🤣and have thus been in Dubai on numerous occasions, but never entered it.
Hello Noel The reason there was 2 set of crew is pretty simple LAM was there as service crew or representative and Eurotlantic was there for safety reason means they hold CCA ( Cabin crew attestation) who allowed them to operate on an European registered aircraft. It’s common in ACMI operation. Safe flights
@@scottevans2685That’s not what was said at all. It’s a EuroAtlantic aircraft charted by Lam, but not reconfigured to a Mozambique registration. It’s Portuguese registered so a Portuguese crew have to be onboard for ensuring Portuguese safety standards are being met. Lam crew are there to ensure their service is being done per their standards. If anything, the TL;DR is: Lam needs to buy more planes.
I had my boarding pass already for the next (international) flight so I didn’t need to enter SA, I stayed airside. Also they ended up canceling the flight entirely and putting other passengers on another airline to Maputo so they weren’t looking for me
@@ArthurTanner-d7s Your loss. Octopus and squid are amazing. If you can justify eating fish there's zero difference except your preconceived prejudice and fear.
Once I was delayed and missed a connection at Dulles... offered the next flight out in the morning, I declined and asked for the *last* flight out... then I spent the day at Udvar-Hazy, the premier airplane/space museum in the world! Sometimes things *do* work out, don't they?
I almost spat my drink out when that sheep popped up on the screen to baaaa at us. Thanks, Noel, HAHA. Nice getaway, though. Sometimes things do just work out like that :)
Does that mean a single Point A to Point B flight on this airline is called a “Leg of LAM”? If you’re on the flight and the Aircon is broken so you’re broiling in the heat, does that make it a “Roast Leg of LAM”?
The more I watch your videos Noel, Josh's and a few others, the more I feel that almost invariably buying Business Class is a waste of money. How many videos have I seen now where the food is awful, the seat not perfect, the entertainment not working, the crew mediocre, where lounge access or fast track security is not part of the package! You simply do not get what you have paid for!
Nowadays you fly business class to have half a chance at sleeping enough to power through the day and avoid bad jet lag. That's pretty much all to be honest. Yet business class fares are reaching outrageous levels.
Main reason for flying business class is flexibility. Meeting with someone has been canceled? You can fly home early, or if things take longer than planned you can fly later. These tickets are easy to change and rebook and there's usually seats available in biz class on flights.
7:40 That's what airlines are doing now, they are splitting up tickets that booked together to different seats, then they make you pay extra to select seats together. I flew Korean Air earlier this year with my mother who is handicapped, they split our seats and the flight crew refused to let us seat together even though the seat next to my mom's seat was empty. If you want to seat together, never buy two tickets in the same reservation, just book two tickets separately then request a specific seat number and see if you get lucky instead.
I always apreaciate The subtle moment's of Noels wisecracks gets me chuckling belly laughing everytime. His animated practicality makes you feel like your there in Travel....
Euroatlantic is also used time to time by Air France and in such case, they inform in advance. So no pre information about this change? You have the choice to opt out and ask for a refund.
@@pabrennan6877 It does sound like the flight was originally scheduled on a 777, which does have dedicated crew rest areas, then last minute switched to this 767. I believe it's a kind of long flight for a 767 too.
Also why do crew members, whom are supposed to be sleeping, need a window?! Why couldn't they use the less-coveted middle seats for the crew and the passengers that booked a window could keep it. It doesn't make sense.
The Euroatlantic crew is the flying crew that are type-rated and employed by the AOC holder. The LAM crew is there to do service only and are not type-rated on the aircraft and are not allowedrun the aircraft systems. You shuold know this Noel...
For someone who travels so much he doesn't seem to know a lot about travelling and planning but am not sure what he did if it is true and that's a big IF not returning to the plane can cause many issues that's why I think it's BS
I am a cargo airline pilot. It makes zero sense to me to carry non type rated LAM pilots on this flight so I would assume all the pilots are from Euro Atlantic . Training( every 6 months we have retraining)and paying pilots is a very expensive affair and I can guarantee you no airline would train and pay pilots just to offer service or not operate the aircraft. As for cabin crew I would assume the LAM crew are also issued a validation/ conversion to EASA to operate the Euroatlantic aircraft. It is much easier to convert Cabin crew as for pilots it is much harder and expensive. Legally things like evacuation require type rated crew at the mandatory exits so it does not make sense to have LAM cabin crew who can not handle their station during an evacuation.
the way you were saying at the end how things work out for the best, i was expecting someone to place their hand on your shoulder and be like "you're nicked, mate" 😂😂
Euro Atlantic is a Portuguese wet-lease airline, and while it leases planes and crew to airlines all over the world, its focus is on the former Portuguese colonies in Africa. It operates flights for the national airlines of São Tomé and Príncipe, Angola, and Mozambique, some of which are or have been banned from EU airspace with their own planes or might not have the financial means to afford a long-haul jet (though TAAG Angola Airlines do fly their own 777-300ERs to Lisbon as well, yet it wet-leases Euro Atlantic's planes for some flights). And Noel, if you love Lisbon and "custard tarts" so much, it's time you learned their proper name, it isn't so hard, and they might not understand you if you ask for a "custard tart". Singular form: *"pastel de nata"* (in the approximate local pronunciation, "pash-TELL-DNAH-tah", like the Dubai-based catering company). Plural form: *"pastéis de nata"* ("pash-TAYESH-DNAH-tah"). The name means literally "cream pastry".
@@sachaquadrelli4674, not exactly true. The little tart is called "pastel de nata". But there is a specific bakery in the Lisbon district of Belém that makes particularly good and renowned ones, and THOSE are "pastéis de Belém". Elsewhere they are just "pastéis de nata".
