Well Gargoyles remain me of Sailor Moon Crystal Because Goliath and his Clan teams remain me of Sailor Moon and her guardian teams and Demona kinda remain me of Queen Beyrl and more
Gargoyles was one of those major elements of my childhood. I was born in December 1993, so the show was basically just reruns on Toon Disney in the early 2000s, but I loved most if not every single episode. Season 3 wasn't that great, but I'm going to try and get my hands on the whole series anyway. If this show isn't on Disney+ I'm starting a petition.
21:39 I disagree, I thought Thailog was a pretty interesting villain. His main goal wasn't just "to get rich," but to prove his superiority to his three 'fathers.' The reason he was so obsessed with wealth, wasn't simply due to generic moustache-twirling greed, but because he wanted to surpass Xanatos in monetary power (in the same vein as how he tried to surpass Sevarius by creating the clone clan in 'The Reckoning,' and how he tried to best Goliath by hooking up with his former mate Demona...and then creating an implied sex slave by cloning the G man's two major love interests...nasty stuff!). The dude is pretty much a walking Oedepus Complex, thanks mostly to the mistreatment he received from his 'fathers' (Xanatos and Sevarius pretty much treated him like shit from day one, and Goliath dismissed him as "an abomination" upon seeing him for the first time...true he regretted it almost immediately afterwards, but like nearly every other villain on the show, Thailog isn't one to forgive or forget). So yeah, Thailog is plenty of things, but never dull.
@@BullSession Thanks! Although to be honest, all that maniacal laughter just further endeared me to the character XD My only real problem with Thailog was that he only had three episodes to establish his character, two of which he wasn't even the main focus of. Which is perhaps one of the biggest reasons why it sucks that season three turned out the way it did; the original plan was for Thailog to take Xanatos' place as the main antagonist, and the season would have further built upon his character and goals. Kind of like how season two built upon Demona from what little we got of her backstory in season one. But alas, we got stuck with The Goliath Chronicles, which killed Thailog and the other clones off in one episode like it was nothing...I fucking hate studio meddling...
Thailog was always a really interesting and engaging character for me. Even if he wasn't in more than a few episodes, his character development was top notch.
@@alexbenjaminlubbers Oh totally! In the handful of episodes he appeared in, Thailog certainly made a strong impression. It's just a shame he didn't get more episodes to himself.
@@CountCallous I totally agree. I watched Gargoyles as a kid in the early 2000s as reruns. Had no idea that Season 2 was 52 episodes. We basically got 4 seasons in 1. I think Thailog and Demona are tied for best gargoyle villain while Xanatos and Macbeth are best human villains. Jackal and Hyena are just over the top, it's so good to be bad villains.
@@BullSession Oberon was voiced by Terrence Stamp, whose best known for playing General Zod in the original 70s Superman flicks. Fitting he was chosen to play another arrogant jerk with a God complex. :P
According to Weisman, despite their mutual hatred, Demona is "a little bit in love with him", even though she would likely never admit it to anyone, including herself.
@@Scotttjt that's actually interesting and thinking about it makes sense why she has such hate for him because a person she possibly has feelings for she thought would betray her
Demona is one of the best Disney villains, just like real main character! She is very complicated, poor and evil. I like her stories, before she turned into bad, she really loves Goliath and her clan, but she used the worst way to “help” them. Besides, her relationships with Goliath, Macbeth and Angela are very interesting to me, they makes her very complicated.
The "Gargoyles" retrospective lay dormant by the human they were sworn to protect, frozen in stone by a magic spell for several months. Now we are in August, the spell is broken, the retrospective lives again! Now with that cheap joke out of the way, Season 2 was awesome. I think my favorite episodes of the World Tour arc were the ones with other gargoyles, and the post-Avalon set with the dystopian future and Goliath's crew finally returning to Manhattan. Plus, it's amazing how they incorporated many Shakespearian stories and mythologies into this show and managed to make them work in this show's universe. Now I can't wait to see what you have to say about Season 3, which yeah, I didn't care for either.
I like the moment that Young Demona refused to harm Goliath and fighting to Future Demona. Though she get crazy and creepy, she still has maternal love after knowing Angela is her daughter. In fact, she knows her faults in her deep down, but she unwilling to admit it.
One of the great what if's of television history: I would have loved to see all those spin off shows come to life and truly compete with DC. What would the world of entertainment look like if this had happened in the 90s?
Fun fact: I am a literal jalapeño. See, those chiles are called after my home city, which is the capital of the Mexican state of Veracruz: Xalapa. "X" is pronounced as "J" due to the indigenous náhuatl language, tho, which was spoke by the then all migthy aztec empire, which covered almost half of México at its peak. Funnily enough the other bigger empire of mesoamericans were the mayans, who were part of the World Tour Arc, so it kinda is a Yin Yang circle in my eyes.
Hey there my Jalapeña friend! The use of the word jalapeña in the show was done on a dare to Greg Wiseman. Kieth David told a story about a female blues singer who would say Jalapeña! Instead of Hallelujah! And when the writing team heard the story they dared Greg and then he put it in the show...a bunch! They hated by the end. You can check out other cool Gargoyles factoids here: s8.org/gargoyles/archives/
Anyone else feel compelled to take to the streets at night to battle evildoers when this theme song plays? I weep for the proposed then indefinitely postponed reboot that was pitched and headed up by Jordan Peele. I'm confident that it would have been as excellent as this show as I imagine that like us, he was a fan growing up. You covered every topic or tidbit I was excited for, and I couldn't agree more, Ser. Spread the love.
