I've been rewatching the series, and the best is in "Dark Disciple", when Rhinox is turned into a Predacon, Optimus is telling the rest of them that they're not gonna go get him, cause he knew evil Rhinox would fuck all the Predacons up by himself, and he said "I think Megatron got a little more than he bargained for", and then he looks directly at the camera, and goes "Yessssssssssss", I fuckin died laughing.
The line "The question which once haunted my being has been answered. The future is not fixed, and my choices are my own... and yet, how ironic! For I now find, I have no choice at all! I am warrior... let the battle be joined." is always going to be a favorite of mine
Half of RatTrap's line are about how perverted he is. "I know this little place where the waitresses...well, walk around without their torso pieces" (Topless waitresses) One half of his dialogue is whining, the other is him salivating at getting back to Cybertron so he could go to Cybertronian hooters.
I never realized this, but Dinobot must've skinned the Dinobot clone and kept it as a prize. I know he made mentions that he ate the clone, but you can see the skin in his quarters.
Rampage was always my favorite. He didn't have a ton of characterization in the show, but his introduction was awesome and he always felt like a serious threat. Plus the toy just felt so good to play with. Those claws were HUGE, and (almost) all of his limbs were really solid. 10/10 would crab again.
Just a point about the Season 2 Megatron retcon making some of his Season 1 actions seem nonsensical. Ultimately Megatron *didn’t* need it to be Earth. Finding a huge amount of Energon was a basic way of equipping the Predacons on Cybertron to stage a coup against the Maximals. Finding the Ark was just an easier way of achieving that conquest via destroying the Autobots & making sure the Pax Cybertronia never existed in the first place. Megatron does say to Ravage that only a fragment of the Disk remained & we know that G1 Megatron was a meticulous planner, as Beast Megatron himself says. Thus we can infer that the Golden Disk contained several of the original Megatron’s plans to ensure the Great War was won. The two we saw executed by Beast Megatron both make sense & work to achieve that ultimate aim. Megatron acts like it was always his plan because he’s still the same narcissistic ass that he was in the first Season. It’s entirely in-character. He’s a ham, albeit a powerful one, who covers his bets & maintains an act of omniscience to inspire fear in his troops.
That's how I saw it too. And he says, when he's in the Ark, how he was reluctant to follow G1 Megatron's instructions which were to change time, and when he saw that there was so much Energon, he figured he could mine it and use it for conquest like you said, without even needing to change history. It was only after a lengthy war against the Maximal force that he fell back on that original plan as a last resort.
Exactly. Remember when Blackarachnia and Silverbolt were opening the passage to the Ark? "It appears someone dug this tunnel and then blasted it shut." He always had the time shenanigans plan in his back pocket but even he wasn't reckless enough to go through with it. Not until he had exhausted his other options.
6:34. My head canon for Quickstrike is that he was a Predacon thug who, through fake credentials secured from Cybertron's black market, weaseled his way into the Axalon crew manifest in order to evade Maximal authorities following a heist he bungled which resulted in a few innocent casualties. He used to be slightly smarter than he is now but processor damage from his Stasis Pod's crash landing coupled with his hybridized beast mode's overbearing aggressiveness created the trigger happy dunce we all know & love.
@@BullSession I'd love a comic mini series that explored the cast's pre-BW lives. Closest we've come is prequel material such as Theft Of The Golden Disk & Dawn Of Future's Past, but neither delves very deeply into it's characters.
8:00. Honestly I wish the writers opted to spring Terrorsaur from his magma encrusted imprisonment. Having him return, Transmetalized no less, could've lead to some interesting story possibilities, such as: him becoming an independent agent like Tarantulas, dabble in cloning ala TFA Starscream resulting in his repaints Lazorbeak & Fractyl and the show actually lampshading how everybody forgot him thus making Terrorsaur's new motivation to be accomplishing something so grandiose he'll be remembered forever.
That would be cool. I was pissed he didn't get to stick around his Starscream arc was a great tie in to G1. Ooo they could hint that he is a decendant of Starscream, that'd be kinda metal.
Oh man, the double whammy of Code of Hero and Transmutate.....fantastic television. Season 2 really makes Beast Wars. 1 and 3 were good but it's 2 that makes this series a classic.
I actually hated Transmutate at the time because I was so upset at them for killing Dinobot. Re-watching it later though... I still hate it. I mean, what the fuck is that thing and why do I care?
Loved Dinobot, was the first 'tragic hero' and 'sacrifice' story I ever understood, everything before that made me feel 'oh man he's dead', but Dinobot's felt real and it hurt to see him die even though he won, he saved the humans and beat Megatron. Also OMG Shadow Raiders I forgot and now its all rushing back to me, Take your time, you do amazing work thank you, this feels professional T.V. stuff You are Great!
wow, thank you! Yea I'm super looking forward to Shadow Raiders. Literally the only negative thing I've ever heard about it is that it ends on a massive cliffhanger. I don't know what the cliffhanger is, but at least my body is ready.
Be hilarious if the day Mainframe is shutting down, the apocalypse happens. So literally, Mainframe ends on a cliffhanger before it can officially end. It would be a fitting end(?) for them.
Season 2 was probably my absolute favorite. The depth of both story and characters was far beyond anything that 12-year-old me had ever seen on a kids' show. The acting and writing were flawless for what the show was trying to be. The whole damn thing was just perfect.
Yeah, would have been nice had they at least added four more eps (Dark Glass among them) if not 13 more so to fit a 65-ep criteria. Still, what we got is still great and virtually flawless.
I always did enjoy Dinobot quoting Shakespeare also I loved the fact that Megatron quoted poetry is will a lot especially in season 3. In fact I daresay Beast Wars is maybe what got me interested in reading poetry in the first place.
I love beast Wars as a whole, but season 2 is definitely the strongest, tightest season. Transmutate was the only real standalone episode (but a very good one). All of the others were part of an overarching plot. The characters saw growth (through the whole series), the animation got a big bump in quality, and of course there were a lot of revelations.
And was supposed to be the voice director for Prime permanently, until her wife passed away on 2010 (thus ending her in S1E7 of the show), after which Jamie Simone (know for English dub voice directing for Naruto and its Shippuden sequel) took over afterwards.
Transmutate was an interesting episode, since according to early production notes for the series when it was first being put together, Rattrap was going to be severely deformed himself, with an exposed brain and other abnormal features that left him in a constant state of turmoil about his mortality. But due to the limitations of the CG at the time, and the fact that it would have been a massive departure from his toy, they ultimately abandoned the idea and used elements of it for the Transmutate episode.
15:50 actually there is 1 piece of dialogue in S3 in the finale where Megatron mentions that tarantulas is a decedent of Unicron 19:55: Ravage having a cat head was Mainframes attempt to cut corners with giving Ravage a new look by using Tigertron's beast mode head with Transmetal Cheetor's body. Also it was mentioned by Primal that after the Great War some deceptions were granted amnesty, more then likely the tripredicous council had a hand in that as they wanted to use Ravage for spy missions since he specialized in that field when serving Megatron. and the reason Ravage did his transformation was actually because Mainframe wanted the Original Transformers theme to play during the attack, but due to legal issues with Hasbro they had to use the generic rock track. 22:40 funny enough, Germany never got Beast Wars S3 so S2 WAS the finale for them
While Megatron does call Tarantulas "Unicron's Spawn", it was more meant as an insult than anything else. I can see why people took this as fact, since a lot of Beast Wars' lines were misconstrued that way in the early days. For example, the Predacon's ship was never called the "Darksyde", fans just misinterpreted as so after hearing Terrorsaur say it and they kept it in. Likewise, some people though Arcee was actually Rattrap's aunt, even though that was really thrown in as a gag more than anything else. Tarantulas being Unicron's spawn WAS worked into the comic continuity later though, so much like Darksyde it did have an effect on continuity.