Last flight I took was from Reykjavik to Seattle. I had paid extra to have a seat in the front just behind the barrier between business and coach, as I wanted the extra leg room. Lady across the aisle asked if she could switch with me. Turns out the gentleman who had the window seat (2-4-2 configuration), next to me was her newlywed husband, and they wanted to sit together. How could I refuse?
since its a chartered aircraft the LAM cabin crew probably aren't rated on the 767, so there's a chance the LAM crew are their to provide the service to passengers and the Euro Atlantic crew are there to make it legal to operate, flight crew and cabin crew.
Noel you are brave man traveling with LAM, even though Mozambique has some of the best beaches in the world. And the people of Mozambique are friendly. Lived there for 14 years
One Sunday we boarded a train for Luton to go skiing, and it broke down near Hitchin. After an hour of silence the guard told us we could get off.. in a cutting, and we clamboured up the steep side to hail a taxi. We arrived well after closing of check in but got the chatty girls on side. They eventually told us to walk fast round the back door and run out over the apron, where the plane revving up, was already trundling over the taxi way and came to a stop for us. Two blokes re-pushed some steps over and somehow the luggage door was opened and we threw up the skis and bags up inside the aircraft, missing once until we did it together. Then we ran round to the steps and we climbed up and the plane set off again.
Noel was already in the arrival terminal and by taking the transit lane, he ended up at the security check where they only require an onward ticket out of South Africa, and then stamp the passport with a " transit stamp", then off to the boarding gates for his next flight.
I'm not one to make a huge fuss but receiving octopus in place of lamb could be serious for some being an allergy ( even if it was obvious) I'm sure epi-pens are accessible from the aircraft's first aid kit but it could be assessed that the person was instead choking and medical help is not exactly a phone call away 40 thousand feet in the air.
Speaking of Swifty’s . QANTAS was under pressure to reduce flights from Sydney to Melbourne (which is only about a 70 min flight) so they used an A380 to fly Swifty’s to Melbourne for the concert.
I work for an electronics company. We still run Windows 7 on test equipment and plus Windows 98 on our incircuit system. These testsystem will not run Windows 10 or Windows 11 not compatible. I run or build older computers for the older testsystems or equipment.
14:00 this is probably because the flight crew of LAM is not certified in emergency protocol such as ETOPS or other long haul related safety certifications. This is why they have to lease out Euro Atlantic pilots and crew to meet the ICAO requirements for crew readiness. LAM isn’t certified to run this route on their own.
What happens when it's time for the plane to depart for Maputo? They had 220 get off in JNB, only 219 (or fewer?) returning. Surely that causes additional delay, as they then have to make sure you're not just lost, and that there is no checked luggage to find and remove? (But I would have legged it too.)
I had my boarding pass already for the next (international) flight so I didn’t need to enter SA, I stayed airside. Also they ended up canceling the flight entirely and putting other passengers on another airline to Maputo so they weren’t looking for me
Noel talking bad about the guy next to him while hes sitting right there was savage 😂😂
Maybe he doesn't understand English. It wouldn't be difficult for Noel to deduce what was happening even if the conversation was totally in Portuguese.
Yes! For a moment I was thinking...is there a different guy on a different "next to him" because he can't be talking to the man right there. But he was! 😂
Airplane noise made it impossible for him to hear what he was saying.
Haha - blurs him out and then you can see him in the reflection of the TV screen 😄
No its a different guy. He clearly said the husband and wife each had window seats.
14:21 As the flight was chartered to EuroAtlantic, the EuroAtlantic crew will conduct all safety and security duties as they are rated on the type and in the aircraft country of registration. The LAM crew will be there to conduct the service ONLY as they are not rated on the aircraft type/ the country it is registered. This happens frequently with many airlines that do not have direct partners when faced with fleet constraints
Yep that will be it. TUI did it with Titan airways. TUI staff just did the trolley service
Correct. When EuroAtlantic chartered to Air Niugini, Air Niugini flight crew provided services; EuroAtlantic crew provided safety announcements.
I flew once from Tbilisi to Yerevan on FlyOneArmenia...or was supposed to. We waited and waited and waited. Btw, I was the only non-local. (The locals in ex-Soviet countries usually think I am Estonian, Russian/other CIS or ex-Comecon)... And suddenly an unmarked aircraft (except a registration with a prefix I had never seen before) turned up at the gate. With an Armenian-Russian-BrokenEnglish-speaking crewmember for announcements and airplane plus rest of crew from Mongolian Cargo (!) Anyway there was no onboard service because TBS-EVN on a jet is a very short hop and I didn't mind who was who onboard since I could communicate with them all rudimentary in Russian... The Mongolian flight attendants were veeery cute and kind, btw, and I now have a Mongolian Airways Cargo A-320 safety card in my collection 🤭
Next week: Noel is arrested at the gate by the the Jo'burg rozzers and thrown in the local jail. That will be an interesting loo review!! 😁
Noel is an egoist. All the other pasengers of the LAM flight will have even more delay if he is away suddenly and the crew is trying to find him to continue the flight.
Oh dear they will take away his option of a taxi ride ro a 5 star hotel, and in the morning, a taxi to the airport to book an overpriced scheduled flight back to the UK, which is what happened when a Greyhound trip was cancelled.
There is no risk for this fraud.
right. i was wondering if it’s legal to escape from a flight because there’s a security measure and risk for that case
They’ll mistake him for the caretaker in his window seat and won’t even notice! It’s essentially a charter with 2 flight crews after all.
@@g_pazziniit is perfectly legal.