This is 1 cartoon that definitely needs to be brought back on something like Netflix. But since it's a Disney property I guess it'll have to be on their streaming service> Hopefully it won't get ruined like ABC did w/ season 3. 🤷♂️
Yesssss once again we rise from our roust and take to the sky. It both amazes and saddens me to this day there has never being a continuation or reboot of this series.
Love that you picked Future Tense for your #1. It's so good, and chilled me to my core as a kid. I've rewatched it as an adult and it still is chilling to me, and I'm AMAZED by just how much story they were able to put into a 22minute episode of television. It's astonishing how much is there, really. I'd say City of Stone is my favorite, though, but it's impossible to single out any of those episodes; they all need each other to work. That multi-parter is some of the best-written content I've ever experienced, and something about it all just being one cog in a plot by the Weird Sisters to get soldiers for the Archmage has always been stupefying to me in its sheer scale.
Goliath: Youre thirst for vengeance has only created more sorrow. End this Cycle Demona, give us the Code. Demona: The Access Code is.. Alone Bam, right in the feels.
The 2nd season of Gargoyles is whyit became my favourite show. Wish Disney would bring it back .. I'd be down for it. They did a good job with remaking Duck Tales so I'd hope it turns out just as good as the OG Gargoyles
I can't believe I just watched a 40 minute video and it went by so fast. I was actually surprised when it ended, thought there was gonna be more. And I usually don't like UA-cam videos longer than 15-20 mins. Just discovered your channel and Im loving the content so far. Also the humor you throw in is just hilarious, makes me laugh out loud. Great channel dude! Keep it up!
How on earth did i forget the episode with the haunted battle axe wielding werewolf. I remember Wolf becoming his hybrid form, but not the whole haunted axe thing.
From the way I see it, Macbeth never did anything wrong. He’s arguably the most tragic victim in the whole show. He never harmed Duncan until he found out that Duncan ordered his father’s death and wanted him dead too. He was perfectly justified in executing Duncan for that, and he showed honor and mercy to Duncan’s son. He was an amazing king and leader, and Demona betrayed him at the slightest vocal consideration that he may betray her, which he wasn’t really considering on doing. He was taken down because of Demona acting against him before confronting him. And then he leaves everything he ever loved to preserve it. He is forced to hide away from his family and kingdom so they can continue to thrive. He only kidnapped Goliath and the others because he believed they were allies with Demona and probably thought they could lead him to her. He turned out to be wrong, but he had plenty reason to believe he was right (Although I guess I should rewatch that episode to be sure). Macbeth has been cursed to live for 1000 years. All he wants is to pass away from life like everyone living creature is destined to do. He doesn’t want to kill Demona in revenge. He just wants to finally rest in peace, and there’s no sin in taking her down with him.
I'm so grateful "Future Tense" was one episode and only a possible future. I read a fanfic that saw it play out as a season-long story with a few choice edits on the authors part (eg. Lex was coersed into betraying the clan). It was heartbreaking and completely devastated me as a teenager to the point where I almost grieved for the characters and I'd really wanted a happy ending for all of them. That's my embarrassing tale.
Yeah ☺ Two beautiful & intelligent women of the law becoming romantically involved with unconventionally attractive individuals that were both sensitive & tough
a gargoyles video? in ...2019...? Is this what happiness feels like ( TT u TT )? Also coldstone, coldfire and coldsteel's real names and their relationship is a reference to the Shakespearean play "the tragedy of Othello, the moor of venice"; othello (coldstone), desdemona (coldfire) and iago (coldsteel)
God i loved this series. Too many great episodes to count. Great but i’m sure daunting review. I didnt get all of the references when it first aired but thanks to syndication on toon disney (RIP) i was able to enjoy it more when i was in high school and had more exposure to shakespeare. I really appreciated the world tour and all the mythologies they let shine. When they switched networks and timeslots, i knew that was the death knell for the series. Still watched but it was bad.
I wish they would make more back in '96. I do not want them to make more now. Even with Greg at the helm, he's lost his marbles.. I don't want another Young Justice.
Great retrospect, dude! Season two of Gargoyles might just be some of the best television I've ever seen, animation or otherwise. And I don't make such praise lightly.
in the end everything that happened to Demona was her fault, jumping to conclusions without talking things out, the destruction of her clan not once but twice. I understand why she hates us but thats her fault not ours but she hates Elisa cause she's Goliath love interest now and a better woman then she is or ever was. I really liked Puck he was my fav character from the fairy realm being a trickster just like the MCU's Loki only not out to destroy the world
the theme makes me want to weep my favorite show growing up. I was legit disappointed that i wasn't born a gargoyle LOL. I used to record eps and rewatch them :)
One rather obscure animated show from the 90s I've never seen mentioned by any UA-cam reviewer was *"The Legend of Calamity Jane."* It was briefly on the the WB network (not sure if it was part of the "Kids WB" lineup) and basically a western made to look like a Spaghetti Western with a female hero as the star. It was really a mixed bag in my opinion but still noteworthy for being an original work and having it's own unique style.
Demona can be an alternative protagonist, she is a very complicated character, and her experience is very brilliant. After the tragedy of the castle, She lost everything, hatred and despair gradually eroded her mind, and The Angels of The Night have become "Demona". I like the scene in S02E08 Vows, Young Demona loved Goliath very much 1000 years ago, she refused to betray him and saying she didn't want to be Future Demona.