Bull Session one thing you didn't mention is the fact that the Golden Disc is a reference to the one our (actual) satelites sent to space. With the implication that they intercepted it and was able to find Earth because its 'written' on the discs
Bull Session unless they were rooting for the Predacons. I was born after this show ended so my data may be inaccurate but their seems to be as many fans of the predacons if not more so than the maximals
The retcon of them being on earth was actually genius. Connecting G1 and Beast Wars in that way was a brilliant idea. Megatron was looking for Earth the whole time, and was able to study the Golden Disc at length once they had crashed, discovering the message that G1 Megatron encoded onto it, which fuelled and altered his character's arc in the following seasons. So, even though they initially weren't planning on any of what happened after S1, they sure as hell pulled some magic out of their butts and created one of the all-time best animated shows, ever. Also, Terrorsaur would have been OP if he became transmetal.
The biggest surprise for me as a kid was that the Beast Wars transformers were actually to scale with the animals they represented. When Prime was shown I was like "but why is he so humongous" and then it hit me... Optimus Primal was the size of a regular gorilla all along... maybe a bit bigger, but still....
I loved Dinobot so much. I think out of all the Transformers series and iterations, his character was easily one of the most well developed and well written. You actually learned something from his life and his death, which is saying something considering it was just a show to sell toys. And then there was that transmutate episode... So sad... No, I'm not crying... You're crying! .·´¯`(>▂
2:16 Here's my take on Megatron's motives: yes his original mission was to change the course of "history", but at some point he realized that the vast presence of energon might render that mission unnecessary if he could make it back, then Cybertron would be at his mercy rather than serve someone else. After the aliens destroyed most of the energon, he figured he should resume his original plan.
It was amusing to me that i didnt even notice terasaur and scorpinok gone until half way through second season as a kid. And i think inferno took a back seat for a while too.
Megatron's first season plan (gathering Energon, then returning to the present) is explained in side materials as his initial hesitance to go through with assassinating the dormant Opitmus Prime, because altering the fabric of time can easily go horribly wrong. Also, *NEW FUNKY MODE!* at 5:10.
Dinobot was my favorite character from the show. Initially because he was my favorite dinosaur, a deinonychus. Really shallow reason to like him in spite of his obvious anti-hero status at the beginning of the show. But he has the best character arc of the series.
1:42 that prime figure cost me $30 back in the day. Those beast wars figures were the best looking toys that also had articulation back in the day. Man I miss that show
The ball joint was a huge innovation for Transformers toys at the time. It allowed them to have more articulation than even many regular action figures in addition to the ability to transform.
Man brings back good memories. I loved this show. That Dinobot episode is poignant even today. I actually like Primal and this Megatron more the OG ones.
Awesome! Was wondering when this video would drop. Word on the street was that having Ravage transform into a cassette tape was supposed to start playing the classic Transformers theme song, but Mainframe wasn't able to secure the rights. But it had already been animated (with the classic transforming sound, no less), so they kept it.
4:48 I used to have that Transmetal form of Waspinator when I was a kid also Tripredecus and Transmetal 1 Megatron If I recall Scorponok & Terrorsaur survive encased in lava in the comics Also Tarantulas has the Vox's powers
I kind of wish they did more with Optimus Primal inserting his spark into a new body. Sure, that protoform didn't have a spark, but it would have been interesting seeing him dealing with being a new person. You could've had Primal start to develop a second personality, or trying to be way too protective of his new body. Instead, they just shove his Spark into a new body and are like "Okay, have some new powers, I guess". I mean, it's cool that he got back, I just wish they played around with the concept some more.
hahahaha! I started writing a whole bit where I was gonna get into Primal's ressurection that but then opted instead to go for the cuttaway joke. Ditillio and Forward actually wanted Primal to stay dead initially. They only brought him back because Hasbro told them they had to because they had made an Transmetal Optimus Primal toy. That's likely why it seems somewhat rushed over in the show.
I felt as though SilverBolt also felt a sort of kinship with transmutate, due to him being the only fuzor on the team. Especially when he said "Are we Predacons now?! Do we destroy whatever does not fit our definition of perfection?!" Awesome review btw!
Dont forget what he said to primal when primal and cheetor where gonna take care of ravage " no, let him be. For the moment we are brothers" silverbolt understood that ravage wanted to protect transmutate as much as him.
I love Code of Hero, but Transmutate is by far my favorite episode in the series. It emotionally wrecked me, and I love media that fucks my emotions in the ass
Destroying the autobots was a last resort after many failed attempts in destroying the maximal's. A way of cheating and causing a domino effect. He was hesitant in changing the future originally but I think he was tired of failure after failure which made him mad and more thirsty with power especially after becoming a Transmetal. I believe holding the G2 Megatrons spark in his torso affected him further, taking on some of his predecessors personality and corrupting his mind. He became a megalomaniac. After optimus tried communicating with Megs spark in beast machines he felt he wasn't a stable consciousness, de-polarized spark or not.
Ravange was small for a Decepticon but perfect size for a Predatcon andthey did mention he was rebuilt. Also the cassette thing is still a nod to G1 since the Original Megatron turned into a gun.
season 2 was my favorite of the three, it gave us a bit more story driven episodes and some new characters, Sliverbolt being my favorite of the new bots and even gave a shot out to the fans of G1. i loved the three part final but my two favorites would have to be Code Of Hero and Transmutate. Transmutate was in interesting soul, so innocent and her death hit some heart strings along with Rampage's reaction. but Code Of Hero will forever be my all time favorite Transformers episode, Dinobot to this day remains my favorite Transformer. he was an honorable warrior who started off on the Preds side and only joined the Maxs just to beat Megatron. but over time he grew to be a true hero. his death hit me the hardest, even more than 86 Optimus. its sad, but i still love it. this was a great video, cant wait till you get to season 3, keep up the great work
Dinobot is teriffic and Code of Hero is an absolutely fantastic episode of television; Transmutate as well. And you're right; Prime's death in the 86 movie was pretty dang sad but the sheer weight of Code of Hero's ending... Hey, who's cutting onions in here?
I think Dinobot is the character whose story taught me, as a child, that the people on the other side (be it a battlefield or otherwise) is a person too. He is also a shining example of a villain type who switches sides and *doesn't* somehow magically heal all his flaws and become a sparkly model citizen of the good guys culture. Contrast this with Blackarachnia who lost her cool edginess when she turned Maximal enough that she instantly was less likeable because all the "good" she had to try so hard to be (similar to DB) was just "given" to her by new programming. I was so disappointed in that lol. She's still cool but it's like she instantly skipped 3 more seasons worth of character development with one surgery. Dinobot went out still a Predacon, and still a hero. To this day, I view Deceptions with more depth than I think Hasbro let's their writers portray because of him.
Why Rinox didn't get a Transmetals upgrade is sad. My favorite character second to Prime... And then what they did to him in Beast Machines was a travesty!