I'd done exactly the same thing in Guangzhou in China. I was flying with China Southern, and was supposed to connect through Guangzhou on a flight to Beijing, and then meet up with some friends and then we'd be catching an overland train to a 3rd city. Our flight was delayed due to weather and we missed the connection so they put us on buses and sent us to a hotel.
Next morning on route back to the airport, they were trying to shepherd everyone back through an express security section (to reboard the flight and continue to Beijing) and I said I just needed to use the bathroom, ducked away from the group, got down to the train station and hopped on an express bullet train to the next city to meet my friends and ended up getting there 2hrs early!
Fate has a funny way of working sometimes
You got -100500 social credit and you're not on a wanted list for the re-education camps :D
I always wondered if this works! My question is, do you forfeit your return flight if you skip your connection? Or was there no return flight?
@@punkstatic87 US-based airlines will cancel the entire reservation if you miss any leg generally by default. But how it works in the rest of the world? Anyone's guess!
@@punkstatic87 depends on the fare rules. It's different for every airline, and then also class-type of ticket. Generally it's a no-no and airlines will either contact you for a please explain or simply cancel the rest of the fair outright. During my layover I checked the fare rules and it said there was no charge or penalties for cancelling legs of the flight so I got out unscathed
@@therealauspol oh thats great luck! Thanks for the info! Very insightful :)
I used to station in Durban for work. I had a colleague back then whom was previously living in Maputo. He told me LAM stands for Lost Around Mozambique 🤣
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I traveled around South Africa and Mozambique about 10 years ago, heard the same acronym for LAM. We were told to avoid the airline.
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I used to station in Durban, looks like you forgot one word 🚉
😂 excellent 😊
This video shows why not checking in bags really does help!
Which works until you are in the last boarding group, the bins are full, and you are required to gate check to your final destination.
@@stephenj4937 only in cattle class
@@stephenj4937never had that happen, have you ever heard of skiplagged?
People usually pack spares in their hand luggage anyway? So yeah you might only have a day's worth of clothes but...?
"Arrive to survive " What's the worst that could happen anyway ? ...
Lived in Mozambique for 4 months, LAM was commonly known as 'Late And Maybe'. Good to see they are keeping up the reputation!
To be fair, fog with zero visibility is a valid reason for a diversion.
Fog is hardly their fault.
Or ' Lost around Mozambique' Actually used to fly them on domestic flights from Maputo to Beira and Quelimane. Never had any problems.
Similarly, Alitalia (when it existed) was "Always Late In Takeoff, Always Late In Arrival" !
TAP Portugal: Take Another Plane.
It's rather disrespectful for an airline to move a passenger from a window seat to designate it as a crew rest seat. The crew could have perfectly rested in the middle seat, rather than moving a paying passenger from their chosen seat to that middle seat.
It’s probably a privacy/legal thing, on top of that crew rest is probably the pilot(s). Do you want your pilot possibly not getting enough sleep or being disturbed? Just a thought
@@Chipndales You are correct
@@davidwarren202 look I really don’t want to be in a pressure vessel at 35000 feet going 500mph. The last thing I want is the guy in control not feeling 100% ready for that task. Too many crashes are pilot error already
I don't understand why the captain could not use the crew sleeping areas all these wide body planes have. Some have sleeping crew areas above the cabin space and others below the cabin space.
@@bigwangmark Maybe because the plane apparently had a double crew?
Love how you were shit talking the guy next to you while he was in the shot XD
Appreciate how kind and patient you are, even when people suck. Good work!
Me watching Noel eat Octopus on an airplane: “NOEL DID YOU NOT WATCH YOUR LAST EPISODE??”
tbh seafood in Portugal is supposed to be very good
@@subi924 It is - take it from me!
Lol I was thinking the same thing! 🦠🚽🐙
@@subi924airplane food is airplane food
Ha I thought the same thing. There is zero chance I'm ever eating very fishy smelling octo on a random charter airline.
I love how Noel says "that's okay" when it's clearly not.
He’s like the British Chap on the movie European Vacation!
It's called passive aggression.
Then at the end of the video he says things always workout for the best.
Most people are like that. Not everyone blows their top and goes crazy because when you do things just get even worse.
@@andrebaumbach9447 yeah if you are going to b1tch about something at least have the decency to be direct and upfront.
You were unbelievably lucky to escape and take the flight out
When you were offered “lamb” perhaps they meant “LAM” which specialises in Octopus as the main dish!
Erm two days ago when it just uploaded today
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I saw a documentary about the Tenerife airport disaster (1977) and it was a similar situation concerning an escape. A KLM 747 headed for nearby Gran Canaria was diverted, along with many other planes to Tenerife. A woman tour-guide who actually lived on Tenerife also did an "escape" from the rest of the passengers and left the airport, instead of getting back on that ill-fated plane which would soon smash into a Pan AM 747 with a 100% fatality rate. She is effectively the only survivor from the KLM plane. Of course both Tenerife and Gran Canaria belong to Spain, so there was no way they could have legally forced her back onto the plane but in any case I think when there are diversions many air restrictions can be waived, though you don´t want to take the risk that the staff will still insist you getting back on.
that woman came to my mind as well.
It's interesting that with international flights sometimes an "escape" is needed. Whereas for a domestic flight a traveler can simply choose not to travel. Realistically, unless immigration regulations/restrictions are involved, at traveler can simply refuse to board and just leave the airport. If immigration restrictions are involved, refusing to board would likely lead to forced boarding or deportation later on.
Since I was curious and looked it up myself: EuroAtlantic are a Portuguese charter airline who apparently specialise in wet-lease operations like this one.