As many times you used Back to the Future 2 as an example of time paradox, It was also a wasted opportunity to mention Detective Bluestone is the same actor as Biff.
I was worried about you Paul! Had not seen anything on UA-cam or even Twitter in a while. With this video being 40 minutes long and Season 2 being 52 episodes I can see why you've been absent. Welcome back ♥️ I really need to go pick up the Gargoyle DVDs and rewatch all of these. There is so much I don't remember ever seeing! As always I love your retrospective and will be sharing it with friends!
Yea, this one was a doozy! Haven't really had time for any other videos besides weekly movie reviews, and even that I skipped last week to try and get this out for Friday (which still didn't happen). I hope it was worth it, though. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Apparently Atlantis:The Lost Empire would have been canon in the Gargoyle Universe as well..if they hadn't cancelled all of the spin-offs. So many lost opportunities..
I have to admit, I kind of hate how the show written Demona. Granted, if a reboot was ever done, I still want Demona to be the tragic antagonist, but not so much a villain. While overboard, she still had a point and drove home that Gargoyles purpose didn’t have to mean to serve humans, especially humans who treated them less than second class citizens. Just replace Gargoyles with any marginalized group of people. If a reboot is ever done, I would love to see her points made clear and have Goliath’s own beliefs about what makes a Gargoyle and that they’re purpose does not have to be serving or protecting humans, if at all. Demona can still be the “bad guy” and still be single minded over her hate of humans, but it could be because she can’t get over the oppression she had to suffer under them.
Love the videos, and, I know it's a little out of your wheelhouse, could you touch on the canon comic continuation/alternate season 3 of gargoyles. They have great stories and got a rough treatment.
Hoooo boy. Idk if I'd want to subject my rose tinted nostalgia goggles to rewatching Street Sharks. I absolutely LOVED that show back when I was like, 3 or 4. Perhaps someday!
@@BullSession I feel that, if Mattel ever do decide to resurrect Street Sharks, they should take it in a darker, grittier direction. After all, what happened to the Bolton brothers (painful, unnatural transformations into monstrous looking creatures followed by their father's corrupt ex-partner framing them thus turning most of their hometown against them) certainly lends itself to more mature storytelling (old show ATTEMPTED it, but things got too narmtacular). Also, really lean hard into the body horror aspect inherent to the characters. Get Cronenberg up in this joint.
The hunters are not descendants of the original hunter, GilleCoem Gaim. They are descendants of Duncan and his son Canmore, which is why they call the Hunters are part of clan Canmore.
11:30 wait is it actually said to be Belle’s dress because that expands your King Arthur theory considerably. In Kingdom Hearts Merlin a recurring supporting character and Belle makes a few appernces in the series. The fact this girl has the dress of someone from another world. Given that she didn’t get back to New York with a corridor of darkness we can rule that possibility out. However this means she’s possibly met a keyblade wielder if she isn’t one herself
Great video, re-watching the series and introducing it to my gf. We're currently on the first few episodes of the world tour. Xanatos is my all time favourite antagonist but I always feel the world tour episode where he mentions cliched villainy feels like writers hanging a lantern for Xanatos being under or poorly written in that episode. The scheme seems beneath him but they had to sort of justify it. My least favourite moment with the character.
If this show hadn't been screwed up and meddled with so badly, I really would have liked to see the Gargoyles take on other mythic and fantasy creatures. I know they kinda fought a werewolf with both Fox and...er...Wolf, but having them face a version of the Universal Classic Horror monsters would have been extremely fun! Gargoyles vs. Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster, The Wolfman, The Mummy, Mr. Hyde, and Creature from the Black Lagoon has a lot of potential to me.
Goliath insists on treating the whole clan as Angela’s parents. The whole clan (not counting the trio and older Hudson) are dead. He seems to have forgotten that.
I always found Demona's anger at Puck turning the humans into gargoyles to be a major sign of how much she's been blinded by the desire for vengeance and by her own hatred? Because, if you think about it, she was basically getting what she wanted and more - not only would the humans be gone, like she wanted, but she would literally be able to live in a world full of gargoyles again, possibly more than she'd ever known before then. But she was so focused on wanting to make the descendents of those who she felt wronged her pay that she didn't want the humans "replaced", she just wanted them all dead.
Physically being gargoyles didn't change that they were, at their core, still humans. They were raised with human values, ideas, beliefs, structures of society, religion, government, politics, etc. They were no more gargoyle than Elisa was when she turned. Didn't even know how to fly. It's the whole 'putting pearls on a pig' thing. Doesn't change what they were, even if in this case, they technically didn't remember physically being human before...in their heads, they always would've been.