I absolutely fell in love with Rampage, and Depth Charge in the next season. I wouldn't have, except they gave us that Transmutate episode, which hinted at a depth of emotional intelligence I didn't expect of his character. He "feels" others, implying a kind of super empathy ability on top of the curse of being immortal, and made me wonder if he enjoys killing because a) he has never been treated as and therefore thought of himself as anything but a monster and b) he feels the world is a painful nightmare and craves death, so when he kills he feels what it's like to die. This is why he enjoys DC so much, thinks of him as a friend, and lets go of the crystal shard in the end. I could have watched a whole show, or another season, with Rampage and Depth Charge learning and growing as people and their dynamic changing in response to the Beast Wars and other characters. Example. It would have been too dark for the show to ruminate on much, but is Rampage a cold killer with no morals who knows what he's doing and does it anyway, or is he a severely abused victim of horrific scientists whose only way he has ever learned to deal with the world is harming others in a chase of death? He sensed Transmutate pain and identified with them so much he was shockingly vulnerable, and openly showed his pain in mourning their passing. Later in the show, he is trying to squish Blackarachnia and she says You'll regret this, crab legs! His response, "I regret everything, my sweet. Struggle as much as you like, I enjoy it!" He could have just said the second part. What she first part mean!? And then he lets go. I remember as a kid I didn't have the maturity to wonder stand understand why such a strong, scary villain *let go* of the crystal to die. It stuck with me for a long time. So incredibly interesting that a show as goofy and fun as Beast Wars has this dark, morbid, highly intelligent, scarily emotionally sensitive, fascinatingly tortured character turned slave to the main villain buried within it's many plot threads.
I agree, I feel Transmutate was one of the best episodes as well. Though it has a rather... Interesting history. So, when the internet was young the episode was the center of a rather intense April Fool's joke. What happened was that some unnamed employees at Mainframe got their hands on the script for the Transmutate episode and altered it to include a scene of Rattrap and Cheetor taking turns mounting Transmutate. YES, SERIOUSLY. The script was meant as a joke and never meant to see the light of day, but was found by the extremely old Usenet group "Alt.Toys.Transformers". The script ended up leaked before the actual episode aired in America, resulting in people thinking it was real. What adds to it is that the script was almost 90% the same as the actual episode, just with the mounting scene added in. So people who saw the leak script and started watching the episode would be lead to believe that the mounting scene was in there... Only to reach the scene in question and find out it doesn't exist. Keep in mind that this was in a time when you couldn't easily confirm on the internet if something was real or not, unless you witnessed it for yourself. This is why video-game urban legends and myths were prevalent in the late 90s and early 2000s. So people were actually fooled into believing this was the case, especially because it came from a popular source. It's a good thing nowadays that we don't fall for such absurd myths and urban legends when it comes to cartoons... *Cough* Creepypastas *Cough cough*
Yea, I read about the leaked April Fool's script. I tried to get my hands on it, but I wasn't able to find it, so I didn't include it in the video. Funny stuff though. You wouldn't happen to have a copy would you? I was a bit too young for Alt.Toys.Transformers in its heyday but I've heard the legends lol
I was a bit too young myself, I only heard of it through the wiki. Sadly, I do not have a copy, though I recall reading it somewhere before... Not sure where. Edit: Nevermind, I found a version on the TF Wiki. WARNING: VERY NSFW groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/alt.toys.transformers/avg4cvggM9U/dReZHoCsN9QJ
19:19. Ravage's very show accurate Takara fig is something I've long sought after. Instead I own the Tripredacus Agent toy, which served as the basis for his appearance in both Primeval Dawn & The Gathering/Ascending. It's a sublime reuse of the TM2 Cheetor mold but I'd still prefer owning the Takara fig since I love his design from the show, even if it was ultimately just a resourceful recycling of Cheetor & Tigatron CG parts.
I would like to see a good high quality Beast Wars video game for modern systems. Preferably where you're able to scale the landscape in beast mode to explore and counters with enemies be similar to a one on one duel along with having a nemesis system.
I think if only they incorporated the fact the Transmetal forms were supposed to kind of swap their concepts with a more organic while still robotic humanoid form and metal beast mode, the concept of that might have made Megatron's goal in Beast Machines make more sense of it was expanded on, how much the Transmetal stuff altered them. On its own in the show it doesn't without that detail.
A. The fact that Quickstrike gels so well with the Predacons actually speaks well about how Maximals program their stasis pods. When a stasis pod is activated with a Predacon programming-chip the protoform personality is actively steered towards a Predacon mindset, but with a Maximal programming-chip the protoform's personality is left intact. B. It's not stated that Tarantulas doesn't descend from Autobots or Decepticons, it's stated that he doesn't descend from Ark-bound Autobots or Decepticons. (He could still be a descendant of Shockwave for example, but his personality would make him Shockwave's unfavored if it were the case)
Awesome review again! I wanna add two bits of info. The moment where Ravage turns into a cassette tape, the background music was supposed to be the original Transformers Theme, but because they couldn't get the rights to use it in time, they had to use the Beast Wars music instead. Also, there's a little mistake where Rattrap isn't a transmetal during Dinobot's Funeral. When you see it, you can't unsee it.
Bull Session because he's standing beside Rhinox, I think it was just a still captured from season one that they just pasted into the scene, hoping nobody would notice. It even looks like they're at the base's computer console but outside.
The end of this season was the most terrifying yet exciting moment of my childhood. I was so worrisome seen all of my heroes been wiped out after my most sacred child-memory had been shot in the face. However, it was so rewarding and satisfying seeing Megatron's Ultimate Triumph, realizing that he had managed to potentially win and change the entire history, even of G1. The kiss with the dog mouth killed me, I laughed so hard. As a child, I always felt awkward watching the relationship between Silverbolt and Blackarachnia, It was kind of unnecessary to me. Surprisingly enough, now I even relate to it. Thanks once again for the awesome review. I'm looking forward to hear your thoughts on "Optimal Situation" and "Nemesis".
Right? It especially blows your mind when you consider that the show COULD HAVE ENDED ON THAT NOTE. Like, *that* could have been the final canon ending of G1 in some alternate timeline where the show wasn't renewed.
Damn! Trip down Nostalgia lane on this video. Really enjoyed it! Was interesting seeing the full overview of the second season. Dinobot's character arc... man, that hit me when I was young...
Great video, although I'm surprisedy you didn't mention the fact that it's implied that Dinobot's use of the stick & rock together to make a tool inspired the usage of tools by the earliest primitive humans, allowing our species to evolve the way we did in the first place.
Best line exchange in that episode imo Quickstrike (mockingly): "What's a warrior without a weapon, huh?" Dinobot: "...*snarls*... a warrior still!" Couldn't find anywhere to put it in the video organically.
I'd figured out the plot hole problem with the predacons salvage/steal the remains of there computer seintinal not only did he find dinobots back up but also the plans rinox use to bring back optimus primal and that was the oversized device he had on the blank
I always assumed that when Megatron and the others crashed, he didnt know he was on earth, so the plan of just getting as much energon as possible was just a byproduct of just never really having enough and once they had won there they would keep looking for earth.
Silverbolt! Yes! You got his personality down so right! Part Lancelot, Part Superman - my thought exactly! Code of Hero, the best moments of the show right up there with Spock's funeral in Star Trek II. Stand at attention friends, a great one passes.
Star Trek II is an amazing film. I once wrote a 12 page rant on how bad Star Trek Into Darkness was in comparison... maybe I'll dust it off and make a video someday...
A video series about more Star Trek stuff would be welcome for someone catching up on the franchise. And yes, that includes ST IV, Nemesis, and Enterprise.
Another fantastic retrospective, Bull! Dinobot's death still makes me tear up. Everything is so well written and acted, you can't help but form attachments to these characters. While the reduced episode count did have them tighten the story, I do wish Seasons 2 & 3 had at the very least 16 episodes each. As you touched upon, more episodes on Rampage beyond a sadistic killer, would've been great. Not to mention certain other characters introduced in the next season.