The meal looks like Octopus!! When I was a flight attendant, catering did that to us too! They put the wrong labels, or they gave us the wrong carts. The manifest would tell us what the meal options are. But when we open the cart, surprise!!! Worse, during covid we were no longer allowed to remove the foil to check for mistakes.
Tha looked like Polvo à Lagareiro and it's delicious!
Regarding the inflight meal: You know what they say, octopus is the lamb of the sea... if it had eight arms, was a predator, a beak, and you've never seen a sheep.
The crew on Turkish Airlines tried to move us from our seats that we reserved and paid for as they wanted to sit there, I explained that we had paid for the seats, the stews weren't happy but fair play, their chief stew told them to sit elsewhere, it was just after Covid and they weren't doing any kind of service anyway
Middle seat guy just woke up and chose violence that day. WHO CHOOSES MIDDLE SEAT OVER WINDOW IN A 1-2-1 CONFIG? What a weirdo.
That airline appears to kick passengers from window seats so they can give them to crew instead. That is disgusting behavour of the airline. The customer should come first
He just wanted to sit next to Noel. 😳
@@QCCatPlanes Airlines are required (by EASA/FAA regulations) to rest crew on medium-/long-haul flights in lie-flat seats. And, to utilize the blackout curtains (also a requirement), a window seat is required because there's no way to partition the middle seat with a curtain.
I have done this before. I was the highest status with an airline and I didn't want to give up my seat because they have the status written by seat number and for me service was more important than a view i've already seen.
That guy probably also choses the urinal next to someone when there are many others available.
Noel makes a run for it. This could turn into a Netflix series.
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Yup; "Noel on the LAM".
The LAM crew are there for customer service, the Euro crew are there for flight safety. Ultimately the Euro crew would be in charge of the flight.
So the Africans took care of
the customer service?
Wrong dish, horrible octopus, disgusting breakfast, broken screen.
Makes perfect sense.
@@ParumPirum I mean, the plane (and IFE system) probably are from EuroAtlantic, so if it doesn't work the LAM crew can't do anything about it. As for the catering, it depends on who handled/provided that, FA's probably have no influence but the airline (LAM) is more directly responsible for this one. It seems strange to me that they bother to put their own crew on board, as I'd think it more efficient to let the wet lease crew handle that
@@ParumPirum No surprise is it? lol
Yes, it’s a wet lease. So theoretically you shouldn’t have to add more crew, but obviously they had to. The LAM staff would still have to help with evacuation etc.
@@ParumPirumIn cases like this with ACMI wet leases, it means EuroAtlantic is in charge of the aircraft and the safety procedures, therefore the screen/IFE issue is EuroAtlantic’s fault. Meanwhile service and catering is done from the client’s side, hence LAM, so the awful choices of food (especially for business class) is on LAM’s fault. Hope this helped!
We've all been there before: when the airline and the ground staff don't have their shit together, don't expect them to notice when one of the passengers goes missing!
I can only imagine the chaos and subsequent delay that would happen when they go to count passengers to reboard..
In developing countries they probably just shrug.
They probably didn't care at all.
@PoliticalDestruction so long as he gets his extra couple of hours in a lounge eh... in his words, "nevermind" to the rest of them
@@waynetompkins3006 This. They don't have the organization skills to bother.
The EuroAtlantic crew is onboard for safety purposes. Essentially they operate the doors in an emergency. The LAM crew is there for the inflight service. That's often how these arrangements work.
The suspense was killing me. So glad you made it to your next pit-stop. Love your sense of humor, despite tricky situations.
Noel making it clear he’s not in to the swinging scene 🍍🍍😂😂
I bet there's a good story about how he found out what the pineapple means 🤣
Wow I never made that connection lol. I always thought he was referring to the popular myth that Pineapple makes a certain stuff taste better hahaha.
Neither is he in the tentacle pr0nz business it seems.
@@yabattlerThere was an article on the BBC news website a few weeks ago, so it's probably quite a dull story...
Awesome case of unintentional reverse skiplag. Not going to lie, I watched the video to the end to see if you got tackled by security after saying things work out in the end... ;)
I was expecting something like that. He is now missing in action with 2 countries looking for him😅😅😅
Just wanted to say that I love how your always able to silo your opinions about the different aspects of the airlines you review and not let your disappointment in one area carry over into other areas in a bias way. I feel like a-lot of travel content creators don’t do that. They have a bad check in experience for example and you can just tell they are carrying that negative attitude throughout the rest of the video. 🤦♂️
Sorry I'm allowed only one upvote. That sort of petulant behavior is a major problem in 21st Century.
That's human nature, to override it is a real skill which Noel manages to navigate. He's mentally tough.
When I worked at a major airline, the crew weren't assigned to a seat that was assigned to a fare paying passenger. One thing that I enjoy about what you do, you will adventure into interesting places that are not the common places people travel to.
That and I can certainly say that as someone who flies every single day, I could care less about a window seat.
When a 767 flies international, the crew gets a seat in the cabin because 767 does not have crew rest bunks. Remember he stated originally he was supposed to be on a 777 and it was downgraded to a 767. However his seat was not changed at time of check in. Not until he got to the gate. I worked for a major airline at the ticket counter and gates for 9 years and now a flight crew for 10 years.
Why does the crew need a window seat when they ought to sleep anyway? 🧐
@@verabolton They don't have to sleep, merely rest, and giving them a window seat means they're less likely to be disturbed by a passenger net to them.
@@ArthurTanner-d7s Right. And they didn't know they'll need a crew before selling the tickets 🤦♀
McDonalds lounge sounds luxurious
Better food than 90% of post-pandemic biz lounges with generic pantry trash.
Your food items even come individually wrapped!