Apparently Snidely Whiplash was a real person in the Gargoyles universe, given how Derek referred to him. After all, people don't usually talk about reincarnation in regards to fictitious characters. Hmm. That'd mean that Dudley Do Right was also real. Considering Weisman planned to use everything/everyone brought up in this show, now matter how trivial (Space Spawn), for future stories I'm left wondering if much like Nought (background character in The Gathering) he now intends to do something with Derek's throwaway line. Hmm. That'd be an interesting crossover. Goliath:"Why is that man sitting backwards on that horse?" :P
I watched a few episodes of this when I was little then rewatched the whole series a couple years ago. And I can’t believe not many people know about this show. This needs a lot more love. If ducktales can get a reboot this can
It's honestly a beautifull animated serie I'm from the new generation and I'm proud To say I learned english because of gargoyles (I'm french) this is honesly a really deep cartoon de can't find in our days (only in anime manga) I've would have liked live in those time :)
I'm interested to see your review on Season 3. I loved Gargoyles growing up but it wasn't till I got all the episodes from a flatmate and uni did I watch the whole series. I was so disappointed with Gargoyles; The Goliath Chronicles that I deleted that season and kept the others. Only things I remember was how I expected Xanatos to come up with a great scheme or use the Iron Clan robots to distract the anti-gargoyle group, but he was very inactive for most of the season. There was also that anti-climatic ending. :(
Good comments , it was a good show in that time. Like many other shows are gone..... Reboot , shadowriders, gargoyle , spiderman the new animated series. That was the best.
I feel there was always 3 types of "Gargoyles" episodes. #1- Is good beyond belief. It's the Pilot episodes, Macbeth episodes, many flashback episodes, and a few individual character episodes. #2- is okay. Mostly what you'd call regular episodes... which are okay but nothing special. Like a typical week-end stand alone episode. #3- are filler episodes (in their defense, their background often comes back and produce very good episodes) that are just straight out boring. But the show is nothing less than a masterpiece. I don't remember season three with the hooded hammer guys. Probably didn't watch that one. Seems I didn't miss much afterall. Thanks for the Retrospective. How I would wish for a great show like this now, untainted by SJW politics and other studio interference.
Huh..I just realized that Brookyln feels a lot like a better written Rodimus Prime, especially during the world tour when he had to take leadership during Goliath's absence. At first he isn't confident in his ability but slowly grows into and accepts the burden of leadership and like how Rodimus was as Hot Rod, Brooklyn also has the high spirited attitude but isn't as reckless.
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Check out Part 1 here: ua-cam.com/video/8_TbLoFA1xU/v-deo.html
Well Gargoyles remain me of Sailor Moon Crystal Because Goliath and his Clan teams remain me of Sailor Moon and her guardian teams and Demona kinda remain me of Queen Beyrl and more
Gargoyles was one of those major elements of my childhood. I was born in December 1993, so the show was basically just reruns on Toon Disney in the early 2000s, but I loved most if not every single episode. Season 3 wasn't that great, but I'm going to try and get my hands on the whole series anyway. If this show isn't on Disney+ I'm starting a petition.
You are phenomenal. What a great retrospective on a beloved season
Would you do The current reboot of Ducktales?
Omg he like street sharks
Xanatos: "So, now you know my weakness."
Goliath: "Only you would regard love as a weakness."
I just cant get over how awesomely animated their wings are.
SERIOUSLY! They are my favorite Gargoyle body feature besides their feet!
@@RosheenQuynhYeah, my favorite. I would really like to have big wings like the Gargoyles form the tv series and carry the wings on my back 😂
@@LuigiCotocea Agreed!
"We can do 13"
"how about 52?"
" *Say sike right now* "
Hugh Mann How about a nervous breakdown?
More like "say yes or we will export it to China"
21:39 I disagree, I thought Thailog was a pretty interesting villain. His main goal wasn't just "to get rich," but to prove his superiority to his three 'fathers.' The reason he was so obsessed with wealth, wasn't simply due to generic moustache-twirling greed, but because he wanted to surpass Xanatos in monetary power (in the same vein as how he tried to surpass Sevarius by creating the clone clan in 'The Reckoning,' and how he tried to best Goliath by hooking up with his former mate Demona...and then creating an implied sex slave by cloning the G man's two major love interests...nasty stuff!).
The dude is pretty much a walking Oedepus Complex, thanks mostly to the mistreatment he received from his 'fathers' (Xanatos and Sevarius pretty much treated him like shit from day one, and Goliath dismissed him as "an abomination" upon seeing him for the first time...true he regretted it almost immediately afterwards, but like nearly every other villain on the show, Thailog isn't one to forgive or forget). So yeah, Thailog is plenty of things, but never dull.
That's a terrific analysis of Thailog. I hadn't really considered any of that; was getting hung up on all the diabolical laughter
@@BullSession Thanks! Although to be honest, all that maniacal laughter just further endeared me to the character XD
My only real problem with Thailog was that he only had three episodes to establish his character, two of which he wasn't even the main focus of. Which is perhaps one of the biggest reasons why it sucks that season three turned out the way it did; the original plan was for Thailog to take Xanatos' place as the main antagonist, and the season would have further built upon his character and goals. Kind of like how season two built upon Demona from what little we got of her backstory in season one. But alas, we got stuck with The Goliath Chronicles, which killed Thailog and the other clones off in one episode like it was nothing...I fucking hate studio meddling...
Thailog was always a really interesting and engaging character for me. Even if he wasn't in more than a few episodes, his character development was top notch.
@@alexbenjaminlubbers Oh totally! In the handful of episodes he appeared in, Thailog certainly made a strong impression. It's just a shame he didn't get more episodes to himself.
@@CountCallous
I totally agree. I watched Gargoyles as a kid in the early 2000s as reruns. Had no idea that Season 2 was 52 episodes. We basically got 4 seasons in 1.
I think Thailog and Demona are tied for best gargoyle villain while Xanatos and Macbeth are best human villains. Jackal and Hyena are just over the top, it's so good to be bad villains.