Thank you! I agree, I think a few more episodes would have been nice to have on season 2; 16 does seem to be the sweet spot as far as MFE shows go. And yes, we're definitely going to have to go over the way season 3's new characters were handled.
Sharing to all my friends! This is such a great review and covered so many things I forgot wow! I need to find the dvds for all the Mainframe works. I'm excited to see more about "Shadow Raiders"
Inferno was fucking hilarious. His introduction episode is amazing too.......sadly he went from badass to comic relief. He should have been comic relief (due to dialogue) and still been a badass. Loved his transformation as well. At the time it was very impressive.
Code of hero is now one of my favorite episodes in a cartoon period its that good and when the transfomers hall of fame started I was glad dinobot got in there they kinda put him as a joke nomination but oh boy they underestimated his popularity. Im glad other beast wars characters have joined to like waspinator both beast wars mega tron amd optimus primal and most recently of last year Blackarachnia
Is it just me or have anyone notice on Beast Wars season 2 all the Statis Pods have landed/ crash on earth since the last episode from season 1 and none of the Maximal and Predacons try to find where they all are since Tigertron and Airazor were kidnapped from the Alien since then?🤔. In fact at the start of Beast Wars Season 2, I also remember that both Terrorsaur and Scorponok perish after they have lost control of their hover platforms and collide into each other as both fall into the lava pitt and never seen, heard or mention again. Also at the end of the episode third stasis pod that are shown lying in a barren area and their DNA scanners malfunctioning, but there one bit that doesn't make sense or explain as one of the protoform robot had it arm stick out of the pod and after that in the next episode reveal that it's in piece even though we never got to see what the rest of the body looks like anyway..
The official version is that most of them were destroyed during re-entry (Rampage, Transmutate and Dinobot II being the exceptions). Fortunately, both 3H comics and IDW have ignored that to do their own take on what happened to these protoforms.
Looking forward to you covering Shadow Raiders (after covering the next part of Guardian Chode, that is) Shadow Raiders always stood out to me as Mainframe's hidden gem. Sure, almost all of their early work was amazing. Nothing really compared to Shadow Raiders though. It was the darkest of all their shows, had a ton of fantastic characters, a great theme song that's also dark and ominous, and has some great action. And despite ending on a cliffhanger, they at least make it a semi-happy, albeit with a dark twist near the end. Best of all, despite being based on a toyline, it takes its own direction. Heck, some of the characters on the show barely resemble their toys! There are also several who don't even have toys at all! The most sucky thing of all is that its there most obscure show! It's like when a game developer team puts out a high quality game, and only like 100,000 people buy it and then forget about it in two weeks. I'm glad you're going to be bringing Shadow Raiders the attention it deserves :)
I believe it is mentioned that Tarantulas and the TriPredicus council are children of Unicron hence why Tarantulas attempted to destroy the ark wiping out both opposition
The episodes Code of hero and transmutate made me cry as a kid. Those episodes stayed with me and I still remember them fresh my mind today. They were such great television and writing. It's probably because I'm a girl and I finally got some representation(on the good side) in the TV show that I loved to watch but I loved Airazor as a kid and was so sad when she just disappeared for many episodes with tigertron. I thought she was going to come back with him and they had a whole new set of maximals that they had found on their Journeys. But that's not what we got, instead I got so disheartened when she disappeared altogether. Sure technically her spark was still Within the new Transformers body that hers and tigertrons were made out of but we never heard her again and that always left a bad taste in my mouth. Always thought it would have been more fun if they had shared control over the body.
I'll definitely be talking all about the mishandling of Tigatron and Airazor (especially Airazor) as well as all the different ways Tigerhawk doesn't work as a character in the forthcoming season 3 video.
Wow talk to text fail. Sorry about my terrible grammar, I'm surprised you were able to understand what I was talking about. I'm super excited to watch the next video. I've only just found your channel and I think I'm going to subscribe. :D
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I've been rewatching the series, and the best is in "Dark Disciple", when Rhinox is turned into a Predacon, Optimus is telling the rest of them that they're not gonna go get him, cause he knew evil Rhinox would fuck all the Predacons up by himself, and he said "I think Megatron got a little more than he bargained for", and then he looks directly at the camera, and goes "Yessssssssssss", I fuckin died laughing.
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Hot take: I like Prince Zuko, I really do, but... Dinobot >>>>> Prince Zuko.
Dino bot was pre-Vegeta for me
The line "The question which once haunted my being has been answered. The future is not fixed, and my choices are my own... and yet, how ironic! For I now find, I have no choice at all! I am warrior... let the battle be joined." is always going to be a favorite of mine
Dinobot was such a great character. His development was so deep.
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*"Optimus: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"*
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"Last time on Beast Wars..."
"MEGATROOOOOOOOOOOOON!"
"MEGABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYTE!"
"PLANKTOOOOOOOOOOOOON!"
"DONKEY!"
Primal: no! Nooooooo! MegatrooooooooooooooooOooOoOOoOooOooOooOoOOoOoOoOoOoOOoOoOoOoOoOOo00000ooooooo ( kaboom )
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"Find any new positions?" Damn Rattrap, are you TRYING to give the show a higher age rating?
"For kids"
@@KamenriderCrusher 90's kids!
*Shadow Raiders: War Planets has entered the chat*
Half of RatTrap's line are about how perverted he is.
"I know this little place where the waitresses...well, walk around without their torso pieces" (Topless waitresses)
One half of his dialogue is whining, the other is him salivating at getting back to Cybertron so he could go to Cybertronian hooters.
I never realized this, but Dinobot must've skinned the Dinobot clone and kept it as a prize. I know he made mentions that he ate the clone, but you can see the skin in his quarters.
@@JazzStation95 So are Rampage and Tarantulas.
@@yurionedge2199Tarantulas make sense considering the later series depict him
Rampage was always my favorite. He didn't have a ton of characterization in the show, but his introduction was awesome and he always felt like a serious threat. Plus the toy just felt so good to play with. Those claws were HUGE, and (almost) all of his limbs were really solid.
10/10 would crab again.
I remember some kid I knew back then having the toy and I was so jealous. Rampage looks awesome
Just a point about the Season 2 Megatron retcon making some of his Season 1 actions seem nonsensical.
Ultimately Megatron *didn’t* need it to be Earth. Finding a huge amount of Energon was a basic way of equipping the Predacons on Cybertron to stage a coup against the Maximals. Finding the Ark was just an easier way of achieving that conquest via destroying the Autobots & making sure the Pax Cybertronia never existed in the first place. Megatron does say to Ravage that only a fragment of the Disk remained & we know that G1 Megatron was a meticulous planner, as Beast Megatron himself says. Thus we can infer that the Golden Disk contained several of the original Megatron’s plans to ensure the Great War was won. The two we saw executed by Beast Megatron both make sense & work to achieve that ultimate aim.
Megatron acts like it was always his plan because he’s still the same narcissistic ass that he was in the first Season. It’s entirely in-character. He’s a ham, albeit a powerful one, who covers his bets & maintains an act of omniscience to inspire fear in his troops.
That's how I saw it too. And he says, when he's in the Ark, how he was reluctant to follow G1 Megatron's instructions which were to change time, and when he saw that there was so much Energon, he figured he could mine it and use it for conquest like you said, without even needing to change history. It was only after a lengthy war against the Maximal force that he fell back on that original plan as a last resort.