@@Muzakman37 😂🤣😂
I bet each nugget has its own flag
First all, you are always so gracious to airline personnel. Considering the seat change, inop IFE and the unwanted octopus, you continue to smile and carry on with good cheer! As a retired 33 year airline crew member, you are too good to be true! Now as for entering the Republic of South Africa without going through customs/Immigration and disappearing from your Maputo flight, I will be anxious to see if that set off any alarms. I hope all went well! I'll be at the edge of my lie flat seat until the next episode!!
I had my boarding pass already for the next (international) flight so I didn’t need to enter SA, I stayed airside. Also they ended up canceling the flight entirely and putting other passengers on another airline to Maputo so they weren’t looking for me
@@noelphilips Oh thank goodness! I'd hate to see some fine or country ban! You really are terrific!
Virtually everything is crap on the flight.
Noel: But hey, anyway...
Noel, you are too kind.
He's just very British :D.
It's called sarcasm.
@@TheLibermania No, no it's not in this case.
It made for a more unusual story to share on UA-cam, so it's probably a net win for him in terms of viewership and corresponding revenue. I have no clue why UA-cam recommended this videos to me but here I am.
@@trebilicious well if you commenting, you will get even more videos😅
My face when I saw a Swedish security guard on the thumbnail lol
So glad that worked in your favor! Great video Noel!
that "lamb" (octopus) you ate is an popular portuguese dish known as "polvo à lagareiro" -- personally, one of my favorite portuguese dishes. being served something like that on a plane blows my mind... looks much better than the typical microwaved lean cuisine prision meal.
watching your videos has made me respect airplanes in general way more. its insane how in depth some of them get.
You’re a brave man, Noel Philips! When I was flying globally for work I always wanted all the Is dotted and Ts crossed before setting out. This trip in particular featured some elements that would have been my worst nightmare. Seat change, bad food, diverted etc. Ugh! Love your vlogs! 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow! Good thing you only had carryon luggage. Having checked luggage would have seriously complicated you escape maneuver. Glad it worked out....
If there was a checked bag, and the bag's owner did not re-board, would the airline be required to remove the checked bag from the airplane, because "unaccompanied" luggage (a bomb?) is prohibited from being carried? Also, if there was a checked-bag that was tagged to Noel's final destination (Jo'burg ?), the airline's responsibility is to carry it there. Granted, it may take a week for the airline to reroute it to Jo'burg, and to notify Noel of its final location. Noel did say that he had another flight (on another airline?) that day. Noel may have needed to eventually physically return to Jo'burg to claim his bag. So, not having any checked bags was the key to this "escape".
I had a very similar situation happen to me a while back. Was scheduled to fly from St Louis to Orlando but a snow storm rolled into St Louis and grounded nearly all outbound flights, including mine. I was stuck in the airport until I saw a flight to Fort Myers was scheduled to leave. I needed to be back in Florida asap, so I switched from Orlando to the Fort Myers flight. We took off out of St Louis and then after a few hours they announced that they would need to make an early landing due to the “Lavatory being frozen.” And guess where we had to land, Orlando. 😂
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Woohoo 🙌 Noel, it’s always exciting to see what’s going to happen to you each episode. I think that flights is definite for locals, the food being the biggest give away. I loves that you could escape and not have to go re do the flight. ❤❤❤
I fly every year to Mozambique from Portugal and when I do, it's always with Turkish Airlines. I don't mind the time it takes to get to Mozambique compared with TAP/LAM. The price is cheaper and the service is far better than the other two companies.
But if something goes wrong with Turkish, good luck! (Cancelled flight, delayed flight, missed connection, lost baggage, change of aircraft type, delayed baggage, EU261 claim etc etc with Turkish means BIG PROBLEM) I know, I tried them once and NEVER AGAIN!!! Their cabin crews usually work hard but if something goes wrong, they are a mess!!
Não acredito que fique mais barato fazer escala em Istambul do que ir diretamente de Lisboa para Maputo com a TAP.
‘Come and fly with us!’ Noel: 🏃🏃🏃
😂😂😂
When Noel was taking off, how many became transfixed on the swirly thing in the engine than watching the scenery go by...? 👀
Me! It can be a sign of autism. I have Asperger's....a mild form of autism, and one of the signs is a tendency to fixate on small moving details rather than the overall scene. I do this all the time.
What IS the swirly thing in the engine? I assume it's to know if the.... Rotor is going or not?
@@Roadent1241 Alerting ground crew of the running engine and to stay well clear. It's basically to visualize the spinning turbine in a very noisy environment.
@@BadDriversOfNapa Can confirm!
Spinning yo yo was actually a WW 2 German invention. Seen on many WW 2 film footage of Luftwaffe fighters, mostly ME 109 and Focke Wolf.
Looks like Noel is dumping last week's Air India Chicken Tikka in the loo review. 😅
That spicy turd
This is my favourite channel out of all the others. It's so relaxing and entertaining and humourus and educating all in one. Thanks Noel 👍
Glad you enjoy it!
Yeah it's funny. Noel isn't the type of person I'm usually drawn to but it just feels like comfort food to me. Noel is also real and I guess the fact that even when he is flying "fancy class" he doesn't play it up and is the same person he always is. This, Mentour Pilot and the Why Files are my current YT comfort food. The news channels have been far too depressing lately.