It’s a shame Disney’s done all it can to forget one of its more mature and well written series.
No kidding; we'll go over that in part 3
@@BullSession Oberon was voiced by Terrence Stamp, whose best known for playing General Zod in the original 70s Superman flicks. Fitting he was chosen to play another arrogant jerk with a God complex. :P
Unfortunately, he wasn’t voiced by Stamp. He was voiced by Terrence Mann.
No No No!!! Leave it forgeten by Disney! Do not let those monsters know this property even exists! Protect Gargoyles from Disney at all costs!
@@gtaylor2455I agree with that
Kids ship Demona with Goliath, young adults ship Demona with Thaelog, but big boys ship her with Macbeth.
According to Weisman, despite their mutual hatred, Demona is "a little bit in love with him", even though she would likely never admit it to anyone, including herself.
@@Scotttjt blessed info
@@Scotttjt that's actually interesting and thinking about it makes sense why she has such hate for him because a person she possibly has feelings for she thought would betray her
Demona is one of the best Disney villains, just like real main character!
She is very complicated, poor and evil.
I like her stories, before she turned into bad, she really loves Goliath and her clan, but she used the worst way to “help” them.
Besides, her relationships with Goliath, Macbeth and Angela are very interesting to me, they makes her very complicated.
I always thought the whole thing between Demona and Macbeth was a combination of the movies Highlander and Dragonheart.
The "Gargoyles" retrospective lay dormant by the human they were sworn to protect, frozen in stone by a magic spell for several months. Now we are in August, the spell is broken, the retrospective lives again!
Now with that cheap joke out of the way, Season 2 was awesome. I think my favorite episodes of the World Tour arc were the ones with other gargoyles, and the post-Avalon set with the dystopian future and Goliath's crew finally returning to Manhattan. Plus, it's amazing how they incorporated many Shakespearian stories and mythologies into this show and managed to make them work in this show's universe.
Now I can't wait to see what you have to say about Season 3, which yeah, I didn't care for either.
I credit Gargoyles in developing my interest in Shakespearean literature as a young adult.
That's awesome, I can see how the show would instill an interest in renaissance era plays.
Now that it's going to be on Disney+ I hope a whole new legion of fans will develop.
I like the moment that Young Demona refused to harm Goliath and fighting to Future Demona.
Though she get crazy and creepy, she still has maternal love after knowing Angela is her daughter.
In fact, she knows her faults in her deep down, but she unwilling to admit it.
The Tim Curry character looks like Tim Curry. Also Tony Jay is sorely missed.
Oh no, censorship.
17:27 Well it’s official, Megabyte ‘Tony Jay’ has turn into a new form of evil he serves for his true master.. ANCIENT EGYPT!
[*IMPERIAL MARCH INTENSIFIES*]
One of the great what if's of television history: I would have loved to see all those spin off shows come to life and truly compete with DC. What would the world of entertainment look like if this had happened in the 90s?
Disney might actually still care about animated television.
Fun fact: I am a literal jalapeño.
See, those chiles are called after my home city, which is the capital of the Mexican state of Veracruz: Xalapa.
"X" is pronounced as "J" due to the indigenous náhuatl language, tho, which was spoke by the then all migthy aztec empire, which covered almost half of México at its peak.
Funnily enough the other bigger empire of mesoamericans were the mayans, who were part of the World Tour Arc, so it kinda is a Yin Yang circle in my eyes.
Hey there my Jalapeña friend!
The use of the word jalapeña in the show was done on a dare to Greg Wiseman.
Kieth David told a story about a female blues singer who would say Jalapeña! Instead of Hallelujah! And when the writing team heard the story they dared Greg and then he put it in the show...a bunch! They hated by the end.
You can check out other cool Gargoyles factoids here:
s8.org/gargoyles/archives/
Anyone else feel compelled to take to the streets at night to battle evildoers when this theme song plays? I weep for the proposed then indefinitely postponed reboot that was pitched and headed up by Jordan Peele. I'm confident that it would have been as excellent as this show as I imagine that like us, he was a fan growing up. You covered every topic or tidbit I was excited for, and I couldn't agree more, Ser. Spread the love.
This is great. You've made me want to rewatch the whole show (minus season 3, of course). Thanks man!
welcome!
This is 1 cartoon that definitely needs to be brought back on something like Netflix. But since it's a Disney property I guess it'll have to be on their streaming service> Hopefully it won't get ruined like ABC did w/ season 3. 🤷♂️
Love the videos on Gargoyles. I love how this show just for some reason has 52 episodes in only one season
Yesssss once again we rise from our roust and take to the sky. It both amazes and saddens me to this day there has never being a continuation or reboot of this series.
Disney would butcher it
@@alexbenjaminlubbers Get the original creators free range, throw in many of the OG VAs, and I think we'll all be okay.
@@em5522
I couldn't agree more!
Maybe see how the clan has grown in the last 26 years? The whereabouts of Thailog and Demona?
Love that you picked Future Tense for your #1. It's so good, and chilled me to my core as a kid. I've rewatched it as an adult and it still is chilling to me, and I'm AMAZED by just how much story they were able to put into a 22minute episode of television. It's astonishing how much is there, really.