Exactly. Remember when Blackarachnia and Silverbolt were opening the passage to the Ark? "It appears someone dug this tunnel and then blasted it shut." He always had the time shenanigans plan in his back pocket but even he wasn't reckless enough to go through with it. Not until he had exhausted his other options.
Well said 👏 👌
Shows like Reboot and Beast Wars are ones that I'm proud to point to and say "Yup, those are Canadian."
Don't forget Arthur.
6:34. My head canon for Quickstrike is that he was a Predacon thug who, through fake credentials secured from Cybertron's black market, weaseled his way into the Axalon crew manifest in order to evade Maximal authorities following a heist he bungled which resulted in a few innocent casualties. He used to be slightly smarter than he is now but processor damage from his Stasis Pod's crash landing coupled with his hybridized beast mode's overbearing aggressiveness created the trigger happy dunce we all know & love.
I smell a spinoff!
@@BullSession I'd love a comic mini series that explored the cast's pre-BW lives. Closest we've come is prequel material such as Theft Of The Golden Disk & Dawn Of Future's Past, but neither delves very deeply into it's characters.
There's also The Razor's Edge, which is about Airazor's past.
I honestly actually respect the "fuck it we'll blow up a moon if we want to"
8:00. Honestly I wish the writers opted to spring Terrorsaur from his magma encrusted imprisonment. Having him return, Transmetalized no less, could've lead to some interesting story possibilities, such as: him becoming an independent agent like Tarantulas, dabble in cloning ala TFA Starscream resulting in his repaints Lazorbeak & Fractyl and the show actually lampshading how everybody forgot him thus making Terrorsaur's new motivation to be accomplishing something so grandiose he'll be remembered forever.
I loved terrorsaur and hated that he got knocked out.
That would be cool. I was pissed he didn't get to stick around his Starscream arc was a great tie in to G1. Ooo they could hint that he is a decendant of Starscream, that'd be kinda metal.
When your first idea is "make him like another character already in the show" that proves how limited the possibilities really are
Legacy man, legacy.
Oh man, the double whammy of Code of Hero and Transmutate.....fantastic television. Season 2 really makes Beast Wars. 1 and 3 were good but it's 2 that makes this series a classic.
Reboot Season 3: We're the greatest season of television in cartoon history!
Beast Wars season 2: Here, hold my beer.
Beast Wars season 2
Reboot season 3
Shadow Raiders
Basically everything Mainframe did.
Great television!
I actually hated Transmutate at the time because I was so upset at them for killing Dinobot. Re-watching it later though... I still hate it. I mean, what the fuck is that thing and why do I care?
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@@nortonman1178 Transmutate actually used to be a female Maximal that could transform. You should look her up on tfwiki.
I remember being a kid and thinking the flying surfboard was the coolest thing ever
Loved Dinobot, was the first 'tragic hero' and 'sacrifice' story I ever understood, everything before that made me feel 'oh man he's dead', but Dinobot's felt real and it hurt to see him die even though he won, he saved the humans and beat Megatron.
Also OMG Shadow Raiders I forgot and now its all rushing back to me,
Take your time, you do amazing work thank you, this feels professional T.V. stuff
You are Great!
wow, thank you! Yea I'm super looking forward to Shadow Raiders. Literally the only negative thing I've ever heard about it is that it ends on a massive cliffhanger. I don't know what the cliffhanger is, but at least my body is ready.
Be hilarious if the day Mainframe is shutting down, the apocalypse happens. So literally, Mainframe ends on a cliffhanger before it can officially end. It would be a fitting end(?) for them.
Season 2 was probably my absolute favorite. The depth of both story and characters was far beyond anything that 12-year-old me had ever seen on a kids' show. The acting and writing were flawless for what the show was trying to be.
The whole damn thing was just perfect.
Agreed 100%.
Only thing it was missing was more episodes
Yeah, would have been nice had they at least added four more eps (Dark Glass among them) if not 13 more so to fit a 65-ep criteria.
Still, what we got is still great and virtually flawless.
@@michaelandreipalon359 The TMII Dinobot clone didn't exist yet. Dark Glass has to be in season 3.
I always did enjoy Dinobot quoting Shakespeare also I loved the fact that Megatron quoted poetry is will a lot especially in season 3. In fact I daresay Beast Wars is maybe what got me interested in reading poetry in the first place.
Dinobot was my favorite, it hurt so bad when he died
As a guy who's permanently alienated many folks, I relate A LOT to Dinobot, especially when it comes to social discomfort and making bad decisions
I love beast Wars as a whole, but season 2 is definitely the strongest, tightest season. Transmutate was the only real standalone episode (but a very good one). All of the others were part of an overarching plot. The characters saw growth (through the whole series), the animation got a big bump in quality, and of course there were a lot of revelations.
Totally agreed
"Friend... good. Friend... dark. I am... *hurt.*
The fights between Dinobot and Rattrap had a lot of fun in the first season, which was still more casual
17:22. Speaking of Susan Blu she'd go on to reprise the role of Arcee in TFA, a series she also served on as voice director.
I'm stuck on there being a retard robot in the show.
And was supposed to be the voice director for Prime permanently, until her wife passed away on 2010 (thus ending her in S1E7 of the show), after which Jamie Simone (know for English dub voice directing for Naruto and its Shippuden sequel) took over afterwards.
That Old West theme ALWAYS gets me! This was my show back then and i still Watch old episodes like Bad Spark, and Code of a Hero to this day
Transmutate was an interesting episode, since according to early production notes for the series when it was first being put together, Rattrap was going to be severely deformed himself, with an exposed brain and other abnormal features that left him in a constant state of turmoil about his mortality. But due to the limitations of the CG at the time, and the fact that it would have been a massive departure from his toy, they ultimately abandoned the idea and used elements of it for the Transmutate episode.
15:50 actually there is 1 piece of dialogue in S3 in the finale where Megatron mentions that tarantulas is a decedent of Unicron
19:55: Ravage having a cat head was Mainframes attempt to cut corners with giving Ravage a new look by using Tigertron's beast mode head with Transmetal Cheetor's body. Also it was mentioned by Primal that after the Great War some deceptions were granted amnesty, more then likely the tripredicous council had a hand in that as they wanted to use Ravage for spy missions since he specialized in that field when serving Megatron. and the reason Ravage did his transformation was actually because Mainframe wanted the Original Transformers theme to play during the attack, but due to legal issues with Hasbro they had to use the generic rock track.
22:40 funny enough, Germany never got Beast Wars S3 so S2 WAS the finale for them
That's right! I totally forgot about that little piece of dialogue. Oh lord that sucks for those German kids :/
While Megatron does call Tarantulas "Unicron's Spawn", it was more meant as an insult than anything else. I can see why people took this as fact, since a lot of Beast Wars' lines were misconstrued that way in the early days. For example, the Predacon's ship was never called the "Darksyde", fans just misinterpreted as so after hearing Terrorsaur say it and they kept it in. Likewise, some people though Arcee was actually Rattrap's aunt, even though that was really thrown in as a gag more than anything else. Tarantulas being Unicron's spawn WAS worked into the comic continuity later though, so much like Darksyde it did have an effect on continuity.
Bull Session one thing you didn't mention is the fact that the Golden Disc is a reference to the one our (actual) satelites sent to space. With the implication that they intercepted it and was able to find Earth because its 'written' on the discs
Well of course
Bull Session unless they were rooting for the Predacons. I was born after this show ended so my data may be inaccurate but their seems to be as many fans of the predacons if not more so than the maximals
Transmutate and Code of Hero are easily some of this show's highlights. Trasmutate to this day still hits me in the feels.