I can’t wait to hear how the rest of your trip goes. You seem to have “escaped”, so far… My best wishes to you & your family! Happy travels!!! Thank you for all you do-
My flight to the United States Virgin Islands was diverted to Puerto Rico because of very bad weather. After spending two nights in PR, I was sent a notice that I had been rebooked to the British Virgin Islands. It took two hours of them saying “we are allowed to rebook you anywhere within 40 miles of your original destination” and me saying “not if it’s another whole country, and an island - am I supposed to swim home if I ever get out of immigration jail?” before they re-rebooked me to the USVI, the next day.
no idea how it took me until Noel pointed it out in the Loo for me to realise that he had been wearing a shirt around the airport and plane with a Loo on it the whole time 🤣 what a legend
Rule 16. Better to seek forgivness than ask permission. Gratz on your escape.
Pineapples are stereotypically a symbol of hospitality.
They’re also a symbol of Jensen Beach, Florida, which used to grow most pineapples for the Eastern Seaboard of the United States. Then a series of freezes and other disasters stopped that.
They're just a food. What's weird about them?
@@Roadent1241 Not weird, but a symbol for some recreational activity without clothes.
@@_Jester_ I'd call that weird still. Unless it involves water or changing clothes you do 98% things with clothes on.
Google "pineapple swingers" and you'll learn a much different use of it as a symbol!
Lots of airports don’t have border force before getting to the departure hall (they would only have it before going to baggage claim). Also, a lot of airports disembark directly into the departure hall (Edinburgh, UK and Changi, Singapore spring to mind). So he may not have needed to clear security or immigration
Yes, this seems to be a relatively modern thing, especially with big, hub-type airports such as Singapore and KL. But UK? Really? I fly fairly frequently and I am sure that LHR does not have mingling of arrival and departure. One of the extremely annoying consequences of having a mingling of arriving passengers and departing passengers is the need for a double security check. So you have to go though security at the entrance to airside and you have to do it all over again at the general departure gate area. Really, really annoying. Or maybe that is just me. 😐
But the main issue is whether he was flying internationally or not. If it was a domestic SA flight, then he would have needed to go through immigration first. If it is international then yes possibly he can claim he was transiting but at the very least there would have to be a security check.
@@thisismonitor4099There might be security at the gate if you are on a connecting flight? Or it might be considered safe since you have been airside the entire time.
He did mention in the video he was going to another country so I assume that means it was international.
@@maijo2597 Can't speak for Heathrow, in 2016 I flew STL-BHX via IAD and CPH, at CPH I went straight to the BHX flight with no check, at BHX we went thru the EU arrivals for customs even though I originated in the US which seemed a bit odd to me
@@007knick
yip, so he would only go through x ray and metal detector . and all they check is boarding pass and passport correspond...not immigration...he never entered SA...
same as flying via Dubai, which is like a Fedex for people, they just offload the planes, chuck the people into the mall, resort them and reload them... security checks, but no immigraotion/customs. you thus never enter Dubai.. just check names and boarding passes.
Johannesburg is the hub for Southern Africa, so plenty people transit to Botswana, Namibia, Zim and Moz through it without actually entering SA... you stay airside..Same for most Hub airports...Only Heathrow caused an issue with terminal 5 , which is seperate, and requires immigration and transit visas. Mate of mine was detained at heathrow for 24 hrs cos his travel agent had booked a ticket via Heathrow without informing him ( or did not know the terminal 5 situation) of need for transit visa (South Africans require visas for UK)
It is only when you change to a local flight that you exit customs/immigration and they just want to know that your passport and visa are in order...the assumption being that if you are airside that you came on a plane from somewhere..so immigration does in any country does not check your boarding pass...not their job.
only possible to do what he did without a checked bag. Leaving a plane with a checked bag onboard SHOULD cause alarm bells. I once spent 3 hrs on the tarmac at Charles de Gaulle due to a miscount of the heads that ended in all bags being offloaded onto the tarmac and each of us having to put our bag onto the conveyor back into the plane. When no bags were left over , they recounted and found the error... no apology!
Skiplagging is a thing , especially in USA, but on their internal flights..
I live in CapeTown and it is usually cheaper to fly to Venice in Italy via Dubai than it is to buy a ticket to Dubai...on the same plane...Vagaries of airline pricing.. I however would not try this stunt with the Dubai authorities 🤣and have thus been in Dubai on numerous occasions, but never entered it.
That was very lucky Noel
Hello Noel
The reason there was 2 set of crew is pretty simple LAM was there as service crew or representative and Eurotlantic was there for safety reason means they hold CCA ( Cabin crew attestation) who allowed them to operate on an European registered aircraft. It’s common in ACMI operation. Safe flights
TL;DR version: the African crew was too inexperienced and incompetent to be trusted by themselves.
@@scottevans2685That’s not what was said at all. It’s a EuroAtlantic aircraft charted by Lam, but not reconfigured to a Mozambique registration.
It’s Portuguese registered so a Portuguese crew have to be onboard for ensuring Portuguese safety standards are being met. Lam crew are there to ensure their service is being done per their standards.
If anything, the TL;DR is: Lam needs to buy more planes.
@@scottevans2685Read again what was said dimwit! You seem you could be an incompetent cabin crew if you were one!
The ending is hilarious, I can imagine the crew calling for you later and wondering why the passenger list is missing a person
I had my boarding pass already for the next (international) flight so I didn’t need to enter SA, I stayed airside. Also they ended up canceling the flight entirely and putting other passengers on another airline to Maputo so they weren’t looking for me
I really like you positivity about the situation. Others would have complained about everything and you were like: "Things always happen for a reason"
I would have complained about the octopus.
@@Deborah-so8mv it seems to be additional to the lamb. If you notice, there is a bone on the plate as well.
I would never eat anything with tentacles on an airplane
If it's moving, you know it's fresh.
I would never eat anything with tentacles anywhere.
But would you eat it on a boat??