I'd say City of Stone is my favorite, though, but it's impossible to single out any of those episodes; they all need each other to work. That multi-parter is some of the best-written content I've ever experienced, and something about it all just being one cog in a plot by the Weird Sisters to get soldiers for the Archmage has always been stupefying to me in its sheer scale.
Goliath: Youre thirst for vengeance has only created more sorrow. End this Cycle Demona, give us the Code.
Demona: The Access Code is.. Alone
Bam, right in the feels.
The 2nd season of Gargoyles is whyit became my favourite show. Wish Disney would bring it back .. I'd be down for it. They did a good job with remaking Duck Tales so I'd hope it turns out just as good as the OG Gargoyles
I can't believe I just watched a 40 minute video and it went by so fast. I was actually surprised when it ended, thought there was gonna be more. And I usually don't like UA-cam videos longer than 15-20 mins. Just discovered your channel and Im loving the content so far. Also the humor you throw in is just hilarious, makes me laugh out loud. Great channel dude! Keep it up!
Thanks!
How on earth did i forget the episode with the haunted battle axe wielding werewolf. I remember Wolf becoming his hybrid form, but not the whole haunted axe thing.
Omg when you did a voiceover of Demona “ I’m so over Goliath “ made me laugh out loud
God, the animation still looks so good.
Nice to see you back dude, You came from the Gamecube.
6:16 Mass Effect elevator music?! You just became even more awesome.
From the way I see it, Macbeth never did anything wrong. He’s arguably the most tragic victim in the whole show.
He never harmed Duncan until he found out that Duncan ordered his father’s death and wanted him dead too. He was perfectly justified in executing Duncan for that, and he showed honor and mercy to Duncan’s son.
He was an amazing king and leader, and Demona betrayed him at the slightest vocal consideration that he may betray her, which he wasn’t really considering on doing. He was taken down because of Demona acting against him before confronting him.
And then he leaves everything he ever loved to preserve it. He is forced to hide away from his family and kingdom so they can continue to thrive.
He only kidnapped Goliath and the others because he believed they were allies with Demona and probably thought they could lead him to her. He turned out to be wrong, but he had plenty reason to believe he was right (Although I guess I should rewatch that episode to be sure).
Macbeth has been cursed to live for 1000 years. All he wants is to pass away from life like everyone living creature is destined to do. He doesn’t want to kill Demona in revenge. He just wants to finally rest in peace, and there’s no sin in taking her down with him.
I'm so grateful "Future Tense" was one episode and only a possible future. I read a fanfic that saw it play out as a season-long story with a few choice edits on the authors part (eg. Lex was coersed into betraying the clan). It was heartbreaking and completely devastated me as a teenager to the point where I almost grieved for the characters and I'd really wanted a happy ending for all of them. That's my embarrassing tale.
Goliath and Elisa always reminded me of Vincent and Catherine from the 87 Beauty and the Beast series
Yeah ☺
Two beautiful & intelligent women of the law becoming romantically involved with unconventionally attractive individuals that were both sensitive & tough
they always reminded me of belle and beast from the 1991 beauty and the beast film
If you build it they will come can't wait for the 3rd part keep it up👍🏼
a gargoyles video? in ...2019...?
Is this what happiness feels like ( TT u TT )?
Also coldstone, coldfire and coldsteel's real names and their relationship is a reference to the Shakespearean play "the tragedy of Othello, the moor of venice"; othello (coldstone), desdemona (coldfire) and iago (coldsteel)
Oooh! I didn't know that. Thank you! I see them so differently now.
I’ll always love Gargoyles it’s one of my fondest memories as a teenager
Jalapenia, this was a spicy video. Keep it up!
All jokes aside, the cancellation of the New Olympians really hit me hard so thanks for that.
Wow dude you did a great job on this review. People can tell you really put your heart into this
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
31:41 - Did he just say 'Kinky' in a Disney show?
Best use of "Careless Whisper" in a UA-cam video review? Definitely.
God i loved this series. Too many great episodes to count. Great but i’m sure daunting review. I didnt get all of the references when it first aired but thanks to syndication on toon disney (RIP) i was able to enjoy it more when i was in high school and had more exposure to shakespeare. I really appreciated the world tour and all the mythologies they let shine. When they switched networks and timeslots, i knew that was the death knell for the series. Still watched but it was bad.
I loved this show. I wish they would make more.
I wish they would make more back in '96. I do not want them to make more now. Even with Greg at the helm, he's lost his marbles.. I don't want another Young Justice.
I love gargoyles it was such a great show and really awesome
You know how excitedly giddy I am when I saw the thumbnail of the video by chance on your channel.
Great retrospect, dude! Season two of Gargoyles might just be some of the best television I've ever seen, animation or otherwise.
And I don't make such praise lightly.
in the end everything that happened to Demona was her fault, jumping to conclusions without talking things out, the destruction of her clan not once but twice. I understand why she hates us but thats her fault not ours but she hates Elisa cause she's Goliath love interest now and a better woman then she is or ever was.
I really liked Puck he was my fav character from the fairy realm being a trickster just like the MCU's Loki only not out to destroy the world
But Demona kicked Elisa's butt in the episode "high noon" so she is clearly the better woman!
@@danielschmitt2299 Um I remember Elisa kicking Demona's butt a couple of times. Especially when Demona was human.
the theme makes me want to weep my favorite show growing up. I was legit disappointed that i wasn't born a gargoyle LOL. I used to record eps and rewatch them :)
One rather obscure animated show from the 90s I've never seen mentioned by any UA-cam reviewer was *"The Legend of Calamity Jane."*
It was briefly on the the WB network (not sure if it was part of the "Kids WB" lineup) and basically a western made to look like a Spaghetti Western with a female hero as the star. It was really a mixed bag in my opinion but still noteworthy for being an original work and having it's own unique style.