Oh yea for sure. The greatest episodes are the ones that deal with relatable topics.
The retcon of them being on earth was actually genius. Connecting G1 and Beast Wars in that way was a brilliant idea. Megatron was looking for Earth the whole time, and was able to study the Golden Disc at length once they had crashed, discovering the message that G1 Megatron encoded onto it, which fuelled and altered his character's arc in the following seasons. So, even though they initially weren't planning on any of what happened after S1, they sure as hell pulled some magic out of their butts and created one of the all-time best animated shows, ever.
Also, Terrorsaur would have been OP if he became transmetal.
The biggest surprise for me as a kid was that the Beast Wars transformers were actually to scale with the animals they represented. When Prime was shown I was like "but why is he so humongous" and then it hit me... Optimus Primal was the size of a regular gorilla all along... maybe a bit bigger, but still....
I loved Dinobot so much. I think out of all the Transformers series and iterations, his character was easily one of the most well developed and well written. You actually learned something from his life and his death, which is saying something considering it was just a show to sell toys.
And then there was that transmutate episode... So sad...
No, I'm not crying... You're crying! .·´¯`(>▂
Hey, hey, hey, who's been chopping onions in here??
And the toys were awesome.
Ah, Silverbolt my childhood crush. His and Blackararchnia's relationship still holds a special place in my heart
If he was your crush why were you rooting for him to be with Blackarachnia
Yooo The ending for Transmutate had me bawling as a child wtf!!!
That one is a tear jerker for sure. Code of Hero too
I remember having Rhinox and Tigerhawk as a child. I had the best childhood.
"Find any new positions?" XD
2:16 Here's my take on Megatron's motives: yes his original mission was to change the course of "history", but at some point he realized that the vast presence of energon might render that mission unnecessary if he could make it back, then Cybertron would be at his mercy rather than serve someone else. After the aliens destroyed most of the energon, he figured he should resume his original plan.
It was amusing to me that i didnt even notice terasaur and scorpinok gone until half way through second season as a kid. And i think inferno took a back seat for a while too.
Ha! Yea, same here. I remember it just hitting me that I hadn't seen them in weeks.
I really love this part of the Beast Wars. Especially DinoBot and Megatron
Megatron's first season plan (gathering Energon, then returning to the present) is explained in side materials as his initial hesitance to go through with assassinating the dormant Opitmus Prime, because altering the fabric of time can easily go horribly wrong.
Also, *NEW FUNKY MODE!* at 5:10.
Hmm interesting. Is that a comic or something? I'd be interested in reading it.
I believe it was something the writers said in an interview. I don't remember exactly, so I'll have to look into it in further detail.
Beast Wars season 2 was epic
Dinobot was my favorite character from the show. Initially because he was my favorite dinosaur, a deinonychus. Really shallow reason to like him in spite of his obvious anti-hero status at the beginning of the show. But he has the best character arc of the series.
1:42 that prime figure cost me $30 back in the day. Those beast wars figures were the best looking toys that also had articulation back in the day. Man I miss that show
The ball joint was a huge innovation for Transformers toys at the time. It allowed them to have more articulation than even many regular action figures in addition to the ability to transform.
"To the shade of his master."
Oh, that's good writing. Well done.
Thank you!
I Think this is by far the best season of Beast Wars and Transformers.
Man brings back good memories. I loved this show. That Dinobot episode is poignant even today. I actually like Primal and this Megatron more the OG ones.
Oh yea, this is easily may fav version of Optimus / Megatron
Awesome! Was wondering when this video would drop.
Word on the street was that having Ravage transform into a cassette tape was supposed to start playing the classic Transformers theme song, but Mainframe wasn't able to secure the rights. But it had already been animated (with the classic transforming sound, no less), so they kept it.
Ahh darn it, that's right... I forgot to put that in the video hahaha
4:48 I used to have that Transmetal form of Waspinator when I was a kid also Tripredecus and Transmetal 1 Megatron
If I recall Scorponok & Terrorsaur survive encased in lava in the comics
Also Tarantulas has the Vox's powers
I kind of wish they did more with Optimus Primal inserting his spark into a new body. Sure, that protoform didn't have a spark, but it would have been interesting seeing him dealing with being a new person. You could've had Primal start to develop a second personality, or trying to be way too protective of his new body. Instead, they just shove his Spark into a new body and are like "Okay, have some new powers, I guess". I mean, it's cool that he got back, I just wish they played around with the concept some more.
hahahaha! I started writing a whole bit where I was gonna get into Primal's ressurection that but then opted instead to go for the cuttaway joke. Ditillio and Forward actually wanted Primal to stay dead initially. They only brought him back because Hasbro told them they had to because they had made an Transmetal Optimus Primal toy. That's likely why it seems somewhat rushed over in the show.
I felt as though SilverBolt also felt a sort of kinship with transmutate, due to him being the only fuzor on the team. Especially when he said "Are we Predacons now?! Do we destroy whatever does not fit our definition of perfection?!"
Awesome review btw!
That's an interesting parallel I hadn't considered. Good catch!
Dont forget what he said to primal when primal and cheetor where gonna take care of ravage " no, let him be. For the moment we are brothers" silverbolt understood that ravage wanted to protect transmutate as much as him.
I love Code of Hero, but Transmutate is by far my favorite episode in the series. It emotionally wrecked me, and I love media that fucks my emotions in the ass
Did anyone else notice the time portal at 19:23 is a reference to the Bajoran wormhole from Star Trek DS9?
He lived a warrior, And died a hero!
Let his spark join with the greatest of Cybertron's heroes.
Garry Chalk nailed the somber delivery there.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yep, Not bad for a Half Canadian Half British actor.
"Not bad" is an understatement.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Does it really matter? Just enjoy the moment.
the holy trinity of mainframe entertanmint, REBOOT, BEAST WARS, WAR PLANETS.
Destroying the autobots was a last resort after many failed attempts in destroying the maximal's. A way of cheating and causing a domino effect. He was hesitant in changing the future originally but I think he was tired of failure after failure which made him mad and more thirsty with power especially after becoming a Transmetal. I believe holding the G2 Megatrons spark in his torso affected him further, taking on some of his predecessors personality and corrupting his mind. He became a megalomaniac. After optimus tried communicating with Megs spark in beast machines he felt he wasn't a stable consciousness, de-polarized spark or not.
Never forget how Dinobot died for the human race and accelarated our development in ancient times.
Ravange was small for a Decepticon but perfect size for a Predatcon andthey did mention he was rebuilt. Also the cassette thing is still a nod to G1 since the Original Megatron turned into a gun.
Well actually ravage was one of the cassette mini bots that spawned out of soundwave.....so he was always small....also it's spelled Ravage
There needs to be some guy that has an art show to make a tribute to some of theses chatacters....
RIP Dinobot..."the greatest of Cybertron."
Thanks for letting me relive these great memories I have with this show. Good research as well.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed :)
season 2 was my favorite of the three, it gave us a bit more story driven episodes and some new characters, Sliverbolt being my favorite of the new bots and even gave a shot out to the fans of G1. i loved the three part final but my two favorites would have to be Code Of Hero and Transmutate. Transmutate was in interesting soul, so innocent and her death hit some heart strings along with Rampage's reaction. but Code Of Hero will forever be my all time favorite Transformers episode, Dinobot to this day remains my favorite Transformer. he was an honorable warrior who started off on the Preds side and only joined the Maxs just to beat Megatron. but over time he grew to be a true hero. his death hit me the hardest, even more than 86 Optimus. its sad, but i still love it.
this was a great video, cant wait till you get to season 3, keep up the great work
Dinobot is teriffic and Code of Hero is an absolutely fantastic episode of television; Transmutate as well. And you're right; Prime's death in the 86 movie was pretty dang sad but the sheer weight of Code of Hero's ending... Hey, who's cutting onions in here?