@@davidtuer5825 maybe some fried calamari
@@ArthurTanner-d7s Your loss. Octopus and squid are amazing. If you can justify eating fish there's zero difference except your preconceived prejudice and fear.
Once I was delayed and missed a connection at Dulles... offered the next flight out in the morning, I declined and asked for the *last* flight out... then I spent the day at Udvar-Hazy, the premier airplane/space museum in the world! Sometimes things *do* work out, don't they?
Thanks for adventure. Noel once again showing us what business travelers go through.
Holy shit the great escape! Once again, you take these flights so we don't have to. Bloody champion!
EuroAtlantic Airways - Transportes Aéreos S.A., is a Portuguese Charter ACMI airline specialized in leasing and air charter
amazing bashing the guy in the seat next to you with him right there listening haha so much more brave than me. good on ya
That guy didn't hear a thing due to high noise level. Noel showed us once how silently he speaks IRL when discussing what mic he uses.
“Be kind to one another “ …hang on didn’t you just slag off that other passenger !😂
I almost spat my drink out when that sheep popped up on the screen to baaaa at us. Thanks, Noel, HAHA.
Nice getaway, though. Sometimes things do just work out like that :)
Noel stars in his own version of “The Great Escape!” 🗝️ ✈️
You’re so awesome Noel! Amazing video.
Thanks so much!
Does that mean a single Point A to Point B flight on this airline is called a “Leg of LAM”?
If you’re on the flight and the Aircon is broken so you’re broiling in the heat, does that make it a “Roast Leg of LAM”?
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*You gotta love it, when a plan comes together!*
Aaaah wonderful memories of the 1980s TV series, The A-Team!!! I Love It When a Plan Comes Together 😁
The more I watch your videos Noel, Josh's and a few others, the more I feel that almost invariably buying Business Class is a waste of money. How many videos have I seen now where the food is awful, the seat not perfect, the entertainment not working, the crew mediocre, where lounge access or fast track security is not part of the package! You simply do not get what you have paid for!
Nowadays you fly business class to have half a chance at sleeping enough to power through the day and avoid bad jet lag. That's pretty much all to be honest.
Yet business class fares are reaching outrageous levels.
There are better airlines with better business class, but after the pandemic service took a dive and prices doubled. That's the problem.
business is only worth the price in a handful of airlines.
Main reason for flying business class is flexibility. Meeting with someone has been canceled? You can fly home early, or if things take longer than planned you can fly later. These tickets are easy to change and rebook and there's usually seats available in biz class on flights.
Business or Premium Economy = better/comfier seat....
7:40 That's what airlines are doing now, they are splitting up tickets that booked together to different seats, then they make you pay extra to select seats together. I flew Korean Air earlier this year with my mother who is handicapped, they split our seats and the flight crew refused to let us seat together even though the seat next to my mom's seat was empty. If you want to seat together, never buy two tickets in the same reservation, just book two tickets separately then request a specific seat number and see if you get lucky instead.
Money making racket.
If you ask they are supposed to say no, but if you just move into the seat after takeoff they will not be bothered
@@ColinCarFan cool, I'll try that next time.
The McDonalds Lounge sounds amazing!!
I always apreaciate The subtle moment's of Noels wisecracks gets me chuckling belly laughing everytime. His animated practicality makes you feel like your there in Travel....
i hoped for a continuation on the story of "Noël's sausage" in Africa
noel was so scared but he offerd himself to do it respect💗
That was quite an escape!! Loved the video as always and looking forward to next week’s adventure.😁
Euroatlantic is also used time to time by Air France and in such case, they inform in advance. So no pre information about this change? You have the choice to opt out and ask for a refund.
They TOOK your preassigned window seat for a CREW member? That is NUTS! Customers AFTER employees….😮
@@pabrennan6877 It does sound like the flight was originally scheduled on a 777, which does have dedicated crew rest areas, then last minute switched to this 767. I believe it's a kind of long flight for a 767 too.
Also why do crew members, whom are supposed to be sleeping, need a window?! Why couldn't they use the less-coveted middle seats for the crew and the passengers that booked a window could keep it. It doesn't make sense.
I disagree because you can’t get where you want to go without the crew
@@Borgscan I think it’s for the privacy curtain so crew isn’t bothered during their mandated rest period
@@freeportkid hey no need for any crew without customers
As a South African this makes me a bit worried.
The Euroatlantic crew is the flying crew that are type-rated and employed by the AOC holder. The LAM crew is there to do service only and are not type-rated on the aircraft and are not allowedrun the aircraft systems. You shuold know this Noel...
And I'm not only talking cockpit crew here.
For someone who travels so much he doesn't seem to know a lot about travelling and planning but am not sure what he did if it is true and that's a big IF not returning to the plane can cause many issues that's why I think it's BS
I am a cargo airline pilot. It makes zero sense to me to carry non type rated LAM pilots on this flight so I would assume all the pilots are from Euro Atlantic . Training( every 6 months we have retraining)and paying pilots is a very expensive affair and I can guarantee you no airline would train and pay pilots just to offer service or not operate the aircraft. As for cabin crew I would assume the LAM crew are also issued a validation/ conversion to EASA to operate the Euroatlantic aircraft. It is much easier to convert Cabin crew as for pilots it is much harder and expensive. Legally things like evacuation require type rated crew at the mandatory exits so it does not make sense to have LAM cabin crew who can not handle their station during an evacuation.
the way you were saying at the end how things work out for the best, i was expecting someone to place their hand on your shoulder and be like "you're nicked, mate" 😂😂
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Euro Atlantic is a Portuguese wet-lease airline, and while it leases planes and crew to airlines all over the world, its focus is on the former Portuguese colonies in Africa. It operates flights for the national airlines of São Tomé and Príncipe, Angola, and Mozambique, some of which are or have been banned from EU airspace with their own planes or might not have the financial means to afford a long-haul jet (though TAAG Angola Airlines do fly their own 777-300ERs to Lisbon as well, yet it wet-leases Euro Atlantic's planes for some flights).