This video was a long time coming! Great job.
This show was so good. Loved it when I was a kid.
In The Episode City of Stone those people she smashed they would be just mush when the spell was broken nobody wants to talk about that
Demona can be an alternative protagonist, she is a very complicated character, and her experience is very brilliant.
After the tragedy of the castle, She lost everything, hatred and despair gradually eroded her mind, and The Angels of The Night have become "Demona".
I like the scene in S02E08 Vows, Young Demona loved Goliath very much 1000 years ago, she refused to betray him and saying she didn't want to be Future Demona.
As many times you used Back to the Future 2 as an example of time paradox, It was also a wasted opportunity to mention Detective Bluestone is the same actor as Biff.
"But that's just a theory, a Gargoyle theory..." teheheh
I'm going to re-watch these this week and weekend.
I was worried about you Paul! Had not seen anything on UA-cam or even Twitter in a while. With this video being 40 minutes long and Season 2 being 52 episodes I can see why you've been absent. Welcome back ♥️ I really need to go pick up the Gargoyle DVDs and rewatch all of these. There is so much I don't remember ever seeing! As always I love your retrospective and will be sharing it with friends!
Yea, this one was a doozy! Haven't really had time for any other videos besides weekly movie reviews, and even that I skipped last week to try and get this out for Friday (which still didn't happen). I hope it was worth it, though. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Apparently Atlantis:The Lost Empire would have been canon in the Gargoyle Universe as well..if they hadn't cancelled all of the spin-offs. So many lost opportunities..
I'm saddened I've never seen this, it looks amazing and what a wonderful concept
”Let me guess, your favorite show?”
”It was, and it was beautiful.”
Outstanding Work!!!!! My fav cartoon series as a kid. Your explanations and humor work great!!!!
This season three review should be really good I think it’s going to be when your first videos we just talk about something that you despise
You wanna see something I despise, check out my ReBoot: The Guardian Code videos :P
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Gargoyles is about the exact fact that there are no true villains only selfish jaded anti-heroes.
I have to admit, I kind of hate how the show written Demona. Granted, if a reboot was ever done, I still want Demona to be the tragic antagonist, but not so much a villain. While overboard, she still had a point and drove home that Gargoyles purpose didn’t have to mean to serve humans, especially humans who treated them less than second class citizens. Just replace Gargoyles with any marginalized group of people. If a reboot is ever done, I would love to see her points made clear and have Goliath’s own beliefs about what makes a Gargoyle and that they’re purpose does not have to be serving or protecting humans, if at all. Demona can still be the “bad guy” and still be single minded over her hate of humans, but it could be because she can’t get over the oppression she had to suffer under them.
Season 3 took place in the Clan Building comic series that Weissman wrote.
"Clan Building" was actual hot garbage.
Love the videos, and, I know it's a little out of your wheelhouse, could you touch on the canon comic continuation/alternate season 3 of gargoyles. They have great stories and got a rough treatment.
I will be touching on them briefly in my season three video
Love your videos man. Any thoughts on reviewing the Street Sharks??
Hoooo boy. Idk if I'd want to subject my rose tinted nostalgia goggles to rewatching Street Sharks. I absolutely LOVED that show back when I was like, 3 or 4. Perhaps someday!
@@BullSession I feel that, if Mattel ever do decide to resurrect Street Sharks, they should take it in a darker, grittier direction. After all, what happened to the Bolton brothers (painful, unnatural transformations into monstrous looking creatures followed by their father's corrupt ex-partner framing them thus turning most of their hometown against them) certainly lends itself to more mature storytelling (old show ATTEMPTED it, but things got too narmtacular). Also, really lean hard into the body horror aspect inherent to the characters. Get Cronenberg up in this joint.
@@BullSession what do you think of superhuman samurai syber squad?
@@BullSession you should also do a video of Biker Mice from Mars both the original and the 2006 one , all the Ghostbusters cartoons and the mummies.
The hunters are not descendants of the original hunter, GilleCoem Gaim. They are descendants of Duncan and his son Canmore, which is why they call the Hunters are part of clan Canmore.
11:30 wait is it actually said to be Belle’s dress because that expands your King Arthur theory considerably. In Kingdom Hearts Merlin a recurring supporting character and Belle makes a few appernces in the series. The fact this girl has the dress of someone from another world. Given that she didn’t get back to New York with a corridor of darkness we can rule that possibility out. However this means she’s possibly met a keyblade wielder if she isn’t one herself
Great video, re-watching the series and introducing it to my gf. We're currently on the first few episodes of the world tour.
Xanatos is my all time favourite antagonist but I always feel the world tour episode where he mentions cliched villainy feels like writers hanging a lantern for Xanatos being under or poorly written in that episode. The scheme seems beneath him but they had to sort of justify it.
My least favourite moment with the character.
If this show hadn't been screwed up and meddled with so badly, I really would have liked to see the Gargoyles take on other mythic and fantasy creatures. I know they kinda fought a werewolf with both Fox and...er...Wolf, but having them face a version of the Universal Classic Horror monsters would have been extremely fun! Gargoyles vs. Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster, The Wolfman, The Mummy, Mr. Hyde, and Creature from the Black Lagoon has a lot of potential to me.