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The peak of the series.
I think Dinobot is the character whose story taught me, as a child, that the people on the other side (be it a battlefield or otherwise) is a person too.
He is also a shining example of a villain type who switches sides and *doesn't* somehow magically heal all his flaws and become a sparkly model citizen of the good guys culture. Contrast this with Blackarachnia who lost her cool edginess when she turned Maximal enough that she instantly was less likeable because all the "good" she had to try so hard to be (similar to DB) was just "given" to her by new programming. I was so disappointed in that lol. She's still cool but it's like she instantly skipped 3 more seasons worth of character development with one surgery. Dinobot went out still a Predacon, and still a hero.
To this day, I view Deceptions with more depth than I think Hasbro let's their writers portray because of him.
Why Rinox didn't get a Transmetals upgrade is sad. My favorite character second to Prime... And then what they did to him in Beast Machines was a travesty!
I absolutely fell in love with Rampage, and Depth Charge in the next season. I wouldn't have, except they gave us that Transmutate episode, which hinted at a depth of emotional intelligence I didn't expect of his character. He "feels" others, implying a kind of super empathy ability on top of the curse of being immortal, and made me wonder if he enjoys killing because
a) he has never been treated as and therefore thought of himself as anything but a monster and
b) he feels the world is a painful nightmare and craves death, so when he kills he feels what it's like to die. This is why he enjoys DC so much, thinks of him as a friend, and lets go of the crystal shard in the end.
I could have watched a whole show, or another season, with Rampage and Depth Charge learning and growing as people and their dynamic changing in response to the Beast Wars and other characters. Example. It would have been too dark for the show to ruminate on much, but is Rampage a cold killer with no morals who knows what he's doing and does it anyway, or is he a severely abused victim of horrific scientists whose only way he has ever learned to deal with the world is harming others in a chase of death? He sensed Transmutate pain and identified with them so much he was shockingly vulnerable, and openly showed his pain in mourning their passing. Later in the show, he is trying to squish Blackarachnia and she says
You'll regret this, crab legs!
His response, "I regret everything, my sweet. Struggle as much as you like, I enjoy it!" He could have just said the second part. What she first part mean!? And then he lets go. I remember as a kid I didn't have the maturity to wonder stand understand why such a strong, scary villain *let go* of the crystal to die. It stuck with me for a long time.
So incredibly interesting that a show as goofy and fun as Beast Wars has this dark, morbid, highly intelligent, scarily emotionally sensitive, fascinatingly tortured character turned slave to the main villain buried within it's many plot threads.
I agree, I feel Transmutate was one of the best episodes as well. Though it has a rather... Interesting history. So, when the internet was young the episode was the center of a rather intense April Fool's joke. What happened was that some unnamed employees at Mainframe got their hands on the script for the Transmutate episode and altered it to include a scene of Rattrap and Cheetor taking turns mounting Transmutate. YES, SERIOUSLY.
The script was meant as a joke and never meant to see the light of day, but was found by the extremely old Usenet group "Alt.Toys.Transformers". The script ended up leaked before the actual episode aired in America, resulting in people thinking it was real. What adds to it is that the script was almost 90% the same as the actual episode, just with the mounting scene added in. So people who saw the leak script and started watching the episode would be lead to believe that the mounting scene was in there... Only to reach the scene in question and find out it doesn't exist.
Keep in mind that this was in a time when you couldn't easily confirm on the internet if something was real or not, unless you witnessed it for yourself. This is why video-game urban legends and myths were prevalent in the late 90s and early 2000s. So people were actually fooled into believing this was the case, especially because it came from a popular source. It's a good thing nowadays that we don't fall for such absurd myths and urban legends when it comes to cartoons... *Cough* Creepypastas *Cough cough*
Yea, I read about the leaked April Fool's script. I tried to get my hands on it, but I wasn't able to find it, so I didn't include it in the video. Funny stuff though. You wouldn't happen to have a copy would you? I was a bit too young for Alt.Toys.Transformers in its heyday but I've heard the legends lol
I was a bit too young myself, I only heard of it through the wiki. Sadly, I do not have a copy, though I recall reading it somewhere before... Not sure where.
Edit: Nevermind, I found a version on the TF Wiki. WARNING: VERY NSFW
groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/alt.toys.transformers/avg4cvggM9U/dReZHoCsN9QJ
Oh man, that's such an awkward read hahaha
Don't say I didn't warn ya. :D
What. The. Slag.
22:36 It was in France.
19:19. Ravage's very show accurate Takara fig is something I've long sought after. Instead I own the Tripredacus Agent toy, which served as the basis for his appearance in both Primeval Dawn & The Gathering/Ascending. It's a sublime reuse of the TM2 Cheetor mold but I'd still prefer owning the Takara fig since I love his design from the show, even if it was ultimately just a resourceful recycling of Cheetor & Tigatron CG parts.
I would like to see a good high quality Beast Wars video game for modern systems. Preferably where you're able to scale the landscape in beast mode to explore and counters with enemies be similar to a one on one duel along with having a nemesis system.
That would be awesome!
Beast Wars and Futurama, the mashup I never knew I wanted. Great recap/reviews. Looking forward to Season 3 and your Reboot series.
Press F for Dinobot
I think if only they incorporated the fact the Transmetal forms were supposed to kind of swap their concepts with a more organic while still robotic humanoid form and metal beast mode, the concept of that might have made Megatron's goal in Beast Machines make more sense of it was expanded on, how much the Transmetal stuff altered them. On its own in the show it doesn't without that detail.
A. The fact that Quickstrike gels so well with the Predacons actually speaks well about how Maximals program their stasis pods.
When a stasis pod is activated with a Predacon programming-chip the protoform personality is actively steered towards a Predacon mindset, but with a Maximal programming-chip the protoform's personality is left intact.
B. It's not stated that Tarantulas doesn't descend from Autobots or Decepticons, it's stated that he doesn't descend from Ark-bound Autobots or Decepticons. (He could still be a descendant of Shockwave for example, but his personality would make him Shockwave's unfavored if it were the case)
Awesome review again! I wanna add two bits of info. The moment where Ravage turns into a cassette tape, the background music was supposed to be the original Transformers Theme, but because they couldn't get the rights to use it in time, they had to use the Beast Wars music instead. Also, there's a little mistake where Rattrap isn't a transmetal during Dinobot's Funeral. When you see it, you can't unsee it.
I never noticed Rattrap's model swap until making this video XD idk how that even happens.
Bull Session because he's standing beside Rhinox, I think it was just a still captured from season one that they just pasted into the scene, hoping nobody would notice. It even looks like they're at the base's computer console but outside.
Maybe Rattrap is secretly a Digimon and can de-digivolve to his non-Transmetal form on a whim.
The end of this season was the most terrifying yet exciting moment of my childhood. I was so worrisome seen all of my heroes been wiped out after my most sacred child-memory had been shot in the face. However, it was so rewarding and satisfying seeing Megatron's Ultimate Triumph, realizing that he had managed to potentially win and change the entire history, even of G1.
The kiss with the dog mouth killed me, I laughed so hard. As a child, I always felt awkward watching the relationship between Silverbolt and Blackarachnia, It was kind of unnecessary to me. Surprisingly enough, now I even relate to it.