And Noel, if you love Lisbon and "custard tarts" so much, it's time you learned their proper name, it isn't so hard, and they might not understand you if you ask for a "custard tart". Singular form: *"pastel de nata"* (in the approximate local pronunciation, "pash-TELL-DNAH-tah", like the Dubai-based catering company). Plural form: *"pastéis de nata"* ("pash-TAYESH-DNAH-tah"). The name means literally "cream pastry".
"Pastel de nata" is a knock-off. The originals are "Pastel de Belém", opa!
@@sachaquadrelli4674, not exactly true. The little tart is called "pastel de nata". But there is a specific bakery in the Lisbon district of Belém that makes particularly good and renowned ones, and THOSE are "pastéis de Belém". Elsewhere they are just "pastéis de nata".
They'll probably understand if you ask for a custard tart (especially at an international airport), it's not the end of the world
Last flight I took was from Reykjavik to Seattle. I had paid extra to have a seat in the front just behind the barrier between business and coach, as I wanted the extra leg room. Lady across the aisle asked if she could switch with me. Turns out the gentleman who had the window seat (2-4-2 configuration), next to me was her newlywed husband, and they wanted to sit together.
How could I refuse?
”It is almost near a window” lmao
since its a chartered aircraft the LAM cabin crew probably aren't rated on the 767, so there's a chance the LAM crew are their to provide the service to passengers and the Euro Atlantic crew are there to make it legal to operate, flight crew and cabin crew.
The McDonald's lounge 😂
Yup, I see LAM goes extra posh.
Happy holidays Noel thank you
So this flight was really Olivais to Kempton Park, if you look at where both airports actually are (physical addresses)
Jan Smuts airport.
Most excited I've been yet watching one of your vids, thanks for sharing! Glad you escaped that mess 😂😂
25:18 golden words ❤
Noel you are brave man traveling with LAM, even though Mozambique has some of the best beaches in the world. And the people of Mozambique are friendly. Lived there for 14 years
Didn't know lambs looked like that in Mozambique
Yes, that's what he said. Was it really necessary to repeat it?
Can you imagine what chicken looks like or beef? Probably something just as fishy……
If that is lamb what does the octopus look like? 😄
One Sunday we boarded a train for Luton to go skiing, and it broke down near Hitchin. After an hour of silence the guard told us we could get off.. in a cutting, and we clamboured up the steep side to hail a taxi. We arrived well after closing of check in but got the chatty girls on side. They eventually told us to walk fast round the back door and run out over the apron, where the plane revving up, was already trundling over the taxi way and came to a stop for us.
Two blokes re-pushed some steps over and somehow the luggage door was opened and we threw up the skis and bags up inside the aircraft, missing once until we did it together. Then we ran round to the steps and we climbed up and the plane set off again.
Very sneaky. Did you need to go through border control at all, or since you ended up air-side, was there no checks.
Did you have the boarding pass for your flight out of Joburg?
@@BatakGalak He can get the boarding pass online if he wants
@@BatakGalakit was printed off in Lisbon as he got his Maputo pass and Joburg pass!
Noel was already in the arrival terminal and by taking the transit lane, he ended up at the security check where they only require an onward ticket out of South Africa, and then stamp the passport with a " transit stamp", then off to the boarding gates for his next flight.
I honestly see this as a success. If anything this is first class service above and beyond five stars
Did you not have to clear customs/immigration in Johannesburg?
Not if he was airside
He wouldn't have to because he was jumping on another international flight. He would just remain in transit.
Youre American arent you🤔.
I'm not one to make a huge fuss but receiving octopus in place of lamb could be serious for some being an allergy ( even if it was obvious)
I'm sure epi-pens are accessible from the aircraft's first aid kit but it could be assessed that the person was instead choking and medical help is not exactly a phone call away 40 thousand feet in the air.
I don't think there's such a thing as an octopus allergy. They are not shellfish.
Noel The fugitive lol 👍😂.
Speaking of Swifty’s . QANTAS was under pressure to reduce flights from Sydney to Melbourne (which is only about a 70 min flight) so they used an A380 to fly Swifty’s to Melbourne for the concert.
1:55 WINDOWS 7 EMBEDDED STANDARD MENTIONED
I work for an electronics company. We still run Windows 7 on test equipment and plus Windows 98 on our incircuit system. These testsystem will not run Windows 10 or Windows 11 not compatible.
I run or build older computers for the older testsystems or equipment.
@@scottmuckleston3308 Me too! Been at Arrow Electronics since 2009
14:00 this is probably because the flight crew of LAM is not certified in emergency protocol such as ETOPS or other long haul related safety certifications. This is why they have to lease out Euro Atlantic pilots and crew to meet the ICAO requirements for crew readiness. LAM isn’t certified to run this route on their own.
Well look at you! No "Hot Fuzz" chassing you down lol
What happens when it's time for the plane to depart for Maputo?
They had 220 get off in JNB, only 219 (or fewer?) returning. Surely that causes additional delay, as they then have to make sure you're not just lost, and that there is no checked luggage to find and remove? (But I would have legged it too.)
I had my boarding pass already for the next (international) flight so I didn’t need to enter SA, I stayed airside. Also they ended up canceling the flight entirely and putting other passengers on another airline to Maputo so they weren’t looking for me