"Give it to me Goliath"
"Put it in my hand!"
Oh Elisa, you and every other fangirl/boy
I would love to see a full length movie of “Gargoyles”. The movie could use motion capture and real human beings, the way it’s used in “Avatar”.
Disney ,with their franchises, should drop a CGI live action movie and then a series or two the year after....with Greg Weisman running some things.
Did he just call Demona, a "secondary villain character"?
I'm currently watching season two, and damn is it LOOONG!
Goliath insists on treating the whole clan as Angela’s parents. The whole clan (not counting the trio and older Hudson) are dead. He seems to have forgotten that.
Excellent use of that ReBoot clip!
As an English teacher, I'm a little surprised you missed out on the Othello conceit in the episodes with Coldstone.
haha, sorry if I was unclear. I'm not an English teacher; Greg Weisman was one. I don't think I've ever read Othello.
Oh. This season also has Othello as the three spirits in cold stone are named Othello, Desdemona, and Iago respectively
17:21 will forever remind me of soul reaver series
I always found Demona's anger at Puck turning the humans into gargoyles to be a major sign of how much she's been blinded by the desire for vengeance and by her own hatred? Because, if you think about it, she was basically getting what she wanted and more - not only would the humans be gone, like she wanted, but she would literally be able to live in a world full of gargoyles again, possibly more than she'd ever known before then. But she was so focused on wanting to make the descendents of those who she felt wronged her pay that she didn't want the humans "replaced", she just wanted them all dead.
Physically being gargoyles didn't change that they were, at their core, still humans. They were raised with human values, ideas, beliefs, structures of society, religion, government, politics, etc. They were no more gargoyle than Elisa was when she turned. Didn't even know how to fly. It's the whole 'putting pearls on a pig' thing. Doesn't change what they were, even if in this case, they technically didn't remember physically being human before...in their heads, they always would've been.
34:05 I got so off-guard by that.. 😂😂
Apparently Snidely Whiplash was a real person in the Gargoyles universe, given how Derek referred to him. After all, people don't usually talk about reincarnation in regards to fictitious characters. Hmm. That'd mean that Dudley Do Right was also real. Considering Weisman planned to use everything/everyone brought up in this show, now matter how trivial (Space Spawn), for future stories I'm left wondering if much like Nought (background character in The Gathering) he now intends to do something with Derek's throwaway line. Hmm. That'd be an interesting crossover. Goliath:"Why is that man sitting backwards on that horse?" :P
lmfao this is some top tier Disney tin foil. I love it :p
17:20
Damn, that’s deep.
My favorite story arc was "The City of Stone". Just epic !
I watched a few episodes of this when I was little then rewatched the whole series a couple years ago. And I can’t believe not many people know about this show. This needs a lot more love. If ducktales can get a reboot this can
It's honestly a beautifull animated serie I'm from the new generation and I'm proud To say I learned english because of gargoyles (I'm french) this is honesly a really deep cartoon de can't find in our days (only in anime manga) I've would have liked live in those time :)
11:50 Really cracks me up that she ask him and he's not sure how to answer honestly.😂
I know Greg is continuing the story in comic book form but wish they brought this continuing story in animation
I'm interested to see your review on Season 3. I loved Gargoyles growing up but it wasn't till I got all the episodes from a flatmate and uni did I watch the whole series.
I was so disappointed with Gargoyles; The Goliath Chronicles that I deleted that season and kept the others.
Only things I remember was how I expected Xanatos to come up with a great scheme or use the Iron Clan robots to distract the anti-gargoyle group, but he was very inactive for most of the season. There was also that anti-climatic ending. :(
I'll make the joke! Elisa wants Goliath's rock hard jalapeno!
Good comments , it was a good show in that time. Like many other shows are gone..... Reboot , shadowriders, gargoyle , spiderman the new animated series. That was the best.
i really loved fox and her birthmark watching as a kid.
I feel there was always 3 types of "Gargoyles" episodes.
#1- Is good beyond belief. It's the Pilot episodes, Macbeth episodes, many flashback episodes, and a few individual character episodes.
#2- is okay. Mostly what you'd call regular episodes... which are okay but nothing special. Like a typical week-end stand alone episode.
#3- are filler episodes (in their defense, their background often comes back and produce very good episodes) that are just straight out boring.
But the show is nothing less than a masterpiece. I don't remember season three with the hooded hammer guys. Probably didn't watch that one. Seems I didn't miss much afterall.
Thanks for the Retrospective. How I would wish for a great show like this now, untainted by SJW politics and other studio interference.
Huh..I just realized that Brookyln feels a lot like a better written Rodimus Prime, especially during the world tour when he had to take leadership during Goliath's absence.
At first he isn't confident in his ability but slowly grows into and accepts the burden of leadership and like how Rodimus was as Hot Rod, Brooklyn also has the high spirited attitude but isn't as reckless.
Holy fuck the animation in Future Tense is so stunningly good.
Man, some of that animation is really good.
If he is the same Aurthur then he manned the fuck up well.
33:59
Don’t know which voice is funnier, Her or when he did Matrix’s voice when he did ReBoot Season 3.
The first episode I ever saw was Vows.
The second I saw was City of Stone I - IV.....I was hooked right then and there.
being long is good, it means you have a lot of ideas for this.