Thanks once again for the awesome review. I'm looking forward to hear your thoughts on "Optimal Situation" and "Nemesis".
Right? It especially blows your mind when you consider that the show COULD HAVE ENDED ON THAT NOTE. Like, *that* could have been the final canon ending of G1 in some alternate timeline where the show wasn't renewed.
Damn! Trip down Nostalgia lane on this video. Really enjoyed it! Was interesting seeing the full overview of the second season. Dinobot's character arc... man, that hit me when I was young...
For sure. One of the best in a kids show that I've ever seen
Great video, although I'm surprisedy you didn't mention the fact that it's implied that Dinobot's use of the stick & rock together to make a tool inspired the usage of tools by the earliest primitive humans, allowing our species to evolve the way we did in the first place.
I shed manly tears of grief when dinobot died, he lived a warrior and died a hero. May he dwell in the halls of valhalla where the brave live forever.
Best line exchange in that episode imo
Quickstrike (mockingly): "What's a warrior without a weapon, huh?"
Dinobot: "...*snarls*... a warrior still!"
Couldn't find anywhere to put it in the video organically.
I forgot about rampage. I think i had almost every figure. And they werent cheap
I'd figured out the plot hole problem with the predacons salvage/steal the remains of there computer seintinal not only did he find dinobots back up but also the plans rinox use to bring back optimus primal and that was the oversized device he had on the blank
I feel bad for quick strike he never knew he was a maximal
I always assumed that when Megatron and the others crashed, he didnt know he was on earth, so the plan of just getting as much energon as possible was just a byproduct of just never really having enough and once they had won there they would keep looking for earth.
It sounds stupid, but that Dinobot episode defiantly effected my personal growth as a kid. Powerful stuff for someone in their formative years.
Silverbolt! Yes! You got his personality down so right! Part Lancelot, Part Superman - my thought exactly! Code of Hero, the best moments of the show right up there with Spock's funeral in Star Trek II. Stand at attention friends, a great one passes.
Star Trek II is an amazing film. I once wrote a 12 page rant on how bad Star Trek Into Darkness was in comparison... maybe I'll dust it off and make a video someday...
A video series about more Star Trek stuff would be welcome for someone catching up on the franchise.
And yes, that includes ST IV, Nemesis, and Enterprise.
Another fantastic retrospective, Bull!
Dinobot's death still makes me tear up. Everything is so well written and acted, you can't help but form attachments to these characters.
While the reduced episode count did have them tighten the story, I do wish Seasons 2 & 3 had at the very least 16 episodes each. As you touched upon, more episodes on Rampage beyond a sadistic killer, would've been great. Not to mention certain other characters introduced in the next season.
Thank you! I agree, I think a few more episodes would have been nice to have on season 2; 16 does seem to be the sweet spot as far as MFE shows go. And yes, we're definitely going to have to go over the way season 3's new characters were handled.
Bull Sessions, Maximise!!!!!
Sharing to all my friends! This is such a great review and covered so many things I forgot wow! I need to find the dvds for all the Mainframe works. I'm excited to see more about "Shadow Raiders"
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos :D
Great video! Looking forward to season 3.
Thanks! I am too :p
I know I'm two years late, but I'll press F for my favorite Transformer of all time, Dinobot.
"He lived a warrior and died a hero."
The Beast Wars toys were absolutely S Tier
At first i had actually thought Sliverbolt and Quickstrike were the reborn forms of Terrasaur and Scorpinok
Inferno was fucking hilarious. His introduction episode is amazing too.......sadly he went from badass to comic relief. He should have been comic relief (due to dialogue) and still been a badass. Loved his transformation as well. At the time it was very impressive.
Code of hero is now one of my favorite episodes in a cartoon period its that good and when the transfomers hall of fame started I was glad dinobot got in there they kinda put him as a joke nomination but oh boy they underestimated his popularity. Im glad other beast wars characters have joined to like waspinator both beast wars mega tron amd optimus primal and most recently of last year Blackarachnia
Beast Wars is by far the best iteration of The Transformers and season 2 has some of the best writing in animation imo
Oh yea, 100%
Is it just me or have anyone notice on Beast Wars season 2 all the Statis Pods have landed/ crash on earth since the last episode from season 1 and none of the Maximal and Predacons try to find where they all are since Tigertron and Airazor were kidnapped from the Alien since then?🤔.
In fact at the start of Beast Wars Season 2, I also remember that both Terrorsaur and Scorponok perish after they have lost control of their hover platforms and collide into each other as both fall into the lava pitt and never seen, heard or mention again. Also at the end of the episode third stasis pod that are shown lying in a barren area and their DNA scanners malfunctioning, but there one bit that doesn't make sense or explain as one of the protoform robot had it arm stick out of the pod and after that in the next episode reveal that it's in piece even though we never got to see what the rest of the body looks like anyway..
The official version is that most of them were destroyed during re-entry (Rampage, Transmutate and Dinobot II being the exceptions). Fortunately, both 3H comics and IDW have ignored that to do their own take on what happened to these protoforms.
This was really a great review. See, now I have to sit down and watch Beast Wars again, as I never really got into it as a kid.
Do it! I'd be curious to hear the perspective of someone going in relatively fresh
Bull Session this
still remember the music in ep code of hero, tear dropping
17:23 Guess Rattrap made that point clear.
Looking forward to you covering Shadow Raiders (after covering the next part of Guardian Chode, that is) Shadow Raiders always stood out to me as Mainframe's hidden gem. Sure, almost all of their early work was amazing. Nothing really compared to Shadow Raiders though. It was the darkest of all their shows, had a ton of fantastic characters, a great theme song that's also dark and ominous, and has some great action. And despite ending on a cliffhanger, they at least make it a semi-happy, albeit with a dark twist near the end.
Best of all, despite being based on a toyline, it takes its own direction. Heck, some of the characters on the show barely resemble their toys! There are also several who don't even have toys at all! The most sucky thing of all is that its there most obscure show! It's like when a game developer team puts out a high quality game, and only like 100,000 people buy it and then forget about it in two weeks. I'm glad you're going to be bringing Shadow Raiders the attention it deserves :)
This is definitely the vibe that everyone else is giving me on the show also so I thought hey why not, there's obviously an audience for it!
Guardian Chode....lol
I believe it is mentioned that Tarantulas and the TriPredicus council are children of Unicron hence why Tarantulas attempted to destroy the ark wiping out both opposition
Beast Wars is the Deep Space 9 of Transformers.
The episodes Code of hero and transmutate made me cry as a kid. Those episodes stayed with me and I still remember them fresh my mind today. They were such great television and writing. It's probably because I'm a girl and I finally got some representation(on the good side) in the TV show that I loved to watch but I loved Airazor as a kid and was so sad when she just disappeared for many episodes with tigertron. I thought she was going to come back with him and they had a whole new set of maximals that they had found on their Journeys. But that's not what we got, instead I got so disheartened when she disappeared altogether. Sure technically her spark was still Within the new Transformers body that hers and tigertrons were made out of but we never heard her again and that always left a bad taste in my mouth. Always thought it would have been more fun if they had shared control over the body.
I'll definitely be talking all about the mishandling of Tigatron and Airazor (especially Airazor) as well as all the different ways Tigerhawk doesn't work as a character in the forthcoming season 3 video.
Wow talk to text fail. Sorry about my terrible grammar, I'm surprised you were able to understand what I was talking about.
I'm super excited to watch the next video. I've only just found your channel and I think I'm going to subscribe. :D
Thank you :) I'm glad you're enjoying my content